@@rpm1796 the argument is air superiority is just about information. The F35 denies it to the enemy via stealth and picks it up better than the enemy by it sensors. That make sit a boss CAP aircraft. Once we've adapted the meteor it has the weapon advantage too.
@@rpm1796 I would take a f35 over a f22 ANY day. And the F35 will wax the floor against the F22 any day of the week. But why? In the 1950’s everything was thought to center around speed. Even an f104 Starfighter (1958) can maintain supersonic flight without afterburners. In the 29 dogfight kills during desert storm (1991), max speeds seen by fighters were Mach 1 Now of course the f22 has award winning kinetic performance, no doubt about it. From a raw performance point of view, the f22 really is impressive. However, that performance is not going to rack up or increase kills in the battle theatre. Tops on this list is that due to budget cuts, the f22 lacks “passive” systems to track aircraft. By “passive” we mean receiver only (non radar being sent out). This is where the f35 excels right now, and is a significant shortcoming of the f22. Computer processing: The f22 in its debut had a very good computer system. It is rated at 700 MIPS (700 million instructions per second). There was plans to future upgrade the f22 with a 2000 mips processor. But the CPU used on the f22 is now long out of production. But, remember Moore’s law in computing? Every 2 years we see computing power near doubling. While this doubling every two years don’t sound like much? Well, place one grain of rice on the first square on a chess board. On the next square, place 2 grains of rice. And on the next square place 4 (so we have a total of 7 grains of rice). Do the above for 64 squares. You wind up with 1 billion grains of rice by the 40th square. By the 64th square, you actually need 210 billion tons (not grains, but tons) of rice! That amount of rice would cover ALL of India with about 3 feet of rice! The above means that the f22 has a really poor computer. For comparison, a low cost budget smart phone with a snapdragon processor? Well, one CPU core is rated for 1400 MIPS. But you have 4 of them!!! (All in that $90 smartphone). So, that smartphone has 5600 MIPS F22 = 700 MIPS. So, your cheapo smart phone has EIGHT times the computer power of the f22. The F35 uses RISC based CPU’s built around IBM’s power PC chips. They are the same architecture and chips used at the Lawrence Livermore atomic labs to run computer atomic bomb simulations. And all of IBM’S advanced Artificial Intelligence systems also use this chip set from IBM. Upgrades for the F35 central computer are to be rolled out next year - they will increase the computer power of the f35 by a WHOPPER 25 times (over what the f35 has now!!! And what the F35 ALREADY has is VERY good!!!). Not only does the f22 lack computer power, but it also lacks high speed networking. While a good many new fighter jets have passive (IRST) systems, they are mechanical scanned (a rotating mirror sends the input light and directs it to a sensor). Such sensors will tell you a fighter is say 35 degrees off the front of your jet. But you don’t know the speed, direction etc. And those systems have limited coverage (only front/forward looking for the jet). You need speed, direction, and altitude to generate a weapons lock. With 3 or more f35’s in the area, then just like 3 compass points or lines on a map, you can with computers triangle the location of the target. (You need 3 or more inputs). Toss in a BIG dose of computer power? Toss in some really amazing network commutation between the jets? Well, you now get x,y,z position of that target. And if you do this over and over, then you now get a new set of x,y,z and thus compare it to the last set of data. Now you have the REALLY valuable information of speed and direction of that enemy. And you doing this WITHOUT radar to give yourself away. And even MORE important is you need to be able to feed that data into the computers to generate a weapons grade solution. F35 can use radar, DAS (which is IRST) or use the targeting pod on the front (which is also an IRST + targeting system for air to ground). However, you have NOT turned on your radar to give yourself away. So, 3 F35’s approaching some f22’s will: See, track, display and build weapons grade firing solitons against the f22’s. And all of this will occur without radar. The f22? Blind as a bat. It will not see, track or be able to deploy its weapons on the F35. The f35 will simple fire away and shoot down those f22’s like fish in a barrel. The f22 on board systems are outdated. And what makes the f35 so deadly is its software. A phone without software is of little use. With software, it becomes near magic. So what else does the F35 do with all that computing power? Well, the DAS system (distributed Aperture system) is 6 high resolution high quality solid state cameras mounted around the F35. So, like a graphics card in reverse to make a 3d game? Well, this system takes that input, and provides the pilot with 360 views. It allows the pilot to look right thought the floor (and that is a HUGE blind spot for fighter pilots). So, you put computers to work on those input cameras. The computers will detected mortar fire on the ground, or even when a tank is firing its gun! The computers can process the camera input in real time. Lockheed states that the F35 can detect tank and mortal fire on the ground at “considerable” distance. So, now the F35 can slew it weapons towards those ground targets. And the computers also do full time real tracking of aircraft in all directions with this system. And go watch videos of HOW amazing zoom is on a distal camera - what the F35 has is even better and MORE sensitive. In fact, the DAS tracking system will allow the F35 to compute and give a firing solution for a jet following it from the rear. That’s because unlike the f22, the F35 is not limited to JUST using radar for a firing solution. So, to fire at a jet following you requires rear facing radar! (But not with the F35). So, radar in most jets is required for a firing solution. When the missile leaves the rails, it is NOT the missile that navigates to the target, but the fighter provides computers and radar that manages the first part of the missile flight. When the missile gets close to the target then the missile own radar and tracking takes over. And keep in mind that even during war games, the instant you turn on your radar is the instant you just turned your jet into a HUGE giant lighthouse of a target - stealth will not help so much. Look at me, I am here! Come and follow my powerful radar beam right to me!!! Stealth or not - you just given yourself away. The air battle theatre is now becoming like submarine warfare. Run silent - don’t give yourself away. And the F35 as even more tricks. The f35 also has a door that opens, and it can spool out a mini drone at the end of a cable. Again, with computers, that deployed drone (at the end of a cable) can make fake radar signals. (Even fake a squadron of jets - even of different types). And this deployable drone can even become what we call a “honey pot”. If all of the amazing counter measures of the F35 fail, then the drone can give off a radar signal for the missile to hit the drone at the end of the cable and NOT the f35! Right now? The f22 is hopelessly outgunned and outclassed by the F35. The f22 has next to no means to see, find, track and MOST important generate a kill solution to shoot down the f35. As much as I love the f22? It don’t stand one hope of a chance to engage the f35.
@@Albertkallal That was actually a really interesting read, thank you :) One thing I find really amazing is if we translate what you say into the compatibility of the f-35 with other RAF assets e.g. Typhoon which from what I've read is the stealthiest (clean config) 4th Gen around allowing it to operate closer to the front, and send/receive data via link 16 with the f-35, then the typhoon becomes the weapons carrier due to it's large payload which can fire from longer ranges using meteor/latest brimstone variant etc whilst the f-35 does all the targeting magic. Pretty lethal combo. I've heard the f-22/typhoon combo is pretty nuts as well from a few exercises. Put all 3 together plus land/ship based radar/missile capability + AWACS and it starts getting unbelievable. I'd hate to be the one coding all that software haha.
@@dr.strange8735 - Uhh, well nobody in the U.S. sees it that way. We generally see the U.K. as the one European ally that actually gives a crap about what's going on in the world and is willing to help.
UK was instrumental in the development of the DFLCS for JSF-B with the VAAC Harrier and X-35 test program, with Rolls Royce making the lift fan. They've been in on it from the ground level as partners with the US.
The F-35 is not just American you know, from day one the UK was part of the YF-35 project, the F-35 is basically a UK - US Designed and built jet, it was after the YF-35 won the contracted then other's cam in to the project.
I was on a school trip in the Lake District, we were canoeing across a lake when we heard this sound in the distance, then two of these came over the hill, flew past us only a few hundred feet above. Even though I knew we were on the same side it was still terrifying due to the speed and noise. God knows how scary it must be for anyone who’s seen as an enemy to these machines
Are you British or a fellow American? Just curious. The most insane thing I've ever seen is the original F117 and B2 flying. I was in PE class in highschool and one of each flew over for an air show here at the local airport. They both looked like they were from outer space in person
I think adversaries dont realise so many american and british pilots have combat experience in hostile airspace and how much experiencing that pressure counts
As a Brit it's a privelege to see our great pilots taking to the skies and defending our allied nations in such an aircraft. The F-35B compliments our Typhoon aircraft to give us a well rounded defense/attack capability and we are grateful to the US for sharing such technology with the UK.
Seems the world's main response so far is to dream up imaginary paper weapons to combat it. In the meantime this is real and in their face. It's a massive upgrade. I wouldn't want to be flying for the red team at the moment.
Red team has also been upgrading, gradually replacing terrible obsolete fighters with mediocre to okay new fighters. This may not seem like much of a worry, but keep in mind these are large quantities. As good as the F-35 is, it still has a very limited weapons load and can only engage small numbers of hostiles. Ideally stealth fighters should be backed up with high end balanced fighters with large external weapons stores. Fortunately the UK has Typhoons to do just that.
@@stupidburp F-35 has a very competent combat load, and can mount external weapons in needed as well giving it one of the largest combat loads in the world. Hundreds of F-35's are being built, and are high in number. The US also has around 3x as many fighter jets that are more advanced
Stu Bur - Russia isn't producing a lot of fighters and isn't going to because they can't afford to. Right now Russia only has around 800 fighters (Mig 29, Mig 35, Su 30, Su 35). I'm not sure how many fighters the UK Air Force and Navy has, but the US has ordered around 2,000 F-35s! Right now the US has around 190 F-22s, 451 F-15 C and E models, 943 F-16's, 200 F-35A, 57 F-35B, 21 F-35C, 512 F-18 Super Hornets, 540 F-18's. That's almost 3,000 active fighters that the US has right now that can be used. Even when the F-35 fleet has replaced the F-16's and the F-18's (not the Super Hornets), the US will still have a LOT more fighters than Russia could hope to have..
