@@UMBR.the only way I got one manager to back down was by telling her I was at the other end of the country until my next scheduled shift. I would be perfectly happy to come in, however she would need to pay for a taxi. Uber gave a quote of £350. She gave me an earful because apparently her manager had to cover the shift. Not my problem, I make minimum wage.
Just called HR when they wanted me to do some trainings off the clock, so everyone can finish them early, before the due date. HR sent managers a friendly reminder that trainings are supposed to be done only at work, and that anyone asks an employee to work off the clock is subject to PIP or termination.
We had trainings in the computer. There was a computer we could use on-site, but we could also do the trainings at home and write in the hours to get paid for the training.
If this was me after the conversation I would start looking for another job! Haven’t got time working for someone like that. You are work to earn money. Bosses need to understand that. Their bad planning is their problem and the companies problem for making them a boss!
"You pay for 40 hours, the rest costs 25% more, with an added 40% because it's unscheduled, according to the contract BOTH OF US signed. If you feel that's unfair, the union's down the road." That has shut my previous boss's EVERY request of overtime.
Yo last weekend my boss texted me at noon _the day of_ telling me to come in at 1pm & I didn’t end up checking my texts till 1:30 while in the middle of lunch with my family 😀 Yup, asking for advanced notice and communication is key 😭
That's literally what happened to me a month ago when i was on my lunch break i didn't answer her call unintentionally, in the end i felt bad and apologized to her but she kept blaming me for that and asked me if I got any problem with her 😂
As much as I would love to say this is how it goes… it’s not at least not with service industry jobs. They treat you like shit and curse you out when you don’t come in. They threaten everything and anything and if you stand up for yourself they give you less hours the following week
That is the really the way it is, many yrs ago one of my first jobs was like that .In my case,it was a lady manager, obsessed with the restaurant,wanted obsessed workers...we were kids.She ended up, cutting my hours,and then because they hired so many in the beginning the general manager asks if I wanted to work there.I did my job,but I wasn't hanging around ,basically kissing ass..It was money.
I remember I once had to fight to keep my day off the next day. When I did return to work (after my day off) I asked a co-worker if we were busy. He told me it was dead slow.
I had a toxic boss who would ignore major issues. Like I worked with kids, we had kids that would attack their teachers, other students, run out of school, and destroy school property. I ve had chairs thrown at me, been punched, kicked, spat on, body slammed to the ground, screamed at, cussed out, so many things! If I told my boss or showed in the least bit that I was stressed I would either get told “ this is just what we deal with, if u can’t handle it maybe u shouldn’t work here” or I was written up. I was written up for disrespectful body language because I wasn’t smiling while dealing with horrendous behaviors. How should I have responded to that? Keep in mind this was a regular school. I was not specifically working with groups of children with special needs. When I applied I did not expect me being hurt to be almost a daily occurrence.
I know a teacher that had a disrespectful student. When he used to do that, she usually would have sometime to calm herself while walking towards him, but once he disrespected her when she was at his side so she just slapped him. He never misbehaved again. It was a teenager and not a small kid this one.
You're a lot nicer than I am when I'm asked to pick up a shift. It's usually through txt cause I don't answer MY phone when I see that my workplace is calling and they've figured that out pretty quick. It's always a one word answer. Work: I need you to pick up the 7A to 7P Friday. Me: no Work: We're short staffed and you need to start contributing. This is a family and we need to pull together and go above and beyond for each other. So do you really want to leave your fellow coworkers high and dry? Me: yep
I agree with its none of their business why you are not available. Also me, " I cant because I'm watching my grandkids!" Everyone I work with including all managers know NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MY GRANDKIDS! Conversation over.❤😂❤
“I’m going to need you to come in for a shift “ is where the boss was incorrect. Stephanie was maybe available and who knows who else (including them). That’s WHY there’s a manager AND an assistant. If you’re not either of those then YOU are not needed. I’d ask for clarification of why the boss felt the need to word it that way. I’d let them know they have options, but it’s not my personal time that’s theirs to claim they “ need.”
my husband worked in a factory whose manager would literally go around the floor at 5 ( end of shift time) and point to the staff saying your staying till 7 or your starting at 7 am tomorrow or your working Saturday. no questions asked nothing. anyone who didnt comply was given the hardest jobs and then told to not come in the next week. my husband was eventually let go with stupid excuses as he wasn't able to do as much overtime after our second son as we had 2 under 2.
