Bilstein Shock Showdown - 6112/5160 vs 5100

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  • In this video we go over the Bilstein 5100 series and the 6112/5160 series and talk about which one is right for you. If you enjoyed the video please consider subscribing. Thanks!

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  • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
    @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    What do YOU drive? Let us know ⬇️

    • @JuniorJr_23
      @JuniorJr_23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      2021 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off-Road. Stock shocks are too bouncy on the side streets for me. I don't do serious off-road. What shocks are on my truck now?

    • @anthonyviscusi4042
      @anthonyviscusi4042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2021 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road. Everything stock right now. Would like to go Off-Road maybe 80/20 on/off road but that could change.

    • @anthonyviscusi4042
      @anthonyviscusi4042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      With a 2.5" lift on 5100's do you need UCA's?

    • @ttcherrick
      @ttcherrick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      2011 Xterra Pro4X with 6-speed manual, bone stock. Superb vehicle with one failing: the rear leafs are WAY too soft. Even empty the thing bottomed out on mild dips, and this is from the factory (bought it used from a neighbor with only 9,000 miles on it). Loaded out with my overlanding gear the thing is just not adequate for challenging feral roads (I do a lot of Baja trips). I’ve got about 90,000 on it now. I’d like to get about 2” of lift and chuck those damn leafs. Is this too soon to throw out the factory Bilsteins the Pro4X came with?

    • @pra3t0rian
      @pra3t0rian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      2005 R51 with 2.5” lift front using Bilstein Quick Lifts/factory coils and 3” rear using Armada Springs.

  • @adamm408
    @adamm408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for taking the time to make this, it was very helpful. Will be a future customer for sure

  • @Scantcity
    @Scantcity 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Great job! My girlfriend is 300lbs, can you customize a heavy spring on the passenger side and run a medium driver side?....lol, just kidding, solid info!

  • @gilbertrudy626
    @gilbertrudy626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Actually the 5100’s are made to be used for your factory coil springs. I contacted Bilstein personally and was told, that not using the Factory springs would void the warranty. And that they were designed specifically to work with your factory components.

    • @LandonClimbs
      @LandonClimbs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, no springs on silverados, we have tprsion bars so theres no adjustability on the shock itself at all. Its all done at the key

    • @kennethstephens8046
      @kennethstephens8046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@LandonClimbs not after 2007. No more torsion bars after the cat eye trucks

    • @LandonClimbs
      @LandonClimbs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kennethstephens8046 ah fuck lol.

    • @thebulgarianguy8461
      @thebulgarianguy8461 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weird cause they come for different size lifts for my vehicle (Jeep zj)

    • @livingadreamlife1428
      @livingadreamlife1428 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He works for a company that sells coil springs. No prob with his making a suggestion about alternative coils, imo. Guy is trying to put food on the table.

  • @DIY_AUTO_PHOTO
    @DIY_AUTO_PHOTO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    great video again straight to the point and very informative. I know what I need is just the 5100 ( suspension full kit ) for my xterra but unlike other people I dont even have a budget for that yet lol hopefully some day... in the summer 2021ish

  • @raymondangeles570
    @raymondangeles570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is the info I was waiting for. Now I know which one to get. Just waiting for my 4600 to get a bit worn. Only got 10k after one year. Maybe I'll wait one more year before going with 5100. Already using the RC killa kit and body lift. Keep up the videos. I enjoy watching them.

  • @igoldin74
    @igoldin74 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s such a clear and concise comparison. Thank you.

  • @michaelluciano3690
    @michaelluciano3690 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Best comparison I've found on these 2 popular shocks , thank you. Use bought 2015 Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71 w/ original Ranchos. A shock upgrade is needed so started surfing to get better informed. You shared your expertise in a way where the average consumer can make a proper decision . Keep up the good work.

    • @PJLeo39
      @PJLeo39 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the same truck and I'm thinking of doing the same. How did your decision work out? Better ride?

  • @formula1dizzie326
    @formula1dizzie326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Straight forward and right to the point very informative video thanks a lot

  • @yozy4996
    @yozy4996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent tutorial. Thank you very much.

  • @nicholasmohan5161
    @nicholasmohan5161 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video!!!! thanks for the information you answered all my questions about these two shocks

  • @JasonExplainsThings
    @JasonExplainsThings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome explanation. Researching for a potential Toyota 4Runner project.

