@@joeyshears1483 That's true, BUT you can (and should) fix the Grelod issue with a single action without having to adopt all of those kids. That's part of why I agree with having the Orphanage kids at the bottom of the list, because their new caretaker is sweet and makes an effort to find them parents.
@@peekitty right that's kinda my point, regardless of which kids you plan to adopt you should end Grelod and the serial killer, then neither thing needs factor into your decision.
So, uh, when I was first playing Skyrim I was advancing the serial killer quest every time I went to Windhelm and I wanted to adopt Sofie. When I finally got the children’s quarters in my house and went to adopt it was super early and she wasn’t in her bed. SHE had been chosen as the final victim for the butcher of windhelm. Getting the animated takedown with my ice spikes spell to save her was still the coolest moment I’ve ever had in Skyrim though.
@@ninjalex9791 Too bad you can't get Ulfric to adopt Sophie. That much waif innocence would melt his stubborn bigoted heart and make him change his ways. But not Mavin or the Thalmor. Thalmor would try to kidnap and exploit her and Mavin. . .I wouldn't put it past her to do what she normally does when people anger her.
@@imtolazytocreateaname2322 pulled from wiki On a freezing New Year's Eve, a poor young girl, shivering and barefoot tries to sell matches in the street. Afraid to go home because her father would beat her for failing to sell any matches, she huddles in the alley between two houses and lights matches, one by one, to warm herself. However, the girl is ignored by passersby as no one buys from her, leaving her to suffer alone in the cold weather. In the flame of the matches, she sees a series of comforting visions: the warm iron stove, the lovely roast goose, the great glorious Christmas tree. Each vision disappears as its match burns out. In the sky she sees a shooting star, which her late grandmother had told her means someone is on their way to Heaven. In the flame of the next match she sees her late grandmother, the only person that ever treated her with love and kindness. To keep the vision of her grandmother alive as long as possible, the girl lights the entire bundle of matches. When the matches are gone, the girl freezes to death, and her grandmother carries her soul to Heaven. The next morning, passers-by find the girl's body with a smile on her face, and express pity. They do not know about the wonderful visions she had seen, or how happy she is with her grandmother in Heaven.
@@VicDScotthe’s referring to callixto for the blood on the ice quest, not grelod. Grelod didn’t kill the kids (that we know of anyway) she abused them, still deserved the death we gave her though. Sophie sleeps right next to his house until you choose to adopt her cause let’s not kid ourselves here, damn near EVERYONE adopted her.
A couple years back, I was playing Skyrim with my then 6yo (heavily modded to make it more kid-friendly, lol) and I would set him up to go battle a bandit camp or solve a dungeon and just watch him and give him advice when he wanted it. Once he figured out he could buy Breezehome and adopt Lucia, he IMMEDIATELY switched to just roleplaying family life and walking around Whiterun with her, playing games. It was so sweet and funny, he would give this deeply exasperated sigh, and then explain to me how he can't "go adventuring all the time now, family is most important" and he needs to be there for her. 😭😍 He's super into action games and it was a complete shock how he switched to ignoring every other mechanic in the game. So precious!
Same honestly! But that child seems strong and willing to take care of himself. He obviously cared about the other orphans as well knowing that they were being abused and mistreated. I like to think that he went on to become a bad ass and a caring father.
@@UncrownedGlobe3 I think he would actually turn out pretty messed up, becoming a dark brotherhood assasin given the fact that he now looks up to them after you kill Grelod, and his willingness to invoke a dark ritual, even as a child.
I wish there were some Non-Human Kids to adopt. Like I'd imagine the Grey Quarter or Raven Rock would have some Dunmer Orphans. There could be a Hatchling or two at the Argonian Docks, and maybe a Khajiit Kitten could be traveling with one of the caravans. Oh well, that's what Mods are for!
Bro, I could make the orc urchin -> orc raider group a dungeons and dragon's encounter. There's this whole thing with the orc lore in one of the books where each orc kid gets accepted or rejected by the different groups. First the main orc warriors, then the healers, etc. If they're rejected by everyone, they basically abandoned/eaten by giant bats. Imagine one spy orc just letting them out the back way of the cave rather than making them bat food. He raises them all to be ruthless killers than overthrows the chief and takes over the whole ass clan!
Another reason to pick Sophie, depending on where you are on the related quest chain. THERE IS A SERIAL KILLER GOING AROUND TARGETING YOUNG FEMALES. All of the targets have been adults so far, but there is no reason to suspect the killer wouldn't. Plus what if she is caught having seen too much? Then the killer would end her just to keep her from telling anyone what she saw. Get her out of that city asap.
Considering The Butcher will go after female Argonians and Altmer he could easily go after a child like Sofie. Murder the Butcher and adopt Sophie!!!!!
I literally always adopt Sofie and Lucia. My reasoning had always been the same as if is here, they really do need it the most. Lucia isn't sleeping in the worst town and isn't freezing every single night, but she has zero method of income except for literally begging. The other two boys have jobs and something to do, and its a harsh and unforgiving life they don't deserve, but they have a chance to actually grow into having an actual profession, and they have somewhere to stay at night mostly I dread to think what Lucia may have to do to start working for money, and Sofie is in the same boat I think it's kinda ridiculous the game doesn't let you adopt all four kids though, or at least send them to the orphanage, because no matter what you do, there will always be two children freezing and starving out in skyrim that you have to witness suffering every time you visit their city I have more houses than I know what to do with. One of my homesteads could be a literal orphanage. Why can't I save these kids??
@@bakedbaker9882 there's a mod that increases the number of kids you can adopt up to 4, allowing you to adopt the 4 kids that sleep on the streets, it also changes the houses to have 4 beds for the kids
@No Hearthfire Multiple Adoptions. And you can have up to 6 kids total. There should also be a list on the mod page for custom houses that are compatible with the adoption mod. I believe there are also ways to expand the default houses to accommodate the mod as well. And yes, on the Nexus.
I always buy her out regardless of what kind of character I'm building I usually wind up with so much gold that when I adopt kids if they ask for money I give em 1k lol
I could play the most awful character who just murdered 5 innocent characters, but i will stop to buy her flowers and if i have a house i will adopt her.
"That's a bit Fucked Up even for me" To be fair, Lemkil was asking for it and most players probably soul trap him and put his Black Soul Gem in the same cabinet as Grelod
In my play through Sophie glitched and kept duping her flower basket, and then her hundreds of basket wound up in her shop inventory. I bought them all, giving Sophie enough money to buy a house. So at this point she’s choosing to sleep outside
But as we all know, there is only 1 available house per hold. And its reserved for Thanes. Still, she could rent a room in Candlehearth Hall every night.
Something that has always pissed me off, probably irrationally--Sofie's dad was a stormcloak. And she's in Windhelm. I struggle to believe that Ulfric wouldn't hear about her being there. We know he already sent Aventus to honor hall and, shit as the place is, at least they aren't freezing to death. The daughter of one of his loyal soldiers could be freezing to death on his doorstep, and he does nothing.
tbf there's the son of two deceased legionares living in a barn. Like sure that's not as bad, but it's still terrible. Plus the Skyrim cities are only like a 10th of their actual size for gameplay purposes. I'd imagine in the actual Elder Scrolls world there's tons of war orphans walking around and neither side has the resources to take care of all of them. Plus these orphans were added as DLC characters explicitly made with tragic backstories to adopt. I highly doubt the devs meant to look any deeper than that.