You got lucky I wish it worked like that. If I would’ve said anything related to half of that, my boss would’ve been like. “ oh you can’t come in I thought I was going to be able to depend on you, but since I can’t, I’m gonna have to let you go. Even though I bust my ass day in and day out.
can you also talk about toxic co-works? What if a co-worker projects their laziness? Anything to say to them? And anything to do so the projection won't be adopted by the managers as well?
See a Bad Boss makes me wanna strangle them lol because the fact they’ll try to get over by talking to you however they want and think it’s ok or to make themselves feel better which toxic too 💯
Work hard, go in on time, call out sick only when absolutely necessary and make yourself valuable by delivering top notch work. Then it’s pretty easy to neutralize a toxic boss just by standing your ground and being firm. I’ve also found that if your boss is not the owner or owner’s child, then do THEIR job better than they do and take their job away from them. I did this five times over 40 years and retired early. Never tolerate a toxic boss.
I'm a frequent concert attender, I so feel this on many levels. My previous job always got furious when I took time off, no matter the reason, yes this includes being sick as well. I work now at a way better place where they try helping me as much as possible. But I had a bad experience too. I usually work on Mondays. Which is usually no problem. However, I had a concert on a Monday in September, in my hometown (multiple hours away) and would have a friend stay over for the night at my parents' place. I had asked specifically this Monday and Tuesday off for it, which got approved months in advance. But they needed someone to cover a shift the Monday and immediately contacted me. I refused because I had this planned forever. They called me on my phone, texted me and were saying stuff like: "but you always work Mondays!" And so on. I told them I had this off for months already, so wasn't available. It had some backlash but well, their problem, not mine.
Do you have any tips on practicing not being a toxic coworker or boss? As far as I'm aware I'm a good coworker from what I hear but I'd love to know if that is info you may have talked about already, I'll skim the page
Tip: when taking PTO, don’t tell them what you’re planing, just use it. If they think your hobbies/plans are dumb, they won’t approve your next vacation time thinking it’s not important!
I worked in media for over a decade and a half. Careful with recording. That could be a slippery slope. If you are working in a two-consent state, and they don’t give you their consent to record them, the company could bring on a pretty nasty lawsuit against you. Taking copious notes on the other hand, the company can’t do anything about that. Heck, even ask the manager to sign it acknowledging what they are doing. Then, signed or not, note down the time, date, and location and then take a picture of it with your phone right away to get the time stamp. #TricksOfTheJournalismTrade
happy i went to a vo-tech high school... my teachers (im 38) taught me young to value the worth of my work, and time. Never be a yes man or the moment they say no.. they get uppity... and get paid the worth of your work.. if the job is not matching the value of your time/ effort.. find a better job. I saddly ended up having a fk ton of disabilities physical and mental come up later in life so i get didsability... but i still pay the lessons forward and let people know,
My manager and the HR got really upset at me because I told them I was sick and cant come to the office for a little lunch and get together meeting with the coworkers. Three months before that, they forced me to still work (from home), ordered lunch for them, and doing literally everything I could when I was having a high fever.
Reminds me of my old boss who when i first declained to help out told me my day off arent real days off. I have to be all time avaliable for the company and everything else can wait. One of the reasons why i changed the company and hey.. he never found long term employes
Anyone who thinka they own or control their employees' time ahould not be boss of anyone. Also if you don't have shift agreed properly with proper time, you don't need to explain refusing sudden reguests. Employers need to learn you don't owe them any explanation for having a life.
My manager will just call hr to say that I don't want to work and then hr will call me to tell me that I have to work that's how sad the reality is and I can't do or say anything on my defense
I'm not american, I do not work in america, so I might have slightly different options and work environments than the US without me actually knowing for sure. However, if I had a toxic boss this could very well be what a conversation would look like: Boss: Hey, I need you to come in tomorrow saturday. Me: No Boss: Do you have plans? (In an arrogant tone) Me: I'm not doing jack stuff tomorrow, and definitely not work. See you monday. Boundaries are important and if your boss is a jackass, you treat them like a jackass.
