Fullbody Tracking - Everything you need to know
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Fullbody tracking is the next level of VR immersion, but it can be a bit difficult to wrap your head around actually getting it and what system is best for you. In this video, I cover all of the full body options on the market, talk about their strong suits and weaknesses, and give my recommendations on what will be the best fit for you.
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NeosVR
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LoL so the first one is the best one?
There should be no excuse over the fact that you're wearing a female avatar, typical
@@NoahtheAIPlayer you're a loser
I wasn't expecting "Full body might trans you so be careful" But, it is interesting hearing about your experience.
That's not exactly the message I was trying to get across haha, more so it can lead to a personality shift that might be jarring to some peoples minds and could be harmful in the wrong context, it has definitely made me more comfortable with my feminine side and really just being who I am at heart :)
ew@@BonelessVR
not trying to offend you but there is no way to not I guess... why do you feel that way? What's the point of wanting to experience the "feminine side"
femininity isn't wanting to be seen and having big hips, a man can also be emotionally intelligent with more empathy, not wanting to become the "warrior" type. but why do you like having a female avatar and act on this cuteness train. I really can't grasp why a guy would want that@@BonelessVR
@@DIRECTEDBYH Where did I say that I wanted or desired to experience that? And for that matter, where did I say that men can't act with empathy? I prefer what I prefer, as do others. I have seen too many people become drastically different after getting full body tracking, that is what this warning is about. If you don't have proper mental fortitude it has the very real possibility of harming you. Not only the possibility of making somebody feel differently about their real life body but also causing one of my dearest friends to develop multiple personality disorder. It is outright irresponsible to not give some sort of warning about it. And really, don't worry about offending me. This channel is about having an open dialogue that isn't limited by 'correctness.' Your comment is much better than the 'ew' found above lmao
Here's some more ramblings
Quick note about the character, she's just that. A recognizable character to both act as branding for the channel and represent my personality in the virtual space.
I am not trans, I am very much a biological male who is fully comfortable with that. However, full body gave me the ability to develop another side of myself that may not have been tapped into in other circumstances, it truly does change people. I have been more welcome to do things that todays societal norms would more so align with femininity, such as dyeing my hair and having pierced ears.
And to quell it before it starts, I don't 'hide' behind the avatar. I've shown my real face in videos before and will continue to do so, there simply wasn't a reason to do so in this video. I am obviously active in my own communities discord and at any moment any viewer of the channel is very welcome to join the vc that we all hang out in and will likely see my face on a call as I prefer hanging out with webcams on and talking face to face with my viewers, it's a really fun experience.
I am always open to criticism and feedback, comments like yours that poke and ponder are very very welcome! Cheers and looking forward to your reply!
@@theend4512 very helpful comment thx
standable is a really good option. I got it with lower expectations and it passed them with flying colors. glad someone is talking about it
Keep me updated! I'm glad people are finding it enjoyable!
Does it make any difference without base stations? Like if you are only using a quest 2 (linked to a PC to run, but again no light houses)
@@lizzydarkroseStandable doesn’t require base stations, it’s a program that predicts where your body will go. You can’t lift your legs or anything but you can lay down and move around. Then again, you won’t be able to take steps.
I swear Standable has only been getting better and better the more I use it. While I'm still aiming for a good set of Slime trackers, I'm quite satisfied for now with what Standable has to offer. God, looking left to right without moving your entire body is a feature I didn't know I needed.
Also, *beans.*
AYE thank you for watching! I'm really happy to hear how many people are loving Standable, it's such an unexpected shakeup to VR, things are heating back up!
Running owotrack on my phone and just throwing it into my hoodie puch as hip tracker and running the SlimeServer gives you not only beeing able to move head an body indepenant and not look stiff, you can also wiggle around you tail naturally, if your avatar has one. Pretty surreal expirience! Can really recommend it, setting up legs is a hassle with more phones, but just add tracking for the hip really ups the immersion for me like 200% when looking at a mirror.
You can look right and left with your right Controller Stick I thought? I know it's very annoying but with that it seems possible
@@pogney973OwOTrack doesn’t work for me for some reason. Tried Viso and I’m always floating. Standable has to be a last resort.
