Considering its not far behind and it costs that little to run I'd opt for the 340d , you can take the family on holiday without using multiple tanks of fuel and with 700nm it still has a good shove on the bum dyno , the reason why I purchased a 435d gran coupe over a 440i
I think they've always managed to make a bog BMW into something very attractive. Even from the 80's their wheels and body kits and internal styling just made a BMW so appealing; but when they started stripping and rebuilding the car from scratch and fine-tuning them, what came out was an engineering masterpiece everytime. Unfortunately they failed to identify a lot of BMW's design faults. From 2023/24 Alpina will be the only place people will be able to buy a Diesel BiTurbo BMW. The amazing thing is, Alpina announced last year it is bring back partd production for all of its classic models ranging back to the 80's. So as you can imagine upon hearing that news, the value of classic Alpinas went up a bit lol.
BMW really does have some amazing diesel engines for sure! I have a 2018 335D which whilst doesn't keep up with 335i's and 340i's, is still rapid enough and can get me to London and back (from Bournemouth) twice before I need to refill the tank. My old 120i would only handle 1 round trip with careful driving before the fuel light came on 😅
That Alpina is the pinnacle of 3 series BMWs for me. Best looking, best sounding, best handling (on the road), comfiest and a real rarity. Ultimate Q car vibes.
Personally, I prefer the pre-LCI look of the M340d over all the others. KITT Tuning is offering a M8 style bumper for the pre-LCI G20 and it looks sick.
Damn I didn't even know they made an M8 bumper for G20. Personally I don't like the notch in the headlight of the PRE LCI so I prefer LCI but I dont like how they removed the side vents on the LCI which made it look a lot less aggressive. Hopefully someone out there makes a nice bumper for the LCI and brings back the vents
Having owned two Alpina products, the ride is always incredibly civilised, and quality inside especially the leather excellent, I would go Alpina over M3 every time if your doing over 15000 miles per year..
Alpina B3 is just beautiful. I feel the M3 Touring is a great car, but its one of those cars that look better when you add and tune things. Especially when you put the aftermarket front bumper. That makes it look night and day better.
I've never commented but this was one of the best drag races ever. You did so much bs and had so much fun. I love all of you search for the bloody MPG figures and when you started swapping cars to trash on the others seating positions i complete lost it. Such a great fun drag race i hope we get more of this :D
The B57 engine in the M340d has a dual turbo setup with two different sized vnt turbos. It’s a patent by Borg Warner and called R2S (registered two stage) system.
I have a 2023 M340D and I think my engine is a TwinPower not twin turbo. The difference I believe is twin power is a single turbo but with two intakes. According to BMW's website, the TwinPower Turbo is one single turbo that comes with two exhaust down tubes.
Want to see that definitely but there’s also a cheap tune for s58 So would like to see tuned 340s against regular s58 and then a race all of them tuned
As a pre-LCI M340d Touring owner, this just cements why I love it so much as it literally can do everything. To enjoy this negligible difference in performance (most noticeable here but hardly anything in day to day driving) - but with that also can't get worse than 35mpg when driving it like it's stolen, and best I've had is 740 miles out of tank and 72mpg over a 100 mile journey. The BMW B57 is an engineering masterclass.
I agree. It's all well and good watching the gap grow on a runway, realistically on UK roads a 340d will reach and exceed the speed limit out of any corner/roundabout/sliproad in a matter of seconds. I enjoy accelerating hard in those situations but do like to keep it "at or near" the speed limit so I don't lose my license. To have that performance whilst still getting 45mpg instead of 20 odd is the best of all worlds
Just back from a 2000 mile trip to Europe in mine and averaged 46mpg including 1000 miles in Germany where my average speed was 115mph and 38.7mpg. Backed out of it at 163mph indicated (traffic) No doubt the 40i is a faster car but for 95% of my driving I’ll take the 40d
This is testimony to how good the B58 engine is. Yes, it may not beat the full M car, but it will probably smoke any other car with a similar power output such as the C43 and S4
I mean the new C43 is a 2.0L inline 4 with some electric nonsense going on. Just a turd of a car. It's still somewhat quick but it ain't touching an M340i
This….right here…. I don’t have a car these levels but I have 2014 328i touring, I absolutely love it. As a family man as well it’s SO much cooler than a minivan. Thank you for this 🎉😂
Mat is the kind of guy who keeps changing the rules on the basketball court when he loses, until he secures a win he takes his ball and goes home. And brags he won. 😆
@@weed46 Yeah so you can do things like afford a mortgage have other hobbies take your family out, not worry about driving across country costing far more…..
