People don't do only gaming, you know. Multiples monitors, 20+ tab opened , sometimes more than 10 videos of youtube + one or MORE streams opened too. Maybe 20 more tab for stock marketing and management. Only games ? That's console or just for kidos. 😂
@@Paraclef this comment makes no sense; honestly look up how computers work in one of those 600 tabs CPU/RAM would be more important in your use case regardless
I appreciate seeing the shoutouts to Tech Yes City and Hardware Unboxed. Both channels provide in-depth information that’s hard to find elsewhere and nice to see them getting some love.
I’m from the EU, and I got the B650 Steel Legend over a month ago. It’s almost flawless-good connectivity, very stable, plenty of power for the CPU, and an awesome white look. The only minor issue I have is the crappy ASRock RGB software, but that’s about it. If you can get your hands on it, it’s a no-brainer.
ASRock has crazy value for the money boards 🔴 Fun fact: *ASRock was originally spun off from Asus in 2002 by a founding member to compete with companies like Foxconn for the commodity OEM market, but now it's competing against Asus themselves* 🤣
Hello, I'm from Brazil and I ended up "parachuting" onto your channel! What insane quality, you delve into technical data, connectivity, etc. For example, I'm building a new PC but I was finding it difficult to find motherboards with optical output, due to my headset... and this video cleared all my doubts and Plus I learned a lot! Congratulations on the channel! Hugs
Asrock haa clearly put in effort to become one of the best board makers, especially for value. Some people who have been in the space for a while may still hold negative opinions of them due to how it was around 2016 and earlier, but as of now they seem to have massively improved.
As a ASRock Steel Legend WiFi B650E owner, I approve this message. It really is a fantastic board and I have absolutely ZERO reasons to upgrade to an X870E motherboard.
asrock is the only brand out of all these that was created specifically to manufacture motherboards. this means that if there are issues with their bios or software they're more likely to fix it quickly than brands like gigabyte that sell all kinds of products (I know asrock sells other products now too but they started as a motherboard company). i've seen so many people having issues with motherboards on reddit and asrock just seemed to be the most reliable brand on the software and stability side from what i learned
@@hooroos0027 you would be surprised by how long it takes some of the other companies like gigabyte to roll out important fixes. asrock definitively seemed like they take care of this sort of issues quicker
@@hooroos0027you have no idea what you’re talking about. it’s much harder to maintain quality control if a single brand manufactures many different products, even if they have different divisions. just look at SK Hynix, they recently started a separate company (Klevv) with the specific goal to keep high quality control for their RAM. you simply couldn’t have been more wrong buddy
Been using asrock in multiple builds now. Always great in value and had no issues at all. They will continue to be my #1 recommendation because it just works well. No drama or issues have come out of them as long as I remember
I think their graph chart showing thermals wasn't quite what it should've shown. It should've been like... here's performance top-down, and then in red the temperatures. Since some boards performed mostly fine even when ridiculously hot. Idk about this tier list video, I think without knowing performance difference a tier list isn't to be taken seriously. You can't trust a board on features alone.
@@ardeof Spot on! TH-cam is full of copy paste information disguised by either game clips or tier lists and then plastered with affiliate links in the description.
VERY IMPORTANT!!!! One thing I'd like to mention regarding the Asrock LiveMixer vs PG Lightning debate is that the LiveMixer has only 2 SATA3 slots, which makes it a much worse candidate for most people, including myself, as I have more than 2 hard drives that use SATA3. The only thing holding me from getting the PG Lightning is its lack of native wifi, cause for like 20€ more I could get a motherboard with the same VRM and wifi included.
Well done for providing valuable recommendation right upfront of the video! Rare and uncommon nowadays against "find out more later" kind of videos to get full views. Gentlemanly move sir!
I agree with you about the AliExpress motherboards because, in addition to my main PC that uses an ASRock X570 Pro4, I have a secondary PC that uses a Soyo B550M Monarch Dragon and a video editing PC that uses a Soyo B450M Classic. They work just fine.