@@BonelessVRsorry for the late question but I don’t really understand if slime is better than vive trackers and idk how to set it up if I even get them
Nice to get a bit of insight into FBT from someone I've met a few people with it and never got much information thank you so much for making this video^^
Sometimes I troll and pretend not to have full body and just ask people for advice on getting full body. What I usually end up getting is a bunch of myths and misconceptions, so I'm happy to spread good info!
okay, the comment about gender in there was super nice. I've been looking for an additional layer to my immersion and FBT is probably what I've been looking for. Thanks for honestly covering all the current (and future) tracking options!! The tracker-less option seems really good and I think it'll be my way into a better VRC experience!! (beans)
Some people didn't really like my warning but It's a conversation that needs to be had. I've seen full body impact people in a negative way just as much as I've seen it impact them in a positive way. I think the worst case was a close friend of mine who ended up getting diagnosed with MPD and was advised by his psychologist to get rid of his VR gear. Let me know what you think about whatever you end up getting!
@@BonelessVR Thanks for that little note. I could totally see myself developing some sort of dysmorphia if I'm not careful about the avatars I latch onto lol
Imagine believing in gender
@@staggerdaggerGender exists. It’s a social construct sure, but conceptual things are very real.
@@staggerdagger
Non-binary & Agender people thriving after this
Thank you for the lovely video! As well as honesty. Full body was something I invested in in 2018 due to my chronic health issues limiting my ability to walk. I've had countless people ask in game "why would you get it when you're limited as is?", frankly: because it's immersive. I wish I could tell more users that it's not fair to determine who can and can't invest in it. Sure I can't stand often, but I love that I can express myself with movement. It's been amazing to see how accessible some options are these days. I've started doing short form vr filming with myself as a model, and goodness am I tempted to grab tundra trackers for my knees since the IK can't always predict knee placement bar them knowing which direction your feet are facing.
Everything in moderation 💕
I got this model made with this base specifically because it had the best IK I've ever felt in VR but yes the knees are always such a problem haha
Thank you for the support! Some people didn't like the warning at the end but story time:
I had a friend go down the VR wormhole and ended up getting diagnosed with some mental health things that lead his psychiatrist to recommend getting rid of his VR gear. It's really powerful, to the point that it can cause some problems.
I'd love to meet you in VRC one day! You sound super chill! My VRC name is _boneless_, feel free to add me!
One option I didn't know was possible is that you can mix vive/tundras with slime trackers! It makes it much cheaper to get the full degen pac- I mean 11-point tracking!
Ahaha, I am really excited to try Standable 2.0 with the mixed tracking, but to be honest the IK on my avatar is already so good that I'm not sure I'll notice any difference. Excited to give it a try though!
Degen pack 😭💀
@@xXAllTheWayTurntUpI mean is he wrong?
@@thebigm8052 no bc I might go that same direction 😭😭💀
@@xXAllTheWayTurntUp how many trackers do you even currently own 😭😭😭
When I explain the options of full body to people that ask, I always say there are three categories to full body.
1: The cheapest and not as good quality tracking; this would be your Viso and other apps that use your phone camera, owotrack, standible, webcam tracking, and the best of this category being Kinect 360. £0 - 30
2: Medium expense with pretty good quality tracking; This would be your Slime vr, Nyx, mocopi and haritoraX. £100 - £400
3: Super expensive with the BEST quality tracking; being tundra trackers, and Vive trackers. £1000+
That’s a very great way of breaking it down! I should’ve gone more into the ultra cheap options, granted since they are so affordable it isn’t off the table for me to try them out!
Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne! BEANS FOR THE ALGORITHM!!
AN OFFERING
Bro said “the same thing I use to erp with” 😂
Ive never wiggled my beans but having 4 vive trackers is incredible. Your final warning is the one I usually give people when they ask about FBT
Im not quite sure how to phrase this, but the script for this video was pretty well-written and i thought the editing was pretty damn good. This video was helpful as hell, i always wanted to go into a full-body setup but I'm /abysmally/ bad when it comes to tech. I really do need to get a proper PC, seems just the Quest by itself doesn't cut it-
You're fairly right about VR Chat just destroying your sleep schedule, ditto with it changing your personality traits overtime... It's wild to think about, but yeah, it really does change you, be it for better, worse, or a lil' bit of both
I actually use rift cv1 stations and controllers for FBT.
Pretty much base station tracking quality and if you are fine with a bit of jank setup etc you can get it for pretty cheap!
