Me, who just got dawnfang wearing full dwarven armor, getting "ambushed" (he walked right infront of me and tryed threatening me) by a thief in leather armor with two iron daggers:
Delphine not only asks us to kill a priceless asset. She dares say she will not speak to the dragonborn if he refuses to do so. When her whole bloodline is about protecting the dragonborn and obeying his orders. She goes against the very foundation of her organization she loves so much because of her karen issues.
Yeah that bit always threw me for a loop. "I am the Dragonborn and you protect and serve me, and obey my command, right?" -DB "Yes, that is right." -D "OK, cool. Parthaanaax lives, and goes free." -DB "lol no, fuck you nerd. Talk to that gross ass lizard again and you're out of the cool kids group." -D Stellar Bethesda writing at it's peak. How has this company not been gutted and replaced by former Obsidian employees by now? And also, how is fucking Todd still around? If I fucked up at my job as much as he did, I'd be blacklisted. Not even just fired. I'd have to go to another country for work.
@@elijahgrimm8052Todd has led teams that made games that sell like crazy. Starfield is his first true flop, even if Skyrim and Fallout 4 were mid they still sold insanely well. Profit > integrity to companies.
That guy at the beginning of the game who told the imperials to hurry his execution up. If he let them say his last rights, he may have survived due to Alduin attacking.
Well that guy didn’t have any knowledge of Alduin being about to attack Helgen so he assumed that they were all going to die anyway so might as well get it done with sooner rather than later however I will concede that he is still a bit stupid for not letting them read him his last rights
To be fair, the priestess giving those rites had just cited "the Eight Divines" like that wasnt one big final insult on top of fatal injury. "Oh, sure, lets get the gods, you know, the REAL gods, the ELVEN ones, not that one weird dude, to grant your souls peace as we kill you." The first guy in line for execution was the only one who could reasonably have interrupted (if anyone behind him had said hurry up, we could all agree that would be whack) and he took the moment to tell the Empire that he didnt need their false humility and faux generosity. The Stormcloaks were definitely led by an idiot, imo, but everyone gives that one guy grief when it's kinda badass (dumb, maybe, to not cling to life for every second he could).
Delphine really be acting like that crazy aunt/uncle, thinking that everything bad in the world and everythign they dont personally like is because of some shadowy group lmao
Isran -Sees Serana, a vampire, the thing he swore to destroy Dragonborn: "She can help us" Isran: "K makes sense, carry on" Esbern and Delphine -Hear that some old dragon is still alive, bothering no one Dragonborn: "He can help us" Esbern and Delphine: "NOOOOOO HE'S A MURDERER HE KILLED MY GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER HE CAN'T LIVE KILL HIM KILL HIM NOWWWW REEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
The difference between someone who listens to reason and someone who is blinded by dogma. Even the leader of an organized group of vampire hunters (who previously was in a religious order that fights vampires and other monsters) at least opens his ear. Because you can always kill the vampire later, after she has helped us.
Was the vampire in question knowingly responsible for centuries of torture and some of the worst crimes committed against humanity? I'm sorry I used to be all in favor of unquestionably sparing Paarthurnax, but even he admits that it'd be difficult to trust him Implicitly
@@kevinflynn4649 well he has tried to repent for his past actions, since he didnt have a choice, Alduin wouldve killed Paarthurnax if he disobeyed any of his orders
No, mercer is stupid because he messed with the one daedric prince he'll end being with after he dies. How can you pledge your soul to a demoness, then betray her while still alive. Mercer should have used the key to find a way to be immortal and left most of the loot in the thieves guild safe. He could have simply stolen the plans and only the truly valuable loot and left the rest. Instead he wanted everything and was arrogant. So he died.
I never believed Mercer was an overall idiot. He did frame Kailah for a very long time. Along, with covering Gallus’s death. So, that must of taken some time and effort.
Obviously, it's Delphine. But I'll throw one at yall. Septimus Signus. For such a clever guy, it's weird that he didn't see how having the DB do his work for him would definitely make him disposable to a Daedra.
It's always Delphine. Always will be. Party Snax is way more helpful in the main quest line than the "Blades" could ever be. Plus, he doesn't boss you around like Delphine does.
Not to mention Delphine calls the Dragonborn stupid if they ask if they can trust her, stating they shouldn’t have followed her if they didn’t. As if she didn’t just lead one of the most powerful mortals alive into her basement without a plan B?!
The Blades cannot even handle the Thalmor. Parthurnax has created a small group of Philosopher Dragons who could very well be up there in terms of power, wisdom and good as the Psijic Order. It doesn't take a genius to figure out who is the winning team. As it is, Esbern might die of old age in a few years, if the Thalmor don't find them first and Delphine will then truly be on her own, she won't even have an Inn to fall back on.
It should also be mentioned that he saved all mortal races *twice,* and all Delphine has ever done is both be the Elder Scrolls personification of Peggy Hill, and seemingly *trying* to waste our time. Don't even mention she's, by all accounts, a heretic to the Blades: Are we, as dragonborn, not basically her god?
Astrid is a solid choice. Defying the Nightmother wasn’t particularly wise, either; she was just obsessed with keeping her control of the DB and became blinded.
What about that Thalmor that comes to kill you after you get the Staff of Magnus, sent by Ancano? "You fool, you don't stand a chance". My mer, don't you realize what i just get rid of in this very same dungeon?
Honestly its not a bad plan have the adventure go through this supposedly hard dungeon and then kill them when they should be weakened. The only problem was that the adventure is over powered
I nominate Azzadal, the bard of Bard's Leap... his one line? "Been a long time since someone took the leap. Longer still since any survived it. I once performed the entirety of the Poetic Edda from atop Bard's Leap before trying my luck. Well, you can see how that turned out." ...yes, he's a ghost.
Nah, he just have a serious thrill issue, just like the player. And the fact that you met him is a proof that you did the very thing that he does, and survived unlike him.
Yea Delphine, Ulfric and Astrid are pretty dumb but you know whos worse? Chief Yamarz, bro either runs up on a giant and gets sent to Skyrims Space Program or tries takin on the dude he pays to kill said giant. Either way is a L for him
Fun note? You can "spare" him. Last time, I just left him there, and went back to his camp; The game ignores he isn't dead, and plays out as if he died attacking you, if memory serves.
"I'm too weak to fight the giant. Hey you, defeat the giant and you get money" Proceeds to fight the guy who is stronger than the guy he couldn't beat...
Honestly, if you're going to pick a Jarl for this list, it should be Laila Law-Giver, hands down. It is a minor miracle that her breathtaking cluelessness hasn't caused Riften to become overrun by bandits. Siddgeir, Korir, and Skald all deserve mention ahead of Balgruuf as well. But by far the biggest idiots in all of Skyrim are the pitiful souls who, having just seen someone single-handedly kill a dragon and then absorb its soul, decide it is a genius idea to attack said someone.
Considering that Maven is pretty much completely in charge in Riften, and it's the sewer infested with the thieves guild morons, you could argue that the city HAS been overrun by bandits. The imperial guy who takes over in Winterhold is pretty stupid, he is a total suck up to the brainless lunatics at the college.
It’s because everybody already knows how incompetent the rest of the Jarl’s are. This list is doing something different by highlighting the fact that Balgruuf’s far from perfect too
Whilst I agree that Mercer’s plan was flawed at best, he does also offer one of the best and most factual lines of dialogue in the game in my opinion with “When will you open your eyes and realise how little my actions differ from yours? Both of us lie, cheat and steal to further our own end”.
That's a good line, yes. But Paarthurnax has the best in the game, if not series: "What is better? To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?"
It's Tullius. Instead of having Ulfric executed first at Helgen, he allowed that captain to kill some random nobody stormcloak and then order an even more random unarmed nobody in hobo rags go second.
Or, it's said idiot captain, for insisting on executing said unarmed nobody for absolutely no reason at all; which would've doomed Skyrim if said random nobody stormcloak hadn't insisted on getting his own execution over with first.
Tulius. "okay men. we better kill Ulfric first. Just in case an ancient forgotten dragon who was lost in time thousands of years ago and has never been seen since, suddenly appears and lands on this very tower. Guard?? Why are you laughing? it could happen to anyone"
@@stopthink7202 Let's assume that they are smart and remember they are in enemy territory and that the locals might start an attack at any time to free Ulfric. Getting the big leader executed first solves so many more problems regardless of Alduin coming along.
Okay true, but... even if they executed Ulfric first... he wouldn't have been a dick head like the first Stormcloak and interrupt the priest lady. Even if he wasn't gagged--- I don't think he would have interrupted her. Which means that it literally didn't matter.
I’ve got a sleeper pick for the bottom half of the list, though I don’t know who I’d remove. Yamarz. The Orc Chief of Largashbur. Think about it: First, the Dragonborn discovers Largashbur, and likely, saves the Orc settlement from a giant. At worst, the Dragonborn helps significantly. After that, the Dragonborn goes on a fetch quest to get the stuff to summon Malacath. Malacath, a Daedric Prince who has clearly seen everything that has been unfolding, is summoned and commands Yamarz to accompany the Dragonborn to Fallowstone Cave to slay a giant and retrieve Shagrol’s Warhammer. The Dragonborn can basically solo that giant, and another one found on the way to the Warhammer, as well as some bears. Only after that does Yamarz find his bollocks and, for whatever reason, decides he can beat the Dragonborn one on one as he doesn’t want the tribe to know the Dragonborn was responsible for killing the giant. That makes Yamarz an idiot because, while he’s scared of the giants, he thinks he can beat someone capable of easily solo’ing them. Worse than, even if Yamarz had won the fight against the Dragonborn (not a chance), Malacath would have still known that Yamarz didn’t kill the giant.
