So who thinks ASRock will remember this and apply the design to future designs? Surely they won't mess up? 😅 It seems like ASRock in general have pretty good power delivery and cooling for the money.
you need to study management/economy sourcery for like 17 years to understand this kind of advanced magic. not many are able to do this advanced things
I am not building my PC until black friday times, but man, it's videos like this that will be used to determine my parts list. god bless people like you willing to put the time and effort into making videos like this. THIS is the type of shit that makes youtube worth it for consumers. so ridiculously helpful. today you earned a sub (a comment, obviously) and like. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
Especially considering this trend on Newegg of lumping together 10-15 motherboards under one list item so when people review them, you don't know what boards they're reviewing unless they specifically name them, which doesn't happen very often. That functionality is just gone, now.
@@LithiumLogicai don't understand why newegg doesn't do the same thing as amazon. amazon also lists different products under the same listing but it at least leaves a note of which product the reviewer bought.
I'm really happy he confirmed my purchase of the Asrock B650M RS WiFi being good, even if it was on a technicality because HDV/M.2 is impossible to get.
VRM heat is useful, but is that the only thing motherboards do and the only thing left to test?! It's like having a CPU, and only looking at integer and float performance 🤦♂ What happened to looking at actual power consumption, cpu performance, pcie performance, ssd controller performance, and usb throughput?!
@@davidanderson4727 Motherboard temperature directly affects the performance of those components so we can assume the hotter the mobo the worse it will perform in general. Just look at the thermal throttling presented in the graphs.
@@Puyols37 That's incorrect. The VRM only affects the CPU performance. Regardless, the overall design of the board and other "enhancements" would also affect cpu performance, such as the manufacturer doing a tiny overclock of the bus. It's a pretty short-sighted review and mostly a waste of time, considering how power can vary so much, and overlooking all aspects of the board, including audio controller, sata and usb controller, pci-e performance, etc.
I bought the B650M-HDV/M.2 last year because of your detailed coverage of the AM5 boards. I'd highly recommend it to anyone looking for a budget option. It's simply great for that price. As always, brilliant video Steve!
This is the best budget board out there. Great VRM, fast booting, runs extremely fast RAM if you want thanks to only having two slots. The only downside is the lack of ARGB header.
I got the h / m.2+, because on my country the HDV version was unavailable, it gives you good performance for the price as long as you keep in the ryzen 5 or ryzen 7 series because that is what its meant for
No one else makes this type of videos. I really respect you guys for this. This is so helpful for someone who wants to build a PC with these motherboards. I was eyeing the Pro RS for a while and It's nice to have some reassurance.
These videos are so good, because I can see people looking these videos up for several years to come, as you might be able to pick up an older, but good, board at a cheaper price, when looking to upgrade in the future.
Thank you for your hard work Steve! I am on the path for getting my first new PC for a while, sitting on a i5-4670K right now... Will be an ITX build but might have a bigger brother in the ATX family. You are my go-to source for getting the parts, because I respect your work ethics and Actual testing instead of just reading promotion material. You ara appreciated, very much so! Thanks again!
I bought a B450 board based on your recommendation, still using it with a 5800X3D (also based on your reviews), and it's a great system. You guys always steer the consumer in the right direction, thank you!
I just purchased my parts to build my new AM5 system, and THEN I find this channel. Luckily I seemed to have not messed up. A bit borderline, will need to make sure I keep my case cool.
Very grateful that someone takes the time and effort to test them. Waiting for the mini-itx. For the first time I'm thinking to come back to ATX from itx as the temps, W and heat seems to be rising in CPU and GPU every generation.
