The idea of tipping devs is such a management dream. They already under pay many devs, but now, they want the responsibility for fair pay to fall on the consumer. Heaven forbit they take a pay cut to pay their devs a living wage with job security.
6:20 - Appreciate Russ' perspective but AAA refers to the budget and larger budgets usually have additional studios and marketing as a result of more complex concept. So development is a key aspect since budget is tied to design and it's hard to separate one from the other. That's with well intentioned and thoughtfully planned projects. Not the ones that continue to balloon budgets and underdeliver. I agree that a smaller studio can partner with a larger studio for distribution and release an indie. All of this complicated when customers state they are willing to pirate AAA but will pay for indies. Sometimes that line is blurry. Ideally, having AAA, mid sized and smaller indie games are the best option for a healthy market. *Sorry don't mean to be uber pedantic but there are some issues with the FPGBC kit over original hardware - lack of IR port, some hardware incompatibilities, link port issues - some of which Russ discussed in his review touched on briefly here and hopefully will be addressed with future software revisions. Lack of an IR port is a hardware problem and that will require a new board revision. So it's this weird middle ground right now where people who want authentic hardware aren't quite getting that experience but the cost is so much cheaper than OG hardware + mod kit, maybe most don't care. It's a weird middle ground niche at least until the kit is updated to match OG hardware.
Russ I do wanna clarify, I was one of the people bringing out the info about this being stolen but I do wanna say I don’t mean to sound like I was attacking you or saying you supported the theft! You’re awesome, so apologies if it came out wrong.
Drinking game idea, every time Russ says "Whatever" take a swig! Been playing Horizon Zero Dawn lately and having an absolute blast with it Thanks for always making the podcast enjoyable every episode!
I would either buy no ubisoft games anymore (which I usually do rarely anyway cause I don't like their games mostly) till the company learns that gamers want to keep their games. Or buy their games only very cheap in a sale.
Ubisoft isn't alone in this. But for games. They run on a service license, not a perpetual license. I know people don't necessarily agree with the legal standing. This can really only be changed via legislation. Ironically, providing the arguments that maybe gamers should fund lobbyist for legislative changes instead of say paying YUZU devs monthly and relying on websites that can be shut down at any moment will only net you a negative response from the community
The base building was the best part of fallout 4... making some beds and some shops going out doing missions coming back and see more people show up made me feel like a very important person in this world was a vault dweller is supposed to be.
That tweet about the White Sega Saturn doesn't mention "mini" at all, and the scale of the controller and console looks like the standard Saturn White console, released in Japan in 1997. But 2024 is the 30th anniversary of the Saturn debut, so Sega may indeed be up to something, hopefully an announcement for a mini console
Removing a game from someone's library and ending servers without allowing anyone to make their own server isn't cool. It's like a toddler screaming MINE and taking it from you for the sole reason, if they can't get anything from it neither can you even though they said you could have it.
The DLC discussion brings me back to Resident Evil 5 Versus Mode. I had very little money ever in high school and I spent some of it on that DLC, only to realize it was kilobytes in size. Looked it up and learned it was basically just a key to unlock a mode that was already on the disc when I bought it. I had a lot of fun with that mode, but I was still mad.
@drew1921 Right. DLC is supposed to be new content that is made after the game is already complete and released, or at the very least can't be finished before the game needs to go gold and release. If it is already on the disc before it's sealed in the case, that's just part of the game. The audacity for them to charge extra for it is insane and my gullibility to buy it sucks too.
Playing the Saboteur on the deck , a 15 year old game . Way more engaging than the AAA dross . We need AA games like A Plague Tale 1+2 Two great titles.
@@Leopardeye it really is. With all maxed out, solid 60 and more than 5 hours battery life with the old Deck. Kinda sleep ont it when it released back then.
@@cocobos There are SO MANY games we sleep on then try on Steam deck and it brings them to life. 😂 Current favorite console. And I love this channel for always recommending bangers. Like Aperture Desk job (free deck demo) uses every single function of the deck. The gyro, each button, it’s like a deep dive into the console. It needs a full game. Try it, sometime, if you haven’t. 😊😄
@@cocobos Nor did I!! Until they talked about it a couple videos back. It’s basically Astros Playroom (ps5), but for Steam Deck! And it’s so much fun to just feel the full experience of the Steam deck! Games are never modified SPECIFICALLY for deck. Verified games run well on it. But I’m telling you, this game was MADE for it. 😆
98% of my steam deck games are indie games and I love them on it. Just got Turbo Kid, a lovely little metroidvania based off the awesome 80s throwback action scifi flick, highly recommend both
It's a difficult one because I don't think I can choose just one. I have my original Gameboy but the screen isn't as good as it used to be, so it would be nice having that screen ghost not so much. And it would be nice keeping my cardboard gameboy boxes which I didn't do back then. PlayStation one was the hardest retro consoles to keep in good condition though, so I might go with that. Not the console mind (that was sturdy), but the games themselves scratched ever so easily and I don't have a single surviving PS1 case because the plastic was brittle.
I recently just purchased a Japanese Sega Saturn and I love it. Would be an insta buy for me. Only thing that sucks is the cost of Saturn games right now are extremely high.
22:58 - So the company should have a fundraiser to see whether they should brick the game I bought from them? I'm sorry but that's really backwards. They should have a end of life plan for the customers who purchased their product. Edit - realized you came to a similar conclusion. 😅
Another great episode! To Russ' point of Hell Diver's, in the higher levels and versus Automatons you do shoot more, but I love the fact I can just jump in for 20 minutes then with no strings attached put it down and go cook dinner. I love games that are co-op, fun and don't demand a time sink. Plus at 47 I don't have my 12 year old's Fortnite style reflexes so it's bar of entry is set low.. Oh quick edit, if Xbox makes a handheld they will sell their 360 games for the hardware and that's why they are "preserving hardware"
Just wanted to mention there are a couple good TH-camrs who essentially have a biweekly "iii initiative" highlighting the best indie games for that week if anyone is interested in this sort of thing
I just installed New Vegas, and added like 70 mods. Then I had to uninstall all the mods and start activating one by one, and ended with 30+ mods. I'm having a blast with New Vegas RTX NSFW with CRT filters.
