Unironically, Tyrion turned out far better than Cersei or Jaime did. Still needs 12 years of therapy at least, but that’s better than those two. Jaime can be saved, but Cersei at this point in the books cannot.
@@SonnyFRST maybe, but can you say that you that 100% of player figured it out? No, cause not all people can see things simulary, so even if to most people thing something obvious, to those others it isn,t
@@Flabbergastedsnakei like this comment and their is good evidence that fellow dedric princes don’t like them as the the quest for the mace of molac bal has a boethea disgrace molac bal
Severio Pelagia is also someone to kill after giving him food from his farm since he dies in the Whiterun Civil War quest no matter which side you side with.
That's cool. I'm sick and tired of him always showing up when I fast travel to Whiterun. "Cold can't be too good for my crops. Never is." Dude, shut up. I don't care.
@@phunghieu2007 I know it because Gallows Hall is a great source of charged grand soul gems for early game. Don't know exactly how common this knowledge is, but I've seen it mentioned in r/skyrim comments several times.
Here’s another exploit you can use that is more efficient then using necromantic spell: use the ritual stone. People who are raised by the stone power are not reduced to dust after death, so you can raise them as many time as you need to charge up the blade.
I used to take out Cosnach, the Housecarls, Uthgerd the Unbroken, and a few others that I forgot. I typically just toss that weapon in a chest because I never feel like using it. Lol.
Fun fact: Ebony Blade is your PRIMARY damage means when doing the Deadric Artifact run, only challenged by Molag's Soul Mace and Dagon's Dagger when doing something akin to a stealth kill on tougher opponents Black Reach's Dwemer Centurions! The life Drain Dai-Katana is mostly for long, drawn out battles like on dragons or high end falmer bosses, but the two-handed skill scale incredibly well due to being obtained early and having enchantments stack its power attacks.
There's a little bit of an exploit that you can use without feeling too bad I think. During the Lights Out quest, Deeja sees you as a "friend," Even though she will still be hostile upon your encounter. Kill her with the blade, then cast Dead Thrall on her, kill her then cast the spell again, rinse and repeat until the sword is fully upgraded. The only thing is you have to be able to cast Master level conjuration spells, because it does have to be the Dead Thrall that you cast specifically (although, the the ability from the ritual stone might also work, I'm not quite sure though). As far as I know, other raise dead spells won't create a permanent corpse for you to use again, and she'll turn to dust after the first time you kill her.
The Ritual Stone does work. If you want to not have to wait 24 hours, you can always have the Ritual Stone saved on your Aetherial Crown, so you just have to remove it and put it back on.
bro i literally made a new character just last night for a Ebony Blade build, so this came at the PERFECT time haha. thank you Master Neloth for making this!
If you decide to kill Silus, do it only after youve saved him from the daedra that spawn and completed the quest. After that, i forgot how long a time they take to respawn, but the daedra will respawn each time you visit the statue and you can farm daedra hearts for gear or gold. 2 farmabke hearts i think.
I wouldn’t kill Hroggar but instead use a calming spell, after you finish this quest he will express his gratitude and live in a tragic yet peaceful life.
There's also another way to power up the bony blade in a goodway but. It's a bit tedious but worth it if you can pull it off. First thing you need to do is find a powerful necromancy spell preferably that one standing stone near valtheim towers. Second head to solitude and do the lighthouse quest once done head to where ship crashed and talk to the argonian who will betray you put her down with the ebony blade, then resurrect her and put her down again. Repeat this until the blade is fully powered up no need to sacrifice the people that you like.
Unpopular opinion: I always help Sinding kill all the Hunters, finish all the dialogue in the cave, and then kill Sinding. You get the Ring of Hircine and the armor set. It's definitely legitimate and not a glitch in the game shhhhh
8:59 There needs to be a mod to free Ogmund when Stormcloaks occupied Markarth. Even not as a Stormcloak we can arrange it temporarily by giving Ulfric Markarth during the Greybeard meeting
Let’s be real, splitting her main worshipper base into two that absolutely hate each other and murder each other at any occasion is a total Mephala move to make
I always thought that the Ebony Blade should have gotten additional effects when reaching the thresholds. Increased Health Drain alone is kind of underwhelming.
You should do a video on who to induct into the Blades! You want to induct someone who is worthy but you also don't want to remove someone valuable from their life. Erik the Slayer is a good example of a good choice but what about the other two?
Karthwasten… Help clear the silver bloods, do the orc sword and Debella quests… Then pull the ebony backscratcher and clear house… Then at the greybeard peace summit you can have Ulfric pay for the ‘massacre’ and be cleared
If you kill Hroggar to reunite him with his wife and daughter, you MUST do it as an assassination. If he goes down fighting, he will enter Sovngarde. His wife and daughter are not in Sovngarde. They did not die in a fight.
I love the idea that you're a daedric follower, killing in her name but you feel morally torn so you go out of your way to befriend and betray other daedric followers
It's a shame they didn't make an actual return in Skyrim. We only have the Blade's ones and the ebony blade. Bethesda really doesn't understand just how many otakus play games.
I find it ironic that an ancient telvanni wizard is criticizing a nord for slave labor considering your peoples gruesome treatment of beastfolk back in the third era. Turn your gaze to your own land ooh.. too soon? Jealousy is all i hear.
