The SHOCKING Unity Of Catholicism and Southern Heritage w/ Dr. Alan Harrelson
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Alan talks to Matt about how his Love of Southern History and Literature is meshing with his discovering of the Churches Tradition.
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Good to see us in the South represented by such a high quality man. Hopefully one day Dixie will be Catholic.
Allen Tate once said that was essentially the only thing the South was missing
*These words are not mine.* These are the words the Ruach HaKodesh (YAHUAH's Set-Apart Spirit) uttered through me when I prayed to YAHUAH; asking him what *he wants* me to say, knowing the truth. He with ears, hear:
"Know that YAHUAH is the name of the Most High and YAHUsha is the name of The Son.
Come out of her, my people, who have fallen to the deceit of Constantine. Who know not my name and say they love me. I have made myself known. I have heard you and I am here.
There are many who are yours to be saved. I am he who knows all that you are. Come to me, here are they who are mine. Make haste to come, here are we. Give in to them who speak of me, they are yours. I am here for you. Know that all is for them, here are we.
Give not to them that are against me. I am he who sees all you do. Come to me out of her, all are here for me. Do what I say. Out of her, come. All are here."
Exodus 3:13-15 KJV
13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
John 5:43 KJV
43 *I am come in my Father's name,* and ye receive me not: *if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.*
2 Corinthians 6:17 KJV
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and *touch not the unclean thing;* *and I will receive you.*
Isaiah 52:6-7 KJV
6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
2 Corinthians 6:1-2 KJV
1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)
Romans 10:1-3 KJV
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Romans 10:13-17 KJV
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 *How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?*
15 *And how shall they preach, except they be sent?* as it is written, *How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!*
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. *For Esaias saith,* Lord, *who hath believed our report?*
17 *So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.*
Nahum 1:7 KJV
7 The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and *he knoweth them that trust in him.*
Hebrews 3:15 KJV
15 *While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.*
Isaiah 52:11 KJV
11 *Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing;* go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the Lord.
John 14:15 KJV
15 *If ye love me, keep my commandments.*
@@bradleymarshall5489 Yes. Tate had said that the South was a medieval society without a medieval religion and that in order for the South to return to its roots it had to be Catholic so he converted.
I am from the South, and this is precisely what is attracting me to the Catholic Church.
Being raised in the South but coming out without a Southern accent, I am incredibly jealous of this guy!!
I'm jealous I don't have him as a friend dammit! I'm not white but I enjoy having people with accents. Always a good time man I need white friends :( or woman or both lol
I need more of this man’s voice in my life!!!
Hahahahaha I know women likes it :) yeah I need a female voice with a southern accent just as sexy but from the opposite sex to the opportunity sex
I'd love to sit and have a conversation over a glass of Bourbon with Alan. Being born and raised on a farm in the Midwest, and having lived in the South for a few years, I agree completely with his sentiments about the connection between the Catholic faith and our history. I also agree that much of our society is becoming too urbanized, and people are becoming to disassociated from the land and the past. I am raising my 12 kids to know and appreciate growing crops and animals, because too many people have forgotten how to do so.
Before I was drawn to the sacred tradition of the Catholic Church, I was drawn to the traditional American South. That seemed to be last region that still had some sense of the past.
Very true
I was good to hear Edmund Burke praised. In Britain he is, I fear, largely forgotten but he should be honoured and so should his great patron Lord Rockingham.
*These words are not mine.* These are the words the Ruach HaKodesh (YAHUAH's Set-Apart Spirit) uttered through me when I prayed to YAHUAH; asking him what *he wants* me to say, knowing the truth. Blessed are they who keep YAHUAH's word:
"Know that YAHUAH is the name of the Most High and YAHUsha is the name of The Son.
Come out of her, my people, who have fallen to the deceit of Constantine. Who know not my name and say they love me. I have made myself known. I have heard you and I am here.
There are many who are yours to be saved. I am he who knows all that you are. Come to me, here are they who are mine. Make haste to come, here are we. Give in to them who speak of me, they are yours. I am here for you. Know that all is for them, here are we.
Give not to them that are against me. I am he who sees all you do. Come to me out of her, all are here for me. Do what I say. Out of her, come. All are here."
Exodus 3:13-15 KJV
13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
John 5:43 KJV
43 *I am come in my Father's name,* and ye receive me not: *if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.*
2 Corinthians 6:17 KJV
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and *touch not the unclean thing;* *and I will receive you.*
Isaiah 52:6-7 KJV
6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
2 Corinthians 6:1-2 KJV
1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)
Romans 10:1-3 KJV
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Romans 10:13-17 KJV
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 *How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?*
15 *And how shall they preach, except they be sent?* as it is written, *How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!*
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. *For Esaias saith,* Lord, *who hath believed our report?*
17 *So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.*
Nahum 1:7 KJV
7 The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and *he knoweth them that trust in him.*
Hebrews 3:15 KJV
15 *While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.*
Isaiah 52:11 KJV
11 *Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing;* go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the Lord.
