Dolby Vision (G3) vs HDR 10 (S90C) Comparison | Does Your TV Need This?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- I compared two TVs that I can both highly recommend to see how if Dolby Vision actually matters more than the TVs actual picture quality differences and I was kind of surprised by what I found, there is also an important setting on Samsung TVs that you should consider changing which I tell you about. This comparison is done using a 2023 LG G3 OLED in Dolby Cinema mode and 2023 Samsung S90C QD-OLED in filmmaker mode. I didn't touch on DV gaming because that mode is never done right but thats a whole different topic for another video.
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If this video felt confusing or misleading in anyway my apologies that wasn’t my intention. The video is really just going to show you how the out of the box difference is for color on the S90C vs G3 and you have to understand it’s going to be similar if it were outside of DV to a certain degree. So it might be best to think of this an out of the box S90C vs G3 comparison. Why? DV will look mostly the same, except a few hardly noticeable differences mainly because of how the mode is setup in regards to the TV. I don’t think you necessarily need to factor DV into your TV choice just pick the TV that you believe has the better picture quality at the end of the day.
Samsung TVs have that color space issue out of the box which leads to color posterization and some really washed out looking colors and in a way I suppose that is more of an issue IMO than not having DV.
I understood what you were conveying, although I do question the idea of using BT.2020 on Samsung. What you are seeing on the G3 when it comes to color, is based on trim work , that is specific to DV. Where a colorist can tweak that young ladies shirt, using DV 4.0 specific tweaks.
It just leads to some colors appearing a little too oversaturated. In the end it's preference that matters, creators intent for the most remains intact.
Quick question on the LG, can you choose HDR10 in Netflix or is it always Dolby Vision? Having a choice is the best of both worlds although I suspect you'd have to know where to make the change in the settings and remember to bring it back.
Also, how much better is the S90C with Custom BT2020? It would have been nice to do a comparison of that (flipping between DCI/P3 and BT2020).
@@techsamurai11 Only with a streaming device like Apple TV 4K, most DV enabled displays will default to DV if your using the TV installed apps.
@@TheCrucialQYeah, I noticed that Apple TV allows you to specify what content it can display - I think all apps should do that.
@@techsamurai11 It is actually on the display manufacturer to provide that option. It's either use 11.5 bit Dolby Vision or 10 bit HDR10. Sony Bluray players have a Dolby Vision on/off switch in the player menu, so it's doable on the hardware side.
The issue is that Dolby Vision isn't a straight up better quality image then regular HDR10, this differs a lot with what type of content you are watching, but showing a HDR10 vs DV movie next to each other would probably make you have to look twice to see the differences in things like color vibrancy and contrast.
That said, the S90C in 65 inch is 1900 euro right now and the G3 2999 euro. I don't think the 1000 euro is worth it for a format that isn't defacto always the better picture.
If you really think that you're paying +1000 euro just because of the DV thing and not any other features on the TV, then you're a bit lost.
Aside of this, there's no TV in the market atm that can really take advantage of DV and what it can offers.
Hey KG hope your well, I wanted to get a S90C or LG G3 for PC use. I dont use game/PC mode as I like the procesing and motion in the normal modes. Which tv shold i choose. Thanks
I think it is very difficult to compare dolby vision and hdr10 on two different tvs. I have the Panasonic UB820 blu ray player, on there you can enable and disable dolby vision and hdr10. That would be the best way to test it on the same tv and then put the seperate footage side by side.
That would be useful if people wanted to disable DV on a DV capable TV, which would be its own video. Really only something I’d recommend if the DV mode on that TV wasn’t good because when done right DV is great take the A95K for example I’d never turn off DV for that.
@@TechWithKG I just meant disabling it for the purpose of a direct comparison on the same tv, if I had Dolby Vision I wouldn't be disabling it! The whole point of your video was to show Dolby Vision vs "Samsung" HDR10 and not the slight differences between 2 completely different models of tv.
@@carlm189 I felt this what KG did was exactly the comparison needed that will help with buying decisions for many. That comparison does show how a show that is in Dolby Vision will look on LG vs Samsung which will naturally play it in HDR10. I dont think the idea was comparing Dolby Vision vs HDR formats on the same TV. That said, some of the comments here around using comparable modes and color space would be good.
yep, it's like trying to compare an apple to an orange.