If you kill sinding i recomend first teaming up with him to get ring of hircine and then killing him and takes his pelt and then you get both of the artifacts
I always use dead thrall to upgrade the sword. In a mining town near Markarth there are 2 men that complain how their mine was overrun by forsworn, if you clear out the forsworn they will become your friends (and be eligible for sacrifice). But the thing is the forsworn eventually respawn in their mine ,usually with them in it, ending them instantly. After that happens you just use dead thrall on one of them, use the blade, and repeat until fully charged. For anyone who doesn't know dead thrall is a master level conjuration spell, which means you need level 90 in conjuration and to complete the quest "conjuration ritual spell"
I just cannot kill Ondolemar. His positive-reputation-male-Altmer lines aren't exactly a dime a dozen in Skyrim. There's only one other guy who has them, and I'm not much one for wandering to the Winterhold Inn when I have the Arch Mages quarters at my disposal. Everyone else who shares Ondolemar's voice is hostile. Please, I need him to tell me there's nothing as fine as my company.
@@krystianszewczyk1522There's a great mod for that, Destroying the Thieves guild. Best part is that it's not just wiping them out, you can team up with the jarl, Mjoll and other good citizens to take out Maven black briar's criminal empire in a series of quests.
2:13 Last time I checked, using necromancy to resurrect them, when you kill them the second time, their bodies will just turn to ash and you can't resurrect them again. However, if you get the blessing of the Ritual Stone and use that, that does work, as their bodies won't turn to ashes afterwards.
I love the idea of a daygrit lord making a blade for betrayl and tasking the owner to empower it by killing your friends only for somone to grab it then make friends with awful people in skyrim then killing them making the world better i just imagine the lord that made the sword going dude what the fuck you were supposed to be evil
If you sell crops to farmers they will have a positive disposition of you. Go to the Salvious farm (I think that’s the name) outside of markarth near stables. You can use the ritual stone to revive and get an easy 4 kills out of the 10. Uthgerd, marcurio and the dude in the silver blood inn can provide the rest of the kills. (Provided you use the stone)
I'm surprised Nazeem isn't on this list (I know he isn't really going to improve the ebony blade, he is just a condescending to the dragon born, plus It's fun to kill him lol)
You can do it with Narfi from Ivarstead after you accomplished his quest (pretty easy to do). Once you killed him, use Dead Thrall (or Staff of Worms if you don't want to xp your conjuration) to resurect him, and kill him again until the blade is fully stacked.
For anyone that doesn’t know, there’s a way to get the 10 kills for the Ebony Blade with just one person. Step 1, get conjuration maxed out to level 100 Step 2, complete the master conjuration ritual spell quest at the college of Winterhold. Step 3, buy the master spells you just unlocked from the quest. The one you need is called Dead Thrall. Step 4,hire any mercenary at any tavern. Step 5, kill them with Ebony Blade and resurrect them with the Dead Thrall spell. Repeat this process until you hear the dialogue from the Whispering Lady telling you that the sword has been restored, which is 10 kills. Step 6 (optional) but recommended, Combine this task with Boethia’s Calling Quest to get them both done at along side each other. Important note, you won’t be able to resurrect the person you’re trying to kill repeatedly for the ebony blade UNTIL you complete the Boethia quest. This is because Boethia talks to you through the person you’re sacrificing for her quest. Once her quest is completed, you will now be able to resurrect them with the dead thrall spell. It’s worth it tho because you get some badass armor for your efforts. I always recommend checking the wiki for whoever you’re considering for these quests to make sure they don’t have any quests of their own or apart of. That way you can complete whatever quests they have or are apart of, before un-aliving them… repeatedly lol 😅
You can also join the rieklings at the mead hall quest and then massacre some of those little blue creatures. They'll fill the blade and you won't lose any NPC's Might take a while to finish the quest but, once finished, it'll be pretty easy to get the blade maxxed
Didn’t see it in the comments but there is a way to get the Saviors Hide and the ring of Hircine. Complete the quest siding with Sinding. Once he gives you the armour , betray him (with the ebony blade ofc) leave and talk to the aspect of Hircine to collect the ring
you can use the necromancy stone to resurect a dead follower every 24 hours. their body wont disintegrate and killing them again counts as progress. so you only have to kill one
I always thought Hert and Hern were siblings. I only recently found out that their relationship may have been intended to be unknown, as cut guard dialogue has them asking about it.
Use the dead thrall spell and resurrect the follower you kill at boethias shrine. Then kill them again with the ebony blade. You can keep resurrecting them till it's Mac level.
Haven't finished the intro of the video but I'll say I got the blade before I did the quests for the cannibal ring and so I upgraded the blade with the lives of the cannibals once I had become the champion of the prince and won their trust
Just gonna put this out there, dead thrall allows you to do this to anyone you like for as many times (but I could be wrong it’s been a while since I played)
I love that whenever you say the title of the video you don’t day “in Skyrim” at the end. Now everyone at work probably thinks I’m planning a murder spree 😂
I adopted Sissel this time around along with Lucia.... I just wish it was more simulation like where I could bring Sissel for tutoring sessions in magic, or idk, teach the kid myself. And also teach them hunting and all that that. That would be great. Make actual trips andake a parental relationship and family bond vs what it is now.
With the master Raise Thrall spell you can just give coin a few times to a single beggar and keep killing and bringing them back repatededly to max out the blade.
Surprised that with Aela the huntress wasn't even an honorable mention, she becomes unessential after becoming harbinger and is the only companion you can't cure of lycanthropy. her animalistic bloodlust and loyalty to Hircine make her potentially even more dangerous than Sinding, especially considering her high social standing. The Mercy of Stendarr does not extend to Daedra worshippers.
There is that beggar in Ivarstead that you're going to eliminate anyway in Dark Brotherhood sidequests. Just find his sister's locket and he's good to go. Just use the Ritual Stone ability.