My boss told me to hurry up working so I exploded on her and told her how little she does and how I want her position "so I can get paid to watch people" and she never messed with me again 💀
Hey i have a boss who think that i am lack in communication, while he is barely at his room, he never talk to me either, he just everything to be fast and according to what he likes, while there is system that we need to follow. On the other hand, my job require people to do work, and people hate it. I dint know he is just doing silent treatment all the time, he is always in bad mood. Im so tired of him, i dont know what to do
My overtime rate for "mandatory OT" or with less than 72 hours notice is triple regular hourly rate and 8hrs minimum...double time if given at least 72 hours notice. My theory is if you can't do the job without me then you're not paying me enough to do the job.
Totally off topic but….. What to do when a consulting company reaches out to you about a job, all excited, many phone calls & emails then you’re ghosted. Completely ignored after I gave my DOB for background check.
In the real world she'd be looking to replace you immediately after that conversation was over. This cookie cutter crap isnt reality. There's only one way to deal with a bad boss, stop working for them
Toxic boss would not say such things in those many words!! They just over burden you with tasks that you cannot complete by Friday and has a deadline of Monday or earlier…. Not being able to meet the deadline will make you like you’re incapable and any time you bring that up, you’ll be told others are able to do ! It’s not that straight forward you sss
The fact that they're even asking you to come in on the weekends is crazy to me. No way. I signed up for a nine to five because I wanted steady hours and pay. I am not spending my precious weekend free time doing your bs.
See the problem is the “bosses” y’all make them out to be these rude people and that’s not how good management gets you to do “favors” for them. I used to do the same thing as a manager when extremely short staffed, I would ask super nicely and would completely understand if they said no or showed any sign of hesitation. Most of the time they would stay to help out but I never would make them feel bad for leaving if they chose to.
See the thing is this isn't about how *you* are as a manager. It's about toxic bosses- which includes mine. If the shoe doesn't fit I don't see why you'd comment.
I think you should not say “If I’d be available, I’d totally come”, makes you sound like if you have no plans just to idk relax at home, you would give up that time, but that time is yours, it is non of their business what you do with it, especially if they did not give you notice ahead
i find it very important to not disclose why you cant come in or what your plans are. its none of their business and its good to set boundries.
Exactly thats what my psycho manager asks what ill do on weekends ... And today he was too much
@@UMBR.the only way I got one manager to back down was by telling her I was at the other end of the country until my next scheduled shift. I would be perfectly happy to come in, however she would need to pay for a taxi. Uber gave a quote of £350.
She gave me an earful because apparently her manager had to cover the shift. Not my problem, I make minimum wage.
That's right, boundaries are important!
It's nice to hold hands with somebody else, but sometimes you need to keep it to yourself!
(Dhmis reference)
Agree.
"I am definitely a team player within my working hours :) "
Love this 😊
Just called HR when they wanted me to do some trainings off the clock, so everyone can finish them early, before the due date. HR sent managers a friendly reminder that trainings are supposed to be done only at work, and that anyone asks an employee to work off the clock is subject to PIP or termination.
We had trainings in the computer. There was a computer we could use on-site, but we could also do the trainings at home and write in the hours to get paid for the training.
Whats PIP?
@@tech-wondo4273 performance improvement plan... is a BS way to coach someone when really they're trying to fire you.
Dream. 99% of HR works with management get rid of you. HR doesnt work for the employee.
If this was me after the conversation I would start looking for another job! Haven’t got time working for someone like that.
You are work to earn money. Bosses need to understand that. Their bad planning is their problem and the companies problem for making them a boss!
"You pay for 40 hours, the rest costs 25% more, with an added 40% because it's unscheduled, according to the contract BOTH OF US signed. If you feel that's unfair, the union's down the road."
That has shut my previous boss's EVERY request of overtime.
Yo last weekend my boss texted me at noon _the day of_ telling me to come in at 1pm & I didn’t end up checking my texts till 1:30 while in the middle of lunch with my family 😀
Yup, asking for advanced notice and communication is key 😭
That's literally what happened to me a month ago when i was on my lunch break i didn't answer her call unintentionally, in the end i felt bad and apologized to her but she kept blaming me for that and asked me if I got any problem with her 😂
Boss: What are you doing?
Uh..it's none of your concern.