@@mississippirebel1409 Red team includes more than Just Russia. Both Russia and China have recently placed large orders for new fighters. The plans for the USAF are not firm orders, only about 500 F-35 are under firm order so far for example and even getting up to that number is going to take years. There is also the concern that Red team will likely not engage the USA directly but instead attack allies who are far less capable of self defense. This then could hurt US interests in various ways.
@@stupidburp But for external weapons load outs, the F35 is the best choice. Try these numbers for a nice shock!!! F16 - 20,000 lbs Typhoon - 27,800 lbs F18 - 28,900 lbs Rafael - 31,300 lbs Su57 - 37,320 lbs F15 - 40,000 lbs F35 - 49,540 lbs Above figures are max takeoff - empty weight. Even if you take max combat loads, the F35 is certainly at the top here, not “limited”. What legacy fighter are you suggesting that has better payloads? In addtion, the F35 has huge internal fuel loads, so the wing pylons are now avaiable for EVEN MORE weapons. When you look at a car driving down the street, do you see a bunch of extra gas cans on top? Well,with fighter jets, you ALWAYS, but near ALWAYS ALWAYS see extra fuel tanks. The are so small as to be use-less. But,the F35 changes this rule!!!! Fuel loads by common fighters: Fuel load: F16 - 7000 lbs
Still remeber watching the PBS episode where Lockheed went head to head with Boeing to see who had the best design and capability to build the next gen fighter. Amazing to see where this thing is at now
@@Albertkallal they wanted to save money using a single module for both wings. They shot themselves in the foot with that because they had to place the air intake for the vertical takeoff in the front for that reason. That cause a lot of safety issue, the first one being hot air from the jet entering in the front when landing and causing the engine to stall.
@@masterdeere Yes, you even see Harriers tend to rather strong cut their power when landing on ship decks. Think of when you turn on a kitchen faucet. The water streams down, and when it hits the bottom, it spreads out. So a layer of hot air starts to "build up" on the deck. If the engines digest this hot air, then you can get a compressor stall, and the hotter air also has less O2. Both are bad. The Harrier has a 150 gallon water tank on board. This water injection is turned on during hover. However, the tank only allows for 90 seconds of hover. At air shows, we have seen Harriers hover for say 3 even 4 minutes. They can do this if the weather is not too hot, and of course they have no weapons and VERY light fuel loads. edit: The water inject system keeps the Harrier engine from overheating, but also increases thrust of the engine since the water makes the air "more" dense when vaporized, and thus increases thrust. But that 150 gallons runs out after 90 seconds. The F35 is far better in this regards. First up, the cold air fan is pushing down a huge amount of wash that mixes in with the rear (hot) down thrust. Lockheed states that the Harrier when landing on cement can cause such rapid changes, that some bits can actually explode. Lockheed engineers state that the F35 actually puts down less heat (hot spots) then the Harrier and actually prevents hits deck overheating issue. So while decks should have heat treatment, the F35 is claimed by Lockheed to be less harm and heat on decks then is the Harrier. The other VERY but VERY significant issue is that behind the lift fan, an 2nd set of doors open to pull air from the top of the jet. And the front intakes are restricted (there are doors in the front intakes that close own air flow) So, you see the F35 do in most cases a softer landing then Harriers, since the F35 is pulling most of the cold air from the top of the jet, not the front like the Harrier. The Boeing design while very interesting would have been a real challenge to deal with the hot air. The F35 along with the Rolls Royce designed and built lift fan is really the way to go. And Rolls Royce has and had 40+ years of experience with the Harrier - so they were the best choice to get involved in the F35 VSTOL systems. The often quoted "myth" about the F35 is how it is oh so much harder and throws down more hot spots on ship decks. It is another one of MANY false rumors we read about the F35 on a near daily basis.
@@masterdeere The lift fan was the way to go, and one BIG reason was the lifting ability. All VSTOL jets have LIMITED payloads, and tend not to be able to fly fast. The F35 and the lift fan is a game changer. The HMS Q would be really hampered with ANYTHING else then the amazing Rolls Royce lift fan system. It allows about double the payload of the Harrier. It gets even better!!! We all know and love the Harrier, but the ocean floor it littered with un-used bombs, since the Harrier often has to dump fuel, and even weapons before landing on a ship. The F35? Well, bombs are expensive now, so you can't have a system that assumes you can just throw away some missiles or bombs to land on a ship. A f18 landing on a USA super carrier is rated for 4,000 lbs return stores. If payloads are over 4,000 lbs, then the F18 has to dump fuel, and if they are still not below the 4,000 lbs "stores", then they have to start dumping weapons into the ocean. MOST amazing? Well the F35B model on a vertical landing is rated for 5,000 lbs (already better then a f18 on a USA super carrier using a cable trap). However, on the HMS Q, they are going to use rolling landings for the F35 B, this will add an additional 2,000 lbs of return stores (for a VERY good world class rating of 7,000 lbs total return stores (fuel + weapons). The result of this means they can add more fuel (or weapons) to the F35 B for each mission, and do not have to SUPER EXACT match the payloads to the given mission. This will increase mission "stay on time", and just over all general force projection since they are now free to load up the F35 with lots of fuel and weapons as they please. The F35 B is really the first VSTOL fighter jet without the compromises of such past jets. So untreated roads, small ships, farmers barns. Question: How does a nation plan a defense strategy against the F35 B being able to be a stealth nuclear bomber, and being able to fly and be deployed even without long runways? It is impossible to to plan a counter strategy against stealth nuclear bombers that don't need conventional runways. Such a fighter can still be launched without conventional runways. It is thus the ultimate doomsday stealth able nuclear bomber. VSTOL is near impossible to plan against, but a supersonic stealth bomber with nuclear abilities is the worst nightmare of any military planner.
All the haters gonna hate - but the best Western pilots in the world who are checked out on F-35 all same the same thing. And every Country wants it - BAD.
@The Vengeance of Diana If the F16 still runs the show why does the F-35 have a 20/1 Kill/Loss ratio in exercises againt other NATO planes? In a combat situation the F16 barely stands a chance against the F-35. The F16 lacks stealth and technology, the F35s DAS System alone is superior to anything the F16 has in both air-air and air-ground capabilities. The F-35 also has the EOTS Electro-Optical Targeting System and OECM Offensive Countermeassures. The F-16 lacks all these features, even the F-22 lacks behind when it comes to sensors.
Fool Aid since when? To a certain degree maybe, but you should remember that the us won ww2 by quantity. And so did the soviet union. If you have 70-80% of the capabilities and well trained pilots as well as easy serviceable planes, im taking quantity. But nothing against the f-35. Its apparently coming down in price... supposedly being cheaper than the eurofighter. Id take it over the eurofighter...
It’s much cheaper for the Russian gov to pay basement dwellers in St Petersburg to talk shit online than it is for them to invest in building a comparable aeroplane
@@ThePorkchop1787 - It won't be a new variant, just some of the F-35 tech will be retro'd into the F-22. The next planes the U.S. will develop will be the B-21 and the F/A-XX air superiority fighter for the Navy.
They put 5 F-16's up against 1 F-35 and the F-35 had a target lock on all 5 before they knew what happened. When you can't see the enemy or find them on radar but, they know your every move. You lose!! You're welcome allies of the United States🇺🇸.......also, all 6 pilots were certified on both jets. Amazing!!
james heintz amazing until counter radar technology is developed to identify the IR signatures of the F35. Then they become redundant and obsolete as older cheaper fighters can out manuvere them
D 349 world: hat did you build guys? Turkey: its a turkey Russia: its stealth! World: must be, cant see it. Where is it? Russia: points to hanger. Inside.
It's a fitting tribute, for sure. I'll be sad when I see the inevitable story of the last AV-8B being retired by the U.S. I remember being absolutely fascinated by them as a kid when they had a show at a US Army base near where I grew up (they hosted equipment from all different branches for a public display).
Buy hundreds if you can. You'll be better able to secure India's interests in Pakistan, the Indian Ocean, the South China Sea, or anywhere else India needs it. I hope India's economy continues to grow well. All the best, -an American.
@@TomTheGamer913 Yeah but the US has a military budget many times larger than any other country on the planet, of course they'll be getting hundreds of them.
I only learned recently that the largest sapphire is no a jewelry gem stone, or even a watch face. It's a very thin layer on a stealth jets canopy. Transparent to light and infrared but opaque and reflective to radar. The sapphire is synthetic and applied as an ion bath onto the canopy in a special vacuum chamber. Sapphire is extremely abrasion resistant. Synthetic sapphire currently used for smart phone camera lenses and are starting to be made into entire display front glass for high end smart phones.
While the F-22 is an AWESOME aircraft and is the best at what it does, it is mainly a one trick pony in the fact that it was designed and built for one reason and that is for air superiority! When the US built the F-22 there were restrictions and the program had all the money it need for R/D. The F-35 on the other hand can perform just about every kind of mission you can think off. The F-35 is by far the most capable strike fighter in the world. So in other words, if you are a pilot and want to get into the action, then fly the F-35 because it will be used a lot more because it can do every kind of mission.
