How do you stop self isolating when it feels so much safer being alone? How do you forgive yourself for trusting the wrong person, and overlooking so many red flags?
Lisa Scott - Really? I'm sorry you have the same worries, but it's a comfort that I'm not the only one who feels that way. Sometimes I feel so alone, and disappointed that I am taking so long to heal. Ugh.
Bro bro You definitely won't be the same again but you can certainly become stronger & wiser & that comes in time. Humans all go through a transformation process... It all depends in your frame of mind & how you wish to look @ the experience. For me, I look @ it as a knock up I needed. I was beginning to let my guards down around people in general before this maggot came around... Tale it as a lesson & that you need to work on yourself.
Bro bro don't even acknowledge her.... She hurt you & by now i think you're smarter than even trying to waste the slightest energy on her- you know what you need baby? You need a knock out woman like victoria to give her a call & invite her to one of my parties... I'll be the one dancing with her all night!😈😈😈😈😈😈 just kidding. I'm glad you're doing better just like it really makes me feel good & brings a smile to my face when i browse these comments & see how well people are doing who have left the relationship alone & moved on... Life is way too short & precious to waste it on ingrates. No offense but it just might help if you read the 9 satanic elements & learn about vampirism. Read do a research on Cointelpro CIA & mind control. Information is information. It all depends what you do with it... For years, I've researched religion & wars.. It's all mind control. The whole thing is a huge scam!
Victoria Hills I am very spiritual so I believe in a lot of things my real name is james my ex tried to get me kicked out of a support group I was in online telling them I was the narc and she wasn't. It didn't work
And if you don't allow them, you are a bigot that must be kidnapped and forced drugged in the name of love and tolerance for peace and security. You are guilty because (fill in the blank). Don't ask questions. That is violent behavior.
So true, Michele! After watching a lot of your videos, I wrote down how the stress was physically affecting me and it was an eye opener, down to bodily functions. Once I got my head around the fact he never loved me and it was a co-ordinated constant attack, I stopped caring about fixing the relationship and some of my most toxic pains that I’ve had for decades in my hands and legs disappeared within about three weeks. Stress was even affecting my ability to whistle. When I analysed how I walk, I started to add a little jolt while Grease’s “You’re the one that I want” was playing in my head. I also forced myself to smile when looking in the mirror. At first I couldn’t even look at my face, then after a few weeks, I was able to hold my lips up with my fingers to form a smile. That eventually became a real smile, then a cheeky grin that I still do two years later. I look for the glint in my eyes. These were a big help.
There's admittedly a lot of these narcissism videos that sort of creep into a questionable space where they're just criticising bad relationships. But as someone who went through emotional abuse I really appreciate your perspective and your videos have really helped me to understand what happened to me. Due to the way a narcissist treats you, it's really hard to describe to others what happened, especially because of the way they destroy your ability to stand up for yourself and believe in the things that you're feeling.
You really hit the nail. This video is from start to finish perfectly stated. I used to wonder why at potlucks at work or at group events, I would freeze and become fraught with anxiety. It was because I was dissociating and going into my "shell." The slightest trigger/reminder of the social rejection I experienced in the past in the FOO, or in school, created those feelings of insecurity and re-opened those old wounds that others could see. When people sense this, they really do start treating you accordingly and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's very true that these trigger bonds won't heal on their own. One has to take the steps you recommend in the video. Thank you for all your help.
Society demands you let people harm you when you are down or you are a violent bigot and the police will come kick your door in, though no charges ever filed, and kidnap and force drug you. You are guilty because (pick one or more): 1the wind is blowing 2 The wind isn't blowing 3Its sunny outside 4 it's not sunny outside Remember, they know the facts and care because "I don't know about that and I don't care". You are violent because disagreement is violence. But lying to police to set someone up for murder isn't violence because you disagreed with someone with a little power. Strawman arguments, rhetoric, slander, cognitive bias, etc are facts and evidence. Any real evidence, such as cameras and microphones, are 'conspiracy theories". Even their own cameras. Once again they care so much about people and facts that " I don't know about that and besides I don't care". "I'm doing this because I care." Government god is the best gaslighter.
My grandmother is a narc and I’m sick of dealing with her. I have several narcs in my family and I can’t wait to move out. It always seems like a goal that is so close and yet so far
yeah. You're right. I was never allowed to be angry. I was not allowed to be disappointed, sad, or frustrated without some retribution.. if I was sad I was told that I was not a victim. I was told I was pathetic if I cried, that I should get down off the cross because somebody might need the wood, even if I went off and cried somewhere where he couldn't see me. if I was frustrated I was told that I wouldn't be frustrated if I had my facts correct, and therefore my feelings were incorrect as well. his words, not mine. and if I was disappointed, or he suspected I was disappointed even when I wasn't, there was hell to pay. long silent treatment peppered with passive aggressive physical Behavior such as slamming cabinets, all the way up to overly aggressive verbal punishment. Name-calling, Etc. You know, super classy. but I never gave up. All through those almost 9 years, I continued to rebell and stick up for myself even though in the end I had mastered the art of walking on eggshells.... I still threw that shit back at him. hello cognitive dissonance. I was definitely in a fog, but I guess I still put up a fight every so often. so the relationship was more tumultuous maybe even than he intended. this did not make things better, but at least I'm out now.
Lady Maiden Wow I ❤ your words!!!! You described my situation 100%...... I feel your pain and anxiety. WALKING ON FREAKING EGGSHELLS!!!!! We could never be our TRUE selves. The gaslighting (Making us think we're CRAZY) and cognitive dissonance ...... So exhausting..🙄🙄🥺🥺.... its been a year since the discard. A long slow and painful year..... I've started healing ____ Ever so slowly. Here's a little known fact. (Takes approximately 17 months to get over your EX)
Well said. All that you’ve said has happened. Don’t reach out to those that don’t understand it will only hold up your growth. Reconnection is very hard and trust is just not there.
It helps spending time with good friends. I am lucky to have a few very kind and attentive friends who listen to me and show compassion. However: I feel lonely in my experiences, because it is difficult to explain just how horrible it was to be in a relationship with the narcissist, and my friends have been nowhere near having similar experiences. Moreover, I don't want to "ruin the mood" all the time, so I often don't talk about it even though I feel like bursting because my whole brain is filled with painful memories and thoughts.
Hey there , I know you you donot want to feel like a burden to your friends, I feel that but the type of friends you described,they are probably waiting for you to open your hearts out to them and giving you space .... so you come to them and share by your own.... those are gems..... DONOT feel this way ,your friends would love for you to open all out and share with them, trust me... there are good people out there !!! Much love
Some people, even close family and friends, do not always understand the toxicity in these types of relationships. The common advice to 'just get over it' can be so hurtful and in many cases further devaluing.. Most are familiar with amicable separations and are not prepared to see the difference.
Nanna Moo sometimes is best to keep your family & closest friends out if it... Trust that if they cared enough they would had been paying a little more attention & would had let you know that they are there for you in good & bad times... I learned this lesson when i was in my late teens & later on the picture got even clearer. My family all hold their own 💩 so i really had to learn to strap my boots up on my own like a soldier for battle.
I completely agree. My daughter is at least a social worker PhD candidate. Her sister was a narcissist and as both mother and daughter, I was the scapegoat. I had figured this out but was not prepared at all for my ex to be one too. Denial + him being an extra smart, covert and experienced liar. My parents are both dead but a comment by the daughter I speak to made me start thinking about my (adopted) father who I had always felt was a selfish, somewhat misogynist man of his generation...you know, "The Greatest" one. Now more things are falling into place. This is a long hard journey for all of us. Even my therapist really had no clue. TH-cam held the answers, the questions and the acceptance that was nowhere else to be found.
isn't it a shame that when we seek advice from all sorts of so called "support' organisations and therapists they make NO referrals to other support avenues. They have loads of empathy but no practical solutions for the very many lonely people struggling to cope with this type of abuse. I let them all know about the resources I have found, in the hope that they will share. I am so pleased you have the support of your daughter. In my initial search for help I discovered many channels that were negative and degrading which was even more distressing and draining. Michelle's channel and others are a God sent gift. May all be going well for you. x
Nanna Moo that is SUCH a truthful statement! I find, that many people absolutely refuse to believe the situation could be “that bad”.they assume that you are “over exaggerating”, and if it was REALLY “that bad” you would have left. It is very frustrating and devaluing....
You must be cautious about what you say, as the other thing that people ask is "What did you do that made it that bad?. No insight at all!!!! It is important to mention the actions or inconsistencies in behaviours with NO labels. Hope you have the ability to set yourself free.
I remember. I never was allowed to be sick or tired... never... until I come to hospital. Never be good enought... I mustn't drive a car or visit my family or friends. Year by year I were more separate. I never could spent money without asking him and he was the only one who bought my stuff. Now I don't wondering that I spent too much money... I'm free and enjoy it so much. My past hurts.
My children have watched me struggle and try to come back from the Abuse... sometimes good and often not so good. At 63 I feel broken when I was discarded at 58. No jobs for old women yet the Court told me to get a job at minimum wages... he snickered. I am so alone in recovery, if there is any such thing. My story is so long... B.C. for 18 years, kids with disabilities... NOT the picture of Success he imagined for himself. Sad.....