@@Kkkkkk13456 Yeah, it's a pretty good board but the Soyo B550 Monarch Dragon costs less than $100CAD which makes it the better buy. I actually bought that exact same board from Canada Computers for $120CAD but then I saw the Soyo B450M Classic was $65CAD, I returned the B450M D3SH and bought TWO Soyo B450M Classics for about the same price. They work just fine and I actually used one in a build for my uncle.
i wish mainboard manufacturers would produce more mainboards with bluetooth (i know that mainboards with bluetooth have both bluetooth and wifi… there are just way more without them!)
Asrock b650m hdv/m.2 definitely A tier for its price/performance . It can even handle RAM tweaking/OCs just fine like those high priced mobos bcoz of dual channel memory layout. Im running 2x16gb ddr5 6000 cl30 kingston kit at 6400mts @cl 30 vsoc 1.295v . In my region i picked it up for 118$ few weeks back XD And reg the VRMs, the Asrock b650m hdv/m.2 has DrMosfets that are way efficient than those discrete mosfets. The msi pro b650s wifi has 12+2 power phase are not DrMosfets . Those are Doubled discrete mosfets which are not good compared to those DrMosfets that i mentioned earlier. Even the Msi b650 pro m-a has 55A power stages like Asrock b650m hdv/m.2 (50A). so ya MSI b650pro m-a goes a tier above the pro b650 m-s. Asrock b650 live mixer S tier for its price/features only drawback is its availability worldwide so the Asrock b6560m pg riptide is definitely A+ tier along with b650 pg lightning So Asrock b650m hdv/m.2 is A tier (extra point bcoz of amazing memory performance) Gigabyte b650 aorus series recent revisions has been reduced their pcb layers from 8 to 6 and low loss to mid loss pcbs . So ya they are not good as asrock series boards. Earlier revisions ya A+ tier but later revisions B+ tier .Msi b650 project zero has 10+2 DrMosfets unlike b650m gaming plus fake 10+2 discrete mosfets. They are not even close . its definitely B+ tier bcoz of its price Gigabyte b650 gaming x has 8+2 Dr mosfets it's B tier (bcoz of its Price) Again gigabyte b650 eagle ax and msi b650m -p wifi has descrete mosfets (B tier bcoz of features) Msi b650m pro -a is B tier Msi b650 pro -s is C tier
in Belgium, the Asrock b650m hdv/m.2 cost 127 euros or 140 usd, but i'm So going for this one. Here, the prices of equivalent motherboards is around 150 euros or more... So this video and your comment are very helpful, thanks !
This came in at the perfect time. Just last night I was going through motherboards & eventually drove myself crazy! I want an ATX motherboard that has modern PCIe gen 4 or 5 (not sure how much of a difference it'll make), same with NVMe slots, works out of the box and doesn't break the bank. There's so many that I eventually gave up trying. And do people still care about having 2 x separate NVMe drives, 1 for OS & 1 for games? I thought I had it figured out, but then I kept finding new info, like certain NVMe's have their own cache & people prefer those for OS. So I gave up. Glad this video can finally help clear things up!
Cheers, nice vid. What are those ASRock haters gonna say now: look at the top 5 boards: all ASRocks! Best overall board price to performance imho: the HDV/M.2. Cheap as chips and will run any 7000 and 9000 CPU's.
The Steel Legend of Asrock are the best. I still have my Asrock B450M Steel Legend and its still works like new. This board is insane value at the time. I would love to get another Steel Legend from Asrock when I get my Ryzen 5 7500F. Unfortunately no Asrock Board exists in my County(South Africa). The 300-400-500 series boards did exist, but not 600 series boards. Asrock please, come to South Africa. I would buy 10 boards since its such good value for money. The only boards we have are Gigabyte and Asus.
very good job, i was searching best motherboards for amd 9900x and they was so many price-tags and specs that I was lost in space , until your video found me. at least now I can narraw the search.
You're my #1 source of pc info. Just built a pc about two weeks with the 7600x3d and 7900 gre and couldn't be happier, it's a beast! Thanks for all the help goat
I LOVE these lists! Only request is that you try to do a little bit more ITX parts because it's really a growing segment and a lot of us are having a lot of issues finding info on ITX builds. Nice job!
Thank you for all of the info! 👍 Unfortunately i dont have much of options here... I like Tomahawk myself but not available anywhere in my country. Asrock and gigabyte as well... The only ones that's available are Asus brand, either ROG that expensive or TUF 🤷
ive got steel legend b450 since late 2019 and it's still working, amazing. Average lifespan for my mobos was 2 or 3 years, depending on warranty period.