@@mississippirebel1409 What you say is true in every way, but Edward is correct that only American pilots get the F-22, will not sell to any other country as they are such a good air superiority aircraft.
@@mississippirebel1409 F-22 was designed to leap off of F-15C air superiority into what is called air dominance. Because of the synergy of multiple technologies, the F-22 is actually world class at other things including: Penetration/strike ISR AWACS CAS EW
YoloPixels Probably had a bit of cashflow coming in from assisting Lockheed Martin in the design and manufacture - allies have helped out immensely too!
UK laid down much of the DFLCS testing in the VAAC Harrier, provided X-35 test pilots, and manufactures critical systems for the JSF-B, including the Rolls Royce lift fan.
@@magecraft2 though it might not be relevant, stealth is often about targeting rather than spotting. A burst of data will tell people your there but not allow them to shoot a missile at you.
The f35 has directional antennas, and computers reduce the signal strength. And with extra computer power the data is compressed. So it does everything it can to reduce "EM" out out. However foes against the f35 are attempting to cook up means to detect such communication. So such communication can give away that stealth jets are lurking in the air battle theatre.
Albertkallal - That kind of technology is a long ways off and still wouldn't be able to give the enemy a chance to actually track and lock on to the F-35/F-22. All it might be able to do is to warn the enemy tha there might be a stealth aircraft in an area (a large area).
Kaj, Kalle, Arnljot Haarberg isn't it joint op? Dependent on the variant like the E variant and the new Japanese Fleet are requesting some, all for the HMS Elizabeth joint exercise in Japan?
Kaj, Kalle, Arnljot Haarberg ahhh that might be it yeah! I will need to look into it more, usually though military contracts are quite convoluted on the internet as design - implementation changes a hell of a lot and the old information is ran as the know, when politics gets into it that doesnt help like the HMS QE is set to carry 18 F-35 however the max load online is between 42 - 50 exact figures aren't fully aware as commitment to purchase is totally different to how the program is distributed such as: What model, will they be launched from ski ramp, straight or would you want vertical take off or would the RAF be in main command of the jet and get to choose the loadouts for majority of the aircraft and stations?
@@flaggnerd The Italian are assembling some, the Japanese some. Most in the US of course. The UK is building 15% of the parts. Lockheed is the prime, but BAE for example is building more than 10% of it (some of which is BAE in the US). Defence industries are so intergrated now.
Cameron Gunn it’s about keeping up with the advancements in technology potential enemy’s may make so we keep an advantage, can’t help the fact top spec tech is expensive
How do you figure that? It's equivalent to fourth generation platforms in cost and that will only get cheaper. Especially with commonality of parts helping any logistics train. Plus, you don't have to buy a lot of other plane types for each strike package, which means it saves money.
@@danielwhyatt3278 I mean, it is slower, more expensive, has lower range, less maneuverable, and carries less armament. Unless you need it to take off from a aircraft carrier, you don’t want to get it.
@@blackfalcon1324 and that’s probably exactly what they want it for, UK has 2 modern carriers that they use very often for overseas affairs (less overseas military bases than the US)
@Blob B "but the RAF is in talks to also buy some F-35A." Incorrect. As it stands now the UK will probably have to cancel part of the proposed F-35B acquisition due to lack of money.
Damn that was well said explanation of f35b and some capabilities not some reporter trying to trash talk f35. People now are starting to understand what it's about.. as of February all software update has been done now giving f35 it's full flight controls and combat abilities. All that talk it couldn't turn slow climb lol never had it's full capable software. Turns were restricted to 7gs all kinds of stuff but now it's shine... God bless the 🇺🇸🇬🇧.
One question that woke me up last night. The vision from the F-35 cockpit. Isn't it more obscured by the bars in front and the bump behind? (Sorry, not a native speaker) The F-16 has a bubble💧canopy which, i assume, gives the pilot more visibility. Is this indeed the case? I wonder how pilots react to this.
The F-35 pilot can see through the aircraft, so canopy visibility is much less important. The front facing canopy gives more favourable aerodynamics compared to a bubble cockpit.
Like the prior comment, the f35 could have cardboard applied to the windscreen to completely block the view from inside with the naked eye. Good thing the pilots don’t rely on their naked eyes, they can literally look down and see what is under the f35. The hmd is on another level.
Steve Fowler - I’m confused. Were you a part of the engineering and mass construction of the jet? Don’t take it as an insult as I am genuinely interested to know.
@@VelocityFilmsCONo problem, if you are confused I am doing my job. I don't talk specifics in open forums...as I stated I am an Engineer who works for a large American defense contractor.
The helmet needs to be much lighter and more compact for pilot safety and comfort. Some stabilization for the neck might be helpful too. A large and heavy helmet is a potentially life threatening hazard if they ever need to eject. Pilot size and weight guidelines were made more strict because of this helmet, in order to mitigate the potential hazard.
The weight and height restrictions in regards to ejection seat have been removed. They re-worked the ejection profile, and thus restrictions are now removed. The helmet removes a huge hodge podge of dash instruments and also removes the hud. Furthermore, at night, most pilots have to wear night googles (over one eye - and switching to look at the dash is a huge pain. With F35 - no hud required, nor no night goggles - it all built in. Overall, you get far better pilot comfort and better SAS (situational awareness).
I think despite the looks, the Gen 3 helmets aren't any heavier than the old helmets. They are also custom made to each pilot's head shape, so they should 'feel' light.
Carbon fiber construction is very lightweight. Helmet inserts are custom-made for each pilot so they get a snug fit with minimal helmet-cueing deviation from G.
synystershreds no it would be ok you use a sippy cup like a kids drink bottle, at best it bounces around cockpit abit but for the millions it cost they could rig something up
No but it is full of bells and tricks. for example, it has a door that opens, and it spools out a drone at the end of a cable. This device can spoof radar, and with computing power can actually fake radar images (it can even fake a squad of fighters). And if all the counter measures fail, and a incoming missile is about to hit? Well, the drone then becomes what we call a "honey pot", and the incoming missile hits the drone at the end of the cable and not the F35. So, no lighter, but it has every other feature and option you can dream up, and some of the classified features are even more amazing!
The brits had just as much to do with the F-35b, if not more, than its parent US manufacturer. For example, the short or vertical take off and landing system, which the entire F-35 program was built around, was based on proven British (and some degree Russian) technology.
Gerard Well just don’t allow your countrymen & women to claim a country is stealing IP if they’ve been sent the documentation “from the top” on how to make it...
Gerard Political beliefs? Nothing political about it, you’re just introducing irrelevant info for diversion. Facts of the matter is the F-35 project is called just that because it is allied defence working on the JOINT strike fighter.
@@roblockhart6104 Incorrect. Lockheed holds the patent for the lift fan/clutch/shaft design. Rolls Royce participated in the development with a number of other manufacturers. The swivel nozzle is a refinement of the one that was on the Convair 200. Flight test data was purchased from Yakovlev but the 141 utilized a different lift system. The Harrier's Pegasus utilized a completely different and inferior design - direct lift - as did the X-32.
Nice to see the trained professions not hesitating to do praise the aircraft. Correspondingly, the army of trolls have less ground to stand on and are slowing evaporating. Every country and receives them is very glad to have them.
Never understood why we didn’t purchase 30% of the total amount of F35s as the C variant! If it was down to me the Queen Lizzy and POW would have been made slightly larger with a catapult and 100% of the F35s purchased would have been Cs
I'm a bit concerned for the RAF acquiring 'Fat Amy'. She's not stealthy in profile, hence the nickname. She can't go far without refueling. She's unstable in Mach 1+ regimes. The 35yo F-16 flies circles around her still in anything but BVR engagements. Russian IR targetting loves that big tail nozzle. She's a sitting duck for anything with vectored thrust. Several other factoids out there, but they are still classified (so I am told.).
I believe they have Rolls Royce lift fans but do they/will they have Rolls jet engines fitted to them (like the British F4s and a few other aircraft like the C130)? Cheers.
@@stupidburp Rolls Royce is also the primary contractor and designer of the lift fan system. After all, who the heck has 50+ years of VSTOL know how? Why of course Rolls Royce. So, that contribution to the F35 model makes Rolls Royce a primary contractor for the F35 B model.
And look what the Rolls Royce Spey did for the Phantom: Delayed it by years, made it much more expensive and made it slower. Even though the Spey has more power than the J-79, modifications to the airframe necessary to allow it to accept the larger Spey added more than enough drag to eat up the extra power. The Brits would have been much better off just accepting American engines in their American jet.
@@Mishn0 Putting the Rolls-Royce Spey turbofan into the Phantom wasn’t a bad idea: it provided more power, for less fuel (especially at low level), got rid of the distinctive smoke trails, and generally made the UK Phantom a quicker, slicker, longer-ranged beast especially at subsonic speeds (where fighters spend pretty much all their time).
Who the pilot??? He doesn't work for Lockheed Martin or the US Defense Department. I'm sure he's not going to trash the plane he's assigned to fly but he's definitely not getting anything from talking about it or as you say promoting it.
LMAO. F-35 haters first say that people should listen to the pilots, and how they hate the F-35. But when it turns out they actually love it, you flip 180 degrees lol
@Blob B They're about the same unit cost for the UK Typhoons. Typhoon is way more expensive than people think with limited production numbers. F-35B cost continues to go down as the irders go up. Typhoon doesn't even have the Captor E AESA, maybe because working with F-35s makes it unnecessary.
