@@djquik182000 Indeed, opens her up nicely, unlocking whatever she's got to give :-) Contact us on live chat or at 1.833.MOTOROSO and we'd be happy to get you a great deal.
No need to buy a throttle module. Just press the ECT PWR button and the computer modifies the transmission shifts for quicker acceleration. Save your $$$.
I also find the ECT PWR is a perfect mix of throttle response and gearing. It’s really more about customization but I agree, I live off mountain roads and the ECT PWR does plenty even with my little 4 cyl !! .. granted I’m not towing anything besides a few tools and a fiberglass bed cap but still impressed how much power the truck has in reserve climbing hills with just 160ish horsepower
@@jamesp2395 the throttle map is curved, not linear. I’ve adjusted to it. Yes, if I ever go back to a vehicle with a linear throttle map, I’ll probably burn the tires off for the first 6 months 🤣. We just have to push the gas pedal more. When my TRD O/R gets to 4000 revs it’s like somebody mashed a nitrous button.
It was a couple hundred bucks. You'll have to do a little research & find someone thats doing it in your area. Definitely worth the effort, they now have the KDMAX tune, not sure which would be better.
Just got me a 2017 SR5 Taco and found you on TH-cam for upgrades and mods. Great price on Husky floor mats so placed my order last night, thinking I got the rights ones for my auto-trans V6. This morning your customer service pro, Alex, texted me to ask and confirm I wanted the ones for the manual transmission, OOOPS! Alex sent me the links to the Husky's I really need. Alex cancelled my order and sent me the refund confirmation, new order placed and a headache for me was avoided. Can't say thank you enough, PdD in customer service, a pro's pro! Highly, HIGHLY recommend, looking forward to future business and videos from y'all. Mega-props and thanks from a newbie Taco truck owner, CHEERS!!!
Congrats!! And you're welcome. We'd love to get you hooked up with any mods you have planned, so don't hesitate to reach us on live chat at www.motoroso.com, or toll free at 833.MOTOROSO.
PSA: 3rd Gen Tacoma already has a cold air intake, save money, buy a K&N filter. Wheel back spacing will be the same for TRD Off Road, Sport, and Pro (unsure about SR) on the truck; only the factory wheels are different. The first mod anyone should buy for off roading should be rock sliders.
I've had my 17 TRD Sport for a year now. Not sure if anyone else has a manual transmission but I don't have the problem with the power. I can get on it!!!
It would be cool if there was an array of mods that would optimize the Tacoma as a work truck. All the mods I find are more geared toward off road (I get that's a bigger market).
After adding all that weight to your truck, and this is before you add all your gear, you will probably want to look at swapping differential gears as well. that will definitely improve performance from 0-60 and at highway speeds.
I have the pedal commander on City -2 each mode can be set from -4 to +4 in Eco, City, Sport, and sport plus. Best part you can add to the slug that the Tacoma is. I would tell everyone that it should be the first mod to buy for a Tacoma if you want to enjoying driving your truck
@@quinton01 exactly lol. If you don’t keep your truck stock you’re just insecure. Definitely get $20 lights before making your truck enjoyable to look at
@@brandonpatino7385 Just installed a K&N cold air intake on my 2019 Trd Pro. Love the sound on it. Spent about $260 plus tax from K&N through Amazon. I'll have to look into that exhaust.
I just bought a black 4x4 2017!!! I’m really excited I’m picking her up tomorrow. Get them now because these things are selling about 2-3k above sticker price right now. You have all been warned these things are going to be dreams years from now. A lot of people will regret not having one
You should include getting rid of the stock skid plate up front. There’s multiple options that include a door for the oil filter to be removed without dropping the whole skid plate. More durable and more access…can’t beat that for under $300
1-st and only mod necessary after getting the correct transmission (Manual 6-speed) MAGNUSON SUPERCHARGER!!!!! Absolutely wicked Performance!!!! Life is short, dont be that guy on his death bed wishing he would have SuperCharged his Toyota back in the day!!!!! I did both my 2016- 4RUNNER/Tacoma Off Road !!! Both are just NASTY FAST!!!!!! Live Life my fellow Toyota Owners!!!! Magnuson deserves a huge Thank You 🙏
AMEN BROTHER! We sell Magnuson blowers! Anyone looking for this, hit us up at www.motoroso.com or call us toll free at 1.833.MOTOROSO (833.668.6767) and we'll get you a great deal... they retail for over $6500, but we can beat that all day long :-)
My 1st mod on my '20 trd offroad was k&n chrome tube cold air intake. I don't know about any performance gains but when you get the throttle to between 3000 and 5000rpms it sounds wicked almost like a trophy truck. It's badass 😎
@@XBadluckchuckX which one? We mentioned a few. Also, what year is your Tacoma? The ‘21 had some minor changes to the AC lines that prevent the box style intakes from fitting.
@@Motoroso Nooo the chrome K&N intake Mike is referring to. I’m thinking it’s a 77-9039KP but I’m not 100%. And mines a 2018 TRD Off-Road, so I’m all good.
What a great video! Just decided on a Tacoma for an overlanding rig, I was getting lost a bit in what was important and what wasn't! Your website is a great place to find what I want too!
One thing I wished you guys would of touched on when it comes to lifts is the gear ratio and lack of power it may cause from a lift as well as drive shaft spacers or leaf spring shims which are almost a must when lifting the Tacoma. I wish it was as simple as throwing a 6” lift on it and going. Also on the bumpers you guys suggested it would more than likely involve cutting the body to do so. I have lifted around 7 Tacoma’s and on almost all of the lifts have to be done just right.
Absolutely right my friend, wish we had included the re-gearing mod as well! Luckily, the community has come to the rescue, and hopefully people will read the comments :-) Thanks for your contribution!
@@Motoroso That is the great thing about Tacoma owners we all come together if you reach out in the right places and help out! Other than those recommendations you guys covered some great stuff!
With a manual transmission you can eliminate the first two mods with just an intake/exhaust. They have better gears from the factory and the intake helps wake up throttle response a little bit
This video is the ultimate in 3rd gen mods from the 10 or so videos that I have seen. thanks for getting to the nit and grit and what matters in terms of mods
Right before doing a long term review video of my 2018 TRD OffRoad in silver, the dealer offered me a 2021 in Red and with more options. I wasn’t sure about it, but then they offered to give ME a check to do the deal...couldn’t pass it up.