Battery life are like 30 hours or something aswell and can be swapped with any AA battery in seconds.
Can’t wait to see this!
AYO same
can the rift cv1 stations can connect with any vr headset?
@@gaso6072 no
If you have psvr controllers and the eye toy cameras from the ps3 you can use them for FBT as well just need several usb extensions
Someone in my server just showed me that the other day! One of the strangest but most functional tracking setups I’ve seen, super super cool
Beans and cheese
AYE thank you for watching!
The most immersive part of FBT is wiggling your beans at others.
A FURRY FRIEND
I got 11 point tracking 8 3.0 trackers and 4 base stations.
I love to dance when in VRchat its the main thing i do.
I can attest its really sensitive and costly to set up for deminishing returns for every trackers however you do get some hidden redundancy in your tracking accuracy which is handy.
When the timing is right I’d love to give 11 point a try! Just got my hands on good eye tracking, I think elbow tracking may be the next step :) would be really cool to do a side by side some day!
@@BonelessVR I just adjusted my set up and mixed in some Tundra Trackers for my arms and chest. They are great for your limbs they are way smaller and lighter than the 3.0 Vive Trackers.
This was by far the most informative video on full tracking i've seen. Thank you. PS, beans.
AYE thank you for watching! I'm glad it was helpful!
hear me out... mixing standable with imu tracking. you get best of both worlds. slimes have a tap to calibrate feature so all you would need is just the lower body set and to setup standable.
I’d love to see that
@@BonelessVR would be lowkey actually cool cause then we would only need 5 trackers pluss it would be extreamely cheap
I’m in the Standable discord and I’ve heard that Standable is going to add the ability to mix different forms of tracking. I’m really excited to use the mixing feature because I am a Standable user
@@BryXnQ if this is true im excited now
Thank you for the informative video, it was difficult finding a resource with this consolidated information that was easily digestible for someone unfamiliar but building out a game plan to get into VR and what's entailed. I def came out with a better understanding of what some of the options are. Worth a hill of beans.
Thank you for watching, I'll always do my best to make videos that are at the very least informative and digestible ahah. Let me know what you end up getting!
i really liked this video! as a trans woman, vr as a whole, and vrchat specifically have helped me become more comfortable with who i am, and full body trackers were a huge part of that. when i started seeing my avatar as fully me, it drastically helped to increase my immersion which helped me see myself as a feminine figure
I mean you arent a woman. Just a very feminine man. And thats okay. The idea that gender exists and that men and woman should dress or act a way is dumb. And to be a "trans" person is just enforcing such a dumb social practice
1:12 my kind of humor lolololol "it would only cost you, HUH" hahaha im dead
Thanks for this! I'm buying the Tundra trackers next week. I'll have at least 4 trackers.
Tundras setup looks so good, it’s tempting haha
I was going to note that I didn't think Beat Saber supported FBT natively, but looks like you corrected that. Otherwise, great video, and I hadn't known about the history of the pucks! And yeah, wires are certainly a thing to deal with if you are running 11pt, which is one reason I'm not doing it (amongst other reasons). Oh, and BEANS!
AYEEEEEEE I really appreciate it!
The source I used for the FBT list was really wrong and my nugget bring didn't double check until it was too late.
I can't imagine all of the cable management for 10 and 11 point, all the usbs, Tundra super dongles would make it easier but dang what a hassle
7:04 GINGER SPOTTED
I love them so much
BEANS, I'm on a binge and your style and attitude is itching something I've been lacking for years
I just bought a Quest 2 VR headset and plan to get into VRChat and other VR social apps. This is an interesting and informative video. I can't wait to get into fully body tracking and exploring my identity through VR. Also, beans.
bro the virtual insanity intro i am here for it
Ahah thank you halo
being comfortable with your feminine side is brave and eye opening. Im so happy for you!
Amazing video. Really entertaining and I came back on day 2 to finish watching it because I had been up for 30 hours playing VRC originally when I started it.
10/10
6:35 gyatttt i mean…. good video man😂
Literally subbed for the dino nuggies cryptocurrency joke, good lord that was good
Great video, liked it a lot. I haven't known about Standable so far, great tip. Oh and definitely beans.
Thank you!
6:34 That Jack’o pose is too good.. TOO good.