I don't think I've ever NOT adopted Sophie just on principal. The other kids at least have SOME chances of survival, whereas hers is astronomically low if you don't take her in. I think I agree with this entire list as far as who needs adoption more.
Master Neloth and I are on the same page here. I try mixing things up with spouses and kids, but I can't walk past Sofie. I just can't. She's just a little girl, selling flowers to somehow scrape by and survive, in a frozen over city with a killer on the lose. Her and Lucia are my favorites. Lucia, just because I gave her a coin during my first game, and her little "You're the best! Can you be my father?" melted me.
YES. THIS. On my first playthrough on Skyrim:SE I found out I could adopt children. I found Lucia and gave her a coin. The SECOND I walked past her and she went "Can you be my mom?" my first thought was "That's it. I'm buying a house." Then I got married to Vilkas and adopted both her and Alesan. That first savefile is now lost to time due to me installing so many mods and having to delete my past characters so many times, but I always look back to it fondly.
"You're the best! Can you be my mother?" I literally just bawled my eyes out 😭 I didn't have a house, so I rushed to scramble 5000 gold as fast as I could and then the upgrade so she could join me. In the house. Then zi slowly upgraded it until it was a nice cosy place to live. Found gifts around the place to give to her, never adopted anyone else. I normally hate kids but that one line broke me 😭
@@Stettafire I did the same. I heard that line and immediately sold everything I could, to buy Breeze home and furnish the kids room. Before that, I didn't know how badly I actually want to have kids some day. ^^;
@@Stettafire In my first Play I was constantly being picked by on by guards for being a Kajhiit and that lil girl was the first display of kindness the Kajhiit got in Skyrim. Lucia got herself a mother with deadly claws.
Not to mention that when you first come to Windhelm, there's a serial killer on the loose and that if you follow the clues wrong, you can get the wrong person arrested, leaving the actual killer to continue to kill people, decreasing Sofie's chance to make it to adulthood if the cold isn't enough to do her in.
@@thegameranch5935 You can catch the real killer. Done it before. Though it's been awhile since I played Skyrim, so I don't really remember how you're supposed to figure out without prior knowledge.
@@thegameranch5935 I think what they mean is, you can catch the killer without getting the wrong clues, and without getting the wrong person jailed before you catch the killer. *[Quest Spoilers Here]* , but this game is like 11 yrs old, so if you havent done the quest by now, idk what to tell ya... While the quest marker wont immediately point you to the wizard, when it updates saying to go the steward to tell on the wizard, **DONT** go to the steward "catch" the killer. You instead must go to and confront the wizard yourself. He'll scoff at you for accusing him, but will progress the quest along to where the killer will now attack at night after you talk to him. So you can then catch the killer right after talking to the wizard without having him imprisoned
@@vauni98FUCK. I knew something wasn't right about that quest.. I can't reload now, because I've done way too much progress and I'd rather not have to do it all over.
Of the street orphans, if you don't adopt them, they should be adopted by the other residents, depending on your choices, like Sofie been adopted by Quintus Navale where she can learn to turn her flowers into potions
I adopt Sofie every playthrough as well, both for the reasons you laid out here, and the additional reason of Sophie being my daughter's name and if I didn't adopt her in game my conscience wouldn't let me sleep at night.
I always adopt Sofie. I also adopt Sissel after wiping out her Dad in the most painful way possible while leaving his other daughter Britte destitute. I know that's harsh but she's an absolute cowbag.
Britte is someone who is abused by the garbage Lemkil and so lashes out at Sissel for that. I think if she was raised better she wouldn’t be such a “cowbag” lol. But I understand what you mean
My favorite thing about Lemkil is that he'll randomly give you a quest to beat up one of his daughters because of their low relationship score and the radiant quest doesn't check if the target is a kid. Classic Bethesda oversight!
I'm with you! I have to adopt Sophie in almost every play through. She's too adorable, thanking you for just talking to her and acknowledging that she exists. Then seeing her sleep in the snow.... holy heart string tug. Even if I'm trying to go for an evil immersive play through, I'll find myself rationalizing why I'd adopt her. I also usually side the Imperials. So I save her, then torch the rest of the city. Oh well.
Yooo same, I once almost finished the civil war, then remember her being in the city, slipped in during the night and adopt her away before I slaughter the Stormcloak
Personally I always adopt Sophie and Lucia. Both girls really have a pretty rough life and as far as things go it stands to reason that neither one is likely to survive if they are not adopted soon. With the two boys outside Honorhall I always believe that in the end they have a future as they do have work, are mostly under shelter, and they are eating pretty regularly while the same can't be said of Lucia or Sophia on any count. But that assuming I don't have the multiple adoption mod installed. In that case all four orphans gets adopted and if Grelod ends up dying through one of the many glitches Runa also gets a home... five is enough, six? That's just too many.
I remember eventually kids in Skyrim turn from a cute pet that talks, to a fun game of running around your house in order to avoid paying them allowance.
I always give them the most allowance so they leave me alone, but then I come back and they either ask for more money (greedy bastards, wonder where they get it from lol) or they're like, "I got you something. I hope you like it." and they give a gold ring and you have to stand there not wanting to murder them lmao
I feel Lucia needs her own revenge story - Tragically losing her parents so young. And then kicked off the farm she grew up on, by her own aunt and uncle, who greedily took it over. Lucia then gets adopted by the Dragonborn, who heard her tale and vowed to train her into a warrior. Lucia trains for years with the Dragonborn - and then finally - she returns to the farm, that was stolen from her, and massacres everyone on it to reclaim her birthright! Dragonborn watches on with pride and joy, a tear rolling down the cheek... "That's my girl!"
Windhelm logic: send off Aventus, who has a house and is reasonably well off, to the orphanage. ignore Sofie who sleeps in the snow and is probably starving while a serial killer prowls the city every night.
Sofie is one of the Orphans I will always adopt (even though I didn't for my recent playthrough) because I just feel really bad for her. I adopt her to save her from the freezing cold and also she might be magic. For some odd reason when I buy flowers from her she will also sell you flower baskets which seems normal, UNTIL I saw her selling 214 Flower Baskets! To make it weirder she appears to be making more every 7 seconds. The last time I spoke to her to buy flowers, all of a sudden she had 330 Flower Baskets for sale! I don't know how often this bug happens but it made me laugh for like 10 minutes 😂. So you should only adopt her to save her from the cold, but if you're a gold digger, there is another reason to adopt her.
Get the merchant perk. If you don't buy them all right before adopting her, you run the chance of not being able to give her gifts at your house. The merchant perk is needed for the buying of her baskets.
I always adopt Sissel after killing her abusive dad :( It's so sad to hear her talk about how both her dad and twin sister hate her and beat her so I always try to give her a better life (plus she knows magic and dreams of paarthunax so she's the perfect daughter of the dragonborn i think!!)