Congrats Carolynn!!! You’re gonna love it. We’d love to earn your business on the parts, please don’t hesitate to contact us toll free at 833.668.6767 (833.MOTOROSO) or via email at support@motoroso.com, or live chat at www.Motoroso.com
Love Tacoma’s and I’ve had 5 total. 2010, 2012 (stolen), 2015, 2019, and now 2021. But my ‘19 4x4 v6 off road 4-door had a fuel delivery issue at highway speed. I found out last Thursday that there’s a safety recall with no remedy yet that was related to the issue I was having. I traded it in for a ‘21.
I live in colorado and Armor is essential here for narrow rocky trails. Skids and sliders for sure and maybe bumpers if you feel like going crazy. Upgrade tires, 235/85/16 = 32inch no rubbing. 255\85/16=33 inch no rubbing. Ovtune is amazing. No need for cai. H11 to h9 halogen headlight mod ~$15 for almost twice the light.
The truck comes from the factory with a cold air intake.. it pulls from the passenger wheel well.. just get the K&N if you're looking for that lol it'll be a lot cheaper. Snorkel I recommend dobinson 4x4 mine was 300 bucks.
Negative. The cold air intake replaces all the piping from filter to throttle body. Stock plastic has massive resonators, and the intake eliminates all of that and also eliminates turbulent airflow.
So I just bought a 21 Tacoma off road 4x4 access cab. My previous Tacoma was a ‘10, then a ‘15, then a ‘19, now this one. I’ve always had to have a seat pad to address the seating position and in my ‘19, i jacked the rear of the seat with a 2” steel square tube and seat jackers for the front. The power seat in the ‘21 fixed the seating position issue 100%. I also want to put a lift on it and after going to the motoroso site, I was unable to find the mentioned Skyjacker kit.
Congrats on the new Tacoma Gerard! We can order the Skyjacker Lift kit, it's a special order item and we don't have a listing on our website currently. If interested in a price quote and shipping time estimate, please reach out to us at support@motoroso.com, or call toll free at 1.833.MOTOROSO!
I installed a k & n drop in filter and it improved throttle response. This engine air starved especially at lower RPM. The Atkinson cycle engine shortens the intake cycle at lower speeds. Any intake improvement will help. A TRD intake accelerator And k & n intake tube may help as well. These mods are considerably cheaper than a cold air intake. The stock air box is a cold air intake. These mods will open the intake and eliminate the air resonance box. I like the Borla cat back system
100% Getting more air into the system, always better! CAI systems are nice, but just the filter helps for sure, the K&N Filter for the V6 can be bought here: www.motoroso.com/p/45270-kn-replacement-panel-air-filter-for-toyota-2014-tundra-46l57l-2014-sequoia-57l-v8?lid=1731392 And we agree, Borla systems are top notch... here's a link for the S-type cat-back system with the black tip: www.motoroso.com/p/474384-borla-16-18-toyota-tacoma-35l-at-4dr-cc-short-bed-s-type-ss-catback-exhaust-black-chrome-tip?lid=1692186
Great video!! I just added the Rough Country 6 inch suspension Vertex coil over lift and 35's on my 2018 TRD Sport. What a difference the stance has, especially up here in Fairbanks Alaska where stock trucks are gobbled up in the snow and/or muskeg.
5:23, please don't suggest 20" wheels. You should not encourage those types of people to be driving Tacomas. Save that for for GM, Chrysler and Dodge products.
Very nice to see the endless mods for the 3rd Gen Tacoma. I am looking to purchase a 2023 TRD Sport or the off road model in the next two weeks. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome James, congrats on the new truck, you're gonna love it! Great color choice too. We'd love to get you set up with your mods, please keep us in mind, and don't hesitate to email us at support@motoroso.com, or call us toll free 1.833.MOTOROSO whenever we can help!
Thanks for making the vid. Lots of good information. Wish you could show some more examples of these mods on the truck, not just the equipment but an actual pic of what it looks like on the vehicle.
I 100% need to get the custom tune mapping. I live in a mountainous area and the shifting points do the opposite of what you want. downshifts two gears and redlines just for a tiny bit of accelration. Then will shift to a lower gear way before it ever gets into powerband, so you apply for gas and it downshifts again TWO gears to redline. What in the HELL were they thinking? My 2000 F-150 V6 manual is a dream to drive in comparision, which is extremely depressing.
If you want "10 ply" tires that won't leave you changing a tire on logging roads, the leveling kit is requisite. It's not vanity and it hardly changes the profile anyway. If you're an adult who wants to look like a 17 year old and doesn't care about road handling, get a lift. You're BA.
Ozzie, you’re correct. I switched to 4.88’s, wish I would have gone 5.29’s though. It holds top gear on the hwy much better. Gears would be first on my list even w/o bigger tires. I don’t have a single complaint about swapping. Warranty is out at 36k anyway. That’s 1.5-2 years for most people. It’s a mute point.
@@99OllllllOWJ it’s one of the most popular first mods for ‘20 and ‘21 owners cause it doesn’t affect your warranty and wakes up the motor in an immediately noticeable way! Only a 5 minute install, no brainer. Grab it here: www.motoroso.com/p/667953-pedal-commander-lexusmitsubishisuzukitoyota-throttle-controller
Dynamic tests have shown "cold air intakes" often provide no boost in power and often result in less power. Everything is computerized and tuned for factory equipment. Some systems on some vehicles provide a few more horse power.
You're welcome Rick, glad it was helpful! We love giving parts love, so please let us know how we can help you get set up! We can be reached on live chat at motoroso.com, or toll free at 833.668.6767 (833.MOTOROSO).
Glad you liked it, let us know how we can help! We've got the Pedal Commanders in STOCK, they sold out several times in 2021, but we have a few on hand right now! www.motoroso.com/p/667953-pedal-commander-lexusmitsubishisuzukitoyota-throttle-controller?lid=1698031
Good Question Paul. We don't think it will. The TSS (Toyota Safety Sense) is an integrated camera and radar system that should function just fine as long as it's still pointed forward. www.toyota.com/safety-sense/animation/ahb. Also, Toyota is well aware the popularity of aftermarket modifications, especially with the Tacoma, so I imagine they will have designed the system to accommodate such changes. And lastly, if someone were to load enough weight into the bed of the truck, it would cause a change in the angle of the front-end, again, I believe Toyota will have designed TSS with these eventualities in mind.