Amazing video - awesome work and detail, thanks! I just purchased the Asrock B650M Pro RS so this reassured me a bit. I only paid £120 for it after discounts, so it seems like a bargain of an AM5 board - especially since it has 3x M.2 NVMe slots. 😊
I got mine for $100 and it enables me to pair the board with a 7800x3d instead of 7700x so, I'm forever grateful. For the perf/price, and feature, this is the board to get IMO
Absolutely love the content, I have been using AORUS Elite AX (the first version) for a year thanks to your review las year. And thanks for shout out on the V2 cost reduction version, I think it should be a transparent information that some manufacturers wanna cut some corners after the huge success on the first version hoping that customers wouldn't notice it
@@patrickderp1044 To some of us it matters jack shit. I have a mouse and keyboard on the same wireless fob on the backside, and that's it. Literally. If I use my wired game controller I plug it into the USB hub on the monitor. I don't also have any USB sticks that are faster than USB 2.0....
Hardware Unboxed, you do not know how much videos like these help people buying new cccomponents with their hard-earned money. Cheers to you for all the hardwork
Also worth looking at when choosing motherboards is troubleshooting LEDs. Good ones have two 8-digit LEDs, others just give you individual leds for RAM/Power/CPU and you have to go from there. Having no feedback is a no go for me, I don't want to spend hours guessing what is wrong.
Outstanding video! Thanks for the testing and data. I'm still glad I bought my Taichi Lite. As you said, outstanding feature set for the (relatively) low price. If nothing else comes out with more competitive features for a lower price, I'll be buying a second when I do another build for my wife around black friday.
I do not need a B650 m/b, but knowing how much work you always put into these videos, I had to click, watch, like, and comment. Thank you guys so much for what you're doing!
Thank you Steve for your excellent analysis of these boards! ASRock is SO underrated... I have had ASRock products for over 10 years now and i love them.. Steady performance! Great value for money! Currently i'm using a X670E Steel Legend for almost a year and i haven't had any issues. Also, i have the 7900 XTX Taichi which is a beast in performance, great cooling and beautiful aesthetically.
The MB MASTER its BACK... sit down and enjoy this INCREDIBLE amount of work !! I always base my purchase on HU and I was NEVER dissapointed. Keep working guys , you are the best. Cheers from Italy.
I got the Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX V2 B650 and have loved it. Memory training is fast. No issues at all. Very good experience out of the box with my 7800x3d and G.Skill 6000 RAM.
You 're saying "I don't know why I do this" but let me tell you, your input is invaluable for someone like me: Haven't been up to PC hardware news for quite a long time. My PC is in need of an upgrade since it's a 10 y.o. platform. I live in a country with a smaller market so availability is hit or miss. And last but not least, a budget GPU is almost half of a month's wage. In view of those things, searching for advice and finding your videos on B650 motherboards (probably the best on the platform, if not the only one doing the round-up) is godsend. Thanks to you I've now narrowed it down to 3 models and I'm going to buy the cheapest one. Thank you!
the "$240" for the B650E Taichi Lite costs now after a 20€ price drop 310€. (which is the actual real price since the b650e taichi costs exactly the mentioned 364€ at the moment.
@@deceivedonegaming6105 Yes but it actually isn't 40 % because a sales tax will be added to the 240 $ which depends on the state. The sales tax seems to only be around 10 % or less though. I don't know if theres other taxes or things that will increase the price. Some US citizen can correct this.
I really appreciate this sort of roundup and review video. Thank you Steve for doing all this great work to help consumers find quality products in the heap of options out there.
i love these motherboard big videos. helps a ton since not all the models available everywhere so testing this much of motherboards is a bless. thanks Steve 🙏🏻 the asrock pro rs and the pg riptide both are amazing and don't cost you a kidney.
I am glad that you guys are doing a buying guide. I plan on getting a 9000 series chip and was just going to do old school pen and paper and go through every board on the list and make a choice. Your guide will help my sanity and I am sure my doctor would appreciate it(kidding of course). It would be a wonderful guide for everyone, especially noobies, so do not have much of a guide or know what to and what not to look for. When I bought my first board, I made a lot of mistakes and It will save people the hassle and potentially money that could be spent elsewhere. You are amazing for testing all of these!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the hard work Steve.
Thanks Steve
@Mans1884 both are Steve...