Hot take: we should've been able to take over and improve Honorhall Orphanage after becoming a thane of the Rift. The combination of your username and the video title made me think this was gonna be some hilarious Telvanni-tier fuckery, but it's actually very wholesome and I agree with you on all points. I'd adopt all of them if I could (why tf the limit of 2, Bethesda?) but I always adopt some combination of Sophie, Alesan, and Lucia. They're most desperately in peril and in need of someone that will actually care for them. Sophie's in immediate danger at all times, Alesan is going to seriously hurt himself one day, and Lucia has nothing except begging. Edit: welp now I want to play again
I always play as a male argonian, always marry scouts many marshes, and always adopt Sofie and Lucia. I try my best to give my family the best life possible at Lakeview Manor and it makes me feel good about myself every time I come back home from adventuring.
@@ImposterTheory wait thats literally my playthrough too. I'll adopt different kids for different files for role-playing purposes, but id say I adopt the same kids, marry the same man, and have them move into the same house.
I always adopt Sophie, every time, along with Blaise. I love the idea of children whose birth parents were on opposing sides, being adopted by the same person and growing up to love and understand each other, without letting those allegiances tear them apart. I’ve though of adopting other kids, like Alesan, but I just…Blaise and Sophie have always been my first kids, in a way. I could never change that. I’m glad a mod let me adopt them all, though! 😂
I had never played an elder scrolls game until about a month ago when my friend gave me his copy of Skyrim. As soon as I met Lucia in whiterun I started grinding so I could buy a house for her to live in. The next kid I met was Sophie, and I met her seconds after finding out that young women in whiterun were being murdered. So of course I adopted her immediately. I've grown so attached that I don't know if I'll be able to adopt any others in future playthroughs.
I always adopt him and bring him home for my kids, though strangely my kids and such eventually all hate him, and I have no clue how to stop it or prevent it. :')
In my current playthrough, I often travel through Windhelm and go out of my way to buy Sophie's flowers at every chance. Unfortunately however, at level 47, I am still homeless outside of the Archmage's Quarters and some Creation Club homes that I don't care for and haven't settled down yet. I'm thinking of trying the Solitude home though as I've never lived in that home before
I wish we could do more with the kids. Like, train them by taking them on quests that's safe for them, and teaching them magic. Basically, I want a Skyrim life simulator 😂
I have always wanted to adopt Sophie in my playthroughs. But almost everytime she glitches out and doesn't come home after I had adopted her. So I have never been able to adopt her but in order to make up for my faulty game I do buy her flowers whenever I am in Windhelm.
That bug only happened to me once, when I adopted her while she wasn't at the location she sells flowers from. I think it happens when her AI is having her go to bed or something.
In my headcanon I like to think that after becoming Herald of the Companions, Lucia is taken in to Jorrvaskr to help Tilma the Haggard. And yes, I aslo always adopt Sofie no matter what. Windhelm is the coldest damn city in Skyrim and she sleeps outside in some corner, most likely hungry and definitevely afraid. No way in hell am I allowing that.
It's always Runa and Sissel for me. Runa will easily become a fine warrior some day and won me over quickly and Sissel is clearly special, having interesting dreams and a knack for magic. They feel like a good balance
I have an entire Dunmer character centered around Sofie. The premise is that she's a Dunmer who dislikes Nords and is prejudiced against them. She's a necromancer and raises Nord corpses and traps Nord souls. Her character arc is adopting Sofie who becomes her whole world.
Well in my first play through there was a random encounter spawn in riverwood where the cultists came after me. The cultist killed the riverwood blacksmiths, leaving their daughter Dorthe alone. I watched for days as she just stood over her parents bodies going “*sigh* what am I supposed to do now?” So naturally, I went and built a house because it was my first time playing and I only had the Lakeview manor land available. That’s how I came to be Dorthe’s mom 😊
*rolling in a year late to say;* Sofie and Sissel. Best adopted child combo. Sofie is a wonderful child who deserves a good life, and Sissel needs saved from abuse. She also has dreams of Party Snax and as the Dragonborn that just means a family trip to see Daddy Party Snax.
Sofie is always my number one. I just can't leave her out there in the cold peddling flowers. As for my second, when I played vanilla, it was a toss up between Lucia in Whiterun or Runa from Honorhall Orphanage (what can I say, I like her hustle attitude). Thankfully I've played with mods for years now and have the multi-adopt mod so I can get all three girls!
I usually adopt Sophie and Lucia. Lucia just tugs at my heartstrings, and as an Imperial I like to think that I was the one who killed Sophie's father in battle and I am taking care of his daughter as repentance
In my first playthroughs I adopted Runa and Blaise. But after discovering Sofie and Alesan, I always adopt them because of the extreme conditions they have to endure. If I had the option, I'd also adopt Blaise and Lucia simply because they both dont have roofs over their heads. But bethesda decided to make shit hard
I love Sofie! She's sweet, kind hearted and tries her best even in the worst situations. I tried to adopt different kids once, but of course it didn't work out lol this girl deserves to live a beautiful life.
I saw her first during the daytime and that was bad enough but when I saw her laying on the cold ground, I knew that something had to be done. I play with Frostfall and have to be careful not freezing to death in Windhelm. There are also a mod that puts beds in the game for the homeless orphans.
I adopted Braith by doing the obvious because I felt sorry for her, her parents ignore her and pan her off to one another when they don’t want to acknowledge her which is why I think she bullies Lars so much and why she’s so defiant to everyone until you adopt her she’s like a normal child you’d find she’s not angry anymore so I would make a case for Braith as well if you’re the type of player to do it 😊
I always adopt Sofie but flip between the rest of them for the second. In general though I always get two daughters because if I'm honest I feel like a male child would have a better chance at a good life than a young woman in Skyrim...
Honestly, it doesn't seem like sexism is much of a thing in Skyrim. Sure, there's idiots like Mikael, but you see plenty of female warriors and business owners.
I cannot resist adopting sofie. Even during runs where I’m sure the character would never adopt or have families Without fail her situation pulls their heartstrings so much they ALWAYS ADOPT HER….
Great to discover this channel! As a fellow Telvanni enjoyer I mostly end up playing some variation of Dunmer Battlemage/Sorcerer and always end up adopting Sofie and Sissel when I walk through Rorikstead and inevitably end up unaliving Lemkil for violating my NAP by existing and speaking to me.
I usually adopt both Lucia and Sophie Becuase I usually have a gay marriage. My male nord always tends to Marry either Farkus or the male orc from Markarth you can marry. and people say it’s cute for a gay couple to have a daughter
Of course, after the children are adopted, they simply become generic adopted children and do not have distinct personalities. The entire system seems like it is only partially completed.
