Best Dust Extractors - Head-2-Head Testing

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  • For more in-depth details, graphs and photos, you need to read the article here: www.toolboxbuzz...
    In our latest Head-to-Head tool testing we evaluated eight of the industries top Dust Collectors in the 8 to 12 gallon capacity size. The lineup includes dust extractors from: Bosch, DEWALT, Fein, Festool, Hilti, Makita, Metabo and Milwaukee. Read on to find out who makes the Best Dust Extractors!
    Dust Extractor Lineup
    The eight dust extractors used in this Head-to-Head evaluation are listed below. A link to each is included with specific manufacturer specifications.
    Bosch VAC090A 9 Gallon Dust Extractor with Automatic Filter Clean
    DEWALT DWV012 10 Gallon Wet/Dry HEPA/RRP Dust Extractor
    Fein 69908195402, Fein Turbo II X AC 9.3 Gallon Wet/Dry Dust Extractor
    Festool 584014 9.5 Gallon Dust Extractor CT 36 E AC
    Hilti VC 150-10 XE 10 Gallon Universal Wet & Dry Vacuum Cleaner with Automatic Filter Cleaning
    Makita VC4710 12 Gallon Xtract Vac® Wet/Dry Dust Extractor/Vacuum
    Metabo ASR 35 ACP HEPA (US602057800) 9 Gallon All-purpose Vacuum Cleaner
    Milwaukee 8960-20 8 Gallon Dust Extractor
    Dust Extractor Testing / Evaluation
    For the Dust Extractor Head-to-Head we evaluated the tools in the following categories:
    Air Volume (CFM) Test - Tests the Air Flow volume of the unit in Cubic Feet per Minute. This test was conducted twice, once with a clean set of filters/fleece bag and once with the dirty filters/fleece bag.
    Suction (Water Column) Test - This provides a relative measure of the motors suction power. We also tested suction with a meter to compare the results to the water column test. This test was conducted twice, once with a clean set of filters/fleece bag and once with the dirty filters/fleece bag.
    Airwatts - Calculated standard measurement used in the vacuum industry. Best indicator of the overall relative power and efficiency of the units because it takes into consideration both the water column and the CFM factors. Airwatts was calculated for both the clean and dirty filters/fleece bag.
    Noise - Decibel measurements including the average and maximum value under high load.
    Cost - Current costs available online.
    Ergonomics and Features - We ranked each vacuum in categories including: Canister handles, wheels, locking caster feature, accessory attachment, hose attachment to vac, ease of controls, auto-clean switch, power broker switch, maneuverability, hose storage, cord storage, cord length, hose features, ease of filter change, mess changing filters without fleece bag, compactness, and weight.
    All of these tests and evaluations were performed by our Tool Box Buzz Team of contractors. Each of the guys on the team is a contractor, a PRO, a guy that actually uses tools every day to make a living. We know you have lots of places to get this sort of evaluation of tools, but we think ours are the best based on our vast construction experience.

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  • @norm_olsen
    @norm_olsen 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm looking for a shop vac and stumbled upon this video. Man oh man, you guys look to have done a thorough job and a half!! Knocked it out of the park so to speak! Kudos! I know this kind of research is time consuming (which probably explains why most review sites don't bother going into this much detail), so it's very refreshing to see someone go the extra mile in clarifying the absolute strengths and weaknesses of each shop vac. Because of this video along with the accompanying article, I have a much better understanding and direction as to which one I'm leaning towards. So I just want to sincerely thank you guys for going through these series of tests for us! Very much appreciated!! Keep up the excellent, unparalleled work!

  • @coolcreamykiwi
    @coolcreamykiwi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of the best tool reviews in the history of humankind

  • @theshivelyfamily
    @theshivelyfamily 6 ปีที่แล้ว +402

    This is one of your best reviews ever. I can't imagine the amount of time it took to produce. Please keep up the great work.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      DaytonFamilyofFour thx - this one took a month to produce

    • @shiweicai4872
      @shiweicai4872 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    • @visserswp
      @visserswp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Holy hell, a month? That is thorough

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thx

    • @frankdrebin8848
      @frankdrebin8848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConcordCarpenter And every minuted it was worth it!

  • @claudemaximus9409
    @claudemaximus9409 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    35 years on the job , love your show , I don’t purchase tools without watching the show now Thank.

  • @kevinchamberlain7928
    @kevinchamberlain7928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    Dust, rule 1: THE MORE YOU BREATHE IN, THE LESS GETS IN YOUR EYES.

