I bought 5 homemade slime trackers from a guy on slimes official discord market and they work like a charm, since i dont live in america i had to order from someone in europe that resulted in a toll fee for around $100 extra, it still only cost me around $250-300 total. I rarely get any drift and they are very smooth, people think i use vives and are very surprised when i tell them i use slime, 100% recommend getting them Edit: it took 3 weeks from ordering and to get to my door
@@VickyViolet yeah, if you go to slimes official discord they have a marketplace for people who make their own trackers, i bought from a guy in norway because it was the closest to me but if you live in the US there are hundreds of other people who sell their trackers on the discord, i cant link it here on youtube but if you google you should be able to find the discord
@@VickyVioleti tried sending a discord link to slimes official server but youtube wont allow it :( Also looks like my other message disappeared so ill retype it. On slimes discord they have a marketplace for people who make and sell their own trackers, i got mine from a guy in norway, that was the closest to me but if you live somewhere else for example the US there are a bunch of other sellers more local. I would suggest looking over there and see if you find anyone close to you. Hope that helped :)
Nope. You always know when someone is using slimes or haritorax. Those trackers doesn't have any clue where the floor is and you're always floating around.
I can't believe my favorite comfort twitch streamer is back I can't wait to see you stream ON TWITCH in korea. I hope that twitch doesnt shut down in korea that would be bad
I am an owner of the Sony Mocopis and I have to say that I think it's still a good idea to get Slimes. I'm in the US and shipping time was about 2 days. but there is no way to get more trackers, slime and mocopi have around the same tracking quality but not as many points of tracking. Therefore you can't really bend your ankles, they drift frequently and in about a 2 hour play session I probably re-calibrate over 10 times. Maybe I'm just picky but I still think Slime is worth the wait. Hope this helps anyone! :)
There's only one good idea in 2024 = Vive Ultimate. IMU trackers are plain trash and base stations are now 100% useless after ultimate's release. Even the lighthouses loose tracking where ultimate's not.
@@simcoyote true, although you really can't use them at all if you get them as of right now. They aren't even usable with Steam VR yet. It would be great if they were and I would for sure buy them.
@@simcoyote as someone who has had the chance to use both 3.0s and ultimates, I find IMU trackers like slimes fascinating, particularly their ability to get occluded and still work ultimates are a pain to set up; best case scenario, they're like 3.0s but without the base station tax. however, if your room is plain, it doesn't work well, requiring redecoration or printing and hanging AR markers to get results. it is still inferior to base station tracking in fringe cases, like your tracker getting up against something. for mocap i welcomed the precision of optical trackers but for something like vrc, the comfiness of imus by not having to worry about occlusion sounds very appealing to me
@@horrorfan1978 Ultimate's & Quest3 was absolutely trainwreck combination. Returned both. I have tried Quest3 and 2x Pico4 during past year and returned all. Never going standalone again. Battery dies in the process trying to make the FBT work. Stutters all the time when using VD+SteamVR(4080 + stable 200mb AV1). Going to wait new Index or buy Pimax Crystal Light and setup ceiling cable management.
I have a switch. And like 20 joy cons. I recently figured out that you can use joy cons as imu trackers. So now I have 16 point trackers with only joycons. It works pretty well.
I got my Slimes less than a month ago, and have improved after the 4th time of using them. I don't have the space like the base station trackers require, so these work out well
Welcome back to doing videos again. Glad to see the move went well for you. I’m glad I’ve had the chance to meet you in VR as well as few times at events. Now you can beat up everyone at the meet up. :>
Yo twice! I really wanna thank you for being a HUGE part of my inspiration to be a vrchat youtuber one day,and is really cool to see you going back from the dead!