I hope this Brit Pilot has opened eyes of the EF, Typhoon lovers. In the hands of a Harrier pilot there’s no way you can tell me he’d lose to an EF, Rafale or even latest Russian jets. Why? Because the UK F-35 has STOVL & massive thrust vectoring that would be deadly in head to head dogfighting.
David Houseman Where did I say the pilot would use Thrust vectoring to stop momentum? I didn’t. Harrier Pilots both Brit/USMC used it strategically to avoid missiles & assist in dogfighting. That’s all I said. It’s a tool in tool bag.
Nobody is trying to get into WVR of each other nowadays even in Typhoons vs Flankers. That fight is all about BVR missile exchange, where the Meteor really makes the Flanker be very careful using maximum stand-off, which is hard because the Typhoon has a very small frontal RCS and world class acceleration into supersonic regime. Flankers must rely on countermeasures if they gets MAWS at all during missile terminal stage. After that, they're going to bug out if anyone survives because nobody wants to close into helmet-cued ASRAAM range, just as Typhoons don't want to close into helmet-cued R-73 range. F-35 totally changes this with unobserved approaches with kinematic advantage over its prey because it can choose when to accelerate into optimum supersonic separation speed for the most brutal No Escape Zone parameters on a poor sucker who doesn't see it coming. Any talks about dogfighting immediately tell me the conversation is based on no modern weapons on any of the fighters. Typhoons normally carry 4 AIM-120s or Meteors plus 2-4 ASRAAMS and will be in a 2-4 ship minimum. Flankers carry anywhere from 6-12 BVR & HMS-cued HOBS missiles. You want to set up a merge with that?
the problem with the f-35/f-22 is how new the technology is when radar even jet fighters first became a thing it took decades in order to get the perfect recipe and perfect the idea of a fighter "jet". These planes are so new and the technology is so new that they are bound to get to a point where they don't know how to implement it into the current demands of the active military. America has always wanted to take a first step in improving the tech knowing that it will take years for everything else to catch up to the needs of these aircraft its hard to see the purpose or reason for these new jets but I think giving it some time and possibly a new threat will show its true power and reason for being created, people need to remember that its not like KSP where you can test a new variant it takes years of programming, testing, and engineering in order to get these planes/carriers off the ground
Had an AV-8B been flying since 2014 ... we'd have had 96 crashes by now ... ANY CRASH results in a revision and has a DISCERNIBLE CAUSE; Harriers !?? Crashing SO often, few resulted in revisions. they were NORMAL. THINK about that.
Everytime i look at the F-35 it just gets more and more beautiful
Meh....For me it just gets more and more expensive......I like the B....But she is only a Dirt Dart...The fleet needs a CAP....Air Superiority
@@rpm1796 the argument is air superiority is just about information. The F35 denies it to the enemy via stealth and picks it up better than the enemy by it sensors. That make sit a boss CAP aircraft.
Once we've adapted the meteor it has the weapon advantage too.
@@rpm1796
I would take a f35 over a f22 ANY day.
And the F35 will wax the floor against the F22 any day of the week.
But why?
In the 1950’s everything was thought to center around speed. Even an f104 Starfighter (1958) can maintain supersonic flight without afterburners.
In the 29 dogfight kills during desert storm (1991), max speeds seen by fighters were Mach 1
Now of course the f22 has award winning kinetic performance, no doubt about it. From a raw performance point of view, the f22 really is impressive.
However, that performance is not going to rack up or increase kills in the battle theatre.
Tops on this list is that due to budget cuts, the f22 lacks “passive” systems to track aircraft. By “passive” we mean receiver only (non radar being sent out). This is where the f35 excels right now, and is a significant shortcoming of the f22.
Computer processing:
The f22 in its debut had a very good computer system. It is rated at 700 MIPS (700 million instructions per second).
There was plans to future upgrade the f22 with a 2000 mips processor. But the CPU used on the f22 is now long out of production.
But, remember Moore’s law in computing? Every 2 years we see computing power near doubling. While this doubling every two years don’t sound like much?
Well, place one grain of rice on the first square on a chess board. On the next square, place 2 grains of rice. And on the next square place 4 (so we have a total of 7 grains of rice).
Do the above for 64 squares. You wind up with 1 billion grains of rice by the 40th square. By the 64th square, you actually need 210 billion tons (not grains, but tons) of rice! That amount of rice would cover ALL of India with about 3 feet of rice!
The above means that the f22 has a really poor computer.
For comparison, a low cost budget smart phone with a snapdragon processor? Well, one CPU core is rated for 1400 MIPS. But you have 4 of them!!! (All in that $90 smartphone).
So, that smartphone has
5600 MIPS
F22 = 700 MIPS.
So, your cheapo smart phone has EIGHT times the computer power of the f22.
The F35 uses RISC based CPU’s built around IBM’s power PC chips. They are the same architecture and chips used at the Lawrence Livermore atomic labs to run computer atomic bomb simulations. And all of IBM’S advanced Artificial Intelligence systems also use this chip set from IBM.
Upgrades for the F35 central computer are to be rolled out next year - they will increase the computer power of the f35 by a WHOPPER 25 times (over what the f35 has now!!! And what the F35 ALREADY has is VERY good!!!).
Not only does the f22 lack computer power, but it also lacks high speed networking.
While a good many new fighter jets have passive (IRST) systems, they are mechanical scanned (a rotating mirror sends the input light and directs it to a sensor). Such sensors will tell you a fighter is say 35 degrees off the front of your jet. But you don’t know the speed, direction etc. And those systems have limited coverage (only front/forward looking for the jet).
You need speed, direction, and altitude to generate a weapons lock.
With 3 or more f35’s in the area, then just like 3 compass points or lines on a map, you can with computers triangle the location of the target. (You need 3 or more inputs).
Toss in a BIG dose of computer power?
Toss in some really amazing network commutation between the jets?
Well, you now get x,y,z position of that target. And if you do this over and over, then you now get a new set of x,y,z and thus compare it to the last set of data. Now you have the REALLY valuable information of speed and direction of that enemy. And you doing this WITHOUT radar to give yourself away.
And even MORE important is you need to be able to feed that data into the computers to generate a weapons grade solution.
F35 can use radar, DAS (which is IRST) or use the targeting pod on the front (which is also an IRST + targeting system for air to ground).
However, you have NOT turned on your radar to give yourself away.
So, 3 F35’s approaching some f22’s will:
See, track, display and build weapons grade firing solitons against the f22’s.
And all of this will occur without radar.
The f22?
Blind as a bat.
It will not see, track or be able to deploy its weapons on the F35.
The f35 will simple fire away and shoot down those f22’s like fish in a barrel.
The f22 on board systems are outdated.
And what makes the f35 so deadly is its software. A phone without software is of little use. With software, it becomes near magic.
So what else does the F35 do with all that computing power?
Well, the DAS system (distributed Aperture system) is 6 high resolution high quality solid state cameras mounted around the F35. So, like a graphics card in reverse to make a 3d game? Well, this system takes that input, and provides the pilot with 360 views. It allows the pilot to look right thought the floor (and that is a HUGE blind spot for fighter pilots).
So, you put computers to work on those input cameras. The computers will detected mortar fire on the ground, or even when a tank is firing its gun! The computers can process the camera input in real time. Lockheed states that the F35 can detect tank and mortal fire on the ground at “considerable” distance. So, now the F35 can slew it weapons towards those ground targets.
And the computers also do full time real tracking of aircraft in all directions with this system. And go watch videos of HOW amazing zoom is on a distal camera - what the F35 has is even better and MORE sensitive.
In fact, the DAS tracking system will allow the F35 to compute and give a firing solution for a jet following it from the rear. That’s because unlike the f22, the F35 is not limited to JUST using radar for a firing solution. So, to fire at a jet following you requires rear facing radar! (But not with the F35).
So, radar in most jets is required for a firing solution. When the missile leaves the rails, it is NOT the missile that navigates to the target, but the fighter provides computers and radar that manages the first part of the missile flight. When the missile gets close to the target then the missile own radar and tracking takes over.
And keep in mind that even during war games, the instant you turn on your radar is the instant you just turned your jet into a HUGE giant lighthouse of a target - stealth will not help so much. Look at me, I am here! Come and follow my powerful radar beam right to me!!! Stealth or not - you just given yourself away.
The air battle theatre is now becoming like submarine warfare. Run silent - don’t give yourself away.
And the F35 as even more tricks.
The f35 also has a door that opens, and it can spool out a mini drone at the end of a cable. Again, with computers, that deployed drone (at the end of a cable) can make fake radar signals. (Even fake a squadron of jets - even of different types). And this deployable drone can even become what we call a “honey pot”. If all of the amazing counter measures of the F35 fail, then the drone can give off a radar signal for the missile to hit the drone at the end of the cable and NOT the f35!
Right now? The f22 is hopelessly outgunned and outclassed by the F35.
The f22 has next to no means to see, find, track and MOST important generate a kill solution to shoot down the f35.
As much as I love the f22?
It don’t stand one hope of a chance to engage the f35.