Another great podcast!.. I follow Russ with the Ubisoft thing. I'll just wait for the metacritic scores to settle in and then make a desision about if and when I will buy the game. A great game may be worth $100 but it has to be really good.
As a hard-core steam deck owner since 2023... I ended up buying 4 Fallout games on steam. I don't remember when and how but I can see them in my library. However, thd only fallout I've ever played was Fallout: New Vegas on PS3 which I adore... that said glad to know that New Vegas is the one I should play 😂
23:09 thats a cool idea, how about like a sale on their store : "buy one of our new games + this extra tip to help save the servers" or something so its not just give money and thats it. they will probably be happy boosting something newer too eddit: or like a skin, "buy this bundle to help save the server and get a skin for one or our newer games" so their incentive is to get you to try one of their other games hopping you fall in love with that and forget the old one so they can close it later lol
I've heard that there's a Deadpool videogame on steam that got delisted and costs a mint for a usable key. I don't even know if it's good but i probably would have bought it for a few bucks. Now, ill never know if i ever wanted it because i can't even try it out. Emulation it is.
Interesting topics guys. I’m listening to the audio podcast as we speak. 😂 Nice to know others buy a game and don’t even try it for a while. I bought Scarlet Nexus on sale like a month ago and haven’t played it yet. Also Russ, I get you on new companies taking a game and it not feeling the same. I loved Little Big Planet up until 3. Did not enjoy 3 at all and I can’t explain why. I can feel the difference. 😂 One last thing!! You guys mentioned the Rugrats game! I saw Bob's video on that! I'm waiting to try the demo! Such nostalgic SNES vibes from that game. I love it! Its about time light is shined on something other than old Spongebob games. Like Rugrats, Danny Phantom, Jimmy Neutron. Lol
@@baggedapplesgaming3207 Right! I don’t dislike 3, by any means. But the story isn’t engaging anymore. Something definitely felt different. When I found out it was developed by another company, that explained it. Lbp 1, 2, psp AND vita were all just loads of fun. 3 was meh, to me. 😂
AAA games are good if they put money in the right spots. my fav game is planetside 2 which is an AAA 2012 game from Sony. it was the most ambitious fps game at that time and it still is now, this is the true problem. it's easier to cook another assasin creed compared to create new and interesting ways to play, but a game like planetside (the only true MMOFPS around) simply can't be made by a small indie studio, especially in 2012.
@@NerdNest it was launched at the wrong time ... I would love them to re-launch it, just needs to change that cringy "hardcore" marketing they went way too heavy into
They were trying to get the hardcore WoW crowd, but that crowd isn't big enough to support a game, you need the filthy casuals as well. Because there are way more of us than there are hardcore.
Regarding fallout 4, you can ignore almost all of the base building quests. It's mostly the minutemen that make you do that and you can just leave and go explore the wasteland. You don't need to do what they want you to do for the main quest either, I'm pretty sure you could even just never go to the town where you rescue them and you'll find diamond city on your own and can continue with other factions. There's some minor base building you have to do at one point in the story, but it's fairly simple and quick. If base building is the reason you don't like fallout 4 I would really encourage you to give it another shot and just ignore that aspect of the game.
What. I play alot of tripleA games. Sure some are bad but also some are very good. Name it recently horizon forbidden west gow ragnarok elden ring spiderman 2 forza 5 GT7 FFVII rebirth. There are also many bad indie games now and before. Its a product. Like many other products some good some bad. Even since i played the nes not all the games i like.
the primary creator of fallout was obsidian (back then black isle studio) not bethesda. That part why people like new vegas more because it was closer to the original.
11:11 right. But there comes a time when people get fed up and decide to rebel against stuff. Perhaps this game was just the one that made people say, “this is BS. Stop this. “
Any game that is triple AAA with a “season pass” is not complete and should not be 70 dollars especially when it is primarily a single player experience
1:08:30 Over 9,000% I want a GBA-SP classic, hell they could even put a small screen on the bottom and add DS games if they wanted, I don’t want a DS classic unless the design is closer to a 2DS-XL (but smaller) I never considered them “pocketable” at least enough for me to want to lug one around all day. I took my SP everywhere.
I think on the perseverance online games a sub fee to gain access to all the games that got shutdown to keep them maintained and maybe update them in quality of life as now alot things on the cloud can size up or down what it's needs to run. Be a more of a non porfit company to keep cost down with tax benefits.
I'm with Russ on the tv show front. i prefer having everything at once, and watch it at my own pace. if i have to watch an episode a week i totally loose interest. i have dropped shows without even noticing i have dropped them simply because i forgot to watch the next episode and then 3 weeks later, i'm like "hey i was watching this, what the hell happened?" so if that is how a show is released i also wait for the whole season to come out. when i have all the episode, i watch one or two a day, depending on the show. sometimes i may watch like 5 or 6. sometime i may watch 1 episode a week. but it would be my choice and that would be the pace i chose. and not someone else.
Give Fallout 4 a chance, the town building is nice and fits into the world. Calling it Minecraft is very reductive and shows a lack of knowledge about it. Also its not necessary to do any town building if you don't want to, just treat it like Fallout 3 and ignore it if you really don't like it.