As much as I would love to say this is how it goes… it’s not at least not with service industry jobs. They treat you like shit and curse you out when you don’t come in. They threaten everything and anything and if you stand up for yourself they give you less hours the following week
That is the really the way it is, many yrs ago one of my first jobs was like that .In my case,it was a lady manager, obsessed with the restaurant,wanted obsessed workers...we were kids.She ended up, cutting my hours,and then because they hired so many in the beginning the general manager asks if I wanted to work there.I did my job,but I wasn't hanging around ,basically kissing ass..It was money.
I remember I once had to fight to keep my day off the next day. When I did return to work (after my day off) I asked a co-worker if we were busy. He told me it was dead slow.
Its just so frustrating thst you have to put in so much more effort in these conversations when your boss clearly doesn't.
"i need you to come in this weekend"
"No."
The more you say, the more they'll try to argue and bargain with you to get you to work.
- can you come in to work on weekends?
- £2000 and I'm in. Otherwise no
I had a toxic boss who would ignore major issues. Like I worked with kids, we had kids that would attack their teachers, other students, run out of school, and destroy school property. I ve had chairs thrown at me, been punched, kicked, spat on, body slammed to the ground, screamed at, cussed out, so many things! If I told my boss or showed in the least bit that I was stressed I would either get told “ this is just what we deal with, if u can’t handle it maybe u shouldn’t work here” or I was written up.
I was written up for disrespectful body language because I wasn’t smiling while dealing with horrendous behaviors. How should I have responded to that?
Keep in mind this was a regular school. I was not specifically working with groups of children with special needs. When I applied I did not expect me being hurt to be almost a daily occurrence.
I went through something similar but not that extreme.
This is where the grass is greener on the other side. I don’t encounter these problems at my school. You can do better :)
I know a teacher that had a disrespectful student. When he used to do that, she usually would have sometime to calm herself while walking towards him, but once he disrespected her when she was at his side so she just slapped him. He never misbehaved again.
It was a teenager and not a small kid this one.
You're a lot nicer than I am when I'm asked to pick up a shift. It's usually through txt cause I don't answer MY phone when I see that my workplace is calling and they've figured that out pretty quick. It's always a one word answer.
Work: I need you to pick up the 7A to 7P Friday.
Me: no
Work: We're short staffed and you need to start contributing. This is a family and we need to pull together and go above and beyond for each other. So do you really want to leave your fellow coworkers high and dry?
Me: yep
Yeah I wouldn’t even respond to a boss like that. And I wouldn’t be working there, so I guess it’s a moot point 😅
😂 the little Pray 4 Stephanie
I agree with its none of their business why you are not available.
Also me, " I cant because I'm watching my grandkids!" Everyone I work with including all managers know NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MY GRANDKIDS!
Conversation over.❤😂❤
Real world: "Ok then, you'll have much free time next week cause you're fired!"
“I’m going to need you to come in for a shift “ is where the boss was incorrect. Stephanie was maybe available and who knows who else (including them). That’s WHY there’s a manager AND an assistant. If you’re not either of those then YOU are not needed.
I’d ask for clarification of why the boss felt the need to word it that way. I’d let them know they have options, but it’s not my personal time that’s theirs to claim they “ need.”
my husband worked in a factory whose manager would literally go around the floor at 5 ( end of shift time) and point to the staff saying your staying till 7 or your starting at 7 am tomorrow or your working Saturday. no questions asked nothing. anyone who didnt comply was given the hardest jobs and then told to not come in the next week. my husband was eventually let go with stupid excuses as he wasn't able to do as much overtime after our second son as we had 2 under 2.
You got lucky I wish it worked like that. If I would’ve said anything related to half of that, my boss would’ve been like. “ oh you can’t come in I thought I was going to be able to depend on you, but since I can’t, I’m gonna have to let you go. Even though I bust my ass day in and day out.
"If you can let me go just like that clearly you don't need me to come into work in the first place."
@@debbiethomas3687 agreed
can you also talk about toxic co-works? What if a co-worker projects their laziness? Anything to say to them? And anything to do so the projection won't be adopted by the managers as well?
It's none of your business. You can tell your boss if it affects the team project, but his/her laziness is not your responsibility or concern.