I'd still consider Delphine to be the biggest moron in Skyrim for thinking she has any right to order the Dragonborn around after pretty much saying the entire duty of the Blades is serving the Dragonborn. I really wish you could legitimately complete the main quest without her involvement instead of having to abuse the console to do it.
The quests and other stuff given when you kill parthurnax is technically a branch off the main quest and is not mandatory for any of the actual main story content, including dlc. It's just the blades radiant quests that are locked if you ignore that one.
@@Gyovali Yeah, but I typically ditch her as soon as I get the horn back. I never fight Sahloknir with her, don't do Diplomatic Immunity, and simply use the console to advance the main quest to the point where I need to get Dragonrend. Delphine's usually dead at that point anyway through more console magic.
@@Gyovalibut refusing to kill paarthurnax gives you access to grey beards radiant quests, which gives directions for words of power, imo that's more beneficial than getting exact locations of dragons when you're gonna get dragons randomly, and fairly common
Particularly bounty quests, clearing entire bandit camps for 100 gold... Oh, and joining a band of vampire hunters, running into a vampire on your first mission who has an elder scroll. Fails to kill her immediately, fails to secure the scroll, actually takes her to her castle and walks inside with a "come bite me" attitude
Ulfric started the rebellion after he basically reconquered Markarth for the Empire after it was taken by the Forsworn himself, was imprisoned by the Thalmor as a result, and was tortured for years, missing his father's funeral as a result, only to come out and see the Empire effectively bending the knee to the Thalmor. From his perspective, the Empire betrayed him, and every single soldier who ever served them. He even says as much when speaking to Galmar the first time you enter his castle. He asks Galmar why he fights, to which Galmar replies by saying that he fights so Ulfric can rule. Ulfric replies, regardless of whether or not you can be seen, to a man who would already do anything for him, by saying that he fights for his men, his home, his people, and his religion. Ulfric truly does deeply care for Skyrim. He's an extremely powerful warrior, and a very competent general. If he had an advisor less idiotic than fucking GALMAR, he'd genuinely have been able to kick Tulius out of Skyrim without the Dragonborn.
Delphine was fairly high in the list, and for the exact same reasons u might think however, there were a few that were quite a bit dumber, with Ulfric getting number 1
2:30 The funniest part of this is his farm is doing terribly despite his bragging, and his wife is almost certainly cheating on him at the temple she spends all her time at.
not only that, but the guy doesn't even have his own house. He rents the room on the second floor of the drunken huntsman. Every sentence he speaks is about how rich he is, but the idiot is so poor he has to rent a room in a bar.
That's hardly fair, and sounds like Stormcloak talk. Would you rather bide your time and accept an uneasy peace with the Thalmor? Or condemn your entire nation to death because you're stupid and stubborn? It was a tactical play. And the Stormcloaks are too dumb to see it.
I vote Lokir of Rorikstead, for trying to run away in a base full of soldiers trained with the bow. If he had bid his time, during the dragon attack he may have escaped.
I say it's the Imperial Captain in the beginning. If she had one single brain cell in her head, the conversation would've gone like this: Hadvar: "Captain, he/she's not on the list. What should we do?" Captain: "What was his/her crime?" Hadvar: "Beats me." Captain: "Well, he/she clearly doesn't belong here then. Let him/her go!" Hadvar: "By your orders, Captain."
@@JStryker47 is kinda weird that two people who got caught presumably around the same time are so different in that regard. Why was the horse thief on the list, and not the unknown -insert race here-that was caught around the same time? Is stealing a horse such a great crime that it deserves the same punishment as the stormcloaks?
It's Todd Howard. There's no such thing as a Bethesda game without bugs, glitches, broken npcs, and more updates to futher break the game that the modders fixed. But by the end of the day "It just works!".
I just got the version that can be played on my coffeemaker. The graphics aren’t great and the controls are a little jank, I also keep burning my hand, but it was worth the $20.
I felt more like all the teachers were the type of academics who just want to focus on their own research and don't give a shit about teaching. It's very "try not to get yourselves killed or blow up the world, but I'd prefer that to you bothering me".
I think the Imperial captain who decides to sentence you to death for the crime of "Can't be bothered to check" at the beginning of the game deserves a nod. She's probably the primary cause for at least half of the games where the Dragonborn sides with Ulfric.
Fair. And goodness knows Stormcloak Dragonborn is the worst variant of the timeline except for Vampire Lord Dragonborn... and even then that's only in lore. In game play you mildly inconvenience people by making it a little dark. Whereas Stormcloak Dragonborn condemns the entirety of Tamriel to Thalmor control after they fuck off at the end of the story.
@@zehkiel8018 A strong Skyrim is more likely to be able to save the Empire from the Thalmor than a weak Empire that includes Skyrim to save itself. Ulfric is a powerhungry ahole and the worst possible leader, but his cause is right and a Free Skyrim can become strong and when the Thalmor attack again, they have a better chance to save the day. Imperial held Skyrim would be subject to rebellion after rebellion. Let's not forget that Ulfric was a dupe of the Thalmor, he was their captive, released in order to make trouble. The White-Gold concordant was designed to isolate Cyrodil from it's provinces. Hammerfell lost territory they would never surrender so the Empire had to cut them off and Talos worship was banned to cut the Nords out. Should the Imperials win, the Thalmor would just release more prisoners of war to create another rebellion.
@@charimonfanboy Except it won't be a strong Skyrim. They're going to drive out every non-Nord and cripple themselves, handicapping their population. Because the Stormcloaks are just that short sighted and little better than Reachmen.
@@zehkiel8018 Self rule is not the same as expel everyone else. Ulfric and the stormcloaks rule Windhelm with no Imperial oversight. They still accepted dunmer refugees and never expelled them. There's even Altmer merchants in the city who own property. It's pretty far from ideal, but they are there, unexpelled or murdered or anything. And this is the city the most racist stormcloaks fled to. Elsewhere, ruled by more moderate Jarls, you just wouldn't see it happening
In my latest playthrough, he ran up to me when I was attempting to hunt some bandits. I was hidden, he was not. I survived the encounter with the bandits, he did not 🤷♀
@@arashimifune2853 haha nice. The last time I saw him, his pursuer ran right past him, almost bumping into the schmuck, asking "have you seen some ugly schmuck round here?" (Paraphrasing of course)
That was actually a thing, mostly in late medieval cities. The thief would grab the goods from the mark, secretly palm the goods to a bagman and run off. If the city guard catches the thief, he has no stolen goods on him, he might not be arrested. But if the bagman was caught, there was a common excuse of "I was an innocent bystander, threatened to hold these goods, honest" Which is unlikely because the whole point is palming the goods off is meant to be done fast and secret, which isn't possible if you have to talk to the bagman.
I'd have put Mogrul on the list, he really shouldn't have put a debt on the one who defeated Miraak. And claiming the guards will put a bounty on your head if you draw on him... Will a bounty on hour head help his grow back?
Astrid is Not Smart when you first meet her. She knows that you're capable of killing, she's just kidnapped you, and then she puts you in a shack with all your weapons and potions and spells before commanding you to follow her orders. She has no backup and no escape route. She simply lounges on a shelf, completely open to attack. Then, after you've introduced her head to a warhammer, a questline opens up where you can easily travel to the Dark Brotherhood headquarters and slaughter everyone. Her pointless posturing and empty threats lead very shortly to the destruction of her organisation. Well done, Astrid.
To be fair, she manages to kidnap the dragonborn with seemingly little difficulty. She probably got lax when she was able to drag you all the way from whatever bed you chose to nap in, to a grimey shack all the way out past Morthal. It's almost comical, imagining the lengths she has to go to to make the journey if you are sleeping in somewhere like Riften.
there's a theory about that first meeting with astrid that I don't fully believe but would definitely explain her idiocy here. She tells you that someone in the room with you has a contract put out on them but doesn't tell you who. That contract could be on one of the other people she kidnapped, but it could also be on you or her. If you kill her in the shack, her last words will be "well done", which implies that either she was the one with the contract or that she is just complimenting the dragonborn. If the contract is actually for her, then it would make a lot of sense for her to leave herself so defenseless, it would just mean that she wants out of all of it. Or, the more likely scenario, Bethesda didn't put any thought into it and just thought it would be a cool intro.
@@poilboilerBig volcano was always there, just more of the insides became outside lately. Prime vacation spot still but just remember to bring extra sunscreen.
Seriously. He actually respects the dragonborn, which automatically puts him leagues above the intelligence of countless other characters that were absent from this list. If anything, put one of his bratty children on the list, but not Balgruuf.
I don’t particularly like Delphine for everything that’s already been covered, but I can at least see some of her potential reasonings no matter if I don’t agree with them. Astrid literally thought the father of someone they killed was going to leave them be….seriously? She brought that fate upon herself and I think that’s what makes her the stupidest.
While Rolf IS stupid (mostly about harassing someone who could probably get him unemployed and homeless), racism in Skyrim is must lower and tamer than in any previous TES game.
Say that to Empire-lovers, those guys would not pass any option to tarnish any faction wanting independence, even if said option is ultra-nit-picked or even fabricated.
Khajiit are banned from urban areas, and Argonians are banned from entering Windhelm proper. Morrowind had slavery, so it was definitely worse. Racism in Cyrrodill was present, but it was generally depicted as undesirable and not necessarily mainstream. There was the religious lady who made the city guides, and I think one of the Countesses was a psychopath (If I'm remembering correctly).
Nords have every right to be racist, how long this discussion is gonna last? It's their land! Everyone else came here of their own free will, so they have to respect whatever nords are doing.
There is a mod that allows you, the dragonborn and therefore leader of the blades, to put your foot down and tell her you will not kill paarthunax, and she drops the matter. Should have been in the base game.