    • @abdulhameedkhalid3555
      @abdulhameedkhalid3555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello. Iam abdul hameed from Iraq i want buy which one is best

    • @mochissin84m84
      @mochissin84m84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      😂

    • @kashmoni1085
      @kashmoni1085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The more you talk, the more shit I smell

    • @kevinchamberlain7928
      @kevinchamberlain7928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kashmoni1085 close your mouth, the smell of shit is now contained. You're welcome.

    • @midnightsun2483
      @midnightsun2483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mochissin84m84 😂😂😂😂

  • @drewhennek3717
    @drewhennek3717 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 year old video yet still more relevant than any current DIY review. Many thanks.

  • @degrom542
    @degrom542 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Five year old review and still the best and most informative video on shop vac's on you tube .

    • @cuebj
      @cuebj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Six years on and still true. Watched it first time nearly 5 years ago. There are some helpful reviews out there but this still holds up, at least regards brands and their more recent versions of the products tested here. Tbf, I recently watched some Bosch product information videos about their H-class extractors: I found them very helpful to make me think deeply about the whole process including removal and disposal of the bags and keeping the machine completely clean. I don't need H-class but I do need M-class and I want the best and I want to keep it that way

  • @vincentkeyes3304
    @vincentkeyes3304 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. We need honest, thoughtful reviews that put the needs of the end user first. Probably the best tool comparison I have ever seen, heard or read. Unbiased and thoroughly thorough!!
    Again sincere appreciation for your efforts.

  • @dfvg5t
    @dfvg5t 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I replaced a Ridged shop vac with a Festool CT36. I have been wondering if all of that cost really bought me a better vac. Your tests were well thought out and beautifully done and appeared to be unbiased (except for that little chuckle on the DeWalt). I'm now glad I took the plunge with the Festool. Many thanks for your work here.

    • @wallacelux
      @wallacelux 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi ! , im struggling to decide between which vac dust ext. for mitre saws concrete sheet cutting with p,unge saws, and plastering sanders.. why ru so happy with the c t 36 ?? no regrets even with price etc ?? thanks ;) .... nic

  • @jazscat1
    @jazscat1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another outstanding comparsion and analysis. 40 years in new high-end construction; last 18 in exclusively interior finish. Still have my Festool CT36 vac from 2001. Used with Powermatic contractor table saw, Dewalt comp'd miter, and numerous Festool sanders, jigsaws, planers. Festool has set the bar high but Hilti & Makita ARE impressive now.
    I always feel higher quality WITH greater reliability is a winning formula and justifies higher initial cost, for professionals.
    Thanks for being the best at what you do, Rob.

  • @kenmoon5685
    @kenmoon5685 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    JOB WELL DONE! In my opinion, you guys probably perform the most comprehensive testing of any non-manufacturing group! I wouldn't be surprised if the manufactures' Q&A departments aren't tuned in to your reviews. I look forward to each new review you do-Ken

  • @duperdude25
    @duperdude25 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review. After watching the review, I noticed that all these have one flaw in common. You have your dust collector and you also have your dust extractor like these for small tools. I bought a Kirby vacuum cleaner motor head which has a impeller that is separated from the motor. The motor has a separate assembly to get cooled. The impeller sucks the dust and within few inches exhausts it to a bag via 3 inch pipe. I removed the bag and connected it to my large shop three stage dust extractor with cyclonic action. This way I have one place for all the dust from the small and large tools, none of the filter expense, takes very little space and it’s in-line install setup for under 100 bucks. Awesome review, love watching all of your comprehensive and detail reviews. Thank you.

  • @NorthernMNWRD
    @NorthernMNWRD 6 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Excellent comprehensive in-depth testing. What a service to give us all access to this information. I don't know how much time of effort was involved but it clearly was substantial. For those in the construction trades or even us hobby woodworkers this kind of review saves hours of research. Thank you.

  • @lesliecrowell1205
    @lesliecrowell1205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great video! Sure saved me hours of research. I’m a “Harriet homeowner” and I refurbish furniture. I do a lot of sanding. Very helpful to see all the criteria compared. This was great! Thank you, thank you!!

  • @Ranger42
    @Ranger42 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow! I've waiting for a thorough review of the top shop vacs for years. Nobody, including all the popular woodworking magazines, has ever done such a detailed review, including so many vacs. I purchased the Makita last year, even though I really wanted the Festool, which was over my budget, and was concerned because I was more money than I've ever spent on a vacuum. It looks like I was fortunate and made the right choice. Thank you and keep'm coming.

  • @hotsaws101
    @hotsaws101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank all of you for the time, input, and unbiased testing/review.
    Clarity!