@@Albertkallal That was actually a really interesting read, thank you :) One thing I find really amazing is if we translate what you say into the compatibility of the f-35 with other RAF assets e.g. Typhoon which from what I've read is the stealthiest (clean config) 4th Gen around allowing it to operate closer to the front, and send/receive data via link 16 with the f-35, then the typhoon becomes the weapons carrier due to it's large payload which can fire from longer ranges using meteor/latest brimstone variant etc whilst the f-35 does all the targeting magic. Pretty lethal combo. I've heard the f-22/typhoon combo is pretty nuts as well from a few exercises. Put all 3 together plus land/ship based radar/missile capability + AWACS and it starts getting unbelievable. I'd hate to be the one coding all that software haha.
@@Albertkallal great rice imagery, people don't really understand numbers instinctively.
UK+US Together For Ever!!
john Baldock except for that time the us kicked out the uk...
@@dr.strange8735 - Uhh, well nobody in the U.S. sees it that way. We generally see the U.K. as the one European ally that actually gives a crap about what's going on in the world and is willing to help.
Don't forget Australia
@@dr.strange8735 uk are our brothers
Amen, brother.
Lovely aircraft, flown by the BEST pilots in the world. I've got an urge for a Meze and another Aki Arms T-shirt now...... I miss the RAF.
Got tickets for Mom's on Friday 😂
Lol best pilot in the world... Come here to see the french military pilotes on the Rafale combat plane.
The french 😂😂😂
@@93200Jonas Are you saying the Rarale could beat an F-35 Flown by an English Pilot? Really?
That American fighter jet looks good with RAF roundels on it.
As a yank, Im proud to see it. 👍
The Star of David also looks cool on the IAF F35s
UK was instrumental in the development of the DFLCS for JSF-B with the VAAC Harrier and X-35 test program, with Rolls Royce making the lift fan. They've been in on it from the ground level as partners with the US.
It's a joint development with the UK involved lad.
The F-35 is not just American you know, from day one the UK was part of the YF-35 project, the F-35 is basically a UK - US Designed and built jet, it was after the YF-35 won the contracted then other's cam in to the project.
This is the UK's technology.
I was on a school trip in the Lake District, we were canoeing across a lake when we heard this sound in the distance, then two of these came over the hill, flew past us only a few hundred feet above. Even though I knew we were on the same side it was still terrifying due to the speed and noise. God knows how scary it must be for anyone who’s seen as an enemy to these machines
Are you British or a fellow American? Just curious. The most insane thing I've ever seen is the original F117 and B2 flying. I was in PE class in highschool and one of each flew over for an air show here at the local airport. They both looked like they were from outer space in person
I think adversaries dont realise so many american and british pilots have combat experience in hostile airspace and how much experiencing that pressure counts
Nothing beats experiencing the real thing, and pilots that have are most likely much better afterwards than they where before
As a Brit it's a privelege to see our great pilots taking to the skies and defending our allied nations in such an aircraft. The F-35B compliments our Typhoon aircraft to give us a well rounded defense/attack capability and we are grateful to the US for sharing such technology with the UK.
As far as I'm concerned, you guys are entitled to anything and everything we have. We're family and I wouldn't have it differently.
@@jonathanbaird8109 Appreciate that. Our countries and our allies have to stay closer than ever with the evil that's rising in the world.
I would say only UK and AUstralia haha.
I would say only UK and AUstralia haha, they always have our backs, even in Vietnam, Australia sent 50k troops. They can get everything we get.
I would say only UK and AUstralia haha, they always have our backs, even in Vietnam, Australia sent 50k troops. They can get everything we get.
Love the F-35 just wish it didn’t have a side stick lol,
Congrats RAF and looking forward to seeing them in RAAF service
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My dude. Sidestick is the way to go. You gotta free up some space between your legs depending on the JOB.
Seriously hoping I can work with these one day
Same
same. I'm working to join the RAF in the next 2-3 years and flying a plane like this would be amazing. Hopefully that 130+ purchase goes through.
I am hoping you can too
Seems the world's main response so far is to dream up imaginary paper weapons to combat it. In the meantime this is real and in their face. It's a massive upgrade. I wouldn't want to be flying for the red team at the moment.
Red team has also been upgrading, gradually replacing terrible obsolete fighters with mediocre to okay new fighters. This may not seem like much of a worry, but keep in mind these are large quantities. As good as the F-35 is, it still has a very limited weapons load and can only engage small numbers of hostiles. Ideally stealth fighters should be backed up with high end balanced fighters with large external weapons stores. Fortunately the UK has Typhoons to do just that.
@@stupidburp F-35 has a very competent combat load, and can mount external weapons in needed as well giving it one of the largest combat loads in the world.
Hundreds of F-35's are being built, and are high in number.
The US also has around 3x as many fighter jets that are more advanced
Stu Bur - Russia isn't producing a lot of fighters and isn't going to because they can't afford to. Right now Russia only has around 800 fighters (Mig 29, Mig 35, Su 30, Su 35). I'm not sure how many fighters the UK Air Force and Navy has, but the US has ordered around 2,000 F-35s! Right now the US has around 190 F-22s, 451 F-15 C and E models, 943 F-16's, 200 F-35A, 57 F-35B, 21 F-35C, 512 F-18 Super Hornets, 540 F-18's. That's almost 3,000 active fighters that the US has right now that can be used. Even when the F-35 fleet has replaced the F-16's and the F-18's (not the Super Hornets), the US will still have a LOT more fighters than Russia could hope to have..
@@mississippirebel1409 Red team includes more than Just Russia. Both Russia and China have recently placed large orders for new fighters. The plans for the USAF are not firm orders, only about 500 F-35 are under firm order so far for example and even getting up to that number is going to take years. There is also the concern that Red team will likely not engage the USA directly but instead attack allies who are far less capable of self defense. This then could hurt US interests in various ways.
@@stupidburp
But for external weapons load outs, the F35 is the best choice. Try these numbers for a nice shock!!!
F16 - 20,000 lbs
Typhoon - 27,800 lbs
F18 - 28,900 lbs
Rafael - 31,300 lbs
Su57 - 37,320 lbs
F15 - 40,000 lbs
F35 - 49,540 lbs
Above figures are max takeoff - empty weight.
Even if you take max combat loads, the F35 is certainly at the top here, not “limited”.
What legacy fighter are you suggesting that has better payloads? In addtion, the F35 has huge internal fuel loads, so the wing pylons are now avaiable for EVEN MORE weapons.
When you look at a car driving down the street, do you see a bunch of extra gas cans on top?
Well,with fighter jets, you ALWAYS, but near ALWAYS ALWAYS see extra fuel tanks. The are so small as to be use-less.
But,the F35 changes this rule!!!!
Fuel loads by common fighters:
Fuel load:
F16 - 7000 lbs
Love how he's a former harrier pilot as well ❤❤❤
Still remeber watching the PBS episode where Lockheed went head to head with Boeing to see who had the best design and capability to build the next gen fighter.
Amazing to see where this thing is at now
Boeing airplane was ugly, very very ugly.
@@masterdeere
Yes - ugly is being kind! But an interesting jet nevertheless.
@@Albertkallal they wanted to save money using a single module for both wings. They shot themselves in the foot with that because they had to place the air intake for the vertical takeoff in the front for that reason. That cause a lot of safety issue, the first one being hot air from the jet entering in the front when landing and causing the engine to stall.
@@masterdeere
Yes, you even see Harriers tend to rather strong cut their power when landing on ship decks. Think of when you turn on a kitchen faucet. The water streams down, and when it hits the bottom, it spreads out. So a layer of hot air starts to "build up" on the deck. If the engines digest this hot air, then you can get a compressor stall, and the hotter air also has less O2. Both are bad.
The Harrier has a 150 gallon water tank on board. This water injection is turned on during hover. However, the tank only allows for 90 seconds of hover. At air shows, we have seen Harriers hover for say 3 even 4 minutes. They can do this if the weather is not too hot, and of course they have no weapons and VERY light fuel loads. edit: The water inject system keeps the Harrier engine from overheating, but also increases thrust of the engine since the water makes the air "more" dense when vaporized, and thus increases thrust. But that 150 gallons runs out after 90 seconds.
The F35 is far better in this regards. First up, the cold air fan is pushing down a huge amount of wash that mixes in with the rear (hot) down thrust. Lockheed states that the Harrier when landing on cement can cause such rapid changes, that some bits can actually explode. Lockheed engineers state that the F35 actually puts down less heat (hot spots) then the Harrier and actually prevents hits deck overheating issue. So while decks should have heat treatment, the F35 is claimed by Lockheed to be less harm and heat on decks then is the Harrier.
The other VERY but VERY significant issue is that behind the lift fan, an 2nd set of doors open to pull air from the top of the jet. And the front intakes are restricted (there are doors in the front intakes that close own air flow)
So, you see the F35 do in most cases a softer landing then Harriers, since the F35 is pulling most of the cold air from the top of the jet, not the front like the Harrier.
The Boeing design while very interesting would have been a real challenge to deal with the hot air. The F35 along with the Rolls Royce designed and built lift fan is really the way to go. And Rolls Royce has and had 40+ years of experience with the Harrier - so they were the best choice to get involved in the F35 VSTOL systems.
The often quoted "myth" about the F35 is how it is oh so much harder and throws down more hot spots on ship decks. It is another one of MANY false rumors we read about the F35 on a near daily basis.
@@masterdeere
The lift fan was the way to go, and one BIG reason was the lifting ability. All VSTOL jets have LIMITED payloads, and tend not to be able to fly fast. The F35 and the lift fan is a game changer. The HMS Q would be really hampered with ANYTHING else then the amazing Rolls Royce lift fan system.