I recently bought Mocopi because of the update that lets it talk directly to a SlimeVR server. It's a decent alternative to waiting forever for Slimes (my Mocopi shipped in 3 days!), but honestly it's better to get Slimes so you don't get the lag of running the IMUs through another program before SlimeVR. I'm planning on getting a base set of Slimes and combining them with the Mocopi if possible, and I wish I'd gotten a full set of Slimes instead but I wasn't patient enough to wait that many months for my legs lol
also, the discord server has people that make them for you and sells them a lil cheaper, and ships them to ur house in a few weeks if u dont want to do the full wait time, and theres also a bunch of helpful people just in the server itself if u ever need help or have questions
3:47 BOBOVR is a good alternative. I purchased their M1 Plus headstrap because the stock strap broke apart and it’s must more ergonomic while being affordable. The cool thing about the M1, M2, and M3 plus headstraps is that the back has a small panel that can be removed with a screwdriver because you can install a battery pack that can be swapped out with magnets
I actually ordered the 5+1 around the time this video dropped. I just got them a few days ago in the mail! They’re amazing too. People were asking me in-game what I was using for FBT. The basic set up had them thinking it was Vive. 🔥
yeah the whole large wait time is so true i ordered mine just a bit over a year ago now and they still have yet to be shipped cant wait for them to eventually come though im sure the wait will be worthwhile!!
I actually started making trackers a few years ago, but I think the delay was also because of the chip shortage. I created my trackers with my brother and just left them, I picked them up recently and on boy, they are nice, I wanna make more but it will take time. So definitely worth the try it you don't want to wait for a long time
Loove my slimes, been dancing in em since 2023 fall ^^ DiY, and if done corrctly you can fool everyone. New ppl still think I am in lighthouses (see profile for proof Cartwheels weee ;) ) I am wearing 12 trackers every night, and the cost for all my 12 = 1 ONE vive tracker. Thanks for making this showcase ^^
Saw this video. I got my Slimes after waiting 2 years. While I still need to get the calibration right, seeing full body tracking in VR Chat for the first time has been so exciting. I look forward to using it more. I use Quest 2 Airlink with my PC and Slimes, so having a wireless full body set up on the affordable side is amazing. I personally think it's worth the money. Good news is that Slimes now should ship out faster. Plus I saw recently that Mocopi have an update that can work with Slime. Personally IMO the Slimes are better in tracking, but Mocopi is an option too. Maybe with more updates Mocopi tracking will improve. I'm happy with my Slimes and love them so far.
I’m still waiting on my slime trackers. Ordered them July 2023, was supposed to ship November 30. Delayed, supposed to ship January 31st, 2024. It’s been almost 3 weeks, but it’s coming from the Netherlands. If it doesn’t get here within the next 2 weeks, I’m jumping off a bridge 💀
I think this was a great review of the slimes. They are inexpensive, but there are still downsides, and I feel like you adequately expressed the downsides. I disagree with it being a good solution for people that can't afford Vive trackers, since you can get a minimal setup for $660 new or cheaper used through people selling entire sets. It isn't "the cheap solution" like getting an RTX 3060 or something. It actually has significant downsides, mainly in the setup process, which are shared between DIY and Production. They are entirely different solutions and there's a reason the Vive trackers are more expensive.
I hope that by the open source community and the slime developers watching this video, they can work on improving the drift issue and simplify the setup process
No because one of my friends uses slime vr but when we like dance together or smt you can litteraly see how shitty theirs is, maybe it's because it's not calibrated or set right but you can still see a huge difference. Personally if i didn't have my vive trackers i would never go for slimevr just because it's annoying to setup, takes time and is kinda shitty. idk abt other people's expierence but i would rather save up for vive
super excited for the future of ime tracking but if im being real the drifting issues are scaring me off tbh esp since im already dealing with controller drift
I've been thinking more and more about the future of FBT, and the more i think about it, the more i think we should go back to basics, with cameras with depth sensor like the xbox kinect, and do a GOOD revision of that, maybe add another camera or two to get more points of vision to compliment the tracking of the main camera and improve accuracy, a simple setup once forget about it solution, maybe use simple multicolored straps to determine which part is front/back/left/right now that we have software that allows for image recognition on the fly. Instead of all these spaghetti abominations that you need a quantum physics degree to setup.
This is kind of why I am excited for the Vive Ultimate Trackers. Though yes, I agree. Heck, even if we went back to camera-based constellation tracking. We never got a chance to see what FBT could be like on Oculus' constellation tracking.