I mean Sissel's magic learning can be remedied easy enough. Adopt her, and marry a mage, or I suppose if you yourself are a Magic User you could theoretically be teaching her.
Ralis from Kolbjorn Barrow. For one, you let him think he got away with mindless murder. Second, he thinks you're his friend. Third, sacrifice him with the Ebony Blade at the shrine of Boethia.
Ritual stone and Lydia at Boethia's shrine. Then Fus-ro-dah her in a northwestern direction towards Azurah's statue. I only do that in a casual run... the exploit, I mean.
The Thalmor believe that the creation of Mundus was the worst mistake in history. The Daedra also hate Mundus. So naturally, slaying Thalmor with a Daedrinc prince's blade would be quite poetic. Sending their souls to the Soul Cairn, which is in Oblivion, rather than letting them ascend to Aetherius, is also hilarious.
pro tip, help Sindig against the hunters and get the uncursed ring, then go back and slaughter him with the Blade for the Savior's Hide. Win/win, your Ebony Blade got a bit stronger and you scammed another Daedric Prince out of 2 artifacts. It doesn't get more decietful than that.
Idk about Ondolemar, he does actually treat the Dragonborn with respect for performing the task, which is quite frankly leaps and bounds for a Thalmor. You can also complete Boethiah’s sacrifice with the priestess of Azura and so pretty much cause a minor Dunmer pantheonic civil war. Also I’m pretty sure killing Nilsine causes her parents to end their lives so maybe there’s such thing as too much death lol
I think this video is a really fun idea, so I'd like to rank each of your choices in my personal ethics tier list. Subject to personal disagreement*** Hert: S tier A literal serial killer who dies from a quest anyway. Only downside is you wont get the flavor text. Sinding: D tier Not bad from a gameplay standpoint, but from morallity? Not sure. Sinding never chose to become a werewolf, and if you become a werewolf or a vampire or whatever, I basically see it like you can either choose to try to find a way to manage your condition like serana or not even try. Sinding seems to genuinely feel bad for his actions and we also know that the ring has the properties of randomly transforming you until the quest is completed. Silus: F tier morality, S tier gameplay benifits Yeah not really moral but hey you could get a cool dagger. WHSHHH SWIISHH thats the sound of me swinging and stabbing stuff. Lemkil: D tier He may be a bad person but he never did anything worthy of the death penalty and is likely just a really sad person. Not excusing him, but if he dies the kids will likely grow up on the streets or in the orphanage like so many of the homeless children that get eaten up by skyrim. Thonar Silver Blood: C tier Killing him seems good on the surface until you realize that because he basically owns the town, a political assassination would probably lead to lawlessness and rioting. Or maybe everyone would do wonderfly. I have the silver bloods too, but they are also the entire economy of the town. So while it gets a C tier, there are enough unknowns it can get no higher. Ondolemar: B Tier This one would get S tier for me, for being a member of a secret police force that imprisons people for their religion, however as is mentioned in the video the cost of befriending him defeats the justification. Melka: A tier While I see pretty good justifications here, there is ultimately a bad feeling about killing a monster that had the decency to not attack. The fact that every other hag raven just starts attacking me makes me instantly like her more. Almost makes me forgive her for eating people. Almost. Hroggar: F tier The video doesnt seem that confident in this one. I think breaking the spell is the way to go especially since that is an option. Markarth Cannibals: S tier Yeah these guys are just awful. All of them are pure evil. Jaree-Ra and Deeja: S tier this one is almost cheating because you can get a free kill for defending yourself. Dark brotherhood contracts: most are F tier hern is S Yeah, its good for gameplay reasons, but going off of pure morality, the dark brotherhood is the baddies. The windhelm one with the shatter shields is a crushingly sad tale. Probably the most immoral killing on this list. The dark brotherhood members: S tier The dark brotherhood is the baddies. Plus all you have to do is kill grelod the kind to join, which only make orphans able to be adopted and helps the world. Oh and those people who are tied up but just kill the kajiit only who claims to have many enemies. Then you can easily get 5 without effort. Not sure if you need to do more missions for it to count with the blade. Boethea's sacrifice: ? tier Kind of irrellivant to this comment because Im just talking about the ethics and it could be anybody
Neloth calling Ondolemar an arrogant bastard is hilariously ironic. Neloth is just another high and mighty elf that needs a good chop from Wuuthrad after the dragon born is done using him. Tragic that he’s essential but luckily mods can fix that problem.
I agree with most of these choices, the only one I'd swap out is Hroggar. Maybe if there was an alternative quest path where you couldn't kill Alva for whatever reason so had to mercy kill Hroggar and it would still power the blade I could accept that, but after going through all that then stopping his chances of moving on is just too cruel for me. For purley personal reasons I would probably kill Marcurio instead. The fact that you can marry him immediately after paying him 500 gold always rubbed me the wrong way. I get it's just a technical oversight on the developer's part and I'm sure other followers do it too but he was the first character I found out you can do this to so that's always stuck to him for me. It comes across like his loyalty can easily be bought to the point where he'll spend the rest of his life in holy matrimony with the Dragonborn just because they paid him 500 gold? What if someone comes along and pays 1000 gold? Is he gonna dip and potentially abandon his family cause the price was better? That ain't it chief, on the blade you go
Another good one is Torbjorn Shatter-Shield but this one is also a bit.....morally questionable. Just, hear me out. The Shatter-Shield Clan is grieving when you first arrive to Windhelm, especially the mother Tova, because they lost their daughter to the serial killer that's roaming around. If you talk to Torbjorn he'll give you quest to get an amulet of Arkay as a present for his grieving wife. If you do that, you have officially befriended him. Now to the questionable part. As already mentioned in the video, you get an optional quest in the dark brotherhood questline to kill Nilsine, the second daughter of the Shatter-Shield Clan. If you do that the mother won't be able to endure the loss of another child and ends up taking her life so she'll be reunited with her daughters. This leads to Torbjorn being the only one left in the Shatter-Shield Clan, having now lost his wife and 2 daughters, and he ends up becoming depressed and an alcoholic because of it. So now you could technically kill him with the Ebony Blade, put him out of his misery and reunite him with his family in Sovngarde. Win win?