It allows about double the payload of the Harrier.
It gets even better!!!
We all know and love the Harrier, but the ocean floor it littered with un-used bombs, since the Harrier often has to dump fuel, and even weapons before landing on a ship.
The F35? Well, bombs are expensive now, so you can't have a system that assumes you can just throw away some missiles or bombs to land on a ship.
A f18 landing on a USA super carrier is rated for 4,000 lbs return stores. If payloads are over 4,000 lbs, then the F18 has to dump fuel, and if they are still not below the 4,000 lbs "stores", then they have to start dumping weapons into the ocean.
MOST amazing? Well the F35B model on a vertical landing is rated for 5,000 lbs (already better then a f18 on a USA super carrier using a cable trap). However, on the HMS Q, they are going to use rolling landings for the F35 B, this will add an additional 2,000 lbs of return stores (for a VERY good world class rating of 7,000 lbs total return stores (fuel + weapons).
The result of this means they can add more fuel (or weapons) to the F35 B for each mission, and do not have to SUPER EXACT match the payloads to the given mission. This will increase mission "stay on time", and just over all general force projection since they are now free to load up the F35 with lots of fuel and weapons as they please. The F35 B is really the first VSTOL fighter jet without the compromises of such past jets. So untreated roads, small ships, farmers barns.
Question:
How does a nation plan a defense strategy against the F35 B being able to be a stealth nuclear bomber, and being able to fly and be deployed even without long runways? It is impossible to to plan a counter strategy against stealth nuclear bombers that don't need conventional runways. Such a fighter can still be launched without conventional runways. It is thus the ultimate doomsday stealth able nuclear bomber. VSTOL is near impossible to plan against, but a supersonic stealth bomber with nuclear abilities is the worst nightmare of any military planner.
The dream. The absolute dream. Nothing less.
if i wasn't scared of heights, i'd be flying the f35b. and, if i'm a billionaire, i'd have one in my garage
I love the British
No complaints here.
So happy to share our weapons with the UK, our brothers,
This plane went from being a joke to now most amazing thing in the world v quickly
To be honest. Most new military vehicles do.
True, so amazing it crashed in Japan.
Just a few software updates needed
@@elijahnoah Russian air craft crash by design in air shows specifically to crash into civilians :)
It never was a joke. It never had half the issues 4th gens suffered from. How many pilots have been killed during its dev cycle, none.
All the haters gonna hate - but the best Western pilots in the world who are checked out on F-35 all same the same thing. And every Country wants it - BAD.
have you flown one?
The Vengeance of Diana - I’m not sure why you’re commenting Diana 🤪
@The Vengeance of Diana If the F16 still runs the show why does the F-35 have a 20/1 Kill/Loss ratio in exercises againt other NATO planes? In a combat situation the F16 barely stands a chance against the F-35. The F16 lacks stealth and technology, the F35s DAS System alone is superior to anything the F16 has in both air-air and air-ground capabilities. The F-35 also has the EOTS Electro-Optical Targeting System and OECM Offensive Countermeassures. The F-16 lacks all these features, even the F-22 lacks behind when it comes to sensors.
The Vengeance of Diana Runs the show for the price? Maybe...
But you got to remember Quality>Quantity
Fool Aid since when?
To a certain degree maybe, but you should remember that the us won ww2 by quantity.
And so did the soviet union.
If you have 70-80% of the capabilities and well trained pilots as well as easy serviceable planes, im taking quantity.
But nothing against the f-35.
Its apparently coming down in price... supposedly being cheaper than the eurofighter.
Id take it over the eurofighter...
The engine of the F35 has a good sound.
We need tempest!!!😎✊🇬🇧
Tempest
It’s much cheaper for the Russian gov to pay basement dwellers in St Petersburg to talk shit online than it is for them to invest in building a comparable aeroplane
Great body, finish layer is perfect!
And wait for the upcoming upgraded F-22. Whole different world.
Wait, they're making an upgraded F-22?
Porkchop 17
Yes. The upgraded systems of the F-35 will be in the 22 with a few other upgrades.
Long Gray Line Ooooooh, Neat-O !!!😎
@@ThePorkchop1787 - It won't be a new variant, just some of the F-35 tech will be retro'd into the F-22. The next planes the U.S. will develop will be the B-21 and the F/A-XX air superiority fighter for the Navy.
The child that doesn't eat outside think it mummy is the best cook in the world. Lol
Lol
stunning aircraft
Look forward to seeing one in the mountains of Scotland
F35 is an alien toys..
...and all the evil nations are toy targets!
If the F-35 is the quarterback, then the C-5 is the offensive line. And the F-22 are the wide receivers. 😁
That would mean that the A-10 is the Marshawn Lynch of the group lol
@@justcolin83 That or it could be Lawrence Taylor, since it's role is purely for attack.
Colin Morris the head hunter !
No one apart from the US can get F-22s
They put 5 F-16's up against 1 F-35 and the F-35 had a target lock on all 5 before they knew what happened. When you can't see the enemy or find them on radar but, they know your every move. You lose!! You're welcome allies of the United States🇺🇸.......also, all 6 pilots were certified on both jets. Amazing!!
james heintz amazing until counter radar technology is developed to identify the IR signatures of the F35. Then they become redundant and obsolete as older cheaper fighters can out manuvere them
No doubt sir. It's all just a matter of time and technological advancement. For now though, she is the reigning champion.
james heintz very true! They bloody better be for the price lol
Professor Clutch glass half empty🥃
@@alexking671 F-35 works around and avoids threat sensor profiles elastically. No matter what you do, it sees first, fires first, jams first.
Enter the triggered Russians:
But but the Su-57 blah blah (insert Russian propaganda) blah blah turkey blah blah lemon.
Cayde turkey builds a turkey
Ahh, the feared Su-57. So scary they can't even find a proper engine to power it or a country to buy it.
D 349 world: hat did you build guys?
Turkey: its a turkey
Russia: its stealth!
World: must be, cant see it. Where is it?
Russia: points to hanger. Inside.
Those aren't triggered Russian "folks". Those are paid Russian (and Chinese) trolls carrying out missions of disinformation.
EagleOne its sad...
I remember a time when governments werent spending their ressources on ruining our bastion of freedom
Modern harrier in my eyes
It's a fitting tribute, for sure. I'll be sad when I see the inevitable story of the last AV-8B being retired by the U.S. I remember being absolutely fascinated by them as a kid when they had a show at a US Army base near where I grew up (they hosted equipment from all different branches for a public display).
As an American I want to see the RAF KICK ASS..........
This aircraft is primarily a night fighter. They train during the day though.
India needs at least 50 of this beauty.
Buy hundreds if you can. You'll be better able to secure India's interests in Pakistan, the Indian Ocean, the South China Sea, or anywhere else India needs it. I hope India's economy continues to grow well. All the best, -an American.
I'm afraid India won't be allowed them, too much contact with the Russian defence industry.
@@davidhouseman4328 that would be a terrible shame, India could use those planes.
Won’t happen.
@@mrsushihut India could use the domestic industry more. A good 4th gen jet built in India would be better long term.
I never stop be amazed at the way military people talk before the media. When I step into the f35 Ifeel like I step into the future...
The harrier could also do short take off and verticle landing
138 units? Wooooooow
Clyde Ceniza us getting like 600
@@TomTheGamer913 600 what? They going for 340 Bs, but thousands in total.
@@TomTheGamer913 Yeah but the US has a military budget many times larger than any other country on the planet, of course they'll be getting hundreds of them.
@@kimjonglongdong3158 THE US military budget is bigger than the gdp of my country
@@clydeceniza2521 and that doesn't even narrow your country down much. Theres only about 20 countries with a bigger GDP than it.
It's good to see Anglo/American cooperation!
We can do great things together!
God bless America 🇺🇸 and all the brave men and women keeping us safe at home so we can enjoy all the freedom's we have
The wings are a little small, if I had a choice I would choose the F22
Joseph Barnes smaller the wings the more maneuverable the bigger the aircraft is it becomes a huge target
As a person who studied aeronautical engineering, that is untrue, the F35 doesn't have the glide ratio of an F22, it may lead to more crashes
Joseph Barnes it’s pretty true you can study whatever but it’s common sense
Less radar signature.
F22 is not being exported from the US. It's too advanced to be shown to anyone else
Has it got a cannon
25MM GAU-12 internal
Do Ninjas with Predator cloaks, fused NVG Thermals, carrying 6.5 Grendel suppressed SBRs have fingernails?
I only learned recently that the largest sapphire is no a jewelry gem stone, or even a watch face. It's a very thin layer on a stealth jets canopy. Transparent to light and infrared but opaque and reflective to radar. The sapphire is synthetic and applied as an ion bath onto the canopy in a special vacuum chamber. Sapphire is extremely abrasion resistant. Synthetic sapphire currently used for smart phone camera lenses and are starting to be made into entire display front glass for high end smart phones.
I would feel more privledged flying the F22 Raptor.
Only American pilots can fly the F-22
While the F-22 is an AWESOME aircraft and is the best at what it does, it is mainly a one trick pony in the fact that it was designed and built for one reason and that is for air superiority! When the US built the F-22 there were restrictions and the program had all the money it need for R/D. The F-35 on the other hand can perform just about every kind of mission you can think off. The F-35 is by far the most capable strike fighter in the world.