  • @EGGINFOOLS
    @EGGINFOOLS 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Awesome reviews here is why I subbed. Well spoken, energetic, thorough and I never see a hint of bias on any review. One thing I would have loved to have seen was the actual testing. Call me a nerd but you built that water column and damnit i wanted to see you testing with it.

    • @sneheshshr
      @sneheshshr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agreed!!! There should be a long version with extra actual testing footage. I could watch this for hours!

    • @sammygee7125
      @sammygee7125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed! This is the first video I have seen from these guys, and they implement the scientific method so effectively that I can't believe these aren't a bunch of MIT grads. Brilliant work by these fellows which I will continue to follow out of respect for their process of eliminating bias from their review process!

  • @bluediamondbill
    @bluediamondbill ปีที่แล้ว

    What a thorough review! Well done. Some quite surprising results. Pricing has changed on most, if not all, of these vacs since this review. The most valuable component of your review was definitely the dirty filter testing and the fact that your testing was measured at the hose end. Thanks for your intense effort.

  • @davidbundesen5867
    @davidbundesen5867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great review. Very scientific and detailed. You guys put so much time and effort into these. I love your pro perspective. I was a contractor for many years and left the trades in 95. I’m amazed at how far tool design has come in the last twenty five years. Well done sir.

  • @stevevonrock2416
    @stevevonrock2416 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i needed this video glad i stumbled upon it. i own a dewalt that is three years old, dewalt stopped making bags for it so i am pretty much fkd out of that $400 investment and now need to buy replacement and refuse to let dewalt pull that bullshit again, i even called them and they were of zero help , so me and thousands of contractors get the pleasure of buying this tool again. i will check into the hilti, on a crazy side note i am a drywall contracror so you picked the right material for my interest. thank you so much for doing my homework for me. thank you

  • @siegfried9999
    @siegfried9999 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I like hot the festool and bosch integrates with their case system...

  • @RobDyerdotcom
    @RobDyerdotcom 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is yet another great tool review. It's a thorough review of an expensive tool that I need. I know it took a lot of time to do this review and thanks for the help. 20 mins of this saved me several hours of research, spared me the need of watching 15 other videos, and ultimately saved me some money. Great job to you and your team.

  • @scottgrimm6455
    @scottgrimm6455 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Thanks for setting up and performing the test, because of this I bought the Makita vac. I'll let you know how it performs.

  • @garrettsmith7190
    @garrettsmith7190 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not in the industry and I don't have a stake in these results - but boy you guys did a fantastic job on this. I echo the sentiments of so many other comments - this is among the best reviews I've seen and I'm sure will every see! Thanks for pride-in-craftsmanship - it's inspiring!

  • @coppulor6500
    @coppulor6500 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Curious how the new 3M extractor compares

  • @PaulJacksonOttawa
    @PaulJacksonOttawa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank very much for making this video. I will 100% listen to your advice and appreciate that you guys are all in the trades and walk the walk and not just talk the talk. Thanks again for sharing and please keep the videos coming.

  • @davecline4966
    @davecline4966 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    All I an say is thank you for the massive amount of work you guys did for this review !! A really straightforward and apples to apples comparison. I hope you realize how helpful these types of reviews are to the average worker who wants and needs accurate information like this. Keep up the great reviews !!

  • @sammygee7125
    @sammygee7125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have the best face I ever saw. So incredibly expressive! I can see what you are saying even with the sound off. You should be in movies, dude. You could definitely do well in commercial work. Also great review and thank you so much for helping me come to a decision for my shop! I really appreciate the ways in which you scientifically validate and explain those validation methods to the viewer. This video would be a great example of the scientific method for middle and high school science students. Really great job establishing and proving your impartiality, explaining the experimentation methods, and the values used to determine the outcomes. Just all around a wonderful, intelligent, and well-produced video. Your clear explanation and demonstrations provide a clear method of recreating this experiment to test its validity. You are all doing a great job here. I am now a subscriber for life. Thank you for giving me so much confidence in your objective review process!

  • @Sly_Wolf_1
    @Sly_Wolf_1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great comparison video! Rob you mentioned that other people do tool tests, yes that is true but there are no better comparisons than those by you and your team. Thanks for all the work you guys put into these comparisons and filming, another brilliant and informative video guiding me and probably others onto the right power tool and accessory path 👍🏻.