  • @adammarcinkowski5911
    @adammarcinkowski5911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I'm looking at the 5100s for my frontier that has considerable weight in the back (tools and drawer/platform system). Thoughts on going with a leaf pack to additionally raise the rear?

  • @RealEstateTorontoPhotography
    @RealEstateTorontoPhotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great and very informative - Thank you !
    Which of these two will give you a "Firm" ride and better cornering ??

  • @TheMikecanit
    @TheMikecanit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks bro! was looking at both of these for my 3rd gen tacoma you helped fill in alot of blanks.

  • @Xplr888
    @Xplr888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, great explanation.
    I drive a GX470, airbag delete with toy tech springs in the rear. Currently running 275/65/18, semi-daily driver and plan to overland after this pandemic. Looking for about 2” lift.and don’t want to “upgrade in a few months”. Which do you recommend? Someone gave me a pair of icon springs (md) for the front.

  • @nealmyers2735
    @nealmyers2735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I added those in my 2015 Silverado in the rear and I have a Rough Country 3 inch lift struts in the front and it worked out great for me. I know not everyone likes their truck to ride stiff but I prefer to go into corners and not have that body roll. It's a heavy truck not a car and I am well aware of that but once in a while it comes in handy.

    • @daviddavis3619
      @daviddavis3619 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would you still recommend the lift struts.

  • @brad4527
    @brad4527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    first of all great educational video! how much would this set up lift the front end of the new 2020 Ford Ranger and what would the cost be . Also I wouldn't not be going off road, witch set would you reccomend being the Ranger tends to be bounce around on the road?Thank you again for your video's !
    Brad.

  • @Mr.Mikey.Holiday
    @Mr.Mikey.Holiday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, you clarified so much, i will settle for 5100s for a few years

  • @kevinvoyer5053
    @kevinvoyer5053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As an owner of a 2019 Colorado Crew Cab 4x4, V6, that I’m totally satisfied with the way it runs an rides. I was interested in leveling the look. However I also tow about once a month, with a 26’, 4,400-6,400lbs. So I could not go over the 2” mark, then tow level without air bags in the rear. So I decided strut spacers were all or nothing, plus only add hight. So I decided upon Bilstein 5100 RHA Struts/Shocks, both to balance the ride. So I set them at 1.9”, that works out perfectly! Being able to tow level. But most importantly, not only hight in front, but added suspension travel! That has really helped a lot off road with big hits that used to cause the front to bottom out, even on the road! Now hardly ever! With superior dampening, especially towing, with a weight distribution hitch, that set the truck/trailer nice an level! I’d advise anyone who is contemplating a leveling kit with spacers to look into the Bilstein!

    • @Doomzday831
      @Doomzday831 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you put 1” blocks in the rear?

  • @dpeagles
    @dpeagles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2017 Tundra here. 6112s set to highest setting.
    Rides great. Better than factory actually.
    Very pleased.

  • @markobrien2264
    @markobrien2264 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A very informative video. Nice job!

  • @ruizpaul642
    @ruizpaul642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great comparison video .on my GX470 I have 6112s with 5160s rear and it rides like butter !! I wouldn't have gone any different way or wanted to spend any more money. On my third gen 4Runner I have 5100 front and rearwith eibach coil springs in the fron. the ride is harsh and I wish I would have just bought 6112 for that vehicle as well.

    • @danbraden4401
      @danbraden4401 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you do the airbag delete? If so what kit?

    • @RealeaD
      @RealeaD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Decided on 6112 on the front. Can't decide between 5100 and 5160 on the rear. I really want 5160 believing it would be better offroad, but there are many instances 5160 leak. Kind of stuck! Do you think 5160 is better offroad than 5100?

  • @martyray518
    @martyray518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a 2014 Tundra v6 long bed SR work truck single cab . I bought that kit 6112/5160’s best bang for the money $$, I’m so pleased with them , I totally recommend them 100%. I did add a 2” spacer to the 6112’s and I got a 5.5” total lift , I got the perfect hight that I wanted to clear my 35’s the ride is so smoooth . Best mod for my truck . 👍👍

  • @Firefighter0763
    @Firefighter0763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 2007 Toyota FJ 4x4. Looking for about 2.5/3 inches of lift. It’s my daily driver and I got out on trails during the weekend(light trails nothing crazy) what would you recommend? I’ve heard very good things about these Bilstein kits.

