Saving the Punto from itself - lashings of rust protection!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ค. 2023
- What do Mk1 Puntos do? They rust. So to save the Oldest Punto in Britain, it broken out the grinder and wire brushes and many litres of Bilt Hamber under body protection to try and stop this car dissolving!
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Bilt Hamber do a great rust removal product called Deox Gel. Brush it on to rust, leave it overnight and the next day rinse it off, nice shiny metal! Great for hard to reach bits and saves a lot of wire brushing!
Jeez your neighbours must have the patience of saints looking at all that crap you’ve got making the place look untidy 😂😂
Good effort here Matt. Bilt Hamber products are great but having used both Dynax UB and UC on plenty of projects you really need to make sure all loose flakey rust is removed by knotted wire wheel, abrasive disc or blasting before application. These products are effective at treating/slowing surface corrosion, but deeper pitting such as that visible on the rear suspension beam and arms, drum backing plates, springs, brackets etc indicates deeper ingress of moisture and delamination of the steel which can't be stopped using a surface treatment. In the longer term, the only way to properly address the body rot is by cleaning back to clean steel, etch priming, stone chipping, painting and then applying protective wax. Keep up the good fight!
This Punto reminds me of my childhood- in my family we had two of them, a 3 door 75 ELX but with the same color as yours and an absolutely base spec 55 5 door and they were lovely little things. The 75 is long gone but the 55 is still around to this day (gave it to a friend) and it still marches on!
I adore that yours is getting some well deserved love! Cheers!
👉🏼😬👈🏼 the sped up wire wheel grinder segment is like a session at the hygienist!
Put rubber floor mats under the rampy things.
Do you get aches and pains the day after a job like this? Occasionally contorting myself under the car doing these sorts of things I notice the day after in the muscles.
not too bad, mostly bashed elbows
Just get on with it. The human body can take strength from any activity. It's actually amazing! We regenerate every day. Gets slower as older you get because natural selection tends towards the young ones. Tend to think them disabled badge folks should just do some exorcism of their perceived ills and free up car parking.
(K. I'll shut Up)
Matt, informative as usual. Just goes to show that patience and planning are so important. Congratulations on a job well done.
You have done a good job there Matt.
The finished result is a credit to your hard work
Bilt Hamber whilst better known for their rust proofing products, they also do really good car cleaning stuff, like snow foams and their waxes are really good.
loop some carpet round the bottom rung of the ramp and they will not slide away when trying to drive up them
Love these kinds of videos. Very informative. It really makes my hands itch to give this a try on my Peugeot 205. I reckon it would really benefit with a bit of rust proofing.
Great job Matt, you saved the Punto! Horrible to do but in the end it gives a good feeling doing jobs like this.
Good job. To stop your ramps moving, cut a couple of peices of shhet steel the width of the ramp and bend one end so it hooks over the first step on the ramp. Then the car holds the ramp in place while you drive up on to it.
That's a really satisfying job - I remember doing it on son's old cars, buckets of Hammerite! Lovely car and such a rarity now!
I can't believe what British weather can do to a car. Here on the Adriatic coast they last forever.
Tbh it's not our weather that rots our cars, but we salt our roads in winter
Also don't forget that car is nearly 30 years old. It's pretty good for a 30yr old UK car, especially a Fiat.
@@georgepom328 That's what I was thinking about
@@georgepom328the weather certainly doesn’t help, but yes it’s mainly the salted roads 😟
Products made by Bilt Hamber Laboratories are hard to beat in terms of rust-treatment. After thorough preparation, I sprayed the Dynax UB on the rear beam, suspension coil pans and anywhere I was finding surface rust, on the 15-year-old underside of the family Polo. But that was during our first lockdown, over three years ago. Due to washing weekly, driving economically, and keeping on top of the maintenance, the Polo is still very black and clean underneath.
To drive up ramps like that cut a couple of long strips of carpet the width of the rungs, fold in half and wrap around the bottom rung then lay it out towards the car. They can't slip until the car is past the first rung and by then the weight of the car should hold it. Also if it has kick plates in the door openings, remove them and drill a hole into the sill so you can get the rustproofing extension in. Don't bother plugging the holes, they're covered by the kick plates and will allow a little air flow which is good.
no, there was surface rust under the the old underseal. so taking it off stops it rusting under that unseen, and Ive only taken it back as far as good metal and paint, then coated it with UB which is a rust neutraliser as well as a covering
@@furiousdriving ?