Been practicing for what feels like an eternity now haha
2:58 to 3:01
Last thing I'd thought id ever see is my old jet from my original unit (f-16d 787) in a video explaining full body tracking for vrchat.
But here we are
"... The same trackers i use to ERP with..." 4:54
He just came right out and said it! I mean I know that's the main reason we use them, but he just said it so casually!
I just got flashed bang by a sentence bro, I was not expecting that at all lmao 4:50
ENGINEERING ROLE PLAY GOD YOU GUYS ARE SO PERVERTED
@@BonelessVR uh huh, sure bro totally "engineering" role play
We build pillow forts@@JulveeYT
@@BonelessVR to do what in?
@@JulveeYT meth
4:52 "Vive trackers, the same thing i use to erp with-" well that caught me off guard
ik 😬😬
I don't know if you didn't know this, but the Sony Mocopi you glossed over does work on standalone quest mode, which can be a selling point for a lot of standalone quest users
can't believe youtube finally recommending good contents
Thank you
I didn't have a sleep schedule in the first place so we're chillin 😎
Not only this vid was helpful but more explaining and more straight to the point not to mention you broke it down simple as ever so I
Gonna go with vibe trackers (I think that’s how you say it lol) thank you for the tips and advice this was really helpful
Thank you for this! I have a valve index and I was thinking of getting full body tracking for my birthday for only £110 for waist and legs.
a deeper dive into slime: it is an open source project. you can make you own slime trackers, horatora is based off slime. my trackers used removable 18650 batteries that i can hot swap. and a 10 bay battery charger. if a set dies i can just swap them in a few min. if you want one single battery you can make it.
as far as drift, configure your firmware to use the magnetometers. as long as you dont have any large magnetic fields the drift should be a non issue, and i if it is a quick double tap will straighten you out.
there are several builders that use different imus for the tracking. the bmi1060 is the best bang for buck, and the do ok, but they dont have magnetometers so they will drift a bit.
thanks a lot for making this video, the most real information on FBT I've watched, really helps with making that trigger decision.
beans, beans, the more you eat, the more trackers yer gonna yeet?
Yeet the god dang trackers. Thank you for watching homie!
I love your editing, you're hella underrated + booth babe enjoyer
AYO Booth gang!
I have wired full body with reflashed vive wands as the trackers. Broken ones are so cheap and as long as tracking works there's no reason to get a working one other than resale. Also touchpad repair is super easy.
BEANS...okay, I guess I always wanted to do that! Another great one, Boneless, and I am a Standable user now. I admit, like @Ton_Tonn, I likely will also get some kind of hardware FBT. I appreciate your fire side chat, and agree that FBT in VRC (well, any truly immersive social VR experience) can come with a personal price. In all cases of self discovery, "The truth will set you free...but first it will piss you off!" (Gloria Steinem) Cheers!
Thank you for watching! I love that quote, I'm going to be using that pretty often now haha, cheers and I appreciate your support!
Beans, I'm getting slimevr trackers, and honestly I can't wait to join my goofy full body friend burritos in their wonderful shenanigans, VRChat is loads of fun WITHOUT full body, so I can only assume it's gonna be that and more WITH
Oh god full body brings it to a crazy level. The reason why I gave that warning is because I've seen it change people incredibly fast, if that isn't a testament to it's power then I don't know what is haha. One of my friends went down a really strange path because of it and ended up getting diagnosed with MPD and was told to get rid of his VR stuff. Prob should've included that in the video but it is what it is haha
Thank you for watching and when you get those slimes let me know what you think!
my slime vr trackers came in yesterday. just used them, are great
Ah beans. Going to have to try making a Jamiroquai VRchat world now.
6:40
😂😂
cracked me up.
Thank you for enjoying heh
I step into VR for the first time. Christ… I didn’t imagine there would be an impulse purchase for more additional trackers.
Great jobb boneless videos are getting better and better
HELL YEAH IM GLAD YOU'RE HERE
beans :3 this video actually helped me alot to deside which trackers ill get. thanks for the video. hope youre having a great day
IMUs: "The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error."
beans, i just recently got my pc, and luckily i do have standable, it's a decent substitute to use until i can actually save up for the proper trackers and everything, this video helped me out a lot, so thank you so much for that ^^❤
Thank you for watching! I'm really glad that it helped, that's the goal!