  • @eturnltube
    @eturnltube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great explanation video; however there was a phrase mentioned several times that wasn't clearly explained: Rides very well :)
    This seems subjective. Can you elaborate more on what is meant by vehicle handling that rides really well? Thanks!

  • @aaronmosser
    @aaronmosser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, appreciate the honesty. Looking to replace shocks on 17 4runner trd off road. I want to wheel it but wife doesn't want to, woman! How many miles does one get from stock springs?

  • @perspicator5779
    @perspicator5779 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantasric info session. Nicely concise and thorough info. w/out blah-blah!

  • @TRD_JAY
    @TRD_JAY ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. A comparison of the suspension I’m interested in.

  • @finditfixitmechanics
    @finditfixitmechanics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video, this helped make my decision. Thanks!

    • @mikekelly8125
      @mikekelly8125 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey where can I get a lift installed near Ann Arbor Michigan

  • @stevea3936
    @stevea3936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very informative

  • @fdroepman8351
    @fdroepman8351 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great information. If you happen to choose a front level height that's too high or too low, can you adjust the front level without taking the strut out and apart again? Thanks

  • @AZOverland2017
    @AZOverland2017 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent information!

  • @artm6723
    @artm6723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do they compare with the old Donahue shocks? I have a 2008 Tacoma and installed Donahue/Icon shocks way back when. Can't decide between replacing with new icons or going with bilstein.

  • @jaypalisoc2857
    @jaypalisoc2857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would you guys be able to do a coilover/shock comparison between the brands that you carry? ie: radflo vs fox vs Ome vs dobinsons etc...Thanks! Love all the content that you guys are putting out.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's a tall order, but definitely something we can look into!

  • @zigzagzakwani4044
    @zigzagzakwani4044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best explanation ever Thaaaanks bradaaa 😎👍

  • @thorsky2754
    @thorsky2754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love my 6112/5160 set up on my 5th Gen 4Runner. Paired with Icon rear coils and track bar, Bilstein front coils becs I have no armor or bumpers yet. Soaks up big hits amazingly, got rid of factory roll and dive. Worth the extra money over the 5100.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great setup and great perspective! Really can't go wrong with the 6112/5160s

    • @RealeaD
      @RealeaD ปีที่แล้ว

      Decided on 6112 on the front. Can't decide between 5100 and 5160 on the rear. I really want 5160 believing it would be better offroad, but there are many instances 5160 leak. Kind of stuck! Do you think 5160 is better offroad than 5100?

  • @cesarflores9974
    @cesarflores9974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got Moog FJ rear coil springs, Metaltech conversion kit, and Fox Shox rear shocks for my 03 Lexus GX470. Would 6112's work better up front, since it has a V8?

  • @doneB830
    @doneB830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video thanks

  • @savetheelephants
    @savetheelephants 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video for people like me just getting a new vehicle to daily and off-road.

  • @jermaxam
    @jermaxam ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video!

  • @dailydoseoflogic5496
    @dailydoseoflogic5496 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I had the 6112 front and 5100 rear on my tundra. Absolutely loved the ride. Can't wait to do the same on my f150

    • @scott8238
      @scott8238 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm thinking of going this route on my Titan.

    • @greekmaster1001
      @greekmaster1001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After installation what was the lift in inches?
      I got a 2019 tundra and looking to upgrade.
      did you use the factory coil springs?

    • @joeydomino6567
      @joeydomino6567 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Going this way on my F150 also. I need front springs so considering price of both 5100 or 6112 assembled with springs looks like around $300. It’s just a street driver but seems like a no brainer to get the 6112s, don’t need them but for $300 more considering set assembled with springs??
      Thoughts?

    • @joeydomino6567
      @joeydomino6567 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      $300 difference in price for pair assembled with springs.

  • @pn312
    @pn312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I have 5100s all around on my 5th generation 4runner with SPC ucas. I love the ride. I really have been happy how it turned out. With the stock springs on the top perch, my lift in front is 2 and a half inches before my new tires. I have Bilstein lift springs in the rear getting me almost 2 inches of lift there. I'm now running 285 70/17s. I'm going to put about 160 lbs of winch and bumper on the front, so I am looking to see about changing the springs eventually.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Great to hear you like your 5100s! We all run SPC arms at the shop as well and they're great. Whenever you add that extra weight in the front, one of our coil springs would be perfect for you!

