Something I've noticed as I get older, is it's not about peak power figures, it's about how that power is spread out through the rpm. Bikes like this may only have 70ish hp, but with a nice mid-low range punch it doesn't matter. I love my tuned MT10 with 160hp, but without breaking the law I'm only utilizing like 70hp most of the time anyway
@@aka_pierrethe wild hogs thing? :D Past midlife men thingy that just got rid of the mortgage, kids, the wife or all of it. And if they like to listen softrock or Country ofc. If it is more synthie pop they will go for something sporty like an M1000R and if it has been punk it's KTM 690 Enduro R they jump on... to find out ot is a GS they want to ride geared up to starbucks and back. But yeah, guess ur right. :) 😅
@@ronr6605 I mean that for all their faults, HD air cooled motors are torque rich, and that's why they have some appeal still. I went down the supersport/sportbike route too (VFR, s1000rr, tuono v4) and I still have the most fun on a torque KTM 990 v2. Butt dyno is a real thing.
@@aka_pierre got it. 990 superduke?! 👍 So you like them characterful gals. :)) Sadly nothing for this terrain, we got too many hairpins over here and she is known to like it hard. 😅 I like howl and torque from down-low with predictable pickup, so it's an liter-i4-naked and I got to live with the missing balancershaft. Harley tho is nothing for me, except they would put it in a naked chassis, I'm that bad of a rider that needs to feel the front atleast in the fingertips.
This is my bike and I love it. Does everything perfect, traveling, two up, twistiest, off-road, low budget and low consumption, super reliable, etc. Etc. Great video as always 👍👍👍
I've literally just listened this whole video on my headphones while working. T7 sounds so fruity, it's just like listening to some good, chilling music.
Still love my T7 after 3 and a half years...such a brilliant engine! I'd like to change the exhaust for weight and aesthetics...but the standard pipe sounds so good. For comfort i tried an Airhawk seat , a sheepskin cover....finally i fitted one of the Cool Covers mesh seat cover and it's all day comfortable. Can't see myself ever parting with the T7. Great video from you as always Schaaf!! Cheers Steve 💚
Your video (especially at lower speeds) reminded me that I didnt miss at all the noise from the AX41s... However, i was really impressed with their cornering abilities - very soft though, quickly destroyed rear and front.
Drove well as always, provided there was a passenger on the back. I would like to ask whether this motorcycle is a good everyday bike? And what is your personal bike or personal favorite? Thanks in advance
I went from an f4i riding all around the country and even some Dirt roads, test road several sport tourers and wasn’t that impressed. Picked up an 1150gs and have loved it, impressive how well it handles the twisties while also going 70mph on dirt. I’m getting pretty good riding off road with it but you are limited with the weight and have to be pretty careful what you get yourself into. I test ride a t7 and it does feel like a dirt bike, but lacking power. Even against the old 1150. L
Toll gemacht, Vale-ntin! Einmal fuhr ich so ein Tenere von mein Freund, und bin auf die selben Sachen gekommen. Neben bei die Gereusch von Enduro-Reifen auf der Asphalt macht mich kaputt( aber das ist persönliche Vorgeschmack). Gut gefahren von Beifahrerin auch, kein einziger Headbanger gefasst durch den ganzen Video! :) Das ware toll auf ein Maiden- Konzert, aber beim zu Zweit fahren ist hasslich wie verrükt :) Gruss
Nice review as always 👌 Interesting question I have for you is "if you can choose between T7 and V 85 TT in general? Greetings from Croatia and keep the good work 🤟
Hello, how do you configure the sound recorder? I have the same one and I can't get a good, clean sound out of my T7. I hope you can help me!! greetings
2 up riding have your ever experienced dangerous lack of braking ? I mean emergency braking , endurance going down moutains ? (Driving casually not crazy, is it still safe) I’m looking for a replacement of my s1000xr ,changing wold i now want a do it all bike for reasonnable price , good braking , 70-90hp and 2 up riding and light off road ready
Bad part is that for an all around bike (meaning good to ride all year round, on/off road, passenger/no passenger, on/offroad, super reliable, super cheap to maintain, long distance travel/daily commuting, etc...) we have only 3 options to choose from (for now) but the good part is that all 3 of them are really good; those being VStrom 650/650XT, Transalp 750 and Tenere 700. So you just need to pick whichever one you think fits your type of riding and purpose the most, equip/install some features and addons to make your ride/experience fit whatever you want to do and you will have yourself the closest thing to that do-it-all ''Unicorn bike'' that everyone wants. In my case, I'm soon upgrading from an old VStrom to the new 2024 Tenere World Rally.