I honestly was going to skip right over the video as I thought it was gonna be another tier list with no data or breakdowns but I was wrong. Video is great and I really like how in depth you go into each board even if they were low on the tier list! Glad I gave it a chance!
You missed what is probably ASUS's best b650 board here - the ProArt Creator. It's the _only_ b650 board that can run two GPUs both at x8, and has a 3rd slot too (although that shares lanes with one of the m.2 slots). Currently less than $200 at Microcenter. For anyone running VMs with a GPU passthrough two x8 slots are really useful.
Taichi really changed my mind from buying x870/e line, my only reason for considering 870 was because of usb 4. B650e taichi check all the box while having more premium feature/build(except wifi 7) compared to 870 boards at the same price range.
Didnt see this vid until now, just ordered the Asrock B650m Pro RS WiFi for $140 after tax. Will be my first am5 build for 2025. Stoked to hear it’s decent! 🎉
People crap on the ASUS B650M-A PRIME WIFI II all the time, but I have several builds with it combined with a monster 7950X/X3D and the VRMs run at a chilly 60C when overclocked after hours of stress test in a mini case with 3 silent fans. The non-II is the one with thermal issues.
Thank you for this, I was looking for B650M (I prefer Micro-ATX) that i need and I pick it through your tier list. Just ordered ASRock B650M PG Riptide, since the MSI MAG B650M Mortar is not available for me (Denmark). It's $145 so I'm excited for my coming build 😄 Gonna put Ryzen 7 7700 and RX 7900 XT in it 🥳
Just rebuilt my pc last night with a 7800x3D on an ASRock B650E Steel Legend. I honestly didn't do too much research on it, but I saw the power phase and the Gen 5 PCIe/M.2 and picked it up for future-proofing (I was also already leaning towards ASRock based on general mobo recommendations). Seemed like a great deal for the price and it was available where I was going to get the 7800x3D. Glad I made a good choice!
Just built my first AMD gaming rig. Always built intel previously. 7800x3d, 4090, x670e Asrock tachi, custom cooled, Evo rgb case. Might put the 9800x3d in it if its under $550 and i can sell my 7800x3d for atleast $400. If pricing on 5090 is correct, im staying with the 4090 for awhile. Yes i know its all overkill but its an enthusiast built that looks absolutely amazing. White build with purple fluid. I wish youtube allowed u to post pics in the comments. Crazy that i got a bundle at micro center for the cpu, ram, mb, and nvme for less than what the 7800x3d price has risen to in the last week.
I have the nzxt b650e white version like the one in the video which I will give to my brother. I ordered the gigabyte x870e ice and can't wait to get it.
I got the Strix B650E-F for my bro off ebay open box. It had no issues but some minor cosmetic wear. It was probably returned instantly and the guy got it off an amazon return auction and sold it forward. This was 2 years ago and it was essentially $200 USD before taxes. Great buy as I got him a quality board for essentially the price of the budget ones. Also got him a 7700x instead of a 7600x because the day I came home with the 7600x from Best Buy I see newegg had the 7700x on sale on ebay only for the same price. That was a quick buy and return.
Fantastic video. I've been using the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F, and the performance has been great thus far. It's ALWAYS 'overpriced' but you truly do get what you pay for in design and on-board features. That said, I'm loving those top 5 Asrock boards. If I have to build another B650E rig, of if this Asus board craps out, I'll certainly consider one of thos as a proper replacement.
The Gigabyte B650E Aorus Master would like a word please. Very similar to the Tachi. The B550 variant is good too. MSI made a nasty B550 board too, but I don't think they make a super high end 650 one. The issue I have with ALL B boards is PCI lanes. There is always a compromise. In the B550 boards, the high end ones had to reduce PCI slot 1 to 8x. I think the same is true here. For me, with sim racing equipment and VR dongles etc, there just are not enough PCI lanes in a B board.
a week ago i picked up the Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX V2 for $184.99 at Micro Center and i couldn't be happier. Especially enjoy having a Gen5 nvme slot and 3 nvme slots. I have it paired with a AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, g-skill 16g ram and a AMD Radeon 7900 XT.