My issue adopting Sophie is that she is always so bugged. I've adopted her three or four different playthroughs, and she has NEVER behaved correctly. I have her right now on a playthrough... She's in my home, but if I click on her she says, "I'll collect my things and meet you at home." 😒
I also always adopt Sophie... and most times, also Alesan. Oh, and of course Meeko. And I also always took Illia as my steward, because I'm not going to let her permanently hang around the place where we killed her hagraven wannabe mother (which I tested, and the mother's body never despawns, spooky that one). For the spouse position... I always change my pick for spouses, but I tend to pick the ones that can also become a companion. Oh, but Ingun Blackbriar is a special one, because by marrying her, we somewhat become a member of the Blackbriar family and able to take things from their home without stealing it, and since it's the Blackbriar family, I don't feel any guilt from taking everything from their home and selling them away. LOL
Whats worse about the number 1 pick is, not only is windhelm a freezing tundra, its one of the MOST freezing tundra's in all of skyrim, something we now know thanks to survival mode, which helpfully gives you a pop up message every time the temperature changes, and what it changes TO. And windhelm is one of only a hand-full of regions that pretty consistently stays around treachorously cold. The only other place i know that almost ALWAYS sticks around that range... *Is the pale AKA winterhold*
I always adopt Sophie and Alessan for the exact reason you stated. Our of all the orphans, they have it the hardest. I never considered the orphans at orphanage because of that and i never took the time to talk to them.
Francois Hroar Samuel Runa Sofia Alesian Blase and Lucia are tied for my favorite maybe I can do a save where I adopt both of them Edit: I think you have convinced me to adopt Sofie I’ll try to in my next save
@@ryhi5 Mehrunes Dagon is unironically more sympathetic than Molag Bal because he just wants to smash everything. Which is still pretty bad, just not as bad as anything Molag Bal will do to you.
@@TheKolboShow I compare Mehrunes Dagon to Beerus from DBZ. He represents a necessary evil. Things need to be destroyed in order for new things to be created. out with the old in with the new. Doesn't change the fact that Dagon is an Asshole, but compare him to Molag Bal. Where there's no purpose or necessity to Molag Bal's cruelty except to satisfy his own amusement.
They really need a mod where the children grow up (either naturally or magically). Also, making them adults or teens is a rather creative way to remove their essential status. *evil smirk*
If you can mod your game, Dragon's Keep has a home for six kids plus an academy with room for many more orphans or even for some of those children who need some help or straightening out, whose parents won't or can't. Has some neat other features like a friendly dragon too.
I love coming back to this classic video and looking at how I've changed in editing and narration lol
Your personality says “virgin”
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that Sofie lives in a town with an active serial killer that's literally harvesting young girls body parts 💀
He also didn't mention Grelod torturing the kids, I'm assuming he just isn't mentioning things you can fix as the player without adopting them.
@@joeyshears1483 That's true, BUT you can (and should) fix the Grelod issue with a single action without having to adopt all of those kids. That's part of why I agree with having the Orphanage kids at the bottom of the list, because their new caretaker is sweet and makes an effort to find them parents.
@@peekitty right that's kinda my point, regardless of which kids you plan to adopt you should end Grelod and the serial killer, then neither thing needs factor into your decision.
Wait what town is that?? I’ve never gotten incredibly far in terms of exploring side-quests and I’d love to go find an NPC to kill
So, uh, when I was first playing Skyrim I was advancing the serial killer quest every time I went to Windhelm and I wanted to adopt Sofie.
When I finally got the children’s quarters in my house and went to adopt it was super early and she wasn’t in her bed. SHE had been chosen as the final victim for the butcher of windhelm.
Getting the animated takedown with my ice spikes spell to save her was still the coolest moment I’ve ever had in Skyrim though.
The fact that Sophie is inspired by The Little Match Girl pretty much spells out her fate if she's not adopted.
I always adopt Sophie in all of my playthroughs.
@@ninjalex9791 Too bad you can't get Ulfric to adopt Sophie. That much waif innocence would melt his stubborn bigoted heart and make him change his ways.
But not Mavin or the Thalmor. Thalmor would try to kidnap and exploit her and Mavin. . .I wouldn't put it past her to do what she normally does when people anger her.
What's her fate? I've never heard of The Little Match Girl.
@@chadharger9323 Why change perfection?
@@imtolazytocreateaname2322 pulled from wiki
On a freezing New Year's Eve, a poor young girl, shivering and barefoot tries to sell matches in the street. Afraid to go home because her father would beat her for failing to sell any matches, she huddles in the alley between two houses and lights matches, one by one, to warm herself. However, the girl is ignored by passersby as no one buys from her, leaving her to suffer alone in the cold weather.
In the flame of the matches, she sees a series of comforting visions: the warm iron stove, the lovely roast goose, the great glorious Christmas tree. Each vision disappears as its match burns out. In the sky she sees a shooting star, which her late grandmother had told her means someone is on their way to Heaven. In the flame of the next match she sees her late grandmother, the only person that ever treated her with love and kindness. To keep the vision of her grandmother alive as long as possible, the girl lights the entire bundle of matches.
When the matches are gone, the girl freezes to death, and her grandmother carries her soul to Heaven. The next morning, passers-by find the girl's body with a smile on her face, and express pity. They do not know about the wonderful visions she had seen, or how happy she is with her grandmother in Heaven.
Sophie also sleeps next to the house of a serial killer! So yeah....please adopt her.
Holy shit I didn't know that! All I thought when I met her was, "Welp! Time to kill Grelod!" Now I have even more motivation to kill Grelod!
That has nothing to do with Grelod.@@VicDScott
@@VicDScotthe’s referring to callixto for the blood on the ice quest, not grelod. Grelod didn’t kill the kids (that we know of anyway) she abused them, still deserved the death we gave her though. Sophie sleeps right next to his house until you choose to adopt her cause let’s not kid ourselves here, damn near EVERYONE adopted her.
Without a mod children are immortal in Skyrim, so she is perfectly safe.
@@needparalegal well you see there’s this thing called role play
Well I suppose someone had to rank the Orphans
I sure as hel wasn't gonna do it
My thoughts exactly LOL
Longbrow probably wasn't going to lol
Next video is which kid we wish we could kill!
@@matalvis Great, can't wait to see, to me most of the more killable ones are in whiterun
A couple years back, I was playing Skyrim with my then 6yo (heavily modded to make it more kid-friendly, lol) and I would set him up to go battle a bandit camp or solve a dungeon and just watch him and give him advice when he wanted it. Once he figured out he could buy Breezehome and adopt Lucia, he IMMEDIATELY switched to just roleplaying family life and walking around Whiterun with her, playing games. It was so sweet and funny, he would give this deeply exasperated sigh, and then explain to me how he can't "go adventuring all the time now, family is most important" and he needs to be there for her. 😭😍 He's super into action games and it was a complete shock how he switched to ignoring every other mechanic in the game. So precious!
I was exactly like your son when I was 10 and the Hearthfire dlc came out to adopt children and build a house. Which is super funny to think about 😂
Sounds like you raised a good kid
That is so sweet!
That's adorable.
ffs too cute D: my heart hahah
I always adopt Sofie. I just cannot leave her to freeze and starve in Windhelm. She deserves better. The second child is usually Lucia or Alesan.
Great minds think alike :)
Sofie and lucia are the best
Hivemind.
Sophie and Lucia top tier
Hell yeah
Sofie/Alesan gang rise up
You can't adopt Aventus Aretino and that will always feel like a crime to me.
Same honestly! But that child seems strong and willing to take care of himself. He obviously cared about the other orphans as well knowing that they were being abused and mistreated. I like to think that he went on to become a bad ass and a caring father.
I downloaded a mod just to adopt him XD
@@UncrownedGlobe3 I think he would actually turn out pretty messed up, becoming a dark brotherhood assasin given the fact that he now looks up to them after you kill Grelod, and his willingness to invoke a dark ritual, even as a child.