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Lemkil legitimately looked at Tywin's treatment of Tyrion and thought, "Hey, my wife died in childbirth too!"
At least Tyrion was a disfigured dwarf, Lemkil just has two normal kids.
@@mcbeaty3971One of which has some form of Sight. Sissel has dreams of Paarthurnax and the Gray Beards.
Unironically, Tyrion turned out far better than Cersei or Jaime did. Still needs 12 years of therapy at least, but that’s better than those two. Jaime can be saved, but Cersei at this point in the books cannot.
@@Boarbatricein the show that is. Tyrion in the books has some major issues.
@@GrandTemplarVigilantyeah he wants to rape his sister and kill his dwarf friend. Bad Tyrion.
This Ondolemar slander will not stand, hes the only Thalmor in the game to respect the Dragonborn and can be used as a distraction at the Embassy
But after that.....
Polished shite is still shite
Respect? He doesn't even know your character is a dragonborn. He's still Thalmor scum.
hmm most playthroughs he’s just the name that pops up on my kill feed once I progress past a certain point in the main quest lol
Too many thalmor symathizers in the comments. Talos smite you all!
Given how he acts after Alva and her master are dead, Hroggar was a guy caught up in a bad situation, he doesn't deserve death...
it's a mercy
He doesn,t but you could have not known it till end
@@Lazymindflayerwithcofffee You could, actually. Plenty of ways the player can figure out he was enthralled before having to comfront him.
@@SonnyFRST maybe, but can you say that you that 100% of player figured it out? No, cause not all people can see things simulary, so even if to most people thing something obvious, to those others it isn,t
@@Lazymindflayerwithcofffee Hence why they left multiple ways to figure it out.
Neloth with the ebony blade is a fuckin terrifying concept, why don't we just give it to sheogorath
Because I don’t think a Dedric prince would give more power to another Dedric prince
@@Flabbergastedsnakei like this comment and their is good evidence that fellow dedric princes don’t like them as the the quest for the mace of molac bal has a boethea disgrace molac bal
@@Flabbergastedsnake he wouldn't want it for power he'd use it to fuck with people
@@Flabbergastedsnake especially sheogorath since mephala was involved with the cursing of jyggalag just as every other dadric prince is
@@ritorules1442 tf is jyggalag?
Severio Pelagia is also someone to kill after giving him food from his farm since he dies in the Whiterun Civil War quest no matter which side you side with.
Aw man I didn't know that. I like him he gave me an iron war axe.
That's cool. I'm sick and tired of him always showing up when I fast travel to Whiterun.
"Cold can't be too good for my crops. Never is."
Dude, shut up. I don't care.
@@DeadwaveCarrier-oc1woyou gotta learn to like it :/ thats not nice
@@DeadwaveCarrier-oc1wo there's a nip in the air. Cold won't be good for my crops. Never is.
@@DeadwaveCarrier-oc1woThere's a nip in the air. Cold won't be good for my crops. Never is.
Jaree-ra use the ritual stone to revive him wait 24 hours rinse and repeat
WHY DIDN'T I READ THIS SOONER
Damn. Gotta try that.
Or use Staff of Worms. Same deal, but no need to wait 24H.
@@lerarosalene do people know that exists? I only know it for my triple necromage run
@@phunghieu2007 I know it because Gallows Hall is a great source of charged grand soul gems for early game. Don't know exactly how common this knowledge is, but I've seen it mentioned in r/skyrim comments several times.
Here’s another exploit you can use that is more efficient then using necromantic spell: use the ritual stone. People who are raised by the stone power are not reduced to dust after death, so you can raise them as many time as you need to charge up the blade.
Thank you.
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwistritual stone plus random beggar is the best way to upgrade ebony blade
It doesn't work
@@العراقي-ب4ض1خ the beggar has to like you to have it work. Meaning you need to donate like 10 times.
I did not kill the beggar by killing one of the followers@draw2death421
I used to take out Cosnach, the Housecarls, Uthgerd the Unbroken, and a few others that I forgot. I typically just toss that weapon in a chest because I never feel like using it. Lol.
Me too. I like to pretend all the daedra are arguing and bickering with each other because they’re all in the downstairs safe.
I seem to recall using an exploit to kill Narfi over and over.. felt kinda bad about it
@@agzane268 Lol, you're evil. 😂
You make fresh and original TES content, which isn’t easy to do these days. It’s much appreciated
Fun fact: Ebony Blade is your PRIMARY damage means when doing the Deadric Artifact run, only challenged by Molag's Soul Mace and Dagon's Dagger when doing something akin to a stealth kill on tougher opponents Black Reach's Dwemer Centurions! The life Drain Dai-Katana is mostly for long, drawn out battles like on dragons or high end falmer bosses, but the two-handed skill scale incredibly well due to being obtained early and having enchantments stack its power attacks.