You get what you pay for, but not necessarily what you wait for. Yes the shipping times are always improving, so one day they might be fully worth it, but after several months of waiting, I feel like I should've just saved for vives. Some people are able to make them work really well, but after a few hours a day for a full week of trying to calibrate and adjust them, realizing how finnicky and difficult to just 'use' they really are, I don't think FBT is something worth budgeting on. It taught me that no FBT is better than mediocre FBT; you'll be wrestling with calibration, adjustment, and dialing in proportions more than you will be enjoying them.
I really love slimes but the really long wait times are a big no from me, 4 months is a long time. Mocopi cost more and seem to track worse but 2 day shipping from retailers is really nice
I'm not in the vr space but for motion controls in general I can't wait until we get back to the IMU + autoreset via fixed base thing that the wii pioneered. do they have a patent on that shit???? it sounds really easy where the fuck did it go???
pfft.. still expensive. poor wigglers like me..been trying to get an quest 2 off ebay for under 200..since last year. and the cheapest tracker cost 195? well naw.. WELP! guess ill just keep watching videos Good video uploader.. keep it up!
so what I'm hearin' is SlimeVR is a good choice for someone on a budget, but if you want more accuracy and overall better quality, then you'll just get the high-ass Vive thingies. Thanks for the video.
I am wondering on the website I can see the full body set having 7 trackers but you have 8 in your video 2 elbows, 2 knees, chest and hit. Or am I missing something here?
I bought 5 homemade slime trackers from a guy on slimes official discord market and they work like a charm, since i dont live in america i had to order from someone in europe that resulted in a toll fee for around $100 extra, it still only cost me around $250-300 total. I rarely get any drift and they are very smooth, people think i use vives and are very surprised when i tell them i use slime, 100% recommend getting them
Edit: it took 3 weeks from ordering and to get to my door
Do you remember the who you ordered them from? 👀
@@VickyViolet yeah, if you go to slimes official discord they have a marketplace for people who make their own trackers, i bought from a guy in norway because it was the closest to me but if you live in the US there are hundreds of other people who sell their trackers on the discord, i cant link it here on youtube but if you google you should be able to find the discord
@@VickyVioleti tried sending a discord link to slimes official server but youtube wont allow it :(
Also looks like my other message disappeared so ill retype it.
On slimes discord they have a marketplace for people who make and sell their own trackers, i got mine from a guy in norway, that was the closest to me but if you live somewhere else for example the US there are a bunch of other sellers more local. I would suggest looking over there and see if you find anyone close to you.
Hope that helped :)
Nope. You always know when someone is using slimes or haritorax. Those trackers doesn't have any clue where the floor is and you're always floating around.
@@simcoyote not like that for everyone bud
0:25 I can’t escape
I can't believe my favorite comfort twitch streamer is back I can't wait to see you stream ON TWITCH in korea. I hope that twitch doesnt shut down in korea that would be bad
That face says it all lol
holy shit it's monkey man
I saw Tahvo talk about the slime trackers also, tbh might buy
I am an owner of the Sony Mocopis and I have to say that I think it's still a good idea to get Slimes. I'm in the US and shipping time was about 2 days. but there is no way to get more trackers, slime and mocopi have around the same tracking quality but not as many points of tracking. Therefore you can't really bend your ankles, they drift frequently and in about a 2 hour play session I probably re-calibrate over 10 times. Maybe I'm just picky but I still think Slime is worth the wait. Hope this helps anyone! :)
There's only one good idea in 2024 = Vive Ultimate. IMU trackers are plain trash and base stations are now 100% useless after ultimate's release. Even the lighthouses loose tracking where ultimate's not.
@@simcoyote true, although you really can't use them at all if you get them as of right now. They aren't even usable with Steam VR yet. It would be great if they were and I would for sure buy them.
@@simcoyotei'm sure they're great quality-wise, but that's a huge cost. i'm of the opinion these sorts of things should be more accessible, not less.