So in other words, if you are a pilot and want to get into the action, then fly the F-35 because it will be used a lot more because it can do every kind of mission.
@@mississippirebel1409 What you say is true in every way, but Edward is correct that only American pilots get the F-22, will not sell to any other country as they are such a good air superiority aircraft.
You guys in the U.K. will get the Tempest eventually. Then we can be jealous on this side of the pond. ;)
@@mississippirebel1409 F-22 was designed to leap off of F-15C air superiority into what is called air dominance.
Because of the synergy of multiple technologies, the F-22 is actually world class at other things including:
Penetration/strike
ISR
AWACS
CAS
EW
They deserve so much more for the what they get
Americans and our British allies still putting together world leading technology
Impressive!
Honestly surprised us Britons didn't lose our budget buying these f35s
YoloPixels Probably had a bit of cashflow coming in from assisting Lockheed Martin in the design and manufacture - allies have helped out immensely too!
UK laid down much of the DFLCS testing in the VAAC Harrier, provided X-35 test pilots, and manufactures critical systems for the JSF-B, including the Rolls Royce lift fan.
plus some industry kickbacks or reductions, before T got in office.
These planes are coming in slow though. I think we get just 7 this year to add to what we already got
Let's hope it can take on the s400 when the time comes
Pretty sure it can handle a Mercedes s400 quite comfortably.
We are very happy to be working with our brothers and sisters in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧
F-35 or Typhoon... either would be incredible.
I want to fly in a typhoon, f15 or f16. I want to fight in a 22 or 35
I love it! Beautiful warbird!
All that money and you don’t even get a cigarette lighter
Excalibur be good name for aircr
some day I will fly this
I just wonder how the stealth and the info sharing works together? Or is it one or the other?
MADL or Multifunction Advanced Datalink operates even while preserving stealth characteristics.
@@robertm8401 Thanks just seems weird stealth and transmitting signals that is all :)
@@magecraft2 though it might not be relevant, stealth is often about targeting rather than spotting. A burst of data will tell people your there but not allow them to shoot a missile at you.
The f35 has directional antennas, and computers reduce the signal strength. And with extra computer power the data is compressed. So it does everything it can to reduce "EM" out out. However foes against the f35 are attempting to cook up means to detect such communication. So such communication can give away that stealth jets are lurking in the air battle theatre.
Albertkallal - That kind of technology is a long ways off and still wouldn't be able to give the enemy a chance to actually track and lock on to the F-35/F-22. All it might be able to do is to warn the enemy tha there might be a stealth aircraft in an area (a large area).
is there a budget to get our "Topgun" a new onesie? ;-)
Who is it made by?
Lockheed Martin in the US
Kaj, Kalle, Arnljot Haarberg isn't it joint op? Dependent on the variant like the E variant and the new Japanese Fleet are requesting some, all for the HMS Elizabeth joint exercise in Japan?
Some parts are built in other places, but the main assembly is done in the US
Kaj, Kalle, Arnljot Haarberg ahhh that might be it yeah! I will need to look into it more, usually though military contracts are quite convoluted on the internet as design - implementation changes a hell of a lot and the old information is ran as the know, when politics gets into it that doesnt help like the HMS QE is set to carry 18 F-35 however the max load online is between 42 - 50 exact figures aren't fully aware as commitment to purchase is totally different to how the program is distributed such as: What model, will they be launched from ski ramp, straight or would you want vertical take off or would the RAF be in main command of the jet and get to choose the loadouts for majority of the aircraft and stations?
@@flaggnerd The Italian are assembling some, the Japanese some. Most in the US of course. The UK is building 15% of the parts. Lockheed is the prime, but BAE for example is building more than 10% of it (some of which is BAE in the US). Defence industries are so intergrated now.
"Dambusters squadron"
More like bank-buster squadron
(For the record I support the use of the F-35, that was a joke )
Cameron Gunn it’s about keeping up with the advancements in technology potential enemy’s may make so we keep an advantage, can’t help the fact top spec tech is expensive
It costs pretty much the same as a Eurofighter Typhoon.
How do you figure that? It's equivalent to fourth generation platforms in cost and that will only get cheaper. Especially with commonality of parts helping any logistics train. Plus, you don't have to buy a lot of other plane types for each strike package, which means it saves money.
Why the RAF went for the B instead of the A is a little confusing.
Because it is TOTALLY COOL and can be used in more locations that's why.
@@danielwhyatt3278 I mean, it is slower, more expensive, has lower range, less maneuverable, and carries less armament. Unless you need it to take off from a aircraft carrier, you don’t want to get it.
@@blackfalcon1324 and that’s probably exactly what they want it for, UK has 2 modern carriers that they use very often for overseas affairs (less overseas military bases than the US)
Because it’s to replace the harrier for carrier operations. Why would the RAF need the A variant?
@@elijahmckenzie9207 you dont need supersonic in combat ive watched the f35c at lakenheath and there incredible the manoeuvrability is top notch
i know these will be great for the raf but maybe the navy will benefit a bit more with the B-variant with the new carriers coming into action
@@curtiswhyte3297 thought so
@Blob B the F35s are for the joint RAF/FAA Lightning force. They will fly from land or sea as appropriate.
@Blob B "but the RAF is in talks to also buy some F-35A."
Incorrect. As it stands now the UK will probably have to cancel part of the proposed F-35B acquisition due to lack of money.
Damn that was well said explanation of f35b and some capabilities not some reporter trying to trash talk f35. People now are starting to understand what it's about.. as of February all software update has been done now giving f35 it's full flight controls and combat abilities. All that talk it couldn't turn slow climb lol never had it's full capable software. Turns were restricted to 7gs all kinds of stuff but now it's shine... God bless the 🇺🇸🇬🇧.
One question that woke me up last night. The vision from the F-35 cockpit. Isn't it more obscured by the bars in front and the bump behind? (Sorry, not a native speaker) The F-16 has a bubble💧canopy which, i assume, gives the pilot more visibility. Is this indeed the case? I wonder how pilots react to this.
The F-35 pilot can see through the aircraft, so canopy visibility is much less important. The front facing canopy gives more favourable aerodynamics compared to a bubble cockpit.
Like the prior comment, the f35 could have cardboard applied to the windscreen to completely block the view from inside with the naked eye. Good thing the pilots don’t rely on their naked eyes, they can literally look down and see what is under the f35. The hmd is on another level.
UK 🤝 USA 2024 F-35
UK⚔️USA 1812 - 1815
Israel proved that this bird is more than capable.
Makes you think what they're dreaming up now
He is a very well spoken young man...glad he likes "my" jet (a PhD. Computer Engineer who works for a large American defense contractor.
Your jet?
@@VelocityFilmsCOI've got a lot of blood, sweat and tears in the 35 as it was...so yes.
Steve Fowler - I’m confused. Were you a part of the engineering and mass construction of the jet? Don’t take it as an insult as I am genuinely interested to know.
@@VelocityFilmsCONo problem, if you are confused I am doing my job. I don't talk specifics in open forums...as I stated I am an Engineer who works for a large American defense contractor.
Steve Fowler Did you actually bleed while designing this? Or just using the figure of speech?
Obvious question wing cmdr… how does it fly compared to the Harrier ?
The helmet needs to be much lighter and more compact for pilot safety and comfort. Some stabilization for the neck might be helpful too. A large and heavy helmet is a potentially life threatening hazard if they ever need to eject. Pilot size and weight guidelines were made more strict because of this helmet, in order to mitigate the potential hazard.
Frankly, I'd be more worried about my safety if I wasn't wearing it.
The weight and height restrictions in regards to ejection seat have been removed. They re-worked the ejection profile, and thus restrictions are now removed.
The helmet removes a huge hodge podge of dash instruments and also removes the hud. Furthermore, at night, most pilots have to wear night googles (over one eye - and switching to look at the dash is a huge pain. With F35 - no hud required, nor no night goggles - it all built in. Overall, you get far better pilot comfort and better SAS (situational awareness).
I think despite the looks, the Gen 3 helmets aren't any heavier than the old helmets. They are also custom made to each pilot's head shape, so they should 'feel' light.
That's an old myth. Except for the very frailest (female) pilots, the helmet is no hazard.
Carbon fiber construction is very lightweight. Helmet inserts are custom-made for each pilot so they get a snug fit with minimal helmet-cueing deviation from G.
Has it got a cup holder?
Your drink would get everywhere while doing maneuvers
synystershreds no it would be ok you use a sippy cup like a kids drink bottle, at best it bounces around cockpit abit but for the millions it cost they could rig something up
Does it come with a cigarette lighter as standard ?
No but it is full of bells and tricks.
for example, it has a door that opens, and it spools out a drone at the end of a cable. This device can spoof radar, and with computing power can actually fake radar images (it can even fake a squad of fighters). And if all the counter measures fail, and a incoming missile is about to hit? Well, the drone then becomes what we call a "honey pot", and the incoming missile hits the drone at the end of the cable and not the F35. So, no lighter, but it has every other feature and option you can dream up, and some of the classified features are even more amazing!
Obviously, how do you think they charge their sat navs?
MrTom1379 Big cigarette lighter on the back - called an Afterburner, and it has two as standard
Maybe the F35 can fix Brexit...😂
i'd use it to blow away those french fishing boats in uk waters.
Does it all work properly yet?
Nope, but enough of it works
They're operational in the Med and over Syria currently.
Interviewer sounds like Jackfrags!!