It is possible. The sensor comes from the factory calibrated at a certain height. By adding a leveling kit, you're changing the height and that can cause the sensor to read incorrectly.
carlos martinez if that’s correct then adding load the bed of the truck, carrying 4 full size adults in the cab, or changing tires sizes would all have an affect on the ride height of the vehicle. I’d expect the system has been developed to operate within a range. Additionally, the objects it’s designed to be sensing will be at a significant enough distance that 2” of vertical height would be unlikely to have any tangible effect on accuracy/performance. If someone finds anything that explicitly states the system must be recalibrated anytime the ride height of the vehicle is changed more than 1”, we’d like to know that.
I changed the position of my TSS when I swapped grill inserts. Still works fine. You can add some washers to the bolts if you need to reorient it slightly.
Let's make this COMMERCIAL BETTER! Next time please show products before/after shots and larger product pictures. The host is great but I would rather see a bigger picture of the products installed. I also had to sit through FOUR yt commercials. Not worth it!
I pick up my 2021 cement color today. This video came just in time in my recommendations. Seat covers would be a good thing to add. Kryptek looks good. Keeps those seats perfect underneath haha.
I own a 2017 toyota tacoma trd sport dbl cab long bed. So far ive modded it with the following: K&N 63 series high-flow intake Tri fold tonneau cover Avs bug deflectors Genesis offroad dual battery kit with 2 oddyssey batteries A 1000k watt inverter And inside and outside led light bulbs that i got off amazon. Wanted to know what was your take on superchargers? I herd they stopped for 3rd gen but on another forum i think i herd that another company builds superchargers for 3rd gen. Any thoughts? Also the exhausts are single, would you recommend single or dual? Was thinking as this upgrade as my next project for my truck
Hi Luis, sounds like a great build so far! Yes, Magnuson makes an awesome supercharger kit for the 3.5L Tacomas. It runs about $6500, and it takes your power to 380 at the crank, which is over 300 at the wheels! We sell these kits, as well as the exhaust systems, and we'd love to get you set up. If you're going to supercharge, I think the dual exhaust makes a lot of sense! We can help find the right system for this. Please don't hesitate to call us toll free at 1.833.MOTOROSO (833.668.6767) or email us at support@motoroso.com
You're welcome Dennis, and we'd love to earn your business! A lot of the items we discussed are temporarily out of stock, but if you want help finding options and getting ETA's, would be happy to help. Please feel free to live chat at www.motoroso.com, or call us toll free at 1.833.MOTOROSO, or reach us at support@motoroso.com.
Girlfriend is buying a 2017 4cylinder with a 5speed manual tranny. She is excited... I drive a dodge challenger so when I got behind the wheel it felt like a power wheels with a dead battery to me. Would an ecm tune really do much for a 4 banger? Or just ruin the fuel economy?
Not sure, haven't done much with the 4cyl. We know the pedal commanders are an easy install and make the truck way more responsive... www.motoroso.com/p/667953-pedal-commander-pc38-throttle-controller-for-toyota-tacoma-fj-cruiser?lid=1698031
Hey Aaron, yes both of them are compatible. They are currently backordered due to their popularity! The Pedal Commander is a bit more popular, and coming back in stock sooner. If you order it now they're going to ship 12/1/21... here's a link: www.motoroso.com/p/667953-pedal-commander-lexusmitsubishisuzukitoyota-throttle-controller?lid=1698031
I have a mercedes sprinter I converted myself.... but something is pulling me towards changing for a tacoma trd pro and getting the overland set up! Any advice? Upsides down sides... I have a wife and a two year old... which should mean the vans easier? I don't know the pull is strong
Well that pull is understandable, these trucks are GREAT! It's a different thing from the van, with some pros/cons. First, in your van you can probably stand up, and have a bit more interior space. But on a Tacoma you will get a LOT more offroad performance and the ability to confidently and quickly get to more remote areas. The best way to set up for overlanding is to go with an overlanding bed rack system with modular sliders to store all your gear and tools, can even install a 12v refrigerator. On top you can get a roof mounted tent and awning to sleep the whole family! There's a lot to talk about here, so one of the best ways to advance the conversation would be to give us a call at 1.833.MOTOROSO, or email us at support@motoroso.com!
and the reduced Warranty to only a year and 12,000 miles. But all the TSS stuff will be working properly. I do like the bigger Bilsteins part. I'm skipping exhaust and getting the dealer installed kit.
Hey Ed, depends which product you’re talking about specifically?? Happy to answer your questions specifically, please drop us an email at support@motoroso.com, or reply here and we can clarify.
@@anthonyb6521 the ECU flash definitely has warranty implications, toyota can/will know and then it comes down to whether your dealer service center is "cool" about it or not. The pedal commander is popular because it has no warranty implications. Intake and exhaust are so common, most service centers would not care about it in relation to warranty work, so you should be good there. Let us know if we can help with any specific parts!
The only thing a Tacoma “needs” is OVTune. The factory tune is garbage for power delivery, efficiency, and drivability... can’t be remedied with a simple pedal control module. Also, dyno these cold air intakes and see that they don’t actually do anything on these trucks lol. Just some cool noise for $400
My pedal commander will sometimes cause malfunction reads on the dash, why is that? I'll have to unplug it from the pedal ports and let it reset and plug it in again?
I haven’t heard of that happening before. Could possibly be a bent pin in the plug? Or maybe not being seated fully and locked? I recommend calling pedal commanders support line to ask this question.
Are y'all getting the 4cylinder or v6? I just dont know which one to get. I hear the 4cylinder is build pretty good to last almost no problems but the v6 of course has the a lil more power but comes with problems. What's your take on it???
We advise getting the 6cyl. The 4cyl is underpowered. The 6cyl is too, just not as bad. The throttle module helps open either of them up, without any effect on warranty, and re-gearing will help the truck feel better as well.
Hey Gabriel, that’s probably because the fitment data associated with the products haven’t been brought up to date for the 2020 applications yet. All of our data comes from our sellers and there’s over 1M products, so it’s tough to keep up with. There’s 1,000s of products for the 3rd gen Tacoma, and we have most of them, so feel free to hit us on live chat or at 1.833.MOTOROSO, and you can put in a 2017 Tacoma and get most of the same products. We’re always happy to help confirm it will work for your 2020.
Hi Great video. I do have a question. What's the biggest tire and wheel combo I can Install on 2016 Tacoma TRD I can install with out any doing any modifications?