@@simcoyote as someone who has had the chance to use both 3.0s and ultimates, I find IMU trackers like slimes fascinating, particularly their ability to get occluded and still work
ultimates are a pain to set up; best case scenario, they're like 3.0s but without the base station tax. however, if your room is plain, it doesn't work well, requiring redecoration or printing and hanging AR markers to get results. it is still inferior to base station tracking in fringe cases, like your tracker getting up against something.
for mocap i welcomed the precision of optical trackers but for something like vrc, the comfiness of imus by not having to worry about occlusion sounds very appealing to me
@@horrorfan1978 Ultimate's & Quest3 was absolutely trainwreck combination. Returned both. I have tried Quest3 and 2x Pico4 during past year and returned all. Never going standalone again. Battery dies in the process trying to make the FBT work. Stutters all the time when using VD+SteamVR(4080 + stable 200mb AV1). Going to wait new Index or buy Pimax Crystal Light and setup ceiling cable management.
I have a switch. And like 20 joy cons. I recently figured out that you can use joy cons as imu trackers. So now I have 16 point trackers with only joycons. It works pretty well.
must take forever to put those on
Okay yeah that’s cool and all but 20 JOYCONS??
epic
I have like 10 joy cons and 4 work
I got my Slimes less than a month ago, and have improved after the 4th time of using them. I don't have the space like the base station trackers require, so these work out well
Glad you're back dork! Can't wait to see you in game again, honestly been missing you
Wow I love how they fixed every single thing you said that was bad about the software, what an amazing company fr
Welcome back to doing videos again. Glad to see the move went well for you. I’m glad I’ve had the chance to meet you in VR as well as few times at events. Now you can beat up everyone at the meet up. :>
Yo twice! I really wanna thank you for being a HUGE part of my inspiration to be a vrchat youtuber one day,and is really cool to see you going back from the dead!
I recently bought Mocopi because of the update that lets it talk directly to a SlimeVR server. It's a decent alternative to waiting forever for Slimes (my Mocopi shipped in 3 days!), but honestly it's better to get Slimes so you don't get the lag of running the IMUs through another program before SlimeVR. I'm planning on getting a base set of Slimes and combining them with the Mocopi if possible, and I wish I'd gotten a full set of Slimes instead but I wasn't patient enough to wait that many months for my legs lol
TWICE IS BACK 🎉🎉🎉
Another one!! I use joycons and a phone as "DIY" slime trackers. and even the tracking quality on it is fine... somehow
Dang its really badass having your own FBT trackers
How?
the return
Silly blue guy
The return of the biggest goat at vrchat content creation
also, the discord server has people that make them for you and sells them a lil cheaper, and ships them to ur house in a few weeks if u dont want to do the full wait time, and theres also a bunch of helpful people just in the server itself if u ever need help or have questions
Glad you like the trackers! The software will keep getting better; it's not even at v1.0 yet :3
WELCOME BACK KING
and great video! :D
Found your channel while you were on hiatus, just wanna aay I love your content, man!
3:47 BOBOVR is a good alternative.
I purchased their M1 Plus headstrap because the stock strap broke apart and it’s must more ergonomic while being affordable. The cool thing about the M1, M2, and M3 plus headstraps is that the back has a small panel that can be removed with a screwdriver because you can install a battery pack that can be swapped out with magnets
Twice please come back we love your videos
I already wanted Slime, now I just want it more.
Also, your presentation here is amazing. Thank you for that.
holy guac TWICE HAS MADE A COMEBACK!!!
9 months! We miss you!
I actually ordered the 5+1 around the time this video dropped. I just got them a few days ago in the mail! They’re amazing too. People were asking me in-game what I was using for FBT. The basic set up had them thinking it was Vive. 🔥
@@alwaysyouramanda yessss
Missed you bro! Glad you’re back! Keep the content coming!
I ordered mine recently and supposed to be getting them September 29th, my biggest fear is a chance of having to wait longer than intended XX
HE'S BACKKKKKKKK LET'S GOOOOOOOO TWICE YOUR BACK AGAIN FROM THE milk I MISSED YOU SO MUCH
welcome back :)
glad to have ya
12:18 a legend died
yeah the whole large wait time is so true i ordered mine just a bit over a year ago now and they still have yet to be shipped cant wait for them to eventually come though im sure the wait will be worthwhile!!
my birthday is feb 6th, nice to see another feb person.