@@maxpowers1187 If the engine choice of your luxury car changes the possibility of paying mortgage or not, then you have your priorities wrong... Maybe you should stay with a Renault Megane for the time being. You need to start using modern gasoline engines my friend... They are A LOT more economical. The 340i has a WLTP of 7.5l per 100km. that's what a 335d did not long ago. The fuel savings aren't going to save you mortgage. Diesels for a start are more expensive, then the maintenance is also more expensive. Which means that if you don't drive a lot, it can actually be more costly than petrol. Not even mentioning resale value.
A BMW isn’t a luxury car for a start… The 340d will get 50mpg easily whilst the 340i is in the mid 30’s so that’s your second claim in the bin Maintenance is also now a complete irrelevant point petrols are just as expensive and more so to service, set of spark plugs for a 340i costing £300 just for plugs…… my father inlaw paid £700 for a full service on his 340i I service mine myself but I was quoted £200 for a fuel service and the 340d and 340i are the exact same price retail so that’s your last point out of the window……. And your obviously unable to detect artistic licence with the point implying that with the 40d will save you money you can spend else where…. its also called Petrol not gasoline the rest of the world doesn’t acknowledge yank speak …. The 340d is the best real world car of the test. In my family we have 340i’s x3 30’ds 340d’s so I have enough knowledge to pass opinion also the resale value of the D’s in GB is is only less because far more people buy 3.0 Diesel’s than petrols making them relatively rare regardless of what the media will have you believe…
Great stuff Matt, have wanted to see this lineup with the Alpina. On a long road trip the M340d ( or a D3 S) would need half the amount of fill ups as the M3 or B3. Also the B3 would be better on the autobahn than the M3.
They all performed very well and you've gotta love all of the aftermarket performance options that all of these touring wagons have available to jam more air into the engine for bigger bangs.
Summary: The results were exactly as expected and were also very impressive all round. For driving on UK roads any one of these is an almost perfect all-rounder.
I’ve been an audi driver for 8 years, since last month I switched to a bmw 4 series gran coupe, and I gotta say bmw is much more fun and feels much more steady on the road.
As an owner of an s58 and b58, you’re right. Twin turbos kill the sound as does the unequal length exhaust. But the s58 is a flash tune and e50 away from 800 horsepower. A b58 will need way more mods including an aftermarket turbo.
I am driving the m340d as my daily for arround a year now. This car is just perfect! If you want to, you can go at 5,5 L / 100km- or full throttle fun machine. The spread is incredible. 👍
I'd take the M340i any day, the comfiest, smoothest, and quietest in the cabin (along with the M340D) more than quick enough, and with the B58 there's enough headroom to run 500WHP from a good Stage 1
@@sexyhunk84 Yep, also I forgot to add the power band of the B58 is far superior to the S58, with peak torque coming in at about 1600rpm up to 5000rpm, whereas the S58 has to be around 2800rpm for max power to kick in, meaning in the real world when you're cruising in 5th/6th gear and you go to 75% throttle for an overtake, it's instant power, whereas the S58 in the same situation would have to kick down to 3rd/4th gear, causing a delay, and using more fuel.
@@Shaggy12321 That's impressive. I feel that when I cruise my X3 M 40i. It has the same B58 engine as you get in 340i. I love driving my BMW. Simply anyday better than their counterpart in Merc and Audi.
That’s a really great gathering. We need more Alpinas on Carwow, as long as they still exist. BMW owns now Alpina and it’s not clear which direction they go. More luxury or more hybrid/electric power or both. No more B7 and a B5 is unclear. 11.3s for the M3 Touring is really fast. A few years back the F90 M5 got in the best case 11.1s, when the terrible launch control finally worked (and sometimes 12s when not). A rumored CS version could be a lot of fun.
3:10 Good question! Yes, the M340d has two turbos (just like 318d, 320d and 330d as well). One small turbo for low and mid revs (for torque and responsiveness), one bigger turbo for mid and high revs (for power). "TwinPower Turbo" like seen on the engine cover means nothing. It's either a twin scroll turbo (petrol), a real Twin Turbo (diesel or petrol) or even one single-scroll VTG turbo (diesel).
@@KingdomPLThat's not true. B47TU (318d / 320d) and B57TU (330d / M340d) got a twin-turbo. 335d and 340d have always been twin-turbo Diesel. Alpina D3 S is a twin-turbo, too.
If you don't know what you are talking about please do your research. In m340d you will find B57d3002 which is single turbo. Its a twin scroll SINGLE turbo engine.
@@KingdomPL I think you should do some research. There are no twin scroll turbo diesel - twin scroll single turbo is a technology only for the petrol engine (e.g. 320i, 330i, M340i). The M340d has two VTG turbo charger. Look it up! PS: Are you trolling?