At stock ride height you’re not going to get much bigger than stock if you plan to off-road it and want bigger tires you gotta go with a full lift kit to fit those 31 and over sizes
Hey Cruz, in our experience you can bump up to a 265/70/17 (which is a 31.6" tire) without rubbing on a stock Tacoma. But, with a simple 2.5 - 3.0" leveling kit or a 3" lift kit, you can bump up to a 285/70/17, which is 32.7". Feel free to hit us up at 833.MOTOROSO or live chat on motoroso.com for help getting wheels and tires :-)
#1 mod I reccomend all you guys. Girl in passenger seat
Couldn't agree more! Easy to install, easy to tune, just EXPENSIVE! ;-)
That's a good way to lose a truck. That's what I did and it turned my Tacoma into a Prius.
@@c0linh20house2 Oh no, that's a disaster!
@@Motoroso Yeah, shoulda just got a dog.
my only issue is do I start at the base model or pay a little extra for the premium model 🤔 lol j/k awesome comment , great video
Just bought a 21 Tacoma off road 4x4, love this thing!
Awesome, congrats Ivan! How can we help you with mods?
@@Motoroso definitely might look into the throttle mod. The ECT PWR button helps a bit, but I bet that throttle mod will set it free.
@@djquik182000 Indeed, opens her up nicely, unlocking whatever she's got to give :-) Contact us on live chat or at 1.833.MOTOROSO and we'd be happy to get you a great deal.
looking to get one myself also any tips
@@michaelsharma6832 you get the best deals on the last day of the month, so today would be a great day to cop one!
No need to buy a throttle module. Just press the ECT PWR button and the computer modifies the transmission shifts for quicker acceleration. Save your $$$.
I also find the ECT PWR is a perfect mix of throttle response and gearing. It’s really more about customization but I agree, I live off mountain roads and the ECT PWR does plenty even with my little 4 cyl !! .. granted I’m not towing anything besides a few tools and a fiberglass bed cap but still impressed how much power the truck has in reserve climbing hills with just 160ish horsepower
Is it bad to keep ECT on all the time?
@@dgrimey3744 no. it resets to normal mode after turning the engine off each time
Isn't the throttle response the reason for throttle module. I say this because the ect revs higher but the peddle response still lags
@@jamesp2395 the throttle map is curved, not linear. I’ve adjusted to it. Yes, if I ever go back to a vehicle with a linear throttle map, I’ll probably burn the tires off for the first 6 months 🤣. We just have to push the gas pedal more. When my TRD O/R gets to 4000 revs it’s like somebody mashed a nitrous button.
"19" TRD Offroad here. Just had the OV tune installed, felt a different IMMEDIATELY! shifts are great & gained 3MPG with 33" Geolandars & 4:88 gears.
How much did it cost you?
@@frankwest9304
Its been a while, around $200-250. Definitely worth it.
@@CD-hc5ds ive been hearing about the OV tune, how or where do you get it done at?
It was a couple hundred bucks.
You'll have to do a little research & find someone thats doing it in your area. Definitely worth the effort, they now have the KDMAX tune, not sure which would be better.
Just got me a 2017 SR5 Taco and found you on TH-cam for upgrades and mods. Great price on Husky floor mats so placed my order last night, thinking I got the rights ones for my auto-trans V6. This morning your customer service pro, Alex, texted me to ask and confirm I wanted the ones for the manual transmission, OOOPS! Alex sent me the links to the Husky's I really need. Alex cancelled my order and sent me the refund confirmation, new order placed and a headache for me was avoided. Can't say thank you enough, PdD in customer service, a pro's pro! Highly, HIGHLY recommend, looking forward to future business and videos from y'all. Mega-props and thanks from a newbie Taco truck owner, CHEERS!!!
Our pleasure Brian, thanks for the amazing feedback!
After 2 months I finally found it. ‘19 off-road 4x4 6 speed manual. First Tacoma and lovin it. Thanks for the info 🤘🏼
Congrats!! And you're welcome. We'd love to get you hooked up with any mods you have planned, so don't hesitate to reach us on live chat at www.motoroso.com, or toll free at 833.MOTOROSO.
Wish I was more confident driving a manual... This is definitely the best spec of the tacoma.
Just got my 22 Off-road Manual..took 6months from order. I absolutely love it.
Just picked up the ‘22 Tacoma SR5 4x2 v6 really really enjoying it so much! 🔥🔥
Same but a 4 banger. Love it added American Racing Baja and 265 70 17 Venom XT, 2 inch leveling and slow but looks amazing.
PSA:
3rd Gen Tacoma already has a cold air intake, save money, buy a K&N filter.
Wheel back spacing will be the same for TRD Off Road, Sport, and Pro (unsure about SR) on the truck; only the factory wheels are different.
The first mod anyone should buy for off roading should be rock sliders.
Buy a AFE! They’re incredible.
I've had my 17 TRD Sport for a year now. Not sure if anyone else has a manual transmission but I don't have the problem with the power. I can get on it!!!
Just bought a 2022 TRD off-road MT. No issues with power.
It would be cool if there was an array of mods that would optimize the Tacoma as a work truck. All the mods I find are more geared toward off road (I get that's a bigger market).
After adding all that weight to your truck, and this is before you add all your gear, you will probably want to look at swapping differential gears as well. that will definitely improve performance from 0-60 and at highway speeds.
Gearing is a must after Lift and tires anyways! Great advice...!
I have the pedal commander on City -2 each mode can be set from -4 to +4 in Eco, City, Sport, and sport plus. Best part you can add to the slug that the Tacoma is. I would tell everyone that it should be the first mod to buy for a Tacoma if you want to enjoying driving your truck
I’m running City +2, and I love it.
Holy shitballs, within the first minute, named my #1 main complaint of the Tacoma. I'm not alone in the world
You are not alone sir 🤗
My 2021 came with a power adjustable driver’s seat. Fixed every problem the seats had. Power Up, down, forward, backward, lumbar, and thigh support.
@@gerardthai6467 take it your under 5' 5
@@kidamere2408 i'm 5'5".
How sweet would the Tacoma be with a v8. It’s literally the perfect truck IMO, just needs that extra umph and we’d be in heaven 😁
1st mod, led interior light bulbs. 20 bucks on ebay.
Yeah, this list is the Insecure Toxic Masculinity Package for mall crawlers. They apparently don't sell Quality of Life stuff.