@@someonesilence3731 technically all the orphanage kids look up to the Dark Brotherhood after Grelod dies 😂
@@lynnz7501 True but Aventus outright states that he wants to become an assasin, I think he would end up going down a dark path.
I wish there were some Non-Human Kids to adopt. Like I'd imagine the Grey Quarter or Raven Rock would have some Dunmer Orphans. There could be a Hatchling or two at the Argonian Docks, and maybe a Khajiit Kitten could be traveling with one of the caravans. Oh well, that's what Mods are for!
I could raise some Orc urchins into a terrifying cabal of Orc raiders…
@@masterneloth “okay kids! Today we’re going to play our favorite game! Find the Halfling!”
Ulfric reads your comment and declares war on you.
Bro, I could make the orc urchin -> orc raider group a dungeons and dragon's encounter. There's this whole thing with the orc lore in one of the books where each orc kid gets accepted or rejected by the different groups. First the main orc warriors, then the healers, etc. If they're rejected by everyone, they basically abandoned/eaten by giant bats. Imagine one spy orc just letting them out the back way of the cave rather than making them bat food. He raises them all to be ruthless killers than overthrows the chief and takes over the whole ass clan!
@@ryhi5 And if you find the halfling the MEAT'S BACK IN THE MENU, BOYS!!!!!!
Another reason to pick Sophie, depending on where you are on the related quest chain. THERE IS A SERIAL KILLER GOING AROUND TARGETING YOUNG FEMALES. All of the targets have been adults so far, but there is no reason to suspect the killer wouldn't. Plus what if she is caught having seen too much? Then the killer would end her just to keep her from telling anyone what she saw. Get her out of that city asap.
Considering The Butcher will go after female Argonians and Altmer he could easily go after a child like Sofie. Murder the Butcher and adopt Sophie!!!!!
@@masterneloth I always beat The Butcher to dead bare-handed and adopt Sofie.
I literally always adopt Sofie and Lucia. My reasoning had always been the same as if is here, they really do need it the most. Lucia isn't sleeping in the worst town and isn't freezing every single night, but she has zero method of income except for literally begging. The other two boys have jobs and something to do, and its a harsh and unforgiving life they don't deserve, but they have a chance to actually grow into having an actual profession, and they have somewhere to stay at night mostly
I dread to think what Lucia may have to do to start working for money, and Sofie is in the same boat
I think it's kinda ridiculous the game doesn't let you adopt all four kids though, or at least send them to the orphanage, because no matter what you do, there will always be two children freezing and starving out in skyrim that you have to witness suffering every time you visit their city
I have more houses than I know what to do with. One of my homesteads could be a literal orphanage. Why can't I save these kids??
Ikr, I wouldn't mind helping run an orphanage in game. I wonder if there's a mod
@@bakedbaker9882 I think there is, they pretty much have a mod for everything
@@bakedbaker9882 there's a mod that increases the number of kids you can adopt up to 4, allowing you to adopt the 4 kids that sleep on the streets, it also changes the houses to have 4 beds for the kids
@No Hearthfire Multiple Adoptions. And you can have up to 6 kids total. There should also be a list on the mod page for custom houses that are compatible with the adoption mod. I believe there are also ways to expand the default houses to accommodate the mod as well. And yes, on the Nexus.
@No YW.
"If you don't buy Sofie's flowers on the spot you're probably a Molag Bal worshipper"
Hell nah, my Vampire character bought her out first thing
I always buy her out regardless of what kind of character I'm building I usually wind up with so much gold that when I adopt kids if they ask for money I give em 1k lol
I could play the most awful character who just murdered 5 innocent characters, but i will stop to buy her flowers and if i have a house i will adopt her.
“Just because I’m a bloodthirsty monster doesn’t mean I don’t have standards”
@@Mesruksi I may be a blood thirsty monster BUT NOBODY HARMS CHILDREN **rips Lemkil to pieces in Vampire Lord form
You may be bad guy, but this does not mean you are *bad* guy
"That's a bit Fucked Up even for me"
To be fair, Lemkil was asking for it and most players probably soul trap him and put his Black Soul Gem in the same cabinet as Grelod
Dude there's a long list of people including some Jarls that deserve that fate.
His name is an anagram for Killme
**raised hand indicating I do just that**
@@Greinaut. How did i not know this after playing Skyrim for over thousand hours?
In my play through Sophie glitched and kept duping her flower basket, and then her hundreds of basket wound up in her shop inventory. I bought them all, giving Sophie enough money to buy a house. So at this point she’s choosing to sleep outside
😸
i had the same problem but sort of fixed it by marrying and bringing the wife to the same house.
But as we all know, there is only 1 available house per hold. And its reserved for Thanes.
Still, she could rent a room in Candlehearth Hall every night.
Something that has always pissed me off, probably irrationally--Sofie's dad was a stormcloak. And she's in Windhelm. I struggle to believe that Ulfric wouldn't hear about her being there. We know he already sent Aventus to honor hall and, shit as the place is, at least they aren't freezing to death.
The daughter of one of his loyal soldiers could be freezing to death on his doorstep, and he does nothing.
tbf there's the son of two deceased legionares living in a barn. Like sure that's not as bad, but it's still terrible. Plus the Skyrim cities are only like a 10th of their actual size for gameplay purposes. I'd imagine in the actual Elder Scrolls world there's tons of war orphans walking around and neither side has the resources to take care of all of them. Plus these orphans were added as DLC characters explicitly made with tragic backstories to adopt. I highly doubt the devs meant to look any deeper than that.
I wish I could adopt two orphans per house. The housecarls can watch over them while I'm away. Because I also adopt Sophie every playthrough.
I don't think I've ever NOT adopted Sophie just on principal. The other kids at least have SOME chances of survival, whereas hers is astronomically low if you don't take her in. I think I agree with this entire list as far as who needs adoption more.
I think Lucia should be below the stable boy personally, I’ve given her enough gold to buy her own home in every play through 😂
@@splorpme Can't you only give her 1 coin per day? That's not even enough for food everyday
Master Neloth and I are on the same page here.
I try mixing things up with spouses and kids, but I can't walk past Sofie. I just can't.
She's just a little girl, selling flowers to somehow scrape by and survive, in a frozen over city with a killer on the lose.
Her and Lucia are my favorites. Lucia, just because I gave her a coin during my first game, and her little "You're the best! Can you be my father?" melted me.
YES. THIS. On my first playthrough on Skyrim:SE I found out I could adopt children. I found Lucia and gave her a coin. The SECOND I walked past her and she went "Can you be my mom?" my first thought was "That's it. I'm buying a house." Then I got married to Vilkas and adopted both her and Alesan.
That first savefile is now lost to time due to me installing so many mods and having to delete my past characters so many times, but I always look back to it fondly.
"You're the best! Can you be my mother?" I literally just bawled my eyes out 😭 I didn't have a house, so I rushed to scramble 5000 gold as fast as I could and then the upgrade so she could join me. In the house. Then zi slowly upgraded it until it was a nice cosy place to live. Found gifts around the place to give to her, never adopted anyone else.