Instantly skips to end and sees “so I see you skipped to the end” damn. He got me. I wanted to get the steel legend but it was sold out so I got the gaming X Ax instead and honestly it does everything that I need. Can’t complain
Your engaging style and logical choices make me watch your long videos without any discomfort. Before I started watching the video, I was sure that ASRock was the best and ASUS the worst when it comes to B650 motherboards. I noticed that one of the expensive boards, I think from Gigabyte, comes with only 6 layers! What I like about the Strix boards from ASUS is the audio system; it seems to be the best. Thank you, and as a suggestion, in the ranking, add a line for good products but overpriced, This will make the tier list ranking even better.
Gigabyte B650 Gaming Ax and AX V2 have very good vrm thermals with 16 core load even though its 8+2 vrm design, it should be C tier, hardware unlocked showed them having max backside temp of 67c when running 7950x full load
Watched the full video 👏 amazing. Thanks for explaining the nitty-gritty and nuances. I'll go with MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK with R9 7950x (even tho the mobo gives upto 170w power and the processor demands 170w)
This couldn’t have come at a better time! I’ve been shopping for a b650 (well aware to stay away from ASUS PRIME) but feeling a little lost. I’ve heard good things about ASROCK. THANK YOU for making this video, I clicked on it so fast. 😂🙏
Great video! I am trying to build a budget PC that uses an LGA 1700 socket. Can you make a tier list the same as this but for b760 motherboards? Thank you so much, your channel has been very helpful to me!
In Canada right now the in stock micro value buy is the Asrock B650M Pro RS Wifi. Yes, it could do better on VRMS but it has great features everywhere else and is really the only good micro-ATX board under $200 CAD. After that they instantly jump $50 more to I believe the PG Riptide Wifi. That's $130 USD and then it jumps to $170 USD.
I think you got confused about the MSI Pro B650M-P. You reviewed the B650-P specifically saying it was better than then B650M-P, but then the picture you put up was the M-P and later you referred to it as that. Great vid tho
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People don't do only gaming, you know. Multiples monitors, 20+ tab opened , sometimes more than 10 videos of youtube + one or MORE streams opened too. Maybe 20 more tab for stock marketing and management.
Only games ? That's console or just for kidos. 😂
@@Paraclef this comment makes no sense; honestly look up how computers work in one of those 600 tabs
CPU/RAM would be more important in your use case regardless
I appreciate seeing the shoutouts to Tech Yes City and Hardware Unboxed. Both channels provide in-depth information that’s hard to find elsewhere and nice to see them getting some love.
Picked up MSI-b650 tomahawk for $141 dollars in Japan, Akihabara today. Gotta love tax free electric town shopping.
Got mine for $170 on Amazon prime day and it's been great so far...No sales tax in my state, so there is that
The toimahawks always seem to be rocksolid picks.
@@Greenalex89 My last board was the b450 Tomahawk and I stuck with the series. That one is still running fine after almost 6 years.
so u imported it or someething?
Duty free shopping homie.
I’m from the EU, and I got the B650 Steel Legend over a month ago. It’s almost flawless-good connectivity, very stable, plenty of power for the CPU, and an awesome white look. The only minor issue I have is the crappy ASRock RGB software, but that’s about it. If you can get your hands on it, it’s a no-brainer.
You're lucky!
Been on a steel legend since 6 years with Ryzen 2700. Not a single problem yet.
Just got the Taichi lite one ... man design + performance 10/10 🔥🔥🔥
Great choice
Personally love it. Sleek and not too big looking still plenty of room in my case
What is taichi lite is sane price as the regular taichi? I should get the taichi then right and not the lite ? Or they different ?
ASRock has crazy value for the money boards
🔴 Fun fact: *ASRock was originally spun off from Asus in 2002 by a founding member to compete with companies like Foxconn for the commodity OEM market, but now it's competing against Asus themselves* 🤣
Ironic...That Asrock manages to outdo even Asus, the once hegemon of the PC world.
Yeah they use high end components on every GPU as well
Hello, I'm from Brazil and I ended up "parachuting" onto your channel!
