We test off road mod for propshaft
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Apparently this should help your car get out of situations when it's sitting on the underbody, but does it actually?
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Maybe bigger circles to digging a little deeper would probably help because if it digs deeper than there’s more to bite and therefore more propulsion but just a thought you guys are amazing
Also to dig deeper for clearance for the rear axle pumpkin, which hangs lower than the drive shaft. Maybe tapered front to back.
No it’s meant for very deep liquid mud the kind that Americans use trucks with 40+ inch tires into where the mud is basically liquid it’s a stupid pointless thing in this situation because unless it’s basically the only thing on the ground something is going to hang it up you’re never going to get enough surface area pushing against ground that is solid enough to actually do anything
@@600wheel Yeah it didn't really do much as he said.
I was thinking it was more for rock crawling, but maybe I can see it helping in mud, but I wouldn't think it would help that much. Just my guess.
@@UberLummox it only works in the mud where it’s basically like water and it doesn’t work that well but sometimes all you need is just a tiny little bit to get you back into the traction zone again but like I said the machine has basically gotta be floating on its own tires before it really does much the guys actually find it works better when they put a propeller on the backside of the pumpkin because most of them are running military axles that have an input and output on the top of the pumpkin for the Piñon so axles can be put together in tandem or more depending on the weight you want to haul and even then the propeller doesn’t do much more than the screws but it does do something and when there’s $10,000 on the line for the first person who can make it through the hole you will try any little trick to get you a little bit more. And as far as rock crawling something like that would be known as a rock magnet if anything guys want to find ways to make their driveshaft smaller not bigger there’s no situation where something like that wouldn’t cause more problems than it’s worth you would have a great deal of added weight meaning vibration you would have a massive driveshaft that would hang up all the time and likely bend. And I’m not a guy punching a keyboard I’m a guy who was very heavily in the offloading world before I broke my back and rock crawling was what I loved trust me that wouldn’t benefit in anyway and if you think I’m wrong just go to an off-road rock crawling message board and ask those guys that question and believe me you will not get nearly as polite of an answer but you will definitely get an answer
@@600wheel Haha cool! Thanks.
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The concept is good. You should try it in deep snow, it might work better there.
i agree yup deep snow would be better
Reminds me of the screw driven tractors. The US made one called Armstead Snow Motor and Russia made a ZIL-2906
tyco made the terrain twister
You guys should build twin screw tracks on the rear of this thing
I think they already created something similar with barrels..
Imagine that vibration 😂😂
A top speed run would be terrifying!
@@volvo09 14 kph
Bigger screw threads , this is a cool idea! It does have potential .
And an actuator to keep the differential's input pointing slightly down. In most of the clips, you see the differential's input going up whenever torque gets applied and that raises the screw by 3-4cm.
@@teardowndan5364 yes but too bad they dont seem to pay attention to the comments and the ones that they do notice is a new project rather than improving on the old one
Those Ladas were designed and built for the unpaved roads of the USSR, hence why it performs so well offroad all by itself. Simple, tough and inexpensive transportation. Great video!
G54 is now the best off-roading channel on TH-cam. Make the blades even bigger near the differential.
they are the best at testing what would happen if we try this channel which is way better
Y’all did it the hard way, but It’s not like they could go to the local tractor supply store and get an auger attachment for a tractor 🤣🤣 I love the idea tho!
More $$$
once the screw clears the dirt, you have nothing left.
might work in a silty river edge where everything will drop deep enough to get traction.
It’s built for very deep mud bogs where the mud is basically liquid and the tires are no longer touching hard ground because the vehicle is floating that’s where the design is used it’s an old trick here in Mudbog country competition Mudbog nowhere in the real world are you going to find justification for something like that but not mind losing massive amounts of ground clearance Except maybe if you are actually loading your 4 x 4 in a lake but then the tires rotating give you forward motion this screw drive shaft has one use and one application
It might work on hard soil. Wet soil gives no reaction force. Love it.
he should have made the car amphibious that would have been interesting to see how it worked in the water
This might be a good thing to have when mud holing. Going through a deep mud hole the blades could act like a prop to help propel you forward through the mud.
it would be good if the first did a practice without the screw to figure out a base line for the test and then where the car gets stuck they can focus on testing the blades there
I think you're right it digs a groove to clear the differential and that can be enough to get through .
Thanks for the videos .
the screw should have been the whole length of the drive shaft cause it digs into the ground it would have a better chance of moving the car if it were longer
107% success i'd say
Yeah in throwing the balance of the shaft. That's all.