@Mans1884 2 people can't have the same name? Man that's crazy
@Mans1884😢
@Mans1884 This is Monitor Steve
"Hardware Unboxed" is not just a channel it is like a gold mine for viewers
Thank you for all your work in testing the B650 motherboards. I found this series of videos critical to selecting a motherboard this year.
This definitely took a LOT of effort and time! Massive respect! Thanks! 🙌🏻🖤
25:32 Motherboard manufactures: "what kind of sorcery is this that he is speaking of?!"
So who thinks ASRock will remember this and apply the design to future designs? Surely they won't mess up? 😅
It seems like ASRock in general have pretty good power delivery and cooling for the money.
you need to study management/economy sourcery for like 17 years to understand this kind of advanced magic. not many are able to do this advanced things
As always the issue are the suit chairmen.
Businesses don't make products to generate demand; they make products BECAUSE there is demand.
@@stennanbut their after sales service, warranty and RMA is horrible.
Steve is an absolute madman for that. And thank you Balin too
I am not building my PC until black friday times, but man, it's videos like this that will be used to determine my parts list. god bless people like you willing to put the time and effort into making videos like this. THIS is the type of shit that makes youtube worth it for consumers. so ridiculously helpful. today you earned a sub (a comment, obviously) and like. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
Especially considering this trend on Newegg of lumping together 10-15 motherboards under one list item so when people review them, you don't know what boards they're reviewing unless they specifically name them, which doesn't happen very often. That functionality is just gone, now.
@@LithiumLogicai don't understand why newegg doesn't do the same thing as amazon. amazon also lists different products under the same listing but it at least leaves a note of which product the reviewer bought.
Amazon Prime Day July 16-17 is early Black Friday
@carrickdubya4765 hope it is, I'm half into a pc build
As usual, the budget board that’s most highly recommended will be unobtainable for weeks after the video hits. Thanks, Steve!
I agree. Thats why its very good of Steve to just recommend all that pass the vrm test :)
Luckily I bought mine last year and the price has more or less stuck at what I paid for it.
Colorful B650
@richardbeckenbaugh1805 The boards are out of stock!
Back To You, Steve.
Absolutely monumental work, considering the confirmed 2027+ AM5 support it'll prove useful for years to come.
by the about 80% of these boards will be EOL anyway
@@sgredsch not really. b450 and b550 are still relevant.
I'm really happy he confirmed my purchase of the Asrock B650M RS WiFi being good, even if it was on a technicality because HDV/M.2 is impossible to get.
@@sgredsch lol no, i have a EVGA 2011 board thats nearly a decade, going strong
@@sgredschIf we're talking about Intel, then sure it is.
Thanks for all the effort in this one Steve.
The madman has done it again! Incredible work, Steve! Thank you!
VRM heat is useful, but is that the only thing motherboards do and the only thing left to test?!
It's like having a CPU, and only looking at integer and float performance 🤦♂
What happened to looking at actual power consumption, cpu performance, pcie performance, ssd controller performance, and usb throughput?!
@@davidanderson4727 Motherboard temperature directly affects the performance of those components so we can assume the hotter the mobo the worse it will perform in general. Just look at the thermal throttling presented in the graphs.
@@Puyols37 That's incorrect. The VRM only affects the CPU performance. Regardless, the overall design of the board and other "enhancements" would also affect cpu performance, such as the manufacturer doing a tiny overclock of the bus.
It's a pretty short-sighted review and mostly a waste of time, considering how power can vary so much, and overlooking all aspects of the board, including audio controller, sata and usb controller, pci-e performance, etc.
I bought the B650M-HDV/M.2 last year because of your detailed coverage of the AM5 boards. I'd highly recommend it to anyone looking for a budget option. It's simply great for that price. As always, brilliant video Steve!
same, rocking it with my 7500F and soon upgrading to zen5 x3d model
This is the best budget board out there. Great VRM, fast booting, runs extremely fast RAM if you want thanks to only having two slots. The only downside is the lack of ARGB header.