Nah the virtual Insanity intro is crazy 🤣
First, Beans. Second, as an owner of the Quest 3 and possible future owner of slime trackers, I'll say if I could get finger tracking to work with a pc connection in VR chat I would be satisfied and not get the FBT. I love interacting in the Meta side VRChat without controllers. Moving around, grabbing objects and dropping them, and signing ASL are so fun I could entertain myself for hours. Finger tracking with the front cameras is a game changer. What I'd like to see is 2, 3 or 4 camera 'base stations' which take the place of trackers and tracker base stations. Imagine having 4 $30 cameras on $10 tripods and never having to fiddle with trackers or drift. Just leave the big room lights on and let it rip.
TL;DR slimeVR is 99% of what 99% will use FBT for
I have full body base station tracking but I've bought slimes anyways as everything I want from FBT can be achieved better with IMUs, I'm not athletic so I don't need sub mm accuracy for my punches and kicks, I want occlusion free tracking that won't bug out if I'm sitting at my desk, my base stations also never work, I had 2 1.0s like 2 years ago that worked perfectly, top tier tracking, but they got damaged by flood water, then I bought another pair of 1.0s which broke after a few months, just recently I bought 2 2.0s expecting them to live up to the hype around them, they arrived kinda DOA but vice won't take them back, they just jitter a bit and while being more reliable than my quest inside out tracking in terms of loosing tracking algotgether, the jitter makes it actually impossible to shoot a gun in VR, hopefully base station 3.0s fix this, or even better I hope inside out tracking gets good enough to kill them entirely
Beans. Very useful info man keep up the entertaining content🔥
Doin my best! I really appreciate the support!
Beans. But seriously, I loooveeee the way this video was edited, whoever did it, did a fantastic job. If that's you then.. *whistle's up and down* you aren't popular enough, but 'chu will be soon, at this rate.
I edit for way too long haha, but comments like yours make it way worth it. Got a new space to film b roll in, just finished an update of my avatar, going to keep the ball rolling on cool stuff
Goddamn your youtube channel is soo good, how come I only stumble upon it now (instant sub), thank you so much for this vid! I'll definitely keep it in mind when I buy myself a fbt
I plan to keep it coming! Thank you so much for watching and enjoying the videos!
For some reason this is the 2nd vr full body tracking thing I've watched even though I don't plan on getting any VR for quite a while but, you said the codeword missile so here's something I should mention, the main downfall of inertial reference is that it doesn't have a main reference point and the more they get moved around the more they drift, but they are still pretty accurate, for instance the V2 rocket and the ATACMS missiles in Ukraine right now use inertial guidance, however more modern missiles like tomahawks and the newer block ATACMS have reference points like GPS or even scanning the horizon and comparing it to an internal map. I think it's a matter of time before some system gets figured out to calibrate IMU's on the fly for FBT.
As for inverse kinematics it's a thing that has been used quite a bit in some games and I think it will continue to get better but it's limited in the data it's fed, think about a line with 3 points on it, now move the outer points to each other, the middle point will have to move out of the way, however now imagine a line with 4 points, how will the 2 middle points hinge? The program will have to make a "decision" based on what it knows which I think will be interesting to see get better
I just bought full body tracking Slime VR since it's on sail and it'll be shipped until March 29th or 30th next year. I at least have plenty of time to prep my vr headset to work with my PC.
editing style and explanation is awesome.
Thank you amigo! I appreciate it!
Beans.
To be fair i get what you are saying with the risk of mental health. My first online vr experience with other people was so intense it hooked me immediately.
My first vr chat experience was something else, within minutes after creating an avatar i stumbled upon someone with full body tracking. The way that avatar moved towards me felt real to me and as soon as the avatar was leaning towards me to give a hug....... i felt it.... well not like an actual hug but more like an energy, as if a ghost touched me and gave tingeling sensations around the area of contact. It went from warm to cold and back.
All that happened in less than 5 seconds at that moment i did not realize what that was and it freaked me out so i took a step back and reached my arms infront of me in a defensive way as a bokser or something. Spooked but fascinated by the experience i stayed around for a while.
Eventually I had to take care of some responsibilities but as soon as i got back in i noticed i was chasing "the dragon" wich ended up with me staying in vrchat for 6 hours straight on my first day.
