The Secrets Of The Glen Waverley Line
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- Melbourne’s Glen Waverley Line was first opened in 1890, was extended in 1930 and is one of the busiest lines on the map.
Link To 1890 Newspaper Article: trove.nla.gov....
Thank you very much for watching!
Sorry for not posting in a while, lots of filming, not much editing!
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Congrats ! Train Man is a growing great venue for rail history buffs. Re the developmental and operational stages of the Glen Waverley line it is interesting to note that the Glen Waverley line terminus was only a single track, serviced by a single swing door spark carriage which terminated at the East Malvern station where passengers from the Glen Waverley line alighted to board the awaiting Flinders St train service. Later into the night it was not uncommon for a particular driver from Mt Waverley to pull the single carriage up at the ends of streets to allow locals to climb down at their street. This driver communication was accessed via the first door of the single carriage which was either entry to the guards van area/section or the other end which was driver only.
BTW are you contemplating devoting your unique style to the abandoned VR lines too ?
Keep up the good work. Cheer, Dean, ex Mt Waverley
Loads of amazing facts Ian! When did the late night Mount Waverley Service occur? Really happy that you like the content! To answer your question on abandoned VR, I think that I have lots of content to still do on the metropoliton system, however, I will look into it as the content for that get smaller. As a Glen Waverley Line person myself, It's awesome to see that there is so much history into the line, it can't fit into one video! Hope to hear from you again!
@@the_train_man I forgot to mention that the outer circle is still visible in Hughsdale/Murumbeena area. Have a look in a Melway street directory or Google it, you will see the land alignments for the original rail corridor
My father experienced the personalised drop off in the period from early 1950's until the line was duplicated which from memory was around 1960
As kids we were chased by the station masters' at Syndal and Jordanville as we rode our bikes across those towering bridges. To be clear the only place to ride across was on the signal communication conduit. It was asbestos of course and secondly, remarkably it was only 150mm wide. There were no safety rails or fences then. These have long gone
Wow, the adventures that we may never see again (or at least legally), very gutsy to ride along such narrow paths, and your dad was a very lucky guy to have the personalised drop off! Interesting to hear about the Outer Circle Line, I have made a video on it if you haven't checked it out already!
Haven’t seen anything like this about Melbourne before! Great job! It is indeed quite an interesting line and is quite amazing to see how much has changed at Glen Waverley.
Before this video, I didnt know the tranformation the Glen Waverley Line has taken! Glad you enjoyed!
Hey. Great to see a young man take an interest in the Melbournensuburban railways. As an old train fan, I remember riding the nGlen Waverley line in the early 60's. Keep ip the enthusiasm. Well done.
Love the before and after photos, keep up the great work Max!
Thank you Kimpten, appreciate the support!
I know where Richmond Park station was located. It was located around 50 metres north of the railway bridge just outside Burnley Gardens as it used to be known. You'll find two gates from where the University is know (Burnley Gardens) which were used to access the station.
Obviously there is numerous sidings there now but up until the mid 1970s there was one siding on the north east side of the two Glen Waverley lines.
The current railway bridge was rebuilt in the early 70s as there used to be an old wooden trestle bridge before it.
Mt memories of the Glen Waverly line: Thri' Electric train services used to terminate at East Malvern, and a waiting swing door ABM single car, used to provide a shuttle service to Glen Waverley. this connecting shuttle train, used a dead end dock road off the main line, situated behind the existing Up platform.
I was involved in the duplication works on the line in the early 60's. The current Up line is the original line, with the duplication adding the new down line.
The line was operated under the train staff & ticket, with Mount Waverley being opened as a temporary staff station during the peak periods, when limited thru' trains ran. That is why Mount Waverley today has a wide gap between running lines. With single line and Lever locking & track control in force on the Burnley end, and crossing stations at Heyington, Taronga, and Glen Iris, (double wire equipment installed here) the rest of the line was operated under the Train Staff & ticket rules when it was single line, and 3 position colour light signalling once the duplication was implemented.