Tipping as a system of remuneration is awful. Not only does it enable abuse both by management and by customers, it is also usually taxed at a higher rate than base pay. If a company actually wanted to reward the hard work of their employees, they could offer residuals, stock options, or other revenue sharing schemes. Most companies seem to reward their devs hard work these days by laying them off after the main development phase is over, or by dumping the work of their fired colleagues on the few that are left.
There is a "ROM" that was given away free, and because they did that, the company created a sequel. Beneath a Steel Sky which was a SCUMM game, so not really a ROM. Because so many people emulated it with SCUMMVM, the created the sequel Beyond a Steel Sky.
If you wait six months to a year on a lot of these AAA games, you can get a patched-up version with all of the content released for 30%, 50% off, effectively training customers to NOT pre-order or buy games on day 1.
While I understand that Russ thinking indie is just a type of game, it is very very much not. Indie is independent, no or small publisher. It has everything to do with money. EA doesn't make indie games, for instance.
Square Enix needs to start releasing games on PC earlier and not only on Epic games at first. There are plenty of people will play and buy it once it hits steam. I cant justify spending the money on a console for only a few games. I spent enough on a PC already. I bought Ghosts of Tsushima the day after it hit Steam when I saw it there.
The one classic console I want is the original Game Boy. Same shape with fake games you can put in it, rechargeable battery, same poop green screen but backlit.
It so messed me, Fallout 3 & Bethesda were the new, not the original. Some of the New Vegas team were the OGs, so damn it is wild how Russ's reasons for not liking Fallout New Vegas, would be more true if he was a Fallout 1 &. 2 diehard. Both funny and frustrating to listen to that perspective.
Those are really bad sales figures for FF Rebirth. Console exclusivity may not have been a very smart move. Bill, I share your hope for the third installment, but I just really don't want to play FF Rebirth on console. I'm holding out for the PC release. Who knows, the Steam version might even surpass the PS5 edition in sales, just like we saw with Helldivers 2.
I have a monster 4090 pc and have way more fun playing emulation or indies on my deck/ally no word of a lie, the AAA gaming space has been pretty terrible for a long time, I should be looking forward to the next hellblade or battlefield or some shite but I’m not, I’m looking forward to manor lords and the next hades… indies are often the peak of gaming and it’s quite sad while at the same time pretty awesome and these small teams deserve all the credit they get.
@@NerdNest - That's precisely what I mean. Rating a game "AAA", or any other rating, for that matter, shouldn't have any basis in the amount of money spent on production. A billion dollar turd is still just a turd.
not being "allowed" to play your old games is pretty much the future trend, they dont want people playing old stuff they want people buying the next new thing, then the next and the next and the next. Popular old games impede sales of their new malware infested rubbish so they are just going to cull the old stuff any way they can.
Tbh you can also buy older games. Like games 3years old and older. You can get them for less than 10€, they are completely fixed with all the dlcs and stuff. I'm done with buying game year 1. There is so much to play. There is no need to play new games day one...
"Indie" over triple A all the way. I don't care about shallow blockbuster experiences with endless remakes as "sequels". I never have cared about shallow blockbuster experiences - they're usually incredibly short and flashy and rely on buying you off with your eyes rather than solid gameplay. I'm also someone who grew up on SNES, Genesis, Turbografx, and Playstation, none of which had triple A games. (They had "system sellers", which I guess might be the era's triple A.)
f**k the tipping devs idea and the dude who gave it. this is beyond stupid... "oh, man i really liked this game, how can i give them more money, i can't think of anything"... no, that is not how things work. as Russ said, you follow them for example. also you buy their next game, even if it's not something you personally enjoy that much (i have Shank and Shank 2 because i really like Klei, but i don't like shank as a game that much) or you know, you can buy a second copy of the game just for the sake of it, you can go buy a copy as a gift for a friend who is not completely sold on the game. there are many ways to do that. if they add this button, they will expect people to tip, which may lead to terrible things about the design of the game as well as the payment of the devs.
17:50 This is even worse than EA, when EA shut down their games, they just make it so you cant install them on a new computer(because activation servers are taken down) But to remove them from their library? Both are unacceptable, but Ubisoft should face the corporate death sentence. Heck games like Battlefield 2 still work great as long as you have the original computer, and while the game is still fun without online play, i am 99% sure there are 3rd party servers you can use to play online despite the install/activation servers being offline. But to steal the game from me just tells me i need to file criminal charges and never do business with these companies again I can totally understand shutting down online play services. But most games dont require online play to be fun. And the ones that require other people to make them good, then you dont have a good game, you have good friends.
@@NerdNest I really recommend it! Boss fights might seem intimidating but its more of a beautiful puzzle game than anything. Thanks for the continuous stream of high quality content.
Removing content from a game sounds like the crappy version of justice league & then we finally got the superior version in the Snyder Cut of Justice League! 🤔
I listen to this in my podcast app which I sometimes pause and unpause throughout the day while I work. Could you fine people mention the name of the game you're discussing a little more frequently? I think sometimes you'll quickly mention the game when you move on to a new topic, but then you'll mainly refer to it with pronouns, sometimes for several minutes. Can be tough to hop back into the conversation if I had to pause earlier, or even if I was a bit distracted by something when you first began discussing it.
If they want me to buy Rebirth they will need to release it on Steam. Already got the limited edition soundtrack collection for it though, so I'm definitely excited.
Riley's objection is somewhat disingenuous. Allegedly, he initially released it under the LGPL, an open source license that permits copying and modifying source code.
Nintendo would never do this. But why doesn't Nintendo have a launcher for PC. People love Nintendo on PC anyway. But you could sell NES game for 10 bucks and switch games for as much as 70 an it would be officially supported and preserving games. Brownie points and cash money for big N. They are just to stubborn to do it though.
Destiny 2 is a horribly preserved game, new content has overridden older expansions and older story missions are no longer available.... it's the main sticking point to why I can't being myself to go back to this game. It's an amazing playing game and I do love playing it but when I can't go back and play the original content through the new content it's immersion breaking.
