DeWALT 30 Gallon Air Compressor Discussion, Break-In, and Initial Modifications.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Finally, a new air compressor in the shop. Our new victim is a DeWALT DXCM301 (AKA DXCMLA1683066), 30 gallon, 155 PSI, 1.6 HP, portable air compressor.
The purpose of today's video is to discuss a bit about why I bought this model, breaking it in, and adding an hour meter so we can keep track of maintenance intervals a little more closely.
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Black wire isn't the neutral
Yep... Looks like I got it backward. I just cannot beat 30 years of 12 volt wire colors out of my head.
I pinned your comment, but I don't think it's going to matter much for what I've going on.
This gnawed on me, so I fixed it and made an update video. Thanks for bringing it to my attention,.
Link: th-cam.com/video/XfKq4hPrGbA/w-d-xo.html
depends on how you use it
Congrats, nice unit and review, well bought!
Thanks!
I just lucked up on the DXCM303 (30gal 6 scfm 175psi) with a bent wheel bracket at Tractor Supply for $400. Got it home and straightened it out with Percy and couldn't be happier.
You did, indeed, get lucky. I haven't seen them cheaper than about $550 in the last 2 years. Well done!
is there a difference between this 301 and the 303?
@@Wutsparks303 has higher scfm.
@@Jp75402 gotcha, appreciate the information
Funny I had the same problem with my filter thought it was just me
I'm still not sure what I was doing wrong. 😆
That was a great demo, Sir.
I run a similar at work, hooked up to a nitrogen generator due to lack of enough "building air pressure." But it's a a lot of demand for the compressor. Could you makes video on how to conduct maintenance on it (changing oil and draining)?
I can't find a manual online
Thanks!
I do intend to make a maintenance video. I just don't quite have enough hours on it yet to justify it.
New and shiny. I thought you had given up on the channel.
Nothing like new tool day!
I had intended to take a few weeks off at Christmas, but once I lost momentum it just sort of became a few months instead. I should be back to regular content shortly.
last year the 60 gal 601 model was selling for $449. at tractor supply it 849 today
Yessir... I've looked up a few things I bought last year and found the prices have nearly doubled since then. It's wild...
TSC is asking $699 for this compressor today. 😳
Right now the 60 gal is on sale.for 749 and this one is 699
I have one of those. It is NOT quiet in my mind. I haven't timed mine for 0 to 150 psi but I find 8 minutes way too much time. The tank is way to big for the little 1.6 hp pump. Mine is right next to my work area and the noise and running so often drives nuts.
I think the only way to get quieter from here are maybe the California Air Tools compressors. The CAT-20020CR appears to be their most similar model. It's not cheap though.
Jesse we need to compress
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Thanks for watching! 👍
Nice video
Thanks! 👍
nice video there thats just like my PORTER-CABLE laydown air compressor but i would like to know after you get time on yours if it will pop a 15amp braker like my did i had to put it on a 20 amp braker then got made cuz i needed my 20 amp back and set it up for 220volts and never had any problems with it
Thanks!
My Dad has the identical Porter-Cable horizontal, but I think it's a 20 gallon? He's also been happy with his, but I wanted the smaller footprint on the floor by going vertical and I'll always take more tank capacity.
The _only_ circuit in the garage here is a single 20A, so I'm good there. I did just plug the Kill-o-watt into it and it registered 17.9A.
Just for kicks I checked the old HFT compressor too and it registered 16A. There's probably not too many compressors that would be suitable for automotive work that would tolerate a 15A circuit.
@@TheBrokenLife ok cool and thanks now I will better now cuz if your is that high and my is then its just something to work with thanks again
@@CantKillMe No problem. Glad I could help you out.
The belt size is usually on the belt.
It wasn't.
Cool video!
So I got mine today and it only pumps to main tank 70psi and turns off.
What could that be ?
Thanks!
Could be a lot of things. If you just got it, I'd recommend returning it.
which solberg filter is that?
I just added a link to it in the description, but of course it's currently out of stock.