    • @PandasUNITE
      @PandasUNITE 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How are you still liking this setup? I'm getting 6112's up front with ICON Delta ucas with 5100 shocks in the rear only. Staying stock height in rear and up .85 up front. I drive a ton on highways and byways and tow a couple times a year. I need great manners for both.

    • @pn312
      @pn312 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PandasUNITE I am still pretty happy with the ride. I added the winch bumper and with the extra weight, I lost about 3/4 of an inch front lift. It was perfectly level before, but with the front bumper I am now running right around the factory rake. Since I have the extra weight, I decided to try 6112s with 700 lbs front springs to get back the lift. They’re still sitting in a box right now. I will eventually get around to installing them, but the ride now feels very good to me. I have KDSS btw.

    • @willgotrocks5348
      @willgotrocks5348 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pn312 have you tried the 6112s yet?

    • @pn312
      @pn312 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@willgotrocks5348 They’re still in the box.

  • @JuniorJr_23
    @JuniorJr_23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm looking to upgrade my 2021 Toyota Tacoma's Off Road's Bilstein shocks/struts. I drive mainly on freeways and would like a no bouncy ride. Currently, the stock Bilstein shocks are giving me motion sickness. Which shock setup is significantly less bouncy and it doesn't have to be Bilsteins? I don't do any type of offroading, just tow a jetski (in summer) to the beach using 4x4.

  • @kentsouthers6244
    @kentsouthers6244 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking at replacing Rancho's on 2020 Silverado ... too bouncy. You make a case for the 5100 ... how does it hold up to light towing? Would you consider putting the 6112's on front and the 5100's on the rear?

  • @thrillhunter9897
    @thrillhunter9897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best bilstein video ive seen ty so much.

  • @aschkansabaghi4901
    @aschkansabaghi4901 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video, thanks!

  • @jasco1776
    @jasco1776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Alldogs Offroad Coop can the 6112 be configured to allow any additional wheel travel on a 2017 Frontier Pro4X? I do not want to Titan swap and want the reliability of Bilstein with improved wheel travel. I am running 2" Nisstec spacer and SPC UCA..

  • @resistftl
    @resistftl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just picked up some 6112/5160 with Icon rear springs for my 2002 Toyota 4Runner limited. Gonna get them installed on Wednesday.

  • @johnreysheila9803
    @johnreysheila9803 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just the answer I was looking for. Can a 200+ lbs front bumper and a winch handle the weight with the 6112? Or do I replace the coil to a more heavy duty like the OME 886 and will the coil fit on the shocks?

  • @tself77
    @tself77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I have the 6112/5160 combo on my FJ Cruiser set to factory height. Really glad I made the investment over the 5100s now. It absolutely bombs down beat up county roads and leaves me plenty of overhead if I decide to lift and do larger tires in the future.

    • @petemedin9698
      @petemedin9698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      But how’s the ride quality on the street

    • @KaskadeHD
      @KaskadeHD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how's it do on washboard roads? Or does it not help much?

    • @RealeaD
      @RealeaD ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Decided on 6112 on the front. Can't decide between 5100 and 5160 on the rear. I really want 5160 believing it would be better offroad, but there are many instances 5160 leak. Kind of stuck! Do you think 5160 is better offroad than 5100?

    • @tself77
      @tself77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@petemedin9698 Firm and controlled. I wouldn't consider it harsh at all on the FJ. Definitely an increase in handling and I'm confident hitting rough roads at higher speeds.

    • @tself77
      @tself77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KaskadeHD Definitely helps a bit. Washboards can be tough on suspension.

  • @mikedoingmikethings702
    @mikedoingmikethings702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an F150 that I tow a travel trailer, I don’t go off road. I just bought the 5100 for the rear and I have seen people use the 6112s for the fronts. I don’t care for ride roughness, I need my suspension stiff to prevent sway. Is this a good combo or I’ll stick with a 5100 set fronts and rears? TY!!!

  • @darrylm3627
    @darrylm3627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Stuff, Great Tips👍🏿😀

  • @TheRimeOfTheAncientMariner
    @TheRimeOfTheAncientMariner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful!

  • @RoyFJ65
    @RoyFJ65 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got TRD tuned 6112/5160 on my 2016 FJ Cruiser, couldn't be happier on or off road.