You wrote this a while ago so don't even know if you'll see this but I hope you are ok. I'm 58 and divorced my narc husband several years ago and feel awful, I feel broken, lonely, my brain has changed and I'm not the same person. One day I feel as though I'm moving forward, enthusiastic to try and meditate and think positive but the next I'm literally sobbing. It's a terrible thing. I understand what you're saying.
i m 63 also married to my covert narsicist wife for 40 years ...awoke for one year ...and because im broken physically emotionally, spiritually and financially im stuck.....having to live with her, separate everything...its sad living a fake marriage...but ive had 40 years of pratice.....its interesting or now i understand the torture being projected my way....the good thing is ...this year i have started to untangled myself from her...and leaving will b less hard i hope...
@@mreloo I feel you. Been awake about my malignant narc of 20 years... Understanding that EVERYTHING he did and said we're part of the game. My checklist is getting longer... But like you, I am stuck big time, he made sure of it. Never did my residency papers so I have to stay in the shadows... Find yourself, get stronger from the inside. It's hard, there's so many layers to this... Prayers to you. Just glad your eyes are opened. I can't believe I didn't find out about this sooner... But now: I know!😊
Thank you, Michelle. You cover things so essential to a vital personality that it becomes an essential processor of everything else out there. Thank you and God bless.
Im scared of people i dont know who to trust anymore it sucks i feel sick and I'm starting to get sick again especially since ive seen him 3xs this week due to my girls birthdays. I left and discarded him but i cant grieve because im back with my narc family plus i have kids smh. Im trying to quit smoking i cut back tremendously but sometimes I get overwhelmed i only have God because i cant talk to my babies about it especially since he's their dad.
breebo013 I understand completely I hope you get away soon... you are brave for leaving and very smart knowing we have to grieve. And during healing a lot of us have vices. Smoking etc. It will pass when it does but I do find you very brave. Sending love and light your way!
Michelle Lee thank you so much for responding he keeps bothering me and it sucks because despite the abuse i still find myself thinking of him 😮. Its crazy i want to block him but my kids...
breebo013 The reason we think about narcissists is because they have caused so much distress in us. I have asked myself after breakups “why think about someone that’s not a good human” well that’s probably why. We can’t believe it. We don’t want to. I have a child with a narcissist and I feel you. I got away barely alive in 2011. Scared because he had me believing I was a horrible person I was so gutted. I then stayed on my healing path. Got into therapy to know myself again. Realized I’ve been an empath my whole life. And now I’m doing inner child healing. It’s hard. You are still in it and I am soooo sorry because I know the feelings of confusion and pain. I know you will find your way. We are stronger than we realize. No matter what is said to us by narcissists. They don’t want you to shine. They don’t want you happy. But there’s so many people... including strangers that only hope for your smile and light to shine bright. Hugs and love to you.
I suffered from insomnia for years after narc abuse. I had to take prescription sleeping pills in order to fall asleep. But then a doctor told me about a natural way to get some sleep. She said to download f.lux (it's a free application), and it will automatically dim your computer screen, allowing you to fall asleep naturally. It worked like a charm! It may not work for everyone, but it got me off those sleeping pills immediately, and now I fall asleep naturally. My problem was that my computer's blue light was stimulating my brain and causing me to stay awake at night. You can also wear blue light blocking glasses. But I found that a good night's sleep was what I needed to really heal myself.
Peace Joy ive been suffering from insomnia for 3 years because of the pain my narcissist ex has caused me. Ive got ptsd, etc, trying to fall asleep at night is so tough when all the memories play back like a movie in my mind.
Its weird how i always think my healing journey is over. But, depressingly its not. I still feel so many emotional and all and its just frustrating. I have a big sister that i have to deal with, she bullied me since I was 4, shes like that because I have a father who is a narcissist. she is healing too, but she still treats me bad. there is so much more, but I really dont wanna get into it, It just makes me wanna cry. Not trying to do a sad party here. But, I cant take this anymore.
Punah T I feel ya.. ..i just figured out why I have felt this way for so long!! I am in the midst of a smear campaign with what I thought was a good friend. Turn around and get little support from family. They are pretty comfortable with me in my little box. Quiet and content and without opinion. Amazing....
BP Archambault BIG question, what happends when you try to speed up the healing journey, or when you do speed up the healing journey. is it good or bad? I always debate with my self thinking i should get over it quickly or just take my time and let it go natural. Is there such thing is fastpast healing from abuse?
Thank you- so much to say... I’ve been connecting to coworkers since I’m still mostly isolated from family, friends, and church. But hopefully not for long.
Lisa Scott was he with you when he wasn't with her or did he get involved with you while still being with her? More than likely, he played you both against each other. That's what this maggot did to me & the girl he ran back to. He was trying to get us to fight physically. He knows my temper. He was trying to use me to accomplish his goal which was to get that girl hurt .. I saw a photo of her looked in her eyes & my gut feeling told me something wasn't right about his story. Later I met her. I invited over my home & she's a good woman. I felt real bad for bad for her. She's in her late 40's but she seems lost, naive, acts like an adolescent. He's in control of her mind. One day he refered to her as "she's my program!". My brain shook! He's an evil SOB all the way!!!
Lisa Scott I'll tell you what this maggot said to me when he continued trying to keep me hooked... He called me up one afternoon. His voice dropped like trying to speak. When i yelled & ' why the fk are you still calling SOB? ' he said " I want to posses your mind & soul! I'm going to buy you a ring as a symbol that your mine forever!" you can just imagine the 💩 that came out y mouth! Lol they are evil!!! & still, he said " so, when can we meet?" lol just reminds me of lucy & mina in the hands of Dracula------ the whole thing is so sick but i can laugh about it today.🌻😃
Victoria Hills to be honest, i have no idea if my ex was seeing others while she was with me. Its been almost a month since i finally went no contact. I hope she doesnt find a way to come back. Ive cut all contact.
You’re right like he’ll. Omg. I can’t believe this is true and I’m really not crazy. It was crazy environment around me from my child and I didn’t know nothing else so I started making my own cadge and didn’t even know about it. It’s crazy. I can’t believe.
Whenever I try to talk to my mum about a big issue I’m upset about such as a family death she always twists the subject and says something like ‘are you upset because you failed that test’ , when I have literally just told her why I’m upset , I’m only 16 and she does it every time I try to talk to her . It’s really confusing and frustrating and me being upset and going to her for support always ends in a huge argument and me having a panic attack . She always says it’s because of another completely unrelated or untrue reason sometimes things I’ve never thought about before , a common one is “ is this because such and such (usually a close friend) doesn’t like you ?”. I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to how I can stop this affecting me so much and ultimately stopping me from trusting others and thinking I’m dramatic and overreacting.
Mike Kelleher , I think you need to stop telling your mom about your feelings. She is not listening to you and is using your confiding in her to make you feel bad about yourself. You need to find another person to talk to. If she asks why you have stopped confiding in her just tell her something bland like, "I really like the weather today." Then tell her that she looks pretty in that color. If you refocus on her with a compliment, you can then escape the room quietly. It may be harsh to say, but sometimes we can't have open relationships with people in our family, even moms. It may be better to protect yourself than to seek support from them, because some people just can't give any.
My Mother is a Narcissist .. I finally figured that out at 43. She has emotionally and financially abused Me for as long as I can remember. I can not go to Her for Love, Support or to Feel Safe. And The Pain of it is SO Great .. 💔 And I never truly knew my Father .. But I have been Blessed with a few Good a Friends. My advice to You is .. I hope you have trusted others you can reach out to for love and support .. if not a Good Counsellor may be of some help. Ask Someone you can trust. As Danylle Chalcraft said in Her reply unfortunately some of Us Do Not have The Unconditional Love of a Parent or Family. And Life is Hard and Full of Big Issues .. and 16 is Young and So Unsure 💛 I hope there is Some One Who can Guide and Support You. Boundaries .. Be Gentle with a Your Self .. Trust in Your Self .. Value Your Self .. Grief, Loss and Acceptance and Resolution are a Process, Day by day. And some times we may never have The Answer. Try to Think about The Values that are Important to You .. What makes you Feel Safe, Happy .. What makes a You Dream. I wish You Courage, Safe Passage, Love, Abundance and Joy 🐅😀🥇
Thank you frome the bottom of my heart. You speak so eloquently. You are closing my gap and healing me. What you said I have always known whitin myself but because my environment never allowed myself to see as it is - I have been traumatized and never known the way out of it. Thank you yoz have put worda into my thoights and I will go on as a grounded person. You are amazing, because of you I want be trapped into my childhood experience and go on.,.
I get really cold tinggles everytime I watched your video can't breath and need to take break to continue watching so to learn and understand the situation..
Mine as been 5 months now and i don't want to go out.but feel so much better .just rember we are good kind people and we deserve much better .everyone thinks my ex narcissist is so nice and perfect I want to scream .but I defo won't waste my breath .be strong we will all get there and be happy xxxx
I feel the same way. In my case I’m isolated from my friends, have no one to talk to. I can’t tell him how I feel or if he did something that hurt me because he twists my words around and tries to flip it to the point where I’m thinking I’m losing my mind. I don’t make enough but all of the bills are in my name so he has me trapped. Some times i feel he’s trying to cause me to snap so he can divorce me and take custody of our kid together. I have an older son just out of high school that lives with us. I have no family here. My mother lives far and she’s sickly with too many problems of her own. He knows this! So I feel he believes he has me cornered and there’s no way out. This pain is so much I don’t know how long I’ll be able to withstand
💯♥️ Everything was all about him, all day every day. They don't care about anyone else but themselves. They are very greedy. They are very needy. They use people like toilet tissue 😡........ I thank God for Michelle and these videos!👍 Her voice is like that of a teacher. She speaks perfectly. I don't feel offended by her content at all. I feel better about going through narcissistic abuse now that I understand because of Michelle what this thing is. I'm grateful that you are sharing this information 🙏❤️😊.......