Owned a f10 lci 535d for 3 years. That was a damn nice ride for everyday life. So much torque and averaging below 8l/100km On motorways sometimes 5,8l/100 too
yeah man i have f11 2011, 525d tuned.300hp 612nm ..i bought it tuned with 200000 km..now it is almost 330000 km .and still going strong ...It use below 8l/100km also ..oke i spent some money to over the year's to keep it healthy ..ore smt .how you say in english ?
Great drag race as always 👍! But: Driving my 2016 F10 with favorite buttons, iDrive, no touch, NavProf - still makes me feel not to miss anything from infotainment point of view - compared to the curved display touch era nowadays 😁
Taking into account the fact that the alpina has more torque than the M3, it would have been interesting to see a race from 40mph in 6th gear or something like that. Wonder if the Alpina would have won that. Would you do such races in the future Mat😅? in situations like this
The Alpina is actually the best looking for me. Props to the M3, what it lacks in looks, it makes up for performing like a Japanese😅.... i mean perfectly aftermarket built track car. I would still daily that diesel.
M340d are a twin turbo indeed. It is a duble twin scroll turbo config. 330d 286hp are similar, twin turbo as well, but a twin scroll and a single scroll turbo config.
I'm sure the 340d has a small turbo for low down and a large for higher up the rev range like the 35d before it. That twinpower label under the bonnet doesn't help and is on me 435d when it should have twin turbo as it has 2.
@lukeskywalker1666 has nothing to do with what I am talking about. It's decent on fuel for a 3.0l and in the real world people with the extra power can't even drive anyway. Its a crusing about car and all these at over 1800kg are boats anyway so hardly nimble b road blasters. Plus the petrol ones on here sound shit compared to an om606 merc diesel. And if we are gonna talk about fun. I have a 750kg lightweight 70s rwd opel which let's be honest will be more fun than any of these for a b road blast and can stay in my lane and nip past wide cars without slowing due to the width of some roads in the uk.
Coin toss between the two 40s. I’m a B58 fanboy, but in a family wagon like that I see the appeal of the oil burner. If I came into a bunch of money I would probably go Alpina
Correct. Or at least the one sitting in my garage does. If theirs doesn’t, they probably need to go talk to their BMW press rep, who’s sold one of them for some money for nose candy, and a lap dance or three.
@@hexagonosaurus5848(without mentioning the car and the engine code)@@hexagonosaurus5848 Difference between them is 1l on highway and 3~ in the city. Tested. C63 4.0 v8 also can get 7.3l on 100km, so what?
The 340d looks the cleanest and is also the least expensive, practical and, above all, the most economical too!
And it should have been upgraded to Stage 1 for better perfomance , at least for M340i!
Yeah and it's the slowest.
@@shiTthebed86 i never said that. That's pretty obvious that of all the 4 cars, the 340d was gonna come last all the time.
And The engine noise for a diesel is quite nice.
Considering its not far behind and it costs that little to run I'd opt for the 340d , you can take the family on holiday without using multiple tanks of fuel and with 700nm it still has a good shove on the bum dyno , the reason why I purchased a 435d gran coupe over a 440i
When I see the M3 Touring I say thats a cool car, when I see the Alpine B3 I think thats a beautiful BMW.
The wheels on Alpina's are beautiful!
Probably one of my favourite wheels for a BMW
Iconic wheels
Most beautiful thing about Alpina is, that it's way more, than a few parts and optic changes
I think they've always managed to make a bog BMW into something very attractive. Even from the 80's their wheels and body kits and internal styling just made a BMW so appealing; but when they started stripping and rebuilding the car from scratch and fine-tuning them, what came out was an engineering masterpiece everytime. Unfortunately they failed to identify a lot of BMW's design faults. From 2023/24 Alpina will be the only place people will be able to buy a Diesel BiTurbo BMW. The amazing thing is, Alpina announced last year it is bring back partd production for all of its classic models ranging back to the 80's. So as you can imagine upon hearing that news, the value of classic Alpinas went up a bit lol.
@@upgradeNEVERthe wheels on Alpina B3 kinda reminded me a lot to 2009 SLR McLaren Stirling Moss.
13.1 is a decent time honestly. Props to the diesel. If you can get good MPG'S and still run a 13, that's not a bad day.
BMW really does have some amazing diesel engines for sure! I have a 2018 335D which whilst doesn't keep up with 335i's and 340i's, is still rapid enough and can get me to London and back (from Bournemouth) twice before I need to refill the tank. My old 120i would only handle 1 round trip with careful driving before the fuel light came on 😅
Stage one and that 340d might smoke the other twos
Kinda impressive I do 13.3 in my 2008 135i fully stock (convertible)
I love mine... 50MPG and lovely 700Nm...