There's a little bit of an exploit that you can use without feeling too bad I think. During the Lights Out quest, Deeja sees you as a "friend," Even though she will still be hostile upon your encounter. Kill her with the blade, then cast Dead Thrall on her, kill her then cast the spell again, rinse and repeat until the sword is fully upgraded. The only thing is you have to be able to cast Master level conjuration spells, because it does have to be the Dead Thrall that you cast specifically (although, the the ability from the ritual stone might also work, I'm not quite sure though). As far as I know, other raise dead spells won't create a permanent corpse for you to use again, and she'll turn to dust after the first time you kill her.
The Ritual Stone does work. If you want to not have to wait 24 hours, you can always have the Ritual Stone saved on your Aetherial Crown, so you just have to remove it and put it back on.
This worked perfectly for me thank you for sharing this
bro i literally made a new character just last night for a Ebony Blade build, so this came at the PERFECT time haha. thank you Master Neloth for making this!
If you decide to kill Silus, do it only after youve saved him from the daedra that spawn and completed the quest. After that, i forgot how long a time they take to respawn, but the daedra will respawn each time you visit the statue and you can farm daedra hearts for gear or gold. 2 farmabke hearts i think.
2:25 Do you think it *ISN'T* hard!? Do you have any idea how *friendly* those little guys are? How *DARE* you look down upon our suffering!!!!
I wouldn’t kill Hroggar but instead use a calming spell, after you finish this quest he will express his gratitude and live in a tragic yet peaceful life.
There's also another way to power up the bony blade in a goodway but. It's a bit tedious but worth it if you can pull it off. First thing you need to do is find a powerful necromancy spell preferably that one standing stone near valtheim towers. Second head to solitude and do the lighthouse quest once done head to where ship crashed and talk to the argonian who will betray you put her down with the ebony blade, then resurrect her and put her down again. Repeat this until the blade is fully powered up no need to sacrifice the people that you like.
This video was supposed to come out Saturday but TH-cam sucks, oh well 🤷
Its fine
Prehaps its a blessing from the Divines!
But we are ever so grateful
I'm not killing Sinding. We're fellow werewolves.
So your a companion? FOR THE SNOW ELVES
And they were cave-mates...
Hahaha my coat
Unpopular opinion: I always help Sinding kill all the Hunters, finish all the dialogue in the cave, and then kill Sinding. You get the Ring of Hircine and the armor set. It's definitely legitimate and not a glitch in the game shhhhh
Tomorrow, next playthrough, I won't kill Sinding,....... I'll try not to ,
8:59 There needs to be a mod to free Ogmund when Stormcloaks occupied Markarth. Even not as a Stormcloak we can arrange it temporarily by giving Ulfric Markarth during the Greybeard meeting
These are some of my favorite Skyrim videos. I like seeing who people choose for their ten victims.
Big decisions shouldn't be rushed
19:05 interesting that murdering the dark brotherhood pleases mephala when it has been speculated that she is the night mother 😂
Let’s be real, splitting her main worshipper base into two that absolutely hate each other and murder each other at any occasion is a total Mephala move to make
the still images with your character, like 4:47 makes me laugh so hard
And then him in the background talking about something like child abuse
I always thought that the Ebony Blade should have gotten additional effects when reaching the thresholds. Increased Health Drain alone is kind of underwhelming.
Personally I think the enchantment is really good, especially since it has infinite charge, but the fact you can’t temper the blade kills it for me.
@@masterneloth With the unofficial patch you can temper it
You should do a video on who to induct into the Blades! You want to induct someone who is worthy but you also don't want to remove someone valuable from their life. Erik the Slayer is a good example of a good choice but what about the other two?
The mage Illia from the tower near riften.
Like you said Erik the Slayer.
Literally any paid follower , all they do is sit .
But...that means you killed Party Snacks!
@@drewgoin8849There's a very popular mod that allows you to bypass that
i sided w/ sinding and know for a fact he does NOT keep his word. he is a rare encounter out in skyrim after you side w/ him in the quest.
Hrogar was enthralled. He was as much a victim as his family.
Wow, I didn’t think this guy had a TH-cam channel. I thought he was too busy yelling at his apprentices about tea 🗿
I’m flexible with my time 😎
@@masterneloth I can tell sir
Sinding is a legend. He managed to bypass the inmortality command on childs.
this is the funniest thing I've watched in a while, well done
Thanks for this video Master, I've always wanted a list like this instead of cheating myself with a glitch ❤
Karthwasten… Help clear the silver bloods, do the orc sword and Debella quests… Then pull the ebony backscratcher and clear house…
Then at the greybeard peace summit you can have Ulfric pay for the ‘massacre’ and be cleared
What's the Orc sword quest?
@ the heavy armor trainer orc wants you to give a sword to her daughter in karthwasten
I never heard of Lemkil, chances are I walked past him never thinking the man has a backstory.
Hroggar is innocent he’s being forced against his will pls don’t kill him
"Worse parent than a Sload" lmaooooo
That’s a third degree burn right there 😂
If you kill Hroggar to reunite him with his wife and daughter, you MUST do it as an assassination. If he goes down fighting, he will enter Sovngarde. His wife and daughter are not in Sovngarde. They did not die in a fight.
I love the idea that you're a daedric follower, killing in her name but you feel morally torn so you go out of your way to befriend and betray other daedric followers
So the first time I installed mods, I had a conflict where all the vampires had blackface. I found all of them so quick lol
The Ebony Blade is not Katana like, it is a Katana. They have always existed in Elder Scrolls.
