Leveling your truck especially with a double cab will shift some of your weight to the rear of the truck balancing out your ride . Trucks tend to bounce or buck in the back when empty and will even dribble on washboard surfaces. Shifting some weight to the back helps reduce this and makes the truck feel more planted on dirt roads without breaking the bank . Also the 5100s are available separately so if you do blow one out or damage it you can get away with just replacing the damaged unit if their not that worn . Replacing in pairs is always recommended but it depends on how much money you have and again how old the shocks are.
Videos like this make me realize how easy it is to make a youtube video on products that I can buy online. Especially being in flagstaff arizona. I have a crew plus a group of friends that I know can make a video just like this. I appreciate you unloading this video 🎉
Just installed these on my 22 tacoma trd sport I have the front set on the 4th groove and it lifted it 2 inches and the rear I only have the 5100 shocks. I love the ride and looks so much better. Now I'm putting on bf goodrich trail terrain ta's should be a nice set up for the light off road trails I go on
Went with them after months of reach mainly this video gave me the push too do so and went thru stage 3 website because they had the cheapest price for same quality product that’s marked up on so many other pages
@@trevorwilliams6409 excellent! On Rd handles cornering and stopping way way better... Night and day off road-. I've been doing light crawling and some 3/4 trails.. Couldn't be happier! Well I could but that's be several grand more.. Lol (3"kings or something) No complaints but it is a bit stiff on fast whoops.. luckily that ain't me...
I'm looking at this kit that you posted above and had a few questions: I have a 2018 OR and daily my truck with some occasional off roading. will this kit allow me to run 33's on 16 inch wheels? given that I have the correct offset wheel and parts
Whats the distance from the bottom of the wheel wells to the center of the rim? I added 5100 up front to myb2017 tacoma trd sport and set the shocks to the lowest position. My truck sits rather high. It seem like a bigger gap than your truck.
Stage 3, i just ordered the wheels and the 5100 level kit from you guys. They are both on back order. Do you guys have an estimatated time for these items?
Thank you for the video excellent information. I own a 2023 Tacoma SR5 v6 4x4 and I want to install the B8 5100 front and rear. Was thinking about the 4th clip front 1.5 and adding a 1 inch spacer in the rear. What do you think about this setup?
Not lifting the rear saves you from having to use shims and go through the nightmare of dealing with drive-train angles being different causing vibrations
With factory springs bumping it up one will make the vehicle level. A factor to consider is if your putting stuff on the tacoma with notable weight its position will change things.
@@jacobw1993 no I have a 06 tundra and I am running 33’s and it rubs a little bit when you fully turn the wheel but it won’t affect anything long term. You should be good!
Noah great video..please tell us the model for example Toyota tacoma SR/SR5/OFF-ROAD or 4 x 2 or 4 x 4 or 2.7liter /3.5liter... maybe it doesn't matter?
Thanks Legion! The truck we have here is a 2018 SR 4x4 with the 3.5L, but this kit should work on any Tacoma from 2016-2022. I believe Bilstein also has a version of the 5100s for the 2005-2015 Tacoma.
@@NoahStage3 i was wondering if you had to do any kind of carrier bearing drop or front diff drop along with this 1.5" front lift? I'm about to have the exact kit installed at the same height and was wondering if your drive line was affected?
These 5100s would perform better if he had used longer aftermarket coilovers so that you don't use beyond the stock clip setting thus retaining downward travel.
285/70 check out more information about this builds setup here on dedicated build page www.stage3motorsports.com/Stage-3s-2018-Toyota-Tacoma-SR-3-5L-V6-Project-Truck-Suspension-Wheels-Tires.html
Shouldn’t need to. I lifted mine 2” front and 1.5” rear with no issues with the TSS. I even have my grille logo blacked out with vinyl and it’s unaffected!
It's a little tough to compare the two since the Ranger is running a Fox 2.5 kit which is a much more off road focused system than the Bilsteins. The Fox kit allows the Ranger to push higher speeds and it eats up bigger ruts and bumps more nicely, but at lower speeds the Taco keeps up just fine and goes all the same places the Ranger does.
Every single review I have read or watched states that Eibach is more comfortable on-road and equal with Bilstein off-road. This includes individuals on TH-cam who are not paid for their opinions in some manner. This includes comparisons with the Bilstein 6112 shocks, which are a big upgrade from the 5100s you are reviewing. So your opinion doesn't appear to be accurate when so many other opinions and reviews contradict you. Other reviewers state Eibach hands down is more comfortable on-road than Bilstein. The Eibachs also have a lifetime warranty and a great reputation for backing their shocks. Bilstein, not so much.