I normally hate kids but that one line broke me 😭
@@Stettafire I did the same.
I heard that line and immediately sold everything I could, to buy Breeze home and furnish the kids room.
Before that, I didn't know how badly I actually want to have kids some day. ^^;
Adultification bias at work
@@Stettafire In my first Play I was constantly being picked by on by guards for being a Kajhiit and that lil girl was the first display of kindness the Kajhiit got in Skyrim. Lucia got herself a mother with deadly claws.
Not to mention that when you first come to Windhelm, there's a serial killer on the loose and that if you follow the clues wrong, you can get the wrong person arrested, leaving the actual killer to continue to kill people, decreasing Sofie's chance to make it to adulthood if the cold isn't enough to do her in.
Im pretty sure you would always get the wrong clues and then find out that the killer wasn’t actually caught
@@thegameranch5935 You can catch the real killer. Done it before. Though it's been awhile since I played Skyrim, so I don't really remember how you're supposed to figure out without prior knowledge.
@@alexanderticonuwu7591 yeah thats what I said
@@thegameranch5935 I think what they mean is, you can catch the killer without getting the wrong clues, and without getting the wrong person jailed before you catch the killer.
*[Quest Spoilers Here]* , but this game is like 11 yrs old, so if you havent done the quest by now, idk what to tell ya...
While the quest marker wont immediately point you to the wizard, when it updates saying to go the steward to tell on the wizard, **DONT** go to the steward "catch" the killer. You instead must go to and confront the wizard yourself. He'll scoff at you for accusing him, but will progress the quest along to where the killer will now attack at night after you talk to him. So you can then catch the killer right after talking to the wizard without having him imprisoned
@@vauni98FUCK. I knew something wasn't right about that quest..
I can't reload now, because I've done way too much progress and I'd rather not have to do it all over.
I think that Lucia is being fed by Hulda, cause if the dragonborn steals from the bannered mare, she can send hire thugs to kill you.
Lucia is fucking ruthless…
@@masterneloth Hell yeah hehe, she makes good use of the septims we give her
@@masterneloth Lucia isn't a beggar. She's the Beggar Queen. You got got.
Another reason to love Hulda my mommy
Of the street orphans, if you don't adopt them, they should be adopted by the other residents, depending on your choices, like Sofie been adopted by Quintus Navale where she can learn to turn her flowers into potions
❤ that would make such a great mod!!! I hope someone does that
I adopt Sofie every playthrough as well, both for the reasons you laid out here, and the additional reason of Sophie being my daughter's name and if I didn't adopt her in game my conscience wouldn't let me sleep at night.
I always adopt Sofie. I also adopt Sissel after wiping out her Dad in the most painful way possible while leaving his other daughter Britte destitute. I know that's harsh but she's an absolute cowbag.
Britte is someone who is abused by the garbage Lemkil and so lashes out at Sissel for that. I think if she was raised better she wouldn’t be such a “cowbag” lol. But I understand what you mean
@@masterneloth very good point MAYBE, I'll give Britte a home in my next save but Lemkil has to die. Great video. Throughly enjoyed it.
Wouldn't Sissel be sad if something happens to her sister?
My favorite thing about Lemkil is that he'll randomly give you a quest to beat up one of his daughters because of their low relationship score and the radiant quest doesn't check if the target is a kid. Classic Bethesda oversight!
Lemkil just started a fight with everyone at the inn and lost… His nasty temperament got him in the end.
Absolutely not my fault in any way. 😇
I'm with you! I have to adopt Sophie in almost every play through. She's too adorable, thanking you for just talking to her and acknowledging that she exists. Then seeing her sleep in the snow.... holy heart string tug. Even if I'm trying to go for an evil immersive play through, I'll find myself rationalizing why I'd adopt her. I also usually side the Imperials. So I save her, then torch the rest of the city. Oh well.
Yooo same, I once almost finished the civil war, then remember her being in the city, slipped in during the night and adopt her away before I slaughter the Stormcloak
Personally I always adopt Sophie and Lucia. Both girls really have a pretty rough life and as far as things go it stands to reason that neither one is likely to survive if they are not adopted soon. With the two boys outside Honorhall I always believe that in the end they have a future as they do have work, are mostly under shelter, and they are eating pretty regularly while the same can't be said of Lucia or Sophia on any count.
But that assuming I don't have the multiple adoption mod installed. In that case all four orphans gets adopted and if Grelod ends up dying through one of the many glitches Runa also gets a home... five is enough, six? That's just too many.
Cant they become followers and join your party so you could technically adopt them all?
@@youtubestudiosucks978 the multiple adoption mod doesn't allow you to turn children into followers. That's another mod.
I remember eventually kids in Skyrim turn from a cute pet that talks, to a fun game of running around your house in order to avoid paying them allowance.
I always give them the most allowance so they leave me alone, but then I come back and they either ask for more money (greedy bastards, wonder where they get it from lol) or they're like, "I got you something. I hope you like it." and they give a gold ring and you have to stand there not wanting to murder them lmao
Skyrim TH-camrs nowadays: "We're running out of content! We need more Elder Scrolls 6 news!"
Master Neloth: *Top 10 Orphans*
I feel Lucia needs her own revenge story - Tragically losing her parents so young. And then kicked off the farm she grew up on, by her own aunt and uncle, who greedily took it over. Lucia then gets adopted by the Dragonborn, who heard her tale and vowed to train her into a warrior. Lucia trains for years with the Dragonborn - and then finally - she returns to the farm, that was stolen from her, and massacres everyone on it to reclaim her birthright!
Dragonborn watches on with pride and joy, a tear rolling down the cheek... "That's my girl!"
Windhelm logic: send off Aventus, who has a house and is reasonably well off, to the orphanage. ignore Sofie who sleeps in the snow and is probably starving while a serial killer prowls the city every night.
As a Molag Bal worshipper, even I buy all of Sophie's flowers when I see her and she was also the first child I ever adopted.
Sofie is one of the Orphans I will always adopt (even though I didn't for my recent playthrough) because I just feel really bad for her. I adopt her to save her from the freezing cold and also she might be magic. For some odd reason when I buy flowers from her she will also sell you flower baskets which seems normal, UNTIL I saw her selling 214 Flower Baskets! To make it weirder she appears to be making more every 7 seconds. The last time I spoke to her to buy flowers, all of a sudden she had 330 Flower Baskets for sale! I don't know how often this bug happens but it made me laugh for like 10 minutes 😂. So you should only adopt her to save her from the cold, but if you're a gold digger, there is another reason to adopt her.
Get the merchant perk. If you don't buy them all right before adopting her, you run the chance of not being able to give her gifts at your house. The merchant perk is needed for the buying of her baskets.
@@sophiemendez5567
I didn't adopt her for my current playthrough. I wanted to change things up this time around. But thanks for letting me know that.
@@sophiemendez5567 I kind of wondered why I could buy them off of her with some of my characters lol
I always adopt Sissel after killing her abusive dad :( It's so sad to hear her talk about how both her dad and twin sister hate her and beat her so I always try to give her a better life (plus she knows magic and dreams of paarthunax so she's the perfect daughter of the dragonborn i think!!)
Hot take: we should've been able to take over and improve Honorhall Orphanage after becoming a thane of the Rift.