I experience the same thing with others that don't have full body tracking but only in certain conditions and setting.
All in all it made me to conclude: what if i get full body tracking myself? What if i can see my own avatar move in a way i recognize? The more natural movement looks the more vivid the sensations become.
I've asked avatars to approach me slowely and the more i practice the more "the dragon" comes around.
Wich makes me wonder: how deep does the rabbit hole go?
To come to an end: with all this i want to experiment with full body tracking and although it's not possible for me to get some now, i will in the future.
Now wich one would you recommend? I'm currently using the valve index with 3 base stations and finger tracking.
The way that you described it is perfect. I get the same experience quite often and to be honest, I love that technology exists that can make me feel that feeling. It definitely shook me at first, but I've been able to steel myself towards it and keep my head in check.
If you've already got base stations, the best bang for your buck is Vive trackers or Tundra, if you're cool with it, get a used set of 3.0's and order brand new straps from Rebuff Reality or EOZ, this'll track incredibly accurately for the same price you'd spend on Slimes just because you've already got base stations.
certified yapper
Ik it's late to comment this but I recently built slimes (BNO085 IMUS) and the drift reset isn't terrible. I reset once every 30 minutes and all I do is triple touch my left thigh tracker to do a full reset. Also just reseting the saw every 20 minutes can make it so I don't have to reset as often (I've gone 45 to an hour without resetting)
Thank you so much I was really considering getting one but I had no idea about anything and I think the video explains so much
Just a note for myself
I might try to get my hands on slime
im three mins in and im in love with the editing lol you got a new subscriber
One thing I’m tempted on trying is using my 6pt tracking setup with Standable to see how it fills in those edge cases of tracking (shoulders, elbows, etc.). I heard it does pretty well! Hopefully my BEANS pc can handle it.
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
Im not new but taking a break from VRC and returning has made me really scared, nervous, confused, and sometimes sad.
But all the happy time wich is most of the time makes up for it.
I just really wish I had more people to walk me tru everything.
Or have some sort of all VRC need-to-know book
Been a proud parteon of Standable
BEANNSSSS Also fun little story I’m highschool student who recently found VR as an escape from… Well highschool stress. I love to edit in my freetime and actually debated getting FBT for BnS VRC and editing… Then I remembered I’m a highschooler and cant afford that
I’m glad VR is helping you! It is unfortunate how expensive full body is right now. I hope over time slime and Haritora can close the tracking quality gap, it’s just a little bit further and then they’ll be perfect. Thank you for making it to the end!
beans
been playing vrc daily for a month. its rough. its realy rouhh. but i love it. hope this addiction passes soon
suprised there was nothing about viso fbt, the most dirt cheep fbt you can get your hands on
It’s not that good It won’t work for me :( any help?
@@iiraingirlii Theres a few things; 1 make sure you whole body is in frame, 2 you have to make sure you outfit is not too baggy and doesnt blend into teh background, 3 you need to set you hight to your real hight in viso, 4 connected to the same wifi as the device you use, and then just mess around with tracking and ik settings till it fits your liking
Haven't even heard about it! Since posting this a ton of people have joined the discord and shown off their lesser known full body solutions, crazy how many things I missed but I really wanted to cover the main FBT solutions. Will definitely take a look!
@@BonelessVR its a free app you can get on you android or ios device and is really easy and fairy good to use
I'm surprised there isn't a hybrid imu/base-station tracker. Like it switches to imu only when occluded. I feel like we have the tech for that, just waiting for someone to make it :) if there is plz LMK! beans.
Had this shower though. There has to be some way for IMU's to have a sort of anchor like a base station to continuously calibrate off of to avoid drift. And the vive trackers all have IMU's in them anyway, why can't they just enable basic IMU tracking in the software? I am a bit of a VR nerd, but not quite deep enough to know if there's some restriction that I'm missing. Definitely a great idea if it's possible! Thank you for watching all the way and leaving a thoughtful comment like that, it would be a brilliant idea!