It's a shame they didn't make an actual return in Skyrim. We only have the Blade's ones and the ebony blade.
Bethesda really doesn't understand just how many otakus play games.
its not its a different type of sword
I find it ironic that an ancient telvanni wizard is criticizing a nord for slave labor considering your peoples gruesome treatment of beastfolk back in the third era. Turn your gaze to your own land ooh.. too soon? Jealousy is all i hear.
If you kill sinding i recomend first teaming up with him to get ring of hircine and then killing him and takes his pelt and then you get both of the artifacts
I always use dead thrall to upgrade the sword. In a mining town near Markarth there are 2 men that complain how their mine was overrun by forsworn, if you clear out the forsworn they will become your friends (and be eligible for sacrifice). But the thing is the forsworn eventually respawn in their mine ,usually with them in it, ending them instantly. After that happens you just use dead thrall on one of them, use the blade, and repeat until fully charged.
For anyone who doesn't know dead thrall is a master level conjuration spell, which means you need level 90 in conjuration and to complete the quest "conjuration ritual spell"
I use Eola to sacrafice to Boethia. heheheh
I just cannot kill Ondolemar. His positive-reputation-male-Altmer lines aren't exactly a dime a dozen in Skyrim. There's only one other guy who has them, and I'm not much one for wandering to the Winterhold Inn when I have the Arch Mages quarters at my disposal. Everyone else who shares Ondolemar's voice is hostile. Please, I need him to tell me there's nothing as fine as my company.
The innocent old beggar from riften, then do it again with ritual stone until mephala feels satisfied. It's immoral but it just works
I usually use either Faendal or Sven, and utilize the Ritual Stone exploit
Worked for me, thank you. Didn't work out so well for Faendal
Tie The Aetherial Crown to The Ritual Stone and use Narfi after doing his little quest to find his sister.
I always take out the Brotherhood when doing good-ish characters
Shame that you can't do the same to thiefs guild
Absolutely. @@krystianszewczyk1522
@@krystianszewczyk1522There's a great mod for that, Destroying the Thieves guild.
Best part is that it's not just wiping them out, you can team up with the jarl, Mjoll and other good citizens to take out Maven black briar's criminal empire in a series of quests.
Oh I need to look that up
@@krystianszewczyk1522I could you getting them all arrested but killing the thieves guild is insane for a guild who doesn’t kill. DBhood deserves it
Tbh, I got the bard from riverwood with the resurrection stone and just killed him and revived him 9 times
"It's AlwAYs a GoOD dAY wHen MaSTer NeLOtH UploADs!!!"
Cry
2:13 Last time I checked, using necromancy to resurrect them, when you kill them the second time, their bodies will just turn to ash and you can't resurrect them again. However, if you get the blessing of the Ritual Stone and use that, that does work, as their bodies won't turn to ashes afterwards.
I love the idea of a daygrit lord making a blade for betrayl and tasking the owner to empower it by killing your friends only for somone to grab it then make friends with awful people in skyrim then killing them making the world better i just imagine the lord that made the sword going dude what the fuck you were supposed to be evil
In a way, betraying the prince with malicious compliance. It comes full circle
If you sell crops to farmers they will have a positive disposition of you. Go to the Salvious farm (I think that’s the name) outside of markarth near stables. You can use the ritual stone to revive and get an easy 4 kills out of the 10. Uthgerd, marcurio and the dude in the silver blood inn can provide the rest of the kills. (Provided you use the stone)
can you make who is to recruit for rebuilding The Blades quest?
That could make a good video someday ;)
Why would you ever do that?
That's a great idea! Id love to watch that!
I quite literally (no more than 3 minutes ago) just finished this power-up journey so I’m excited to see where I went wrong with who I killed lol
There's this dude in morthal i just kill him and revive with ritual stone till it's done
Faendal. Repeatedly with Dead Thrall. At the altar of Boethiah. Just as soon as I hit 50 archery. Two daedra, one elf.
I'm surprised Nazeem isn't on this list (I know he isn't really going to improve the ebony blade, he is just a condescending to the dragon born, plus It's fun to kill him lol)
Also, he can't be a friend to the dragon born
You can do it with Narfi from Ivarstead after you accomplished his quest (pretty easy to do). Once you killed him, use Dead Thrall (or Staff of Worms if you don't want to xp your conjuration) to resurect him, and kill him again until the blade is fully stacked.
For anyone that doesn’t know, there’s a way to get the 10 kills for the Ebony Blade with just one person.
Step 1, get conjuration maxed out to level 100
Step 2, complete the master conjuration ritual spell quest at the college of Winterhold.
Step 3, buy the master spells you just unlocked from the quest. The one you need is called Dead Thrall.
Step 4,hire any mercenary at any tavern.
Step 5, kill them with Ebony Blade and resurrect them with the Dead Thrall spell. Repeat this process until you hear the dialogue from the Whispering Lady telling you that the sword has been restored, which is 10 kills.
Step 6 (optional) but recommended,
Combine this task with Boethia’s Calling Quest to get them both done at along side each other. Important note, you won’t be able to resurrect the person you’re trying to kill repeatedly for the ebony blade UNTIL you complete the Boethia quest. This is because Boethia talks to you through the person you’re sacrificing for her quest. Once her quest is completed, you will now be able to resurrect them with the dead thrall spell. It’s worth it tho because you get some badass armor for your efforts.