Did it quiet it down with the filter?@@TheBrokenLife
@@AdamGeorgeLL Not that I noticed.
It did not run very hot because it was not compressing, it was open to atmosphere. Once you put it under pressure it’s gonna get really hot.
That's fair, but I was more concerned about the heat generated by everything breaking in.
Black compressor may be a harbor freight 21 gallon tank. Good for the size. Weak reed valves. We had ok luck with this model. Other h.p. not so much. I have cut new .014 stainless steel replacement reed valves.
It is, indeed, a 21 gallon HFT compressor. Mine keeps popping head gaskets and has been retired. For what it's worth, you can buy new valves for them.
I have a thought about the head gasket (theory).I believe the clearances are to tight (I will explain).The company other HP I drained the oil and serviced with Tranny fluid. If you removed one or both of the compression rings would it still build pressure with a new head gasket or hone the jug and reinstall the same parts. On a model like yours I put in 2380 Turbine oil as a test and it worked as advertised.
@@ritchiesokol1061 I agree that maybe it could be brought back into service with some experimentation, but it was fine out of the box for something like 15 years and then blew 3 head gaskets back-to-back-to-back. If nothing else, tank rust is a good reason for that one to stay retired... plus it appears I have another, different, better, broken one to take its place on the repair agenda. 😂
I think the old HFT is going to the big soup can factory in the sky.
Hi, how do I know if my Dewalt is dead finally? It's very similar to your new compressor, maybe over 10 years old tho. It still turns on, but no air is coming out of the hose and the tank pressure is just sitting on 50... no increase. I really don't see or hear any leaks. Thank you
It could be a lot of things, but the only issues really worth worrying about fixing would be failed head gaskets (quite likely) or a bad check valve on the tank (less likely, but possible). Those parts aren't very expensive or difficult to install.
Much more than that (pistons, rings, valves, etc) and it's just not worth repairing. One of the advantages of a belt-driven compressor is that you can just unbolt the entire compressor unit, pitch it, bolt a new one on, and put the belt back on. Harbor Freight sells what I'm 99% positive is the exact same compressor as is bolted on to my DeWalt tank for $150 (item #58494). If you can find a 20% off coupon, then it's extra not worth the time to mess with, IMO. The same is true of the motors. As long as the tank is in good shape, you can just bolt new "things" to the top of it forever and keep on truckin'.
Good luck with it! 👍
@@TheBrokenLife thank you, that's very helpful. I'll save this info and see what I come up with!
@@lyndsaymitchell9822 Good luck with it. I have a few videos of hoping a head gasket would repair one of my HFT compressors in the playlist if you're like to see what you could be getting into.
my pump on the exact make got a lil hot due to running to long(hole in hose), i dont THINK it did damage, there was a small oil burning smell(not bad).. obv hot.. anyway to know if damage was done
u OBV know a shitload bout this.. is there any basic things to check for damage?.. ty for ANY REPLY
Oil consumption would probably be the most obvious sign with longer compression times being another. Unless something is clearly wrong, I'd probably just change the oil and move on.
Also... I don't know if it was running that long unattended, but air compressors are _notorious_ for starting fires in exactly the situation you described. Try to remember to shut them off before you walk away.
@@TheBrokenLife my oil seems fine qnd is still qt the perfect middle mark.. ty VERY much
@@CalebColeKnows IMO, I'd change it due to the heat it endured.
@@TheBrokenLife will do, ty u very much
That big fitting on top says “Warning do no remove…..pressure” . What does the full warning say? I would guess it says “when under” but if it says to never remove it under any circumstances that would be different. I like your idea of a larger line.
Do you have a time stamp I can refer to?
@@TheBrokenLife 2:36. You were talking about how that fitting is removable, where the tank air outlet is.
@@mguerramd "WARNING DO NOT REMOVE UNDER PRESSURE".
It means what it says pretty literally. If there's pressure in the tank, don't remove that bung. That's pretty true for everything that is threaded into the tank, but that 2" slug coming at you with 30 gallons of 155psi air behind it would be plenty to kill you.
