NOTE: I put the Front Treal Spindle Carriers on the wrong way. I had them on the right sides, but the logo should be facing out. They put their steering stop on the opposite side that LOSI used which is what I was using as a reference since they don't have instructions on how to do this. So Right goes on the Passenger side of the vehicle with the logo facing the front/outside of the axle where the Treal logo is. Why did you change the steering stop Treal? Why Treal? Why? People without instructions are going to do what I did and look at how their last ones came off and that steering stop would be the most logical reference point. Thanks to mavrick0pm for pointing this out.
Cool looking axles.. should do the trick. Pronoob Rc put out a video fitting the screw-in traxxas control arm pins to replace the king pins that back out. Check it out if you haven't seen or heard about this mod... was super easy. Cheers mate👍
How much dose LMT cost? You don't shoe goo your bodies at all ?. I just repaired a pretty much destroyed x-maxx body with the shoe goo and drywall tape. Very very impressed. And its cheap. A little time consuming. 👍 Good vid
i am trying to figure out what truck i should buy my kid SMT/LMT? i have been looking at the scx24 scale monster trucks too. he is obsessed with monster jam, has like 10 toy grade RC , 1000 1\64 scale diecast, and 40 1\24 scale diecast, not to mention all the micro series lol. i am going to slow the hobby grade down a little with a pinion and motor downgrade but i want to get him something LEGIT. he loves my scx10v3, trx4, bigrock, limitless, etc but i dont want him to break those lol.
I'm not sure which way is 100% correct on the c-hub. I thought the same as you at first with the steering stops in the same location as the plastic ones but then noticed that the 5 degrees that are suppose to be on the Treal axles wasn't there. So when I looked on their website the pictures show them with the steering stops facing forward and all the Treal logos on the same side. When I built mine that way you can see the 5 degrees that comes with the axles.
You are right. I looked at the website and they put the stops on the front. Why Treal? Why? That was my reference point as they didn't supply any directions. I guess I'll be flipping them...though it handled well this way.
They look great and should hold up to tons of punishment. I think the stock housings should cost half of what they sell for $20-25. It seems as if the outer housing (Large front piece of each) needs to be produced using a more durable/flexible composite that could hold up to colder temps (in the 50 degree and up range). Like CCxRC Tony said, there were no issues until the weather dropped in temp. I hope Losi considers using a different plastic even if it is offered as an upgrade to stock. The Treal units quality and machining/material certainly equals the price, but for many it is not a financially capable option. Braces I guess will suit most...or RPM to the rescue?!
I think they need to make the plastic less pieces. The problem is it flexes too much. I'd go solid pieces like the treal but in plastic....or like the Axial axles. There's just too many pieces and then screws to hold them all together.
@@CCxRC they wouldn’t have to go full on metal everything like a beefed up EXB or something, but some metal in a few strategic areas would have been immensely helpful. Not crazy about adding weight to my truck!
Right. That's what I said. It would be on the driver's right hand side. I point to the left and said if you are the driver "here" then it the right would be over "here" and pointed to the right. Saying passenger side would've been easiest.
@@ragnarok5056 what I did do wrong was it was supposed to go logos out. They put their steering stops on the opposite side that Losi did. Without directions that is confusing
@@CCxRC i can imagen, im looking to get one of these trucks for my self, i bought the traxxas summit 1/10 for my son, but these dont sell in Norway unfortunately, and thypical i want the LMT the most 😂
What size is the LMT axle shaft? I purchased a set off Traxxas 12mm aluminum wheel hexs and was wondering if the center hole is big enough for the threaded part of the axle shaft. Would I need to purchase traxxas part# tra6869 which has a bigger hole in center for beefier axles.
My stock ones are holding up, but I've see that RC4WD has released complete axles with internals... Pricey though. You should try get a set and compare with the ones you are running now.
After seeing what the Losi internals can handle, I wouldn't go with the RC4WD ones. I'd rather get metal casings for the LMT internals. RC4WD parts are hard to come by. I believe LMT is going to be the standard for aftermarket parts. You don't see that with the RC4WD stuff.
@@CCxRC I have to agree. The LMT sets standards all around, except for axle casings. I bought a nice launch ramp. Gonna see how it flies. Hopefully the axle casings hold up cause all I can source here is RC4WD’s aftermarket replacements and they cost about $300 a set.