  • @kevins.1752
    @kevins.1752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the very informative video and information. I am at a crossroads as I need new front springs so looks like I need the 6112 and 5160. I have a 2003 T4R with V8 and am wondering what is the highest lift I can go without needing spacers etc to address the transfer case and cv angles?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The 6112s are an "OE Length" shock so you won't need to do any sort of diff/t-case drop with that setup. You'll see up to 2.25" of lift from that kit. We have a variety of rear coil spring options manufactured for us. Feel free to shoot us a message on facebook or via email if you have any more questions!

    • @kevins.1752
      @kevins.1752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the advice.

  • @tonyp4197
    @tonyp4197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 2007 Tundra TRD pkg. The ride is super stiff. I am looking for a more smoother comfortable ride more than anything. Do you recommend I go with 5100s on all 4 corners? Or 6112s up front and 5100s in the rear? Or is there another brand near the same price point that rides real smooth?

  • @camdenaguon5197
    @camdenaguon5197 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great information!!

  • @Ulghart
    @Ulghart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I recently got a 2014 4runner SR5 in excellent condition, and I am so in love with my car. That said, I did notice that it does like a nosedive when applying brakes. Also, the ride quality is excellent, but again a little bit too soft. I'd like to eliminate as much as possible that nosedive and also a firmer ride. Do you think 5100 with stock coils would resolve this?
    Thanks!

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      using the 5100 at it's higher spring perches will give you some lift and will add some firmness to the ride

  • @crxken
    @crxken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Lexus gx470. I am comparing between the Bilstein 6112 vs the full Dobinson Vs Old Man EMU lift kit. I mostly will camp, go mountains, but want the flexibility to off-road wheeling without worry. What do you recommend? Or should I mix and match. I have no plans to add a front metal bumper but maybe one day a metal rear bumper with tire carrier.

  • @agustinherrera5600
    @agustinherrera5600 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What weight rating are the coil springs that come with the 6112? Do icon and king coils fit the 6112 shock body since they are flat top and bottom? I have a set of 3x14”x600 pound king coils i would like to try on the 6112

  • @ericrump9703
    @ericrump9703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I'm still left with a question. Towing... I tow regularly with my 2.8 babymax canyon. Is one set more suitable for towing. I'm assuming the best is still the more expensive model Bilstein

    • @lauraandedgar
      @lauraandedgar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only difference between the 5160 and 5100 is the reservoir the 5160 has, ive used both shocks on the trailboss i had and you cant go wrong with either shock

  • @dickgalahad4508
    @dickgalahad4508 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Presentation

  • @blcdad
    @blcdad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the 6112s and the different coil spring weight capacity options available it looks like there are some things to consider with the three variables of coil spring weight capacity, strut clip length and lift amount. How do you determine what setting for the strut clip for any given coil spring to achieve a specific lift height? For example if I choose a light duty spring and place the clip on position #1 will that give me the same lift as using a heavy duty spring and the clip on position # 1.

    • @spatulaman2753
      @spatulaman2753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Springs are typically the same length. The difference is in the diameter of the coil spring wire. Thicker coils are heavy duty.

    • @blcdad
      @blcdad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spatulaman2753 Thanks!

  • @angelperez5125
    @angelperez5125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video!!
    I have a 2019 stock Tacoma which is my daily/work truck. I load the bed with cabinets, sand scoops and Home Depot runs quite frequently and see the sag when I put that weight on. I occasionally do some off roading and camping. I’m also thinking of putting a lumber rack/ leitner rack. By the sounds and looks of it 5100 is calling my name. Since I don’t do too much off roading I don’t think a 3” lift is necessary and 2.5” should be more than enough. Also What springs would you suggest me going with and should I swap my leafs or add and if so what option would be best?
    Thanks

    • @timsilva1944
      @timsilva1944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here's a thought:
      Get some Firestone Ride Rite air bags. You can air up for loads or release some pressure for a better ride without a load.

  • @61espo
    @61espo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would the 5100 be a good upgrade for the stock Bilsteins in a 2017 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road 4X4? I want to leave it stock, no lift… I want to go with better shocks though…it came stock with the Bilsteins.

  • @SuperDrhook
    @SuperDrhook 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am running the 6112/5160's (TRD pro model) on my 2nd gen taco I always wanted to know the payload capacity limits on the 5160's I am running my stock leaf springs but with single AAL's installed I overloaded the rear a few times pulling a boat & bags of ready mix cement to point where my rear end suspension was sagging & almost bottoming out does this affect the 5160's in the long run like reduced life expectancy & performance?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As long as your bumpstops are doing their job, you shouldn't be at risk of damaging your shocks by putting heavy weight in the back.