Same thing here! I bought it for €99 and maxed out the ram with a 32gb 6400mts kit for the same price. I'm very happy with it.
Also I found bios 2.0 delivers best CO performance in terms of undervolting.
I got the h / m.2+, because on my country the HDV version was unavailable, it gives you good performance for the price as long as you keep in the ryzen 5 or ryzen 7 series because that is what its meant for
Steve went in shop:
STEVE: I want to buy B650 MBO
SELLER: ok, we have more then 50 models to offer, which one do you want?
STEVE: Yes.
haha 😂 😂
Seller: WHAT DO YOU MEAN "YES" ?
Steve: Did i stutter ?
@@frieza1016 what do you mean yes?
Steve: yes
Oh the tipical "YES" NPC joke. Somebody once figured it out and after that every zero imagination NPC repeating it 0-24.
@@TheVektast you skipped medication again?
B650 Unboxed
Crazy effort put in these roundups, appreciated
What a madlad amount of work haha 🙂 Thank you so much, I shared this video on reddit too (PCMR). You are amazing Steve!
Wow I am shocked, I can't imagine how hard it must have been to test this many boards.
thanks2
Incredible effort to re-test every B650 board from the previous video. Hats off Steve
@@Lockwood360 You have a very short attention span.
"Thanks Steve". Seriously, an enormous effort. Thank you for all your channel does for the tech community.
I dont even want to know how much work this was! Massive thank you!
Blown away by how much work you put into testing! Im an electronics engineer of 20 years, this is the gold standard of testing.
Thank you!
No one else makes this type of videos. I really respect you guys for this. This is so helpful for someone who wants to build a PC with these motherboards. I was eyeing the Pro RS for a while and It's nice to have some reassurance.
One of the videos I was looking for these days, thanks Steve!
Thank you for the hardwork on mid ranges mobo vrm testing too. Really appreciated.
these board test's are really amazing! keep up the great work!
Jesus Christ, Steve. That was A LOT of work. Thank you.
Much appreciated, truly immence amount of benchmarking. Outstanding work. Thanks, Steve! And Balin, too!
Very good quality of info. This is rather rare to find
Wow, thats a lot of work. Thanks for doing it
Tremendous amount of work. Thank you Steve.
The amount of testing is insane. Thank you Steve!
These videos have been so incredibly helpful while researching for my new Ryzen build. Thank you!!! Settled on a B650E Taichi Lite.
This level of involvement deserves nothing but praise. Well done!
These videos are so good, because I can see people looking these videos up for several years to come, as you might be able to pick up an older, but good, board at a cheaper price, when looking to upgrade in the future.
Thank you for the hard work, love this channel!
Thank you for your hard work Steve! I am on the path for getting my first new PC for a while, sitting on a i5-4670K right now... Will be an ITX build but might have a bigger brother in the ATX family.
You are my go-to source for getting the parts, because I respect your work ethics and Actual testing instead of just reading promotion material. You ara appreciated, very much so! Thanks again!
Well done, thank you for the video. It helped me to choose the next motherbord
I bought a B450 board based on your recommendation, still using it with a 5800X3D (also based on your reviews), and it's a great system. You guys always steer the consumer in the right direction, thank you!
Shout out to Balin filming all the boards
thanks for all your hard work m8
I'm not even subbed but I have to applaud your effort.
manufacturers: "we'll make SOOOO MANY types of boards that nobody in their right mind would bother testing them all!!!"
Steve: "hold my [coffee]"
Greeny industrial. So cool not making e-waste. Oh wait. Here we go again!
BEST VIDEO SO FAR from this channel, it's like reading a book of spesific review
This channel single-handedly makes choosing computer parts not a total nightmare! Thank you so much guys!
I just purchased my parts to build my new AM5 system, and THEN I find this channel. Luckily I seemed to have not messed up. A bit borderline, will need to make sure I keep my case cool.
Very grateful that someone takes the time and effort to test them. Waiting for the mini-itx. For the first time I'm thinking to come back to ATX from itx as the temps, W and heat seems to be rising in CPU and GPU every generation.