F-22 > F-35
YOU'RE WELCOME BRITAIN AND R.A.F
Love America
P.S. Thanks for the Country
The brits had just as much to do with the F-35b, if not more, than its parent US manufacturer. For example, the short or vertical take off and landing system, which the entire F-35 program was built around, was based on proven British (and some degree Russian) technology.
Australia builds quite a bit of the body and componentry on F-35
Gerard Well just don’t allow your countrymen & women to claim a country is stealing IP if they’ve been sent the documentation “from the top” on how to make it...
Gerard Political beliefs? Nothing political about it, you’re just introducing irrelevant info for diversion. Facts of the matter is the F-35 project is called just that because it is allied defence working on the JOINT strike fighter.
@@roblockhart6104 Incorrect. Lockheed holds the patent for the lift fan/clutch/shaft design. Rolls Royce participated in the development with a number of other manufacturers. The swivel nozzle is a refinement of the one that was on the Convair 200. Flight test data was purchased from Yakovlev but the 141 utilized a different lift system. The Harrier's Pegasus utilized a completely different and inferior design - direct lift - as did the X-32.
Iran, bring it on
Why is he wearing blue oyster trousers
All these foreign pilots must have creamed their pants when they got this jet...
Brown suit pala ang gamit ng mga combat pilots
Depends, the flight suits are usually OD Green.
@@robertm8401 uve seen some pilots in Afghanistan wearing brown suits
Elizabeth Armada Ok baliw! Brown suits in case they poop during high speed flight!😂
@@RoyalCaymanian hoy buwang....bakit naman sila eebak sa aircraft nila...mabaho yun
Elizabeth Armada special extractor fan and gas mask
AC7, F-35 still my favourite fighter jet.
intimidated adversaries inbound
Nice to see the trained professions not hesitating to do praise the aircraft. Correspondingly, the army of trolls have less ground to stand on and are slowing evaporating. Every country and receives them is very glad to have them.
Never understood why we didn’t purchase 30% of the total amount of F35s as the C variant! If it was down to me the Queen Lizzy and POW would have been made slightly larger with a catapult and 100% of the F35s purchased would have been Cs
@Blob B STOVL not VTOL
I'm a bit concerned for the RAF acquiring 'Fat Amy'. She's not stealthy in profile, hence the nickname. She can't go far without refueling. She's unstable in Mach 1+ regimes. The 35yo F-16 flies circles around her still in anything but BVR engagements. Russian IR targetting loves that big tail nozzle. She's a sitting duck for anything with vectored thrust. Several other factoids out there, but they are still classified (so I am told.).
I believe they have Rolls Royce lift fans but do they/will they have Rolls jet engines fitted to them (like the British F4s and a few other aircraft like the C130)? Cheers.
Doesn't look like, there was an alternative RR engine, but the US cut the funding on it.
The RR alternative engine has been shelved but RR did get the contract for primary maintenance on UK PW engines on behalf of PW.
@@stupidburp
Rolls Royce is also the primary contractor and designer of the lift fan system. After all, who the heck has 50+ years of VSTOL know how? Why of course Rolls Royce. So, that contribution to the F35 model makes Rolls Royce a primary contractor for the F35 B model.
And look what the Rolls Royce Spey did for the Phantom: Delayed it by years, made it much more expensive and made it slower. Even though the Spey has more power than the J-79, modifications to the airframe necessary to allow it to accept the larger Spey added more than enough drag to eat up the extra power. The Brits would have been much better off just accepting American engines in their American jet.
@@Mishn0 Putting the Rolls-Royce Spey turbofan into the Phantom wasn’t a bad idea: it provided more power, for less fuel (especially at low level), got rid of the distinctive smoke trails, and generally made the UK Phantom a quicker, slicker, longer-ranged beast especially at subsonic speeds (where fighters spend pretty much all their time).
From the guy who's job it is to promote it!
Who the pilot???
He doesn't work for Lockheed Martin or the US Defense Department.
I'm sure he's not going to trash the plane he's assigned to fly but he's definitely not getting anything from talking about it or as you say promoting it.
@@everydaycarry1328 That's a little nieve don't you think?
Pilots they always talk up what ever they are currently flying as the best they've ever experienced.
Given technology advances that makes perfect sense.
Even the pilots of the Boeing 737 max?
LMAO.
F-35 haters first say that people should listen to the pilots, and how they hate the F-35.
But when it turns out they actually love it, you flip 180 degrees lol
F35 is a lemon.
@@Kiwi_Dave Yes, which is why everyone is buying it, der
No offense but where are the young pilots
I know one thing you cannot be a hotdog pilot to fly the F 35 specially not at the price tag that it comes at!
@Blob B They're about the same unit cost for the UK Typhoons. Typhoon is way more expensive than people think with limited production numbers.
F-35B cost continues to go down as the irders go up. Typhoon doesn't even have the Captor E AESA, maybe because working with F-35s makes it unnecessary.
In the days when we had an Air Force (just thought I’d be first to say that). M.
When I hear 617 Squadron I don't picture the F-35. An old Mosquito Squadron would be more appropriate.
I hope their wood construction was more stealthy than a giant Lancaster.
Didn’t they fly Lancaster’s isn’t 617 the dambusters
@@vcvbrrory2269 The One and Only.
She is so HOT! Would be so cool to live near the Mach Loop!
hi M W...
who is a word - SHE -...
where is she live in and what her look alike
Yeah she is hot for sure...our nickname for the 35 is Our very lethal girl (a PhD. Engineer who works for a large American defense contractor.
@@bestamerica yes, she. Her name is Amy. Or at least that's what the pilots call her. Don't fat shame her it's 2023
Forces tv.......what else do u think he’s going to say.
In the cockpit with the screens, I see the F-35 as being the Tesla of the Air Force😂
I'd rather fly Typoon ..
Great video, good to see he's got a nice big green apple to snack on at 00:29, er and why does it look like hes lost the arse out of his flight suit?
x15adam thanks for that info, a mystery solved!
That's not an apple lol
@@welersonm.8212 - Oxygen tank?
It be better if it had 2 engines
But you'd get less of them.
I hope this Brit Pilot has opened eyes of the EF, Typhoon lovers. In the hands of a Harrier pilot there’s no way you can tell me he’d lose to an EF, Rafale or even latest Russian jets. Why? Because the UK F-35 has STOVL & massive thrust vectoring that would be deadly in head to head dogfighting.
You'd lose all your energy and be dead in the air if you tried to do that,
David Houseman Where did I say the pilot would use Thrust vectoring to stop momentum? I didn’t. Harrier Pilots both Brit/USMC used it strategically to avoid missiles & assist in dogfighting. That’s all I said. It’s a tool in tool bag.
@@Johnmk24 if your talking about Viffing, they didn't actual use it.
David Houseman Interesting that history channel includes T.V. as a tactic used by Harrier pilots. Let me guess you were a Harrier pilot? I think not.
Nobody is trying to get into WVR of each other nowadays even in Typhoons vs Flankers. That fight is all about BVR missile exchange, where the Meteor really makes the Flanker be very careful using maximum stand-off, which is hard because the Typhoon has a very small frontal RCS and world class acceleration into supersonic regime.
Flankers must rely on countermeasures if they gets MAWS at all during missile terminal stage.
After that, they're going to bug out if anyone survives because nobody wants to close into helmet-cued ASRAAM range, just as Typhoons don't want to close into helmet-cued R-73 range.
F-35 totally changes this with unobserved approaches with kinematic advantage over its prey because it can choose when to accelerate into optimum supersonic separation speed for the most brutal No Escape Zone parameters on a poor sucker who doesn't see it coming.
Any talks about dogfighting immediately tell me the conversation is based on no modern weapons on any of the fighters.
Typhoons normally carry 4 AIM-120s or Meteors plus 2-4 ASRAAMS and will be in a 2-4 ship minimum.
Flankers carry anywhere from 6-12 BVR & HMS-cued HOBS missiles. You want to set up a merge with that?
If it's the quarterback for American football, and the flyhalf for Rugby, what about other sports? Football - The deep lying playmaker (Pirlo esque)?
David Houseman it’s too clever for football..
@@mike3308 what about Cricket then? I kind of thought it was just the captain so not a good example. Hockey?
The analogy only applies to proper contact sports, not Wendy-ball.
@@MMG008 American football is not proper contact sport. Pads contact pads, men don't contact men.
David Houseman soccer is not a proper contact sport and all the diving, rolling around and crying is gay af.
How long will it last before been grounded again for more upgrades and also when will we have aircraft carriers with these planes what work.
the problem with the f-35/f-22 is how new the technology is when radar even jet fighters first became a thing it took decades in order to get the perfect recipe and perfect the idea of a fighter "jet". These planes are so new and the technology is so new that they are bound to get to a point where they don't know how to implement it into the current demands of the active military. America has always wanted to take a first step in improving the tech knowing that it will take years for everything else to catch up to the needs of these aircraft its hard to see the purpose or reason for these new jets but I think giving it some time and possibly a new threat will show its true power and reason for being created, people need to remember that its not like KSP where you can test a new variant it takes years of programming, testing, and engineering in order to get these planes/carriers off the ground
Had an AV-8B been flying since 2014 ... we'd have had 96 crashes by now ...
ANY CRASH results in a revision and has a DISCERNIBLE CAUSE; Harriers !??
Crashing SO often, few resulted in revisions. they were NORMAL. THINK about that.