@@Triggered-RC yikes. Do the RC4wd work with the Losi internals or you just mean you’d have to switch axles completely? I haven’t seen anything but the scale axles they made before and the ones they now make for their RC4WD monster truck
Brother you have no idea how much I appreciate this, i just got my son and my self both trucks and my son ended up breaking his front axle, I just ordered both front axles but had no idea, I’ve seen a couple of videos but nothing detailed as yours, if you have any rear steering upgrade video fully detailed as this one please let me know. Once again thanks a lot🤜🏼🤛🏼
Can't buy parts for these anywheres not even stock parts everything is sold out!! Mine is still brand new in the box I might just sell it and get something less popular so that nobody is gonna be buying up all the parts amd upgrades
Hi Tony & Gandolf cool video very informative, those axels look much more durable than the plastic braces if that day comes when my stock axles break $672 for 4 axles as I have both rtr Diggers not trippin tho keepin them stock as long as possible & OR isnt as cold as VA, keep up the awesome footage see ya in the dirt 😎👊
Treal and their paid off Facebook posters are the absolute worst, I will never give them a single penny. Vitavon has 7075 axles coming next week, much nicer final product and is someone with morals that I can actually support.
I have not come across any of them. I know of one person who is sponsored by them and they don't get anything but a discount on purchases. I paid full price for mine, but haven't had any dealings with Treal other than buying their SMT10 steering links. I haven't had any deals with Vitavon, but plan to wait and support Hesse Machine when his come out as he has been in the RC monster truck game for a long time and they are made in the USA. I just wanted to test these and see if the the fit was good for people who may be afraid to drop the money. I'd say they are very impressive.
For the aluminum rear end can you tell me where to get them you said New York in somewhere else If possible can you give me the address thanks I appreciate it because I cracked my rear end and a half thanks
If the bearings are that hard to get in the are going to be impossible to get out. It's really going to suck when your $2 bearing makes you $200 axle completely useless
The toe in helps the truck feel more stable. I'm wondering if it helps with the pull to the right i was feeling. These axles seemed to track straighter.
NOTE: I put the Front Treal Spindle Carriers on the wrong way. I had them on the right sides, but the logo should be facing out. They put their steering stop on the opposite side that LOSI used which is what I was using as a reference since they don't have instructions on how to do this. So Right goes on the Passenger side of the vehicle with the logo facing the front/outside of the axle where the Treal logo is.
Why did you change the steering stop Treal? Why Treal? Why? People without instructions are going to do what I did and look at how their last ones came off and that steering stop would be the most logical reference point.
Thanks to mavrick0pm for pointing this out.
Where do you get all your tools to work on these small hex’s and screws?
@@matttapscott48 at my local hobby shop. Most can be bought on Amain or Amazon in an RC hex driver set.
Thanks for making this awesome tutorial. You made it look quite easy and explained everything in great detail.
I think they will hold up hold up better than the plastic in all temperatures👌👍 Aluminum can break But I'm giving the big thumbs up👍🚜
Thanks for making this video 🎉 im going to go with the blue color ✌️
Cool looking axles.. should do the trick.
Pronoob Rc put out a video fitting the screw-in traxxas control arm pins to replace the king pins that back out. Check it out if you haven't seen or heard about this mod... was super easy.
Cheers mate👍
I saw that trick on Facebook. Very easy solution. Maybe losi will just make one that is the right size
How much dose LMT cost? You don't shoe goo your bodies at all ?. I just repaired a pretty much destroyed x-maxx body with the shoe goo and drywall tape. Very very impressed. And its cheap. A little time consuming. 👍 Good vid
$649. With two spektrum batts, spektrum charger. $1002 from Tower Hobbies.
i am trying to figure out what truck i should buy my kid SMT/LMT? i have been looking at the scx24 scale monster trucks too. he is obsessed with monster jam, has like 10 toy grade RC , 1000 1\64 scale diecast, and 40 1\24 scale diecast, not to mention all the micro series lol. i am going to slow the hobby grade down a little with a pinion and motor downgrade but i want to get him something LEGIT. he loves my scx10v3, trx4, bigrock, limitless, etc but i dont want him to break those lol.