John 14:15 KJV
15 *If ye love me, keep my commandments.*
Oh my goodness his accent is amazing
Dr. Harrelson could do voiceovers and/or narration.
I grew up in probably the most Catholic city in the south- New Orleans. The St. Louis Cathedral, every school in New Orleans (almost) is Catholic and segregated by boys and girls. The Ursuline nuns founded the oldest Catholic girls school in the 1700s here, Jesuit High School founded in 1847, Loyola University, the Archdiocese of New Orleans, most people take off for Ash Wednesday than don’t, Parishes rather than counties, I could go on and on. New Orleans is incredibly distinct within the south as a very Catholic city and state from our founding. However, I grew up Baptist here and still can not understand Catholicism, but I’ve grown to appreciate it and I am still learning. I’m not sure if I will ever be Catholic but I can’t deny the good that Catholicism has done for the foundation of our state and education.
Man, if I'd known about his epic accent I would've watched the interview sooner.
You guys need to start totally exploiting your guests in the thumbnails lol
His voice sounds like bourbon, molasses, and extreme humidity on the front porch. I could listen to him read read the warranty for a washing machine and feel like it was worth the time.
As an alumni of the Fransican University of Steubenville, I loved that shoutout, Matt!
I’m a southerner who’s steadily moving towards Catholicism and away from a sort of Protestant non denominational Christianity. The south has always been sort of resistant to change in America, for better or for worse. We needed to change morally during the civil war and the civil rights movement, as we held onto flawed principles of superiority over something as trivial as skin color. We needed to move away from that. At the same time however, some of the things we hold onto are necessary for a healthy society, like Christianity and basic morality, which seem to be sorely lacking in other parts of the country. Catholicism has always stood as a moral tradition to hold on for people around the world, and I think that southerners are starting to realize that. Protestantism is too involved in culture to stand against it, always has been. Some of the changes of Protestantism were necessary, but nowadays Protestant churches are more and more subject to modernization in the worst ways. I believe that the south will need a shift to Catholicism if we are to culturally survive the modernist trends of todays society, especially in the US. I’m not a great writer, so idk if that makes any sense to other people or if I have appropriately expressed it, but it’s what I’ve realized in the last year or two.
We need more of Jesus and much less Christian denominations. God bless you! More sincere faith in Jesus.
Catholicism is not a denomination.
@@JesusisKing89-fs2kbThat is impossible because look up who found each church. One is with the other. You take away one you take away the other.
@@JesusisKing89-fs2kb yes, the largest united group of Christians is the problem. Not the ever-splintering Protestants.
@@Daytonabeach2022there is the Church and those who have broken away
True. It is a group of child sexual abusers and their supporters.@@Daytonabeach2022
This guy not wearing a Confederate general's uniform leading an army and drinking southern sweet tea makes my brain confused.
Bishop John England, First Bishop of Charleston, pray for us. Father Peter Whelan, the Angel of Andersonville, pray for us.
Amazing interview
That voice is so southern, I thought I saw penguins
You did. : )
And this is not spam.
I can promise anyone outside the South that yes, there are still people with accents this thick.
Just subscribed to The Pipe Cottage. Thank you Dr. Harrelson.
Russel Kirk's best work was on John Ranolph of Roanoke; not just the greatest Southerner but one of the greatest Americans to have ever lived
Many Southern scholars and historians have observed that the antebellum South was "a Medieval Society without a Medieval religion", as Allen Tate said. The Medieval religion that they are speaking of is Catholicism. And most people are not aware but Jefferson Davis exchanged several letters with Pope Pius IX. He had been educated at a Catholic school in middle school and one of his best friends was an Irish immigrant priest. That priest wrote to Pius IX and said that the South was a society ripe for conversion.
I think that General Jubal Early described the Southern view of utilitariansim perfectly. He said: "We do not, however, think it proper to run the ploughshare over the graves of our fathers in order to conform to the utilitarian spirit of this age; and we do believe that a people who forget or discard their traditions are unworthy and unfit to be free. We do not like the progressive spirit of this age because we are not certain from whence it comes nor whither it tends." In my opinion, the main difference of the South and the North leading up to the war was that. Slavery, tariffs, and all of those other issues were symptoms of the deeper difference which was one of utilitarianism vs agrariansim.
This guy has a golden voice
One of my favorite Catholics ever (albeit a fictional one) is Ellen O’Hara (Scarlett’s mother in Gone with the Wind) :)
wow, ....very crispy! -unpacking some well known truths.. more than ready for a dust-off and relaunch ..good find Matt-boom!
