How I treated my MG ZS EV to additional anti-corrosion protection?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 เม.ย. 2021
- In this video I have a go at applying some anti-corrosion protection to the MG ZS EV, using Bilt Hamber Dynax Seam sealant and Dynax S50 wax to address the lack of seam protection on the rear of the car.
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Your MG is no worse underneath than most cars I see. The best manufacturers for undersealing seem to be Kia and Hyundai. Strangely even though I am a massive Toyota fan they dont seem to underseal as well as some others. However even after fifteen years its rare for one to need welding for its annual M.O.T. I can give no better comment than I would not hesitate to buy an MG ZS EV
The most British thing is the cup of tea ready for some hard work. The most important tool for a good job.
In all honesty the best time to rust proof a car is when it is as new as possible. I've previously rust proofed a car with 7 miles on the clock. Manufacturers only want it to last through the warranty period and maybe a little longer to save embarrassment. On a brand new car it takes maybe an hour to inject all the cavities with wax and spray clear underbody wax on the running gear etc. Well worth doing.
Definitely going to do this on my new vehicle! I hope they dont think this is considered a modification for the finance lease agreement though!
@funsky if yhe vehicle is brand new and you don't want anything obvious. I'd recommend Bilt Hamber Dynax UC as it's completely transparent. It's not as durable as the S50 from them but it is considerably less obvious. Its safe on all surfaces, don't get it on brakes though. Then I'd do the cavities with S50 or if you want a clear option then Dinatrol 1000 is excellent for cavities.
So much protection for so little money, well done Matt !
Matt thanks very much for sharing with us MG ZS EV owners.
I don't have an MG, but this is fantastic content. If only everyone who bought a new car did this in the first year of ownership. We recently did the Dynax S50 to our Dacia, and it looks like it already has brown cavity wax dripping out of its box section which is good. The other thing is, I've just had to replace some brake pipes on my 12 year old Toyota due to corrosion, so from now on I will be treating brake pipes with some spray wax or Dynax. They look like they don't have any rubberised coating on your MG so you might want to hit those too. Mine have rubber/plastic coating on most of the pipe, but corroded on the few areas that are bare.
Thanks Matt for doing this video and all your others. The amount of rust on the MG is no more than any other car. There are a number of people looking to fault this being a Chinese made car. For the amount of effort to give additional protection and reassurance is worth the effort. I jack each rear wheel up individually and put bricks under each, that gives plenty of room to get under the back. Then I lower it down and do the front. The ZS is such a spacious and practical car and only 4,314mm long.
Yes there's enough clearance to do this job with a few bricks under the rear wheels or getting the wheel on a curb. Its only at the back this needs doing and the ground clearance of the ZS EV is plenty enough to get under the rear and do this.
Very useful. Thanks.
Great video, showing the truth rather than the prejudice about Chinese cars.
Great video and great to help the community. I would just say that i think the seem sealer has hidden your rust issue and it will come back through and you should of let it dry for a good period (week) as you could of trapped some damp in the joints when you sealed them but i am aware you also dried it. But still super effort 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Great job, prevention for peace of mind is better than cure, did mine last year in Summer, I used Bilt Hamber Dynax UC Clear Anti Corrosion Underbody Wax, it was a lot less messy than the S50 you used, but it's extension tube was more like a wd40 not the clever 360 style of yours
Nice Rig, I have a Jeep Wrangler kitted out too. We should go camping sometime
Nice video
Thanks
Really good have my electric van done next month because it's such a large investment.peugoet have missed the rear end badly and van built in France battery is Chinese.
Hi Matt,
Another great and very useful video. You deserve to get a lot more views. It's something that I have done in the past. It's a bit late to ask now, but do you know if doing the rustproofing in this case will affect the warranty?
I can't see how. Its no different to applying wax to the paint!
That's true! I hadn't thought of it like that.
You let the tea get cold.
MG is a brand from Chinese owned SAIC Motor but that doesn't automatically mean cheap or low quality. Those people that question MG should understand just how many products, automotive or not, that may well be designed or engineered in the UK, US or parts of Europe, but are often assembled in the Far East. Tesla, Apple and Lenovo are a few well-known companies that spring to mind with factories in China. Not forgetting Geely who have majority ownership in one way or another of Volvo, Polestar, Lotus, Proton and LEVC the London electric taxis.