They look epic mate 👍
Hey did u have hard time removing the drive shaft? I stripped the grub scew cause its so tight. Any adivise?
Dang she just got THICK!! 😎🤘 sweet axle holder there too!
I'm not sure which way is 100% correct on the c-hub. I thought the same as you at first with the steering stops in the same location as the plastic ones but then noticed that the 5 degrees that are suppose to be on the Treal axles wasn't there. So when I looked on their website the pictures show them with the steering stops facing forward and all the Treal logos on the same side. When I built mine that way you can see the 5 degrees that comes with the axles.
You are right. I looked at the website and they put the stops on the front. Why Treal? Why? That was my reference point as they didn't supply any directions. I guess I'll be flipping them...though it handled well this way.
Is it toe in or out
@@CCxRC It's 5 degrees of castor that Treal adds to their c-hubs.
@@mavrick0pm Ok. Sorry. I thought it was a toe in. I'll have to go back and set mine up properly
Looks nice. Who makes the axle stands?
Nice, I know you were on a mission to fix this.
😁👍Looks good! 😜 Now go break it!
They look great and should hold up to tons of punishment. I think the stock housings should cost half of what they sell for $20-25. It seems as if the outer housing (Large front piece of each) needs to be produced using a more durable/flexible composite that could hold up to colder temps (in the 50 degree and up range). Like CCxRC Tony said, there were no issues until the weather dropped in temp. I hope Losi considers using a different plastic even if it is offered as an upgrade to stock. The Treal units quality and machining/material certainly equals the price, but for many it is not a financially capable option. Braces I guess will suit most...or RPM to the rescue?!
I think they need to make the plastic less pieces. The problem is it flexes too much. I'd go solid pieces like the treal but in plastic....or like the Axial axles. There's just too many pieces and then screws to hold them all together.
@@CCxRC totally agree tony i just broke my lmt today right down the center of that seam like yours did
@@CCxRC they wouldn’t have to go full on metal everything like a beefed up EXB or something, but some metal in a few strategic areas would have been immensely helpful. Not crazy about adding weight to my truck!
Very cool, btw right side is the “passenger” side on a vehicle, drivers side is left on that particular truck
Right. That's what I said. It would be on the driver's right hand side. I point to the left and said if you are the driver "here" then it the right would be over "here" and pointed to the right. Saying passenger side would've been easiest.
@@CCxRC ahhh oki hahaha yeap it always confusing lol, i was just worried you would put it on the wrong way, it looked like a dang fine axle set up
@@ragnarok5056 what I did do wrong was it was supposed to go logos out. They put their steering stops on the opposite side that Losi did. Without directions that is confusing
@@CCxRC i can imagen, im looking to get one of these trucks for my self, i bought the traxxas summit 1/10 for my son, but these dont sell in Norway unfortunately, and thypical i want the LMT the most 😂
What size is the LMT axle shaft? I purchased a set off Traxxas 12mm aluminum wheel hexs and was wondering if the center hole is big enough for the threaded part of the axle shaft. Would I need to purchase traxxas part# tra6869 which has a bigger hole in center for beefier axles.
My stock ones are holding up, but I've see that RC4WD has released complete axles with internals... Pricey though. You should try get a set and compare with the ones you are running now.
After seeing what the Losi internals can handle, I wouldn't go with the RC4WD ones. I'd rather get metal casings for the LMT internals. RC4WD parts are hard to come by. I believe LMT is going to be the standard for aftermarket parts. You don't see that with the RC4WD stuff.
@@CCxRC I have to agree. The LMT sets standards all around, except for axle casings. I bought a nice launch ramp. Gonna see how it flies. Hopefully the axle casings hold up cause all I can source here is RC4WD’s aftermarket replacements and they cost about $300 a set.
@@Triggered-RC yikes. Do the RC4wd work with the Losi internals or you just mean you’d have to switch axles completely? I haven’t seen anything but the scale axles they made before and the ones they now make for their RC4WD monster truck
@@CCxRC They include their internals. Here’s a taobao link to a front axel item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=38644298142
Which I guess is the only axel. Need to either go 4 wheel steer or throw a link on the back to keep the rear straight.