Think you can do the same times but with the dog in the boot in the 340d 😂@@lavlogs5782
That Alpina is the pinnacle of 3 series BMWs for me. Best looking, best sounding, best handling (on the road), comfiest and a real rarity. Ultimate Q car vibes.
I agree
It's good but the 340d is the best looking. Sleek and cool.
I’ve never thought Alpina wheels look good, but to each their own
@hofahome they're sporty, but they have more elegance compared to the rest.
If someone did a manual swap from the M3 in the Alpina, I’d agree.
I have been waiting for a decade for this comparison. Back then it was the BMW M5, BMW m550d, Alpina B5 and Alpina D5. Thanks
The M340i is the most impressive out of the 4. Just a little over a second slower than the M3. Bang for the buck, I’d say!
Just over a second slower to 60.. when one takes 3.5s that’s a fair amount. Who races from 0-60?
@@Ryyyzzorm3 is night and day quicker!
@@RyyyzzorM340i in terms of 0 to 60 time is also surprisingly slower than even the 1982 Corvette C3 Stingray Coupe.
@@purwantiallan5089 feel sorry for people that pay so much for these cars. Germans finessing people
@@Lemingtona-x5gjust cos u can’t afford one u don’t need to feel sorry for people who can
Surprisingly The diesel 3 is the best looking non m3 out there because it’s got the pre facelift font end
Its the new DRLs that i dont like.
The lights have that weird indentation though
M3 is the worst looking one out of the four by far
Dont mind the exterior but I can't get used to cars having tablets instead of dashboards. For me the prelift interior just looks better.
@@WujekJeffAgree
Personally, I prefer the pre-LCI look of the M340d over all the others. KITT Tuning is offering a M8 style bumper for the pre-LCI G20 and it looks sick.
I prefer everything on the pre-LCI, no shitty tablets slapped to the dashboard = clean dashboard, idrive, head lights...
alpina looks better, has actual sound and power.
The pre-LCI 340i looks so much better than the LCI. I don't like the headlights or front and rear bumpers on the LCI.
Damn I didn't even know they made an M8 bumper for G20. Personally I don't like the notch in the headlight of the PRE LCI so I prefer LCI but I dont like how they removed the side vents on the LCI which made it look a lot less aggressive. Hopefully someone out there makes a nice bumper for the LCI and brings back the vents
@@99Lezard99i also miss the BMW ALPINA LMGT3 Car... Its as amazing in terms of looks like the Alpina B3.
The alpina and 340D specs are just 🔥🔥🔥
Having owned two Alpina products, the ride is always incredibly civilised, and quality inside especially the leather excellent, I would go Alpina over M3 every time if your doing over 15000 miles per year..
Alpina B3 is just beautiful. I feel the M3 Touring is a great car, but its one of those cars that look better when you add and tune things. Especially when you put the aftermarket front bumper. That makes it look night and day better.
M3 Touring just need one more thing: Stage 3 Weight Reduction and install the Carbon Bonnet.
M3 looks 100x times proper m car
Ya the B3 to me looks so much better than the ugly M3 face
Yeah I find the front and even the back on most of these hideous
I've never commented but this was one of the best drag races ever. You did so much bs and had so much fun. I love all of you search for the bloody MPG figures and when you started swapping cars to trash on the others seating positions i complete lost it.
Such a great fun drag race i hope we get more of this :D
Yes it was a fun episode. I hope the Fox is doing well :)🦊
Yeah it was fun
yeah hope to see this fun episode more, especially with 4 guys
@@richardlabejavery fun episode surprisingly too.
boring drag as usual
The B57 engine in the M340d has a dual turbo setup with two different sized vnt turbos. It’s a patent by Borg Warner and called R2S (registered two stage) system.
Thank you 🙏 finally someone knows about BMW
Like in the bmw 123d ?
@@KallouWhatElse Just like that!
;)
I own an e87 123d since 2013 and i love my "little missile"
I have a 2023 M340D and I think my engine is a TwinPower not twin turbo. The difference I believe is twin power is a single turbo but with two intakes. According to BMW's website, the TwinPower Turbo is one single turbo that comes with two exhaust down tubes.
I just love how you're just spitting the facts about the cars, give a little tease on revs and then give it a go. No bla bla, just gorgeous work.
0:15 'Emma Watson and you're watching carwow'
Id like to see this race again but with a tune on both the m340's... That would be interesting
Alpina B3 should add the engine swap from Saleen S7.R LMGT2.
