I loved how narcisse died in the most undignified position like the true vermin he was. Whoever thought of him to die with his arms like that was such a great director
There is an incredible amount of subtext to the different traits that made Narcisse. First lets look at the name: It implies Narcissism. Narcisse thought highly of himself in a way that depended on the inferiority of "Libians" and other Black people. He used education as a pretext to put himself above. And his description of the vampire? it absolutely was a self reflection... I believe Narcisse had enough self awareness to understand his evil nature. He made sure that he used all other disadvantaged people as a means to his ends... Imprisoning women, murdering those who were no longer useful, creating zombies (heroin being an allegory for such an undertaking). Was Narcisse ultimately a self loathing Black Man? To me he was a villian who embodied so many tropes: the puller of strings, the sociopathology to use and abuse, and the evil doctor who created zombies...
Solid take fam.. I was waiting for Chalky to have his own conflict and own enemy so in a way I feel Narcisse was necasary evil for Chalkys storyline. Jeffrey Wright and Michael K Williams were never boring when they were on screen together. Thank you for watching looking forward to hearing your thoughts on my other videos👍🏾
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141 Chalky and Narcisse were both cynical. yet Chalky was a "Mammal." He felt love, he understood the need for loyalty, friendship... Narcisse was from that part of the brain that is often called the 'Lizard' part... He was a misanthrope that had no real friends, did not love, except for himself (perhaps). Chalky wanted a club to be a part of the community, Narcisse wanted to sell a drug that created zombies behind the scenes. Chalky wanted to "shine" like a light hence the name (Chalky White) while Narcisse wanted to use a pretext to hide. Enjoy your presentations! It is a privalege to have a chance to discuss these characters.
I hated that they made Chalky look so incompetent. Between (1) the botched hit, (2) his failing to pay attention to the Northside community's issues due to always being at the Club with Daughter, and (3) his allowing Narcisse to gain a foothold in his turf with the Negro Improvement Club. I dunno, they made Chalky look like an amateur ... Narcisse really just owned Chalky from start to finish. At least that's how I see it.
Chalky was one of the few characters on that show I never lost respect for. Even Nucky disappointed me on multiple occasions, but Chalky was a real one. I hated seeing Narcisse get the drop on him--and I hate it even more that Michael K. Williams is no longer with us.
I agree 💯 that as much as I liked the character of Chalky White.....Narcisse was 10 levels above Chalky in every way..& it's obvious that he sensed Chalky s WEAKNESS.. that he was basically just a front man for Nucky & decided early on that he was going to take EVERYTHING Chalky had..& he also knew that Nucky would have done business with him when he did. It was obvious that as much as Chalky was the man amongst the Black community in AC,. he depended on Nucky .. who was his Boss.. even tho Nucky let him believe that they had a partnership...but Chalky deep down knew his limitations & that without Nucky he was powerless against the much bigger gangsters who wouldn't have pretended to be partners with him & just extorted him like anyone else One thing I really didn't like about Chalky was how he obviously had self esteem issues around his wife & kids...he couldn't read or write & his kids were going to college..but instead of just being happy that he was able to use his criminal skills to give his wife & kids a much better life than he had.. he basically threw it all away to become Captain Save A Hoe for a woman who he should have kept as a side piece.. nothing more.. as a gangster your wife & kids always come before your girl on the side..& him falling in love with her was yet ANOTHER weakness that Narcisse was able to use against him. It was obvious that Chalky deep down didn't feel that he DESERVED the life he had with his wife & kids..& in the end...his low self esteem made his fear of losing everything a self fulfilling prophecy. I agree 💯 about how it was obvious that Chalky didn't have it in him to be a boss on the level of Narcisse..& it was only because of Nucky & the fact that Nucky liked him that he was able to be as successful for as long as he did..
I loved how narcisse died in the most undignified position like the true vermin he was. Whoever thought of him to die with his arms like that was such a great director
Jeffery Wright is a SUPERB actor! I enjoyed every second of screentime as Dr. Narcisse. So bold, arrogant, and calculating. As much as I loved Chalky, he was no match for the Dr.
Great show. Great characters. I never caught the part about him killing the stripper and taking her daughter! I knew there was a relationship. Thanks 👍
@@silkkdread that's why I read Helter Skelter 10 times. And still every time I read it, I discover something I missed. Just like the Sopranos. Without the Sopranos Boardwalk Empire wouldn't exist. Kudos to David Chase ❤️
Narcisse is the very definition of a “ Scumbag” played masterfully by criminally underrated actor Geoffrey Wright, I remember him wayyy back in Shaft 2000 as Peoples Hernandez.