The biggest idiot is the Dragonborn. He/she is asked by an immortal philosopher dragon why he/she should defeat Alduin, and the best argument he/she can come up with is "'cos I like this world". The Dragonborn has the once in a millennia power of a demigod, but instead of taking control, he/she plays second fiddle to all the other squabbling idiots of Skyrim and does their bidding.
I'd say the emperor for submitting to the thalmor in the first place. If it wasn't for him, his nation wouldn't be wasting countless lives on a civil war.
Riiight... instead of wasting EVERYONE's life by resisting, and getting most of cryodiil slaughtered. Politics are a bitch, and "resist to the last man" only sounds good in theory, not practice
@@DragonPaladin01he threw all of the other nations under the bus to save cyrodil. The thalmor were in just as bad a position and are hated even in their own country. (They massacred many of their own kind to set up their regime.)
You do realize that if he had not submitted the Empire would have been completely destroyed and there’d be even more massacres across Tamriel. Sometimes you must lay low in order to survive.
@@RedCommunistDragon No, only cyrodil would have been taken. The main thalmor army was already defeated. Also what part of, let’s let our enemies have full control over our government to stir up strife snd weaken our infrastructure even further sounds like a good plan. Were the germans defeated by people surrendering to them?
A fact to consider for Ulfirc is the dossier the Thalmor has on him. He was convinced under interrogation that information coerced from him led to the Empire losing the capital, only to be allowed to escape. While not working with the Thalmor directly, the Thalmor have been secretly supporting his rebellion as a proxy war to more easily subjugate the Empire by only doing enough for the civil war to become stagnant. Ulfric, for his part, blames himself for losing the imperial capital, and has convinced himself that he alone can set right the wrongs of the past by becoming High King on an independent Skyrim. Does this make him even more idiotic? It certainly doesn’t help make Ulfric look better.
@@rh3309 In my mind, Skyrim pretty much sets up the Dragonborn eventually becoming Emperor. One story of Talo's origin has Tiber Septim as a general under King Cuhlecain, only to succeed to the throne after King Cuhlecain's death. While it's not exactly the same, there seems to be parallels if the Dragonborn supports the Stormcloaks.
@@rh3309 How long is the Dragonborn going to hang around though? In most playthroughs, he is Man. And those only live up to about 100 years. Even if he survives for that long, he is going to eventually die of old age. He might have the soul of Dragon, but his body will fail unless other magic is involved.
Disagree 100% about Balgruff, he doesn't have the money to strengthen epair Whiterun's defenses. He knew that WR would be ground 0 in the Skyrim civil war and tried to ready WR for it by delaying it. He knew Ulfric was likely to attack WR first which is why he allowed Talos worship in WR to keep the people's loyalty. He knew the Empire wouldn't attack WR first because Tullius had limited resources and didn't require supply over land because he controlled the large port of Solitude. Balgruff isn't timid, he's shrewd.
Absolutely. Not to mention that he didn't station troops in Riverwood specifically so he could keep his neutrality. His hold is caught between a rock and a hard place and he's desperately trying to find a balance where they don't get crushed.
In my book, stupid means unintelligent, dimwitted, slow, etc. A person can do stupid things without being stupid. As much as I'd like to recognize Delphine as the stupidest person in the entire world, she doesn't strike me as particularly stupid. She's managed to survive all those years, and that takes some skill and intelligence. It's all the other traits she possesses that really makes me hate her. Characters who put their trust in the Daedra are definetly not the smartest people, but they are most often blinded by the Daedra, and are simply used as pawns by beings much more surerior than themselves. There are, however, one character in Skyrim, whom I consider to be a bit dumber than the average. Jarl Leila! She is easily manipulated by everyone around her, and let's Maven and the Thieves Guild do whatever they want.
I can’t decide if Delphine is the biggest idiot for wanting to murder one of the few beings who can genuinely help prevent the LITERAL END OF THE WORLD, or Esbern for following her lead.
I didn't even think about the Thalmor benefitting from the conflict. I always sided with the Imperials because: 1. Stormcloaks are just as racist as the Thalmor. 2. Ulfric gives me cult leader vibes. 3. Empire surrendered in hopes of ending the bloodshed, not because they like the Thalmor. The Stormcloaks then start causing more bloodshed and are focusing their attacks on the Empire, not the Thalmor. Over all, I agree with top pick. Ulfric is a self-serving moron.
Honestly, the fact that there are people who think Ulfric is a Thalmor supporter and his rebellion aims to weaken the empire is proof enough that his plan is stupid.
Sebi isn't in any danger, Maven just put him in timeout using the prison system. If she felt like it, he'd have gotten a medal and parade by order of the Jarl for murdering the guy.
Any companion Hey buddy, you know how I just gave you a legendary daedric greatsword, damage 230, with a fire damage enchant on it? Yes? Well why the heck are you using a hunting bow, damage 3?
@@defensivejackass4690General Tullius is an Imperial and if you sided with the Stormcloaks you can find him in Sovengarde before doing main quest stuff
In my opinion, it's Astrid. If everything goes the way she expected it to, she still ends up getting incinerated as a consequence for going against the wishes of Sithis and the Night Mother. If it doesn't, she dooms the Dark Brotherhood anyway due to the protagonist killing her when she expected them to kill a hostage instead, and then the protagonist proceeding to notify the legion who then send them to burn the Dark Brotherhood Stronghold to the ground complete with the entry password. All just because of a hunch that the person who thought they were doing a good deed by setting some orphans free from the tyranny of the wicked old lady running their orphanage is somehow a kindred spirit to people who are bloodthirsty assassins for a living. No matter what, she ends up dying because of her own stupidity and hubris and always at the bare minimum puts her entire faction in extreme danger if not outright getting it obliterated completely. The best you can do is delay the inevitable and pick up the pieces in the aftermath, there's no saving her from herself and the Brotherhood will suffer for her mistakes one way or another.
Farengar who knows I’m a dragonslaying master of the thu’um but sends a few bandits after me for stealing a soul gem, having given them a note with his name on it.
The 3-girl gang: Myself (Female; Hali), Lydia, Serana. I married Camilla...Sven and the freak are still saying the other thinks they can still get her...do they not realise that she is already married (to me). I threw their letters in the fire, and never delivered them.
Ah, old Nezeem, I soltrapped him and hid the soulgem in Dragonreach, so he can be there for an eternity. Sibbi Black-Briar I soultrapped and placed his soulgem beside Grelod The Kinds and Ancanos soulgems in the Soul Cairn. Savos is not only a incompetent idiot, he also got several of his friends killed in Labyrinthian.
Nah, just power hungry. But he managed to fool a lot of people with his randomly generated bandit hunt quest that Ulfric’s steward can give out as well.
@@firenze6478 Yep, he just want the throne, that's why he tries to provoke hostilities agains Ulfric and kisses Empires behinds. And even when you give him the throne via Empires bloody invasion, all those things he criticesed Ulfric for (including Argonian separation) stay exactly the same. "Oh, but I can't change it right now, it needs time, now they have to be separated for their own safety!" Oh sure, no, I'm not buying that crap, you bloody hypocrite! Btw, is Brunwulf Free-Winter essential character? I'm starting to hate him so much that some "accident" might happen...
I really don't get the 'Ulfric is a Thalmor agent' argument. Like... So is Tullius? The empire has essentially been puppeted by the Thalmor. Ulfric is advantagous for the Thalmor as long as the war rages on. If he wins, they lose all their assets in Skyrim and have another country that's openly hostile to the dominion. It's not hard to see that the empire is dying, it lost Black Marsh (which it never really controlled), Hammerfell, Morrowind, the entire Aldmerri dominion and half Skyrim. Oh and a huge region between Skyrim and High Rock (the reach). The empire is already dying. If however, it were to be attacked again I am fairly certain that Skyrim wouldn't hesitate for a second to join. Same for Hammerfell. Don't forget, this is the elder scrolls, mutual racism for elves is a very valid reason for coöperation. Both outcomes of the war are good, the most important thing is that the war ends.
It’s more so a situation of “ulfric died? That’s a shame” vs “General tullius died? Best case scenario for a failed plan” and weakened =/= dead, the empire is still in a situation to make a come back
@@Firefly11O3 true, but Skyrim if Skyrim falls, it's definitive, they'll lose a clear way to High Rock, so even a small rebellion there could make them lose their last province. If this were to happen, I do believe that coöperation would be the only real way to save Cyrodill, and the idea of something like a council of rulers from Skyrim, Morrowind, Hammerfell, High Rock, Cyrodill and possible even Black Marsh, just seems pretty cool.
To my understanding, the reasoning behind that theory boil down to these four points: 1. Thalmor dossier. 2. Ulfric was captured and tortured by Thalmor during the Great War, after which he was set free and labeled as an "asset". 3.Thalmor began their crackdown on Skyrim's Talos worship directly because of Ulfric's explicit demands of free worship during the Markarth incident. 4. Ulfric will never mount an attack on the Thalmor Embassy. For the record I don't think he's a spy for the Thalmor. I just think he's a bitter and stupid rable-rouser.