Want to see that definitely but there’s also a cheap tune for s58
So would like to see tuned 340s against regular s58 and then a race all of them tuned
Gearbox tune on the M340i would be interesting
@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist0: you mixed Soco Bob and Carwow Mat movies probably 😂
@@purwantiallan5089 engine swaps are not that easy buddy
As a pre-LCI M340d Touring owner, this just cements why I love it so much as it literally can do everything. To enjoy this negligible difference in performance (most noticeable here but hardly anything in day to day driving) - but with that also can't get worse than 35mpg when driving it like it's stolen, and best I've had is 740 miles out of tank and 72mpg over a 100 mile journey. The BMW B57 is an engineering masterclass.
I agree. It's all well and good watching the gap grow on a runway, realistically on UK roads a 340d will reach and exceed the speed limit out of any corner/roundabout/sliproad in a matter of seconds. I enjoy accelerating hard in those situations but do like to keep it "at or near" the speed limit so I don't lose my license. To have that performance whilst still getting 45mpg instead of 20 odd is the best of all worlds
Just back from a 2000 mile trip to Europe in mine and averaged 46mpg including 1000 miles in Germany where my average speed was 115mph and 38.7mpg. Backed out of it at 163mph indicated (traffic)
No doubt the 40i is a faster car but for 95% of my driving I’ll take the 40d
@@jammasterflash9448it’s a diesel if I want a six cylinder get a petrol not some garbage diesel that belongs in a truck
@@lukeskywalker1666 each to their own
@@lukeskywalker1666 what a weird narrow minded view.
This is testimony to how good the B58 engine is. Yes, it may not beat the full M car, but it will probably smoke any other car with a similar power output such as the C43 and S4
I think it the best bang for buck.
I remember carwow drag race from years ago when M340i almost beat B9 RS4
@@ChR0nos_7734feels like the m division made this car instead of bmw. Underspecced and overperforms like the m cars.
I mean the new C43 is a 2.0L inline 4 with some electric nonsense going on. Just a turd of a car. It's still somewhat quick but it ain't touching an M340i
I’m almost exactly even with my friend’s 2022 M340i xDrive with my 2017 C43.
So BMW won ?
always
Yeah BMW did won.
All are bmw
@@tiger_boi826 yooo it's Albert einstein
BMW M3
This has been one of THE best episodes EVER if not THE BEST !
Perfect lineup doesn’t exist
The lineup:
Yanni 🥲
Jesko Absolut v Chiron 300+ v Agera One:1 v Nevera
Imagine Yianni being a part
Eh, no RS
I will never get over the buck tooth grill on the G80 M3. The paint and wheels on the Alpina are perfect. I would kill for those wheels for my 340i.
The pig nose is still awful to this day. Love my M340i LCI
@@aus10li 100% real bro
First time i have seen Sam win. That M3 launch is terrific 🔥🔥🔥
M3's launch is like Renault 5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car. Quick off the line.
This….right here…. I don’t have a car these levels but I have 2014 328i touring, I absolutely love it. As a family man as well it’s SO much cooler than a minivan. Thank you for this 🎉😂
All 4 amazing cars, I've driven the 340i and a 440d and brilliant engines and offer brilliant performance
That Alipina is absolutely stunning. The "lots of spokes" wheels never disappoint
They are not fun to clean, but yes, a fantastic look :)
Love it! The race we didn't realise we needed to watch, but did!
Shelby Cobra 427 S/C entered the chat...
The final 5 minutes of the video are pure gold!!!!
Personally love the M3 Touring and was rooting for it the whole video! Would love to get one myself.
19:20 "Carbons dont mean better braking" Finally one understands the purpose of carbons.
The back of the 3 series is just one of the sexiest rear ends of any Bmw!
Indeed 🥰
Mat is the kind of guy who keeps changing the rules on the basketball court when he loses, until he secures a win he takes his ball and goes home. And brags he won. 😆
Yup. Petty child
Was about to type the same 😅
Correct
he is slowly evolving to a tosser
Also, he's pretty rude in this video.
It's like his never before seen side of him.
Timesaver
5:10 First Dragrace
6:30 second Dragrace
7:34 3rd Dragrace
I'll take an Alpina B3 in Alpina Green over tan, silver wheels, no tints. Perfect daily.
Great line up! I would like to see the same race with the X3 cars. Alpina XD3, X3 M Comp, X3 M40i, X3 M40d
I would always go for the 340d as an everyday ride.
For absolute no reason other than saving money...
@@weed46 Yeah so you can do things like afford a mortgage have other hobbies take your family out, not worry about driving across country costing far more…..