See a Bad Boss makes me wanna strangle them lol because the fact they’ll try to get over by talking to you however they want and think it’s ok or to make themselves feel better which toxic too 💯
Work hard, go in on time, call out sick only when absolutely necessary and make yourself valuable by delivering top notch work. Then it’s pretty easy to neutralize a toxic boss just by standing your ground and being firm. I’ve also found that if your boss is not the owner or owner’s child, then do THEIR job better than they do and take their job away from them. I did this five times over 40 years and retired early. Never tolerate a toxic boss.
I'm a frequent concert attender, I so feel this on many levels.
My previous job always got furious when I took time off, no matter the reason, yes this includes being sick as well.
I work now at a way better place where they try helping me as much as possible. But I had a bad experience too. I usually work on Mondays. Which is usually no problem. However, I had a concert on a Monday in September, in my hometown (multiple hours away) and would have a friend stay over for the night at my parents' place. I had asked specifically this Monday and Tuesday off for it, which got approved months in advance. But they needed someone to cover a shift the Monday and immediately contacted me. I refused because I had this planned forever. They called me on my phone, texted me and were saying stuff like: "but you always work Mondays!" And so on. I told them I had this off for months already, so wasn't available. It had some backlash but well, their problem, not mine.
Do you have any tips on practicing not being a toxic coworker or boss? As far as I'm aware I'm a good coworker from what I hear but I'd love to know if that is info you may have talked about already, I'll skim the page
Now do one where the boss plays the toxic positivity card and avoids conflict to the detriment of the "team" and has others do her dirty work
Tip: when taking PTO, don’t tell them what you’re planing, just use it. If they think your hobbies/plans are dumb, they won’t approve your next vacation time thinking it’s not important!
Pause and record your boss behaving this way and send to HR voicing your concerns about her behavior.
Umm okay so.... what do you do when your boss is the HR Manager? Asking for a friend obviously.
I worked in media for over a decade and a half. Careful with recording. That could be a slippery slope. If you are working in a two-consent state, and they don’t give you their consent to record them, the company could bring on a pretty nasty lawsuit against you.
Taking copious notes on the other hand, the company can’t do anything about that. Heck, even ask the manager to sign it acknowledging what they are doing. Then, signed or not, note down the time, date, and location and then take a picture of it with your phone right away to get the time stamp. #TricksOfTheJournalismTrade
I just watched videos on HR - this is absolutely NOT what he would advise. HR works for the company, NOT you. They would use the info against you.
happy i went to a vo-tech high school... my teachers (im 38) taught me young to value the worth of my work, and time. Never be a yes man or the moment they say no.. they get uppity... and get paid the worth of your work.. if the job is not matching the value of your time/ effort.. find a better job. I saddly ended up having a fk ton of disabilities physical and mental come up later in life so i get didsability... but i still pay the lessons forward and let people know,
This boss is asking for favors! Please be nice! Don't treat your employees as if a slave!
My manager and the HR got really upset at me because I told them I was sick and cant come to the office for a little lunch and get together meeting with the coworkers. Three months before that, they forced me to still work (from home), ordered lunch for them, and doing literally everything I could when I was having a high fever.
May Luck be with Stephanie! 🍀
Reminds me of my old boss who when i first declained to help out told me my day off arent real days off. I have to be all time avaliable for the company and everything else can wait. One of the reasons why i changed the company and hey.. he never found long term employes
Dam that’s a nice boss my boss gave me a write up for not showing up after changing my schedule on short notice
it's time to start hunting for a new job then
Anyone who thinka they own or control their employees' time ahould not be boss of anyone. Also if you don't have shift agreed properly with proper time, you don't need to explain refusing sudden reguests. Employers need to learn you don't owe them any explanation for having a life.
My manager will just call hr to say that I don't want to work and then hr will call me to tell me that I have to work that's how sad the reality is and I can't do or say anything on my defense
Omg this spoke to my soul
I am on a strict contract of "8 n skate" 5 times a week
Any time someone asks me what kind of plans I have I just say "the non-refundable kind".
I'm not american, I do not work in america, so I might have slightly different options and work environments than the US without me actually knowing for sure. However, if I had a toxic boss this could very well be what a conversation would look like:
Boss: Hey, I need you to come in tomorrow saturday.