@@nickhaag7803 sorry, that reply posted on the wrong comment..
@@furiousdriving I have fingers like that after a long day too!
Love this sort of video, nice to see a car brought back to life
Well done Matt another great yet messy job on the punto but will protect it underneath hope you manage to sort that rust on the back wheel arch it’s well worth saving and knowing you will end up being a very nice car looking forward to the next one! Daniel
When straightening bent metal, you want to avoid creating any more stretch than has already ocurred. Work in stages from the edges of the damage, NOT the middle.
This is a great video because... as someone who has done this procedure with various products over the years (now I stick with dynax UB or UC) filming is the last thing I want to be doing, but it has to be done, mucky tripod and camera lense the lot. Great video and the Punto looks amazing, just goes to show how good a decent day of work underneath makes all the difference :)
It is a grim job, but so worthwhile at the end
@@furiousdriving always!
Great to see some Punto action. It is pretty rough around the edges but it is worth saving ❤️😀💪🏻
Love Bilt hamber products I flooded the sills of my Puma with it when it had some repairs done
Great little tinkering video Matt, you have reminded me that i need to do the underside of my Cactus before the summer is out.
yes, get it done while its warn and dry out!
Ahaaaa'choo!
I think I have sneezo-vision, all that rust dust is making me sneeze Matt!
You've certainly extended the life of that rare Punto me thinks. Interesting camera shot displaying your other car also jacked up, we have a theme going on here! I admire your tenacity, it's not easy rolling around on hard tarmac under a barely raised rust cloud.
Cool Matt!! Much respect to you for the hard work. One day you will have a full hydraulic ramp to cut the work hours down.
3:37 only crap because you haven't put two lengths of rope on them which you then put under the other set of wheels and when driving/ reversing will pull the ramps into the wheels being driven up. Been using this method for years and it saves tons of grief trying drive up shifting ramps.
That's a job I need to do on our 94 Punto Cabrio. Thankfully, it is not quite at that stage yet. Hope to see you at FOTU.
Top work to keep this survivor going as long as possible
No one could fault your dedication to this wee Fiat Matt. With the wheels being quite corroded I wonder if Fiat 500 steel wheels would fit.
They do but the elx trims don’t fit over then as the profile of the wheels stick out more than the punto steels
You’ve done a great job on this fabulous little Italian! Bilthamber is awesome stuff by the way! I’ll be there at FOTU with Tom and his Alfa.
Saab.. Oveur
A very sound idea. Such a shame they rot do badly in floor pans as the bodywork seemed to last pretty well, apart from rusty tailgates from memory. Bet it will be a popular exhibit at FOTU
Nice job on that Matt, looks much better but should help keep the car rust free for some time. Dynax is fantastic stuff too.
I’ve just done exactly this job on my Capri and yank tank! I’m a glutton for punishment though so I do it on hot sunny days which makes the wax extra thin and lets it soak into panel seems and gaps. Hot smelly dirty work but well worth it!
Just got my Volvo 740 to do next…
Keep up the good work though, can’t wait to see more on your Crown Vic (maybe that’s a good candidate for more Dynax wax in the future!).
You should see the underside of cars here in Greece, spotless
Same can't be said for the bodywork though 🤣
Grease is the Word! :)
For a moment I thought that was a can of expanding foam in the thumbnail, I hear you can do good repairs using that.
Great job! Looks so much better!
Thanks for sharing Matt. Much appreciated 😊👍
another awesome video. can't wait to see the next one. top job 👍👍
Some Deox-Gel and/or Hydrate-80 would have been great to use before the dynax. I'd personally have used electrox on the areas you took to bare metal too and is what I plan on doing to my Golf. BH stuff is excellent
Damn, the British roads aren’t kind to cars. I myself still keep my late mom’s 1994 Punto 55S and its underside looks brand new in comparison with that, with not a single spot of rust to be found.
Great video pal, ashame you couldn’t dry iced it first then rust converter then that bilt hammer, it’s costly but defo works in preserving, until next time 👍
Nice one Matt. Spending time and effort to keep this car on the road not just fir a few months but years is commendable. Great work and many thanks for sharing. Take care.