Cant wait for the upcoming buying guide. Thank you for all the hard work you madlads!
Amazing video - awesome work and detail, thanks! I just purchased the Asrock B650M Pro RS so this reassured me a bit. I only paid £120 for it after discounts, so it seems like a bargain of an AM5 board - especially since it has 3x M.2 NVMe slots. 😊
I got mine for $100 and it enables me to pair the board with a 7800x3d instead of 7700x so, I'm forever grateful. For the perf/price, and feature, this is the board to get IMO
Absolutely love the content, I have been using AORUS Elite AX (the first version) for a year thanks to your review las year. And thanks for shout out on the V2 cost reduction version, I think it should be a transparent information that some manufacturers wanna cut some corners after the huge success on the first version hoping that customers wouldn't notice it
B650M Pro RS WiFi owner here, thanks for confirming it was the right choice ;)
I just had this delivered 2 days ago (will do the build in the next few days). It seemed like an awesome board, hope it's working out well for you 😊
no USB 2x2? trashed
@@patrickderp1044 To some of us it matters jack shit. I have a mouse and keyboard on the same wireless fob on the backside, and that's it. Literally. If I use my wired game controller I plug it into the USB hub on the monitor. I don't also have any USB sticks that are faster than USB 2.0....
Impressive summary, Steve. I can't imagine how long that much testing must've taken.
Hardware Unboxed, you do not know how much videos like these help people buying new cccomponents with their hard-earned money. Cheers to you for all the hardwork
Also worth looking at when choosing motherboards is troubleshooting LEDs. Good ones have two 8-digit LEDs, others just give you individual leds for RAM/Power/CPU and you have to go from there. Having no feedback is a no go for me, I don't want to spend hours guessing what is wrong.
No one else provides such clear and direct information about motherboards like this channel does! Thanks as always for your service!
Definitely looking forward to the ITX roundup.
Outstanding video! Thanks for the testing and data. I'm still glad I bought my Taichi Lite. As you said, outstanding feature set for the (relatively) low price. If nothing else comes out with more competitive features for a lower price, I'll be buying a second when I do another build for my wife around black friday.
do you have any troubles with LAN intel e3100 controller?
Thanks for the hard work, much appreciated
I do not need a B650 m/b, but knowing how much work you always put into these videos, I had to click, watch, like, and comment. Thank you guys so much for what you're doing!
Thanks for the hard work Balin.
Thanks for the hard work! I'am from Brazil and you are very important here!
Wow! I came to this video because I already bought MSI B650M-P and hitting 105C !!!!
Added extra heatsink over heatsink went down to 100C
added 10 mm fan and down to 96 c.
changed fan to 20 mm and downed to 92c.
changed position of the fan downed to 89c
changed to 20 mm blower fan downed to 73 c!
Wow what a change and what a noise =)
I went with the MSI B650pro A- wifi in the end because of your video. Great board!
The best content about b650 mobos!
Thanks for your hard work which makes buying decisions easier for us.
I was just watching last years video getting ready for prime day
And then you drop this video!
Thanks!
Thank you, Steve. You're the Best Channel!
Thanks!
This was a crazy amount of work 😱
Thanks Steve! I was searching for B650 reviews yesterday and you heard my cry, unreal timing🙏
Thanks for the update and hard work Steve . Really appreciate it 👍
Incredibly good and really valuable video
I'm waiting for the itx edition boss. Keep up the nice work!
Thank you Steve for your excellent analysis of these boards!
ASRock is SO underrated... I have had ASRock products for over 10 years now and i love them.. Steady performance! Great value for money!
Currently i'm using a X670E Steel Legend for almost a year and i haven't had any issues. Also, i have the 7900 XTX Taichi which is a beast in performance, great cooling and beautiful aesthetically.
thank you for the hard work. This is so useful and interesting. This is why Hardware Unboxed is top notch
Respect for the hard work put in this video and others!