What if you're completely alone? No family whatsoever, and severed relationships due to abandonment over a life-altering, ongoing physical health crises? I don't know who to trust. Even the "professionals" have let me down. I lose my temper all the time now and suicidal ideation has become a regular part of my life.
My narc is a friend and things were fine until he begged to move in with me last year so it was hell on earth for 9 months until i made him move into a camper in my backyard, he's one of the kind who has to be in control of something and he basically thought he was going to move in and change how we run our house and he seen the first month that he wasn't running shit so for 9 months i had to deal with his shitty little attitudes and back handed comments and his crying,pouting and tantrums, constantly yelling at him for overstepping my boundaries, he's one of the worst because hed start to get all loud or mad or demanding,it only took me and my wife telling him off and calling him out and he'd fold right away and try to be all nice and on the 8th month, i went off him full throttle and screamed at him and told him anymore shit out of him and he's gone (long story short) and the 9th month he went into the camper, he's still annoying and a crybaby and he tries to showboat to me and gets so pissed because i dont respond the way he wants and though i showed him who runs the show in my house, i dont feel the same anymore, more introverted, more cynical, distant from others, less energy....i guess the battling and negative energy zapped me.
One sure shot method of telling if person is narcissist is that, a narcissist will never have any long time or childhood friends and all his/her friends will be relatively new.
The only way I could describe my experience is to say that I got ate up, chewed up, and spit out. I didn't see any of it coming, back then. But now, I see I had more red flags waving around in front of me than Russia during the cold war. I know I needed counseling before this experience with the narc, but now I realize just how injured I actually am. I feel numb, a little disappointed (mostly in myself) but most notably with a deep sense of loss. The realization of the collateral damage after being in this relationship was tremendously tough. I lost a lot. I lost a relationship with my father, my relationship with my kids was almost severed completely, I'm just barely talking to my brothers again, and Im just barely starting to repair the relationship with my mom. It feels like the moments just after an accident or explosion, very disorienting and unsettling. I'm letting the smoke settle a bit. I guess at this point I just want to be alone and away from everybody. My heart goes out to others in the same boat. We all are seeking answers and peace.
Do you happen to have information regarding a friend helping another friend who I know is going thru this narcissistic nightmare. I wanna help her, but I don't know how...
The biggest Challenge is making Friends n not isolating! Practicing Mindfulness & Yoga is One of the best things. Unfortunately My X had no choice but to get Healthy because he has cirrhosis of the liver. BioPoler n Alcholic. He's in Recovery & does Practice Meditation but he believes in many God's. We always Walked together but I'm thankful that I didn't commit to go to the same Gym, & it pissed him off. I tryed Supporting him in AA n Iv gone to many Al-Anon Meetings but I Stopped because I see him there. Codependent groups or Celebrate Recovery at a local church can Really help. It's a Christ centered program that works the 12 Steps for hurts habits n hangups. Taken from the books lives healing Choices n the Purpose Driven Life. Michelle Ur Beautiful & Smart & U don't even look old enough to have been in a Toxic Relationship for tat long. . I can Speak for Everyone that Were So Grateful for you. 😁
I experienced the 3 ways narcs break you for myself. My narc relationship went on for 12 years on and off.. it was hell hell an more hell. An the reason I didn't leave cuz I forgave like a fool and got trapped just to be abused more by my ex and flying smear clowns. I'm not the same man I use to be but I'm still a man and it jus takes time and alil searching and self repair
I'm so scared to date anyone anymore cus I've had more than one narcissist suck the life out of me and I'm not me anymore. Trying to find myself and work on my new trust issues. I used to be so trusting, bubbly, kind... I just want to be able to open up to someone again and I know I wint be able to for a long while yet still..
I just yesterday, broke up with my narcissistic ex-girlfriend...it has been surreal watching all of these videos, because it's like she watched them all too and formed her personality, thoughts, and conversations around them all. She is definitely a somatic narcissist, then after being with me, would at times attempt - usually failing, which I used to think was cute - at being cerebral, and intellectual. I know it all came from her messed up - to put it lightly - childhood, but she was a pathological liar, most likely a sociopath, would steal anything and everything, cheated behind my back over half a dozen times, that I know of - that is why I ended it yesterday, when this all came to light, the reason I stayed so long is because of her daughter who I cherished as my own - would gaslight me constantly, and build me up to such heights I had never felt before, only to tear me down to an even smaller person than I was to begin with. All the while making it seem it was my fault always, she never apologized or took accountability for her actions, it was always someone else's fault. I lost all - I have none now - of my friends, who she either had sex with, or if they wouldn't and they'd warn me about her, I would defend her and cut them out of my life, with her encouraging it all the way. The worst part was - she knew this too - she had a daughter, I basically adopted from age 1 to 3, she called me Dad, spent five to six days out of the week with her, and loved and adored her like my own daughter. Now I feel as though my family is gone and destroyed and it was all just an elaborate lie and rouse on me, for my money, land, and everything I would give her. The sex was insanely amazing, but that was the only time I truly felt intimacy with her, then telling her that, she told me I had issues with sex and intimacy and needed help. I just feel so lost, and alone right now...I feel as though the last two years of my life have been a complete and utter lie and I don't know how to even begin to move on. Last night when I ended it and called her out on all of this, she cackled and said, I was the crazy one and abusive for being so angry - after she had beat the living shit out of me on three separate occasions before this, I had just had enough...thank god this was over the phone, or it most definitely would have been violent, with me trying to hold her back and block all her punches and kicks. I did and a part of me still does love her and I just don't know what to do...she told me she was pregnant, but I don't even know if it's my baby...should I try to have a family with her or can you ever love and be loved by a narcissist? I just need some serious advice. Thanks.
I just read and I hope by now this psychopath is out of your life and you are doing well. I went through the same thing and it takes time to heal. But you do heal.
Once I tried to behave and talk like the narcissistic sister back at her (that out desperation cause I didn’t knew anymore) so I did back at her exactly like she did to me always! Well.... I don’t recommend it to no one 🙈🙈👀
You shake my nerves and you rattle my brain Too much love drives a man insane You broke my will, oh what a thrill Goodness gracious great balls of fire
I am so fed up and sick of narcs f ing with me ! Walked on egg shells in my first marriage and father of my two kids! My first born son committed suicide. He left me for a so called Christian woman who was on her second marriage . Her holier than thou self's son joined the US Special forces at the beginning of the Afganastan/ Iraq war! Her demon son was trained in Psy Op's ! Her son was the same age as my son Travis. He visited Travis ( from North Carolina) the week my son Travis killed himself ! Those evil military ops teach the demons to persuade, coerce and change ! Charles Allen persuaded and coerced my son age 27 to buy a shot gun and blow his own brains out
I have been raised by a narcissist. I am 57, and lived my entire life traumatized by my mother. She is 86 and she is in the early stages of dementia. But every bit as abusive. I have been married to 3 severely physically abusive husband. I have been divorced from the last one for 30 yrs. Yeah, I was running from one abusive situation to another. The last guy I dated, I was 34, tried to murder my son! I had a child. I took him with me and ran to keep him from being hurt. When he was six, I was 26, I left, not yet had divorced my 3rd husband, and went to school. I stabilized my son and I. I had estranged from my mother. My brother committed suicide, he was a Lutheran minister, but felt abandoned by God. My mother raised him and saw to it, that he kill himself. I felt obligated to her, being the only person she had left. She hadn’t changed, even after the 2 years I had gone no contact before then. Then, she retired! I couldnt’ get away from her! I’m a mental health professional but she was always showing up, throwing herself on the floor of my job... a mental health center!! She called the police and would tell them I was missing, they showed up on my job!! She is an absolute nightmare! Has me go get gas in her car, then reports her car stolen! In the meantime, thru all my running, staying in shelters, getting away for short periods of time, getting thru college,, achieving success, and raising an awesome successful son who is capable of love, understands everything we went thru, and still doesn’t blame me. I’ve been running my whole life. At 57...poverty is protecting me (hsg, fs...) I’m protected by there rules and standards. When she calls the police, or goes into my landlords office, my counselors office, everywhere, claiming I’m killing myself... just to get in my house. She has gone to work on 3 of my jobs, after I gave up my career. I went to AA. I was drinking too much, and I needed help. I needed to go where ppl liked me and focused on a Higher Power that would give us peace. Didn’t happen! Ppl hit on me and would call me relentlessly...13 stepping men. One of them brike in my house, and the other one was the one who tried to kill my son “because he didn’t understand our love”!! And those ppl followed from one meeting to another! Another one of them went to jail for stalking me...and was offering to pay ppl in jail to find me and tell him where I was... the hail alerted me! Then! He finds my mom. Goes to her house looking for me, and she plans an intervention on me...with him!! Support groups didn’t help me! I’m a sicko magnet. I’ve started meditating, as suggested, I started praying again, I’m actuvely working on forgiveness and self-love, but I’m lonley. The 2 friends, of 17 and 32 yrs, both died, the same year, 5 yrs ago. I want to get well, I “binge” watch videos, keep my meditation down to 2x a day, to avoid burnout, I get up, take walks, adopted a cat. I’m trying. But my only “friend” left has a history of beating me. He doesn’t anymore... but defining my friends as “they don’t beat me, and they’re nice to me sometimes” isn’t enough for me anymore. I have no money to speak of, and my doctors and counselors do just as you said...they want me to own responsibility for my reactions and understand SHE’s sick!! These videos are all I have! Are tgere any FREE online narcissistic abuse support groups! I don’t want to stay stuck in knowledge, anger and fear! I want to learn how to be myself ...HELL... who I am! And, I want friends that can’t touch me, but can understand me and share with me. I want to get back “out there” but more than not trusting other ppl, I don’t trust me! Do you have any suggestions of a group where we can share, like in a conversational way?