I've given up of Final Fantacy. It's like they hate us orginal fans so why should I support games that's not made for me? I know SquareEnix still know how to make a great game (octopath traveler in Triangle strategies are good examples) However after seeing how they ruined FF7, I'm gonna pass on any FF in the future.
About the director's cut discourse...let me tell you... You both got this issue completely backward. Movies don't work like video games. Games normally have a general rhythm. The length (unless we are talking about completely linear experiences) is mostly set by the player. How much time do they want to spend in an area, if they want to endure some optional side missions, etc... In that case, "having more stuff" can be a mostly harmless addition, but it depends on the type of game. I certainly can think of some games that would have benefitted from having some sequences wholly cut out or shrunk down (The Last of Us Part II, for example). Movies, however, have to be really careful with their pacing. This is evident in how single cuts can completely change the mood of a scene and in how hard it is to manage a coherent sequence of events without screwing it up. You can't reduce a director's cut to "having more stuff". Sometimes, meandering too much with a story-beat can completely destroy your viewing experience. In fact, the best director's cuts normally don't add that much but try to balance the flow of the story in the right places (but that depends on how crazy the director actually is). I'm leaving out the instances where a "director's cut" title is thrown to the public as a completely fabricated marketing stunt. That said, I love your podcasts, but please...be careful when you touch these topics ;) PS: unfortunately taking out chunks of a videogame to sell them as dlcs is nothing new. I still remember the uproard for Asura's Wrath, Assassin's Creed 2 or Batman Arkham City. It just got normalized.
Big games with a fair business model getting more and more rare. But sorry - Indie never saved anything. It's a weird cluttered culture with way too many projects, a lot of trolling, a lack of quality filtering and they don't make AAA better. It's more like they keep on sucking in their own ways, instead of blending over to enhance the other segment. The best indies often are games that aimed for a commercial release and were forced to release it independently because of not fitting in any publishers portfolio. If I really want to play something wirh pixels etc. in 2024, I choose the originals. They were at least polished for their time and it usually shows in comparison.
Dear @NerdNest, your description of what happened to City of Heroes is so wholly inaccurate that it is profoundly insulting. There was no lawsuit and it was entirely the community that saved the game from the clutches of it's publisher, as it was being held hostage in an NCSoft broom closet for years! They finally granted us a license but let's be clear, NCSoft were never the good guys.
I never said they were the good guys, I said they did the right thing. As for the lack of lawsuit. I can’t be expected to remember every detail of every game. It was a conversation and I got part of it wrong. If that is insulting to you then I don’t know what to tell you.
@@NerdNest It's no biggie, although, you could say, sorry, let me read up on it. You were not being offensive and you can’t be expected to know everything about every game, it’s just that, as someone who lived through it, that recounting left a really bad taste in my mind. Imagine one of the worst experiences you've ever had, being recounted by your mom as though it wasn't a big deal, inaccurately and with no mention of blame going to those responsible for hurting you. Does that make sense? How about recounting the full City of Heroes story on a future episode? If you help bring in some new players, you're forgiven and absolved. Love the show!
I appreciate you guys putting on the show every week. Thanks!
Thank you for the support!
The idea of tipping devs is such a management dream. They already under pay many devs, but now, they want the responsibility for fair pay to fall on the consumer. Heaven forbit they take a pay cut to pay their devs a living wage with job security.
6:20 - Appreciate Russ' perspective but AAA refers to the budget and larger budgets usually have additional studios and marketing as a result of more complex concept. So development is a key aspect since budget is tied to design and it's hard to separate one from the other. That's with well intentioned and thoughtfully planned projects. Not the ones that continue to balloon budgets and underdeliver. I agree that a smaller studio can partner with a larger studio for distribution and release an indie. All of this complicated when customers state they are willing to pirate AAA but will pay for indies. Sometimes that line is blurry. Ideally, having AAA, mid sized and smaller indie games are the best option for a healthy market.
*Sorry don't mean to be uber pedantic but there are some issues with the FPGBC kit over original hardware - lack of IR port, some hardware incompatibilities, link port issues - some of which Russ discussed in his review touched on briefly here and hopefully will be addressed with future software revisions. Lack of an IR port is a hardware problem and that will require a new board revision. So it's this weird middle ground right now where people who want authentic hardware aren't quite getting that experience but the cost is so much cheaper than OG hardware + mod kit, maybe most don't care. It's a weird middle ground niche at least until the kit is updated to match OG hardware.
Russ I do wanna clarify, I was one of the people bringing out the info about this being stolen but I do wanna say I don’t mean to sound like I was attacking you or saying you supported the theft! You’re awesome, so apologies if it came out wrong.
100% all good, I didn't take it that way at all. I appreciate people letting me know -- that's what this community is for!
he totally blocked you, tho
@@IcoKirov lol nah Russ isn’t like that!
@@seanbrent4245 you can never be sure tho :D
@@IcoKirov well I’ll take him replying and liking my comments across other platforms as proof. It’s not a big deal man.
Drinking game idea, every time Russ says "Whatever" take a swig!
Been playing Horizon Zero Dawn lately and having an absolute blast with it
Thanks for always making the podcast enjoyable every episode!
I would either buy no ubisoft games anymore (which I usually do rarely anyway cause I don't like their games mostly) till the company learns that gamers want to keep their games. Or buy their games only very cheap in a sale.
Ubisoft isn't alone in this. But for games. They run on a service license, not a perpetual license. I know people don't necessarily agree with the legal standing. This can really only be changed via legislation. Ironically, providing the arguments that maybe gamers should fund lobbyist for legislative changes instead of say paying YUZU devs monthly and relying on websites that can be shut down at any moment will only net you a negative response from the community
What was your favorite game from the iii-Initiative presentation?