Great to see ya back man!
bro got assassinated 😭😭😭
I actually started making trackers a few years ago, but I think the delay was also because of the chip shortage. I created my trackers with my brother and just left them, I picked them up recently and on boy, they are nice, I wanna make more but it will take time.
So definitely worth the try it you don't want to wait for a long time
Loove my slimes, been dancing in em since 2023 fall ^^ DiY, and if done corrctly you can fool everyone. New ppl still think I am in lighthouses (see profile for proof Cartwheels weee ;) ) I am wearing 12 trackers every night, and the cost for all my 12 = 1 ONE vive tracker. Thanks for making this showcase ^^
How did you get slimevr? They send them out in May
A friend builds em. DiY So just need to wait for parts :) combinging cheap BMI160 IMU with expencive BNO085 IMU ^^@@ladymonja
Glad to see you back, man! Hope I can make it to the meetup, but either way, happy birthday! 🎂🎈
My favorite TH-camr is back!
7:28 poor Yama😭Anyways cool vid Twice:))
THE KING RETURNS
LETS GO YOUR BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve missed you so much. Upload more.
Saw this video. I got my Slimes after waiting 2 years. While I still need to get the calibration right, seeing full body tracking in VR Chat for the first time has been so exciting. I look forward to using it more. I use Quest 2 Airlink with my PC and Slimes, so having a wireless full body set up on the affordable side is amazing. I personally think it's worth the money. Good news is that Slimes now should ship out faster. Plus I saw recently that Mocopi have an update that can work with Slime. Personally IMO the Slimes are better in tracking, but Mocopi is an option too. Maybe with more updates Mocopi tracking will improve. I'm happy with my Slimes and love them so far.
I know this is from like 2 months ago but if you look on the website for estimate dates, DO NOT. They are very inaccurate!!!!
THE KING IS BACK LETS GOOOOOO!!!!!
The four month wait is unfortunate as I would really like a set of these. hopefully the company is able to afford more help.
ahh i ordered mine last month! cant wait to get them
Wake up babe Twice uploaded
YOUR BACK🎉🎉✨
WELCOME BACKK
The amazing twice is back yippe
Your birthday is 6 days before mine! :D happy early birthday buddy.
That's where GreatMoonAroma lives
I just got mine today 😭
Man needs to cover babble and ETVR next (eye track vr and mouth tracking)
Aye glad your move went by smooth!
friend bought the slime trackers and now regrets when ever he bends his hip his feet go up no calibration can fix that
HE'S BACK YA'LL 🎊
I’m still waiting on my slime trackers.
Ordered them July 2023, was supposed to ship November 30.
Delayed, supposed to ship January 31st, 2024.
It’s been almost 3 weeks, but it’s coming from the Netherlands.
If it doesn’t get here within the next 2 weeks, I’m jumping off a bridge 💀
I want SlimeVR so badly omg
there is a tracker that self adjusts which trashes slime vr and you don't have to re adjust all
talk about the ultimate trackers on quest 2 plssssssssss
I think this was a great review of the slimes. They are inexpensive, but there are still downsides, and I feel like you adequately expressed the downsides. I disagree with it being a good solution for people that can't afford Vive trackers, since you can get a minimal setup for $660 new or cheaper used through people selling entire sets. It isn't "the cheap solution" like getting an RTX 3060 or something. It actually has significant downsides, mainly in the setup process, which are shared between DIY and Production. They are entirely different solutions and there's a reason the Vive trackers are more expensive.
hope you're doing okay its been so long
i pre ordered my slime on december 2021... still havent been shipped (:
what you visited Korea?! POGPOGPOG
I didn’t just visit, I LIVE HERE NOW 😎
Holy shit its the goat HIMSELF
Moon * Twice video when?