Appreciate you bro, gonna do a video on the darmodys next and honestly dog I wanted to finish more characters but I’m for real about to do a villians ranked video.. thanks for watching fam
The best part of BWE was the black guys and their clothes. They looked like _men._ They had style and dignity. Today's black men dress like toddlers. And not even well-dressed toddlers.
Jeffrey Wright has long been one of my favorite actors. He was brilliantly evil as Narcisse. Excellent analysis of how Chalky got outmaneuvered by the slick dishonest Narcisse . Chalky was honest and loyal, a rare commodity in that time.
I think Chalky made as many connections as an uneducated black man could have in the 1920s. Yes he was living in a New Jersey town were Union Army veterans still held considerable power (The Commodore). But it was also at the height of the 2nd Klan (the one that arose in 1915 and first started burning crosses and using pointed hoods) where even public school teachers (Jimmy's teacher) were publicly Klan members. If you rewatch the show, Chalky got along with the Catholic (Irish and Italian) gangsters & the Jewish gangsters (both groups despised by the 2nd Klan), but no one else
At the time both Irish n italian were not considered white. The k wanted mostly protestant anglo saxons. A lot of people think the nazibn k would get along but that doesn't quite fit their plans
If you remember in one of the episodes, Nucky contemplated taking Narcisse out but he didn’t want to incur the wrath of Owney Madden. Madden had a very fierce reputation and wasn’t someone to be played with. Too bad we really didn’t get a chance to see that
Anytime mate, appreciate the solid editing and hard work that went into this. Hope I can get my stuff looking this clean one day. @@loudnclearvoiceovers4141
I saw that i think i woulda put dunn in there too especially with the betrayel what is it your doin for the next video ranking the best performances or best characters@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141
Narcisse realized everyone was expendable, including the Negro League. Nevertheless, he made profound leverage to ensure those that maintained a ruthless commitment to the Negro League were strengthened and rewarded (...his protection, but also the legacy of his NL tenure). His distortions were significantly the most lucid of his contemporaries. Everyone and nobody had value...everything and nothing had value. He was the first to pounce on Nucky after Nucky had made his "pressured" payoff. First among equals?
...talking Chalky...and Harlem...there is a family scene at dinner with Chalkys family when his daughter brings her beau to meet them all. Chalkys complete lack of grace is a statement about him at his most immodest. Chalky greatest flaw was his inability to conceal his flaws....and to personalize everyone as being the cause of such a flawed persona
Chalky deserved better.
Everybody loves Chaulky BC he came up from slavery & is a protective dad & boss.
His family did to .
@@7305Djwhatifhe gave them a life that made them feel they were better than him 🤷🏿♂️
R.I.P. Michael k. Williams. Every character he played was unforgettable. "When you come for the king you best not miss". Omar little
Narcisse was a huge hypocrite. Far from the only one in the show, but Narcisse seemed possibly the least self-aware about it.
I loved how narcisse died in the most undignified position like the true vermin he was. Whoever thought of him to die with his arms like that was such a great director
He wasn't named accidentally.
That last part “ least self aware about it” that’s what made him so annoyingly vile haha . Most of them in that world knew they weren’t best morally
"All this just for a little JELLY!!!" Superbly written and superbly acted, both men.
Funny how chalky chastised purnsley for the jelly while the jelly led to chalkys downfall
The actor that played Dunn Pernsley has the most chilling stare. Brilliant performance amongst a cast of brilliant actors.
There is an incredible amount of subtext to the different traits that made Narcisse. First lets look at the name: It implies Narcissism. Narcisse thought highly of himself in a way that depended on the inferiority of "Libians" and other Black people. He used education as a pretext to put himself above. And his description of the vampire? it absolutely was a self reflection... I believe Narcisse had enough self awareness to understand his evil nature. He made sure that he used all other disadvantaged people as a means to his ends... Imprisoning women, murdering those who were no longer useful, creating zombies (heroin being an allegory for such an undertaking).
Was Narcisse ultimately a self loathing Black Man? To me he was a villian who embodied so many tropes: the puller of strings, the sociopathology to use and abuse, and the evil doctor who created zombies...