The base building was the best part of fallout 4... making some beds and some shops going out doing missions coming back and see more people show up made me feel like a very important person in this world was a vault dweller is supposed to be.
That tweet about the White Sega Saturn doesn't mention "mini" at all, and the scale of the controller and console looks like the standard Saturn White console, released in Japan in 1997. But 2024 is the 30th anniversary of the Saturn debut, so Sega may indeed be up to something, hopefully an announcement for a mini console
Removing a game from someone's library and ending servers without allowing anyone to make their own server isn't cool. It's like a toddler screaming MINE and taking it from you for the sole reason, if they can't get anything from it neither can you even though they said you could have it.
This is why I never buy live service games. Zero exceptions.
24:04 easy solution... Stop making/buying "games as a service" games (unless it is an MMO since they were build around that first)
Other "live service" games could go subscription based like WOW 🤷♂️
The DLC discussion brings me back to Resident Evil 5 Versus Mode. I had very little money ever in high school and I spent some of it on that DLC, only to realize it was kilobytes in size. Looked it up and learned it was basically just a key to unlock a mode that was already on the disc when I bought it. I had a lot of fun with that mode, but I was still mad.
@drew1921 Right. DLC is supposed to be new content that is made after the game is already complete and released, or at the very least can't be finished before the game needs to go gold and release. If it is already on the disc before it's sealed in the case, that's just part of the game. The audacity for them to charge extra for it is insane and my gullibility to buy it sucks too.
Playing the Saboteur on the deck , a 15 year old game . Way more engaging than the AAA dross . We need AA games like A Plague Tale 1+2 Two great titles.
@1:08:24 neo geo for sure. Some amazing arcade games on there. I think it was very much ahead of its time.
I just started Dishonored on Deck and I'm glued 😅
Ooooo I bet that’s fun on deck! I remember really enjoying that game!
@@Leopardeye it really is. With all maxed out, solid 60 and more than 5 hours battery life with the old Deck. Kinda sleep ont it when it released back then.
@@cocobos There are SO MANY games we sleep on then try on Steam deck and it brings them to life. 😂 Current favorite console. And I love this channel for always recommending bangers.
Like Aperture Desk job (free deck demo) uses every single function of the deck. The gyro, each button, it’s like a deep dive into the console. It needs a full game. Try it, sometime, if you haven’t. 😊😄
@@Leopardeye What?, I never know about this tech demo for Deck exist 😅
@@cocobos Nor did I!! Until they talked about it a couple videos back. It’s basically Astros Playroom (ps5), but for Steam Deck! And it’s so much fun to just feel the full experience of the Steam deck!
Games are never modified SPECIFICALLY for deck. Verified games run well on it. But I’m telling you, this game was MADE for it. 😆
98% of my steam deck games are indie games and I love them on it. Just got Turbo Kid, a lovely little metroidvania based off the awesome 80s throwback action scifi flick, highly recommend both
I've been playing my Backlog on my Steam Deck and I'm loving it.🎉
Great video and conversation guys. but if I had to choose one retro console that I could have brand new would definitely be the neo Geo
It's a difficult one because I don't think I can choose just one. I have my original Gameboy but the screen isn't as good as it used to be, so it would be nice having that screen ghost not so much. And it would be nice keeping my cardboard gameboy boxes which I didn't do back then.
PlayStation one was the hardest retro consoles to keep in good condition though, so I might go with that. Not the console mind (that was sturdy), but the games themselves scratched ever so easily and I don't have a single surviving PS1 case because the plastic was brittle.
The mini console I'd love: Dreamcast Classic with working online play, including PSO.
I recently just purchased a Japanese Sega Saturn and I love it. Would be an insta buy for me. Only thing that sucks is the cost of Saturn games right now are extremely high.
22:58 - So the company should have a fundraiser to see whether they should brick the game I bought from them? I'm sorry but that's really backwards. They should have a end of life plan for the customers who purchased their product.
Edit - realized you came to a similar conclusion. 😅
Mini shoot is an awesome indie game. Once I started I couldn't stop playing.
Another great episode! To Russ' point of Hell Diver's, in the higher levels and versus Automatons you do shoot more, but I love the fact I can just jump in for 20 minutes then with no strings attached put it down and go cook dinner. I love games that are co-op, fun and don't demand a time sink. Plus at 47 I don't have my 12 year old's Fortnite style reflexes so it's bar of entry is set low..
Oh quick edit, if Xbox makes a handheld they will sell their 360 games for the hardware and that's why they are "preserving hardware"
The Best Boy assists the Key Grip. The Key Grip sets up lights.
Just wanted to mention there are a couple good TH-camrs who essentially have a biweekly "iii initiative" highlighting the best indie games for that week if anyone is interested in this sort of thing
Rogue Prince of Persia looks pretty cool! What the Car, too! =D
I just installed New Vegas, and added like 70 mods. Then I had to uninstall all the mods and start activating one by one, and ended with 30+ mods. I'm having a blast with New Vegas RTX NSFW with CRT filters.
Another great podcast!.. I follow Russ with the Ubisoft thing. I'll just wait for the metacritic scores to settle in and then make a desision about if and when I will buy the game. A great game may be worth $100 but it has to be really good.
As a hard-core steam deck owner since 2023... I ended up buying 4 Fallout games on steam. I don't remember when and how but I can see them in my library. However, thd only fallout I've ever played was Fallout: New Vegas on PS3 which I adore... that said glad to know that New Vegas is the one I should play 😂
23:09 thats a cool idea, how about like a sale on their store : "buy one of our new games + this extra tip to help save the servers" or something so its not just give money and thats it. they will probably be happy boosting something newer too
eddit: or like a skin, "buy this bundle to help save the server and get a skin for one or our newer games" so their incentive is to get you to try one of their other games hopping you fall in love with that and forget the old one so they can close it later lol
I've heard that there's a Deadpool videogame on steam that got delisted and costs a mint for a usable key. I don't even know if it's good but i probably would have bought it for a few bucks. Now, ill never know if i ever wanted it because i can't even try it out. Emulation it is.