With a CP2 the chasis almost does not matter ;) I've not yet had the opportunity to ride a T7 but at my last Großglockner trip I might have seen nearly as many as GS's - popular for a reason I guess.
Would you have any more details on the chin mount? I can't seem to find a brand with good enough reviews to spend my money on. I'd also be terrified of dropping my camera mid-ride. Otherwise, satisfying riding as always! Even cooler to watch considering I own a T7.
@@Schaaf thanks. Pity I'm currently using a Nolan N87 and that has a large and uneven vent on the chin. I've also looked at some alternative custom pads for the helmet specifically, but reviews are far from great, with many saying the mount came right off while riding. I'll consider one of them, but maybe adding better glue or possibly even screwing it in.
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I wish there were a Tenere 900, so it can maybe be a replacement for my 890 ADV
Do you think upgrading the pads would fix the braking problem? I'm currently thinking about upgrading from my Tenere 660 to the T7 since I love the CP2 engine. But I often ride two up and because of your video I just found out the T7 has a smaller brake than my 660, despite the increased engine power🤔
My rear pads were gone every 3000km, spirit street riding 30% time touring with pillion. Pads were cheap, but I needed to carry them with me on long tours or tyre change where I replaced them just between. Sold my T7 after 3 months and 10kkm. One of the best bikes with the worst seat off all time. (Tried coolcover, sheep skin, air hawk, ...)
You could definitely improve it but I also doubt it would be sufficient for spirited two up riding. But it looks like some of my viewers can help you better with that anyway :)
I think the T7 has a lack of power for two up. The T7 does the job, but I see you change to first gear in every hairpin. Solo there's no need for that. Under braking you would be more than happy with HK suspension front springs. The standard is to soft and the bike dives to much. I can only imagine what it will do two up and luggage. For the rest you are spot on. Thanks for sharing the vid.
Yea 'enough power' is a personal matter I guess. I was more than happy with it. And those hairpins were so tight (Stelvio stuff) I'd take those in first on any bike ;)
Die "mageren" 73 Ps haben mich bissl zweifeln lassen ! Aber passt alles , das Ding geht echt gut !!!! Schwerpunkt ist aber sehr hoch ! meine DR Big mit 25kg mehr auf den Rippen fühlt sich dagegen an wie ein Fahrrad beim rangieren !! Aber geiles Moped , nicht eine Sekunde bereut !
Does anyone have any input on which engine is better for an adventure bike? Inline Twin or a Parallel Twin? Not sure to go with either the Africa Twin or Tenere 700 next year.
If you mean the crossplane of the CP2, i think the Africa Twin has the same crossplane as the Tenere. Both are imitating a V2 with 90 dregrees. The inline twins of the Ktm are imitating a 75 degree V2. Does this answer your question?
Farla pagare 300 euro in più e darle freni degni no eh? Andare al risparmio sui freni è una cosa che mi fa andare in bestia. Anche perché se poi vuoi sistemarli in pezzi aftermarket ti partono soldoni...
T7’s biggest weakness is its highway ability. The engine is too weak. Most consumers need to drive at least 1-2 hours even to find gravel roads or twist like the video, meaning comfortable 1-3hours @ 80-90mph (125-140kmh) highway cruising ability is the big plus. Indeed, this is the Achilles for most of the Mid-weight, and most people eventually choose GS1250 or similar. In reality, 90%+ consumers don’t touch offroad but pick ADV bikes as an alternative to conventional touring bikes. I know there’s Tracer, but I still hope Yamaha makes T9 for 85:15 or 90:10 Onroad/Offroad bikes, competing against somewhere between Suzuki 800 and S1000gx.
Something I've noticed as I get older, is it's not about peak power figures, it's about how that power is spread out through the rpm. Bikes like this may only have 70ish hp, but with a nice mid-low range punch it doesn't matter. I love my tuned MT10 with 160hp, but without breaking the law I'm only utilizing like 70hp most of the time anyway
I think for most people torque is the most important thing. It's also the reason why Harley Davidson sells any bikes at all. :)
@@aka_pierrethe wild hogs thing? :D Past midlife men thingy that just got rid of the mortgage, kids, the wife or all of it. And if they like to listen softrock or Country ofc. If it is more synthie pop they will go for something sporty like an M1000R and if it has been punk it's KTM 690 Enduro R they jump on... to find out ot is a GS they want to ride geared up to starbucks and back. But yeah, guess ur right. :) 😅
@@ronr6605 I mean that for all their faults, HD air cooled motors are torque rich, and that's why they have some appeal still. I went down the supersport/sportbike route too (VFR, s1000rr, tuono v4) and I still have the most fun on a torque KTM 990 v2. Butt dyno is a real thing.