They also make vw's and GM cars under licence and sold 6million cars in one year of all the brand's they make in 2019!
Hi Matt - I wonder of you could do a video on jacking up EVs e.g Zoe - would like to use the Atom Mac stuff on suspension bits but a bit nervous about doing some damage when jacking vis battery etc. Great videos by the way.
Thanks. Jacking up EVs is no different to any other vehicle. You use the jacking points on the sills. You can clearly see them. All this messaging about no able to jack up EVs, is to just stop idiots jacking up on the underside of the battery pack.
@@GoGreenAutos OK thanks, so no special pads required
Go lightly with the seam sealer and just a fine mist of wax will suffice. I’ve seen BMWs with similar corrosion after three years. The main thing is to clean the car underneath regularly with a hosepipe. A pressure washer may do more harm than good.
The existing factory bitumen might actually hide rust when it ages, cracks and moisture enters a delaminated area ?
Does anyone know if Tesla requires rust proofing and sealing? does nayone have any videos of doing it?
Thanks for vid. What about under the battery? Does this invalidate your warranty?
I guess you mean above the battery? It only seems that its the rear that isn't coated with underseal. As for the warranty..I can't see why not. Its no modification. Its no different to coating the paint with wax!
Hi I would think why it has got none on they at the back is because off the battery gets not so that would not do it because off heat so I would say away as you get 7 year warranty on it Nigel as I have just got the 2021 plate and love it Nigel 🤞🇬🇧
Read T&Cs, you don't have 7 year warranty on everything
nice video, who makes those lifts?
See th-cam.com/video/IP7Fz-jt_F8/w-d-xo.html
I'd say the the seam sealer is counter productive unless you can do both sides and ends of the seam. It's just going to trap water in there and rust out quicker. I'd never recommend using any product that sets or creates a barrier that water can get behind. I'm strongly considering using lanoguard products on my 10 year old car. Lanoguard is a bit expensive and you have to do it every year but for effective corrosion treatment that is the only method that actually works. The reason for looking at lanoguard is that it will not degrade rubber bushes or brake hoses so you can spray it everywhere except on the brakes themselves.
My assumption is that you are correct here. The solid sealant could trap in moisture and make it worse....especially if done once rust has started. I would use a liquid product, good old Waxoil?
I recall hearing that London Busses tried spraying with used engine oil each year, worked a treat apparently
@@markthomasson5077 I'd only use waxoyl if you soak the rust in duck oil first. Then you'd want to spray it with duck oil every year to top it up. Otherwise it dries to a crust and the rust carries on underneath. Probably okay if you wire brush to sound metal first. Lanoguard is made from the grease in sheep's wool which is very good at coating and creeping.
I tried engine oil on my last car. It's now being scrapped because it didn't work.
Even if would trap water - not an issue. Just remember chemistry lessons from school, that is reaction which requires oxygen. No oxygen - no reaction, no rust
@@vladzis the oxygen would get in the same way as the water. In fact there will be oxygen dissolved in the water. Put some nails in a jar and fill it to the brim with water and put the lid on. The nails will rust.
If you put seam sealer on anywhere that is already rusty or that has a void behind it then in 2-3 years time you'll be able to peel the seam sealer off with a layer of rust and just possibly half the seam too.
My point is that if you want to protect seams you'd first have to convert the rust using phosphoric acid or something similar and then you'd want to use a product that would seep and creep into all the voids in the seam. I would still recommend that this was a wax or lanolin based product so that you could check it each year and top it up as necessary.
For reference I studied chemistry at A-level in the UK and I've been dealing with rusty old cars and machinery for about 15 years.
If you haven't pulled off seam sealer complete with paint and a layer of rust then you haven't lived.
@@matthewwakeham2206 we have done this experiment in school as well, BUT, we have done another one as well, when you apply oil on the top of a jar. Yes, it will start to rust, but only to a point where it's going to use all dissolved oxygen in the water, and then it stops. I know some products can become sponge like over time, when it hardens, so the there is a chance to oxygen get to rusty and moisty place once again
Never used this bilt hamer whatever but after the 10 or so videos I've seen, this stuff seems legit. But I use mineral, baby oil, heated up Vaseline, mixed with wax from all wax toilet gaskets. Mix 2 gaskets, 2 tubs of Vaseline, 2 bottles of mineral oil if u don't like using motor oil, trans fluid and grease. Either is hard to beat for the cost of anything else and most waxs don't have oils in them and cost ALOT. And taking it to a Kroil, etc place my quote for a Lincoln yown car was $600. That's basic spray, not the best I could get. I can make alot of either mix of oils and wax for $600. Gun yo spray with nozzles, wands etc costs 40-60$.