Great video, thanks Steve :D
Hey you are really thankful for the effort ❤
Great work! Looking forward to the Mini ITX roundup next!!
The MB MASTER its BACK... sit down and enjoy this INCREDIBLE amount of work !!
I always base my purchase on HU and I was NEVER dissapointed.
Keep working guys , you are the best. Cheers from Italy.
I got the Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX V2 B650 and have loved it. Memory training is fast. No issues at all. Very good experience out of the box with my 7800x3d and G.Skill 6000 RAM.
Here too! The V2 was the only version available when i was buying, & i'm so glad that Steve eventually covered it! 😄
This data is just gold… amazing buyers guide.
Awesome video!
Can’t wait for the ITX version.
Best reviewer ever, respect.
The work there goes in a video like this! Its amazing to watch! Data and detail is just on the point. THANK YOU!
I am so happy that I picked up the Aorus elite AX V1 last year by listening to your reviews. I'm glad to find out that it is still a good M.B.
You 're saying "I don't know why I do this" but let me tell you, your input is invaluable for someone like me: Haven't been up to PC hardware news for quite a long time. My PC is in need of an upgrade since it's a 10 y.o. platform. I live in a country with a smaller market so availability is hit or miss. And last but not least, a budget GPU is almost half of a month's wage. In view of those things, searching for advice and finding your videos on B650 motherboards (probably the best on the platform, if not the only one doing the round-up) is godsend. Thanks to you I've now narrowed it down to 3 models and I'm going to buy the cheapest one. Thank you!
Thanks Steve
Holy crap. This is it. The reference video for am5 mobos. Epic job HU! Sheeeeesh!
I suggest putting up a page where all the full test charts are posted, that would be great.
Absolute respect to you Steve! This looks like it would take a VERY long time.
🏆🏆🏆Wow, that's a material. Thank you guys for your hard work!
Steve master of boards, thanks for the impressive work!
Steve unlocking nuclear grade weaponised autism for this one. Superb work.
Wow, this is awesome! Thanks for all the hard work!
thanks2 props to rapid development from valve and amd radeon for fidelityfx and vsr
shoutout to the beast ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2
Can't wait for the motherboard buying guide. Thank you Steve!
the "$240" for the B650E Taichi Lite costs now after a 20€ price drop 310€. (which is the actual real price since the b650e taichi costs exactly the mentioned 364€ at the moment.
Same eu prices are dumb😢
@@deceivedonegaming6105We have VAT, the US price doesn’t include any taxes.
@@Simon_Denmark i understand that but its like 40% price increase..... bruh
@@deceivedonegaming6105 Yes but it actually isn't 40 % because a sales tax will be added to the 240 $ which depends on the state. The sales tax seems to only be around 10 % or less though. I don't know if theres other taxes or things that will increase the price. Some US citizen can correct this.
@@deceivedonegaming6105 But yeah our prices suck compared to USA. I'll have 25,5 % VAT soon.
I really appreciate this sort of roundup and review video. Thank you Steve for doing all this great work to help consumers find quality products in the heap of options out there.
How many B650 motherboards do you wanna test? Yes
i love these motherboard big videos. helps a ton since not all the models available everywhere so testing this much of motherboards is a bless. thanks Steve 🙏🏻
the asrock pro rs and the pg riptide both are amazing and don't cost you a kidney.
Motherboard testing must be a pain in the butt i don't want to think about.
Very appreciate your work. Thank you.
Excellent round up, I love watching this type of content...especially since I'm in the market for a B650 board.
I am glad that you guys are doing a buying guide. I plan on getting a 9000 series chip and was just going to do old school pen and paper and go through every board on the list and make a choice. Your guide will help my sanity and I am sure my doctor would appreciate it(kidding of course). It would be a wonderful guide for everyone, especially noobies, so do not have much of a guide or know what to and what not to look for. When I bought my first board, I made a lot of mistakes and It will save people the hassle and potentially money that could be spent elsewhere. You are amazing for testing all of these!!!!!!!!!!!!