Me: No
Boss: Do you have plans? (In an arrogant tone)
Me: I'm not doing jack stuff tomorrow, and definitely not work. See you monday.
Boundaries are important and if your boss is a jackass, you treat them like a jackass.
I would of said that but in a passive agressive way, and things would get ugly.
This feels like having a conversation with Siri or Alexa.
What about a boss who blames you for things you didn't do, takes credit for your work, and gaslights you? What do I do about those?
When are we going to talk about how inappropriate it is for people to be called to work on weekends?
We are allowed to live a life ohtside of the work place.
It never works out like this
My boss told me to hurry up working so I exploded on her and told her how little she does and how I want her position "so I can get paid to watch people" and she never messed with me again 💀
Because you were fired after? 😂 jk jk
This is one of those how to situations they give at orientation.
When we know that still does not apply
Concerts are expensive:(
Hey i have a boss who think that i am lack in communication, while he is barely at his room, he never talk to me either, he just everything to be fast and according to what he likes, while there is system that we need to follow. On the other hand, my job require people to do work, and people hate it. I dint know he is just doing silent treatment all the time, he is always in bad mood. Im so tired of him, i dont know what to do
My overtime rate for "mandatory OT" or with less than 72 hours notice is triple regular hourly rate and 8hrs minimum...double time if given at least 72 hours notice.
My theory is if you can't do the job without me then you're not paying me enough to do the job.
Is it alright for an interviewer to ask how you want to spend your day?
The "University" treats all its employees like this. They have a 5% retention rate.
Silly comment, but here it goes anyway... You natural skin tone is so beautiful 😅 By the way, awesome content!
The first question from the boss is "ARE you available to work this weekend?"
Isn't it the same thing if they try making you stay later than what you're scheduled?
Stephanie 🙏 we send our prayers (and im atheist 😂)
Totally off topic but…..
What to do when a consulting company reaches out to you about a job, all excited, many phone calls & emails then you’re ghosted. Completely ignored after I gave my DOB for background check.
When it comes to reducing staff... The followers of this video are the first ones to be kicked 😂
I'd honestly just put up with it I need the money
They'll either just fire you or make your life hell lol
In the real world she'd be looking to replace you immediately after that conversation was over. This cookie cutter crap isnt reality. There's only one way to deal with a bad boss, stop working for them
This can only happen in the third world, in the first world Asia and the US
Toxic boss would not say such things in those many words!! They just over burden you with tasks that you cannot complete by Friday and has a deadline of Monday or earlier…. Not being able to meet the deadline will make you like you’re incapable and any time you bring that up, you’ll be told others are able to do ! It’s not that straight forward you sss
This feels like victim blaming. The person being hurt has to make the change in behavior and the "boss" continues deplorable behavior with others.
The fact that they're even asking you to come in on the weekends is crazy to me. No way. I signed up for a nine to five because I wanted steady hours and pay. I am not spending my precious weekend free time doing your bs.
I'd get fired😅
And does anyone think this girl actually has the experience to know how this really plays out?… me neither
See the problem is the “bosses” y’all make them out to be these rude people and that’s not how good management gets you to do “favors” for them. I used to do the same thing as a manager when extremely short staffed, I would ask super nicely and would completely understand if they said no or showed any sign of hesitation. Most of the time they would stay to help out but I never would make them feel bad for leaving if they chose to.
See the thing is this isn't about how *you* are as a manager. It's about toxic bosses- which includes mine. If the shoe doesn't fit I don't see why you'd comment.
the caption and title specifically mention this is about toxic bosses, so people that often act manipulative and try to guilt trip their employees
When I hired you I expected you to be at my beck and call more like
It doesn't work all the time
Hell no!
I think you should not say “If I’d be available, I’d totally come”, makes you sound like if you have no plans just to idk relax at home, you would give up that time, but that time is yours, it is non of their business what you do with it, especially if they did not give you notice ahead
Even if your plans are to relax at home that’s why you don’t tell them what they are
Lol hate toxic ownership
Lol, you're fired.
You've already made this video. Why are you making it again ?
Who died and made you office politics guru
What??? I would say NO fire me I don't care....working like a slave in life is it worth it when later you will pay that money for fixing your health?
This is not toxic, this is normal. I have seen a lot worse.
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