  • @fernando2014
    @fernando2014 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your tests and methodology are outstanding. As a mechanical/process engineer I thoroughly enjoyed your scoring matrix and graphical representations. Aside from the aesthetic factor is seems that the Makita is the best $ value. I however have a Festool CT26 and I am glad I do! One feature I can no longer live without is the ability to TURN ON MY VAC FROM THE HOSE END! Yes, that's right, I can turn it on and off from a bluetooth button on the hose end and with my back issues it's a life/back saver! No more bending over at an awkward height or leaning to turn it on when I want to suck without a tool!

  • @Alpha-to9od
    @Alpha-to9od 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Really nice review by the way. By far the best tool channel.

  • @robertwaid6988
    @robertwaid6988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding equipment review ---your testing protocol and scientific methodology is second to none.

  • @TheLinkMedic
    @TheLinkMedic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Man the Makita for that price is mega impressive, i'm a flooring guy and been using a good Ridgid shopvac with a good filter been looking into something more legit.

    • @thecloneguyz
      @thecloneguyz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been buying Ridgid vacuums from the pawn shop for $40 for the past 5 years
      Cant beat them

    • @steijnvanvliet9896
      @steijnvanvliet9896 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aaron Kay do not buy a Festool

    • @jeremytinajero3866
      @jeremytinajero3866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm a flooring contractor also, and use the festoon ct 36 E on every tool I got besides my big machine and gotta say its legit man

  • @samhayden3204
    @samhayden3204 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This review is fantastic! Glad to see scientific writing making inroads to TH-cam: Introduction, methods, results, discussion. An enormous amount of work but you have provided fantastic data and I couldn't even wait till the end of the vid to sub. Thank you!

  • @tampamotorbikes2855
    @tampamotorbikes2855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    BRO - YOU LITERALLY SAVED ME 20 HOURS RESEARCHING THIS.....
    I feel like I owe you money ..... #LawOfReciprocity

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can pay me back by subscribing and hitting the notification bell

  • @paulhafner3234
    @paulhafner3234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review guys, being in the industry for 30 years I so value a good shop vac you made my new purchase very easy. Thanks I will keep watching your videos.

  • @zapbrannigan9770
    @zapbrannigan9770 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I own 2 Festool extractors. A midi and a ctl 26.In the UK health and safety are all over dust control and when adding in cost Festool comes in cheapest when you consider you can get reusable long life filter bags. The makita will hit you up for £20 for 5 filter bags were as I haven’t paid for a Festool filter bag since owning these extractors. Add into the fact that the hose and lead wrap up inside the units themselves and you have ball ache free storage! Good review as always!

    • @kiwibird8441
      @kiwibird8441 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      zap brannigan love your comment, im kinda surprised festool came in 3rd. when my vac dies I'm going for the festool

    • @zapbrannigan9770
      @zapbrannigan9770 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kiwi Bird mate it’s expensive up front but by far cheaper given the cost of filter bags over the life of the unit! Plus the new extractors are coming with blue tooth to work with battery tools.

    • @risby2
      @risby2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      zap brannigan, I bought the festool 48 thinking bigger was better, but when the bag gets over half full, it becomes too heavy to lift expecially stairs

    • @Ispike73
      @Ispike73 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      $250 for the longlife filter bag. $50 for a five pack of disposable bags. No thanks. The price of their tools don't bother me, but the price of their accessories piss me off to no end.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ispike
      Just as important when choosing a vac is how it works with the rest of your tools. How flexible it is to use and the quality.
      Other brands match it for quality in terms of performance but not in terms of how it works in the real world with tools.
      Festool allows you have a tools startup system so when you for example start your router the vac system will start up as well. There are many reasons why festool is amazing for professionals. They are expensive but so were old Mercedes cars back in the day that would do 500,000 miles and still perform like a champ.

  • @jamesbell8861
    @jamesbell8861 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate the time and effort that went into this comparison. Thanks. Time well spent watching this and some surprises. Learned a few things and reinforced a few other suppositions.

  • @HolisticHealthEducation
    @HolisticHealthEducation 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maybe I missed something. Did you test the filter efficiency? Meaning, how clean was the air leaving the machine? Especially the small particles?
    Thank you for a insightful review!

  • @MaydaysCustomWoodworks
    @MaydaysCustomWoodworks 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow lol. Incredible review. I consider myself a smart and thorough guy but this review contest was beyond me. Awesome to see. I keep getting more and more reason to go with Makita for the rest of my life. I just bought the Makita cordless track saw over the Festool and Mafell automatic track saw. At nearly half the price of Festool with the same accuracy, and just slightly less dust control and ergonomics... its hard to beat. Seems like all their tools fit the same bill. Fantastic video. Thanks!