I hope that by the open source community and the slime developers watching this video, they can work on improving the drift issue and simplify the setup process
It has to be this way, since the trackers literally are pretty much guessing where your body is
Ayyyyy i also got mine a month ago and am happy to see me not being handicap 💀💀
welcome backkk
The king is back
No because one of my friends uses slime vr but when we like dance together or smt you can litteraly see how shitty theirs is, maybe it's because it's not calibrated or set right but you can still see a huge difference. Personally if i didn't have my vive trackers i would never go for slimevr just because it's annoying to setup, takes time and is kinda shitty. idk abt other people's expierence but i would rather save up for vive
super excited for the future of ime tracking
but if im being real the drifting issues are scaring me off tbh esp since im already dealing with controller drift
Which is better mocobi or these for standalone?
Have fun in Korea !
is korea too busy or why isnt he posting more
I've been thinking more and more about the future of FBT, and the more i think about it, the more i think we should go back to basics, with cameras with depth sensor like the xbox kinect, and do a GOOD revision of that, maybe add another camera or two to get more points of vision to compliment the tracking of the main camera and improve accuracy, a simple setup once forget about it solution, maybe use simple multicolored straps to determine which part is front/back/left/right now that we have software that allows for image recognition on the fly.
Instead of all these spaghetti abominations that you need a quantum physics degree to setup.
This is kind of why I am excited for the Vive Ultimate Trackers. Though yes, I agree. Heck, even if we went back to camera-based constellation tracking. We never got a chance to see what FBT could be like on Oculus' constellation tracking.
You get what you pay for, but not necessarily what you wait for. Yes the shipping times are always improving, so one day they might be fully worth it, but after several months of waiting, I feel like I should've just saved for vives. Some people are able to make them work really well, but after a few hours a day for a full week of trying to calibrate and adjust them, realizing how finnicky and difficult to just 'use' they really are, I don't think FBT is something worth budgeting on. It taught me that no FBT is better than mediocre FBT; you'll be wrestling with calibration, adjustment, and dialing in proportions more than you will be enjoying them.
quick question do you need a pc for slimevr?
I doubt you will even remember having made this comment 1 month later but yes, you do need a PC.
I really love slimes but the really long wait times are a big no from me, 4 months is a long time. Mocopi cost more and seem to track worse but 2 day shipping from retailers is really nice
Is that the soundtrack of the multi-billion dollar game Genshin Impact?
10:57 whats the avarar called with the burger king hat
welcome back gamer
I more wait for the VIVE Ultimate Tracker PCVR Support and Reviews to it ;)
I'm not in the vr space but for motion controls in general I can't wait until we get back to the
IMU + autoreset via fixed base thing that the wii pioneered.
do they have a patent on that shit???? it sounds really easy where the fuck did it go???
pfft.. still expensive.
poor wigglers like me..been trying to get an quest 2 off ebay for under 200..since last year.
and the cheapest tracker cost 195?
well naw.. WELP! guess ill just keep watching videos
Good video uploader.. keep it up!
so what I'm hearin' is SlimeVR is a good choice for someone on a budget, but if you want more accuracy and overall better quality, then you'll just get the high-ass Vive thingies.
Thanks for the video.
No, at this point slimes are almost indistinguishable
not really, ive been told that my trackers (SlimeVR Based) look far better than vive trackers. It all depends on how you set it up
Looking into HaritoraX Wireless.
Ordered mine in 2022 got mine in 2024. Thought I lost my money 😂
but when they die you cant charge all at the same time when you dont have 10 chargers?
video is so fire it fried my graphics card.. time to get a 4080!!!
I promise to improve the body assignment mirror view for 0.12, eat my words.
I might buy them, but I'm worried there's gonna be another massive delay and there'd be no point
They actually haven't had issues with that so far this year.
8:26 ESTONIA MENTIONED RAHHHGGGGG
I am wondering on the website I can see the full body set having 7 trackers but you have 8 in your video 2 elbows, 2 knees, chest and hit. Or am I missing something here?
can i ask where you found the avatar with the burger king crown?
HE UPLOADED
DAD???!!! Ur Alive???? LEAGOOOOO
In your opinion which is better, Slime or Mocopi???
What the hell you're in Korea now?? Damn bro hope you enjoy your stay here.
0:54 i see ESP32 inside
Do you have to do it from a PC or from a laptop? Just a question for people who can’t afford the top end
Do you still do content creation?