I live in Croatia where it is difficult to get things like cavity wax. On the other hand, vehicles don't seem to rust quite as quick as in UK.
Transformational Floor Matt, well done!
Dynax has always been my product of choice too. Great work. See you at the FOTU!
look forward to it, what are you bringing?
@@furiousdriving finger cross, the E12 will be ready. Finishing braking and cooling this week.
Looks good in black. Also recommend use wd40 specialist spray grease to give light coating of exposed metal bits. Works great to keep rust away. Just top it up once a year.
Matt, that looks a good collection of cars on your drive, apart from the Tomcat, those are my favorites 🏴👍
Splendid job sir😊
Back in the seventies having the underside spayed with old oil at each service was common. Worked well but I imagine it's banned now!
Underseal my 1996 Volvo 940 every 2 years. So far in it's 208,000 miles only needed a small patch welding on the drivers side rear outrigger.
What I have done to stop my ramps moving is to tie some rope around the bottom rung, put the ramp against the (rear) wheel with the rope on the outside and then stretch the rope to the inside of the (front) wheel, then as soon as you move the (front) wheel will be on top of the rope, preventing the ramp from moving as the (rear) wheels start to climb it.
Done that with the same products with my 93 190E and 94 Volvo 855. 👍🏻🏴
Good stuff, keep her going.
You should 3M stone chip at its factories, where to do it and use the cover wax it works inside the holes of the car on the body car 3m seam seal clean all the services to buy metal and it works really well factory on the body car
Have you ever used lanogaurd , I need to protect my Mazda eunos before it dissolves and lanogaurd looks very easy to use
Ive seen the ads and people like it but I know this is quality stuff
Wow, that's a huge effort.
I am lazy, I give all the rust a quick spray with something like Comma Release oil or even WD40 then with some thick gloves I smear a pot or two of Copperslip over everything that's rusty. Then inspect and repeat on areas where the rust has fallen off a few months later. After the first year, only yearly inspections and touch-ups are required. Mud traps can be treated with engine oil as dried mud and oil make a good rest preventive, I treat inside sills and box sections with wax if they look perfect inside otherwise they get oil on a semi-regular basis.
One comment I have to make is whatever method of rustprofing (other than a full zinc dip of a bare shell) one still needs to come back every year and inspect and touch up a few areas before the rust takes hold again. In the case of a Punto that probably should have been done every year from new...
How is it holding up? Has rust re-appeared through the coating?
Fair play good hard work 😊
When I was in the motor trade we used to compare Italian cars to dehydrated food, in those days Vesta curries, Surprise peas etc, these days think pot noodles. We used to say Italian cars are made from dehydrated body rot - just add water for instant rust! Trying to keep rust at bay was virtually impossible, even when they were only a couple of years old. We decided the best place to take them for treatment was the scrap yard, then go and buy something non-Italian and half decent.
Matt, great cars in the collection. Love the Alfa, the Rover 75, the Punto and Tomcat. Do they still Zebart cars in England?
not seen it for years, but when you see an unrestored 70s car it normally had it
Buy A small sandblaster better than grinder, although doesn’t replace it
Would it be viable to get a hose fan spray that oscillates and just drive over it? Feel like it’s a lot less manual labour 😂
furious brushing. I bet your neighbours love all the paint smells and noise lol.
ou tin the day
@@furiousdriving result
How many tins of Dynax UB did you end up using? I want to do this job but unsure how much I need
I saw a 1998 Punto for sale £999 sadly by time i phoned the seller had sold it , mint it was too only 70k on the clock
Gotta admit I was thinking about using lanoguard on the underside of my Citroen c2, is this stuff better/easier to apply/longer lasting then something like that??
I think this is longer lasting, and it goes on easy (much cleaner to use than Waxoyl), Ive not used lanogaurd but the adverts make it look easy
I use lanogaurd once a year on my mondeo . Just power wash the underneath of the car off and then coat it in it.