  • @WideAwakeHuman
    @WideAwakeHuman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can feel my blood pressure going up this guy is so keyed up... But really good video.. thanks!

  • @mikebirky5769
    @mikebirky5769 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was searching for dust extraction system for my coffee packaging system. Very impressed with details, looking at printed report. Excellent work.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike Birky Thank you, please consider subscribing

  • @bretts4343
    @bretts4343 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    4 years later, it would be great to see an updated review. The Makita, the top of the reasonably priced ones, isn't even available any more.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      soon

    • @joshwalsh6194
      @joshwalsh6194 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ConcordCarpenterhow soon? my Makita just stopped working, it had a hard life though hahaha

    • @novaneo
      @novaneo ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@ConcordCarpenter
      I have been using the vc-150-6 for 5 years we got 3 on the jobsite,and to help them stay in good condition since we fill a bag a day, we coupled them a year ago with Oneida cyclone bucket and now it's a bag every 1-2 week, because small particule fills bags ports, Wich saved considerably our budget but we did saw a decrease in performance with the 3 year running on bag only, but no decrease on the year with cyclone.

  • @nashaconstructionllc2346
    @nashaconstructionllc2346 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good stuff man! Thanks for putting so much effort into a review with actual data instead of just relying on opinion.

  • @greggreavett7913
    @greggreavett7913 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    From this review I invested in Festool,no regrets whatsoever.Thanks for posting.

  • @buzzsaw301
    @buzzsaw301 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    you guys really did your homework on this one, great job. I always appreciate the unbiased reviews from you guys. I'm 100% a milwaukee guy, I own other stuff also but this is sometimes what I need to hear so I get out of the one brand mindset.

  • @hansdegroot8549
    @hansdegroot8549 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I watched the whole video now. and I gave it a thumbs up. Without having read the article yet (I'll do that in a moment. At least I start, do not know how long it is) is the winner for me
    by far Makita. It "gained" 13 of its points in the last two judgements. Of course ergonomics are important and the quickness and easiness of filter changing, too.
    I must read the article how that has been judged and measured.
    Costs are important and the noise a machines produces you hear every moment that it is turned on.

  • @kellymike2741
    @kellymike2741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You’ve just earned yourself a new subscriber. That test was awesome.

  • @tu69auka
    @tu69auka ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This test needs to be redone today with modern vacuums like Hilti VC 40 MX

  • @thomascollins72
    @thomascollins72 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic tool reviews from these guys. They evaluate the features that matter and give me the information I need to make the best choice for me. Thank you.

  • @fatherfirefighter7751
    @fatherfirefighter7751 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    10:05 you're welcome

    • @OldishGoalie
      @OldishGoalie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not all heroes wear capes

    • @Willis476
      @Willis476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank u!

    • @Willis476
      @Willis476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank u!

  • @donmartin507
    @donmartin507 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You created your own Mass Airflow Sensor! Used on fuel injected vehicles. Smart.

  • @tjbier
    @tjbier 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Testing vacuums... Guess what?!? They all suck!😂 Sorry, had to. Bought a CT22 in 09 and still love it. Great review

  • @chiliboom6140
    @chiliboom6140 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was an amazing review. Thank you for taking the time to do this. It would be awesome if you guys did one of these every few years as new models come out.

  • @matthewrud4550
    @matthewrud4550 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Three points: 1- The clean filter numbers are almost pointless. The machines will be run dirty 90% of the time. Outside of the top three the drop offs are so severe there functionality are compromised.
    2- For every 3 decibels noise levels double. So the second place milwaukee is twice as loud as the makita.
    3- Biggest disappointment has to be the Fein. They basically created this category and to test so poorly with a new model is unfortunate.
    Bonus- The tippy Makita can be a pain in the backside. Add 10/20 lbs of flat weights in the bottom of the canister (using fleece bags) to stabilize it. Not an option if lugging around the job but works if being used at a sanding/cutting station.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      matthew rud45 the clean filter test is a baseline - benchmark. Good news is Makita will be redesigning their body to a shorter more stable footprint

    • @cardlock
      @cardlock 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great point about the 90% run dirty time. The run clean should not even be a factor. But its only a sentence later and I am changing that already. Here is where it can be important. If you are doing woodwork with large chips and you use a cyclone device to catch 99% of the stuff before it hits the bag then you can run for a year without ever needing to replace the bag. For those guys, the clean test should be in the test. But it should be weighted where it counts one-tenth of the dirty test in determining the overall score.

    • @RAREFORMDESIGNS
      @RAREFORMDESIGNS 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      10 db is twice as loud.