Solid take fam.. I was waiting for Chalky to have his own conflict and own enemy so in a way I feel Narcisse was necasary evil for Chalkys storyline. Jeffrey Wright and Michael K Williams were never boring when they were on screen together. Thank you for watching looking forward to hearing your thoughts on my other videos👍🏾
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141 Chalky and Narcisse were both cynical. yet Chalky was a "Mammal." He felt love, he understood the need for loyalty, friendship... Narcisse was from that part of the brain that is often called the 'Lizard' part... He was a misanthrope that had no real friends, did not love, except for himself (perhaps). Chalky wanted a club to be a part of the community, Narcisse wanted to sell a drug that created zombies behind the scenes. Chalky wanted to "shine" like a light hence the name (Chalky White) while Narcisse wanted to use a pretext to hide.
Enjoy your presentations! It is a privalege to have a chance to discuss these characters.
I hated that they made Chalky look so incompetent.
Between (1) the botched hit, (2) his failing to pay attention to the Northside community's issues due to always being at the Club with Daughter, and (3) his allowing Narcisse to gain a foothold in his turf with the Negro Improvement Club.
I dunno, they made Chalky look like an amateur ... Narcisse really just owned Chalky from start to finish. At least that's how I see it.
All good things come to an end same with Nucky
Chalky was one of the few characters on that show I never lost respect for. Even Nucky disappointed me on multiple occasions, but Chalky was a real one. I hated seeing Narcisse get the drop on him--and I hate it even more that Michael K. Williams is no longer with us.
Narcissewas planting the seed of "Duppy" in Dunn's head about Chalky.
I will simply say it was bold and appreciated from this show to have both of these characters existing at the same time.
Yeah, Michael Williams and Jeff Wright killed their roles.
I agree 💯 that as much as I liked the character of Chalky White.....Narcisse was 10 levels above Chalky in every way..& it's obvious that he sensed Chalky s WEAKNESS.. that he was basically just a front man for Nucky & decided early on that he was going to take EVERYTHING Chalky had..& he also knew that Nucky would have done business with him when he did.
It was obvious that as much as Chalky was the man amongst the Black community in AC,. he depended on Nucky .. who was his Boss.. even tho Nucky let him believe that they had a partnership...but Chalky deep down knew his limitations & that without Nucky he was powerless against the much bigger gangsters who wouldn't have pretended to be partners with him & just extorted him like anyone else
One thing I really didn't like about Chalky was how he obviously had self esteem issues around his wife & kids...he couldn't read or write & his kids were going to college..but instead of just being happy that he was able to use his criminal skills to give his wife & kids a much better life than he had.. he basically threw it all away to become Captain Save A Hoe for a woman who he should have kept as a side piece.. nothing more.. as a gangster your wife & kids always come before your girl on the side..& him falling in love with her was yet ANOTHER weakness that Narcisse was able to use against him.
It was obvious that Chalky deep down didn't feel that he DESERVED the life he had with his wife & kids..& in the end...his low self esteem made his fear of losing everything a self fulfilling prophecy.
I agree 💯 about how it was obvious that Chalky didn't have it in him to be a boss on the level of Narcisse..& it was only because of Nucky & the fact that Nucky liked him that he was able to be as successful for as long as he did..
"Nothings changed, the mob just moved to politics" -unknown.
I loved how narcisse died in the most undignified position like the true vermin he was. Whoever thought of him to die with his arms like that was such a great director
I heard Duppy is just another word for ghost, a vengeful spirit that is what is left when the good part of the soul goes to heaven.
Dr. Narcisse was the head Duppy, fo sho.
🤣🤣Facts
Best scene was when Hoover sat down with Narcisse and told him exactly what he is.
Jeffery Wright is a SUPERB actor! I enjoyed every second of screentime as Dr. Narcisse. So bold, arrogant, and calculating. As much as I loved Chalky, he was no match for the Dr.
Great show. Great characters. I never caught the part about him killing the stripper and taking her daughter! I knew there was a relationship. Thanks 👍
Yea they never showed it but he just explained it himself to someone I forgot to whom tho
@@silkkdread I usually catch a lot when I watch it again. Which is what I'm doing now. Thx, I'll pay more attention.