The duplication works involved a new station (the current one) being built at Glen Waverley, The original station building was a wooden affair situated a little closer to Springvale road, in the now car park before the station, with rail access from what is now the back platform. This connection was removed when the new station was commissioned.
One Saturday evening, whist a Fireman on J 549, on one of the ballast trains laying the new down , line, we were required to do a ballast discharge on the severe 1 in 30 drop into Syndal station at 6 6MH (4 MPH). This request was impossible to achieve on the severe down grade, and the whole thing came ti an eventual stop over Blackburn road, discharging ballast on to passing cars
underneath. Workmen were on the side of the NN ballast wagons, trying frantically to shut the
bottom hopper doors. The required discharge was eventually achieved by doing it in a reverse
direction, which was probably how it should have been done in the first instance.
The former station buildings remained in position for many years on the Up side of the line before their removal in the mid to late 60's.
No relation to the Jordanville Jordans, but Syndal was my stomping ground. Keep up the very informative videos. Well done!
The first single line station at Glen Waverley was erected to the east where central parking area exists next to Springvale Road.
The station and platform was moved west about 300 metres to its present location near Kingsway to accomodate two lines.
Some years on two siding lines were added.
Enjoying your videos.
The most unusual Incident that happened to me on the Glen Waverley line, occurred during the running of a weedex spray train with a T class loco' early one Sunday morning. The Signalman at Kooyong attended at that location at his normal time, which considerably delayed the weedex special that I was running. We ran to Glen Waverley as directed on the S circular, leaving the train at the Glen Waverley home signal and returned to Darling light engine to complete the run round move. As Darling was approached on the light engine T class, the first down suburban train, a 2 car Tait set was passed, we now had a serious problem, as the Tait set was now going to be between the T class and the weedex special sitting at the Glen Waverley home signal. I immediately presented myself to the Darling signal box. to inform him of the problem. The light engine T class departed Darling for Glen Waverly in a down direction. On arrival back at the train at the Glen Waverley home arrival signal, the 2 car Tait set (M & D) was sitting at the rear of the weedex special. This Tait set had different couplings than the weedex train & could not couple to it. A transition screw to auto coupling was attempted but immediately was crushed, when attempting to propell the weedex train into the back platform track. Another transition coupling was tried and this time the move was successful in getting the train into the back platform. Once the Tait set had vacated the track and went back into No 1 road, we re-attached the T class to the train. This incident had the Glen Waverley line blocked for hours, Until the problem was solved, all down trains were terminated at Darling. This incident took place in April 1971.
Well done young man. Congrats.
Thank you very much Deb, I appreciate the support!
great video, all ur videos are really good, exited for the next video. Really interesting facts about the Glen Waverley line, i didnt know many of these facts.
i live that line , nice ro seee abit of history.
Thanks very much, glad you learnt something!
Thank you for a very interesting video
No worries Paul, glad you enjoyed!
My home line. Great video
Same here, glad you enjoyed!
@@the_train_man And after all those years of travelling on it, I still had no idea there was a Toorak Road or Richmond Park Stations. Thanks for the enlightenment.
No problem, hope to hear from you in the future!
Richmond Park station use built on what is now Burnley golf course. Back then the Burnley sidings couldn't hold 12 three cars but I imagine the station was built somewhere between Herrington Bridge and Burnley sidings. Theres nothing to really tell where exactly the station was placed.
Love your work kid.. great stuff! 💥
Thanks again Dave, I see you going on a bit of a Train Man marathon!
Great content 👍🏻
Well Done Again Train Man!🙂🚇🛤️
Jordanville station stands on land that was once part of Riversdale Golf club where the clubhouse is the former home of the judge that gave the death sentence to Ned Kelly, Sir Redmond Barry.
In 1924 the Club purchased Barry's St John’s Wood Estate and built the golf course. However, the original course was bisected by the new railway line in 1930 & the club lost land from Jordanville station towards Mt Waverley. The noted course architect Alex Russell redesigned the course north of the rail line.
Wow - I love the history.