Matt, I know you're intention is going to be to move this car on but if you were keeping it, how long do you think this sealant would last before you'd need to do it again? We're looking at keeping ours for a fair amount of time you see...
The sealant would last the life of the vehicle. Its as good or better than the OEM sealant.
I have been thinking of getting this done to my three years old Nissan LEAF, not especially because of particular rust wories but, because I will probably buy my car at the end of the PCP period. For my needs (not having to travel 400 miles every day :-) I am very pleased with my LEAF and see nothing on the market worth paying to change car.
Can you give a rough estimate as to the total labour time taken of your work as I will have to ask local garage to do it. I realise that the LEAF will be different but just some indication, thanks.
30 minutes total (if I wasn't trying to film it).
Hi bro. I want to replace oil pan assy for 2021 MG zs could you please tell me for replacing engine must be removed or not ..without removing the engine possible to change oil pan.??
I don't know. I only work on electric, not combustion vehicles.
Have MG had anything to say about this? Given the 7 year antiperforation warrantee and the requirement to have the car examined every year, what would MG do about preventing this rust from becoming a problem? What will untreated cars look like in ten years time?
Great video. We are looking to buy a new MG ZS EV and was interested to know your experience to date with the car, reliability, customer service, range during summer and winter etc. Thank you.
Quite a few MG ZS EV videos on this channel, see th-cam.com/users/GoGreenAutossearch?query=mg
Some might be interested to learn that SAIC is to make Audi’s stretched A7 for their domestic market .
Chinese are just as discriminating as Anglos.........and they make your smart phones to a more than acceptable standard.
We own a red one but Australia doesn’t have salted roads.
Just a quick question, am I right in that the Tesla is built in China? The MG seems to have a least as good of build quality as the Tesla....Anyway a very useful video
Yes, new Model 3 to the UK now come from China...until the German factory opens later in the year.
when you gave price it does not match the amazon price from the links you gave. 24 to 25 pound for each item
but I still have to say as an easy step to give people peace of mind it is really cheap to do.
there was a next stage to just add underseal paint on everything and recover every inch of the underside the car with paint.
if i bought this car it would be what i would do to give years of protection for the metal
I purchased the products direct from Bilt Hamber, along with other items. So after you add the delivery charges, its about the same as Amazon prices.
Putting wax on after its started rusting is not going to stop rust the same with the sealent would be better to do this when its new , dont think i would buy an MG reminds me of all those rust buckets in the 70s
The Bilt Hamber wax I used as anti-corrosion properties and can treat existing rust. They make some excellent rust products.
The S50 is "able to arrest existing corrosion and to provide long-term protection to pre-corroded and corrosion-free surfaces".
@@GoGreenAutos Yes looks like good stuff there use to be a product called Wax Oil, you could buy a pump which had a long tube that you inserted then pump the wax as you withdraw it, cars still rusted because the rust was in the car when it was made.
Take it MG dont galvanise their bodys just dip them.
Kill that rust while it's minor. This is problem. Ppl assume undercoating will save it. Not so. I've seen more rot out with undercoating. Wax and oils way to go. Not hard coats. Kill rust, spray with oil/wax, make urr own with mineral oil, trans fluid, oil, grease and wax.
Ive never seen anyone having to rust proof theyre one year old car, I would not like the cars chances after ten years, this would seem to be a car to avoid
A lot of rust in a very short space of time. Worrying
no not a lot you fool
I don't know which video you were watching? That's par for any car
This is awful , should not have to fart about like this on a new car the factory underbody protection is a joke mg dealer's should be cringing at this video , I have a 2002 vw beetle not touched the underbody no rust at all you can see how thick the coating still is , these mgs are like the early seventies datsuns no longevity with these unless something is done about the bit of slapped on underseal here and there that looks like the handyman as half heartedly had a go at it ,shocking m.g.
Total mess ,you get what you pay for,that’s why I sold my 1 year old MG