Pfsif Clovis Star is his main channel right now, but he has over 30. Approximately 2 per website. He uses those accounts to up vote his videos, and down vote people he is angry with.
It is written: Therefore, beloved, being warned of this, beware lest ye fall into the error of the wicked, and fall from your affirmation. 2Peter’s 3-17 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7-15 "And I saw another angel fly in heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people. And he said with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour is come when he will judge; and worship the One who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water. And another angel, a second, followed him, saying, The great Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that made all nations drink of the wine of her fornication. And another, a third angel, followed them, saying in a loud voice, If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he will drink of the wine of God's wrath, which is prepared pure in the cup of his wrath; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment shall be for ever and ever; and those who worship the beast and his image will have no rest day or night, or anyone who accepts the mark of his name. This requires the patience of the saints, those who keep God's commandments, and faith in Jesus ”(Rev. 14: 6-12). And yet, it is written: Fear God and repay Him Glory, for the hour of His judgment has come, and worship the One who made it heaven, earth, sea, and springs of water. ”- Revelation 14: 6, 7. It is written: John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. And he who rejects the gift of salvation is written: Revelation 14:10 He also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is prepared pure in the cup of His wrath, and will be tormented with fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb. And it is also written: For there is nothing secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.Luke 8:17. This world is going away and if you want to be saved, give glory to your Creator, repent! And this is the golden verse of the Bible:For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.John 3:16. Ecclesiastes 12 - 13.14Let us hear the end of the whole word: Fear God and keep His commandments, For this is all for man;14 For every hidden thing, God will bring to justice every deed, whether good or evil. Luke 6:31- And as you desire men to do unto you, so do ye to them. God bless you!
05:40 Medication?? you mentioned medication? Medication in the absolute best case can just alter your brainchemistry...but not hollistic you will be in the same bad shade...and degenerate from psychological stress.. Medication could be an alternative if you lost your streangh, for a mopth or two...but is never a long way solution..because its just symptom orientated... With a high green raw food diary you can set up your self to be able to release most of your inner demons.
Can someone please tell me if I will ever feel my emotions fully again. I left a physically abusive malignant narc exactly one month ago. I've started feeling glimmers of happiness and hope again, but they feel so flat. Like, I can't feel them as intensely or for as long as I did before. Is there any reassurance that my ability to feel will come back? Am I permanently flattened?
Explain why it is always a he, I have come out of several relationships with narcissistic women that are worse than bed this is why I hate these channels women do not consider other women as narcissist it blows by mind#!!!!!
I think negative self talk is something hard to deal with. In therapy, she asked me to describe my negative self talk. I felt ashamed and embarrassed that I got involved with him in the first place. Why I fell twice for his crocodile tears and BS apologies. Blah, blah, blah, shoulda coulda... She recommended stopping that shit cold. Replace it with positives. Pride to have broken free. Smarter, wiser, for lessons learned. Listing your positive qualities that, despite his best efforts, he couldn't take away. Narcs do a lot of damage, but we're strong and we can heal.
On the topic of trauma Bond. My Question is:we kept getting into fights. And it got to the point that the fight would be her fighting me and then me fighting her. And then a little love making. This is in a two year relationship at the end of our two year relationship, 2 months of that we got married, she got locked up put into jail. I got her out and then she left me again. I guess my question would be. If I am physically abusing her (& only twice I have done this) & she is physically ,spiritually ,emotionally financially abusing me. Would she have a trauma Bond as well being a narcissist? And due to the fact that she did a final discard to me, stating that she didn't ever want to see me again or be around me. Is there a chance that she will try to contact me or love bomb me as well? And I'm not stating that fighting her those two times is right, but it's like I felt and anger come over me. And then of course we made love😈😟😫 when you physically abuse and narcissist?
Still in 13 yr he says hell leave me never gping 2 marry me crazy not good enough.. Makes me want 2 die. Know him since 12 so 20 yrs and i just want it to all be ok we bought a house half half my name he didnt put on the deed. I dont drive so he uses that. All my family died in 5 yr period mom sep 2017. We moved from nyc to border of maine canda no where.. And its just the darkest days i havent even be able to grasp my moms and family deaths .. He tells me im pathetic loser cause im not working for the moment. He spits on me throws tea water on me. Calls his moms and talks bad about me 2 her. And im trapped i will lose everything inculding the truck i bought that he drives. I feel like i want 2 die.. Hes my bff 20 yr and gusband 13. I just want w be happy w him. I feel like i want 2 die alot from all the turmoil .. I just try 2 please him but im never good enough:( why why..Im not perfect but i know sonething is wrong. He says i abuse him. I just finally am braking and even being mean like him its changing me and im scared im really broken ..
Online support groups are dominated by women and a lot of man hating and male abuse assumption is commonplace. Support groups also tend to have people giving horrible advice, and are hearing only one side to a story. I think support groups are the WORST thing for anyone, esp women because there are so many other female enablers there.
David Yisrael Had found the same initially. Many support groups are nasty and degrading mostly. Finally however found the Dad Surviving Divorce Support Group which is uplifting and supportive. He has a secret face book group. It has an almost equal gender split. Duane Roberts has helped so many of us. Don't know how I would have fared orherwise nor without Michelle's great calm and wisdom. Wishing you all the best. X
Ive thought of it but the issue is men tend to stay silent and arent as proactive as women are, which is why most of these groups are so dominated by women.
David Yisrael I worry some in the support groups are narcissists. I also wish it wasn’t gender bias because NPD isn’t gender specific. Empty souls are within any gender race etc. I think there should just be a site with people trying to find their tribe who know what this insanity feels like and wants to heal and help. 🧚🏻♀️
I have had a very bad narcissistic abuse by a false twin.. Soul connection.. N thus it's been really damaging to me at the core. I'm shattered into pieces and feel like no one will ever love me n no one would care about me because I don't deserve love and sympathy cuz I feel like I'm a bad person. N i did feel like I was the narcissist in the end. It's been such an awful tricky situation man. I used to respect him so much and still love him.. N worshipped him like a God in my heart. I'm so lost now.. I don't know who I am or what my interests are anymore Cuz anything i did was ridiculed or criticized. So I have major self worth issues now. The sad part is that he was the only one who ever truly paid attention and showed affection to me.
How do you stop self isolating when it feels so much safer being alone? How do you forgive yourself for trusting the wrong person, and overlooking so many red flags?
Anna Tiernan i ask myself those same qustions all the time
Lisa Scott - Really? I'm sorry you have the same worries, but it's a comfort that I'm not the only one who feels that way. Sometimes I feel so alone, and disappointed that I am taking so long to heal. Ugh.
Anna Tiernan Exactly the same way i feel
Lisa Scott - 💗
Anna Tiernan ❤ i hope you will be able to heal one day too
Wow, they disconnect you from you, yes, yes, yes. So powerful.
I don't think I will ever be the same way ever again
Bro bro You definitely won't be the same again but you can certainly become stronger & wiser & that comes in time. Humans all go through a transformation process... It all depends in your frame of mind & how you wish to look @ the experience. For me, I look @ it as a knock up I needed. I was beginning to let my guards down around people in general before this maggot came around... Tale it as a lesson & that you need to work on yourself.
I hope you feel better Victoria
Bro bro don't even acknowledge her.... She hurt you & by now i think you're smarter than even trying to waste the slightest energy on her- you know what you need baby? You need a knock out woman like victoria to give her a call & invite her to one of my parties... I'll be the one dancing with her all night!😈😈😈😈😈😈 just kidding.
I'm glad you're doing better just like it really makes me feel good & brings a smile to my face when i browse these comments & see how well people are doing who have left the relationship alone & moved on... Life is way too short & precious to waste it on ingrates.
No offense but it just might help if you read the 9 satanic elements & learn about vampirism. Read do a research on Cointelpro CIA & mind control. Information is information. It all depends what you do with it... For years, I've researched religion & wars.. It's all mind control. The whole thing is a huge scam!
Victoria Hills I am very spiritual so I believe in a lot of things my real name is james my ex tried to get me kicked out of a support group I was in online telling them I was the narc and she wasn't. It didn't work
Victoria Hills that's why I changed my name on TH-cam just want to be honest
Many of them take your time, your mind, and your life..
And if you don't allow them, you are a bigot that must be kidnapped and forced drugged in the name of love and tolerance for peace and security. You are guilty because (fill in the blank). Don't ask questions. That is violent behavior.
Definitely not allowed to be tired. Always had to "perform" and be "on".
After draining you they still want to drain you
Being not able to perform and being exhausted made their narcissistic rage again it’s a cycle , so much so mush exhausting
So true, Michele! After watching a lot of your videos, I wrote down how the stress was physically affecting me and it was an eye opener, down to bodily functions. Once I got my head around the fact he never loved me and it was a co-ordinated constant attack, I stopped caring about fixing the relationship and some of my most toxic pains that I’ve had for decades in my hands and legs disappeared within about three weeks. Stress was even affecting my ability to whistle.
When I analysed how I walk, I started to add a little jolt while Grease’s “You’re the one that I want” was playing in my head. I also forced myself to smile when looking in the mirror. At first I couldn’t even look at my face, then after a few weeks, I was able to hold my lips up with my fingers to form a smile. That eventually became a real smile, then a cheeky grin that I still do two years later. I look for the glint in my eyes.