I have an LG 65QNED996PB TV, and a Panasonic DP-UB820.
On the Bu-Ray UHD Spears & Munsil Ultra HD Benchmark 2023 disc 2, we have two Demo Material videos, one in Dolby Vision 10000 nit and the other in HDR10 in 10000 nit, I should point out that HDR 10 in 10000 does not have was obtained from the Dolby Vision 10000 nit version of Demo Material.
However, between the two versions seen one after the other, I noticed no notable difference.
I should point out, I was in VIVID image mode in both cases.
And Demo Material is much better than a Film, because in Film to make more Cinema Image, they lower the contrasts and the dynamics when capturing, they lower the Contrast and the dynamics during calibration (and what's more it's done without subtlety, it is done with a trowel), and then the Directors require us to use FilmMaker Mode which also crushes the dynamics and contrast, is added on top of the Filmmaker Mode to adjust the The image coming out of the TV box, by default it is Contrast at 80 out of 100 which further contributes to crushing the Contrast of the image, and in Cinema image mode it is the same.
Thanks for the video, I was trying to find something similar comparing the C3 w/ dolby vision to the S90C without, considering that the S90C on sale is cheaper than the C3 on sale, and you can nearly buy 2 S90C's for the price of the G3. My Guess is that S90C without dolby vision would be very close to the C3 playing dolby vision content? I like the G3 over the S90C but I was not able to justify the extra $1750 in price. Maybe I will regret that later when the screen burns in? But by then hopefully prices will have dropped significantly.
For the brightness differences in the corners, isn't the MLA tech able to boost whole screen brightness without extra effort from WLED panel? Where as the samsung can still hit a nice peak brightness but not across the whole screen without some effort?
great comparision, but why not to do it with S95C in BT2020?
Great video KG. Must say the green tint on the LG is something Ive always seen and never been keen on...but that brightness is awesome!
KG im really eager to book a seat for your QN95C review...but is it still happening buddy..as soon the A95L hype is here!
Great video!!!
Can you do a video using bt 2020. I am a S95C owner and using bt2020 in HDR mode. I think that will be a more fair comparison and very curious to the result.👍
Good idea! KG, would love if you are able to do that.
What does the bt2020 do and what is the standard?
Hey KG i really like your content ive always liked sony tvs do to their upscaling and processing i like the a80l 77 and and the a95k 65 but after watching countless hours of tv reviews i also like the g3 at 77 but is it worth the price upgrade and im not a fan of samsung tvs not big on their operating system but can you give me your thoughts on the ones i mentioned be really appreciated
do you have a comparison / tutorial on bt2020 vs default filmaker mode on s90C?
Wow, look at the green push on the G2 vs S95B comparison near the end of the video. Yet I don't recall anyone noticing or complaining about green tinting last year. Most people thought it was something to do with the introduction of MLA but perhaps not.
Umn.. I don't know what happened but the none-DV seems to have a lot stronger colours to me, at least in this video. Maybe it just has brighter colours but suffer from white pixels dilution, I dunno, all I can see is brighter and paler colours lifted shadows.
In any case though, I think QD-OLED and WRGB are just too different to be compared on the same scale when it comes to colours (due exactly to the above reason), especially when uncalibrated right out of the box. I feel like this probably should have been done on an LCD where both of LG and Samsung have similar tech, maybe an IPS mini-LED from both with one having DV and other haven't
Hey KG some TVS picture quality and processing are so good that I don't worry to much about DV. HDR 10 and 10 plus are good enough in most cases as far as the content I like to watch. I have tvs with DV and tvs without like the Samsung S95 and the content still looks good to me. I guess it just boils down to personal preference. I'm okay either way as long as I can enjoy the content I'm watching. 😊
Excellent comparison! So helpful!
It’s weird only bc you also aren’t including what the s90C in bt2020 and HDR10 looks like…when most experts are saying to use it in bt2020 and turn color down to make hdr10 look better.