How about a kit to replace the c channel frame with a real frame? Or another kit to replace drum brakes with disc brakes? Or another kit to replace the plastic box with a metal one? Endless possibilities!
I'd argue that those features are what makes the Tacoma more capable and dependable off road than most other mid size trucks, but it all depends on your lifestyle. If you want better towing and hauling capability then those traits obviously wouldn't be a benefit.
@@jakp8777 I’ve worked at a union plant it sucked to many lazy people saying that ain’t in my job description. Drum brakes last forever the front brakes do 70% of the stopping on all new vehicles. Plastic bed is actually pretty nice and they have been around long enough to prove dependable. Tacomas are made Texas proud!!
@@jakp8777 we only have tax funded temps in Union plants that don’t pay well. Definitely rather buy something from Japan than china. Unions are just another form of socialism!
Contrary to popular belief, I can't actually "feel" lift height. I did however say that I "think" we were at 1.50" which seems to have been a solid estimate.
I'd recommend sticking to the 4th since it'll ride a little nicer. Maxing out struts and coilovers tends to make the ride a bit bouncy in my experience. Hope that helps!
This kit will work on TRD offroad package trucks, but not on TRD Pro trucks. It replaces the shocks themselves, but reuses the factory spring and top hat. You can run these Bilsteins at max height, but it would be best to upgrade your upper control arms if you do that. Also, I would not recommend combining it with any other type of leveling kit or spacer because that will eventually damage the truck. Hopefully that helps
@@NoahStage3 Hello again Noah, if I am planning on using this kit at max height, will I need to install a diff. drop kit and UCA upgrades for the rear as well? Or just front UCA?
@@Haclatt A diff drop kit may be a good idea at max height, but I don't know if it would be required. As for the rear, the Tacoma has a solid axle with leaf springs so there aren't any UCAs to worry about there.
Leveling your truck especially with a double cab will shift some of your weight to the rear of the truck balancing out your ride . Trucks tend to bounce or buck in the back when empty and will even dribble on washboard surfaces. Shifting some weight to the back helps reduce this and makes the truck feel more planted on dirt roads without breaking the bank . Also the 5100s are available separately so if you do blow one out or damage it you can get away with just replacing the damaged unit if their not that worn . Replacing in pairs is always recommended but it depends on how much money you have and again how old the shocks are.
Videos like this make me realize how easy it is to make a youtube video on products that I can buy online. Especially being in flagstaff arizona. I have a crew plus a group of friends that I know can make a video just like this. I appreciate you unloading this video 🎉
Just installed these on my 22 tacoma trd sport I have the front set on the 4th groove and it lifted it 2 inches and the rear I only have the 5100 shocks. I love the ride and looks so much better. Now I'm putting on bf goodrich trail terrain ta's should be a nice set up for the light off road trails I go on
I have 2017 trd sport and thinking doing the same. How’s your experience thus far?
I'm planning also to get the 5100 on my 2021 tacoma Trd OR. Did it mess up the calibration of the TSS on your Taco trd sport?
5100’s won’t disappoint. Moved front from 4th to 5th setting no ride difference IMO. Wouldn’t change a thing great budget lift. Great video. 🤘🏻
Thanks Dino!
Loving this budget approach to mods.
I just ordered these from your website! I plan to pair this with OME 887 springs and an icon 1.5” AAL
Just bought my first blistein 5100 and looking forward for the same results as illustrated from the video. Great review
Thanks Juan!
Went with them after months of reach mainly this video gave me the push too do so and went thru stage 3 website because they had the cheapest price for same quality product that’s marked up on so many other pages
Torn between this and the eibach pro truck kit. Probably can't go wrong way! Awesome content as always 👊👊👊🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
I got the eibach spring's with the 5100's... Best a both👍👍
@@bquade70 nice!!! How's the ride???
@@trevorwilliams6409 excellent! On Rd handles cornering and stopping way way better...
Night and day off road-.
I've been doing light crawling and some 3/4 trails.. Couldn't be happier! Well I could but that's be several grand more.. Lol (3"kings or something)
No complaints but it is a bit stiff on fast whoops.. luckily that ain't me...
Thanks Trevor! Both are solid kits so like you said, you can't really go wrong.
You lifted only 1.5” Front ??
Does it rub on the UCA’s???
I'm looking at this kit that you posted above and had a few questions:
I have a 2018 OR and daily my truck with some occasional off roading.
will this kit allow me to run 33's on 16 inch wheels? given that I have the correct offset wheel and parts
did you change out the needle bearing?
If u had to go a step up for comfortability which kit would u recommend?
Fox 2.0
is there another video showing what trimming was done?
What kind of wheels do you have? Those look dope!