These were a big help.
No wonder i didnt get pregnant. We tried for years and nothing happened. A divine intervention
There's admittedly a lot of these narcissism videos that sort of creep into a questionable space where they're just criticising bad relationships. But as someone who went through emotional abuse I really appreciate your perspective and your videos have really helped me to understand what happened to me. Due to the way a narcissist treats you, it's really hard to describe to others what happened, especially because of the way they destroy your ability to stand up for yourself and believe in the things that you're feeling.
You really hit the nail. This video is from start to finish perfectly stated. I used to wonder why at potlucks at work or at group events, I would freeze and become fraught with anxiety. It was because I was dissociating and going into my "shell." The slightest trigger/reminder of the social rejection I experienced in the past in the FOO, or in school, created those feelings of insecurity and re-opened those old wounds that others could see. When people sense this, they really do start treating you accordingly and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's very true that these trigger bonds won't heal on their own. One has to take the steps you recommend in the video. Thank you for all your help.
Breakthrough Moment I'm glad you've payed attention. This is about saving your life & living healthy & having a peaceful mind.
Society demands you let people harm you when you are down or you are a violent bigot and the police will come kick your door in, though no charges ever filed, and kidnap and force drug you. You are guilty because (pick one or more): 1the wind is blowing
2 The wind isn't blowing
3Its sunny outside
4 it's not sunny outside
Remember, they know the facts and care because "I don't know about that and I don't care". You are violent because disagreement is violence. But lying to police to set someone up for murder isn't violence because you disagreed with someone with a little power. Strawman arguments, rhetoric, slander, cognitive bias, etc are facts and evidence. Any real evidence, such as cameras and microphones, are 'conspiracy theories". Even their own cameras. Once again they care so much about people and facts that " I don't know about that and besides I don't care". "I'm doing this because I care."
Government god is the best gaslighter.
My grandmother is a narc and I’m sick of dealing with her. I have several narcs in my family and I can’t wait to move out. It always seems like a goal that is so close and yet so far
yeah. You're right. I was never allowed to be angry. I was not allowed to be disappointed, sad, or frustrated without some retribution.. if I was sad I was told that I was not a victim. I was told I was pathetic if I cried, that I should get down off the cross because somebody might need the wood, even if I went off and cried somewhere where he couldn't see me. if I was frustrated I was told that I wouldn't be frustrated if I had my facts correct, and therefore my feelings were incorrect as well. his words, not mine. and if I was disappointed, or he suspected I was disappointed even when I wasn't, there was hell to pay. long silent treatment peppered with passive aggressive physical Behavior such as slamming cabinets, all the way up to overly aggressive verbal punishment. Name-calling, Etc. You know, super classy. but I never gave up. All through those almost 9 years, I continued to rebell and stick up for myself even though in the end I had mastered the art of walking on eggshells.... I still threw that shit back at him. hello cognitive dissonance. I was definitely in a fog, but I guess I still put up a fight every so often. so the relationship was more tumultuous maybe even than he intended. this did not make things better, but at least I'm out now.
Key phrase "hell to pay".
Lady Maiden Wow I ❤ your words!!!! You described my situation 100%...... I feel your pain and anxiety. WALKING ON FREAKING EGGSHELLS!!!!! We could never be our TRUE selves. The gaslighting (Making us think we're CRAZY) and cognitive dissonance ...... So exhausting..🙄🙄🥺🥺.... its been a year since the discard. A long slow and painful year..... I've started healing ____ Ever so slowly. Here's a little known fact. (Takes approximately 17 months to get over your EX)
Yes so true...can relate so well. But I kept it under cover so well.
Well said. All that you’ve said has happened. Don’t reach out to those that don’t understand it will only hold up your growth. Reconnection is very hard and trust is just not there.
Teresa Currie,hope you are not with a narcissist!
It helps spending time with good friends. I am lucky to have a few very kind and attentive friends who listen to me and show compassion. However: I feel lonely in my experiences, because it is difficult to explain just how horrible it was to be in a relationship with the narcissist, and my friends have been nowhere near having similar experiences. Moreover, I don't want to "ruin the mood" all the time, so I often don't talk about it even though I feel like bursting because my whole brain is filled with painful memories and thoughts.
I feel for you because I know what u mean I am going through that now.....😓
Let's heal together
So true
Hey there , I know you you donot want to feel like a burden to your friends, I feel that but the type of friends you described,they are probably waiting for you to open your hearts out to them and giving you space .... so you come to them and share by your own.... those are gems..... DONOT feel this way ,your friends would love for you to open all out and share with them, trust me... there are good people out there !!! Much love
Some people, even close family and friends, do not always understand the toxicity in these types of relationships. The common advice to 'just get over it' can be so hurtful and in many cases further devaluing.. Most are familiar with amicable separations and are not prepared to see the difference.
Nanna Moo sometimes is best to keep your family & closest friends out if it... Trust that if they cared enough they would had been paying a little more attention & would had let you know that they are there for you in good & bad times... I learned this lesson when i was in my late teens & later on the picture got even clearer. My family all hold their own 💩 so i really had to learn to strap my boots up on my own like a soldier for battle.
I completely agree. My daughter is at least a social worker PhD candidate. Her sister was a narcissist and as both mother and daughter, I was the scapegoat. I had figured this out but was not prepared at all for my ex to be one too. Denial + him being an extra smart, covert and experienced liar. My parents are both dead but a comment by the daughter I speak to made me start thinking about my (adopted) father who I had always felt was a selfish, somewhat misogynist man of his generation...you know, "The Greatest" one. Now more things are falling into place. This is a long hard journey for all of us. Even my therapist really had no clue. TH-cam held the answers, the questions and the acceptance that was nowhere else to be found.
isn't it a shame that when we seek advice from all sorts of so called "support' organisations and therapists they make NO referrals to other support avenues. They have loads of empathy but no practical solutions for the very many lonely people struggling to cope with this type of abuse. I let them all know about the resources I have found, in the hope that they will share. I am so pleased you have the support of your daughter. In my initial search for help I discovered many channels that were negative and degrading which was even more distressing and draining. Michelle's channel and others are a God sent gift. May all be going well for you. x
Nanna Moo that is SUCH a truthful statement! I find, that many people absolutely refuse to believe the situation could be “that bad”.they assume that you are “over exaggerating”, and if it was REALLY “that bad” you would have left. It is very frustrating and devaluing....
You must be cautious about what you say, as the other thing that people ask is "What did you do that made it that bad?. No insight at all!!!! It is important to mention the actions or inconsistencies in behaviours with NO labels. Hope you have the ability to set yourself free.
I remember. I never was allowed to be sick or tired... never... until I come to hospital. Never be good enought... I mustn't drive a car or visit my family or friends. Year by year I were more separate. I never could spent money without asking him and he was the only one who bought my stuff. Now I don't wondering that I spent too much money... I'm free and enjoy it so much. My past hurts.
I was caring for my partents when i myself were sick its really sick just another memory put in place
Àbsolutely true.I discovered that I ceased to exist.I don't know how to exist again...but I know I once existed and I shall exist once again.
My children have watched me struggle and try to come back from the Abuse... sometimes good and often not so good. At 63 I feel broken when I was discarded at 58. No jobs for old women yet the Court told me to get a job at minimum wages... he snickered. I am so alone in recovery, if there is any such thing. My story is so long... B.C. for 18 years, kids with disabilities... NOT the picture of Success he imagined for himself. Sad.....
You wrote this a while ago so don't even know if you'll see this but I hope you are ok. I'm 58 and divorced my narc husband several years ago and feel awful, I feel broken, lonely, my brain has changed and I'm not the same person. One day I feel as though I'm moving forward, enthusiastic to try and meditate and think positive but the next I'm literally sobbing. It's a terrible thing. I understand what you're saying.
i m 63 also married to my covert narsicist wife for 40 years ...awoke for one year ...and because im broken physically emotionally, spiritually and financially im stuck.....having to live with her, separate everything...its sad living a fake marriage...but ive had 40 years of pratice.....its interesting or now i understand the torture being projected my way....the good thing is ...this year i have started to untangled myself from her...and leaving will b less hard i hope...
@@mreloo I feel you. Been awake about my malignant narc of 20 years... Understanding that EVERYTHING he did and said we're part of the game. My checklist is getting longer... But like you, I am stuck big time, he made sure of it. Never did my residency papers so I have to stay in the shadows... Find yourself, get stronger from the inside. It's hard, there's so many layers to this... Prayers to you. Just glad your eyes are opened. I can't believe I didn't find out about this sooner... But now: I know!😊
You are telling the truth
6:18 Wow. Thank you.
Thank you for voicing what we are going through. I really appreciate you making sense of the chaos in my head... Grateful 🙏
Took me 7 years to recover from a 3 year narc relationship
The Not It Factor I'm glad you did. How long did you stay in that rut?
Victoria Hills i had ptsd so it took a long time to recover
Oh God☹️I was in it for 5-only been weeks😳
The Not It Factor 6 years abuse relationship with a Narc i'm still recovering almost 2 years
How did you? Please tell me. It took 7 years but you eventually did right? Please tell me how :(
She has a real gift at explaining and teaching a real blessing to us all thank you michele x
Thank you, Michelle. You cover things so essential to a vital personality that it becomes an essential processor of everything else out there. Thank you and God bless.