I always recommend checking the wiki for whoever you’re considering for these quests to make sure they don’t have any quests of their own or apart of. That way you can complete whatever quests they have or are apart of, before un-aliving them… repeatedly lol 😅
You can also join the rieklings at the mead hall quest and then massacre some of those little blue creatures. They'll fill the blade and you won't lose any NPC's
Might take a while to finish the quest but, once finished, it'll be pretty easy to get the blade maxxed
Didn’t see it in the comments but there is a way to get the Saviors Hide and the ring of Hircine. Complete the quest siding with Sinding. Once he gives you the armour , betray him (with the ebony blade ofc) leave and talk to the aspect of Hircine to collect the ring
you can use the necromancy stone to resurect a dead follower every 24 hours. their body wont disintegrate and killing them again counts as progress. so you only have to kill one
I always thought Hert and Hern were siblings.
I only recently found out that their relationship may have been intended to be unknown, as cut guard dialogue has them asking about it.
lemkil always got the modded yeet into the air to only kick the bucket from ankle breakage
Do the most logical options for Boethiah’s Proving and explain how Erik the Slayer could be the canon choice.
Erik the Slayer is based off of a real life Bethesda fan named Erik West who died of cancer before Skyrim released
Use the dead thrall spell and resurrect the follower you kill at boethias shrine. Then kill them again with the ebony blade. You can keep resurrecting them till it's Mac level.
Tonvar Silver-Blood
Haven't finished the intro of the video but I'll say I got the blade before I did the quests for the cannibal ring and so I upgraded the blade with the lives of the cannibals once I had become the champion of the prince and won their trust
Just gonna put this out there, dead thrall allows you to do this to anyone you like for as many times (but I could be wrong it’s been a while since I played)
I love that whenever you say the title of the video you don’t day “in Skyrim” at the end. Now everyone at work probably thinks I’m planning a murder spree 😂
If you kill Waylon before he kills Margret she will give you a necklace but it doesn’t give you another speech option when Eltrys gives you the note
I just wiped out orc strongholds after becoming blood kin😈
I need to know the source for the picture at 0:41 for... research purposes.
MarHor on Reddit. They were going to do all seventeen Daedric Princes, but I think just ended with this one, sadly, as I want Clavicus Vile.
gross what the fuck
I adopted Sissel this time around along with Lucia.... I just wish it was more simulation like where I could bring Sissel for tutoring sessions in magic, or idk, teach the kid myself. And also teach them hunting and all that that. That would be great. Make actual trips andake a parental relationship and family bond vs what it is now.
I like how Skyrim is over 7 years old yet still has a big enough fan base to make a video as simple as this 😂
It's more than a decade at this point lol! 12 whole years of skyrim
With the master Raise Thrall spell you can just give coin a few times to a single beggar and keep killing and bringing them back repatededly to max out the blade.
Surprised that with Aela the huntress wasn't even an honorable mention, she becomes unessential after becoming harbinger and is the only companion you can't cure of lycanthropy. her animalistic bloodlust and loyalty to Hircine make her potentially even more dangerous than Sinding, especially considering her high social standing. The Mercy of Stendarr does not extend to Daedra worshippers.
How dare you kill my favourite wife 😮
@@K.TheSurvivalist she's cool but also a worshiper of hircine soooooooo
@@am_meep eeeh gotta deal with the downsides, ain’t nobody perfect right? 😂
Wouldn't killing Aela with the Ebony Blade make *you* the Daedra worshipper?
@@MythicByrdyes 🤣😂
There is that beggar in Ivarstead that you're going to eliminate anyway in Dark Brotherhood sidequests. Just find his sister's locket and he's good to go. Just use the Ritual Stone ability.
I mean Sissel's magic learning can be remedied easy enough. Adopt her, and marry a mage, or I suppose if you yourself are a Magic User you could theoretically be teaching her.
Ralis from Kolbjorn Barrow. For one, you let him think he got away with mindless murder. Second, he thinks you're his friend. Third, sacrifice him with the Ebony Blade at the shrine of Boethia.
Madanach can also be killed if you side with him in the forsworn conspiracy, so he and thonor are interchangeable.
Fun fact: you don't need kill all of them. Just play served Cold Quest where at Ash Citadel you can Kill Tirrisu & Milli (the Betrayal) + Ritual Stone
As i said about who to sacrifice to Boethiah , i often choose Erandur the so called priest of Mara
Erandur denounced his past. He is a good person.
@@StarlightEdith For me he is still a traitor to the reclamation. First follower of Vaermina then to Mara Ni excuses for a zealot dunmer 😈
Ritual stone and Lydia at Boethia's shrine. Then Fus-ro-dah her in a northwestern direction towards Azurah's statue.
I only do that in a casual run... the exploit, I mean.
The Thalmor believe that the creation of Mundus was the worst mistake in history. The Daedra also hate Mundus. So naturally, slaying Thalmor with a Daedrinc prince's blade would be quite poetic. Sending their souls to the Soul Cairn, which is in Oblivion, rather than letting them ascend to Aetherius, is also hilarious.
Your distain for Lemkil fuels me more than breakfast
Saviour's Hide. Saviour. As in one who rescues you from something. It's just the UK spelling.
pro tip, help Sindig against the hunters and get the uncursed ring, then go back and slaughter him with the Blade for the Savior's Hide. Win/win, your Ebony Blade got a bit stronger and you scammed another Daedric Prince out of 2 artifacts. It doesn't get more decietful than that.