What insane quality, you delve into technical data, connectivity, etc. For example, I'm building a new PC but I was finding it difficult to find motherboards with optical output, due to my headset... and this video cleared all my doubts and Plus I learned a lot!
Congratulations on the channel! Hugs
Asrock haa clearly put in effort to become one of the best board makers, especially for value. Some people who have been in the space for a while may still hold negative opinions of them due to how it was around 2016 and earlier, but as of now they seem to have massively improved.
I agree, they're better,
As a ASRock Steel Legend WiFi B650E owner, I approve this message. It really is a fantastic board and I have absolutely ZERO reasons to upgrade to an X870E motherboard.
asrock is the only brand out of all these that was created specifically to manufacture motherboards. this means that if there are issues with their bios or software they're more likely to fix it quickly than brands like gigabyte that sell all kinds of products (I know asrock sells other products now too but they started as a motherboard company). i've seen so many people having issues with motherboards on reddit and asrock just seemed to be the most reliable brand on the software and stability side from what i learned
I am pretty sure that each company has their own divisions, not one group of people managing everything, but yes, asrock is a good brand.
@@hooroos0027 you would be surprised by how long it takes some of the other companies like gigabyte to roll out important fixes. asrock definitively seemed like they take care of this sort of issues quicker
@@hooroos0027you have no idea what you’re talking about. it’s much harder to maintain quality control if a single brand manufactures many different products, even if they have different divisions. just look at SK Hynix, they recently started a separate company (Klevv) with the specific goal to keep high quality control for their RAM. you simply couldn’t have been more wrong buddy
@@hooroos0027 WHAT HE SAID ^^ also look up why asus started asrock. it was specifically for quality control. just delete your comment rofl lmao
Been using asrock in multiple builds now. Always great in value and had no issues at all. They will continue to be my #1 recommendation because it just works well. No drama or issues have come out of them as long as I remember
I got b650E taichi for 290 euro which was at the time 60-80 less euro than taichi lite!!
It's such a beast of a mobo and so beautiful
After watching hardware unboxed’s video on b650 boards, I really wanted a simple yes or no type guide like this. Thank you scattervolt!!
I think their graph chart showing thermals wasn't quite what it should've shown. It should've been like... here's performance top-down, and then in red the temperatures. Since some boards performed mostly fine even when ridiculously hot. Idk about this tier list video, I think without knowing performance difference a tier list isn't to be taken seriously. You can't trust a board on features alone.
@@ardeof Spot on! TH-cam is full of copy paste information disguised by either game clips or tier lists and then plastered with affiliate links in the description.
You put B650M-P on 2nd place of the Tier B list, instead of the B650-P.
VERY IMPORTANT!!!!
One thing I'd like to mention regarding the Asrock LiveMixer vs PG Lightning debate is that the LiveMixer has only 2 SATA3 slots, which makes it a much worse candidate for most people, including myself, as I have more than 2 hard drives that use SATA3.
The only thing holding me from getting the PG Lightning is its lack of native wifi, cause for like 20€ more I could get a motherboard with the same VRM and wifi included.
Well done for providing valuable recommendation right upfront of the video! Rare and uncommon nowadays against "find out more later" kind of videos to get full views.
Gentlemanly move sir!
I try! Thank you!
I agree with you about the AliExpress motherboards because, in addition to my main PC that uses an ASRock X570 Pro4, I have a secondary PC that uses a Soyo B550M Monarch Dragon and a video editing PC that uses a Soyo B450M Classic.
They work just fine.
Agreed, they just need more mainstream coverage
Bro i bought a
New Gigabyte GA-B450M DS3H V2 For AMD AM4 Ryzen, from aliexpress and i have waited 3 weeks and it didn,t came yet, but is it good
@@Kkkkkk13456 Yeah, it's a pretty good board but the Soyo B550 Monarch Dragon costs less than $100CAD which makes it the better buy. I actually bought that exact same board from Canada Computers for $120CAD but then I saw the Soyo B450M Classic was $65CAD, I returned the B450M D3SH and bought TWO Soyo B450M Classics for about the same price. They work just fine and I actually used one in a build for my uncle.
Yooo you’re the goat I was trying to choose one
My pleasure! Thanks for watching.
What did you end up with?