@@JJusmi I much prefer the way simpler explanation. War in Skyrim means a weakened empire, a weakened empire is good for the Dominion. I prefer the Stormcloaks not entirely because I believe they're the best of Skyrim but a multitude of reasons. - The imperial armor has a better gold to weight ratio - Stormcloak armor looks better for the small scale battles imo - Ulfric might work in the Thalmor interest but so does Tullius - The underdog rebellion feeling is just cool and taking cities feels cool. - I like Talos - I'm not thàt against removing Balgruuf - They don't try to behead me - It's implied that they don't torture folks - I don't like how so many people diminisch the stormcloaks to just racists - the racism makes a surprising lot of sense For the racism part, I want to explain myself. The Stormcloaks provinces are all next to Morrowind. They are experiencing actual migration. The Reach and Eastmarsh have the most nonhumans by far. The red mountain is something they actively experienced. Argonians not being allowed in Windhelm is true, but 100% of the Argonians who live in the cities are from Stormcloak territory and in Riften they're treated pretty aight (same for the Dunmer). As for the Dunmer. They're descriminated against in Windhelm, yes 100%, but have you played Morrowind? Goddamn the Dunmer are *ssholes (+ they're Demon worshippers). Everyone hates the Altmer. Bosmer are cannibals. Kajijt are hated even by the imperials. Reachmen are well... insane. And the empire isn't the best either. (Redguards Argonians and Orcs are cool though)
You... when you give up th e jagged crown, join the rebellion, walk into a castle of vampires, try to marry one, and fight the dragon that saved your dumb ass life
When a mod is created to resolve how dumb of a situation the player is presented with because of a single character, that character will always be biggest idiot. Without question, Delphine.
Ain't no way you're slandering my boy Ballin Balgruuf like that 😡. 1. He states his side in the war. "I stand with Whiterun" Fact. 2. Everyone knows if you don't have the grind set to repair your own home after a civil war invasion, you deserve to be homeless. Fact. So, do not put balgruuf's name in your mouth that way again or talos help me I'll have Lydia stand in every door way and be SO rude when you try to run past for 100 years😡
Maven Black-Briar is stupid. Sibbi is in prison and Hemming is a baby. When Maven dies her business is ruined. If she was smart she'd delegate some responsibility to them. She's doomed.
The thieves guild are more stupid as they have firmly shackled their lips to her rear. I bet if she gave the guild an order which contradicted what you, as the guild master, clearly opposed or contradicted they would probably side with her.
@@poilboiler Maven is funding the guild and is the reason the Riften Guard hasn't stormed the Ratway. Once Maven goes, they'll need to abandon Riften before the guards come through their tunnels.
@@vanyadolly Fun fact, after you do the quest to find or "find" the girl he is pissed at he stops being essential and you can snipe him through the bars. Even if you get caught and arrested Maven doesn't mind.
@vanyadolly Ingun is perfectly capable, to the point where I get a little disappointed that she's not a marriage option. She has no interest in Maven's business or her family. If anything, she seems desperate to leave Riften, I don't blame her. But once Sibbi is out of prison, Maven won't want anything to do with him. Mjoll even says that Sibbi is the worst of the lot. Painting the Black-Briars, the wrong shade so publicly will do that. Something Maven wouldn't stand for. I'd honestly argue that Ingun is smarter than Maven but points her intelligence in a different direction. I hope Ingun leaves. She's clearly fed up with the rest of her family.
Delphine trying to command thr Dragonborn who she's apparently sworn to serve to kill a Dragon who proved to be not only one of our biggest allies in the fight against Alduin, but also helping teach humanity the ways of the voice
He's a Thalmor indirect puppet. All the fiasco he brought to Skyrim with Stormcloaks helps weakening Skyrim from inside without Thalmor having to lift finger. Sure Thalmor doesn't want Stormcloak wins, but they don't want Imperials beat Stormcloaks either, because they want the civil war not ending as long as it gets and keep bleeding the realm. Whiever wins doesn't matter much. Ulfric already done ireversible damage of dividing Skyrim by killing Torrygg and instigating the rebellion that the victor of the civil bickering won't matter. I'm siding with Imperials coz the dumbass gotta get handed justice and I don't like Balgruuf replaced by that old busybody Grey-Mane, I'm siding with Stormcloak when I'm either anti-authority punk, a butthurt nationalist Nord or a Thalmor agent elf sabotaging Skyrim via letting Stormcloaks crippling what's left of the realm.
Probably that one thief that REALLY wants to rob me when he sees me in a fully enchanted Stalhrim armor.
“Nice try, but you don't scare me. I'm not going to ask again.”
“Don’t you walk away from me!”
Me, who just got dawnfang wearing full dwarven armor, getting "ambushed" (he walked right infront of me and tryed threatening me) by a thief in leather armor with two iron daggers:
Bwahahaha, true!!
Especially since thieves are supposed to *avoid* detection by their victims.
"Empty your pockets!"
Currently beast form werewolf...
Delphine, gotta be, I'm calling it.
Same
Absolutely
Delphine has 2 be de most hated character in Skyrim.
@@Sherrybirkin3020 For good reason as well.
Yup, the top DUO of Stupidity in this game
Delphine not only asks us to kill a priceless asset. She dares say she will not speak to the dragonborn if he refuses to do so. When her whole bloodline is about protecting the dragonborn and obeying his orders.
She goes against the very foundation of her organization she loves so much because of her karen issues.
Yeah that bit always threw me for a loop. "I am the Dragonborn and you protect and serve me, and obey my command, right?" -DB
"Yes, that is right." -D
"OK, cool. Parthaanaax lives, and goes free." -DB
"lol no, fuck you nerd. Talk to that gross ass lizard again and you're out of the cool kids group." -D
Stellar Bethesda writing at it's peak. How has this company not been gutted and replaced by former Obsidian employees by now? And also, how is fucking Todd still around? If I fucked up at my job as much as he did, I'd be blacklisted. Not even just fired. I'd have to go to another country for work.
And the Blades will finally die due to her inability to compromise or think of future ramifications.
@@elijahgrimm8052Todd has led teams that made games that sell like crazy. Starfield is his first true flop, even if Skyrim and Fallout 4 were mid they still sold insanely well. Profit > integrity to companies.
@@IndyMiraagaSo 76 wasn't one of the biggest game flops in history? Interesting.
@@elijahgrimm8052 He didn't lead the team that made it. In fact, it wasn't even made by Bethesda but another company entirely!
That guy at the beginning of the game who told the imperials to hurry his execution up. If he let them say his last rights, he may have survived due to Alduin attacking.
Well that guy didn’t have any knowledge of Alduin being about to attack Helgen so he assumed that they were all going to die anyway so might as well get it done with sooner rather than later however I will concede that he is still a bit stupid for not letting them read him his last rights
Lol i think that every time. Glad someone said it
To be fair, the priestess giving those rites had just cited "the Eight Divines" like that wasnt one big final insult on top of fatal injury. "Oh, sure, lets get the gods, you know, the REAL gods, the ELVEN ones, not that one weird dude, to grant your souls peace as we kill you." The first guy in line for execution was the only one who could reasonably have interrupted (if anyone behind him had said hurry up, we could all agree that would be whack) and he took the moment to tell the Empire that he didnt need their false humility and faux generosity.
The Stormcloaks were definitely led by an idiot, imo, but everyone gives that one guy grief when it's kinda badass (dumb, maybe, to not cling to life for every second he could).
How could he have possibly known that though?
@@Amadeus8484 By being smart. Duh.
Anyone else get mad when Delphine watches a dragon be resurrected by another dragon and then blame it on the Thalmor? Open your eyes!
no. I blame it on the morons that excuse themselves for being " writers".
"NOOOOO IT HAS THE BE THE THALMOR, MY CONSPIRACIES NEED TO BE ENFORCED! HELP ME, YOU IDIOT DRAGONBORN!"
Bitch, I ain't got time for this.
No no but uh (checks notes) the THALMOR are CONTROLLING the other dragon, yeah! Because uh... Thalmor!
Delphine really be acting like that crazy aunt/uncle, thinking that everything bad in the world and everythign they dont personally like is because of some shadowy group lmao
Da thalmor are behind za plot
Isran
-Sees Serana, a vampire, the thing he swore to destroy
Dragonborn: "She can help us"
Isran: "K makes sense, carry on"
Esbern and Delphine
-Hear that some old dragon is still alive, bothering no one
Dragonborn: "He can help us"
Esbern and Delphine: "NOOOOOO HE'S A MURDERER HE KILLED MY GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER HE CAN'T LIVE KILL HIM KILL HIM NOWWWW REEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
🤣
That's why Isran is GOATed.
Sucks that he can't be a follower on vanilla.
The difference between someone who listens to reason and someone who is blinded by dogma.
Even the leader of an organized group of vampire hunters (who previously was in a religious order that fights vampires and other monsters) at least opens his ear.
Because you can always kill the vampire later, after she has helped us.
Was the vampire in question knowingly responsible for centuries of torture and some of the worst crimes committed against humanity? I'm sorry I used to be all in favor of unquestionably sparing Paarthurnax, but even he admits that it'd be difficult to trust him Implicitly
@@kevinflynn4649 well he has tried to repent for his past actions, since he didnt have a choice, Alduin wouldve killed Paarthurnax if he disobeyed any of his orders
No, mercer is stupid because he messed with the one daedric prince he'll end being with after he dies. How can you pledge your soul to a demoness, then betray her while still alive. Mercer should have used the key to find a way to be immortal and left most of the loot in the thieves guild safe. He could have simply stolen the plans and only the truly valuable loot and left the rest. Instead he wanted everything and was arrogant. So he died.
It’s foolish to sell your soul to anyone, but betraying whoever already owns your soul is next-level idiotic
Probably could have used the skeleton key to free him from that pledge
@@noodler5583😂😂😂😂
This. Anyone who pledges to her is a knuckle dragger by default.
I never believed Mercer was an overall idiot. He did frame Kailah for a very long time. Along, with covering Gallus’s death. So, that must of taken some time and effort.
Obviously, it's Delphine. But I'll throw one at yall. Septimus Signus. For such a clever guy, it's weird that he didn't see how having the DB do his work for him would definitely make him disposable to a Daedra.
To be fair Septimus was driven crazy.
Yeah dudes old and senile
Septimus had gone three quarters insane by the time you meet him...