LED install was my first mod as well. Now I have interior lights like the standard LED interior light in my wife's base model Ford Escape.
@@chooseymomschoose So, basically if someone's truck looks better than your's they are exhibiting "toxic masculinity" -- whatever that means.
@@quinton01 exactly lol. If you don’t keep your truck stock you’re just insecure. Definitely get $20 lights before making your truck enjoyable to look at
@@chooseymomschoose what are you even talking about
Finally a Toyota Tacoma 2021 TRD pro owner. Tryna make this baby crazy
Awesome, congrats, that’s a badass start! What’s first? Lets get you set up!
@@Motoroso already have my mbrp exhaust and installed it already so now a cool air intake would be sick
@@brandonpatino7385 Just installed a K&N cold air intake on my 2019 Trd Pro. Love the sound on it. Spent about $260 plus tax from K&N through Amazon. I'll have to look into that exhaust.
I just bought a black 4x4 2017!!! I’m really excited I’m picking her up tomorrow. Get them now because these things are selling about 2-3k above sticker price right now. You have all been warned these things are going to be dreams years from now. A lot of people will regret not having one
You should include getting rid of the stock skid plate up front. There’s multiple options that include a door for the oil filter to be removed without dropping the whole skid plate. More durable and more access…can’t beat that for under $300
The factory skid plate is paper-thin. It might protect from flying pebles and small obstacles, but nothing significant.
1-st and only mod necessary after getting the correct transmission (Manual 6-speed) MAGNUSON SUPERCHARGER!!!!! Absolutely wicked Performance!!!! Life is short, dont be that guy on his death bed wishing he would have SuperCharged his Toyota back in the day!!!!! I did both my 2016- 4RUNNER/Tacoma Off Road !!! Both are just NASTY FAST!!!!!! Live Life my fellow Toyota Owners!!!! Magnuson deserves a huge Thank You 🙏
AMEN BROTHER! We sell Magnuson blowers! Anyone looking for this, hit us up at www.motoroso.com or call us toll free at 1.833.MOTOROSO (833.668.6767) and we'll get you a great deal... they retail for over $6500, but we can beat that all day long :-)
How is the supercharger holding up?
Just bought a 2017 and this is gonna be my little hobby to mod my truck on the side :)
Just bought a 2019 Tacoma Sport ohh I love it!!! Best truck yet!!
I wanna see. Whats your gram?
My 1st mod on my '20 trd offroad was k&n chrome tube cold air intake. I don't know about any performance gains but when you get the throttle to between 3000 and 5000rpms it sounds wicked almost like a trophy truck. It's badass 😎
Hell yeah, pair that with an exhaust and the V6's on these Tacomas sound pretty damn good!
You got a parts number for that intake brother?
@@XBadluckchuckX which one? We mentioned a few. Also, what year is your Tacoma? The ‘21 had some minor changes to the AC lines that prevent the box style intakes from fitting.
@@Motoroso Nooo the chrome K&N intake Mike is referring to. I’m thinking it’s a 77-9039KP but I’m not 100%. And mines a 2018 TRD Off-Road, so I’m all good.
Too noisy.
What a great video! Just decided on a Tacoma for an overlanding rig, I was getting lost a bit in what was important and what wasn't! Your website is a great place to find what I want too!
by the time i do all these modifications, I just paid for another Tacoma....
That’s the taco lifestyle 🤙🏼
It's like Anakin becoming Darth Vader
i have two kids and selling my modified jeep wrangler for my second tacoma. story of my life.
One thing I wished you guys would of touched on when it comes to lifts is the gear ratio and lack of power it may cause from a lift as well as drive shaft spacers or leaf spring shims which are almost a must when lifting the Tacoma. I wish it was as simple as throwing a 6” lift on it and going. Also on the bumpers you guys suggested it would more than likely involve cutting the body to do so. I have lifted around 7 Tacoma’s and on almost all of the lifts have to be done just right.
Absolutely right my friend, wish we had included the re-gearing mod as well! Luckily, the community has come to the rescue, and hopefully people will read the comments :-) Thanks for your contribution!
@@Motoroso That is the great thing about Tacoma owners we all come together if you reach out in the right places and help out! Other than those recommendations you guys covered some great stuff!
With a manual transmission you can eliminate the first two mods with just an intake/exhaust. They have better gears from the factory and the intake helps wake up throttle response a little bit
I'm gutted I didn't get a 6MT. The auto box is truly dreadful but I'll live with it until it's time to change. Apart from that the truck is great.
@@nigelpepper881 Just bought my 16 Tacoma MT today. I made the mistake with the last truck of not waiting for an MT. Won't make that mistake again!
yeah, my 2022 is automatic and everytime I drive it the transmission is fighting me. A manual would have fixed everything.
Just got a 19 Tacoma TRDsport 4x4. Dreams do come true!!
Congratulations Joel!
This video is the ultimate in 3rd gen mods from the 10 or so videos that I have seen. thanks for getting to the nit and grit and what matters in terms of mods
Glad you found it helpful! Let us know when you're ready for mods!
Looove my SR5! Just got mine too!! Was looking how to take care of it and upgrade it and found this channel! Thanks for the tips and tricks!
Our pleasure, glad you liked the video! Please let us know if we can help with any of your parts and accessories!
Right before doing a long term review video of my 2018 TRD OffRoad in silver, the dealer offered me a 2021 in Red and with more options. I wasn’t sure about it, but then they offered to give ME a check to do the deal...couldn’t pass it up.
Just bought my first Tacoma last weekend! Pre-owned 2019 off road 4x4! I can’t wait to add a bunch of these mods!
Congrats Carolynn!!! You’re gonna love it. We’d love to earn your business on the parts, please don’t hesitate to contact us toll free at 833.668.6767 (833.MOTOROSO) or via email at support@motoroso.com, or live chat at www.Motoroso.com
Love Tacoma’s and I’ve had 5 total. 2010, 2012 (stolen), 2015, 2019, and now 2021. But my ‘19 4x4 v6 off road 4-door had a fuel delivery issue at highway speed. I found out last Thursday that there’s a safety recall with no remedy yet that was related to the issue I was having. I traded it in for a ‘21.
@@gerardthai6467 hey! Thanks so much! Luckily I knew of this and the issue was fixed before I purchased it. :)
I live in colorado and Armor is essential here for narrow rocky trails. Skids and sliders for sure and maybe bumpers if you feel like going crazy. Upgrade tires, 235/85/16 = 32inch no rubbing. 255\85/16=33 inch no rubbing. Ovtune is amazing. No need for cai. H11 to h9 halogen headlight mod ~$15 for almost twice the light.