  • @cabster7
    @cabster7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you combine the remote rez 5160's on rear with 5100's shocks on front? I have a Ford F150 RWD 2011. I'm guessing it would be an overall smoother ride with better off-road handling than just 5100's all around?

    • @69mag
      @69mag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is AMERICA, you can do anything you want..

  • @Issac_Tru
    @Issac_Tru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you get a different coil to allow for more lift?

  • @omar2008ification1
    @omar2008ification1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video.

  • @Phuckseeds
    @Phuckseeds ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ran 5100 on a frontier I had a few years ago. I loved them enough to buy them again two weeks ago for a GMC Sierra I just got and install them this past weekend. Would recommend to anyone over and over.

    • @kylewest100
      @kylewest100 ปีที่แล้ว

      Question, what kind of driving do you do? On my 07 Silverado I want to make it mor comfortable when going fast over rough terrain. Gravel/Dirt roads mild trials etc etc. I’m not building a Prerunner but I do want something that’s ok road wise but soon as you hit a horrible bridge in NC it soaks it up like nothing and keeps on keeping on

  • @martyray518
    @martyray518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vids ❗️❗️❗️❗️
    I have a 2004 taco 4x4 . Automatic
    Can I use the 6112s and 5160 ?

  • @kiriakoskiriakou4458
    @kiriakoskiriakou4458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can i use bilstein 5160 or 5165 in my landcruiser fj40 with leaf springs ?

  • @joshua32979
    @joshua32979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your presentation on information relative to the Bilstein 5100s/5160s and 6112s. I drive a 2011F150 Harley Davidson with an iron block 6.2liter up front, very heavy. I just installed the 5100s on the rear and love them and I'm considering the 6112s installation for the front .🤔 Do you recommend pairing the 6112s with the 5160s only or can I pair the 5100s with the 6112s as well seeing that I have the heavy iron block 6.2liter up front?

  • @duridersa
    @duridersa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stupid question but those retainer rings to adjust the coil height, how do they not pop off With the load of the Spring on it?

  • @luciussulla987
    @luciussulla987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got a set of 6112's and 5160's for a '17 pro4x, along with Mevotech/SPC UCA's and a leaf pack, is there any recommendations for what else I would need to get the most out of this setup in terms of performance if I'm after a 2" lift for bombing down logging roads? Some Timbren bump stops are on my list but that's about it at tis point, any ideas?

    • @ShockSurplus
      @ShockSurplus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's about all you need, nothing else is going to provide more suspension performance, except maybe a really good rear leaf pack like the Icon RXT, or Deaver setup (progressive leaf pack)

  • @trailboss78
    @trailboss78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I lowered my 1500 Chevy 2011 LT crew cab Silverado 2 inch in the rear what Bilstein shock will work for me...?

  • @br00klyngreek13
    @br00klyngreek13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you use the 6112's up frontand the 5100s in the rear on a 3rd gen tacoma off road?

  • @coleporter20
    @coleporter20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    About to buy the 5100 kit for my '21 TRD Off road Tacoma. 90% Daily Driver and 10% weekend overlanding.

    • @robbieyh
      @robbieyh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i use the 5100 on the rears and they are great! 2000 tacoma

    • @TheUndergroundbeats
      @TheUndergroundbeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robbieyh 5100 are your basic budget shock, don't expect much in terms of improved ride. it will stiffen it up, but it won't dampen rebound like a high quality CO like fox, king, etc.

    • @anthonysalazar2852
      @anthonysalazar2852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Justin M. will the 6112 give an improved ride quality without making the truck to stiff?

  • @StormLaker
    @StormLaker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been looking at the 4600 series for my 03' F150 that is my daily driver/tow vehicle. Not sure if the 5100's are right because they are more for lifted vehicles? Mine is a stock "off road" FX4 package, and I'm not sure what the factory "lift" is on those. Most likely going to buy the 4600's or replace with the Rancho RS5000's that came with the truck and are completly worn out. (guessing they are the original ones).

  • @eljaye1962
    @eljaye1962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the best shock for truck? I have a 2019 silverado with a 4 inch lift. Most of my driving is street and highway. I few times a year I go out in the country where the roads are muddy and a little bumby

  • @EWOverland
    @EWOverland 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing. Which kits are avaiable for Pajero NS ?