There are some people working on it with the slimes
BEEEEEEEEEEANS! Another video I am coming back to watch again from my personal PC! I agree with you about FBT spoiling you. I was housesitting for a friend recently for a week and I took my headset, controllers and 10 SlimeVR trackers with me. Problem was, for some reason my friends computer would not detect my trackers over USB to change the WiFi network info. so for 3 days I had to use VRC without my Slimes and honestly... it was miserable. Even with Go Loco, its just not the same going back to half body. It is so jarring being used to having your leg move IRL and in VRC if your leg gets itchy when watching a movie in LSM or M&C and you go to scratch it and then not having that movement in your headset.
Great video!
Thank you for watching!
The scratch your leg thing is easily one of the best examples I've heard of. How are you liking slime so far btw?
I built my Slimes DIY from scratch back in April I think? I use BMI160 IMUs in them and I remember there was a lot of jank with them when I built them (tho this is NOT Slime's fault - I had a fair few faulty components or just badly soldered joints that were causing problems so my fault for the joints) But honestly?
The last few months everything has been great with them! The software on my PC that controls them and the firmware on my trackers has been steadily improving them. Even my friends have said how much better my tracking has been lately and asking if I changed anything.
I have a quick reset set to a chord in OVR settings so as soon as I have drifted too much I can just press them both and in less than a second, my tracking is back to normal. :) Thank you for replying! @@BonelessVR
When I got full body it didn't really effect me mentally at all Infact it made me do more exercise cause full body makes me wanna move, dance, dropkick people, get into a virtual fight, dance again, do a handstand etc etc.
Thank you for the information, but I'm still not clear on what I can use to capture hand movement, fingers, and facial expressions. I'm new to this world.
Valve index controllers for hands and fingers, Varjo aero for eyes, vive tracker for face, but I would recommend getting a quest pro instead for full face and eyes for much cheaper and better overall experience
thank you! Do you know of any particular reference that doesn´t cost that much?@@BonelessVR
Great video, thanks for making it! I decided to get the Vive 3.0s because of it. Can't wait to do some handstands as Paul Blart
We gotta do handstands together ehehe
@@BonelessVR That would be awesome!! :3
sony mocopi is god tier, they are so small and the little sony charging dock is so sick
I really wish someone would make a small update video for either the vives or tundras.. All the videos are from a year or two ago, yours is the newest so far..
FBT is life
Beans! I just got Slime VR in the mail and looking forward to full body tracking. I plan to use it in VR Chat but also for animation Motion capture which I have wanted to do ever since I took Motion capture class from college and I loved the experience.
I was planning on getting in to full body and this really helped me make that decision thank you and (beans)
Heck yeah! Thank you for watching all the way! What did you end up getting?
god damn I love your humor
GOBELSS
BEANS, and this helped me so much!, its helped so much to get so much info in just a small vid, now when i do get the chance to get the trackers, i know about everything i need to!
Thank you for watching! If you do end up getting something let me know!
will do!@@BonelessVR
i felt that "bleh" when mentioning the cosmos... the cosmos was my first headset.. the original cosmos
Beans, anyway, I do think SL0 is working on giving bonelab fullbody support, but I haven't seen anything about progress on it. It might have existed on release, they might have scrapped it. I don't know. But I think its being worked on.
From what I've gathered, they said they are working on it but it's been a very long time and people are losing hope for it. I was shocked that there isn't even a mod for it, at least during the time that I looked. Thank you for watching!
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*instert Leonardo Dicaprio point meme*
Amazing video. I wanted to get some fbt in the near future, but I couldn't find a proper info on what to get, what it needs and how it works.
Now please do one on how to import avis into vrc
Awesome and informational content.
Oh, and also "beans!".
You watched all the way through on two videos?? Thank you :)
I ordered my first Vive 3.0 tracker about three hours ago and I'll be picking up the other two asap. I've been spending so much time around full body users that I'm finally pulling the trigger on it and joining them as mirror/couch dwellers. Or using them for Beat Saber videos.
As a dancer, I use Haritorax Legs and Hips + three Vive trackers for chest and elbows.
It's pretty good
Beans, I love your videos man keep being awesome 😁
speaking of a love/hate relationship with base stations,
one of mine fell off the wall one day and collided against its power wire SO perfectly that it CLEANLY sliced through it. oh, the station broke too lmfao
Thanks Bean
Thank you for watching homie!
during the last part when you open up. VR does this in general. Something strange in the mirrors in VR.
Had a friend get diagnosed with multiple personality disorder and instructed by the psychiatrist or psychologist to sell his VR stuff :(
It really changes people