Just ordered my 2021 Tacoma TRD Sport in the army green. Can't wait for it to arrive.
Whoooot! Congrats David! Here to help with mods when you're ready!
The truck comes from the factory with a cold air intake.. it pulls from the passenger wheel well.. just get the K&N if you're looking for that lol it'll be a lot cheaper. Snorkel I recommend dobinson 4x4 mine was 300 bucks.
Did the k&n make a difference
Negative. The cold air intake replaces all the piping from filter to throttle body. Stock plastic has massive resonators, and the intake eliminates all of that and also eliminates turbulent airflow.
So I just bought a 21 Tacoma off road 4x4 access cab. My previous Tacoma was a ‘10, then a ‘15, then a ‘19, now this one. I’ve always had to have a seat pad to address the seating position and in my ‘19, i jacked the rear of the seat with a 2” steel square tube and seat jackers for the front. The power seat in the ‘21 fixed the seating position issue 100%. I also want to put a lift on it and after going to the motoroso site, I was unable to find the mentioned Skyjacker kit.
Congrats on the new Tacoma Gerard! We can order the Skyjacker Lift kit, it's a special order item and we don't have a listing on our website currently. If interested in a price quote and shipping time estimate, please reach out to us at support@motoroso.com, or call toll free at 1.833.MOTOROSO!
A towing package definitely helps
I installed a k & n drop in filter and it improved throttle response. This engine air starved especially at lower RPM. The Atkinson cycle engine shortens the intake cycle at lower speeds. Any intake improvement will help. A TRD intake accelerator And k & n intake tube may help as well. These mods are considerably cheaper than a cold air intake. The stock air box is a cold air intake. These mods will open the intake and eliminate the air resonance box. I like the Borla cat back system
100% Getting more air into the system, always better! CAI systems are nice, but just the filter helps for sure, the K&N Filter for the V6 can be bought here: www.motoroso.com/p/45270-kn-replacement-panel-air-filter-for-toyota-2014-tundra-46l57l-2014-sequoia-57l-v8?lid=1731392
And we agree, Borla systems are top notch... here's a link for the S-type cat-back system with the black tip: www.motoroso.com/p/474384-borla-16-18-toyota-tacoma-35l-at-4dr-cc-short-bed-s-type-ss-catback-exhaust-black-chrome-tip?lid=1692186
I have a 2019 Trd 4x4 sport. I love my Tacoma. Best investment I have made.
Investments usually gain value over time.
Great video!! I just added the Rough Country 6 inch suspension Vertex coil over lift and 35's on my 2018 TRD Sport. What a difference the stance has, especially up here in Fairbanks Alaska where stock trucks are gobbled up in the snow and/or muskeg.
After the 6 inch lift, did u need to d any trimming to run 35’s? Or a cab mount chop?
Just installed rock sliders by Tyger on my 2019 rock solid!
5:23, please don't suggest 20" wheels. You should not encourage those types of people to be driving Tacomas. Save that for for GM, Chrysler and Dodge products.
Haha 😂 Agreed!
Very nice to see the endless mods for the 3rd Gen Tacoma. I am looking to purchase a 2023 TRD Sport or the off road model in the next two weeks. Thanks for sharing.
I'm pretty sure dealer mechanics doing warranty work can still track aftermarket ecu/flashes even if you flash back to stock tune. Just fyi.
Yeah they dont know how it was changed, but it does tell them how many times it was remapped.
Dude thanks so much for breaking it down like this for us. Liked and subscribed as a result.
You’re welcome. Welcome to the fam!
Awesome video man, just bought a 2021, SR5 4x4 and ordered wheels, tires and leveling kit. I get it tomorrow :)
Hey Chase, good stuff man, congrats.... would've been cooler if you ordered them from us 🤔 Maybe next time.
@@Motoroso as an new Tacoma owner, I will definitely check you guys out. TH-cam did me good recommending your Channel on my timeline
@@chasingtheLord96 We appreciate that! Glad you found it helpful!
sent this to the wife with comment, Xmas list :) lol great video thanks just got a 4x4 off road, this will help
Sneeky Raid awesome! Thank you. Let her know we’re here to help toll free at 1.833.MOTOROSO
Subbed. Put my deposit yesterday on a '21, army green with anti-theft device. Looking for mods in the future
Awesome James, congrats on the new truck, you're gonna love it! Great color choice too. We'd love to get you set up with your mods, please keep us in mind, and don't hesitate to email us at support@motoroso.com, or call us toll free 1.833.MOTOROSO whenever we can help!
The 2023 Tacoma is going to be sick!
Love my 2019 Tacoma 4×4 V6 off road
Thanks for making the vid. Lots of good information. Wish you could show some more examples of these mods on the truck, not just the equipment but an actual pic of what it looks like on the vehicle.
I 100% need to get the custom tune mapping. I live in a mountainous area and the shifting points do the opposite of what you want. downshifts two gears and redlines just for a tiny bit of accelration. Then will shift to a lower gear way before it ever gets into powerband, so you apply for gas and it downshifts again TWO gears to redline. What in the HELL were they thinking? My 2000 F-150 V6 manual is a dream to drive in comparision, which is extremely depressing.
Great Video.
Totally agree!
You Tube is a POS platform anymore.
They put so many interruptions it ruins everything.
Driving skill is the number mod. One should keep learning and keep practicing to up their skill level especially going out wheeling.
Bro shut the hell up big ass nerd
Just brought a 20 TRD Sport 2WD lol why am I already looking forward to modding 🤦🏾♂️
First mod should be trading it in for a 4wd
@@GerardoMandujanobastida some of us can’t afford the 4wd
@@edgarchapa7266 my apologies
@@GerardoMandujanobastida some people live in areas that 4x4 isn’t that necessary. TX, AZ 4x4 is rarely needed
@@joebrito2066 you dont need it until you do
Funny, a Mod company telling you what mods you “need”. Oh yah they can sell you that! Perfect!!
If you want "10 ply" tires that won't leave you changing a tire on logging roads, the leveling kit is requisite. It's not vanity and it hardly changes the profile anyway. If you're an adult who wants to look like a 17 year old and doesn't care about road handling, get a lift. You're BA.