I'm all for open standards and DV is not one of them. I also work in the AAA game industry and know how little emphasis there is on HDR, 99.9% of all work is done in SDR and at the end there are some post-process and lighting tweaks for HDR (with PC reference monitors not TVs).
I don't understand, does switching to BT2020 do anything if source content is DCIP3?
I ordered a 77" s90 yesterday from Costco . I noticed from your video the color and clarity was a lot better on the G3. Do you think i will be able to adjust my s90c to be to match the G3? Also what size screen did you test on the s90c. Ive heard the 77" probably has a gen 2 display where the other sizes probably have gen 1.
How have you found it?
If you like colors, overall brightness and vibrancy or play a good bit of games the QD-OLED from Samsung makes the C3 (TV in same price range) look grey and dull. The Sammy is just a better overall display also has 144hz mode- . He is comparing a Flagship display to a mid tier display- and an extended HDR format to the base entry level format its not an apples to apples comparison - that should tell you something. HDR really pops on the Samsung- especially for gaming- I read rtings findings and watching them for a few hours side by side in local stores. A lot comes down to preference but I think the S90c is the best value for your dollar. If you absolutely must have Dolby Vision- and cannot settle for HDR10+ (which is the real item to compare to DV) then go LG-
I think you`ll enjoy your new TV for years to come- and if you do not Coscto lets you return it for any reason at the 11th hour- I returned a set that was highly rated at day 84 of 90. Also they count from the day your had the TV in your house delivered not the day of purchase. HTH!
Have a good one!
I'm quite curious if setting dynamic HDR tone mapping in the S90C will make it "pseudo" DV. I know most S90C/S95C users on the forums use static tone mapping but hey....just curious
I simply don’t get why you didn’t also showed how the S90C compared changing to BT-2020…why comment but not show it…
Exactly ! Would have been appreciated... 🤔🤔
That’s a fair criticism, I really just wanted to show what it was like for most people buying the TV out of the box for both G3 and S90C/S95C potential buyers, as the majority won’t bother switching into a customized profile. Perhaps in another video down the line focused more on changing settings.
@@TechWithKG Sure, I understand most potencial buyers won't even care to switch profile, but we are not talking about making changes in the service menu, its just a setting easily accesible under a few clicks, im sure lots of folks are curious enough to search and learn a little bit of DCI-P3/BT-2020 theory if someone points them in the right direction.
Damn! I thought he just got the Pics Online,I didn’t know he had an Option to show us the difference with BT2020
This is the comparison I was waiting for! Yes!! Thanks! :) :)
on th left-hdr or sdr at s90c?
Please advise in going from a Sony 75x90j to an Oled, before I decide can you tell me if there is still a problem withABL on Oked Tvs ... I'm either going for the Sony 75x95L of the Samsung S90c please advise...yes I'm in the UK...Best regards. J.R
There is is still ABL and ASBL yeah but if it will bother you is hard to say, there’s no doubt the picture quality is better than that LCD and you shouldn’t lose much brightness overall but full screen scenes might seem not as bright compared to LCD.
I’ve often wondered if this, whilst certainly interesting, is a really helpful comparison. What we are testing here really is the difference between WOLED and QD-OLED and, for me, these technologies are too different to be compared on tests like this.
Still, I think it certainly adds to the debate between DV- equipped teles and non-DV ones.
Excellent comparison and I think it shows how important calibration is. Like FOMO’s U8H his tv of the year last year is calibrated and looks phenomenal. In every compassion that I have seen against any tv it looks amazing! So you should probably have it calibrated weather it’s on Dolby Vision or HDR. It should be in your total cost of whatever tv your getting. Probably better to get your tv from Value Electronics so you can have it done before it’s shipped.
Just checked Best Buy, for Labor Day sale, G3 55in is $1999, Samsung 55in s90c is $1499. Is G3 $500 better. I don't think so. It's built better, brightness isn't that much better to me. Still, regular nonsale price was G3 55in was $2499.
Good video KG, that answers the question about whether you push Samsung over LG. You pick tvs strengths against their weaknesses and give us your honest opinion. I prefer Samsung.
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Wich firmware on s95c ?
Is it true that no Dolby Vision support on the Samsung doesn't matter anymore because the TV performs to a high enough level that it doesn't need dynamic tone mapping?