Idk about Ondolemar, he does actually treat the Dragonborn with respect for performing the task, which is quite frankly leaps and bounds for a Thalmor. You can also complete Boethiah’s sacrifice with the priestess of Azura and so pretty much cause a minor Dunmer pantheonic civil war. Also I’m pretty sure killing Nilsine causes her parents to end their lives so maybe there’s such thing as too much death lol
My answer Kill some bandits get the ritual stone res then kill them (bc you summoned them they are an ally) then get the upgrades
Great and well thought out video! :D
Just use Narfi the beggar after finishing his fetch quest.
Make sure you have the Dead Thrall spell to raise him back 10 times for the charge to full
I think this video is a really fun idea, so I'd like to rank each of your choices in my personal ethics tier list. Subject to personal disagreement***
Hert: S tier
A literal serial killer who dies from a quest anyway. Only downside is you wont get the flavor text.
Sinding: D tier
Not bad from a gameplay standpoint, but from morallity? Not sure. Sinding never chose to become a werewolf, and if you become a werewolf or a vampire or whatever, I basically see it like you can either choose to try to find a way to manage your condition like serana or not even try. Sinding seems to genuinely feel bad for his actions and we also know that the ring has the properties of randomly transforming you until the quest is completed.
Silus: F tier morality, S tier gameplay benifits
Yeah not really moral but hey you could get a cool dagger. WHSHHH SWIISHH thats the sound of me swinging and stabbing stuff.
Lemkil: D tier
He may be a bad person but he never did anything worthy of the death penalty and is likely just a really sad person. Not excusing him, but if he dies the kids will likely grow up on the streets or in the orphanage like so many of the homeless children that get eaten up by skyrim.
Thonar Silver Blood: C tier
Killing him seems good on the surface until you realize that because he basically owns the town, a political assassination would probably lead to lawlessness and rioting. Or maybe everyone would do wonderfly. I have the silver bloods too, but they are also the entire economy of the town. So while it gets a C tier, there are enough unknowns it can get no higher.
Ondolemar: B Tier
This one would get S tier for me, for being a member of a secret police force that imprisons people for their religion, however as is mentioned in the video the cost of befriending him defeats the justification.
Melka: A tier
While I see pretty good justifications here, there is ultimately a bad feeling about killing a monster that had the decency to not attack. The fact that every other hag raven just starts attacking me makes me instantly like her more. Almost makes me forgive her for eating people. Almost.
Hroggar: F tier
The video doesnt seem that confident in this one. I think breaking the spell is the way to go especially since that is an option.
Markarth Cannibals: S tier
Yeah these guys are just awful. All of them are pure evil.
Jaree-Ra and Deeja: S tier
this one is almost cheating because you can get a free kill for defending yourself.
Dark brotherhood contracts: most are F tier hern is S
Yeah, its good for gameplay reasons, but going off of pure morality, the dark brotherhood is the baddies. The windhelm one with the shatter shields is a crushingly sad tale. Probably the most immoral killing on this list.
The dark brotherhood members: S tier
The dark brotherhood is the baddies. Plus all you have to do is kill grelod the kind to join, which only make orphans able to be adopted and helps the world. Oh and those people who are tied up but just kill the kajiit only who claims to have many enemies. Then you can easily get 5 without effort. Not sure if you need to do more missions for it to count with the blade.
Boethea's sacrifice: ? tier
Kind of irrellivant to this comment because Im just talking about the ethics and it could be anybody
Neloth calling Ondolemar an arrogant bastard is hilariously ironic. Neloth is just another high and mighty elf that needs a good chop from Wuuthrad after the dragon born is done using him. Tragic that he’s essential but luckily mods can fix that problem.
I always use Lydia (the worst follower) and the necromancer standing stone to level the blade up
I agree with most of these choices, the only one I'd swap out is Hroggar. Maybe if there was an alternative quest path where you couldn't kill Alva for whatever reason so had to mercy kill Hroggar and it would still power the blade I could accept that, but after going through all that then stopping his chances of moving on is just too cruel for me.
For purley personal reasons I would probably kill Marcurio instead. The fact that you can marry him immediately after paying him 500 gold always rubbed me the wrong way. I get it's just a technical oversight on the developer's part and I'm sure other followers do it too but he was the first character I found out you can do this to so that's always stuck to him for me. It comes across like his loyalty can easily be bought to the point where he'll spend the rest of his life in holy matrimony with the Dragonborn just because they paid him 500 gold? What if someone comes along and pays 1000 gold? Is he gonna dip and potentially abandon his family cause the price was better? That ain't it chief, on the blade you go
You are such an underrated channel ngl
Didn't know there was a quest where you could befriend a Hagraven, lol
Thought i had explored every bit of land in this game
your own summons count as companions at least the fire atronach so u just need to kill a bunch of those
That one vagabond in the sewers of riften is a must
Another good one is Torbjorn Shatter-Shield but this one is also a bit.....morally questionable. Just, hear me out. The Shatter-Shield Clan is grieving when you first arrive to Windhelm, especially the mother Tova, because they lost their daughter to the serial killer that's roaming around. If you talk to Torbjorn he'll give you quest to get an amulet of Arkay as a present for his grieving wife. If you do that, you have officially befriended him. Now to the questionable part. As already mentioned in the video, you get an optional quest in the dark brotherhood questline to kill Nilsine, the second daughter of the Shatter-Shield Clan. If you do that the mother won't be able to endure the loss of another child and ends up taking her life so she'll be reunited with her daughters. This leads to Torbjorn being the only one left in the Shatter-Shield Clan, having now lost his wife and 2 daughters, and he ends up becoming depressed and an alcoholic because of it. So now you could technically kill him with the Ebony Blade, put him out of his misery and reunite him with his family in Sovngarde. Win win?
Kill him after causing his depression to be unrecoverable .. crazy