    • @RFC3514
      @RFC3514 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      > Outside of the top three the drop offs are so severe there functionality are compromised.
      The Metabo dropped less than the Hilti. Also, "their".

    • @ddsupplyco
      @ddsupplyco 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      RAREFORMDESIGNS decibels are logarithmic which means every 10 means 10x not 2x

  • @Ishkabubbles
    @Ishkabubbles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was absolutely everything I wanted to know. Thank you so much!

  • @duanehurley2105
    @duanehurley2105 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    One reason why we use and own (5) Festool dust extractors is the tool integration. Everything stacks and rolls. Time saved on the job site.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But it is still too expense bla bla bla bla.

    • @sparx2391
      @sparx2391 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got the Bosch and the L box's stack on top and click in place

    • @closetmonsterjesse
      @closetmonsterjesse 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sparx2391 I've got a box of rocks.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Duane Hurley great point!

    • @danhalski
      @danhalski 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      bighands69 for You bla bla bla bla

  • @9jep
    @9jep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Robert, I just finished my review of best "TOOL REVIEWERS" and am pleased to inform you that you and your crew came in FIRST PLACE. There wasn't even a close 2nd. place finisher so I'm not going to bother you with the overall results. Thanks,,,,,,, Keep up the good work.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you posting that somewhere?

    • @9jep
      @9jep 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Opps, typo...... "was" should of been wasn't. I corrected it in edit. By the way, I realize this is an older review but it holds for your more recent work.

  • @traviswhite5167
    @traviswhite5167 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Makita, Bosch, Fein, Milwaukee, and Hilti are all made by Nilfisk and are a slight twist of the Alto series. Nilfisk makes a top quality product!

    • @andreiotraskin475
      @andreiotraskin475 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yay!!! And all of them use Ametec Lamb 3 stage motors hahahaha. Where is Pullman Holt for comparison?

    • @andreiotraskin475
      @andreiotraskin475 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And where is Nilfisk itself?

  • @samirtouma47
    @samirtouma47 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was an excellent top of the heap effort at bringing the best dust extractor to me. I am very impressed. Great work.

  • @ZOMBIESCAPCOM1
    @ZOMBIESCAPCOM1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video & excellent job ..
    I been waiting 4 this video ...
    Thank You..👍😎

  • @shannonjohnston4340
    @shannonjohnston4340 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have all 3 of his top picks and the dewalt vac as well. Hilti, Makita, Festool and Dewalt. Hilti makes a good vac for sure it performs great. Warranty is also awesome. The Makita vac is not anywhere close to the Hilti or the festool in anyway shape or form. My dewalt is a much better vac all around than the makita. I take care of my tools and that means I clean my filters as recommended. After a year of using in commercial construction I would say out of the 4 vacs I have the Festool as my pick hands down. Never had any problems and is always strong. It will hold a electric drywall Sanders to the ceiling due to its suction power. My second pick would be the Hilti vac followed by my dewalt vac. The dewalt vac is a great deal for the money and I plan to buy more as me and my guys need them. I will purchase Festool again as well. It’s is the best vac on the market, you will pay a premium price because it’s a premium product. After all in most cases you get what you pay for.

  • @kjmcky1able
    @kjmcky1able 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Let's be REAL Rob! The Makita is a top heavy tip-tastic POS, make sure when you're using it that you don't drag it behind you and run over anything larger than a framing nail (including an extension cord or even its own cord). Why wouldn't you guys not have added additional bonus points for Festool and Bosch for modular tool storage on vac? You and I both know you can't beat a Systainer or L-Boxx to get the tool you're going to hook up to the dust extractor to do your job. Also ideal is having the ability to store it efficiently, unless your viewers like using one hand for the tool one hand for the dust extractor or precariously balancing it on top??? In the REAL WORLD it's Bosch & Festool all day, everyday (unless you're running a huge core bit then it's Hilti all by itself)!

    • @jonathanhuman5822
      @jonathanhuman5822 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is very true. The Makita is a stellar vac, but if it can't be rolled around by tugging on the cord, then then what's the point? This is still a great comparison video. Always great Rob, and the CC crew.