Brother you have no idea how much I appreciate this, i just got my son and my self both trucks and my son ended up breaking his front axle, I just ordered both front axles but had no idea, I’ve seen a couple of videos but nothing detailed as yours, if you have any rear steering upgrade video fully detailed as this one please let me know. Once again thanks a lot🤜🏼🤛🏼
Glad it was helpful
First great video tony!!!
instead of the stress going to the axles, it might transfer to the links and break them.
Plastic Axle like 50 bucks each ,so breaking a links is cheaper then that axle .by alot.
@@hoosier-daddy437 i figured that, i was just digressing.
I've bashed it and the links hold up better than any other trucks links I"ve run. Not breaking rod ends all the time.
@@CCxRC well that’s good. the axles do sure look nice.
Have you or anyone you know changed out the gearbox housing. Just received my Treal housing and not exactly sure where to start.
Can't buy parts for these anywheres not even stock parts everything is sold out!! Mine is still brand new in the box I might just sell it and get something less popular so that nobody is gonna be buying up all the parts amd upgrades
Where did you get those hex tips? I could chuck them right in my garbage skil driver.
Hi Tony & Gandolf cool video very informative, those axels look much more durable than the plastic braces if that day comes when my stock axles break $672 for 4 axles as I have both rtr Diggers not trippin tho keepin them stock as long as possible & OR isnt as cold as VA, keep up the awesome footage see ya in the dirt 😎👊
Treal and their paid off Facebook posters are the absolute worst, I will never give them a single penny. Vitavon has 7075 axles coming next week, much nicer final product and is someone with morals that I can actually support.
I have not come across any of them. I know of one person who is sponsored by them and they don't get anything but a discount on purchases. I paid full price for mine, but haven't had any dealings with Treal other than buying their SMT10 steering links. I haven't had any deals with Vitavon, but plan to wait and support Hesse Machine when his come out as he has been in the RC monster truck game for a long time and they are made in the USA. I just wanted to test these and see if the the fit was good for people who may be afraid to drop the money. I'd say they are very impressive.
For the aluminum rear end can you tell me where to get them you said New York in somewhere else If possible can you give me the address thanks I appreciate it because I cracked my rear end and a half thanks
I guess it’s time. Tearing it apart now to install Treal axles front and rear.
Tips and tricks appreciated!
Wow those are sweet Tony, yeah I’m sure they’ll hold up appreciate you sharing
Passenger side just thought I’d throw that in there
Are the stock ones that weak? The two new ones you put on cost 60% of the truck new.
Where did you get the differential housing stand you used?
I have the Vitavon axles. They both look awesome tho!!!
If the bearings are that hard to get in the are going to be impossible to get out. It's really going to suck when your $2 bearing makes you $200 axle completely useless
You could tap them out with a small screwdriver with the input gear removed 👍
@@PatsRC not when the outer race comes off like they normally do when the bearing explode :P
Yeah well worth it, I went with the silver they look so awesome
Awesome axles what's the Cost$$$🇺🇲😎👍
Hey man what shocks would you recommend to replace the stock? I broke one and would want to upgrade
I’m running stock on all of mine with no plans to upgrade them. If I did...I’d probably look at the Pro-line XT shocks
@@CCxRC would you then instead recommend thicker oil? I'd just like to avoid breaking it again. I appreciate your input
Damn those are nice! Why is there so much toe on the rear axle? Or any for that matter?
The toe in helps the truck feel more stable. I'm wondering if it helps with the pull to the right i was feeling. These axles seemed to track straighter.
Super slick awesome Truck👍👍👍🇺🇲
Nice review of Treal axles Tony
Nice friend ✔🚙 💨💨
It should be awesome
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oh should i use my tax return money to get one of these!?! Awesome little trucks
Depends if that is play money or not :)
Good point. Since im a home owner I better put that money in savings. I think my water heater is on its way out. Dang responsibilities
What is the purpose of the 5 degree toe over the 0 degree?
supposed to have better control.
Great video
Junk
Man those axle housing are pricey $168.00 per axle...DAG NABBIT 🤯
Yeah. They are pricey, but make it soooo tough.
@@CCxRC yes it seems so thanks for buying and posting the video 👍👍
Those look great... put some better shocks on it.
These shocks work pretty great in my opinion. Might change the oil in them, but the shocks themselves have been good