  • @frankimperiale4470
    @frankimperiale4470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need new shocks! I have a 2017 F350 Duly with 93,000 miles. I think it’s time I’m feeling every slight bump. I also tow a 28’ RV. Which do I use !

  • @usa45v26
    @usa45v26 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For street driven 2019 Tundra, would 5100's paired with 2" lift coils (Dobinsons etc) be a better option for ride quality than using oem coils with 5100 at 2" circlip preload for lift? Thinking 6112 is overkill for road truck unless the ride quality is way better on street than 5100 setup mentioned above. As for the rear plan on using a 1" (max) tapered block if necessary for level.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be our approach. The ride quality would certainly be better. :)

  • @adrianarcelo3287
    @adrianarcelo3287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the rears what spacer would you recommend for a 4th Gen 4Runner

  • @AROD.
    @AROD. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have 6112 that came fully assembled for my 2019 tundra I have it on the top setting would it be any better or difference off roading if I use a lift spring and lower it to the lowest setting compared to the spring it came with snd the preload it has due to being at top setting

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are happy with your ride quality we'd suggest sticking with the springs provided. You can pick up springs with a longer free height and higher rate if you wanted to tune your ride a bit more.

  • @matmuffin1
    @matmuffin1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Had 6100s on my last titan loved the ride

    • @Eric_Gonzo
      @Eric_Gonzo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have them on my Titan now and love them as well.

  • @gk_coach_mario3843
    @gk_coach_mario3843 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey thank y’all so much for this video! Incredibly informative! I’m looking to get the 5100 kit, and was told that you shouldn’t max them out to the 2.5” inch height because it will reduce the height of the shock.. is there any truth to this? (I drive a 18 tacoma). I’m also gonna be adding UCA’s. My last question is if i add 33s if they would clear or would i have to do some minor plastic trimming? thanks in advance!

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More than anything, maxing the height reduces ride quality. For 33" you'll have to trim some plastic.

    • @eldorado96
      @eldorado96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "...reduce the height of the shock"
      The more precise way to view it is that raising the ride height using this adjustment is also consuming exactly that much of the upward travel/extension of the shock. Probably not a big deal by itself because the other components (in OEM form) are going to limit range of motion anyway.
      If your UCAs are intended to increase range of motion, maybe you need a longer than OEM shock anyway.

    • @bquade70
      @bquade70 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eldorado96 exactly👍👍
      Lake Havasu 🌞 Az

    • @vanwynn8193
      @vanwynn8193 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop Hi how much for 5100 with assembly I have 2015 Tacoma 4x2 I need front and rear. please let me know how much it that thanks.

  • @dlg5485
    @dlg5485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Most of these reviews focus on comparing off-road performance, but I want to know if there is a significant difference on-road. I like to drive aggressively so handling stability on pavement is my top priority but I want to get more into off-roading so I also want something I can grow into and won't need to upgrade for many years. I don't mind spending a little more money for a product that performs better in all situations, will last longer and give me room to grow into it, even if I don't necessarily need the capability now. I'm a firm believer in the buying once and crying once, rather than saving a few buck now only to be disappointed later.

    • @robertespinoza2740
      @robertespinoza2740 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want to know the same

    • @traknologist
      @traknologist ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd like to know the same thing too and am having the same issue with all the reviews.

    • @spxram4793
      @spxram4793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same question here. I watched a few other videos and landed here th-cam.com/video/55zr3LuemwI/w-d-xo.html
      basically, the recommendation usually lands with 6112 in the front and 5160 at the rear. The 5100 seem to be cost effective OEM replacements for "usual" trucks ( so those which are not prepared already by the factory for hard off-road use)

    • @AntonioClaudioMichael
      @AntonioClaudioMichael 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In my opinion he didn't compare much of anything to be honest

    • @RedBeardDevelopment
      @RedBeardDevelopment 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have 5100s but can’t speak on the 6112. 5100s are installed on my 07 Sierra, so a heavier vehicle. Don’t experience much body roll, if any and they do really well on the interstate. I do want to try the 6112 so maybe in the future I’ll be able to compare them lol

  • @scientistsnatures1877
    @scientistsnatures1877 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What type of the shockers do you recommend for Tahoe 2021 ?
    I’m looking for the very smooth ride during 10 hours of the ride?
    The originals are to hard and I feed every road imperfections .

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We aren't as experienced with the fullsize rigs but Bilstein is always a good option if they're making something for the 2021.