Me too haha, thanks mate
Loving the channel and videos mate! Keep up the great work
Thanks very much Adam, hopefully I’ll post more frequently!
I attended St Kevin’s - it was nice having our own platform. But it’s unfortunate that it’s not accessible. I’ve wondered why they don’t install an elevator like at some premium stations that could somehow meet the footbridge. It’s also a dangerous station due to the tight curve. Nice videos! Maybe do a road trip and explore the old Noojee line one day.
The Noojee line is something I would love to explore one day. Heyington is the only station with no wheelchair access, which is a shame I agree, pretty steep to street level though, need a pretty good engineer to allow wheelchairs down there. Happy to hear the enjoyed :)
@@the_train_man The noojee line has been done. Check out "Run the line"by Beau Miles.
Another great doco!
Glad you liked it!
Nice work Train Man. Any chance of an updated video with more stats on each station - like you did with the Belgrave/Lilydale lines?
Very true Josh, the stats of the line weren't put in the video aha.
Glen 1 693 000
Syndal 899 000
Mount 820 000
Jordy 499 000
Holmesglen 531 000
East Malvern 481 000
Darling 361 000
Glen Iris 330 000
Gardiner 491 000
Tooronga 580 000
Kooyong 345 000
Heyington 219 000
Burnley 865 000
there you go :)
Great job! I think this goes the highlight just how delaptated our stations are. The platforms are a joke, anything can roll towards the tracks.
Excellent
Great video, lots of history I never knew about - and I've lived on this line for most of my life! Can I ask where you got the b&w photo of Glen Iris station from? When I was young the freeway didn't exist and there were a group of shops opposite the station so I'd love to find more photos of GI station from that time. Thanks, Gerry
Hey Gerry, happy to hear to like the video! You can get the Glen Iris photo and many more at prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/photographs-and-film/public-transport-photo-collection just scroll down to the green box and type in Glen Iris. Thanks and don't forget to subscribe!
I was in one of the front cariages when it was hit from behind at Syndal station on 20 November 1989. There was a problem with the sliding door of the front carriage so driver was taking a look when the 2nd train came round the bend into the back of our train. The driver of the 2nd train jumped out onto the platform seconds before the crash. Many people at the front of 2nd train & back of 1st train were hurt.
I was in the front carriage when it was jolted forward beyond the platform so we had to go to the back to get out. My jaw got a whack when I was thrown into the head of the girl in front of me.
The real drama happened after the crash when dazed passengers exited our train onto the platform then jumped down onto the 2nd track just as a train came down the hill from Mt Waverley with its horn blaring at all the people on the track. It would have been carnage if the train driver had not been able to stop in time.
Anyway, that is not why I am watching this video. I am trying to find out what type of trains ran on the Glen Waverley line in December 1965 when 18 year old Maureen Ferrari was murdered by child rapist & murderer, Keith Ryrie, after getting off at Holmesglen station. There were blue Harris teains around at that time but I don't know if they ran on the GLW line in 1965.
Very early in the planning of this line they named the then planned terminus 'Black Flats'. The last 10 kms or so of the planned line was re-routed to what we know now.
Really enjoyed this! I grew up in GW, and used to “hang out” at GW station as a rebellious teenager. Also very impressed with your presenting style. I suspect we’ll see you on tv in the future - keep up the great work!
Haha, great to hear you made memories at GW. Glad you like the style, maybe you will see me on TV one day, who knows🤷♂️. Thanks for the kind words 😊
Ahh, smoking and kissing girls at the old bus stop opposite the train station at GW.
Kingsway being deserted after 1pm Saturday and all day Sunday. What memories, motorbikes at Red dam, bmx behind Brandon Park tech, sheep across the road from Brandon Park next to the football ground.
I grew up near the police academy.
Simpler times.