Michelle you are sooo spot on!! Thank you for your giftS! great full student! -Blessings
Im scared of people i dont know who to trust anymore it sucks i feel sick and I'm starting to get sick again especially since ive seen him 3xs this week due to my girls birthdays. I left and discarded him but i cant grieve because im back with my narc family plus i have kids smh. Im trying to quit smoking i cut back tremendously but sometimes I get overwhelmed i only have God because i cant talk to my babies about it especially since he's their dad.
breebo013 I understand completely I hope you get away soon... you are brave for leaving and very smart knowing we have to grieve. And during healing a lot of us have vices. Smoking etc. It will pass when it does but I do find you very brave. Sending love and light your way!
Michelle Lee thank you so much for responding he keeps bothering me and it sucks because despite the abuse i still find myself thinking of him 😮. Its crazy i want to block him but my kids...
breebo013 The reason we think about narcissists is because they have caused so much distress in us. I have asked myself after breakups “why think about someone that’s not a good human” well that’s probably why. We can’t believe it. We don’t want to. I have a child with a narcissist and I feel you. I got away barely alive in 2011. Scared because he had me believing I was a horrible person I was so gutted. I then stayed on my healing path. Got into therapy to know myself again. Realized I’ve been an empath my whole life. And now I’m doing inner child healing. It’s hard. You are still in it and I am soooo sorry because I know the feelings of confusion and pain. I know you will find your way. We are stronger than we realize. No matter what is said to us by narcissists. They don’t want you to shine. They don’t want you happy. But there’s so many people... including strangers that only hope for your smile and light to shine bright. Hugs and love to you.
You are amazing Michelle... Thank you for being who you are... I am so grateful that you are helping us to understand what happened to us...
I suffered from insomnia for years after narc abuse. I had to take prescription sleeping pills in order to fall asleep. But then a doctor told me about a natural way to get some sleep. She said to download f.lux (it's a free application), and it will automatically dim your computer screen, allowing you to fall asleep naturally. It worked like a charm! It may not work for everyone, but it got me off those sleeping pills immediately, and now I fall asleep naturally. My problem was that my computer's blue light was stimulating my brain and causing me to stay awake at night. You can also wear blue light blocking glasses. But I found that a good night's sleep was what I needed to really heal myself.
Peace Joy ive been suffering from insomnia for 3 years because of the pain my narcissist ex has caused me. Ive got ptsd, etc, trying to fall asleep at night is so tough when all the memories play back like a movie in my mind.
Lisa Scott - I sympathize with you, and I've been there with my entire narcissistic family. But try downloading f.lux and see if it helps you.
Peace Joy Thanks ill try that
AA has predatory personalities in sober people...be aware! Some of us are sicker than others.
Peace Joy very thoughtful to share this information with us. Thanks!
Its weird how i always think my healing journey is over. But, depressingly its not. I still feel so many emotional and all and its just frustrating. I have a big sister that i have to deal with, she bullied me since I was 4, shes like that because I have a father who is a narcissist. she is healing too, but she still treats me bad. there is so much more, but I really dont wanna get into it, It just makes me wanna cry. Not trying to do a sad party here. But, I cant take this anymore.
Punah T I feel ya.. ..i just figured out why I have felt this way for so long!! I am in the midst of a smear campaign with what I thought was a good friend. Turn around and get little support from family. They are pretty comfortable with me in my little box. Quiet and content and without opinion. Amazing....
Mishna Murdy She is a narcissist, and its all because of my dad. Shes healing from what she has been threw too.
BP Archambault BIG question, what happends when you try to speed up the healing journey, or when you do speed up the healing journey. is it good or bad? I always debate with my self thinking i should get over it quickly or just take my time and let it go natural. Is there such thing is fastpast healing from abuse?
Hang in there friend. Some of us are rooting for you. :)
Paulina Salcedo Thanks :3
Thank you- so much to say... I’ve been connecting to coworkers since I’m still mostly isolated from family, friends, and church. But hopefully not for long.
My husband told me about a month ago or so that he accidentally deleted my photographs from his phone
Omg I now know why I am disconnected from myself & others . Thank you 😊 💓
I'll never be the same again after the pain my narcissist ex girlfriend put me through.
Lisa Scott was he with you when he wasn't with her or did he get involved with you while still being with her?
More than likely, he played you both against each other. That's what this maggot did to me & the girl he ran back to. He was trying to get us to fight physically. He knows my temper. He was trying to use me to accomplish his goal which was to get that girl hurt .. I saw a photo of her looked in her eyes & my gut feeling told me something wasn't right about his story. Later I met her. I invited over my home & she's a good woman. I felt real bad for bad for her. She's in her late 40's but she seems lost, naive, acts like an adolescent. He's in control of her mind. One day he refered to her as "she's my program!". My brain shook! He's an evil SOB all the way!!!
Lisa Scott I'll tell you what this maggot said to me when he continued trying to keep me hooked... He called me up one afternoon. His voice dropped like trying to speak. When i yelled & ' why the fk are you still calling SOB? ' he said " I want to posses your mind & soul! I'm going to buy you a ring as a symbol that your mine forever!" you can just imagine the 💩 that came out y mouth! Lol they are evil!!! & still, he said " so, when can we meet?" lol just reminds me of lucy & mina in the hands of Dracula------ the whole thing is so sick but i can laugh about it today.🌻😃
Victoria Hills to be honest, i have no idea if my ex was seeing others while she was with me. Its been almost a month since i finally went no contact. I hope she doesnt find a way to come back. Ive cut all contact.
You’re right like he’ll. Omg. I can’t believe this is true and I’m really not crazy. It was crazy environment around me from my child and I didn’t know nothing else so I started making my own cadge and didn’t even know about it. It’s crazy. I can’t believe.
This is very smartly presented. Thank you!
Whenever I try to talk to my mum about a big issue I’m upset about such as a family death she always twists the subject and says something like ‘are you upset because you failed that test’ , when I have literally just told her why I’m upset , I’m only 16 and she does it every time I try to talk to her . It’s really confusing and frustrating and me being upset and going to her for support always ends in a huge argument and me having a panic attack . She always says it’s because of another completely unrelated or untrue reason sometimes things I’ve never thought about before , a common one is “ is this because such and such (usually a close friend) doesn’t like you ?”.
I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to how I can stop this affecting me so much and ultimately stopping me from trusting others and thinking I’m dramatic and overreacting.
Mike Kelleher , I think you need to stop telling your mom about your feelings. She is not listening to you and is using your confiding in her to make you feel bad about yourself. You need to find another person to talk to. If she asks why you have stopped confiding in her just tell her something bland like, "I really like the weather today." Then tell her that she looks pretty in that color. If you refocus on her with a compliment, you can then escape the room quietly. It may be harsh to say, but sometimes we can't have open relationships with people in our family, even moms. It may be better to protect yourself than to seek support from them, because some people just can't give any.
My Mother is a Narcissist .. I finally figured that out at 43.
She has emotionally and financially abused Me for as long as I can remember.
I can not go to Her for Love, Support or to Feel Safe.
And The Pain of it is SO Great .. 💔
And I never truly knew my Father .. But I have been Blessed with a few Good a Friends.
My advice to You is ..
I hope you have trusted others you can reach out to for love and support .. if not a Good Counsellor may be of some help. Ask Someone you can trust.
As Danylle Chalcraft said in Her reply unfortunately some of Us Do Not have The Unconditional Love of a Parent or Family.
And Life is Hard and Full of Big Issues .. and 16 is Young and So Unsure 💛
I hope there is Some One Who can Guide and Support You.
Boundaries .. Be Gentle with a Your Self .. Trust in Your Self .. Value Your Self .. Grief, Loss and Acceptance and Resolution are a Process, Day by day.
And some times we may never have The Answer.
Try to Think about The Values that are Important to You .. What makes you Feel Safe, Happy .. What makes a You Dream.
I wish You Courage, Safe Passage, Love, Abundance and Joy 🐅😀🥇
It will take Years for me to Get OVER of what My Narcissist did to me .
I literally was not allowed to be sick. I was called lazy when I had Covid. Wow. That hit home.
Thank you again for all your video's!!
Riana van Zyl,hope you are not with a narcissist!
Thank you frome the bottom of my heart. You speak so eloquently. You are closing my gap and healing me. What you said I have always known whitin myself but because my environment never allowed myself to see as it is - I have been traumatized and never known the way out of it. Thank you yoz have put worda into my thoights and I will go on as a grounded person. You are amazing, because of you I want be trapped into my childhood experience and go on.,.
Michelle your a champion. You have helped me so much.
I get really cold tinggles everytime I watched your video can't breath and need to take break to continue watching so to learn and understand the situation..
I want to open up... to tell someone my story. But even if it’s a stranger.. I don’t know how to :( I feel
Trapped.
Jake Singh .. Just Start at The Beginning. Courage and Love of Self 🐅
Jake Singh all ears
Start here ❤
Just write it down
Mine as been 5 months now and i don't want to go out.but feel so much better .just rember we are good kind people and we deserve much better .everyone thinks my ex narcissist is so nice and perfect I want to scream .but I defo won't waste my breath .be strong we will all get there and be happy xxxx
My narcissist insists that I’m anxious when I’m not.
I am broken.
Cheryl Renzi .. Me Too.