Great Vidd
@@Amadeus8484The fourth quarter when you return.
Savos can't sleep because his bed is too far away for him to go to it. He's not stupid, he's extremely tired. 😂
It's always Delphine. Always will be. Party Snax is way more helpful in the main quest line than the "Blades" could ever be. Plus, he doesn't boss you around like Delphine does.
Not to mention Delphine calls the Dragonborn stupid if they ask if they can trust her, stating they shouldn’t have followed her if they didn’t. As if she didn’t just lead one of the most powerful mortals alive into her basement without a plan B?!
Lol, Party Snax😂
The Blades cannot even handle the Thalmor. Parthurnax has created a small group of Philosopher Dragons who could very well be up there in terms of power, wisdom and good as the Psijic Order. It doesn't take a genius to figure out who is the winning team. As it is, Esbern might die of old age in a few years, if the Thalmor don't find them first and Delphine will then truly be on her own, she won't even have an Inn to fall back on.
It should also be mentioned that he saved all mortal races *twice,* and all Delphine has ever done is both be the Elder Scrolls personification of Peggy Hill, and seemingly *trying* to waste our time. Don't even mention she's, by all accounts, a heretic to the Blades: Are we, as dragonborn, not basically her god?
@@Umbra_Ursus Peggy Hill is a very apt comparison hahahaha
Has to be Astrid, did she really believe Commander Maro would not come after her after the dark brotherhood killed his son?
Astrid is a solid choice. Defying the Nightmother wasn’t particularly wise, either; she was just obsessed with keeping her control of the DB and became blinded.
Yeah. I always wondered about that one "I know we just murdered your son but how do you feel about a piece negotiation?" lol
Not to mention she betrayed Sithis. She falls into the "You betrayed the guy you gave your soul to" club. It's not a good club.
The thief with leather armor trying to rob a dragon born with a full set of dragon armor 😂
What about that Thalmor that comes to kill you after you get the Staff of Magnus, sent by Ancano?
"You fool, you don't stand a chance".
My mer, don't you realize what i just get rid of in this very same dungeon?
And with a iron dagger.
Honestly its not a bad plan have the adventure go through this supposedly hard dungeon and then kill them when they should be weakened. The only problem was that the adventure is over powered
"You may expect me to be weakened after this whole ass dungeon,unfortunately for you i have more healing potions than all pharmacies of Tamriel."
Frankly, the Thalmor are allergic to not picking fights with guys who butcher dragons on a regular basis.
I nominate Azzadal, the bard of Bard's Leap... his one line?
"Been a long time since someone took the leap. Longer still since any survived it. I once performed the entirety of the Poetic Edda from atop Bard's Leap before trying my luck. Well, you can see how that turned out."
...yes, he's a ghost.
I don't know maybe he was just depressed
@@breakpain999or stupid
As you know about him... You must have... kinda... jump it too. ... ? xD
Nah, he just have a serious thrill issue, just like the player.
And the fact that you met him is a proof that you did the very thing that he does, and survived unlike him.
The whole thing is poking fun at Assassins Creed. You're just lucky they didn't put a haybale at the bottom
"Kill paarthurnax"
"Or?"
"I'M...i'm just gonna sit in sky heaven temple...until..you do...but I'm telling you what to do ok? cause I'm important"
"k"
Yea Delphine, Ulfric and Astrid are pretty dumb but you know whos worse? Chief Yamarz, bro either runs up on a giant and gets sent to Skyrims Space Program or tries takin on the dude he pays to kill said giant. Either way is a L for him
Fun note? You can "spare" him. Last time, I just left him there, and went back to his camp; The game ignores he isn't dead, and plays out as if he died attacking you, if memory serves.
Exactly
"I'm too weak to fight the giant. Hey you, defeat the giant and you get money"
Proceeds to fight the guy who is stronger than the guy he couldn't beat...
Honestly, if you're going to pick a Jarl for this list, it should be Laila Law-Giver, hands down. It is a minor miracle that her breathtaking cluelessness hasn't caused Riften to become overrun by bandits.
Siddgeir, Korir, and Skald all deserve mention ahead of Balgruuf as well.
But by far the biggest idiots in all of Skyrim are the pitiful souls who, having just seen someone single-handedly kill a dragon and then absorb its soul, decide it is a genius idea to attack said someone.
Considering that Maven is pretty much completely in charge in Riften, and it's the sewer infested with the thieves guild morons, you could argue that the city HAS been overrun by bandits.
The imperial guy who takes over in Winterhold is pretty stupid, he is a total suck up to the brainless lunatics at the college.
What would you call Maven black briar then?
Laila is just a puppet. Maven is the real ruler of Riften.
@@KaoruMzk exactly. How could Riften be overrun by bandits, when it's already in the hands of the local organized crime.
It’s because everybody already knows how incompetent the rest of the Jarl’s are. This list is doing something different by highlighting the fact that Balgruuf’s far from perfect too
The biggest idiot is often found in the cloud district
According to his wife he's usually found with his head firmly up Balgruuf's ass.
I wouldn’t know, I don’t get there very often
Ironically he's almost never there, instead he's harassing people in the market
Nazeem?
More specifically, the biggest idiot is found in the Jarl's backside. At least according to said idiot's wife.
Nazim for assuming I haven’t been to the cloud district. I operated 4 air bnbs in the cloud district
Whilst I agree that Mercer’s plan was flawed at best, he does also offer one of the best and most factual lines of dialogue in the game in my opinion with “When will you open your eyes and realise how little my actions differ from yours? Both of us lie, cheat and steal to further our own end”.
The difference of Mercer and the player, is the player doesnt try to kill people obviously far stronger than them
That's a good line, yes. But Paarthurnax has the best in the game, if not series: "What is better? To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort?"
The thing about Mercer is KARLIAH , WHEN WILL YOU LEARN YOU, CAN'T GET THE DROP ON HIM.
@@Umbra_Ursus That’s also a great line
I do that kind of a lot, because stealth archer 😅 Granted, it does NOT always work out for me@@gabrielbarron7667
Isran is in a way an example of what Delphine could have done and realized help when he saw it, even if he didn't like where it came from.
It's Tullius. Instead of having Ulfric executed first at Helgen, he allowed that captain to kill some random nobody stormcloak and then order an even more random unarmed nobody in hobo rags go second.
A truly "you had ONE job, just the one" moment.
Or, it's said idiot captain, for insisting on executing said unarmed nobody for absolutely no reason at all; which would've doomed Skyrim if said random nobody stormcloak hadn't insisted on getting his own execution over with first.
Tulius. "okay men. we better kill Ulfric first. Just in case an ancient forgotten dragon who was lost in time thousands of years ago and has never been seen since, suddenly appears and lands on this very tower. Guard?? Why are you laughing? it could happen to anyone"
@@stopthink7202 Let's assume that they are smart and remember they are in enemy territory and that the locals might start an attack at any time to free Ulfric. Getting the big leader executed first solves so many more problems regardless of Alduin coming along.
Okay true, but... even if they executed Ulfric first... he wouldn't have been a dick head like the first Stormcloak and interrupt the priest lady. Even if he wasn't gagged--- I don't think he would have interrupted her. Which means that it literally didn't matter.
I’ve got a sleeper pick for the bottom half of the list, though I don’t know who I’d remove.
Yamarz. The Orc Chief of Largashbur.
Think about it: First, the Dragonborn discovers Largashbur, and likely, saves the Orc settlement from a giant. At worst, the Dragonborn helps significantly.
After that, the Dragonborn goes on a fetch quest to get the stuff to summon Malacath.
Malacath, a Daedric Prince who has clearly seen everything that has been unfolding, is summoned and commands Yamarz to accompany the Dragonborn to Fallowstone Cave to slay a giant and retrieve Shagrol’s Warhammer.
The Dragonborn can basically solo that giant, and another one found on the way to the Warhammer, as well as some bears.
Only after that does Yamarz find his bollocks and, for whatever reason, decides he can beat the Dragonborn one on one as he doesn’t want the tribe to know the Dragonborn was responsible for killing the giant.
That makes Yamarz an idiot because, while he’s scared of the giants, he thinks he can beat someone capable of easily solo’ing them.
Worse than, even if Yamarz had won the fight against the Dragonborn (not a chance), Malacath would have still known that Yamarz didn’t kill the giant.
I'd still consider Delphine to be the biggest moron in Skyrim for thinking she has any right to order the Dragonborn around after pretty much saying the entire duty of the Blades is serving the Dragonborn. I really wish you could legitimately complete the main quest without her involvement instead of having to abuse the console to do it.
The quests and other stuff given when you kill parthurnax is technically a branch off the main quest and is not mandatory for any of the actual main story content, including dlc. It's just the blades radiant quests that are locked if you ignore that one.
@@Gyovali Yeah, but I typically ditch her as soon as I get the horn back. I never fight Sahloknir with her, don't do Diplomatic Immunity, and simply use the console to advance the main quest to the point where I need to get Dragonrend. Delphine's usually dead at that point anyway through more console magic.
@@Gyovalibut refusing to kill paarthurnax gives you access to grey beards radiant quests, which gives directions for words of power, imo that's more beneficial than getting exact locations of dragons when you're gonna get dragons randomly, and fairly common
the dragonborn for being suckered into doing everything
But you're the dragon born.
Yes@@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852
Particularly bounty quests, clearing entire bandit camps for 100 gold...
Oh, and joining a band of vampire hunters, running into a vampire on your first mission who has an elder scroll. Fails to kill her immediately, fails to secure the scroll, actually takes her to her castle and walks inside with a "come bite me" attitude
Ulfric started the rebellion after he basically reconquered Markarth for the Empire after it was taken by the Forsworn himself, was imprisoned by the Thalmor as a result, and was tortured for years, missing his father's funeral as a result, only to come out and see the Empire effectively bending the knee to the Thalmor.