Whats the distance from the bottom of the wheel wells to the center of the rim? I added 5100 up front to myb2017 tacoma trd sport and set the shocks to the lowest position. My truck sits rather high. It seem like a bigger gap than your truck.
Stage 3, i just ordered the wheels and the 5100 level kit from you guys. They are both on back order. Do you guys have an estimatated time for these items?
You'll have to reach out to our customer service team for more on estimated shipping time!
Did you ever get it?
Ever get it ?
When buying this setup is there any new UCAs needed? Front diff drop? Or just bolt and go?
Do you need a block in the rear to lift the truck 2 inches or will the shocks do that
use an add a leaf kit, AAL.
Thank you for the video excellent information. I own a 2023 Tacoma SR5 v6 4x4 and I want to install the B8 5100 front and rear. Was thinking about the 4th clip front 1.5 and adding a 1 inch spacer in the rear. What do you think about this setup?
What did end up doing? I just bought a TRD Sport. 2023. I want to do 2.5 in the front, and 1.5 in the rear
Do these improve ride quality on the road?
I'm confused. so what's the purpose of a "leveling" kit
How did you make you drl amber on your alpharex
What level should i place my shock if my truck already has a 2inch lift?
I have a 2020. Have these just have to install. Nit doing anything to the rear. Does 1.55 or 1.1 a better idea to make it level?
Not lifting the rear saves you from having to use shims and go through the nightmare of dealing with drive-train angles being different causing vibrations
Now when are y'all gonna have them in stock?!
Make sure to sign up for our email Chance they should be landing sometime early next month, but they'll sell out quick!
How long will this kit last.
Do you guys have any discount codes ? we can use if we order them through that company
What setting would I need for a 2nd gen Tacoma in order to level the truck ?
With factory springs bumping it up one will make the vehicle level. A factor to consider is if your putting stuff on the tacoma with notable weight its position will change things.
That's awesome! What is the mpg? I have a 5100 bilstein 2.5 and love it gonna put 275 or 285 what u think?
i would run 285 that’s what i have with the 5100
@@romancordova8650 really? That's great! Did you cut out any of the fenders?
@@jacobw1993 no I have a 06 tundra and I am running 33’s and it rubs a little bit when you fully turn the wheel but it won’t affect anything long term. You should be good!
@@romancordova8650 thx man!
Can i keep stock upper control arms with 285/70/17 and sema wheels on my tacoma?
Will these fit 2011 tacoma?
What wheels and tire size uses. My Tacoma that same suspension 2” front 1 rear
You hace pics of your Tacoma ?
Do you have the part number from bilstein?
How are you able to change the drl on your headlight to amber and white. I thought the alpha rex only come in white drl only.
My morimoto xbs do this. I drive an sr5 so my drl is tied into blinker line
Noah great video..please tell us the model for example Toyota tacoma SR/SR5/OFF-ROAD or 4 x 2 or 4 x 4 or 2.7liter /3.5liter... maybe it doesn't matter?
Thanks Legion! The truck we have here is a 2018 SR 4x4 with the 3.5L, but this kit should work on any Tacoma from 2016-2022. I believe Bilstein also has a version of the 5100s for the 2005-2015 Tacoma.
@@NoahStage3 thanks for the response ..appreciate it
@@NoahStage3 i was wondering if you had to do any kind of carrier bearing drop or front diff drop along with this 1.5" front lift? I'm about to have the exact kit installed at the same height and was wondering if your drive line was affected?
These 5100s would perform better if he had used longer aftermarket coilovers so that you don't use beyond the stock clip setting thus retaining downward travel.
Is that 3 inch lift?
This kit gives you 2" max lift
@@stage3motorsports how u install the fog light cause my truck doesn’t have the wires harness for the fog light?
may have missed it, but I cant seem to find the details on his tires. 275/75?
285/70 check out more information about this builds setup here on dedicated build page www.stage3motorsports.com/Stage-3s-2018-Toyota-Tacoma-SR-3-5L-V6-Project-Truck-Suspension-Wheels-Tires.html
With this exact lift do you have to reset your TSS so you don't get error messages?
Shouldn’t need to. I lifted mine 2” front and 1.5” rear with no issues with the TSS. I even have my grille logo blacked out with vinyl and it’s unaffected!
Which ride do you prefer the Tacoma or the Stage 3 Ranger?
It's a little tough to compare the two since the Ranger is running a Fox 2.5 kit which is a much more off road focused system than the Bilsteins. The Fox kit allows the Ranger to push higher speeds and it eats up bigger ruts and bumps more nicely, but at lower speeds the Taco keeps up just fine and goes all the same places the Ranger does.