    • @williamsmith9026
      @williamsmith9026 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like somebody has tipped a makita once or twice..
      How do they end up putting something like that out is beyond me at this point.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kelly - we did. We marked the Makita the lower on ergonomics for that top-heavy design, and marked other vacs with modular storage like Festool, Fein, etc, the highest if they offered those systems. BTW - Makita is currently redesigning the size to mirror the other unit shapes - TBA soon

    • @dondonaldson1684
      @dondonaldson1684 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The other good point about the festool is how the hose is stored, it is superb as you still have access to the carrying handle. The hose is high quality and antistatic, plus you can get a hose and power cord integrated into one, very handy. An important feature is an air volume control. Festool shines here when used with their sanders. Sometimes you DON'T want max air as it sucks the sander down too much. The power cord is stout on the Hilti and Festool as is the storage for both. With the flat top and systainer integration along with the points above, this makes Festool the leader in dust extraction.

  • @karlanieves70
    @karlanieves70 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this video. i am shopping for dust control and stumbled upon your video. With the amount of testing you performed, I am ready to buy! Thank you!!

  • @andyarnold6763
    @andyarnold6763 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic review full of great details, thank you

  • @oscarmolina2024
    @oscarmolina2024 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are my go to when researching tools. Thank you!

  • @budstillman3335
    @budstillman3335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most accurate tests ever. Love to see you add the Mirka dust extractor since I'm considering buying Mirka.

  • @plkthebest
    @plkthebest 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta say, I appreciate how professionally you guys do these videos.

  • @RobDyerdotcom
    @RobDyerdotcom 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is yet another great tool review. It's a thorough review of an expensive tool that I need. I know it took a lot of time to do this review and thanks for your efforts. 20 mins of this saved me several hours of research, spared me the need of watching 15 other videos, and ultimately saved me some money. Great job to you and your team.

  • @TheGrainSideUp
    @TheGrainSideUp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another great and informative video. I have purchased two tools recently based on your recommendations and haven't been disappointed. I wish I would have had this video before purchasing my last dust collector or I wouldn't be looking at it now with future purchase. Thanks guys!

  • @eastcoast.30cal28
    @eastcoast.30cal28 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Been watching a lot of your videos. You guys get right into the science aspect of these tools! Awesome job!!

  • @DanielFlores-os9fr
    @DanielFlores-os9fr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot for this review. I plan to use a room of my house as my workshop. Noise is a huge matter for me and healthy as well. There are other options that says 50% less noise or similar wordings. But not all of them has a DBS measurement. Thanks a lot for your video and your comments

    • @DanielFlores-os9fr
      @DanielFlores-os9fr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry I forgot to mention, I used to be contractor and I always keep looking for the best tools. Unfortunately, the cheapest vacuum in this review cost more than my table saw. Maybe I need to keep looking for something for hobbies and partial job than a professional equipment. Any suggestions? Just in case somebody else like me needs to look for a cheaper option? Thanks in again for all your information. It was really helpful.

  • @scottcurtis1887
    @scottcurtis1887 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I watch all of your vids cuz I trust the content. The way you try to be as objective and thorough with your head to head tests is the only way to get good info.
    I buy and use tools every day. I need/want/enjoy quality tools cuz I know that most times they will make me money. The info that I get from your vids helps me to make a well informed decision or to confirm a decision already made.
    Thanks for the effort, the excellent content and please....keep em coming.
    Scott
    Curtis Custom Carpentry
    Mt. Wolf, PA

  • @colinfarrier3668
    @colinfarrier3668 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Concord, I use a shop made thien baffle to drop all the dust and chips out before the bag on my Festool CT. It reduces the consumption of filter bags and with a window in the box I can see when the baffle needs to be emptied. I accept that the baffle reduces the suction at the tool end of the hose. The baffle box is 12 inches cube and so is carried on a trolley with the festool extractor in my shop. Colin in Northern Ireland

  • @littletree343
    @littletree343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At this point I’m not here cause I wanna buy something, I just like watching them

  • @tonygarcia9596
    @tonygarcia9596 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your revirw. I had A Hilti representative come by my job reviewing the Hilton dust extractor with its knockout feature and I was intrigued. However I am a milwaukee, dewalt tool addict when preferencing my tool purchase. But I must say you did clarify as to why I will consider the Hilti brand.

  • @KallenSC
    @KallenSC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    No..you tested: Starmix, Karcher, NIlfisk and Festool;)

    • @funkeybikemonkey
      @funkeybikemonkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now this is a really good comment! It just shows how much bullshit goes with the industry. You could pay 2x as much for the mafell and just get the exact same cleaner. Now. Where's the cheapest best not known name as the known brands. Let's save ourselves a few hundred quid,

    • @hornetIIkite3
      @hornetIIkite3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nilfisk is shit. I can't believe people still buy that clown brand

  • @edwardhorn6621
    @edwardhorn6621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding review! I hope you continue to do these kinds of evaluations on various tools. This is the best set of objective, relevant tests I have seen on any class of tools. And vacuum cleaners were a very important class to evaluate as you did.