From his perspective, the Empire betrayed him, and every single soldier who ever served them. He even says as much when speaking to Galmar the first time you enter his castle.
He asks Galmar why he fights, to which Galmar replies by saying that he fights so Ulfric can rule. Ulfric replies, regardless of whether or not you can be seen, to a man who would already do anything for him, by saying that he fights for his men, his home, his people, and his religion.
Ulfric truly does deeply care for Skyrim. He's an extremely powerful warrior, and a very competent general. If he had an advisor less idiotic than fucking GALMAR, he'd genuinely have been able to kick Tulius out of Skyrim without the Dragonborn.
Delphine. I'm not even watching the video. But if it's not Delphine then this video is wrong
Delphine was fairly high in the list, and for the exact same reasons u might think however, there were a few that were quite a bit dumber, with Ulfric getting number 1
Agreed
2:30 The funniest part of this is his farm is doing terribly despite his bragging, and his wife is almost certainly cheating on him at the temple she spends all her time at.
So _that's_ why one of the priests has the key to their house!
@@frantisekvrana3902 Yeahhhhh she def made a copy in secret lol
And the other priestess is basically encouraging her to murder him.
not only that, but the guy doesn't even have his own house. He rents the room on the second floor of the drunken huntsman. Every sentence he speaks is about how rich he is, but the idiot is so poor he has to rent a room in a bar.
The DB assassin that came at me in broad daylight, with low level gear and no form of poison or plan.
Everyone in DB armor looks idiot
Fall Damage: Anything that benefits the Thalmor, is a bad thing in my book.
Empire: Am I not a joke to you?
That's hardly fair, and sounds like Stormcloak talk. Would you rather bide your time and accept an uneasy peace with the Thalmor? Or condemn your entire nation to death because you're stupid and stubborn? It was a tactical play. And the Stormcloaks are too dumb to see it.
I vote Lokir of Rorikstead, for trying to run away in a base full of soldiers trained with the bow.
If he had bid his time, during the dragon attack he may have escaped.
He’s the one who called the dragon lol
To be fair, he was panicking and did something idiotic, and that's not exactly the same as actually being an idiot.
Because it’s perfectly reasonable to expect a dragon attack to save you before your execution
I say it's the Imperial Captain in the beginning. If she had one single brain cell in her head, the conversation would've gone like this:
Hadvar: "Captain, he/she's not on the list. What should we do?"
Captain: "What was his/her crime?"
Hadvar: "Beats me."
Captain: "Well, he/she clearly doesn't belong here then. Let him/her go!"
Hadvar: "By your orders, Captain."
But the crime was illegally crossing the provincial border into a war zone. For all they know you're sneaking in to join Ulfric's clause.
"forget the list, he goes on the block"
tullius: wtf??? glad that bitch is dead
"He/She was caught trying to cross the border, same as the thief that just ran off"
@@SebasTian58323 You mean the horse thief who was *on the list?*
@@JStryker47 is kinda weird that two people who got caught presumably around the same time are so different in that regard. Why was the horse thief on the list, and not the unknown -insert race here-that was caught around the same time? Is stealing a horse such a great crime that it deserves the same punishment as the stormcloaks?
I am the biggest idiot in Skyrim for repeatedly plummeting to my death out of simple impatience.
😅😅😅😅😅
It's Todd Howard. There's no such thing as a Bethesda game without bugs, glitches, broken npcs, and more updates to futher break the game that the modders fixed. But by the end of the day "It just works!".
Todd: It just works (after unpayed modders fix it all for us).
Us, because we keep buying Skyrim.
How skyrim is greatest game
😂
@@NoahVercetti Good paypig. Todd Howard loves you.
Just bought Skyrim vr…. 😂
I just got the version that can be played on my coffeemaker. The graphics aren’t great and the controls are a little jank, I also keep burning my hand, but it was worth the $20.
I get the feeling it’s more a Mages Junior College
Mages Community College 😀
Mages Elementary School
I felt more like all the teachers were the type of academics who just want to focus on their own research and don't give a shit about teaching. It's very "try not to get yourselves killed or blow up the world, but I'd prefer that to you bothering me".
I think the Imperial captain who decides to sentence you to death for the crime of "Can't be bothered to check" at the beginning of the game deserves a nod. She's probably the primary cause for at least half of the games where the Dragonborn sides with Ulfric.
Fair. And goodness knows Stormcloak Dragonborn is the worst variant of the timeline except for Vampire Lord Dragonborn... and even then that's only in lore. In game play you mildly inconvenience people by making it a little dark. Whereas Stormcloak Dragonborn condemns the entirety of Tamriel to Thalmor control after they fuck off at the end of the story.
@@zehkiel8018 A strong Skyrim is more likely to be able to save the Empire from the Thalmor than a weak Empire that includes Skyrim to save itself. Ulfric is a powerhungry ahole and the worst possible leader, but his cause is right and a Free Skyrim can become strong and when the Thalmor attack again, they have a better chance to save the day.
Imperial held Skyrim would be subject to rebellion after rebellion. Let's not forget that Ulfric was a dupe of the Thalmor, he was their captive, released in order to make trouble. The White-Gold concordant was designed to isolate Cyrodil from it's provinces. Hammerfell lost territory they would never surrender so the Empire had to cut them off and Talos worship was banned to cut the Nords out. Should the Imperials win, the Thalmor would just release more prisoners of war to create another rebellion.
@@charimonfanboy Except it won't be a strong Skyrim. They're going to drive out every non-Nord and cripple themselves, handicapping their population. Because the Stormcloaks are just that short sighted and little better than Reachmen.
@@zehkiel8018 Self rule is not the same as expel everyone else. Ulfric and the stormcloaks rule Windhelm with no Imperial oversight.
They still accepted dunmer refugees and never expelled them. There's even Altmer merchants in the city who own property. It's pretty far from ideal, but they are there, unexpelled or murdered or anything. And this is the city the most racist stormcloaks fled to.
Elsewhere, ruled by more moderate Jarls, you just wouldn't see it happening
I like the the guy who runs up and forces you to take the sword, and without letting you say a word, says he will kill you if you "betray him"
And He never shows up again
In my latest playthrough, he ran up to me when I was attempting to hunt some bandits. I was hidden, he was not. I survived the encounter with the bandits, he did not 🤷♀
@@arashimifune2853 haha nice. The last time I saw him, his pursuer ran right past him, almost bumping into the schmuck, asking "have you seen some ugly schmuck round here?"
(Paraphrasing of course)
That was actually a thing, mostly in late medieval cities. The thief would grab the goods from the mark, secretly palm the goods to a bagman and run off. If the city guard catches the thief, he has no stolen goods on him, he might not be arrested.
But if the bagman was caught, there was a common excuse of "I was an innocent bystander, threatened to hold these goods, honest" Which is unlikely because the whole point is palming the goods off is meant to be done fast and secret, which isn't possible if you have to talk to the bagman.
@@charimonfanboy wow that's cool! Thx
Shoutout to the roadside thief running out to rob the werewolf. "Nice try, but you don't scare me."
I'd have put Mogrul on the list, he really shouldn't have put a debt on the one who defeated Miraak. And claiming the guards will put a bounty on your head if you draw on him... Will a bounty on hour head help his grow back?
Giving 1000 septims to Mogrul or giving 1000 septims to the guards if we fail at sneak killing him ...
Easy to find the best choice XD
@@martinquennery5336 Yeah, on top of that, sometimes the bounty for killing Mogrul is only 40 septims. Can be the same with Ondolemar.
Astrid is Not Smart when you first meet her. She knows that you're capable of killing, she's just kidnapped you, and then she puts you in a shack with all your weapons and potions and spells before commanding you to follow her orders. She has no backup and no escape route. She simply lounges on a shelf, completely open to attack.
Then, after you've introduced her head to a warhammer, a questline opens up where you can easily travel to the Dark Brotherhood headquarters and slaughter everyone. Her pointless posturing and empty threats lead very shortly to the destruction of her organisation. Well done, Astrid.
To be fair, she manages to kidnap the dragonborn with seemingly little difficulty. She probably got lax when she was able to drag you all the way from whatever bed you chose to nap in, to a grimey shack all the way out past Morthal.
It's almost comical, imagining the lengths she has to go to to make the journey if you are sleeping in somewhere like Riften.
@@ninjathis3009 Amusingly, I was indeed sleeping in Riften. I couldn't believe it when after killing her I looked at the map and saw where I was.
there's a theory about that first meeting with astrid that I don't fully believe but would definitely explain her idiocy here. She tells you that someone in the room with you has a contract put out on them but doesn't tell you who. That contract could be on one of the other people she kidnapped, but it could also be on you or her. If you kill her in the shack, her last words will be "well done", which implies that either she was the one with the contract or that she is just complimenting the dragonborn. If the contract is actually for her, then it would make a lot of sense for her to leave herself so defenseless, it would just mean that she wants out of all of it. Or, the more likely scenario, Bethesda didn't put any thought into it and just thought it would be a cool intro.
If you think Rolfe is racist, wait till you travel to Morrowind.
You mean the place that used to be where that big volcano is now located? :D
@@poilboilerBig volcano was always there, just more of the insides became outside lately. Prime vacation spot still but just remember to bring extra sunscreen.
That's too far just go to solitude and hear talius insult nords all day
"Yea he's racist, but other people are racist so it doesn't actually matter."
Delphine... I hate her, she wanted me to kill mario whom helped me
Let's-a go
Why is Baalgruff even on this list
Seriously. He actually respects the dragonborn, which automatically puts him leagues above the intelligence of countless other characters that were absent from this list. If anything, put one of his bratty children on the list, but not Balgruuf.