Which one of these tv's puts out a stronger soap opera effect? I love how movies and tv look with it cranked up. I currently have a qn90b but i am considering one of these oleds.
I’d say Samsung definitely does
@@TechWithKG thank you for the reply. That's surprising to me, I would have guessed that the LG would have been the answer. I hardly get any soap opera effect at all on my qn90b and I have the motion settings maxed to 10.
So I'm guessing you probably like the G2 better all around than the g3? Would you get that over the G3 ? And is the G3 really that much better in brightness over the 2? Hope to hear from you
I like the G3 much better than the G2.
Difference is unbelievably small. Also samsung have slightly warmer colors that I like. Also, from what I could see, LG G3 after 3 months have burn in ( rtings burn in test , 10 month update)...
So clearly tell me in qled hdr10+ is best or Dolby Vision
great video Kg, its time for another live.
Please do a video using bt2020 on the samsung compared to dolby vision on LG
Tech With KG
Navid Furutan I can see how you think that, but that likely isn't the case the people who will actually change the color space to BT 2020 are definitely a much lower % than the ones who won't touch that setting. Most people don't even understand color space let alone know theres a setting for it. I would say a mass majority of tv buyers/owners will just find one of three modes vivid, standard, or movie/filmmaker mode and just leave it in that mode with no further adjustments.
My point was that majority of people watching your TH-cam video here are of the Kind that understand color space and are looking to see if Dolby Vision is worth it if S90C is setup with it's best presentation settings. That's what I care about really.
@TechWithKG please do a video on Dolby Vision gaming with G3 vs Samsung HDR10 gaming vs HDR10 G3. 🙏🏾💯
Pls help. Which tv is better for sports? Fantasy football coming up, thanks for the video!
The g3 looked brighter (better in the corners) than the s90c in this vid. Not sure if s95c would be any better?
While this video is good for showing their differences out of the box, the results should come as no suprise as the G3 is the MUCH more expensive unit.
If I may ask, what was the size on that S90C. The reason I ask is because there are some important differences between the 55”/65” (1st Gen) and the 77” (2nd Gen) panels when it comes to performance.
One last thing: it would be awesome if you do this same video and change to BT2020 without stopping the recording so we can see the instant difference it makes. I myself do not care about DV is the TV processing is capable of showing a beautiful picture by using its own method. Besides, to me, DV is still a hit or miss no matter what TV you play it on… Thanks KG
All great suggestions and I wish I did a few things differently with this video I’ll make it better next time I do a similar video. This was a first gen panel S90C 55”. 55 and 65 now may actually be shipped out with the 2nd gen panels but this was filmed near release it was definitely a first gen panel I checked.
If your tv brightness is above 1000 nits you honestly don't need to care. Dolby vision is great for tvs with low brightness / dynamic range since it dynamically tonemaps scenes or frames.
Thanks @TechWithKG Finally someone on TH-cam had the courage to do this comparison side by side. It was quite hard to understand why many were shying away from this very fundamental question that will break the deadlock for many. I appreciate you putting this video!
Should've used the s95 vs g3. Someday there the top tier atbeach levels offerings. S90c should be against C3. Or unless the s90c is just that much better? Now that's saying something
@@JohnS858 I think Samsung did upgrade the s90c's panel to the s95 panel so it is a bit brighter but I think you're right in the comparisons.
@charleswilson5921 for the money and what you get with the s90c. It's reallllly hard 2 beat. Don't get me wrong, Not everyone has 2600 dollars plus tax and wall mount to spent on a television. But for bout 3k all said n done. S90c in 77inches, you get 2nd gen Qd oled, above average sound, TV that's gonna last at least another 10 years, a picture quality that IMO cannot really look much better even in the years to come... that's all I can think of atm. I mean eventually this TV will cost less than a thousand dollars. But for time being and what I'm going to get out of it totally satisfies me. In the future I'm sure internally everyone will still nit-pick according to specs and some people don't even own these devices and go go soley off of specs and what's on paper about details of item/TV. 😂😂 I seriously couldn't be more happy with this TV I even took back the C3 77in. Cause IMO.. that's key. My own opinion.. it def. Looked better and brighter AND priced almost identical. I said way too much ha anyways that's my 2-3cents on it 🫠
I get streaming is king now and it’s how most people consume their content, but if you want to compare DV and HDR10 you should be using a better source. Netflix is the limiter in this comparison. How about a 4K Blu Ray comparison with Avatar 2 collectors edition or Titanic?