  • @fazer12779
    @fazer12779 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Makita will be the best seller, as you can just buy a new one if it breaks in 2 years as it’s half the price of the hilti anyway.

    • @jeremys5904
      @jeremys5904 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like it might just break...reviews on amazon

  • @BradKane1
    @BradKane1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice Job Rob, well spoken and comprehensive test.
    Looks like Makita is a great value for ROI out in the field

  • @MrSupertramp76
    @MrSupertramp76 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very informative review rob good job to you and your guys! Loved the water jig by the way

  • @jessesilver
    @jessesilver 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EXCELLENT, thorough actual comparison. Thank you!

  • @wiedapp
    @wiedapp 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Makita's machine unit does look exceptionally similar to the several Nilfisk Alto we have at work...(Germany)

    • @wiedapp
      @wiedapp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alex Zonin Thank you, good to know!
      I already thought something like that, but to know for sure makes it better.

    • @ITubeTooInc
      @ITubeTooInc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Makita VC4710 is just rebranded Nilfisk-ALTO Attix 50 and the Milwaukee 8960-20 is also just a rebranded Nilfisk-ALTO Attix 33.

    • @stevec7435
      @stevec7435 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      My brother has the nilfisk alto and it is unstoppable!. We connect it to a makita orbital sander for painting prep and it works well 👍🏻

    • @linwizz2126
      @linwizz2126 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was gonna ask why no alto

  • @marcusloricchiella8579
    @marcusloricchiella8579 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another exceptional review Rob. Very thorough and concise.

  • @robertturner4225
    @robertturner4225 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    thank you sirs for an excellent review. so it's the festool or the Makita for me then.

  • @scottyV1000
    @scottyV1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great scientific review. I had my mind pretty much made up on a Festool model so it's good to know that they are actually near the top and not just hype.

  • @TheF0rtress
    @TheF0rtress 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Best review!

  • @Dan-qk4ns
    @Dan-qk4ns 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review. I also think its very important to cover warranties/build quality! Way to go. Ive always owned festool extractors and my buddy gave me his dewalt shown here. I had it for 5 months and the motor went! Called dewalt and it was outta warranty, so......it just reaffirmed my thinking.

  • @mjmason75
    @mjmason75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review. I wish you had included the Mirka dust extracting vacuum as well. Thanks.

  • @aperry712
    @aperry712 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a very well test and video! The decibel levels are the most important on any tools

  • @am11744
    @am11744 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliant , I like this test very much and i think read somewhere that there is silica in mdf too. All the more reason for carpenters to have good extraction units.

  • @davidlennox3574
    @davidlennox3574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great and thorough review. Since the Makita has been replaced with the VC4210L, have you considered a review of it?

  • @randyhansen8460
    @randyhansen8460 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great job, it is nice to see the quality of your test, as an engineer data and facts are important, your results had quality data.

  • @ericlambe3866
    @ericlambe3866 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. No need to research any further. Buying a Festool!

  • @Danjuly71
    @Danjuly71 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great head to head guys - very informative, and your results absolutely affect my purchasing decision. Thanks

  • @philipmark3343
    @philipmark3343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great no-BS video. Thank you.

  • @corsakias
    @corsakias 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Makita i think has the same like nikfisk vacuum system...

  • @bnwww
    @bnwww 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best head-to-head tool reviews I have seen. Thank you! I was already subscribed, but now I've hit the bell.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brad What does hit the bell mean

    • @bnwww
      @bnwww 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConcordCarpenter the notification bell next to the "Subscribe" button. It means I will be notified when you upload new videos.

  • @jeremys5904
    @jeremys5904 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would probably go for the Festerstool. I have 2 of the old Fein Turbo 2s and honestly never thought about another vacuum they have worked so good for me.

  • @dweidemann
    @dweidemann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aside from the usual excellent head-to-heads and props for the level of detail not only in your videos, but even crazier level of detail on your site, I wanted to thank you for doing this.
    While I have a cordless platform I stick to for ease of use and economy (M18), with corded extractors I can toss platform out the window. I'm solely relying on the results and pricing rather than the brand/compatibility on something that plugs in, which is one reason this information is so valuable.
    Question: Are these considered something adequate for centrally extracting in a small hobby workshop, or are they for connecting to a single tool/table? I ask because you have several dust extractors in your workshop tour that seem to be a totally different style, so I get the feeling that there is a difference. However, not having any extraction as of yet, it's an important consideration before investing in something.