It was great as an experience, allright as a game. Felt like it had a lot of love for the character.
Interesting topics guys. I’m listening to the audio podcast as we speak. 😂
Nice to know others buy a game and don’t even try it for a while. I bought Scarlet Nexus on sale like a month ago and haven’t played it yet.
Also Russ, I get you on new companies taking a game and it not feeling the same. I loved Little Big Planet up until 3. Did not enjoy 3 at all and I can’t explain why. I can feel the difference. 😂
One last thing!! You guys mentioned the Rugrats game! I saw Bob's video on that! I'm waiting to try the demo! Such nostalgic SNES vibes from that game. I love it! Its about time light is shined on something other than old Spongebob games. Like Rugrats, Danny Phantom, Jimmy Neutron. Lol
I liked 3, but I agree that it somehow felt off. I thought the magic had just worn off by the third entry.
@@baggedapplesgaming3207 Right! I don’t dislike 3, by any means. But the story isn’t engaging anymore. Something definitely felt different. When I found out it was developed by another company, that explained it.
Lbp 1, 2, psp AND vita were all just loads of fun. 3 was meh, to me. 😂
What is that pixel cityscape background you have on your desktop? Looks awesome.
Um, its from something I bought when I did a lot of live streams, you StreamOS I think?
AAA games are good if they put money in the right spots. my fav game is planetside 2 which is an AAA 2012 game from Sony. it was the most ambitious fps game at that time and it still is now, this is the true problem. it's easier to cook another assasin creed compared to create new and interesting ways to play, but a game like planetside (the only true MMOFPS around) simply can't be made by a small indie studio, especially in 2012.
Hey 👋 everyone hope all is well today it’s super nice out side today I might play my steam deck outside today YALL have a great morning
22:49 a part of me died when WildStar got taken down officially... Still hurts
Oh man, I loved Wildstar, that was a marketing fail, because the game itself was fantastic.
@@NerdNest it was launched at the wrong time ... I would love them to re-launch it, just needs to change that cringy "hardcore" marketing they went way too heavy into
They were trying to get the hardcore WoW crowd, but that crowd isn't big enough to support a game, you need the filthy casuals as well. Because there are way more of us than there are hardcore.
@@NerdNest very true. I used to be hardcore, now very casual for ESO and SWTOR
Regarding fallout 4, you can ignore almost all of the base building quests. It's mostly the minutemen that make you do that and you can just leave and go explore the wasteland. You don't need to do what they want you to do for the main quest either, I'm pretty sure you could even just never go to the town where you rescue them and you'll find diamond city on your own and can continue with other factions. There's some minor base building you have to do at one point in the story, but it's fairly simple and quick. If base building is the reason you don't like fallout 4 I would really encourage you to give it another shot and just ignore that aspect of the game.
The GB emulator was removed from the store by Apple.
Apple said its cause its stolen from GBA4iOS. Hopefully Delta just gets put up on the store.
Yeah we recorded this on Sunday
What. I play alot of tripleA games. Sure some are bad but also some are very good. Name it recently horizon forbidden west gow ragnarok elden ring spiderman 2 forza 5 GT7 FFVII rebirth. There are also many bad indie games now and before. Its a product. Like many other products some good some bad. Even since i played the nes not all the games i like.
the primary creator of fallout was obsidian (back then black isle studio) not bethesda. That part why people like new vegas more because it was closer to the original.
11:11 right. But there comes a time when people get fed up and decide to rebel against stuff. Perhaps this game was just the one that made people say, “this is BS. Stop this. “
Any game that is triple AAA with a “season pass” is not complete and should not be 70 dollars especially when it is primarily a single player experience
You would probably enjoy Frostpunk if you can pick it up on sale.
1:08:30 Over 9,000% I want a GBA-SP classic, hell they could even put a small screen on the bottom and add DS games if they wanted, I don’t want a DS classic unless the design is closer to a 2DS-XL (but smaller) I never considered them “pocketable” at least enough for me to want to lug one around all day. I took my SP everywhere.
I think on the perseverance online games a sub fee to gain access to all the games that got shutdown to keep them maintained and maybe update them in quality of life as now alot things on the cloud can size up or down what it's needs to run. Be a more of a non porfit company to keep cost down with tax benefits.
I'm with Russ on the tv show front. i prefer having everything at once, and watch it at my own pace.
if i have to watch an episode a week i totally loose interest. i have dropped shows without even noticing i have dropped them simply because i forgot to watch the next episode and then 3 weeks later, i'm like "hey i was watching this, what the hell happened?"
so if that is how a show is released i also wait for the whole season to come out.
when i have all the episode, i watch one or two a day, depending on the show. sometimes i may watch like 5 or 6.
sometime i may watch 1 episode a week. but it would be my choice and that would be the pace i chose. and not someone else.
Haven't bought a triple a game is years and don't plan to anytime soon
Think the last one I got was... BioShock Infinite in like 2008-ish I think
Lol, reread that, guys. Emphasis on "bought"🏴☠️
@@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn or it could be as he said. Not everyone pirates games
@@zombiejesus7445 nah, there's been a plethora of fantastic aaa games released these few yrs. I'd bet the farm on it or op is on some bs.
@@Moe_Lester_fromUptwnyeah, he's such a cool guy 🙄
Give Fallout 4 a chance, the town building is nice and fits into the world. Calling it Minecraft is very reductive and shows a lack of knowledge about it. Also its not necessary to do any town building if you don't want to, just treat it like Fallout 3 and ignore it if you really don't like it.