I've been a television producer for over 30 years and I've got to tell you Dolby vision can be nice but it also has a lot of issues and is fairly overhyped. One of the biggest issues is that very often Dolby vision movies end up crushing some of the black levels into invisibility. I compared the scene in Dune where you see the inside of the sand worms mouth on HDR 10 versus Dolby vision with absolutely no other adjustments changed on my OLED television set and on the Dolby vision version the inside of the mouth is almost invisible, whereas with the HDR 10 you can still clearly see all the details without looking overly bright. And I've seen this time and time again where people have said they have issues with Dolby vision both looking slightly duller and too dark. I then tried playing the exact same Dolby vision movie through my oppo 203 both with Dolby vision and Dolby vision disabled and asked people to pick which one they liked better and every single person preferred the image with the Dolby vision off.
you need panasonic dmr zr1 4k player. and good tv.
which size is the s90c and does it really matter?
It does matter. 77" has the 2nd gen panels...nothing smaller.
Out of the box, the S90C has stutter while on Filmmaker mode. Any idea how to get rid of that? The same content doesn’t stutter on Standard mode
Film maker mode is shite at the best of times
@@paulmidgley8040It's the most accurate mode for HDR on Samsung tvs.
@@paulmidgley8040 Most accurate for those who actually calibrate the tvs...
if I want to play content from Netflix or Disney that only has the Dolby version, will I see it in SDR or hdr10?
Hdr10
I hope you can help me. I have an A90J 65" an A90J 55" and just purchased an A95L 77" . Everyone of you experts Brian, HDTV and alike all say Dolby Vision Dark is what the direct intended. If that is true they all have dark depressing personalities. Playing movies in Dolby Dark or Dolby bright is so depressing they are unwatchable. The most unwatchable movies in those formats and that includes Sony's new professional that replaced custom are the movies that have been transferred to 4K from film like Jerry Lewis Nutty Professor and Elvis in Blue Hawaii. These pictures look like the director intended when watched in Dolby Vivid. Can you share some "light" on this for me? I also have the Panasonic UB-9000PK1
2:20 on s90c, red wall, mike shadow is visible, however back ceiling is not visible. I am sure few of these things can be tuned on off tuned on the tv. If was not super expensive, sony qd oled is ultimate winner.
Awesome video!
However... I still can't make up my mind between the LG C3 and the S90C :D
Can you please recommend me which one I should choose?
I watch like 70% Netflix/HBO-streams and PC-gaming is 30% .
I currently have TCL C849 with pixel problems and that's why I'm switching.
Soundbar is the Samsung Q995C
Or can anyone else help me? :)
S90C much brighter, better quality/uniformity, and better color. New technology vs old technology
@@TechWithKG thanks mate!
So Dolby Vision isnt worth it?
Thank you KG
First thing i just want to point out that out of box colors in any modes on the tvs feel oversaturated and vibrant that does not look good ... i had to tune my s90d in movie mode to make it soothing for eyes ... just.popping color does not make picture good to watch ... its the overall balance ...
Are you sure that hdr works in filmmaker mode? Try movie mode instead filmmaker. Tv always detect hdr in every mode (dynamic, srandard, eco, you can see that in settings when choose picture mode) but in filmmaker for some reason don't. And brightness in this mode is lower in my feeling, than in Movie.
It works the icon is the only one that doesn’t say hdr but it works just look at settings and if you have a setting adjustment called st 2084 you know you’re in hdr
@@TechWithKG tnx, I'll check it!
Nice video. The difference is minimal and the only way to tell is if you compare two paused videos side by side. Verdict: DV is not worth the extra money.
It isn't with TCL and Hisense.
S95c vs G3 is right comparison
It’s going to be pretty close to the same result in fmm.
@@SD71232that’s not entirely accurate. The S90C and the S95C are practically the same TV.