@@aka_pierre got it. 990 superduke?! 👍 So you like them characterful gals. :)) Sadly nothing for this terrain, we got too many hairpins over here and she is known to like it hard. 😅
I like howl and torque from down-low with predictable pickup, so it's an liter-i4-naked and I got to live with the missing balancershaft. Harley tho is nothing for me, except they would put it in a naked chassis, I'm that bad of a rider that needs to feel the front atleast in the fingertips.
I've moved from 5 years with mt10 to a t7 soon. Exactly why is what you've detailed. MT still a great machine
This is my bike and I love it. Does everything perfect, traveling, two up, twistiest, off-road, low budget and low consumption, super reliable, etc. Etc.
Great video as always 👍👍👍
Awesome machine indeed!
this is MY bike and i love it, too ! 😍😍😍
Same here , i love my T7 and my wife is always happy to go for a ride.
I've literally just listened this whole video on my headphones while working. T7 sounds so fruity, it's just like listening to some good, chilling music.
That's awesome!
It's really hard to believe that the sound is coming from the stock exhaust! Great vid as usual
Indeed! The T7 sounds amazing!
Still love my T7 after 3 and a half years...such a brilliant engine! I'd like to change the exhaust for weight and aesthetics...but the standard pipe sounds so good. For comfort i tried an Airhawk seat , a sheepskin cover....finally i fitted one of the Cool Covers mesh seat cover and it's all day comfortable. Can't see myself ever parting with the T7. Great video from you as always Schaaf!! Cheers Steve 💚
Thanks Steve!!
Try the cheap Mivv/Hashiruo oval low pipe. I have it and the sound is even better than standard pipe.
For me . Arrow titanium 72649PK slip on full exhaust with Dna stage 2 air filter is the best sound ever !
Cheers from Greece man !!
Such an impressive engine. Two up with panniers and it's just pulling.
Indeed
It's doing great job going uphill even with passenger behind💪❤
Indeed
Wow Amazing scenery, riding skills, and the sound of the bike great video keep up the good work…
One thing about the T7, wherever it takes you, you can be confident that it will bring you home. Rock solid reliability.
True
Japanese. same with African twin
How did you like the handguards? I find they give a sense of heavy dutiness- like you can survive anything that could happen!
Nice one @schaaf. How does this compare to the Africa Twin ride you had with a pillion?
Less torque, less comfort, less space. Obviously :)
Your video (especially at lower speeds) reminded me that I didnt miss at all the noise from the AX41s... However, i was really impressed with their cornering abilities - very soft though, quickly destroyed rear and front.
I've yet to find 50/50 tires that don't make any noise :)
Wow this bike sounds great stock
Absolute epic views and that bike looks great. Would love yo have a test ride.
Thanks
Wicked place to ride! Nice video!
Yes it was! Thank you
I definitely have to try out the Tenere once....
Hope you get the chance!!
Sounds better than the Harley video.❤
Agreed, again
Drove well as always, provided there was a passenger on the back. I would like to ask whether this motorcycle is a good everyday bike? And what is your personal bike or personal favorite? Thanks in advance
I wouldn't take a tall ADV as everyday bike. Personally I only own old Hondas
I went from an f4i riding all around the country and even some
Dirt roads, test road several sport tourers and wasn’t that impressed. Picked up an 1150gs and have loved it, impressive how well it handles the twisties while also going 70mph on dirt. I’m getting pretty good riding off road with it but you are limited with the weight and have to be pretty careful what you get yourself into.
I test ride a t7 and it does feel like a dirt bike, but lacking power. Even against the old 1150. L
I'll just look at Pol Tarres and immediately will realise that power is not an issue lol
Toll gemacht, Vale-ntin!
Einmal fuhr ich so ein Tenere von mein Freund, und bin auf die selben Sachen gekommen. Neben bei die Gereusch von Enduro-Reifen auf der Asphalt macht mich kaputt( aber das ist persönliche Vorgeschmack).
Gut gefahren von Beifahrerin auch, kein einziger Headbanger gefasst durch den ganzen Video! :)
Das ware toll auf ein Maiden- Konzert, aber beim zu Zweit fahren ist hasslich wie verrükt :)
Gruss
Hahaha guter Kommentar :D
Nice review as always 👌
Interesting question I have for you is "if you can choose between T7 and V 85 TT in general?