Probably the thief who watches me slay a dragon in dragonbone armor and precedes to try and rob me 😂 in rags with a dagger
I don’t particularly like Delphine for everything that’s already been covered, but I can at least see some of her potential reasonings no matter if I don’t agree with them.
Astrid literally thought the father of someone they killed was going to leave them be….seriously? She brought that fate upon herself and I think that’s what makes her the stupidest.
Biggest fool in Skyrim: everyone who isn’t Belethor and the Dragonborn.
While Rolf IS stupid (mostly about harassing someone who could probably get him unemployed and homeless), racism in Skyrim is must lower and tamer than in any previous TES game.
Say that to Empire-lovers, those guys would not pass any option to tarnish any faction wanting independence, even if said option is ultra-nit-picked or even fabricated.
Khajiit are banned from urban areas, and Argonians are banned from entering Windhelm proper. Morrowind had slavery, so it was definitely worse. Racism in Cyrrodill was present, but it was generally depicted as undesirable and not necessarily mainstream. There was the religious lady who made the city guides, and I think one of the Countesses was a psychopath (If I'm remembering correctly).
Not in Oblivion it wasn't. Morrowind, however
Nords have every right to be racist, how long this discussion is gonna last? It's their land! Everyone else came here of their own free will, so they have to respect whatever nords are doing.
@@zehkiel8018 You should visit Bruma and talk to local guards. Their opinion on Nords being pitiful backward primitives isn't exactly respectful.
Delphine for asking (or telling, more like) me to kill paarthurnaax. I turn on the blades every. Single. Time.
There is a mod that allows you, the dragonborn and therefore leader of the blades, to put your foot down and tell her you will not kill paarthunax, and she drops the matter. Should have been in the base game.
Can’t stop binging your content bro, top notch thanks for keeping them coming 💯
The player character.
What would make you think that?
If you pick nord race well yeah probably, DNA dont lie.
@@shonenjump-lk3hl Oh, I dunno, free will?
@@xl54U1lx I never pick nord.
@@xl54U1lx Seething Imperial detected. Keep kissing piss elf boots, merchant.
The 4 bandits that just saw the Dragonborn fight off an army of dragons with only his voice and think its time to rob him.
The biggest idiot is the Dragonborn. He/she is asked by an immortal philosopher dragon why he/she should defeat Alduin, and the best argument he/she can come up with is "'cos I like this world". The Dragonborn has the once in a millennia power of a demigod, but instead of taking control, he/she plays second fiddle to all the other squabbling idiots of Skyrim and does their bidding.
Honorable mention: the naked bandit who tries to rob you after you destroy the entite hagraven group that imprisoned him.
I'd say the emperor for submitting to the thalmor in the first place. If it wasn't for him, his nation wouldn't be wasting countless lives on a civil war.
Riiight... instead of wasting EVERYONE's life by resisting, and getting most of cryodiil slaughtered. Politics are a bitch, and "resist to the last man" only sounds good in theory, not practice
@@DragonPaladin01he threw all of the other nations under the bus to save cyrodil. The thalmor were in just as bad a position and are hated even in their own country. (They massacred many of their own kind to set up their regime.)
You do realize that if he had not submitted the Empire would have been completely destroyed and there’d be even more massacres across Tamriel. Sometimes you must lay low in order to survive.
@@RedCommunistDragon No, only cyrodil would have been taken. The main thalmor army was already defeated.
Also what part of, let’s let our enemies have full control over our government to stir up strife snd weaken our infrastructure even further sounds like a good plan.
Were the germans defeated by people surrendering to them?
@@RedCommunistDragon But the forsworn live there too, they could've allied with the empire to fight the thalmor, just like the kahjit and argonians.
A fact to consider for Ulfirc is the dossier the Thalmor has on him. He was convinced under interrogation that information coerced from him led to the Empire losing the capital, only to be allowed to escape. While not working with the Thalmor directly, the Thalmor have been secretly supporting his rebellion as a proxy war to more easily subjugate the Empire by only doing enough for the civil war to become stagnant. Ulfric, for his part, blames himself for losing the imperial capital, and has convinced himself that he alone can set right the wrongs of the past by becoming High King on an independent Skyrim. Does this make him even more idiotic? It certainly doesn’t help make Ulfric look better.
So he is idiotic and delusional.
Who cares skyrim belongs to the Nords. Good luck to the aldmeri dominion taking skyrim with a dragon born hanging around. It'll be Talos 2.0
@@rh3309 In my mind, Skyrim pretty much sets up the Dragonborn eventually becoming Emperor. One story of Talo's origin has Tiber Septim as a general under King Cuhlecain, only to succeed to the throne after King Cuhlecain's death. While it's not exactly the same, there seems to be parallels if the Dragonborn supports the Stormcloaks.
@@rh3309 How long is the Dragonborn going to hang around though? In most playthroughs, he is Man. And those only live up to about 100 years.
Even if he survives for that long, he is going to eventually die of old age. He might have the soul of Dragon, but his body will fail unless other magic is involved.
@@frantisekvrana3902 We take the fight to them then
If one should not attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence, Skyrim has little room for malice.
Nah the college of winterhold shop guy selling you your elder scroll back
11:22 You mean the White-Brown Concordant, BECAUSE I WIPED MY ASS WITH IT.
Congrats, you've handed the entire continent to the Thalmor.
To be fair savos couldnt just tell ancano to fuck off...poeple were law bound to put up with the thalmors crap weather they like it or not.
Disagree 100% about Balgruff, he doesn't have the money to strengthen
epair Whiterun's defenses. He knew that WR would be ground 0 in the Skyrim civil war and tried to ready WR for it by delaying it. He knew Ulfric was likely to attack WR first which is why he allowed Talos worship in WR to keep the people's loyalty. He knew the Empire wouldn't attack WR first because Tullius had limited resources and didn't require supply over land because he controlled the large port of Solitude. Balgruff isn't timid, he's shrewd.
Absolutely. Not to mention that he didn't station troops in Riverwood specifically so he could keep his neutrality. His hold is caught between a rock and a hard place and he's desperately trying to find a balance where they don't get crushed.
In my book, stupid means unintelligent, dimwitted, slow, etc. A person can do stupid things without being stupid. As much as I'd like to recognize Delphine as the stupidest person in the entire world, she doesn't strike me as particularly stupid. She's managed to survive all those years, and that takes some skill and intelligence. It's all the other traits she possesses that really makes me hate her. Characters who put their trust in the Daedra are definetly not the smartest people, but they are most often blinded by the Daedra, and are simply used as pawns by beings much more surerior than themselves. There are, however, one character in Skyrim, whom I consider to be a bit dumber than the average. Jarl Leila! She is easily manipulated by everyone around her, and let's Maven and the Thieves Guild do whatever they want.
Laila is both stupid, incompetent and corrupt.
I can’t decide if Delphine is the biggest idiot for wanting to murder one of the few beings who can genuinely help prevent the LITERAL END OF THE WORLD, or Esbern for following her lead.
I’ve been convinced to join the imperials every time now
Almost like the other option is basically siding with the Thalmor. They'll rest up and sweep the divided nations of Tamriel.
I didn't even think about the Thalmor benefitting from the conflict. I always sided with the Imperials because:
1. Stormcloaks are just as racist as the Thalmor.
2. Ulfric gives me cult leader vibes.
3. Empire surrendered in hopes of ending the bloodshed, not because they like the Thalmor. The Stormcloaks then start causing more bloodshed and are focusing their attacks on the Empire, not the Thalmor.
Over all, I agree with top pick. Ulfric is a self-serving moron.
You just elevated my weekend!
Honestly, the fact that there are people who think Ulfric is a Thalmor supporter and his rebellion aims to weaken the empire is proof enough that his plan is stupid.
Gotta love that nearly everyone on this list is a Leader of some of the most poweful/influential groups in all of Skyrim.
Delphine gotta be.
ikr
I disagree with Balgruf
Sebi isn't in any danger, Maven just put him in timeout using the prison system. If she felt like it, he'd have gotten a medal and parade by order of the Jarl for murdering the guy.
I’ve seen nazeem inside dragons reach, he’s walked up there many times but he’s never really stayed there for long periods of time
Any bandit looking at me in my full Dragon
plate armor and saying some sh*t like "you picked a bad time to get lost, friend" yeah okay buddy
Any companion
Hey buddy, you know how I just gave you a legendary daedric greatsword, damage 230, with a fire damage enchant on it? Yes? Well why the heck are you using a hunting bow, damage 3?
@@charimonfanboy solution: give them a legendary stalhrim bow with frost and chaos damage enchants
Hey Dude im curious you see if u kill the Ebony warrior before going to sovengard can you meet him there ?
Bump
No, because he's a redguard
@@defensivejackass4690General Tullius is an Imperial and if you sided with the Stormcloaks you can find him in Sovengarde before doing main quest stuff
@@lugismansion2400You don't. Tullius isn't in Sovngarde, Rikke is.
@@remiss6355 huh, I’ve might have remembered it wrong then
The courier is on my list as number 1 numpty.. interrupts the one person who can take out dragons and let's him die over 100 gold 😅
In my opinion, it's Astrid. If everything goes the way she expected it to, she still ends up getting incinerated as a consequence for going against the wishes of Sithis and the Night Mother. If it doesn't, she dooms the Dark Brotherhood anyway due to the protagonist killing her when she expected them to kill a hostage instead, and then the protagonist proceeding to notify the legion who then send them to burn the Dark Brotherhood Stronghold to the ground complete with the entry password. All just because of a hunch that the person who thought they were doing a good deed by setting some orphans free from the tyranny of the wicked old lady running their orphanage is somehow a kindred spirit to people who are bloodthirsty assassins for a living.