Excellent
Man, I feel like Matt has a confederate soldier on his show! Lol.
Oh my gosh I love his accent! It seems like it’s dying out around the major metro areas but this takes me back to childhood.
This is interesting because all of my Southern ancestors were staunchly Episcopalian and Church of England before 1789.
I would love to see my homeland, the South, become Catholic.
I didn’t know people still talked like this
Loved the video!
Could not agree more, and something I talk about at length... but from a perspective of the Traditional Trades. People often suggest that I'm just "low level shilling" because I'm a blacksmith looking for customers, but this is their attempt to kill the messenger so they don't have to hear the message. In short, we complain about the state of things today, but forget that the last 100 years have been nothing but constantly throwing out of everything that made the Western Nations great. People have failed to "Tend their Garden" and decided to listen to the snakes in the grass. I'm not asking for support for myself, but for the traditions that provided a livelihood for millions and actually created the very culture everyone looks back fondly on. When you do something that has a negative impact on something that seems rather trivial, like the European tradition of creating hedgerows, you're also negatively impacting all the things that rely on the hedgerows. Right now, there's something of a Renaissance in hedges in England but all the talk is about how they are great for wildlife and critical to "global warming", but folks ignore that the hedges once provided jobs for countless people - from the blacksmiths who made the tools, to the bodgers who made household goods for the local village. And those tradesmen then passed their skills on to their children. Culture, Heritage, Tradition... these are the things made manifest by the hands of the craftsmen. Whole libraries have been written about the material items left behind by past generations, and the subtle differences between items allows the experts to isolate a particular group or region. Nowadays, everything is mass-produced in some factory on the other side of the world not because it's better, but because people listened to those snakes in the grass and didn't Tend Their Garden. They voted for another tax, regulation, pay raise, etc. They didn't support their local culture because they were tricked into thinking something that was made in a factory in New York City was somehow better than what was made locally, by local craftsmen. That Sears&Roebuck company might have had lower prices, but at what cost? People complain that Walmart has driven out all the small businesses, but forget that it was them, the average person, who happily turned their back on the small businesses because Walmart promised to save them a dollar. It wasn't anything new because that was the same mindset that killed off a million small businesses in years past. History repeats, as they say.
This man is an interesting interviewee.
Wow! I wish there was a way to give 10 "thumbs up" !!!
do you guys think he still does the accent when nobody's listening
It is much more mild.
But the guy has been talking like this since at least 2014.
There are a lot of people in the rural south with accents this thick
*These words are not mine.* These are the words the Ruach HaKodesh (YAHUAH's Set-Apart Spirit) uttered through me when I prayed to YAHUAH; asking him what *he wants* me to say, knowing the truth. To they with ears:
"Know that YAHUAH is the name of the Most High and YAHUsha is the name of The Son.
Come out of her, my people, who have fallen to the deceit of Constantine. Who know not my name and say they love me. I have made myself known. I have heard you and I am here.
There are many who are yours to be saved. I am he who knows all that you are. Come to me, here are they who are mine. Make haste to come, here are we. Give in to them who speak of me, they are yours. I am here for you. Know that all is for them, here are we.
Give not to them that are against me. I am he who sees all you do. Come to me out of her, all are here for me. Do what I say. Out of her, come. All are here."
Exodus 3:13-15 KJV
13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.
15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
John 5:43 KJV
43 *I am come in my Father's name,* and ye receive me not: *if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.*
2 Corinthians 6:17 KJV
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and *touch not the unclean thing;* *and I will receive you.*
Isaiah 52:6-7 KJV
6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.
7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
2 Corinthians 6:1-2 KJV
1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.
2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)
Romans 10:1-3 KJV
1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Romans 10:13-17 KJV
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 *How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?*
15 *And how shall they preach, except they be sent?* as it is written, *How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!*
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. *For Esaias saith,* Lord, *who hath believed our report?*
17 *So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.*
Nahum 1:7 KJV
7 The Lord is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and *he knoweth them that trust in him.*
Hebrews 3:15 KJV
15 *While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.*
Isaiah 52:11 KJV
11 *Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing;* go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the Lord.
John 14:15 KJV
15 *If ye love me, keep my commandments.*
Enjoying my first bowl of tobacco
High Tory instincts , Cavalier.
Can see that he didn't read much about Catholicism, as he himself said, otherwise he would not be a Catholic.
There's at least two problems with his point. Firstly, what largely shaped the specific Southern culture with which he is referencing IS Protestantism. Ulster-Scots Presbyterians, Baptists, and German Lutherans. Catholicism shaped (wasn't the cause) Northern culture as it slowly separated itself from agrarian culture. The point being that the Southern values which he suggests are moving in the direction of Catholicism are actually rooted in Protestantism. He knows this, I'm sure, and chooses not to explain it away, instead he just doesn't address it.