Key differences:
S95C = better built frame, more powerful audio system and the one-connect box. PQ is pretty much the same. Check out FOMO’s Editors Choice TV of 2023 where he explains this.
Dolby Vision is misleading because it is a 12 bit color technology and no tv out has 12 bit color.
It’s a colour computer like 16 bit Samsung panels
HDR10 looks better here lol. I thought the right pic was dv then I checked video title.
At the scene from 5:12 you can clearly see how much more detail the G3 presents. Check the ring. Or check the finger nails. The whole scene is more balanced more natural on the G3.
U need to compare the g3 to s95c to be fair dude and use hdr10+ instead of hdr.
Or C3 to S90C since those are much more budget friendly.
Samsung s95b (1503 firmware) much brighter and Filmmaker higher than the Dolby Vision!!!
compare...
rather dolby or hdr I rather have a technology that can fit all kind of video in the size of the screen from smartphone to tablet to tv coz at the moment some video cannot be display correctly according to the device screen coz right now it is shot according to the aspect it's shot in not it is how going to be displayed on multiple devices as some devices like TV can correctly display the video aspect but not on smartphone resulting a black bar on both sides or when using software to enlarge the video aspect resulting in the lost of some details especially to the edges of the screen
S90C handles motion much better, thus being the default better option if you have any video game consoles.
depends on if want tv with high end 4k upscaling and 4k image quality and are you a ps5 user or xbox series x/s user look into what these platforms can support differ know what tv right for you. however if want future proof with tv with 8k ability I wont Samsung flagship 8k tv with 8 speakers on back and features Sony tech where screen is your main speaker model of such tv is QN900D if your in North America.
should have included the "right" settings for the samsung. thats not a correct dv vs no dv comparison. and then it's also put in filmmaker mode. hope there will come a real comparison.
Maybe I was wrong to mention the setting changes I would make in this video and I should of saved it for a settings video, I wanted to give people the actual out of the box filmmaker mode experience with no tweaks compared to the DV cinema mode because I wanted to demonstrate that this is also a pain point for Samsung owners. The change to BT 2020color space change on the S90C/S95 won’t be perfect for some either it brings problems of its own and many may feel it’s too saturated and they probably will need to lower the color setting. Samsung needs to setup an automatic color space change or just make BT 2020 as default as that’s what the TV should be switching to most of the time anyway and they should give it more attention as this allows the TVs to be used to their maximum potential. DCI-P3 on Samsung also has posterization in colors where BT2020 will not. The “auto” setting has been broken for years.
However most people here, looking at this channel, won't leave it in that color space? So why not also have it with the BT2020 for what we will actually be seeing in our living rooms!
@@nfurutan I can see how you think that, but that likely isn't the case the people who will actually change the color space to BT 2020 are definitely a much lower % than the ones who won't touch that setting. Most people don't even understand color space let alone know theres a setting for it. I would say a mass majority of tv buyers/owners will just find one of three modes vivid, standard, or movie/filmmaker mode and just leave it in that mode with no further adjustments.
I alway use dolby vision even for gaming
The PQ is one thing but the bigger reason I recommend DV capable TVs is it’s more supported industry wide, from streamers to Xbox gaming. No norm ie is going to monkey with HGIG
Not on any Sony 's OLED's 🤢
Dolby Vison is dynamic... so can a paused video actually make it clear to see?!
Why didn’t u compare the G3 with the S95C???? Also why hdr10+ so dark on movies and so dark on face and daytime scenes looks overcast ???
I did and it was the same I just wanted to show the S90C as the more affordable option for people as an alternative.
@@TechWithKG so s90c and s95c is the same picture quality?
The G3 is double the price of the S90C in my country.
Definitely not worth double imo
Dolby vision is more realistic and HD10 Brings sharper & clearer pictures
Which one is Dolby
Why is hdr10+ so dark when streaming on prime???? Is it supposed to be bright or dark? All the movies on hdr10+ on prime looks overcast throughout the whole movie 🍿 even on bright day scenery…. When it’s dark or night scene can’t even see the face so dark
I just watched a movie on Hulu with hdr 10+ it definitely wasn’t dark I think it depends on the content and how it was mastered.