Matt the rust and the metal you exposed from the grinder you should have used bilt hamber hydrate 80 to start with then after painting that on and it going off , then use your spray wax , I’ve just done my TT with it ,I don’t think the old fiat has much longer on this plant , it’s not looking good underneath, you haven’t done anything to stop the rust just sprayed on top of it and made it worse by sanding the under seal off the bottom to expose the metal
no, there was surface rust under the the old underseal. so taking it off stops it rusting under that unseen, and Ive only taken it back as far as good metal and paint, then coated it with UB which is a rust neutraliser as well as a covering
@@furiousdrivingok sorry I didn’t realise that , but it’s some good stuff
@@Phil-1969 yeah, it’s not the old days of black goo and hope for the best!
Agreed... removed a load of primer and underseal, didn't convert the rust, didn't even spray Halfords Zinc primer. Instructions said specifically apply to painted surfaces but it just went on to bare metal as the only protection. Ok for awkward unimportant suspension bits but sloppy for the flooprpan and sills.
@@johnmoruzzi7236everything he does seems sloppy tbh.
You’ve not looked back since I recommended Bilt Hamber
Be interesting to see how this lasts. Doesn't nitrosilvia recommend vactan before spraying this stuff on underbody of cars.
Not sure, Ive missed his rust treatment but this is meant to kill rust as well
Matt, I’m sat here crossing my fingers this video does not involve welding!
For once, we're in luck!
Wow that’s a messy job but well worth doing for sure.
essential!
@@furiousdriving just done the same to the vw aha
nice video . this punto looks good if you compare vith mine but it made 24000 swedish miles in vest coast of Sweden. punto 2 not much better.
THe Grande punto much better !
You are so Good, love these episodes😁
If you want to do this properly, you have to disassemble everything and dry ice blast everything. Now you're only doing the visible parts, but non visible parts are skipped while those get more vulnerable now.
30 year rusted bolts means a couple of days fighting rusted solid fixings, this will creep into most places
I agree with sum ppl here... good effort...🤟 Time well wasted. Welding up the beast "FORD" with that time...much respect 4 try'in.🍺🍺
Did you not c9nsider Hydrate 80 before applying the wax?
You should try the dry ice treatment for the Punto….would be an amazing candidate….
Price of treatment exceeding the value of the car..
in the real world that is not cost effective but fantastic if you have really deep pockets!
Who’s Rob lol
I thought you might be be able to partner with one of these companies to have some cross pollination of viewers….
Id like to try it but I dont think I could afford it/justify it on a £1500 car!
How often do you need to spray rust protector?
depends how much the car is used and the conditions could be every 1 or 2 years, could be 5
Matt, have you ever considered Lanoguard? Is it something I'd like to try on my Volvo XC90.
Ive seen the ads but I know this is quality stuff
Bilt Hamber is indeed good stuff. One of my Triumph friends (now deceased) swore by it.
It seems your channel, apart from reviews, is mostly about preventing, fixing and repairing rust.
How many cans did you use underneath the Punto ?
2 on a car this size, same as on the Mini, but have spotted a couple of places I need to go back over again
I love a black oblong driveway
Is wax enough though where there is bare metal. Maybe Bilt Hamber is different?
its a rust inhibitor as well and it makes a thick covering so should be good
Get the extensions for the ramps they wont run away on you👍
Supposed to be galvanised those cars? Still it can't hurt.
Quick question about your punto, does it have the rare 6 speed gearbox?
No that was the 1.1 EL... very rare.
Bit the bullet and did the under of my Mazzy 2 few months back. Mask and Goggles job.. Not fun..! Ramps made it easier.. Eager to get back under and see what's happened since!
hopefully nothing more than dirt!
I have used Bilt Hamber Dynax UC on brand new cars all underneath stops suspension components even thinking about corroding.
Hammerite's Shultz with built in Waxoyl is great for older cars and leaves a black self healing protective layer on the underside
Did u use the tea shelf?
no, it was full of bits!
Why is it that cars rust so badly in the UK while those same cars outside the UK do not?
road salt and damp climate
Good stuff Matt.
Another excellent video 🚗🚙🚘⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏
These videos make me really miss owning a Fiat. 😞
Anymore updates on the crown vic
A pretty mucky job, well tackled. Have you ever thought of investing in a pair of overalls?
I have but they make working uncomfortable. My waterproof ones are good for bad weather
Gd video
Future proofing your Fiat Punto
Yipee i'm 1,236th today Mattser.