@@maxpowers1187 If the engine choice of your luxury car changes the possibility of paying mortgage or not, then you have your priorities wrong... Maybe you should stay with a Renault Megane for the time being.
You need to start using modern gasoline engines my friend... They are A LOT more economical. The 340i has a WLTP of 7.5l per 100km. that's what a 335d did not long ago.
The fuel savings aren't going to save you mortgage.
Diesels for a start are more expensive, then the maintenance is also more expensive. Which means that if you don't drive a lot, it can actually be more costly than petrol.
Not even mentioning resale value.
Why?
A BMW isn’t a luxury car for a start…
The 340d will get 50mpg easily whilst the 340i is in the mid 30’s so that’s your second claim in the bin
Maintenance is also now a complete irrelevant point petrols are just as expensive and more so to service, set of spark plugs for a 340i costing £300 just for plugs…… my father inlaw paid £700 for a full service on his 340i I service mine myself but I was quoted £200 for a fuel service and the 340d and 340i are the exact same price retail so that’s your last point out of the window……. And your obviously unable to detect artistic licence with the point implying that with the 40d will save you money you can spend else where…. its also called Petrol not gasoline the rest of the world doesn’t acknowledge yank speak
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The 340d is the best real world car of the test. In my family we have 340i’s x3 30’ds 340d’s so I have enough knowledge to pass opinion also the resale value of the D’s in GB is is only less because far more people buy 3.0 Diesel’s than petrols making them relatively rare regardless of what the media will have you believe…
9:01 i think this alpina looks really good, the new alpinas are great!
Great stuff Matt, have wanted to see this lineup with the Alpina. On a long road trip the M340d ( or a D3 S) would need half the amount of fill ups as the M3 or B3. Also the B3 would be better on the autobahn than the M3.
That’s not true at all. M340i will do 40mpg easy on long trips.
@@TrueFilteryes correct - I meant vs M3 or B3. Amended 👍🏻
They all performed very well and you've gotta love all of the aftermarket performance options that all of these touring wagons have available to jam more air into the engine for bigger bangs.
Summary: The results were exactly as expected and were also very impressive all round. For driving on UK roads any one of these is an almost perfect all-rounder.
“42.5 mpg that’s the real winner here” tickled me 😂
Day to day the M340D is the best lets be honest
That 340D is a weapon, miles better mileage, near as much performance. Not much downaides with it
Unfortunatelly particulate filter DPF which in city starts to cause problems after 1-2 years
Man that 340d is such a beautiful spec! Ultimate daily
A Top Gear style Roadtrip video would be excellent with you four. Maybe you guys could try something like that. 👍🏽
I have a G20 pre lci 330i. Love this car. Yea, 340i would be better, but its too expensive for me and 330i is also nice 😊
ond of the funniest drag races, i really like the little interior comparison and the weird sitting ones 😂
The fastest car was fastest and the slowest was slowest. These drag races never cease to surprise me.
Finally, all touring race. amazing, keep them coming please!!!!!
I’ve been an audi driver for 8 years, since last month I switched to a bmw 4 series gran coupe, and I gotta say bmw is much more fun and feels much more steady on the road.
The alpina with m3 headlights would look amazing
Mat Watson offers the best aspects in every car he shows us 🙏
Seems like he always has best aspect in every single best car.
I really think the B58 sounds better than the S58.
It certainly does
Definitely. N55 sounded better than S55 too. BMW'S twin turbo sixes don't sound that great. N55 and B58 sound nice though
Well for one Active Autowerke does offer a mid pipe/uel option to make these sound more natural and single turbo like
До 2019 года звук был лучше у b58!
As an owner of an s58 and b58, you’re right. Twin turbos kill the sound as does the unequal length exhaust. But the s58 is a flash tune and e50 away from 800 horsepower. A b58 will need way more mods including an aftermarket turbo.
Absolutely brilliant. I've been waiting for this one. Matt and your team are genius.👍
For me I just love a very thing about Alpina.
Definitely going to look at this as an option come trade in time. 👍🏼
I am driving the m340d as my daily for arround a year now. This car is just perfect! If you want to, you can go at 5,5 L / 100km- or full throttle fun machine. The spread is incredible. 👍
I'd take the M340i any day, the comfiest, smoothest, and quietest in the cabin (along with the M340D) more than quick enough, and with the B58 there's enough headroom to run 500WHP from a good Stage 1
You can also run it in Eco mode. Don't think the M3 does that. It'll coast with the engine off and you can hit mid 40's MPG easily on a run.
B58 are the best engine. Enough power to drive in city and motorways/freeways. M3 is quickest but not a day to day practical car.