@@TechWithKG I think it’s also prime on that tcl .. but when watching on prime on my other Samsung and LG it’s fine … oh well hope they can come fix it if not gonna return and get a different one
dolby vision has richer quality, less noise , no colour and shades bleeding
DV is awesome watching Christian Bales batman movies
Can you please do a video with both TV's calibrated to their best strengths like bt2020 on the Samsung and dloby vision LG? I want to know how these compare when thay are at their best. Thanks ❤😊
The G3 is substantially more expensive than the S90C - The S90C equivalent from LG is the C3. The C3, even with Dolby Vision, looks worse than the HDR10 S90C. Not all Dolby Vision TV's are the same, so a really good HDR10 TV (S90C) can look better than an average Dolby Vision TV (C3). Similar to how two soundbars, both with Dolby Atmos, can sound completely different. The C3 will meet the minimum requirements for Dolby Vision, whereas the S90C will far surpass the minimum for HDR10, and subsequently end up looking better, with a brighter more colourful image
duno maybe im a noob, they look pretty much the same to me. xD
Thing is if you didnt have them side by side you wouldn't know any different. They dont look that much different if we're going to be honest eh?
The Samsung looks better for me. The LG looks too bright in places
For all dummies out there,
DV is nothing but a marketing terminology (overrated) like "retina display". It's actually an algorithmic data mapping of brightness and darkness where needed. Hdr10+ can do exactly that, just different name. Do you think Samsung is that cheap and cannot afford to pay royalty fees like Hisense? Theirs is superior without DV. This is why they adopted Atmos, but not Vision. They know where they are weak and where they're not. I have both TVs by the way, HDR10 and DV, side by side Sammy has better overall HDR.
Had he turned on bt.2020 color mode it would've killed the g3 in terms of color
I approve this comment on a high level. 😂 nicely said!!! I stg TV critics are far superior than the Android vs. Apple people. All I can say is my s90c in 77in. Is freaking fanominal of a TV for its price. Sure, there's better Tvs certainly without a doubt 100 percent!! But at 77in and less than 3k, I cannot be upset with purchase I made and what I have to view. As long as your happy w tour purchase is wat I've been told lol and yeee I totally am very happy with it. 😊
Dolby vision is a better format either you like it or not... It is the best way to watch a movie that support it if ypu have of cource a proper premium calibrated tv... The rest is history😉
True. I use streaming services like Disney plus and Netflix for dolby vision
I don't get the hype, it just highlights things diff...
@@asole100 yes the difference in the most cases are minimums but it is a better format with 12 million colours... 2 million difference from hdr 10 plus (12 bit - 10 bit) so the result would always be better... Not just the highlights, tbe colours are more accurate as well...
@@anolinio7693 It's hard to know whether that makes a big difference since one panel was using BT2020, and the other was using DCI which looks washed out compared to BT2020. However adjusting the saturation should fix that with DCI. (at least for me it did when I tried it out) Dolby Vision also seems to add blue to areas where you would think there shouldn't be any which to me is a vibe but also defeats the purpose of wanting accurate colors.
BS. I played exact same frames side by side hdr10 outperform in games.
At the end of the day, between G3 and S95C both have their strengths and weaknesses, G3 at times has much better depth and clarity, whites are brighter, on the other hand I really dislike that green tint its pushing the entire time in all these scenes, while I much prefer the color presentation of QD Oled. Movies I'd still give the edge to the G3 with Dolby vision enabled here, for Gaming we already know the S95C is the better choice. The question now is only weither the A95L can combine the strengths of both these TV's to be the "End all, be all" solution. Afterall it's really about a QD-Oled that can show Dolby Vision in both Movies and Gaming which gets people most excited.
Yea the sony should be great! But it will also be around $5000 for the 77" while I just picked a 77" S90c for less than 1/2 that ($2231 labor day). I think the sony will be great for people who just want the best, no matter the price. I'll be back to look at this comment in 3 years when both these prices seem ridiculous lol.
@@JFlywheel who knows, QD Oled may drop in 3 years once MicroLED makes its entrance on the consumer market. But then again Standard WRGB Oled like C3, A80L, or even older models like C2, C1, A80K or A90J are still overpriced, so probably more wishful thinking.