@@nancyvillines4552 yea the attention to detail they put into that show was amazing still catching new stuff on it til this day lol👍🏾
@@silkkdread that's why I read Helter Skelter 10 times. And still every time I read it, I discover something I missed. Just like the Sopranos. Without the Sopranos Boardwalk Empire wouldn't exist. Kudos to David Chase ❤️
@@nancyvillines4552 u just read my mind about the sopranos I was gonna mention that in my previous comment but I digressed lol
The Dr. was dangerous
Great character. Thanks for watching boss
He was the most loathsome character. Hypocritical and beyond cruel. What creates such an evil person. The actor did such a great job portraying him.
I loved the duns purnsley vs chalky white in the season
Outstanding acting by our black stars RIP Mr. William BKLYN OWNS
Narcisse is the very definition of a “ Scumbag” played masterfully by criminally underrated actor Geoffrey Wright, I remember him wayyy back in Shaft 2000 as Peoples Hernandez.
Chalky was one of my fav characters in BWE!
Rip to MKW. Really loved his storylines with Jeffery wright and I thought both characters had amazingly written ends
I agree. Thanks for watching
Rite on point as usual bro.. i been waiting on this one preciate ya bro the doctor was the definition of a smooth criminal
Appreciate you bro, gonna do a video on the darmodys next and honestly dog I wanted to finish more characters but I’m for real about to do a villians ranked video.. thanks for watching fam
The best part of BWE was the black guys and their clothes. They looked like _men._ They had style and dignity. Today's black men dress like toddlers. And not even well-dressed toddlers.
Jeffrey Wright has long been one of my favorite actors. He was brilliantly evil as Narcisse. Excellent analysis of how Chalky got outmaneuvered by the slick dishonest Narcisse . Chalky was honest and loyal, a rare commodity in that time.
I think Chalky made as many connections as an uneducated black man could have in the 1920s. Yes he was living in a New Jersey town were Union Army veterans still held considerable power (The Commodore). But it was also at the height of the 2nd Klan (the one that arose in 1915 and first started burning crosses and using pointed hoods) where even public school teachers (Jimmy's teacher) were publicly Klan members. If you rewatch the show, Chalky got along with the Catholic (Irish and Italian) gangsters & the Jewish gangsters (both groups despised by the 2nd Klan), but no one else
Yeah that’s most definently a fair assesment. Thank you for watching fam
At the time both Irish n italian were not considered white. The k wanted mostly protestant anglo saxons. A lot of people think the nazibn k would get along but that doesn't quite fit their plans
Brilliant ❤️!! crazy how Nucky, Chalky become sympathetic & Narcise channels today’s race hustlers
Thank you for watching fam🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141 love your work
Chalky fell for that light skin 😂
Narcisse was a total hypocrite. Was so pleasing to see Hoover call him out
Excellent work man!
Thanks fam, I appreciate you taking the time to watch
If you remember in one of the episodes, Nucky contemplated taking Narcisse out but he didn’t want to incur the wrath of Owney Madden. Madden had a very fierce reputation and wasn’t someone to be played with.
Too bad we really didn’t get a chance to see that
He was talking about the panhandler bumming in front of one of his lecture spots, duppy.
He was a panhandler?
Great video about amazing and underated characters
Thanks fam, I appreciate you watching
Anytime mate, appreciate the solid editing and hard work that went into this. Hope I can get my stuff looking this clean one day. @@loudnclearvoiceovers4141
It be cool if you rank the best performances or characters for your next story
Coming up next brotha.. check out my video about the worst characters
I saw that i think i woulda put dunn in there too especially with the betrayel what is it your doin for the next video ranking the best performances or best
characters@@loudnclearvoiceovers4141
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Narcisse realized everyone was expendable, including the Negro League. Nevertheless, he made profound leverage to ensure those that maintained a ruthless commitment to the Negro League were strengthened and rewarded (...his protection, but also the legacy of his NL tenure). His distortions were significantly the most lucid of his contemporaries. Everyone and nobody had value...everything and nothing had value. He was the first to pounce on Nucky after Nucky had made his "pressured" payoff. First among equals?
...talking Chalky...and Harlem...there is a family scene at dinner with Chalkys family when his daughter brings her beau to meet them all. Chalkys complete lack of grace is a statement about him at his most immodest. Chalky greatest flaw was his inability to conceal his flaws....and to personalize everyone as being the cause of such a flawed persona
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I didn’t like the Dr
Yeah, definently not a fan favorite but a great character
Another adult male calling himself "Its yah boi"
Thanks for watching my boy
This part of the show was poor writing.
Joe budden did a great job playing narcisse
🤣🤣Thats wild bro