@@sexyhunk84 Yep, also I forgot to add the power band of the B58 is far superior to the S58, with peak torque coming in at about 1600rpm up to 5000rpm, whereas the S58 has to be around 2800rpm for max power to kick in, meaning in the real world when you're cruising in 5th/6th gear and you go to 75% throttle for an overtake, it's instant power, whereas the S58 in the same situation would have to kick down to 3rd/4th gear, causing a delay, and using more fuel.
@@Shaggy12321 That's impressive. I feel that when I cruise my X3 M 40i. It has the same B58 engine as you get in 340i. I love driving my BMW. Simply anyday better than their counterpart in Merc and Audi.
@@biddyboy1570M3 has eco modus, watched a m3 review 👍🏻
For me, one of the best drag races in recent times 🤙
Wicked video once again. I loved the seat swap bit. Great humour all round 😆👍🏼
That’s a really great gathering. We need more Alpinas on Carwow, as long as they still exist. BMW owns now Alpina and it’s not clear which direction they go. More luxury or more hybrid/electric power or both. No more B7 and a B5 is unclear.
11.3s for the M3 Touring is really fast. A few years back the F90 M5 got in the best case 11.1s, when the terrible launch control finally worked (and sometimes 12s when not). A rumored CS version could be a lot of fun.
The 340d is the winner for me, good looks and, decent mpg
And slow.
@@TrueFilter for city commute u don't need 500+ hp mate...
@@lordflint6964 better with a 320d or i then.
Just look at that gorgeous alpina. That's what the M3 should have looked like from the beginning
Now let's tune that 40d and 40i for a rematch !!
40 d would win
40d would still lose
give both a tune, the diesel would still lose. it has like 200nm more but still cant keep up because torque matters on a tractor not in a car
@@99Lezard99 Torque absolutely matters on a car. That's what you drive them with. Drag racing might be out of that realm though.
It would be good on steeper road😅@@99Lezard99
as B58 gen1 owner (M240i 6spd), the natural sound is better than the S55/8. Its a great bang for you buck engine as well.
3:10 Good question! Yes, the M340d has two turbos (just like 318d, 320d and 330d as well). One small turbo for low and mid revs (for torque and responsiveness), one bigger turbo for mid and high revs (for power).
"TwinPower Turbo" like seen on the engine cover means nothing. It's either a twin scroll turbo (petrol), a real Twin Turbo (diesel or petrol) or even one single-scroll VTG turbo (diesel).
M340d has single turbo just like 318d, 320d and 330d)
@@KingdomPLThat's not true.
B47TU (318d / 320d) and B57TU (330d / M340d) got a twin-turbo. 335d and 340d have always been twin-turbo Diesel. Alpina D3 S is a twin-turbo, too.
If you don't know what you are talking about please do your research. In m340d you will find B57d3002 which is single turbo. Its a twin scroll SINGLE turbo engine.
@@KingdomPL I think you should do some research. There are no twin scroll turbo diesel - twin scroll single turbo is a technology only for the petrol engine (e.g. 320i, 330i, M340i). The M340d has two VTG turbo charger. Look it up!
PS: Are you trolling?
The Alpina clearly looks the best though
I gotta say it. The diesel looks the best.
With a lowering kit, darker wheels, I think you’d have an absolute menace of a ride.
Small detail, the pre-LCI still has leather at the hornplate. But I‘d say the Alpina looks the best 😀
Rory, Nick and Sam are so great together! I hope we get to see them all together in future races!
I still choose the Alpina ! What a car 😍
Owned a f10 lci 535d for 3 years.
That was a damn nice ride for everyday life. So much torque and averaging below 8l/100km
On motorways sometimes 5,8l/100 too
yeah man i have f11 2011, 525d tuned.300hp 612nm ..i bought it tuned with 200000 km..now it is almost 330000 km .and still going strong ...It use below 8l/100km also ..oke i spent some money to over the year's to keep it healthy ..ore smt .how you say in english ?
Great drag race as always 👍! But: Driving my 2016 F10 with favorite buttons, iDrive, no touch, NavProf - still makes me feel not to miss anything from infotainment point of view - compared to the curved display touch era nowadays 😁
The 340d is absolute lunatic and feel special being least expensive . but M3 is the devil.
Taking into account the fact that the alpina has more torque than the M3, it would have been interesting to see a race from 40mph in 6th gear or something like that. Wonder if the Alpina would have won that. Would you do such races in the future Mat😅? in situations like this
The M3 Touring always launched directly to 6th gear.
I was referring to a race where the cars would be locked in 6th gear in manual mode@@purwantiallan5089
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I have the Alpina D3 S Touring...amazing car
The Alpina is actually the best looking for me. Props to the M3, what it lacks in looks, it makes up for performing like a Japanese😅.... i mean perfectly aftermarket built track car. I would still daily that diesel.