@The Train Man , HI DUDE HOWS THE SPRINGVALE CEMERTY LINE AND MORNINGTON LINE FROM BAXTER AND THE OUTER CIRCLE LINE GOING HOW LONG I CSEE NEXT VID. PS GREAT VIDS KEEP THEM COMMING
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The Train Man , can u also do a history of the St Kilda line,port melbourne lines as well
100% doing both of those, Port Melbourne will be my next video
@@the_train_man HEY DUDE THANKS. did u get the info about richmon park station
@@the_train_man have a look at this mapper.acme.com/?ll=-37.83,145.020278&z=15&t=M&marker0=-37.83,145.020278,Richmond%20Park%20railway%20station
The "Richmond Park" was located outside just before where the Burnley train Stablings are now, Just Before the crosssovers and Level crossing on Madden Grove (@ 6.144? KM mark) I think that ANY sign of it is long gone... And being there only Two months, I think it would be very hard to see anything left by it.
When the extension to Glen Waverely was built in the late 1920s the original station site was right next to Springvale Road in the area that is now open car parking between Springvale Road and Kingsway (the latter road did not exist back then) and was accompanied by this brick traction substation, similar in design to one at Coburg built around the same time:
www.flickr.com/photos/monlib/48345464556
As Glen Waverley became part of the suburbs they moved the station back to its present site in 1963 to allow for the shopping strip and car parking to be built.
That's awesome, a great photo aswell. I vaguely knew of the different spots that the station has been located but, thank you for the extra information, I was unaware of it's actually original position. Thanks again!
@The Train Man , HEY LITTLE dude , hows the port melb,st.kilda,outer circle going ? have you stated , also can you do outer circle line , spring vale cemtery line , mornington line as well
did u get the info on richmond park station. please reswpond.
Hey Bradley, sorry been busy making a Port Melbourne Video. I am looking forward to doing ALL of the videos you have mentioned here and have started on more than half of them! Good to hear from you!
@@the_train_man thanks for shout out much appricated keep the good worglk, of what u doing.
@@the_train_man ps ... when can i see them ?
I think that Richmond park was located between the Monash freeway bridge and the madden grove level crossing. I’m just guessing
Nice vid mate 👌
Cheers Chief :), your vid is great
There are no crossovers on the Glen Waverley line, when the VR ran the Weedex train, they sent a light engine after it to pull out the train from the terminus.Nowadays weed killing is done from HiRails.
That is a pretty cool fact Daryl, I had no idea of the Weedex train and how it was transported, thank you for sharing!
3:39 the only remnant of toorak road station is that signal to the right the only remnant
Thanks for the information Lachlan, hope you liked the video!
Keen for a vid on the outer circle
Hey Fitzy, my latest video is on the outer circle line, so go check that out!
great vdieo
Thanks Chinnychongas 😊
Can you do the Werribee and Frankston lines next thanks
Of course, Definately up the list as I can make them in Quarantine
you missed east Richmond - fav part of taking a glen train
Ah yes, I was annoyed at myself for that one, don't worry it'll be apart of the Belgrave Line video!
You can’t remember everything
Interesting, you should get onto metro the must have some of the stiff you are looking for
What’s the next video gonna be?
Richmond Station, maybe not this week, we will see!
@The Train Man , hey dude , greate vid, i live on that line . can you do a lesson on princess bridge stATION and outer circle line.
Hey Bradley, will be doing an Outer Circle Line Video, I’ve already filmed it so you might see it soon. I have done a Princes Bridge Station already so feel free to check that out aswell!
@@the_train_man thanks dude , could u do the mornington line
i rember the syndal crash in 2000 i just missed that train luckly i didnt get it. got the next one .
For sure I will do a Mornington Line Video, it’s very interesting.
Well done Train Man. I have seen a couple of your videos and look forward to seeing more. I have several older Glen Waverley line photos if you would like to contact me, Michael D Sainsbery.
Thank you Mike, great to hear you are enjoying :). As a Glen Waverley Line resident I would love some old photos, my email is on the description if you would like to get in touch. Thanks!
Mildura station look now coming
Had a quick look Samuel, very interesting station, although it is quite a long way away, so might be a video that I will do in the future, thanks for the suggestion though!
*orange juice station
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