Exactly
Bigger auger threads and a locked rear end would make that thing go pretty much anywhere, also notice the differential has a lot of axial wind-up. Find a way to make the rear end not wind up so much and the auger won’t be pulling itself off the dirt so much, pillow-block bearings and support brackets perhaps? The idea is cool as hell, but quite possibly impractical 🤷🏻♂️.
I wonder what twists most - the corkscrew or the Lada's weakened chassis! 😁
I say both it's a 50 50 situation the lada twists 50% and the prop shaft the other 50%🤣
Holy shit, they finally bought a plasma cutter.
it's to high they need the screw to be closer to the ground that way it hits more stuff when you drive it🤣
You should use that on the car boat to make it move in the water better
In those situations you just weld a simple propeller through the driveshaft and do you know how you know that would work better because if a screw works better than a propeller you would see screws hanging out the back of boats
@@600wheel it took 2000 years for humans to go from rolling tree stumps to wheels. I'm sure a version of you was saying exactly the same things back then
@@AlienLivesMatter The propeller is actually just a section of a screw the propeller was created from the screw so the propeller is the next generation after the screw going back to a screw would be going back not forward. So yes the smart guys back then we’re going how do we make this more efficient and lighter and work better and there was an idiot going add more screw and there was another guy saying no let’s make it smaller and lighter and just use a section of it. So once again who is the idiot here
"It's all very curious and questionable" Perfect, right up your alley. Also, seems like just add some floats and you have an amphibious car.
it's stall but then the engines a bit cold love it🤣
Make 2 screws where the frame rails are on both side of the car. Then it can drive like a screw tank but just be a few inches higher than the tires.
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"As Long As Your Movin You Aint Stuck"
The main thing I like about these Ladas is that the simple design allows them to last a life time with plenty of space to work with for upgrades and maintenance hell just by looking in the engine bay pretty much every thing is easy to reach and replace when needed I wish it was possible to get one in the US.
Good idea... But we need a screw with a MUCH steeper thread pitch. It looks like the screw digs in and slings stuff out of the way, rather than providing screw propulsion. Another option is a low range gear box so that the screw spins slower.
A secondary concern is if the driveshaft is strong enough to support the vehicle while spinning and pulling mud out of the way...
The gearbox mounts are so warn the screw lifts of the ground
Revisit this in winter. This would work great in deep snow
Bigger screw threads close to size of rear diff to work properly so it digs a trench for the diff to slide threw, put the same style on a mud trk n works great
I just love seeing such a beat up car still driving around, it's interesting. it looks like something from a post apocalyptic movie or game.
try the game DayZ there are old Russian cars and the map is inspired by Russia
Use that driveshaft on the floating car. The one with the trophy atv tires. It would add more propulsion.
How about making a metal paddle wheel which can lower to the ground for ultimate traction. Or maybe a second axle that turns with the first but a few inches off the ground that way on pavement and good roads it does not touch but mud sand the factory tires sink a bit allowing the metal paddle axle to dig in and push out out.
There is a use for that. Make a bucket with a spout and have a Lada salt spreader for winter. Or use it to make crops with seeds. Like farm equipment
I think it won't really work in the Lada because it doesn't have a transfer case with low range. So the propshaft doesn't have enough torque behind it.
Pork has nothing to do with it it is a design that was made up for trucks that go into mud bog competitions where the mud is so deep the truck is now floating because of the tires in the tires aren’t touching the hard bottom the driveshaft gives you a slight amount of forward motion hoping you will gain traction again it is not something that has any real world Applications
Works better with higher ground clearence pickup trucks which have no added weight in the box, help like propeller when under water
It would work better if the prop shaft and rear wheels spun at the same rate...
You must make big circle, clean and precision
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Hey guys I think the blades need to be bigger and try to put solide motor mountings same for the transmission and the rear need to stay down too . Thanks guys love the channel 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I noticed the wheels spin faster than the screw advances.
I think the screw should be the same speed as the wheels, or maybe faster.
Lowering the ratio from the differential to the wheels could improve things.
You might still need to make the screw larger. The screw-driven tanks have really big screws. Trying to match the screw pitch to the one they used on the tanks might be a good idea, too.
The blades obviously need to be larger.
If you put it behind the rear axle and set it up so you could push it down further and maybe lift part of the rear wheels it might work better
This really demonstrates what benefit is from 4WD/AWD drive versus RWD.
make the screw drive from bigger circles, angle grind away the excess weld from the outer edges of the circles, the excess weld acts like a saw which removes material, and we're supposed to go across the material, not remove it and make a super low gear for the screw drive to properly do its thing instead of throw all the material out the back.
The scariest thing I can imagine is that after a whole day of hard work, we realized the blades were in the wrong direction.