Greetings from Croatia and keep the good work 🤟
T7 Offroad, V85 onroad
Did you do anything to modify seat? How comfortable is it?
Hello, how do you configure the sound recorder? I have the same one and I can't get a good, clean sound out of my T7. I hope you can help me!! greetings
terlihat gagah di balik setang kemudi ditambah pemandangan yang indah ,,sukses Schaaf !
Thanks a lot!
Alucinante 🤩
Thanks!
A happy Schööfl is my favourite Schööfl :)
:)
2 up riding have your ever experienced dangerous lack of braking ? I mean emergency braking , endurance going down moutains ? (Driving casually not crazy, is it still safe)
I’m looking for a replacement of my s1000xr ,changing wold
i now want a do it all bike for reasonnable price , good braking , 70-90hp and 2 up riding and light off road ready
Bad part is that for an all around bike (meaning good to ride all year round, on/off road, passenger/no passenger, on/offroad, super reliable, super cheap to maintain, long distance travel/daily commuting, etc...) we have only 3 options to choose from (for now) but the good part is that all 3 of them are really good; those being VStrom 650/650XT, Transalp 750 and Tenere 700. So you just need to pick whichever one you think fits your type of riding and purpose the most, equip/install some features and addons to make your ride/experience fit whatever you want to do and you will have yourself the closest thing to that do-it-all ''Unicorn bike'' that everyone wants. In my case, I'm soon upgrading from an old VStrom to the new 2024 Tenere World Rally.
Great video ! I'm thinking of world raid for solo rides road and trails and travelling with passenger for vacation !
With a CP2 the chasis almost does not matter ;) I've not yet had the opportunity to ride a T7 but at my last Großglockner trip I might have seen nearly as many as GS's - popular for a reason I guess.
Indeed! It's one big success story for yamaha
Would you have any more details on the chin mount? I can't seem to find a brand with good enough reviews to spend my money on. I'd also be terrified of dropping my camera mid-ride. Otherwise, satisfying riding as always! Even cooler to watch considering I own a T7.
Sure, I use a GoPro sticky pad and have a helmet that has decent space for that :) Quite simple
@@Schaaf thanks. Pity I'm currently using a Nolan N87 and that has a large and uneven vent on the chin. I've also looked at some alternative custom pads for the helmet specifically, but reviews are far from great, with many saying the mount came right off while riding. I'll consider one of them, but maybe adding better glue or possibly even screwing it in.
I wish there were a Tenere 900, so it can maybe be a replacement for my 890 ADV
What you think about Triumph Tiger 900 or Ducati Desertx?
There was also the Mv Agusta 9.5 with the triple engine but at this point I don't think we will see it definitely on the road.
@@pierfrancescotancredi8353 I don't like them. Maybe the Moto Guzzi Stelvio is something to think about.
I wish this too!!!nothing else except an T9 !!!but for now T7 all the way,my bike!!
Maybe one day
Grüß dich. Was für ein Auspuff arbeitet in diese T7? Wenn stock, dann von was so soldatisch "rattatata? Vielleicht geht er ohne mit dbkiller?
Alles stock, das Geräusch macht die Yamaha unabhängig vom Auspuff. Aber mit einem Zubehör-Auspuff kann man es dann besser hören als Fahrer
Is that tire noise I’m hearing? Thanks great ride!
Yes, thanks
How you behaved when you realized theat the rear brake had vanished? It's Dangerous?
Do you think upgrading the pads would fix the braking problem? I'm currently thinking about upgrading from my Tenere 660 to the T7 since I love the CP2 engine. But I often ride two up and because of your video I just found out the T7 has a smaller brake than my 660, despite the increased engine power🤔
You can improve definitely, look for the Brembo high spec pads, the have an option for road or off road. Sharper bite.
My rear pads were gone every 3000km, spirit street riding 30% time touring with pillion. Pads were cheap, but I needed to carry them with me on long tours or tyre change where I replaced them just between.
Sold my T7 after 3 months and 10kkm. One of the best bikes with the worst seat off all time. (Tried coolcover, sheep skin, air hawk, ...)
You could definitely improve it but I also doubt it would be sufficient for spirited two up riding. But it looks like some of my viewers can help you better with that anyway :)
Thank you all for your answers✌🏻
@@perimund > try seat concepts, real top choice! I run it 37k km! Have already second T7! Regards!