My S90c 77in also is great! Price/feature. It can't be beat, and also why would a 2nd tier S90c be compared to the the winning G3 top tier class? Lol seems like the S90c is punching way above its class for being 2nd highest of the offerings.
Never used dolby, for me it just looks dull.
coping mechanism
Not much difference
QD OLED beats Dolby Vision
Proper TV Calibration = dolbyvision is way overrated.
No it isnt
@@ahmet_10yes it is…. S90C proves 🤷♂️ the A95L (double the price) does not deliver a significant better experience
@@grantorino9049 a95l is best oled tv, so it is worth
Prefer to have DV.
I think you should change the title of the video to s90c vs g3, cause wouldn't it make more sense to use the s95c, that's samsungs top of the range oled like the g3.
DV vs HDR10+ is definitely a hard topic, there's so many factors that could come into play.
first off, G3 and S90C aren't even in the same league. You need to compare the C3 and S90C.
G3 looks good but not $1000 better.
S90C is not usable for their gaming issues.
OLED tech is not capable of displaying HDR / DV. What they do is attempt to display these formats. You are not seeing HDR when your panel has a full field peak brightness capability of less than 200 nits. You're missing out on at least 50% of what these formats have to offer. Let me give you an example, as we all know HDR is meant to simulate real life on your panel. When you come out of a dark cave into the sunlight you are supposed to be squinting because the sudden light exposure is blinding. On a good QLED you will absolutely experience this effect. On virtually every single OLED or QD-OLED ABL will kick in and every single scene like this will be completely neutered. The effect completely lost. Such contrasts in brightness are what HDR is all about and OLED owners are missing out on all of this every single time. I was all about OLED till I experienced HDR on a high quality QLED. It is such a vastly different experience that it might as well be a different format altogether. You have never seen HDR, you have simply seen an attempt at HDR. You can't argue against one single claim I've made here.
The LG G3 DV completely crushes the S90C without any mercy
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
G3 better quality. Better looking panel. 5 year warranty. Better with SDR. Dolby Vision. No contest to me.
And at least 500bucks more 😅
The S90C definitely has the better looking panel.
It’s even better with DV IQ
I like DV on G3
More vibrant colors means nothing to me if the color accuracy is just wrong and green tinted lol Also, the G3 is a tier above the S90C lineup wise, you should compare either the C3 to the S90C, or the G3 to the S95C. This is clearly not a fair comparison.
Question of title not really answered. Just shows poppy colours on the DV Oled. What a wonder.
This is not a good comparison. You need to use the same TV for a fair comparison.
cannot tell any difference!
Now compare both with caliberated settings
Samsung needs to put dolby in their tv. The difference is huge.
Dolby Vision is a scam gimmick. The only reason why anyone even cares is because you view something side by side. But in your home you dont have any reference you have what you have. So either OLED will look amazing.
Its like comparing two identical cars but one with a turbo engine and one without. Is the turbo cool? Sure. But is it absolutely necessary to enjoy the car and atill get a great experience? Absolutely not.
Hdr10 looks better in these pics
G3 9.1
S95C 9.0
G3 better than s95c
The main reason the G3 won is because LG processes low bitrate content better than the Samsung everything else was pretty close. But the s95c is so much cheaper than the g3 right now with AAA discount. I bought the 77s95c for $3k now if the g3 was the same price I’d take the g3 no doubt about it. I just prefer that brand the OS the remote the glossier darker panel the less stressful firmware updates etc and I do plan to watch sports on espn and yt tv. I’m also worried about the Samsungs lifespan, I’ve never owned a Samsung. I’ve had the C9 since 2019 I’ve had no issues and I bought that one open box.
S95C is better it was at 9.1 fist then everybody cried and they reversed the score lol QD Oled is the way!
@@NexGenTek do you know what metric changed that dropped the mixed usage rating? I do remember seeing the s95c on top for a couple of months.
@@trayvonlittle9326 Could’ve been the news of 40gbps instead of 48gbps
@@NexGenTek Very true, that makes sense.
Wrong. Dont activate BT2020 on the S90 or S95C. You will get totally overblown colors for content that is not even available. You get far better and accurate colors with P3.