Secondly, his arguments are directly from Richard Weaver, almost verbatim, and yet he doesn't mention him, unless I have missed that. Being a Southern scholar, there's no way he wouldn't be familiar with Weaver, and therefore it's suspicious that he would choose not to address Weavers conservatism.
Finally, related to the first point, Catholicism simply doesn't allow for the kind of independent spirit that shaped Southern agrarian life. He even mentions the notion that the Southern disposition is to resist external authority. That is a kind of Protestant outlook, that remembers how Germans and English were beholden to the papacy so many thousands of miles away. A Catholic South would have been much more amenable to Northern aggression because the Catholic heart of America is in the North.
All this to say, he's reaching awfully far to claim some coherence between these two historically divergent forces.
He would have a much easier time to appeal to the French and Spanish Catholic influence in the deep South, but that is really not the South he has in mind.
I agree that the independent mindset is somewhat at odds however the issue with authority is very different in the Deep South vs Appalachia. The Deep South is fine with authority that it recognizes (I.e people/power they know) but apprehensive of power external. Appalachia is apprehensive of any authority period. While I agree that all of his points don’t mesh the phenomena he describes is occurring. As a former Protestant in the Deep South most of my friends now are either Catholic, Orthodox, atheist, or in some sort of Pentecostal typed non-denominational goop anecdotal as that is.
There’s a significant representation in the south of historic Catholics. From the Spanish and French settlements to the Catholic Scots in Appalachia, there’s a nice sized representing down here that can be forgotten. In the North, you got Maryland for your catholic hold out. The NE is wasp land.
@@vinciblegaming6817 it’d be interesting to compare the time periods everyone is discussing. Until the massive move of the Irish and then later Eastern Europeans to the NE you’re certainly correct. The pre civil war NE was definitely majority Protestant as was most of America except for some “holdouts” like Maryland and Louisiana although I’m sure there were still Catholics in many areas 🤷🏼. I’m no expert.
I suggest that you read about the Right Reverend John England, the first Bishop of Charleston. He was a prolific writer, and his works were collected and are available. Then read up on Bishop Patrick N Lynch-the third Bishop of Charleston and the CSA envoy to the Vatican. Read Tate’s “The Catholic Lost Cause.” A Catholic community was founded in Georgia in 1793 in a place called Locust Grove, near present day Washington, GA. Savannah had-and still has-a thriving Catholic community of Irish descent. Read up on Father Peter Whelan, the Angel of Andersonville. Gleeson has written extensively on Catholics in the Antebellum South and during the Civil War.
There is Catholic influence in specific parts of the southeast. Cullman, AL for instance has had a Benedictine monastery founded by German monks in the mid 19th century, nearby is a community of Benedictine nuns and Mother Angelica's convent. You can really feel the Catholic influence in that area. There's also a strong Catholic influence further south around Mobile. Though much of the legacy is characterized by its relationship to the protestant majority.
Deo vindice
When the voice doesnt match the age and face
I’m confused. First of all, my grandpa died in 2001, so that pipe puffing with a southern drawl sent me back in time! Secondly, I just moved to the south and have yet to find a reverent novus ordo mass. Parishes are missing kneelers or tabernacles, and the music is more about me than God. No stained glass. It’s Protestant country down here, so the post-conciliar hippies really went all in about the stuff your channel normally complains about.
What state? I’m in arguably the least Catholic state and have the most reverent mass and gorgeous traditional basilica. They’re here, you just gotta find them
@@EmilyGardner-my7on That's cool. We're in Virginia. Even the cathedral got a post V2 renovation. I've been to 3 parishes, but will keep looking. Thanks!
Southern tradition....not a good look if Roman Catholics want to align themselves to the antebellum south.
There's a distinction between antebellum and agrarian. Case in point, Yeoman farmers. : )
This accent has to be an act
There are people in the south who talk like this normally but its becoming less common. I work with people who have accents this thick and some would say I do myself.
Some people are just very talented at saying lots of words but nothing meaningful
That’s is not what William James said. And Hume pointed out there is NO EVIDENCE that religious people are more moral than atheists. The south nicely proves Hume’s point.
Because "scientific evidence" can measure morality, right?
Look at a map that shows current abortion bans. Though not all provide a full ban, the South is almost completely blanketed by pro-life laws.
There is actually evidence that genuine religiosity (meaning not just going through the motions) improves lives and makes more moral people. I'll leave it to you to look that up because you can't just write "no evidence" in all caps without at least some quick looking
Pro-life laws are simply one of many metrics one can use to measure morality. Making blanket statements about who is or isn't more moral is a useless endeavor.
@@AntonAchondoa But you can look for that at least they don't condone murder and that's a pretty low bar for morality so pro-life laws are 100% a good metric in this world we live in