Like a Japanese?
@@6942O-n6n a JDM car ma guy. Pump the brakes there. 😂
We live times when a 3 series beemer weights nearly 2 tons and costs at least 60 grand. Unbelievable...
Inflation is real. In 10 years time, the only brand new cars under 100 Grand will be Chinese cars.
That Alpina is so good looking 😍👌🏿
M340d are a twin turbo indeed. It is a duble twin scroll turbo config. 330d 286hp are similar, twin turbo as well, but a twin scroll and a single scroll turbo config.
Actually I prefer a hand built British race car
Thx for a great race!
P.S.: if you put the cars into Neutral for sound check, you can get rid of soft limiter.
I would love to see 535d vs m550d vs 540i vs 550i! Previous gen then ofcourse
That’s stupid ofc the 40i and 50i would beat these diesels
@lukeskywalker1666 a 40i isnt faster than an m550d period.
@@hexagonosaurus5848 power to weight ratio 140i has same amount of bhp stock and weights 400kilos less, you have no clue about cars
I'm sure the 340d has a small turbo for low down and a large for higher up the rev range like the 35d before it. That twinpower label under the bonnet doesn't help and is on me 435d when it should have twin turbo as it has 2.
It’s a diesel, absolute garbage cars
@lukeskywalker1666 has nothing to do with what I am talking about. It's decent on fuel for a 3.0l and in the real world people with the extra power can't even drive anyway. Its a crusing about car and all these at over 1800kg are boats anyway so hardly nimble b road blasters.
Plus the petrol ones on here sound shit compared to an om606 merc diesel.
And if we are gonna talk about fun. I have a 750kg lightweight 70s rwd opel which let's be honest will be more fun than any of these for a b road blast and can stay in my lane and nip past wide cars without slowing due to the width of some roads in the uk.
Diesel are slow garbage tractors snail for peasants
Nick deserves to drive in every carwow video..he really does entertain us
I have an M340i with a tune. Amazing car for the money. I'm super jealous that you get the Touring. I don't even need it, but it looks so cool.
I swear I’m taking the 340d in this line up. Something about it just looks so good looks a bit lower. Black is beautiful.
Id like to see the same again with the m340i and m340d both at stage 1
Every time Sam gets a good start he gives an evil laugh 😂
it's the most sunday afternoon dad's reunion drag race i ever seen XD, so funny
Coin toss between the two 40s. I’m a B58 fanboy, but in a family wagon like that I see the appeal of the oil burner. If I came into a bunch of money I would probably go Alpina
Do this with the X3s (ALPINA XD3, X3M, X3 M40d, X3 M40i) and 5 Series Tourings (ALPINA B5, ALPINA D5, M550d, M550i)
A car wow video doesn't feel the same without yannie. He just brings in a whole lot of different ball game. Hope we start seeing him again.
Yianni hopefully returns in the next Carwow drag race.
Videos are always better without him. he brings nothing good
Now this is literally the one dragrace we have all been waiting for…
As an indian I see 340d as an absolute win
The zoom in on the hand slap at around 5mins absolutely slayed me for some reason. Props to the editor.
Proper explanation of horsepower vs torque
M340d has two turbos, both of which are twin scroll
Correct. Or at least the one sitting in my garage does. If theirs doesn’t, they probably need to go talk to their BMW press rep, who’s sold one of them for some money for nose candy, and a lap dance or three.
Two twin-scroll turbos doesn't make sense, check your engine code. You don't need twin scrolls if you have two turbos.
@TML34 well, twin power, or shysters BMW call it. But definitely two turbos
Now please follow this up with a range test same like EV's do. That 340d would go for 2 days :)
Only people who are dreaming about these cars thinks so :) Like 1l difference between m340i and a tractor, not that much actually ;)
@@777DaKe777 True. The B58 is amazing engine !
@@777DaKe777 nope. Day to day usage there is a big difference. 70mph highway my 4.0 V8 diesel uses 5/100.
@@hexagonosaurus5848(without mentioning the car and the engine code)@@hexagonosaurus5848 Difference between them is 1l on highway and 3~ in the city. Tested. C63 4.0 v8 also can get 7.3l on 100km, so what?
I wonder what the 340d would be like with a tune up
Probably would beat the regular m340i,I mean imagine the amount of torque would make a difference with a tune,but it will just run out of revs
Alpina B3 all day. A touch of class doesn't hurt.....
Wish it was the m550d, but a very entertaining race never the less!
The B57S would have put on a better show