No matter what, she ends up dying because of her own stupidity and hubris and always at the bare minimum puts her entire faction in extreme danger if not outright getting it obliterated completely. The best you can do is delay the inevitable and pick up the pieces in the aftermath, there's no saving her from herself and the Brotherhood will suffer for her mistakes one way or another.
The player for following the story😂
Love your Skyrim content, keep it up (also your occasional digs at Starfield made me laugh)
Farengar who knows I’m a dragonslaying master of the thu’um but sends a few bandits after me for stealing a soul gem, having given them a note with his name on it.
The 3-girl gang: Myself (Female; Hali), Lydia, Serana. I married Camilla...Sven and the freak are still saying the other thinks they can still get her...do they not realise that she is already married (to me). I threw their letters in the fire, and never delivered them.
down with Ulfric the killer of kings
on the day of your death we will drink and we'll sing
I definitely would put Skyrim Guards on my list.
Guard: (gets shot in the head) what was that, probably just the wind
@@MalachiBlue-yl7wt That can happen with bandits as well.
This video hit the sweet spot between interesting and entertaining
Ah, old Nezeem, I soltrapped him and hid the soulgem in Dragonreach, so he can be there for an eternity. Sibbi Black-Briar I soultrapped and placed his soulgem beside Grelod The Kinds and Ancanos soulgems in the Soul Cairn. Savos is not only a incompetent idiot, he also got several of his friends killed in Labyrinthian.
Brunwulf Free-Winter is a bit dim, actually
Nah, just power hungry. But he managed to fool a lot of people with his randomly generated bandit hunt quest that Ulfric’s steward can give out as well.
@@firenze6478 Yep, he just want the throne, that's why he tries to provoke hostilities agains Ulfric and kisses Empires behinds. And even when you give him the throne via Empires bloody invasion, all those things he criticesed Ulfric for (including Argonian separation) stay exactly the same. "Oh, but I can't change it right now, it needs time, now they have to be separated for their own safety!" Oh sure, no, I'm not buying that crap, you bloody hypocrite!
Btw, is Brunwulf Free-Winter essential character? I'm starting to hate him so much that some "accident" might happen...
@@mausolus8466 he reminds me of these political activists bullying demographics they hate by claiming they are fighting for minority’s rights.
“Ur not gonna kill me” 🏃♂️💨
“Halt. Archers”🗣️
I put mirraks soul in a soul gem and threw it in the outhouse toilet on my house.
Meanwhile the constant enemy spawns near my lakeview manor😤
I really don't get the 'Ulfric is a Thalmor agent' argument. Like... So is Tullius? The empire has essentially been puppeted by the Thalmor. Ulfric is advantagous for the Thalmor as long as the war rages on. If he wins, they lose all their assets in Skyrim and have another country that's openly hostile to the dominion. It's not hard to see that the empire is dying, it lost Black Marsh (which it never really controlled), Hammerfell, Morrowind, the entire Aldmerri dominion and half Skyrim. Oh and a huge region between Skyrim and High Rock (the reach). The empire is already dying. If however, it were to be attacked again I am fairly certain that Skyrim wouldn't hesitate for a second to join. Same for Hammerfell. Don't forget, this is the elder scrolls, mutual racism for elves is a very valid reason for coöperation. Both outcomes of the war are good, the most important thing is that the war ends.
It’s more so a situation of “ulfric died? That’s a shame” vs “General tullius died? Best case scenario for a failed plan” and weakened
=/= dead, the empire is still in a situation to make a come back
@@Firefly11O3 true, but Skyrim if Skyrim falls, it's definitive, they'll lose a clear way to High Rock, so even a small rebellion there could make them lose their last province. If this were to happen, I do believe that coöperation would be the only real way to save Cyrodill, and the idea of something like a council of rulers from Skyrim, Morrowind, Hammerfell, High Rock, Cyrodill and possible even Black Marsh, just seems pretty cool.
To my understanding, the reasoning behind that theory boil down to these four points:
1. Thalmor dossier.
2. Ulfric was captured and tortured by Thalmor during the Great War, after which he was set free and labeled as an "asset".
3.Thalmor began their crackdown on Skyrim's Talos worship directly because of Ulfric's explicit demands of free worship during the Markarth incident.
4. Ulfric will never mount an attack on the Thalmor Embassy.
For the record I don't think he's a spy for the Thalmor. I just think he's a bitter and stupid rable-rouser.
@@JJusmi I much prefer the way simpler explanation. War in Skyrim means a weakened empire, a weakened empire is good for the Dominion. I prefer the Stormcloaks not entirely because I believe they're the best of Skyrim but a multitude of reasons.
- The imperial armor has a better gold to weight ratio
- Stormcloak armor looks better for the small scale battles imo
- Ulfric might work in the Thalmor interest but so does Tullius
- The underdog rebellion feeling is just cool and taking cities feels cool.
- I like Talos
- I'm not thàt against removing Balgruuf
- They don't try to behead me
- It's implied that they don't torture folks
- I don't like how so many people diminisch the stormcloaks to just racists
- the racism makes a surprising lot of sense
For the racism part, I want to explain myself. The Stormcloaks provinces are all next to Morrowind. They are experiencing actual migration. The Reach and Eastmarsh have the most nonhumans by far. The red mountain is something they actively experienced. Argonians not being allowed in Windhelm is true, but 100% of the Argonians who live in the cities are from Stormcloak territory and in Riften they're treated pretty aight (same for the Dunmer). As for the Dunmer. They're descriminated against in Windhelm, yes 100%, but have you played Morrowind? Goddamn the Dunmer are *ssholes (+ they're Demon worshippers). Everyone hates the Altmer. Bosmer are cannibals. Kajijt are hated even by the imperials. Reachmen are well... insane. And the empire isn't the best either. (Redguards Argonians and Orcs are cool though)
@@Killerwale-hk4wy "You realize this is exactly what they wanted." -General Tullius, final words
The Dragonborn if I’m playing.
You... when you give up th e jagged crown, join the rebellion, walk into a castle of vampires, try to marry one, and fight the dragon that saved your dumb ass life
When a mod is created to resolve how dumb of a situation the player is presented with because of a single character, that character will always be biggest idiot. Without question, Delphine.
Delphine.
Ain't no way you're slandering my boy Ballin Balgruuf like that 😡. 1. He states his side in the war. "I stand with Whiterun" Fact. 2. Everyone knows if you don't have the grind set to repair your own home after a civil war invasion, you deserve to be homeless. Fact. So, do not put balgruuf's name in your mouth that way again or talos help me I'll have Lydia stand in every door way and be SO rude when you try to run past for 100 years😡
Ulfric, He had his hands tied in front of him. He could have easily removed his gag and shouted anyone apart. Unless it was all a lie???
The biggest idiot is the Dragonborn for putting up with people's busy work for little to no reward.
Maven Black-Briar is stupid.
Sibbi is in prison and Hemming is a baby. When Maven dies her business is ruined. If she was smart she'd delegate some responsibility to them. She's doomed.
The thieves guild are more stupid as they have firmly shackled their lips to her rear. I bet if she gave the guild an order which contradicted what you, as the guild master, clearly opposed or contradicted they would probably side with her.
@@poilboiler Maven is funding the guild and is the reason the Riften Guard hasn't stormed the Ratway. Once Maven goes, they'll need to abandon Riften before the guards come through their tunnels.
Sibbi is hardly in prison for life, and she pretty much says she's keeping him there to teach him a lesson. Also Ingun seems competent.
@@vanyadolly Fun fact, after you do the quest to find or "find" the girl he is pissed at he stops being essential and you can snipe him through the bars. Even if you get caught and arrested Maven doesn't mind.
@vanyadolly Ingun is perfectly capable, to the point where I get a little disappointed that she's not a marriage option. She has no interest in Maven's business or her family. If anything, she seems desperate to leave Riften, I don't blame her. But once Sibbi is out of prison, Maven won't want anything to do with him. Mjoll even says that Sibbi is the worst of the lot. Painting the Black-Briars, the wrong shade so publicly will do that. Something Maven wouldn't stand for. I'd honestly argue that Ingun is smarter than Maven but points her intelligence in a different direction. I hope Ingun leaves. She's clearly fed up with the rest of her family.
How is Nazzam an idiot? He is not involved no major storylines, factions or war efforts.
Because he's a supercilious gitface.
He can clearly see how you DO get to the cloud district quite often.
@@poilboiler While, I realize he keeps repeating the same dialogue. He’s only a nuisance to me.
@@Digidragon55 Same. Although he is a good mark for pickpocketing.
He does not even know some dude is onto his wife.
Delphine trying to command thr Dragonborn who she's apparently sworn to serve to kill a Dragon who proved to be not only one of our biggest allies in the fight against Alduin, but also helping teach humanity the ways of the voice
It's us. We are the idiot.
People who pull the "Ulfric is a thalmor puppet" card really didn't go further into his past, cause and motivations
He's a Thalmor indirect puppet. All the fiasco he brought to Skyrim with Stormcloaks helps weakening Skyrim from inside without Thalmor having to lift finger.
Sure Thalmor doesn't want Stormcloak wins, but they don't want Imperials beat Stormcloaks either, because they want the civil war not ending as long as it gets and keep bleeding the realm. Whiever wins doesn't matter much.
Ulfric already done ireversible damage of dividing Skyrim by killing Torrygg and instigating the rebellion that the victor of the civil bickering won't matter. I'm siding with Imperials coz the dumbass gotta get handed justice and I don't like Balgruuf replaced by that old busybody Grey-Mane, I'm siding with Stormcloak when I'm either anti-authority punk, a butthurt nationalist Nord or a Thalmor agent elf sabotaging Skyrim via letting Stormcloaks crippling what's left of the realm.