What about re-gearing the Tacoma for better performance? Isn't it a better option than the throttle modules?
Hey Ozzie, well "better" is definitely debatable, but here's a couple things to consider: The throttle module is a
Ozzie, you’re correct. I switched to 4.88’s, wish I would have gone 5.29’s though. It holds top gear on the hwy much better. Gears would be first on my list even w/o bigger tires. I don’t have a single complaint about swapping. Warranty is out at 36k anyway. That’s 1.5-2 years for most people. It’s a mute point.
@@nj_tacoma6723 how much was a re-gear? I got 110k on the clock so f&@k a warranty
I bought a 2016 4x4 limited and love it
Just bought a 2021 TRD Off-road, I need some mods ASAP!!
Congrats! We got you covered! What’s first?
@@Motoroso I’m thinking the pedal commander might be first. Thoughts?
@@99OllllllOWJ it’s one of the most popular first mods for ‘20 and ‘21 owners cause it doesn’t affect your warranty and wakes up the motor in an immediately noticeable way! Only a 5 minute install, no brainer. Grab it here: www.motoroso.com/p/667953-pedal-commander-lexusmitsubishisuzukitoyota-throttle-controller
@@Motoroso Awesome! I ordered it! Cant wait! Thanks again!!!!!!!
Great video, super well done!
Thank you sir, deeply appreciated!
The throttle responses/transmission hunting/and differental issues were recalled and can be fixed for free. ..btw
You have a link ?
@@ethancritchfield a link to? Get your vin and call the dealership. There is also an online page for toyota recalls. Just punch in the vin.
@@yourejustintim yes indeed. They do have a tsb already in place. No charge!
You definitely got my subscription with this video!
Awesome, great to have you! Glad you found it helpful. Let us know if we can help with any mods.
Dynamic tests have shown "cold air intakes" often provide no boost in power and often result in less power. Everything is computerized and tuned for factory equipment. Some systems on some vehicles provide a few more horse power.
Add a Driver side grab handle helps alot when getting in and out.
Hey this is Anthony with revzilla tv where you can watch decide and ride
Hahaha! Close, just a liiiiiiittle less cocaine! 😳😳
hey, thx for posting this. my Taco is due for some parts love.
You're welcome Rick, glad it was helpful! We love giving parts love, so please let us know how we can help you get set up! We can be reached on live chat at motoroso.com, or toll free at 833.668.6767 (833.MOTOROSO).
I have 31.65-inch tires (265/75R16) on my Tacoma without leveling kit and NO issues... Not even close to rubbing anywhere.
Quality Video
Mods are half the fun
I would also include a onboard air setup
the ect button makes the beast come out in my taco
Good video, appreciate all the ideas. Thanks!
Glad you liked it, let us know how we can help! We've got the Pedal Commanders in STOCK, they sold out several times in 2021, but we have a few on hand right now! www.motoroso.com/p/667953-pedal-commander-lexusmitsubishisuzukitoyota-throttle-controller?lid=1698031
Wouldn’t the leveling kit throw off the TSS calibration?
Good Question Paul. We don't think it will. The TSS (Toyota Safety Sense) is an integrated camera and radar system that should function just fine as long as it's still pointed forward. www.toyota.com/safety-sense/animation/ahb. Also, Toyota is well aware the popularity of aftermarket modifications, especially with the Tacoma, so I imagine they will have designed the system to accommodate such changes. And lastly, if someone were to load enough weight into the bed of the truck, it would cause a change in the angle of the front-end, again, I believe Toyota will have designed TSS with these eventualities in mind.
It is possible. The sensor comes from the factory calibrated at a certain height. By adding a leveling kit, you're changing the height and that can cause the sensor to read incorrectly.
carlos martinez if that’s correct then adding load the bed of the truck, carrying 4 full size adults in the cab, or changing tires sizes would all have an affect on the ride height of the vehicle. I’d expect the system has been developed to operate within a range. Additionally, the objects it’s designed to be sensing will be at a significant enough distance that 2” of vertical height would be unlikely to have any tangible effect on accuracy/performance. If someone finds anything that explicitly states the system must be recalibrated anytime the ride height of the vehicle is changed more than 1”, we’d like to know that.
carlos martinez my 2019 tacoma is lifted 6in and the tss works just fine
I changed the position of my TSS when I swapped grill inserts. Still works fine. You can add some washers to the bolts if you need to reorient it slightly.
Let's make this COMMERCIAL BETTER! Next time please show products before/after shots and larger product pictures. The host is great but I would rather see a bigger picture of the products installed. I also had to sit through FOUR yt commercials. Not worth it!
I pick up my 2021 cement color today. This video came just in time in my recommendations. Seat covers would be a good thing to add. Kryptek looks good. Keeps those seats perfect underneath haha.
Congrats on the new truck "grunt"! Great color choice. Let us know if we can help with any of your mods, including those seat covers.
Clazzio seat covers are also very nice. I’d recommend.
surprised step sides or rock sliders were not on this list.
I own a 2017 toyota tacoma trd sport dbl cab long bed.
So far ive modded it with the following:
K&N 63 series high-flow intake
Tri fold tonneau cover
Avs bug deflectors
Genesis offroad dual battery kit with 2 oddyssey batteries
A 1000k watt inverter
And inside and outside led light bulbs that i got off amazon.
Wanted to know what was your take on superchargers? I herd they stopped for 3rd gen but on another forum i think i herd that another company builds superchargers for 3rd gen. Any thoughts?
Also the exhausts are single, would you recommend single or dual? Was thinking as this upgrade as my next project for my truck
Hi Luis, sounds like a great build so far! Yes, Magnuson makes an awesome supercharger kit for the 3.5L Tacomas. It runs about $6500, and it takes your power to 380 at the crank, which is over 300 at the wheels! We sell these kits, as well as the exhaust systems, and we'd love to get you set up. If you're going to supercharge, I think the dual exhaust makes a lot of sense! We can help find the right system for this. Please don't hesitate to call us toll free at 1.833.MOTOROSO (833.668.6767) or email us at support@motoroso.com
I just got my 2016. with the 2.7L. with five speed. I need some rumble in the jungle. definitely glad for the 5 speed. :-)
Hey Brian, congrats on the truck! Let us know if we can help with any of those mods!