The combination of your username and the video title made me think this was gonna be some hilarious Telvanni-tier fuckery, but it's actually very wholesome and I agree with you on all points. I'd adopt all of them if I could (why tf the limit of 2, Bethesda?) but I always adopt some combination of Sophie, Alesan, and Lucia. They're most desperately in peril and in need of someone that will actually care for them. Sophie's in immediate danger at all times, Alesan is going to seriously hurt himself one day, and Lucia has nothing except begging.
Edit: welp now I want to play again
Whiterun might not seem cold but "there's a chill in the air, cold won't be good for my crops"
Im glad we all know that sophie is a key character in the game and a vital importance to adopt
I always play as a male argonian, always marry scouts many marshes, and always adopt Sofie and Lucia. I try my best to give my family the best life possible at Lakeview Manor and it makes me feel good about myself every time I come back home from adventuring.
I love your play style dude! Two argonian dads taking in the orphans girls and raising them is quite adorable
Honestly I just love scouts many marshes, best husband.
No way, that's my exact setup too, haha! I love that silly little family so much
@@ImposterTheory wait thats literally my playthrough too. I'll adopt different kids for different files for role-playing purposes, but id say I adopt the same kids, marry the same man, and have them move into the same house.
I always adopt Sophie, every time, along with Blaise. I love the idea of children whose birth parents were on opposing sides, being adopted by the same person and growing up to love and understand each other, without letting those allegiances tear them apart. I’ve though of adopting other kids, like Alesan, but I just…Blaise and Sophie have always been my first kids, in a way. I could never change that. I’m glad a mod let me adopt them all, though! 😂
Really, adopt *all* of them? I never know that. I'm looking for that mod. Thanks!
I had never played an elder scrolls game until about a month ago when my friend gave me his copy of Skyrim. As soon as I met Lucia in whiterun I started grinding so I could buy a house for her to live in. The next kid I met was Sophie, and I met her seconds after finding out that young women in whiterun were being murdered. So of course I adopted her immediately. I've grown so attached that I don't know if I'll be able to adopt any others in future playthroughs.
The title of the video gave me whiplash, something so hilarious about the concept of tier list of orphans
today i'm going to be... ranking orphans
You forgot Meeko! His father died and he roams the woods looking for help! - such a good boy. The best boy. 🐶
I bring him home and my kids love him, so of course I adopt him as well. The full package.
It's not like gold is scarce in Skyrim
I always adopt him and bring him home for my kids, though strangely my kids and such eventually all hate him, and I have no clue how to stop it or prevent it. :')
umm........meeko's a dog........ and dogs don't matter as much as children do.
@@chereseplatt686 You picked a bad time to get lost, friend...
@@chereseplatt686 take that back now
In my current playthrough, I often travel through Windhelm and go out of my way to buy Sophie's flowers at every chance. Unfortunately however, at level 47, I am still homeless outside of the Archmage's Quarters and some Creation Club homes that I don't care for and haven't settled down yet. I'm thinking of trying the Solitude home though as I've never lived in that home before
If you want to use a house mod you should use any of Dovahkiinathay's player home mods as all of them are great
@@RussianKitty Thanks! I'll look into them!
@Charon the Toaster Because I wanted it this time around and literally no other reason
Another excellent house mod is TNF House renewal (I think that's the right name) it updated the vanilla houses interiors and their great
Anytime I find myself in Windhelm, I make sure to buy all of Sophie’s flowers.
even if I don't adopt her (some characters I do, some I don't) if I don't I always by all her flowers, *Always*
I wish we could do more with the kids. Like, train them by taking them on quests that's safe for them, and teaching them magic. Basically, I want a Skyrim life simulator 😂
I have always wanted to adopt Sophie in my playthroughs. But almost everytime she glitches out and doesn't come home after I had adopted her. So I have never been able to adopt her but in order to make up for my faulty game I do buy her flowers whenever I am in Windhelm.
Same. I've tried adopting her multiple times, but she's always bugged.
That bug only happened to me once, when I adopted her while she wasn't at the location she sells flowers from. I think it happens when her AI is having her go to bed or something.
I've never had that happen what edition/ platform are you playing on?
@@vineousvondrake2456 Happened to me with Switch version.
@@rallaa941 I have legendary edition on the ps3 that might be it lol
In my headcanon I like to think that after becoming Herald of the Companions, Lucia is taken in to Jorrvaskr to help Tilma the Haggard.
And yes, I aslo always adopt Sofie no matter what. Windhelm is the coldest damn city in Skyrim and she sleeps outside in some corner, most likely hungry and definitevely afraid.
No way in hell am I allowing that.
Samwell remains an orphan for being too awesome 😎
Literally my logic in a nutshell 😎
It's always Runa and Sissel for me. Runa will easily become a fine warrior some day and won me over quickly and Sissel is clearly special, having interesting dreams and a knack for magic. They feel like a good balance
I have an entire Dunmer character centered around Sofie. The premise is that she's a Dunmer who dislikes Nords and is prejudiced against them. She's a necromancer and raises Nord corpses and traps Nord souls. Her character arc is adopting Sofie who becomes her whole world.
Well in my first play through there was a random encounter spawn in riverwood where the cultists came after me. The cultist killed the riverwood blacksmiths, leaving their daughter Dorthe alone.
I watched for days as she just stood over her parents bodies going “*sigh* what am I supposed to do now?”
So naturally, I went and built a house because it was my first time playing and I only had the Lakeview manor land available.
That’s how I came to be Dorthe’s mom 😊
*rolling in a year late to say;* Sofie and Sissel. Best adopted child combo. Sofie is a wonderful child who deserves a good life, and Sissel needs saved from abuse. She also has dreams of Party Snax and as the Dragonborn that just means a family trip to see Daddy Party Snax.
Sofie is always my number one. I just can't leave her out there in the cold peddling flowers. As for my second, when I played vanilla, it was a toss up between Lucia in Whiterun or Runa from Honorhall Orphanage (what can I say, I like her hustle attitude). Thankfully I've played with mods for years now and have the multi-adopt mod so I can get all three girls!
The only thing keeping Sofie alive in Windhelm is her racial resistance to frost damage.
Sophie is my 100% must adopt every run child. I feel so bad for her and she’s always so appreciative to have a family.
I usually adopt Sophie and Lucia. Lucia just tugs at my heartstrings, and as an Imperial I like to think that I was the one who killed Sophie's father in battle and I am taking care of his daughter as repentance
Sophie should use an alchemy table to make those flowers into potions. To then sell and rent a room.
In my first playthroughs I adopted Runa and Blaise. But after discovering Sofie and Alesan, I always adopt them because of the extreme conditions they have to endure. If I had the option, I'd also adopt Blaise and Lucia simply because they both dont have roofs over their heads. But bethesda decided to make shit hard
My Go-To adoption options are Blaze and Sophie. Having the kids of former Imperial and Stormcloak soldiers under the same roof, is kinda symbolic.
Teacher: there will be a test which is worth 90% of your grade tomorrow
Me at 3:00 a.m:
You think that’s bad? Watch the Augur of Dunlain video by Camelworks…
I love Sofie! She's sweet, kind hearted and tries her best even in the worst situations. I tried to adopt different kids once, but of course it didn't work out lol this girl deserves to live a beautiful life.