  • @josemarquez86
    @josemarquez86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for video

  • @ArcheryRuleZ
    @ArcheryRuleZ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    question please, 09 tacoma - if i get those 5100s with coils installed,set to 2" , would those go with your leaf springs that add 2" ? also, i noticed the leafs say "constant +400lb" , would it be fine if i don't have extra weight constantly but just want to carry like 1200lb in the bed every once in a while? thanks for the video

  • @daywalker4029
    @daywalker4029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    that washer YEETED itself lmao

    • @MrBoostup1
      @MrBoostup1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HAHA...! That was awesome...!

  • @John375PD
    @John375PD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a set of the 6112's for my 2010 Silverado, and when I tightened the top mount nut, the thread snapped in half. I sent the shock back to Bilstein to be repaired at my cost. Bilstein shipped the 6112 back to me with the thread snapped off. I called Bilstein. I was told they could repair the shock though I would have to send the shock to them through the vendor as I did when I sent the shock out the first time. Talk about being pissed off. I told the vendor, no matter what, just have the shock fixed. Since then, almost a year later, Bilstein doesn't have ANY 6112 kits for a 2010 Silverado, nor have I located anyone who sells them. So my question is, can you use the springs from the 6112 shocks on a 5100 shock? Do all the 5100 kits come with a spring perch? Looking for any ideas. Thanks.

    • @bajadan2769
      @bajadan2769 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know there customer service sucks !

  • @cyronader
    @cyronader 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 00' mercedes ML 320 uses B6 bilsteins. Can 6100s be modded to fit? just trying to find better shocks.

  • @faceinthecrowd5810
    @faceinthecrowd5810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 2002 Z71 avalanche that I use for plowing and trailering my lawn business. Will the 5100 work well, or should I do something different?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey George, 5100s would work just fine for that!

  • @pepper508
    @pepper508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have 5100s all around on my taco. Really thinking of upgrading the back to 5160s. i do daily drive it, but I off-road quite frequently. I usually do rock crawling with some off camber sections, and a little bit of high speed as well. Would I notice that much of a difference with the 5160s over the 5100s? Or should I look at at something else at a different price point to notice the difference?

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey Carlos! If you were to want to upgrade from the 5100s, we'd suggest switching to a shock such as Radflo. You likely wouldn't notice enough of a difference between the 5100s and 5160s to make the upgrade worth it.

    • @pepper508
      @pepper508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlldogsOffroadCoop I appreciate the quick reply! I’ve never heard of them, but I am
      open to anything. Thank you! - subscribed

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pepper508 Happy to help Carlos! If you ever have any more questions, don't hesitate to give us a shout on facebook!

  • @thewireman134
    @thewireman134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2020 Silverado 3.0 duramax 4x4 crew, I have a 6112 kit but I am curious to the lift difference with the heavier springs? And how much for them. Thanks

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Going with the heavier springs on the 6112 would be best if you have extra weight up front such as an offroad bumper and winch. You might not like the ride quality of you stepped up to a heavy spring without the weight.

  • @MrBallsOfficial
    @MrBallsOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So am I able to get a 3” lift from either of these setups? What else would I need to achieve that lift height? I have a 2020 Tacoma trd off road. Any help would be appreciated.

    • @AlldogsOffroadCoop
      @AlldogsOffroadCoop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'll see around 2.5 with these options. For a full 3" we'd recommend a Radflo extended travel setup

    • @titirititiri6360
      @titirititiri6360 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can do a 1/2” top plate spacer that will give you 3.25” of lift, but then you need uca and extended or longer bump stops for front, i have similar set up, hard off-roading including small jumps no issues

  • @petemedin9698
    @petemedin9698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid, but I need help. Long story short I run 5100 front,rear set to stock with ome885 up front 1’block in the rear. I hate the ride, it’s way to stiff an firm for daily driving. Jarring to say the least. I have a 19 taco that since 19 I hit the trails 6 times. My question is should I go with the 6112? What spring? An what clip to achieve a 2 inch lift. Also does preloading the coil affect ride quality.
    What I need is a lifted daily that drives comfortably. Thanks for the help.

    • @shyonemami7388
      @shyonemami7388 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have my 6112s maxed out on the pre-load for maximum ride height. It still rides great and much better over stock!

    • @scottvamp
      @scottvamp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Weird because I just went with 5100’s on my 2021 TRD and the ride is WAY better than stock.🤔