Looking to mod out my 2016 thanks for the great info
You're welcome Dennis, and we'd love to earn your business! A lot of the items we discussed are temporarily out of stock, but if you want help finding options and getting ETA's, would be happy to help. Please feel free to live chat at www.motoroso.com, or call us toll free at 1.833.MOTOROSO, or reach us at support@motoroso.com.
Girlfriend is buying a 2017 4cylinder with a 5speed manual tranny. She is excited... I drive a dodge challenger so when I got behind the wheel it felt like a power wheels with a dead battery to me. Would an ecm tune really do much for a 4 banger? Or just ruin the fuel economy?
Not sure, haven't done much with the 4cyl. We know the pedal commanders are an easy install and make the truck way more responsive... www.motoroso.com/p/667953-pedal-commander-pc38-throttle-controller-for-toyota-tacoma-fj-cruiser?lid=1698031
About to grab a 2022 TRD Off-Road. Is this throttle mod compatible with the 2022?
Hey Aaron, yes both of them are compatible. They are currently backordered due to their popularity! The Pedal Commander is a bit more popular, and coming back in stock sooner. If you order it now they're going to ship 12/1/21... here's a link: www.motoroso.com/p/667953-pedal-commander-lexusmitsubishisuzukitoyota-throttle-controller?lid=1698031
What LED lights for a 2022 Tacoma TRD Off Road? Thanks!
I have a mercedes sprinter I converted myself.... but something is pulling me towards changing for a tacoma trd pro and getting the overland set up! Any advice? Upsides down sides... I have a wife and a two year old... which should mean the vans easier? I don't know the pull is strong
Well that pull is understandable, these trucks are GREAT! It's a different thing from the van, with some pros/cons. First, in your van you can probably stand up, and have a bit more interior space. But on a Tacoma you will get a LOT more offroad performance and the ability to confidently and quickly get to more remote areas. The best way to set up for overlanding is to go with an overlanding bed rack system with modular sliders to store all your gear and tools, can even install a 12v refrigerator. On top you can get a roof mounted tent and awning to sleep the whole family! There's a lot to talk about here, so one of the best ways to advance the conversation would be to give us a call at 1.833.MOTOROSO, or email us at support@motoroso.com!
@@Motoroso thank you! I will be in contact soon! Greetings from Switzerland 🇨🇭
A little late but TRD just came out with a leveling kit that's decent, installed a couple at work already. Idk the price tho.
and the reduced Warranty to only a year and 12,000 miles. But all the TSS stuff will be working properly. I do like the bigger Bilsteins part. I'm skipping exhaust and getting the dealer installed kit.
could you give me a clue about the labor hours cost?
KD Max has a tune, I have it on my 2018 Tacoma
Did you dyno the cat-back systems?
He talks about improving off road performance, but never mentions lockers or limited slip diffs.
Tbh the way my truck (6mt) is geared, I don’t feel the need for a throttle module! It’s not fast but also not slow..
New subscriber here, just order my 2022 SR5, chip shortage so out of stock 🤨 wow what we have come to !
Yeah, tough to get at the moment, hope the wait isn’t too long!
I loved this car, is that a good idea to get this as a first car? I live in a city of Seattle?
Yeah man, can’t go wrong!
I have a 2021 Tacoma so I wonder if you know if adding this product would void or affect the warranty In any way?
Hey Ed, depends which product you’re talking about specifically?? Happy to answer your questions specifically, please drop us an email at support@motoroso.com, or reply here and we can clarify.
@@Motoroso just bought a 21 Tacoma 2 days ago! Wondering the same thing with the intake and exhaust as well as an ecu flash
possibly the throttle mod as well
@@anthonyb6521 the ECU flash definitely has warranty implications, toyota can/will know and then it comes down to whether your dealer service center is "cool" about it or not. The pedal commander is popular because it has no warranty implications. Intake and exhaust are so common, most service centers would not care about it in relation to warranty work, so you should be good there. Let us know if we can help with any specific parts!
The only thing a Tacoma “needs” is OVTune. The factory tune is garbage for power delivery, efficiency, and drivability... can’t be remedied with a simple pedal control module.
Also, dyno these cold air intakes and see that they don’t actually do anything on these trucks lol. Just some cool noise for $400
My pedal commander will sometimes cause malfunction reads on the dash, why is that? I'll have to unplug it from the pedal ports and let it reset and plug it in again?
I haven’t heard of that happening before. Could possibly be a bent pin in the plug? Or maybe not being seated fully and locked? I recommend calling pedal commanders support line to ask this question.
1st thing im going to do is install step sides to protect the truck from getting hit by a shopping cart or car door
get interior led lights too
Did he say "butt dyno?"
Are y'all getting the 4cylinder or v6?
I just dont know which one to get.
I hear the 4cylinder is build pretty good to last almost no problems but the v6 of course has the a lil more power but comes with problems.
What's your take on it???
We advise getting the 6cyl. The 4cyl is underpowered. The 6cyl is too, just not as bad. The throttle module helps open either of them up, without any effect on warranty, and re-gearing will help the truck feel better as well.
You missed the best of them all the S&b air filter.....
You’re right, that’s another good one!!
AFE has a RAM air intake extension for their Momentum cold air intake system.
I have a 2020 Tacoma. I went to your site and most things are either sold out or don’t fit a 2020. What’s up with that?
Hey Gabriel, that’s probably because the fitment data associated with the products haven’t been brought up to date for the 2020 applications yet. All of our data comes from our sellers and there’s over 1M products, so it’s tough to keep up with. There’s 1,000s of products for the 3rd gen Tacoma, and we have most of them, so feel free to hit us on live chat or at 1.833.MOTOROSO, and you can put in a 2017 Tacoma and get most of the same products. We’re always happy to help confirm it will work for your 2020.
Overland tune….. took less than an hour
Totally different truck
Went through the dealer so no problem with warranty
Hi Great video. I do have a question. What's the biggest tire and wheel combo I can Install on 2016 Tacoma TRD I can install with out any doing any modifications?
At stock ride height you’re not going to get much bigger than stock if you plan to off-road it and want bigger tires you gotta go with a full lift kit to fit those 31 and over sizes
Hey Cruz, in our experience you can bump up to a 265/70/17 (which is a 31.6" tire) without rubbing on a stock Tacoma. But, with a simple 2.5 - 3.0" leveling kit or a 3" lift kit, you can bump up to a 285/70/17, which is 32.7". Feel free to hit us up at 833.MOTOROSO or live chat on motoroso.com for help getting wheels and tires :-)