V strom 800de o tenere t7 ?con cual te quedas?
Hello, what camera was this video shot on?
❤
Is this bike as good as the V Strom 800 DE 2 up with luggage your appraisal of the DE was very very good.
The V Strom is better onroad and the T7 better offroad
do you think you would enjoyed more the transalp750 in this trip?
Since I was offroading hard, definitely not
@@Schaaf if you wouldnt off roading?
I like to enjoy the view while riding but damn all those turns is more important I will enjoy the view at the top haha 😂 “every rider out there”
Yep! :D
Including road SH20, this is one of the best road on that location(Albania)
Thanks!
Tolle Landschaft und der Belag sieht besser aus wie bei mir daheim :D
Hehehe der war dort auch wirklich exzellent
You have a shifter right ?
I think the T7 has a lack of power for two up. The T7 does the job, but I see you change to first gear in every hairpin. Solo there's no need for that. Under braking you would be more than happy with HK suspension front springs. The standard is to soft and the bike dives to much. I can only imagine what it will do two up and luggage. For the rest you are spot on. Thanks for sharing the vid.
Yea 'enough power' is a personal matter I guess. I was more than happy with it. And those hairpins were so tight (Stelvio stuff) I'd take those in first on any bike ;)
👍
Did you travel across Greece ?
Only parts of Northern Greece
Nice. Greetings from Athens GR !@@Schaaf
Can you do a qna again ? It's been awhile
I don't know if this is a joke but just yesterday I made a post asking you people for your questions :D
@@Schaaf oh, didn't see it im my feed my bad
Die "mageren" 73 Ps haben mich bissl zweifeln lassen !
Aber passt alles , das Ding geht echt gut !!!! Schwerpunkt ist aber sehr hoch ! meine DR Big mit 25kg mehr auf den Rippen fühlt sich dagegen an wie ein Fahrrad beim rangieren !! Aber geiles Moped , nicht eine Sekunde bereut !
Jup, der hohe Schwerpunkt lässt einen manchmal hart ackern. Aber sonst absolut grandios :)
Omg you have 3 arms 😁
4
270 crank?
With stock suspension??
Yes
😀👍
Thanks
Are you in mph or kph?
Did you ever do 30mph on the inside of a super tight hairpin?
@@Schaafnever been in mph
And the passenger never go on a motocycle ever again....🤣
Algorithmus Moin aus Hamburg. 😊
Algorithmus Danke aus Wien :)
You should show the motorcycles before getting on them and running the routes
I show it afterwards. I hate POV videos that don't start with POV
It depends where you live.
Ok
Does anyone have any input on which engine is better for an adventure bike?
Inline Twin or a Parallel Twin?
Not sure to go with either the Africa Twin or Tenere 700 next year.
Inline twin = parallel twin...
@@nickzour7516 Well there are differences between the two
If you mean the crossplane of the CP2, i think the Africa Twin has the same crossplane as the Tenere. Both are imitating a V2 with 90 dregrees.
The inline twins of the Ktm are imitating a 75 degree V2.
Does this answer your question?
@@toby-wanakyras4125 Well I’m mainly just wondering which one is more reliable, robust, suitable for adventure bike conditions, etc.
I'd prefer the AT for onroad and the T7 for mostly offroad. Simply because it's lighter. Their engines are very similar in character
Farla pagare 300 euro in più e darle freni degni no eh? Andare al risparmio sui freni è una cosa che mi fa andare in bestia. Anche perché se poi vuoi sistemarli in pezzi aftermarket ti partono soldoni...
Agreed!
T7’s biggest weakness is its highway ability. The engine is too weak. Most consumers need to drive at least 1-2 hours even to find gravel roads or twist like the video, meaning comfortable 1-3hours @ 80-90mph (125-140kmh) highway cruising ability is the big plus.
Indeed, this is the Achilles for most of the Mid-weight, and most people eventually choose GS1250 or similar. In reality, 90%+ consumers don’t touch offroad but pick ADV bikes as an alternative to conventional touring bikes. I know there’s Tracer, but I still hope Yamaha makes T9 for 85:15 or 90:10 Onroad/Offroad bikes, competing against somewhere between Suzuki 800 and S1000gx.
I did about 500kms of motorway on that trip. It works very well on those
Is your girlfriend single?
Haha, not funny.
Currently yes since she's travelling south east Asia. But you have to be quick because I'll follow her mid-December ;)
Hab mir letzte Woche 1:1 das gleiche geholt mit 2 Koffern 😍
Sehr cool!