That thing is used in mud pits where the mud is at least 5ft deep and basically liquid
"A Lada would've made it through anyway." And that's why experiments need a control Lada to compare to. :)
“Battle Chariot”… lol that…going to use that phrase
You should try to stretch a car widder, like the VW Lamando 5XL
just remove the back wheels and swap them for counter rotating screws so you het a "half track" lada
theyve all ready done that
Definitely has some potential. A Lada lawnmower would be cool!
theyve done that...
How about Putting floatation devices on the car and see if the screw will propel the car thru water as in , on a pond or lake?
13:53 play it slow and you see how the prop shafts gets lifted up from the dirt as you load it up, maybe a more solid center mount for the prop so it cant flex out of the way could help?
I like the looks of the truck you are driving What did look like when it was new? What year is it?
You mean the purple car. It used to be a station wagon (VAZ-2104). Those guys have cut the rear portion of the car with saws. The year of manufacture could be anywhere between 1984-2012.
Either way, there used to be a few factory made pick-ups which were built on the base of this model. They were called VIS-2345, there were even versions to pull semi trailers called VIS-23454.
Solid!
Top KEK!
even if it grabs the ground it wouldnt work on soft mud. simple physics. it needs a hard surface to get the resistance needed to push off the ground.
Now add a way to keep it afloat and try it in water!
Could u bould an electric powered lada powered by a flywheel as was used in Gyrobus from the 1950's. There is no need for batteries or an engine. Would be interesting to see how far it would drive and what the handling would be like with a big gyroscope in the car.
this would work better if driving over MX whoops, in this case I believe the problem is your driving in ruts which highcenters the car in an unwanted axis.
Wonder if a treadmill skid-plate would work better.
Great sucses!
They just used an I've hope sugar but I like how you guys did it much more robust
Blades must be switch because when you drive forward the propeller would propell the car backward if flat on the ground the video shows that clearly this will cause that the wheels wil propell against the propeller or as we call it a auger what I suggest is the switch the blades but make it bigger and put a pillow block bearing on the propshaft because the weight is pushing it in the body and there for make this a redundant mod just a suggestion
No
I think if the blades were longer and at more of an angle it'd work pretty good.
should have made the screw taper from the size in the front to twice the dia. in the rear
Grt work
I wanted to put a tank tread bottom on my fwd car because im always getting stuck
Nothing one inch longer than things dragging will move you. The screw would have to have at least 8 inches of dig...and even then would do nothing if trying to drag the rear axle.
Can you use the screw to motivate through water like a propeller?
a propeller is a screw
That potato gun car is gonna get sent straight to the frontline.
Man you gotta build the Mole from Thunderbirds 2 or convert a Lada to Thunderbird 4 :D
Needs to be bigger and I think it needs to be reversed as you can tell it worked great in reverse but once you began to go forward it seemed like it was holding the car back!
Lada submarine!
You should try to make an electric car from a lada diy style
Ease off the clutch? Is that right translation?
I was thinking making a blower run off the drive shaft have a button you touched when you're racing the drive shaft spinning at high speed hit the button and hope for a few more pounds of boost probably not but I'd like to try it. Keep up the great work
Pls make the screw larger in outer diameter 🤘😎
DAMN I THOUGHT YOU WERE MAKING A BOAT CAR!
Needs to be larger. Also I would like to see it in deep snow
Hey, this would work much better in water, I'd like to see you make an amphibous car with propshaft screw
Imagin a cat sleep under a car with a prop shaft like that the cat go shread
It needs paddles on back tiers
Would love to see sand and gravel
Good try and you have proven it's not practical. Maybe build auxiliary screws that can be lowered on each side. Would take more hydraulics to run them and raise and lower.
Please do another magnetic suspension maybe even a car that runs on magnets
Maybe doing on a 4x4 instead! More like Uaz! And maybe made the blades larger!👌😂👍
I cannot believe that the prop shaft did not just get a bent and the snap. !!
after twisting a few i know they are too soft to snap, and they have lots of spring for bending. after being welded on who knows?
I would still like to see you guys make a legit off road vehicle. A 4x4 something with some major agricultural type tires
the old mans 1st mistake was not allowing one of the young bucks to drive it 1st.If there is a weak link-they will find it,,,fast.
Turn a Lada into a boat !
How about a translated video of that spud cannon on top??
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you should make the quitest Lada
Colin fruze made a screw driven machine kind of like this.
should of tried going over some logs.
I was thinking an in water thing
The diff moves too high up and the blades don’t dig in enough. So need bigger blades to work
Must be total murder on the balance of the shaft on the hi way.
You guys made a Lada lawn mower yet???
they have
once it is in the mud and your stuck..... would be hell to pull it out... would think
Mint
Should do this with boat props and then drive through water.