Sending You Love and Light 🕊💛🌈
Good speak up thats the start of healing proces
I feel the same way. In my case I’m isolated from my friends, have no one to talk to. I can’t tell him how I feel or if he did something that hurt me because he twists my words around and tries to flip it to the point where I’m thinking I’m losing my mind. I don’t make enough but all of the bills are in my name so he has me trapped. Some times i feel he’s trying to cause me to snap so he can divorce me and take custody of our kid together. I have an older son just out of high school that lives with us. I have no family here. My mother lives far and she’s sickly with too many problems of her own. He knows this! So I feel he believes he has me cornered and there’s no way out. This pain is so much I don’t know how long I’ll be able to withstand
💯♥️ Everything was all about him, all day every day. They don't care about anyone else but themselves. They are very greedy. They are very needy. They use people like toilet tissue 😡........ I thank God for Michelle and these videos!👍 Her voice is like that of a teacher. She speaks perfectly. I don't feel offended by her content at all. I feel better about going through narcissistic abuse now that I understand because of Michelle what this thing is. I'm grateful that you are sharing this information 🙏❤️😊.......
This video is so SPOT ON! Thank you for another informative video! 💕💕😊
Thank you thank you thank you
Dear Michele. There are ppl who CANNOT be broken!!! Hypnosis n such are criminal activity. Coercion is.
What if you're completely alone? No family whatsoever, and severed relationships due to abandonment over a life-altering, ongoing physical health crises? I don't know who to trust. Even the "professionals" have let me down. I lose my temper all the time now and suicidal ideation has become a regular part of my life.
My strength comes from Jesus.... He is real and alive . He will help you.
I feel like I haven't been truly happy in a very long time
INCREDIBLE
This video is awesome girlfriend, this is really Good🙏✌👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Let me share this& fir those who have never heard l👀k up DBT
So true shit shit shit so glad I've found you ❤️
Absolutely. I’m always asked. Why do you talk so much to everyone? Because I like people.... I like to connect... ugh
My narc is a friend and things were fine until he begged to move in with me last year so it was hell on earth for 9 months until i made him move into a camper in my backyard, he's one of the kind who has to be in control of something and he basically thought he was going to move in and change how we run our house and he seen the first month that he wasn't running shit so for 9 months i had to deal with his shitty little attitudes and back handed comments and his crying,pouting and tantrums, constantly yelling at him for overstepping my boundaries, he's one of the worst because hed start to get all loud or mad or demanding,it only took me and my wife telling him off and calling him out and he'd fold right away and try to be all nice and on the 8th month, i went off him full throttle and screamed at him and told him anymore shit out of him and he's gone (long story short) and the 9th month he went into the camper, he's still annoying and a crybaby and he tries to showboat to me and gets so pissed because i dont respond the way he wants and though i showed him who runs the show in my house, i dont feel the same anymore, more introverted, more cynical, distant from others, less energy....i guess the battling and negative energy zapped me.
Really nailed it thanx for sharing
Verry good techniques thank you
ABSOLUTELY !!!!!!!!
Thank you 💖
One sure shot method of telling if person is narcissist is that, a narcissist will never have any long time or childhood friends and all his/her friends will be relatively new.
yay another video !
The only way I could describe my experience is to say that I got ate up, chewed up, and spit out. I didn't see any of it coming, back then. But now, I see I had more red flags waving around in front of me than Russia during the cold war. I know I needed counseling before this experience with the narc, but now I realize just how injured I actually am. I feel numb, a little disappointed (mostly in myself) but most notably with a deep sense of loss. The realization of the collateral damage after being in this relationship was tremendously tough. I lost a lot. I lost a relationship with my father, my relationship with my kids was almost severed completely, I'm just barely talking to my brothers again, and Im just barely starting to repair the relationship with my mom. It feels like the moments just after an accident or explosion, very disorienting and unsettling. I'm letting the smoke settle a bit. I guess at this point I just want to be alone and away from everybody. My heart goes out to others in the same boat. We all are seeking answers and peace.
That is so me right now, I hate it!!
Do you happen to have information regarding a friend helping another friend who I know is going thru this narcissistic nightmare. I wanna help her, but I don't know how...
They disconnect you from you.
You are amazing 💕💕💕
The biggest Challenge is making Friends n not isolating! Practicing Mindfulness & Yoga is One of the best things. Unfortunately My X had no choice but to get Healthy because he has cirrhosis of the liver. BioPoler n Alcholic. He's in Recovery & does Practice Meditation but he believes in many God's. We always Walked together but I'm thankful that I didn't commit to go to the same Gym, & it pissed him off. I tryed Supporting him in AA n Iv gone to many Al-Anon Meetings but I Stopped because I see him there. Codependent groups or Celebrate Recovery at a local church can Really help. It's a Christ centered program that works the 12 Steps for hurts habits n hangups. Taken from the books lives healing Choices n the Purpose Driven Life. Michelle Ur Beautiful & Smart & U don't even look old enough to have been in a Toxic Relationship for tat long. . I can Speak for Everyone that Were So Grateful for you. 😁
I experienced the 3 ways narcs break you for myself. My narc relationship went on for 12 years on and off.. it was hell hell an more hell. An the reason I didn't leave cuz I forgave like a fool and got trapped just to be abused more by my ex and flying smear clowns. I'm not the same man I use to be but I'm still a man and it jus takes time and alil searching and self repair
thank you
I'm so scared to date anyone anymore cus I've had more than one narcissist suck the life out of me and I'm not me anymore. Trying to find myself and work on my new trust issues. I used to be so trusting, bubbly, kind... I just want to be able to open up to someone again and I know I wint be able to for a long while yet still..
Lady Bunny,your pretty smile can make the news
Your amazing thank u💙😇..
I just yesterday, broke up with my narcissistic ex-girlfriend...it has been surreal watching all of these videos, because it's like she watched them all too and formed her personality, thoughts, and conversations around them all. She is definitely a somatic narcissist, then after being with me, would at times attempt - usually failing, which I used to think was cute - at being cerebral, and intellectual. I know it all came from her messed up - to put it lightly - childhood, but she was a pathological liar, most likely a sociopath, would steal anything and everything, cheated behind my back over half a dozen times, that I know of - that is why I ended it yesterday, when this all came to light, the reason I stayed so long is because of her daughter who I cherished as my own - would gaslight me constantly, and build me up to such heights I had never felt before, only to tear me down to an even smaller person than I was to begin with. All the while making it seem it was my fault always, she never apologized or took accountability for her actions, it was always someone else's fault. I lost all - I have none now - of my friends, who she either had sex with, or if they wouldn't and they'd warn me about her, I would defend her and cut them out of my life, with her encouraging it all the way. The worst part was - she knew this too - she had a daughter, I basically adopted from age 1 to 3, she called me Dad, spent five to six days out of the week with her, and loved and adored her like my own daughter. Now I feel as though my family is gone and destroyed and it was all just an elaborate lie and rouse on me, for my money, land, and everything I would give her. The sex was insanely amazing, but that was the only time I truly felt intimacy with her, then telling her that, she told me I had issues with sex and intimacy and needed help. I just feel so lost, and alone right now...I feel as though the last two years of my life have been a complete and utter lie and I don't know how to even begin to move on. Last night when I ended it and called her out on all of this, she cackled and said, I was the crazy one and abusive for being so angry - after she had beat the living shit out of me on three separate occasions before this, I had just had enough...thank god this was over the phone, or it most definitely would have been violent, with me trying to hold her back and block all her punches and kicks. I did and a part of me still does love her and I just don't know what to do...she told me she was pregnant, but I don't even know if it's my baby...should I try to have a family with her or can you ever love and be loved by a narcissist? I just need some serious advice. Thanks.
I just read and I hope by now this psychopath is out of your life and you are doing well. I went through the same thing and it takes time to heal. But you do heal.
Once I tried to behave and talk like the narcissistic sister back at her (that out desperation cause I didn’t knew anymore) so I did back at her exactly like she did to me always! Well.... I don’t recommend it to no one 🙈🙈👀
You shake my nerves and you rattle my brain
Too much love drives a man insane
You broke my will, oh what a thrill
Goodness gracious great balls of fire
Met a girl named daisy
She always drives me crazy
Womp bomp a lou bomp a womp bamboo!
I never thought the narc succeeded. Or will. I am
Fighting back. Hard. I had no relationship. Thanks anyway. I don't worry about the villains.
AA is for drinking not for abuse by a Narcissistic how would they help u?
She was making a comparison
Surviving when did u realize this Please
3 ways you break narcs.
Expose narcissistic wound
Expose them to the crowd
Bang bang
My family and friends cut me off because they didn't like him.
I am so fed up and sick of narcs f ing with me ! Walked on egg shells in my first marriage and father of my two kids! My first born son committed suicide. He left me for a so called Christian woman who was on her second marriage . Her holier than thou self's son joined the US Special forces at the beginning of the Afganastan/ Iraq war! Her demon son was trained in Psy Op's ! Her son was the same age as my son Travis. He visited Travis ( from North Carolina) the week my son Travis killed himself ! Those evil military ops teach the demons to persuade, coerce and change ! Charles Allen persuaded and coerced my son age 27 to buy a shot gun and blow his own brains out
I'm so sorry
10:25 Michele, Do u know of any support groups that focus on people w/ C-PTSD from growing up in an abusive cluster-B type family?
But could AA be an outlet for narcissistic supply. given the vulnerable nature of its members?
How do you connect with people again in a healthy way and without attracting a narcissists or any toxic people back into your life?