Tipping as a system of remuneration is awful. Not only does it enable abuse both by management and by customers, it is also usually taxed at a higher rate than base pay. If a company actually wanted to reward the hard work of their employees, they could offer residuals, stock options, or other revenue sharing schemes. Most companies seem to reward their devs hard work these days by laying them off after the main development phase is over, or by dumping the work of their fired colleagues on the few that are left.
There is a "ROM" that was given away free, and because they did that, the company created a sequel.
Beneath a Steel Sky which was a SCUMM game, so not really a ROM. Because so many people emulated it with SCUMMVM, the created the sequel Beyond a Steel Sky.
I would love to see a mini dreamcast but maybe a little early ...
Is Jordan Mechner working with the Prince of Persia release?
If you wait six months to a year on a lot of these AAA games, you can get a patched-up version with all of the content released for 30%, 50% off, effectively training customers to NOT pre-order or buy games on day 1.
AAA games are like someone who constantly talks down to you and always asks you to pay for lunch.
even ps5 games have rom pkgs if you have delt with a jailbroken system , everything has a rom on the console side
While I understand that Russ thinking indie is just a type of game, it is very very much not. Indie is independent, no or small publisher. It has everything to do with money. EA doesn't make indie games, for instance.
Beyond Ubisoft the CEO should be named along these stained decisions so everyone knows who’s responsible.
Maybe they could've sold more if they hadn't censored it (rebirth). Don't much care about what they censored but returned it because they did.
Square Enix needs to start releasing games on PC earlier and not only on Epic games at first. There are plenty of people will play and buy it once it hits steam. I cant justify spending the money on a console for only a few games. I spent enough on a PC already. I bought Ghosts of Tsushima the day after it hit Steam when I saw it there.
The one classic console I want is the original Game Boy. Same shape with fake games you can put in it, rechargeable battery, same poop green screen but backlit.
Check out Fallout London (substantial F4 mod) coming in a week
It so messed me, Fallout 3 & Bethesda were the new, not the original. Some of the New Vegas team were the OGs, so damn it is wild how Russ's reasons for not liking Fallout New Vegas, would be more true if he was a Fallout 1 &. 2 diehard.
Both funny and frustrating to listen to that perspective.
Back in the wii era, indies were called shovelware😂
Plenty of major studio shovelware., especially licensed IP. That's not what shovelware is
Those are really bad sales figures for FF Rebirth. Console exclusivity may not have been a very smart move. Bill, I share your hope for the third installment, but I just really don't want to play FF Rebirth on console. I'm holding out for the PC release. Who knows, the Steam version might even surpass the PS5 edition in sales, just like we saw with Helldivers 2.
Dreamcast Mini!!! and if they want to really make money add Saturn games
I have a monster 4090 pc and have way more fun playing emulation or indies on my deck/ally no word of a lie, the AAA gaming space has been pretty terrible for a long time, I should be looking forward to the next hellblade or battlefield or some shite but I’m not, I’m looking forward to manor lords and the next hades… indies are often the peak of gaming and it’s quite sad while at the same time pretty awesome and these small teams deserve all the credit they get.
Why are we still calling them "AAA" if the games are garbage? Production cost doesn't equal a "AAA" rating.
Budgets of the game is exactly what AAA is supposed to represent, though I'd argue we shouldn't care how much the spent on the game.
@@NerdNest - That's precisely what I mean. Rating a game "AAA", or any other rating, for that matter, shouldn't have any basis in the amount of money spent on production. A billion dollar turd is still just a turd.
not being "allowed" to play your old games is pretty much the future trend, they dont want people playing old stuff they want people buying the next new thing, then the next and the next and the next. Popular old games impede sales of their new malware infested rubbish so they are just going to cull the old stuff any way they can.
I will purchase the Saturn Mini if includes Dragon Force
Russ! Fallout: New Vegas *is* the original developers. It's from the people who made Fallout 1 and 2.
Ah see that's my fault, I started on Fallout 3 so that one feels like the "original" to me :) Maybe I need to give New Vegas another chance!
Tbh you can also buy older games. Like games 3years old and older. You can get them for less than 10€, they are completely fixed with all the dlcs and stuff. I'm done with buying game year 1. There is so much to play. There is no need to play new games day one...
Sorry, hard disagree on the term Indie. Independent means Independent. Small studios, WITHOUT big money backing it.
"Indie" over triple A all the way. I don't care about shallow blockbuster experiences with endless remakes as "sequels". I never have cared about shallow blockbuster experiences - they're usually incredibly short and flashy and rely on buying you off with your eyes rather than solid gameplay. I'm also someone who grew up on SNES, Genesis, Turbografx, and Playstation, none of which had triple A games. (They had "system sellers", which I guess might be the era's triple A.)
I don't know why Ubisoft is pulling this shit, they have no leverage, nobody gives a crap about Ubisoft games. What a literal cash grab.
f**k the tipping devs idea and the dude who gave it.
this is beyond stupid... "oh, man i really liked this game, how can i give them more money, i can't think of anything"... no, that is not how things work. as Russ said, you follow them for example. also you buy their next game, even if it's not something you personally enjoy that much (i have Shank and Shank 2 because i really like Klei, but i don't like shank as a game that much) or you know, you can buy a second copy of the game just for the sake of it, you can go buy a copy as a gift for a friend who is not completely sold on the game.
there are many ways to do that. if they add this button, they will expect people to tip, which may lead to terrible things about the design of the game as well as the payment of the devs.
17:50 This is even worse than EA, when EA shut down their games, they just make it so you cant install them on a new computer(because activation servers are taken down) But to remove them from their library?
Both are unacceptable, but Ubisoft should face the corporate death sentence.