Every single review I have read or watched states that Eibach is more comfortable on-road and equal with Bilstein off-road. This includes individuals on TH-cam who are not paid for their opinions in some manner.
This includes comparisons with the Bilstein 6112 shocks, which are a big upgrade from the 5100s you are reviewing. So your opinion doesn't appear to be accurate when so many other opinions and reviews contradict you. Other reviewers state Eibach hands down is more comfortable on-road than Bilstein.
The Eibachs also have a lifetime warranty and a great reputation for backing their shocks. Bilstein, not so much.
So there’s no lift for the rear?
Correct, This Bilstein leveling kit does not provide lift for the rear
@@stage3motorsports Thanks for the reply! You guys are awesome! I just ordered the bilstein lift kit from you guys.
@@stage3motorsports Can't you add an AAL or spacer for 1" of lift in the rear? It says the rear shocks can accommodate 1" of lift.
@@shannondixon3767 put a 1.5 aad from icon. Works great!
Looks like flagstaff arizona 😊
How do you feel about doing this same setup on a 4 cylinder Tacoma? But maybe with a lighter tire like a C load or standard load. Is it worth it?
Love it on mine, however it took a little over 6k miles to really soften up. I have OME medium duty springs and an a ikon AAL in the back.
@@darknessfalls714 does it feel too slow and sluggish? Or not as bad. I can’t decide. Lol
@@vr812 no, not sluggish at all. If anything it helped with handling. I’m 20k miles in and it feels awesome.
How about a kit to replace the c channel frame with a real frame? Or another kit to replace drum brakes with disc brakes? Or another kit to replace the plastic box with a metal one? Endless possibilities!
I'd argue that those features are what makes the Tacoma more capable and dependable off road than most other mid size trucks, but it all depends on your lifestyle. If you want better towing and hauling capability then those traits obviously wouldn't be a benefit.
@@NoahStage3 a c channel frame, disc brakes, non union assembly labor and a plastic box are all about building this truck cheap, not reliability.
@@jakp8777 I’ve worked at a union plant it sucked to many lazy people saying that ain’t in my job description. Drum brakes last forever the front brakes do 70% of the stopping on all new vehicles. Plastic bed is actually pretty nice and they have been around long enough to prove dependable. Tacomas are made Texas proud!!
@@billylee2312 god bless tax funded temp worker jobs that send profits to Japan and push down wages. God bless Texas and other desperate states.
@@jakp8777 we only have tax funded temps in Union plants that don’t pay well. Definitely rather buy something from Japan than china. Unions are just another form of socialism!
I like how you “felt” that you were just under 1.55” and more like 1.50” lol
Contrary to popular belief, I can't actually "feel" lift height. I did however say that I "think" we were at 1.50" which seems to have been a solid estimate.
Ahh nothing better than driving down lake mary road.
Absolutely! Love that drive especially at sundown.
@@stage3motorsports I camp out at ashurst lake every year. I'm going to take my new Tacoma up there in the next couple weeks actually
What is the largest size tire you can run without any cutting?
275 70 17 will be the largest without issues.
@@gailmaplesden7380 agreed
great video well explained
Did you get drive shaft vibrations after installation?
We did not
great review
I’m debating on doing the 4th clip or the 5th clip (highest setting)...any suggestions?
I'd recommend sticking to the 4th since it'll ride a little nicer. Maxing out struts and coilovers tends to make the ride a bit bouncy in my experience. Hope that helps!
4 and a half
Hes got that squat lol 😆
If I try to use this kit with stock TRD Offroad coilovers at 2.5" of lift will it over-extend my coilovers?
This kit will work on TRD offroad package trucks, but not on TRD Pro trucks. It replaces the shocks themselves, but reuses the factory spring and top hat. You can run these Bilsteins at max height, but it would be best to upgrade your upper control arms if you do that. Also, I would not recommend combining it with any other type of leveling kit or spacer because that will eventually damage the truck. Hopefully that helps
@@NoahStage3 Exactly what I was looking for, thanks for your help!
@@NoahStage3 Hello again Noah, if I am planning on using this kit at max height, will I need to install a diff. drop kit and UCA upgrades for the rear as well? Or just front UCA?
@@NoahStage3 can you explain how using spacers is going to damage the truck? I was thinking on putting a strut spacer, thanks
@@Haclatt A diff drop kit may be a good idea at max height, but I don't know if it would be required. As for the rear, the Tacoma has a solid axle with leaf springs so there aren't any UCAs to worry about there.
Are you sure you aren't Eric Trump?
I ordered these almost a week ago and they haven’t shipped. I emailed customer service but no response
275's work so much better than 285's