@@TheBrokenLife OK that's what I thought. The whole thing was not visible. As far as increasing the size of the pipe nipple coming out of that fitting, I noticed all the replacement 4 port pressure switches that attach to the nipple are 1/4". If there are pressure switches with larger orifices, I'm unaware of it. Now I'm curious.
@@mguerramd I will use the same pressure switch, but T off before it for a larger air supply line.
I just bought a new 108L compressor, 2hp head, 1.5hp motor but the pulley is 3 inches. Could you tell me how many inches the pulley on your motor is?
It's not practical for me to measure mine, but the parts list appears to indicate that it's 3.75".
@@TheBrokenLifeIs your pump pulley 10 inches? I think I'm going to increase the RPM since my pump supports 1200rpm but only gives 1035rpm with the 3-inch pulley that comes with a 3450rpm motor.
@@novavolks9652 I can't tell for sure. The part number for the pump side only refers to it as a flywheel without dimensions. I'm seeing similar compressor pumps being advertised as 1300 rpm max, with a suggested driver pulley diameter up to 3.85". Running that math backward, and recognizing these are all made in China, that comes back almost exactly to a 250mm driven pulley. In the case of my compressor, I'd bet the 3.75" driver is actually 90mm, which comes up to 1250rpm.
Is this 2 or single stage ?
Single stage, twin cylinder. I haven't seen many (any?) two stage 120v compressors.
So is this enough compressor to run a die grinder?
For lighter use, yes.
@@TheBrokenLife I’m just looking for something to knock rust off of old tools and spray paint on smaller projects. Nothing as big as a car or anything. I restore old tools as a hobby and pneumatic tools are totally new to me.
@@jacobaultman2629 In my opinion, that's pretty much the ideal use case for a compressor of this size.
Plus, you'll find yourself in the position I am in where going to anything bigger than this requires a much larger outlay in space, electricity, and cash. This is basically the top end of the bottom side. Going smaller really doesn't save you enough of any of those things to bother.
You've also reminded me that I do need to make a "basics" video. It's been on my mind for awhile...
I’m trying to figure out weather to go this route or run 240 into my garage also did you buy the hour meter separate
Your compressor would be much tougher if you changed the head for a 3hp head and a 2hp Weg motor with a 5-inch pulley.
The Weg electric motor must be at low RPM for the , with that 5 inch pulley it will make it rev fast with that modification your compressor will charge in 4 minutes
I'm not sure if I've ever seen replacement cylinder heads, with larger ports, for sale. I'd certainly be curious about them.
Likewise, I hadn't really considered over-driving the compressor. If everything were linear, 4 minutes would be about twice the RPM and I think that would be a bit much. I could see a 20% overdrive as being reasonable to try though.
The motor is 3450 RPM and is already as close to 2HP as I'm likely to get with a residential 120V outlet. It's rated as "SPL" on it's ID tag (and similar motors are sold as 2HP), but DeWalt advertises this compressor as 1.6HP, which is probably pretty close.
@@TheBrokenLife The problem with this compressor, like the Husky model, which are exactly the same, is that they sell it at a very high price for the few horsepower it has. I have worked with several models with the characteristics that I mentioned above, you definitely cannot use the same motor and the head would have to be 3hp, the motor at 120V voltage at 2hp at low RPM. The Weg brand is very good. The other components can be used since they can withstand 150 psi, a maximum of 120 psi is correct.
@@novavolks9652 Ehh... Really, these are priced fairly in accordance with their counterparts on the US market. The biggest problem with this general style of compressor is the 120V power. If you have 240 available, you can get a much higher output model for far lower prices in terms of $/hp. That said, in today's market, this particular DeWalt is probably about the most expensive 120V compressor available. I only paid $350 or so for mine, which was a fantastic deal.
Take the tank from your old compressor and connect to the new and you will have a larger volume of air Compressor should run less
I considered doing that, but he old tank is pretty rusty. Also, the DeWalt runs at 155psi vs. 125psi for the old guy. I just don't think it would be safe.
But can you paint a car with it.
I quite suspect so. I've seen guys do it with less.