I have been raised by a narcissist. I am 57, and lived my entire life traumatized by my mother. She is 86 and she is in the early stages of dementia. But every bit as abusive. I have been married to 3 severely physically abusive husband. I have been divorced from the last one for 30 yrs. Yeah, I was running from one abusive situation to another. The last guy I dated, I was 34, tried to murder my son! I had a child. I took him with me and ran to keep him from being hurt. When he was six, I was 26, I left, not yet had divorced my 3rd husband, and went to school. I stabilized my son and I. I had estranged from my mother. My brother committed suicide, he was a Lutheran minister, but felt abandoned by God. My mother raised him and saw to it, that he kill himself. I felt obligated to her, being the only person she had left. She hadn’t changed, even after the 2 years I had gone no contact before then. Then, she retired! I couldnt’ get away from her! I’m a mental health professional but she was always showing up, throwing herself on the floor of my job... a mental health center!! She called the police and would tell them I was missing, they showed up on my job!! She is an absolute nightmare! Has me go get gas in her car, then reports her car stolen! In the meantime, thru all my running, staying in shelters, getting away for short periods of time, getting thru college,, achieving success, and raising an awesome successful son who is capable of love, understands everything we went thru, and still doesn’t blame me. I’ve been running my whole life. At 57...poverty is protecting me (hsg, fs...) I’m protected by there rules and standards. When she calls the police, or goes into my landlords office, my counselors office, everywhere, claiming I’m killing myself... just to get in my house. She has gone to work on 3 of my jobs, after I gave up my career. I went to AA. I was drinking too much, and I needed help. I needed to go where ppl liked me and focused on a Higher Power that would give us peace. Didn’t happen! Ppl hit on me and would call me relentlessly...13 stepping men. One of them brike in my house, and the other one was the one who tried to kill my son “because he didn’t understand our love”!! And those ppl followed from one meeting to another! Another one of them went to jail for stalking me...and was offering to pay ppl in jail to find me and tell him where I was... the hail alerted me! Then! He finds my mom. Goes to her house looking for me, and she plans an intervention on me...with him!! Support groups didn’t help me! I’m a sicko magnet. I’ve started meditating, as suggested, I started praying again, I’m actuvely working on forgiveness and self-love, but I’m lonley. The 2 friends, of 17 and 32 yrs, both died, the same year, 5 yrs ago. I want to get well, I “binge” watch videos, keep my meditation down to 2x a day, to avoid burnout, I get up, take walks, adopted a cat. I’m trying. But my only “friend” left has a history of beating me. He doesn’t anymore... but defining my friends as “they don’t beat me, and they’re nice to me sometimes” isn’t enough for me anymore. I have no money to speak of, and my doctors and counselors do just as you said...they want me to own responsibility for my reactions and understand SHE’s sick!! These videos are all I have! Are tgere any FREE online narcissistic abuse support groups! I don’t want to stay stuck in knowledge, anger and fear! I want to learn how to be myself ...HELL... who I am! And, I want friends that can’t touch me, but can understand me and share with me. I want to get back “out there” but more than not trusting other ppl, I don’t trust me! Do you have any suggestions of a group where we can share, like in a conversational way?
Our Creator is the one spirit that can help you. Pray and good luck friend.
Is there a way to submit a suspected narcissist for review? The monster has a TH-cam channel and seems to be completely unaware what he is.
Do it here, out him.
Pfsif Clovis Star is his main channel right now, but he has over 30. Approximately 2 per website. He uses those accounts to up vote his videos, and down vote people he is angry with.
It is written:
Therefore, beloved, being warned of this, beware lest ye fall into the error of the wicked, and fall from your affirmation. 2Peter’s 3-17
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7-15
"And I saw another angel fly in heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people. And he said with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour is come when he will judge; and worship the One who made heaven and earth, the sea and the springs of water. And another angel, a second, followed him, saying, The great Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that made all nations drink of the wine of her fornication. And another, a third angel, followed them, saying in a loud voice, If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he will drink of the wine of God's wrath, which is prepared pure in the cup of his wrath; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment shall be for ever and ever; and those who worship the beast and his image will have no rest day or night, or anyone who accepts the mark of his name. This requires the patience of the saints, those who keep God's commandments, and faith in Jesus ”(Rev. 14: 6-12). And yet, it is written: Fear God and repay Him Glory, for the hour of His judgment has come, and worship the One who made it heaven, earth, sea, and springs of water. ”- Revelation 14: 6, 7. It is written: John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. And he who rejects the gift of salvation is written: Revelation 14:10 He also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is prepared pure in the cup of His wrath, and will be tormented with fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb. And it is also written: For there is nothing secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.Luke 8:17. This world is going away and if you want to be saved, give glory to your Creator, repent! And this is the golden verse of the Bible:For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.John 3:16. Ecclesiastes 12 - 13.14Let us hear the end of the whole word: Fear God and keep His commandments, For this is all for man;14 For every hidden thing, God will bring to justice every deed, whether good or evil. Luke 6:31- And as you desire men to do unto you, so do ye to them. God bless you!
05:40 Medication?? you mentioned medication? Medication in the absolute best case can just alter your brainchemistry...but not hollistic you will be in the same bad shade...and degenerate from psychological stress.. Medication could be an alternative if you lost your streangh, for a mopth or two...but is never a long way solution..because its just symptom orientated... With a high green raw food diary you can set up your self to be able to release most of your inner demons.
Can someone please tell me if I will ever feel my emotions fully again. I left a physically abusive malignant narc exactly one month ago. I've started feeling glimmers of happiness and hope again, but they feel so flat. Like, I can't feel them as intensely or for as long as I did before. Is there any reassurance that my ability to feel will come back? Am I permanently flattened?
They will come back in time. you will be alright.
Explain why it is always a he, I have come out of several relationships with narcissistic women that are worse than bed this is why I hate these channels women do not consider other women as narcissist it blows by mind#!!!!!
Breathing are great but a drop in the ocean if you have clinical depression. Pills dont fix sadness. Pills helps for clinical depression.
Prayer will help you, and asking the higher power for help.
I think negative self talk is something hard to deal with. In therapy, she asked me to describe my negative self talk.
I felt ashamed and embarrassed that I got involved with him in the first place. Why I fell twice for his crocodile tears and BS apologies. Blah, blah, blah, shoulda coulda...
She recommended stopping that shit cold. Replace it with positives. Pride to have broken free. Smarter, wiser, for lessons learned. Listing your positive qualities that, despite his best efforts, he couldn't take away.
Narcs do a lot of damage, but we're strong and we can heal.
Marry me, Michele. I'm serious.
On the topic of trauma Bond. My Question is:we kept getting into fights. And it got to the point that the fight would be her fighting me and then me fighting her. And then a little love making. This is in a two year relationship at the end of our two year relationship, 2 months of that we got married, she got locked up put into jail. I got her out and then she left me again. I guess my question would be. If I am physically abusing her (& only twice I have done this) & she is physically ,spiritually ,emotionally financially abusing me. Would she have a trauma Bond as well being a narcissist? And due to the fact that she did a final discard to me, stating that she didn't ever want to see me again or be around me. Is there a chance that she will try to contact me or love bomb me as well? And I'm not stating that fighting her those two times is right, but it's like I felt and anger come over me. And then of course we made love😈😟😫
when you physically abuse and narcissist?
Still in 13 yr he says hell leave me never gping 2 marry me crazy not good enough.. Makes me want 2 die. Know him since 12 so 20 yrs and i just want it to all be ok we bought a house half half my name he didnt put on the deed. I dont drive so he uses that. All my family died in 5 yr period mom sep 2017. We moved from nyc to border of maine canda no where.. And its just the darkest days i havent even be able to grasp my moms and family deaths .. He tells me im pathetic loser cause im not working for the moment. He spits on me throws tea water on me. Calls his moms and talks bad about me 2 her. And im trapped i will lose everything inculding the truck i bought that he drives. I feel like i want 2 die.. Hes my bff 20 yr and gusband 13. I just want w be happy w him. I feel like i want 2 die alot from all the turmoil .. I just try 2 please him but im never good enough:( why why..Im not perfect but i know sonething is wrong. He says i abuse him. I just finally am braking and even being mean like him its changing me and im scared im really broken ..
Online support groups are dominated by women and a lot of man hating and male abuse assumption is commonplace. Support groups also tend to have people giving horrible advice, and are hearing only one side to a story. I think support groups are the WORST thing for anyone, esp women because there are so many other female enablers there.
David Yisrael Had found the same initially. Many support groups are nasty and degrading mostly. Finally however found the Dad Surviving Divorce Support Group which is uplifting and supportive. He has a secret face book group. It has an almost equal gender split. Duane Roberts has helped so many of us. Don't know how I would have fared orherwise nor without Michelle's great calm and wisdom. Wishing you all the best. X
Thats great to hear. Good luck to you.
Ive thought of it but the issue is men tend to stay silent and arent as proactive as women are, which is why most of these groups are so dominated by women.
David Yisrael I worry some in the support groups are narcissists. I also wish it wasn’t gender bias because NPD isn’t gender specific. Empty souls are within any gender race etc. I think there should just be a site with people trying to find their tribe who know what this insanity feels like and wants to heal and help. 🧚🏻♀️
Yoga is a horrible idea.
I sense that these vids are to keep us entangled n shunned.....?Not beneficial. I'm out. ☔️ Empaths empower themselves.....
Boring
I have had a very bad narcissistic abuse by a false twin.. Soul connection.. N thus it's been really damaging to me at the core. I'm shattered into pieces and feel like no one will ever love me n no one would care about me because I don't deserve love and sympathy cuz I feel like I'm a bad person. N i did feel like I was the narcissist in the end. It's been such an awful tricky situation man. I used to respect him so much and still love him.. N worshipped him like a God in my heart. I'm so lost now.. I don't know who I am or what my interests are anymore Cuz anything i did was ridiculed or criticized. So I have major self worth issues now. The sad part is that he was the only one who ever truly paid attention and showed affection to me.