Heck games like Battlefield 2 still work great as long as you have the original computer, and while the game is still fun without online play, i am 99% sure there are 3rd party servers you can use to play online despite the install/activation servers being offline.
But to steal the game from me just tells me i need to file criminal charges and never do business with these companies again
I can totally understand shutting down online play services. But most games dont require online play to be fun. And the ones that require other people to make them good, then you dont have a good game, you have good friends.
Sometimes I feel like Ubisoft is doing things on purpose to make it easier for some other company to gobble them up. Thanks so much for the support.
Starfox Adventures is the pinnacle of tossing an IP into a game it didn't belong.
Blows my mind that Russ hasn't played Shadow of the Colossus!
Neither have I.
@@NerdNest I really recommend it! Boss fights might seem intimidating but its more of a beautiful puzzle game than anything. Thanks for the continuous stream of high quality content.
Removing content from a game sounds like the crappy version of justice league & then we finally got the superior version in the Snyder Cut of Justice League! 🤔
Fallout 3 love represent 🙏
AOE 2 has a cheat that enables T-Rex and monster trucks :P
WHAT?
I listen to this in my podcast app which I sometimes pause and unpause throughout the day while I work. Could you fine people mention the name of the game you're discussing a little more frequently? I think sometimes you'll quickly mention the game when you move on to a new topic, but then you'll mainly refer to it with pronouns, sometimes for several minutes. Can be tough to hop back into the conversation if I had to pause earlier, or even if I was a bit distracted by something when you first began discussing it.
If an "Indie" game requires Uplay, its not Indie.
If they want me to buy Rebirth they will need to release it on Steam. Already got the limited edition soundtrack collection for it though, so I'm definitely excited.
Riley's objection is somewhat disingenuous. Allegedly, he initially released it under the LGPL, an open source license that permits copying and modifying source code.
No one needs indie games either. Solitaire has endless replayability. Plus you can play other card games with the same deck!
Nintendo would never do this. But why doesn't Nintendo have a launcher for PC. People love Nintendo on PC anyway. But you could sell NES game for 10 bucks and switch games for as much as 70 an it would be officially supported and preserving games. Brownie points and cash money for big N. They are just to stubborn to do it though.
Destiny 2 is a horribly preserved game, new content has overridden older expansions and older story missions are no longer available....
it's the main sticking point to why I can't being myself to go back to this game. It's an amazing playing game and I do love playing it but when I can't go back and play the original content through the new content it's immersion breaking.
I've given up of Final Fantacy. It's like they hate us orginal fans so why should I support games that's not made for me?
I know SquareEnix still know how to make a great game (octopath traveler in Triangle strategies are good examples) However after seeing how they ruined FF7, I'm gonna pass on any FF in the future.
About the director's cut discourse...let me tell you...
You both got this issue completely backward.
Movies don't work like video games.
Games normally have a general rhythm. The length (unless we are talking about completely linear experiences) is mostly set by the player. How much time do they want to spend in an area, if they want to endure some optional side missions, etc...
In that case, "having more stuff" can be a mostly harmless addition, but it depends on the type of game. I certainly can think of some games that would have benefitted from having some sequences wholly cut out or shrunk down (The Last of Us Part II, for example).
Movies, however, have to be really careful with their pacing. This is evident in how single cuts can completely change the mood of a scene and in how hard it is to manage a coherent sequence of events without screwing it up. You can't reduce a director's cut to "having more stuff". Sometimes, meandering too much with a story-beat can completely destroy your viewing experience.
In fact, the best director's cuts normally don't add that much but try to balance the flow of the story in the right places (but that depends on how crazy the director actually is). I'm leaving out the instances where a "director's cut" title is thrown to the public as a completely fabricated marketing stunt.
That said, I love your podcasts, but please...be careful when you touch these topics ;)
PS: unfortunately taking out chunks of a videogame to sell them as dlcs is nothing new. I still remember the uproard for Asura's Wrath, Assassin's Creed 2 or Batman Arkham City. It just got normalized.
All of the good games have already been made.
Big games with a fair business model getting more and more rare. But sorry - Indie never saved anything. It's a weird cluttered culture with way too many projects, a lot of trolling, a lack of quality filtering and they don't make AAA better. It's more like they keep on sucking in their own ways, instead of blending over to enhance the other segment. The best indies often are games that aimed for a commercial release and were forced to release it independently because of not fitting in any publishers portfolio. If I really want to play something wirh pixels etc. in 2024, I choose the originals. They were at least polished for their time and it usually shows in comparison.
PS2 classic console
Indie games are boring they don’t save the day it’s the third party games that saves the consoles
Dear @NerdNest, your description of what happened to City of Heroes is so wholly inaccurate that it is profoundly insulting. There was no lawsuit and it was entirely the community that saved the game from the clutches of it's publisher, as it was being held hostage in an NCSoft broom closet for years! They finally granted us a license but let's be clear, NCSoft were never the good guys.
I never said they were the good guys, I said they did the right thing. As for the lack of lawsuit. I can’t be expected to remember every detail of every game. It was a conversation and I got part of it wrong. If that is insulting to you then I don’t know what to tell you.
@@NerdNest It's no biggie, although, you could say, sorry, let me read up on it. You were not being offensive and you can’t be expected to know everything about every game, it’s just that, as someone who lived through it, that recounting left a really bad taste in my mind. Imagine one of the worst experiences you've ever had, being recounted by your mom as though it wasn't a big deal, inaccurately and with no mention of blame going to those responsible for hurting you. Does that make sense? How about recounting the full City of Heroes story on a future episode? If you help bring in some new players, you're forgiven and absolved. Love the show!
Atari Lynx
Nobody NEEDS indie games eaither video games are not a NEED in general.
Very bad example of saying what indie games still are, and you agree , which was wierd