You can only choose 1 child to adopt because Sofie is mandatory. She's Skyrim's Matchstick Girl.
I saw her first during the daytime and that was bad enough but when I saw her laying on the cold ground, I knew that something had to be done.
I play with Frostfall and have to be careful not freezing to death in Windhelm. There are also a mod that puts beds in the game for the homeless orphans.
What I chose to watch at 3:47 am when I have an exam in the morning.
Sofie: " buy some flowers? please?"
Me: * buys entire inventory regarles if I need them or not*
I adopted Braith by doing the obvious because I felt sorry for her, her parents ignore her and pan her off to one another when they don’t want to acknowledge her which is why I think she bullies Lars so much and why she’s so defiant to everyone until you adopt her she’s like a normal child you’d find she’s not angry anymore so I would make a case for Braith as well if you’re the type of player to do it 😊
I always adopt Sofie but flip between the rest of them for the second. In general though I always get two daughters because if I'm honest I feel like a male child would have a better chance at a good life than a young woman in Skyrim...
Honestly, it doesn't seem like sexism is much of a thing in Skyrim.
Sure, there's idiots like Mikael, but you see plenty of female warriors and business owners.
I’m so glad you made a channel between your various endeavors master neloth
This is the tierlist no one asked for, but we all needed! Ty
I cannot resist adopting sofie. Even during runs where I’m sure the character would never adopt or have families
Without fail her situation pulls their heartstrings so much they ALWAYS ADOPT HER….
Whenever I make a character that has good financial stability, I always adopt both Lucia and Sophie.
Great to discover this channel! As a fellow Telvanni enjoyer I mostly end up playing some variation of Dunmer Battlemage/Sorcerer and always end up adopting Sofie and Sissel when I walk through Rorikstead and inevitably end up unaliving Lemkil for violating my NAP by existing and speaking to me.
It just cracks me up that there’s a Skyrim Orphans Ranked video
1 thing to factor in is most these kids are nords. Nords in the lore are immune to cold. So you don't have to worry about them freezing to death.
I loved the video. Thank you❤
Wow. I know this is old but the simple idea of this video brought a smile to my face
Haven't seen your channel before, and you immediately called me a "fucking monster"
Welp, consider me subscribed
I usually adopt both Lucia and Sophie Becuase I usually have a gay marriage. My male nord always tends to Marry either Farkus or the male orc from Markarth you can marry. and people say it’s cute for a gay couple to have a daughter
Is gay marriage possible in Skyrim? or did you use a mod?
@@0k_s0rry65 all Skyrim NPCs that can be married are bisexual, no mod needed
@@0k_s0rry65 you can marry any that are marriageable there are charcters that are and done that arent
the exact video i wanted to make, thanks!
Was not expecting that much passion at the end😂
Of course, after the children are adopted, they simply become generic adopted children and do not have distinct personalities. The entire system seems like it is only partially completed.
My issue adopting Sophie is that she is always so bugged.
I've adopted her three or four different playthroughs, and she has NEVER behaved correctly.
I have her right now on a playthrough... She's in my home, but if I click on her she says, "I'll collect my things and meet you at home."
😒
you dont need to convince me to adopt Sofie i always do
Yea excalty. Calm tf down about sofie Its just a game.
Plus I always buy flowers from her everytime I go 2 Windhelm. Plus idgaf if u think I'm a malog bal worshipper if I don't buy flowers from her.
*"Sophie's mother died when she was very long" 😂🤣*
It’s too bad that Sophie is often glitched and even if you adopt her she may not show up at your house 😢
Happened to me with the Whiterun girl and the home was the 7500 gold next door in the Anniversery Edition.
I also always adopt Sophie... and most times, also Alesan. Oh, and of course Meeko. And I also always took Illia as my steward, because I'm not going to let her permanently hang around the place where we killed her hagraven wannabe mother (which I tested, and the mother's body never despawns, spooky that one). For the spouse position... I always change my pick for spouses, but I tend to pick the ones that can also become a companion. Oh, but Ingun Blackbriar is a special one, because by marrying her, we somewhat become a member of the Blackbriar family and able to take things from their home without stealing it, and since it's the Blackbriar family, I don't feel any guilt from taking everything from their home and selling them away. LOL
Whats worse about the number 1 pick is, not only is windhelm a freezing tundra, its one of the MOST freezing tundra's in all of skyrim, something we now know thanks to survival mode, which helpfully gives you a pop up message every time the temperature changes, and what it changes TO. And windhelm is one of only a hand-full of regions that pretty consistently stays around treachorously cold. The only other place i know that almost ALWAYS sticks around that range... *Is the pale AKA winterhold*
I always adopt Sophie and Alessan for the exact reason you stated. Our of all the orphans, they have it the hardest. I never considered the orphans at orphanage because of that and i never took the time to talk to them.
Francois
Hroar
Samuel
Runa
Sofia
Alesian
Blase and Lucia are tied for my favorite maybe I can do a save where I adopt both of them
Edit: I think you have convinced me to adopt Sofie I’ll try to in my next save
Good, you don’t need Lucia. Brenuin is enough of a paternal figure for her!
I killed braith’s parents inside her house. I’m leaving her smug ass in riften. It’s what she deserves for talking back to the Dragonborn
7:03 what's wrong with molag bal?
You mean aside from everything?
Everything.
the real question is what ISN'T wrong with Molag Bal?
@@ryhi5 Mehrunes Dagon is unironically more sympathetic than Molag Bal because he just wants to smash everything. Which is still pretty bad, just not as bad as anything Molag Bal will do to you.
@@TheKolboShow I compare Mehrunes Dagon to Beerus from DBZ. He represents a necessary evil. Things need to be destroyed in order for new things to be created. out with the old in with the new. Doesn't change the fact that Dagon is an Asshole, but compare him to Molag Bal. Where there's no purpose or necessity to Molag Bal's cruelty except to satisfy his own amusement.
@@ryhi5 an interesting thing is that some sources claim that Mehrunes Dagon was created to counter Molag Bal
Finnally! Orphan review!
Loved this and laughed so my husband woke up, you bastard :D
Lots of love from Finland :)
They really need a mod where the children grow up (either naturally or magically). Also, making them adults or teens is a rather creative way to remove their essential status. *evil smirk*
There's a teen in markarth. Hangs out by the butcher and jewelry lady. Hroki I think her name is.
If you can mod your game, Dragon's Keep has a home for six kids plus an academy with room for many more orphans or even for some of those children who need some help or straightening out, whose parents won't or can't. Has some neat other features like a friendly dragon too.
I've seen Lucia sweep the floors behind the counter at the bar. So she does make some money. Also i give her money every time i see her.
I didn't know I needed this video until I saw this.
We need more rankings like this
thank you mr. neloth of house of telvanni for the adoption advice! ( great vid buddy! )
i never seen this guy before but this video made me sub and its making me reinstail skyrim to save the kids
But wait... if I adopt Sophie I won't have a flower-selling merchant anymore... my potions will never look the same.
I've literally adopted the LAST two children every day i play the game...their stories are just so heart stringing i just couldn't refuse either...