This came in right on time. Just got in my 7500F and was overwhelmed looking at all thr Mobo options
oh jesus, thank God for your video. I had a really bad time researching which b650 to get on my own. You helped me tremendously.
i wish mainboard manufacturers would produce more mainboards with bluetooth
(i know that mainboards with bluetooth have both bluetooth and wifi… there are just way more without them!)
If a motherboard comes with built in WiFi, then it typically has built in Bluetooth
why choose one when you can have both.
any motherboard with "wifi" in it's name has both dude
Mb with wifi are more expensive, and at that point someone will complain why they don't make mb cheaper without wifi
Asrock HDV/M.2 seems really good for budget am5 build. I'm gonna go with it with R5 7500F next time 😅
i got that with the rx 6700 xt
and 6000mhz cl30 ram
@@KiNGoNaTRoN ryzen 7 7700x 7800xt , 6000mhz cl34
7800x 3d here with that mobo. it runs perfectly
I recommend not considering prices in these rankings, as they tend to change over time.
Asrock b650m hdv/m.2 definitely A tier for its price/performance . It can even handle RAM tweaking/OCs just fine like those high priced mobos bcoz of dual channel memory layout. Im running 2x16gb ddr5 6000 cl30 kingston kit at 6400mts @cl 30 vsoc 1.295v . In my region i picked it up for 118$ few weeks back XD
And reg the VRMs, the Asrock b650m hdv/m.2 has DrMosfets that are way efficient than those discrete mosfets. The msi pro b650s wifi has 12+2 power phase are not DrMosfets . Those are Doubled discrete mosfets which are not good compared to those DrMosfets that i mentioned earlier. Even the Msi b650 pro m-a has 55A power stages like Asrock b650m hdv/m.2 (50A). so ya MSI b650pro m-a goes a tier above the pro b650 m-s.
Asrock b650 live mixer S tier for its price/features only drawback is its availability worldwide
so the Asrock b6560m pg riptide is definitely A+ tier along with b650 pg lightning
So Asrock b650m hdv/m.2 is A tier (extra point bcoz of amazing memory performance)
Gigabyte b650 aorus series recent revisions has been reduced their pcb layers from 8 to 6 and low loss to mid loss pcbs . So ya they are not good as asrock series boards. Earlier revisions ya A+ tier but later revisions B+ tier .Msi b650 project zero has 10+2 DrMosfets unlike b650m gaming plus fake 10+2 discrete mosfets. They are not even close . its definitely B+ tier bcoz of its price
Gigabyte b650 gaming x has 8+2 Dr mosfets it's B tier (bcoz of its Price)
Again gigabyte b650 eagle ax and msi b650m -p wifi has descrete mosfets (B tier bcoz of features)
Msi b650m pro -a is B tier
Msi b650 pro -s is C tier
in Belgium, the Asrock b650m hdv/m.2 cost 127 euros or 140 usd, but i'm So going for this one. Here, the prices of equivalent motherboards is around 150 euros or more... So this video and your comment are very helpful, thanks !
@@Badbab1 Glad it's helpful XD
Between asrock b650m pro rs wifi and msi pro b650-p, which one would you get?
@@vicente3kasrock
@@vicente3k if it's not 650m-p and costs below 160$ then msi or else asrock
Was thinking about getting an MSI mag tomahawk and definitely will now
I've pretty much stopped using ATX and now just use MATX. I'm pretty happy with the Asrock PG Riptide B650M
This came in at the perfect time. Just last night I was going through motherboards & eventually drove myself crazy!
I want an ATX motherboard that has modern PCIe gen 4 or 5 (not sure how much of a difference it'll make), same with NVMe slots, works out of the box and doesn't break the bank.
There's so many that I eventually gave up trying. And do people still care about having 2 x separate NVMe drives, 1 for OS & 1 for games? I thought I had it figured out, but then I kept finding new info, like certain NVMe's have their own cache & people prefer those for OS.
So I gave up. Glad this video can finally help clear things up!
Did a build with the Asrock B650E Steel Legend WiFi on a Ryzen 7500F and a RX6800. Running excellent
im building the same but with the 4070 Super when it gets discounted on Black friday
I've been trying to decide on a motherboard for my AM5 CPU, and this video is a blessing!
My pleasure!
Cheers, nice vid. What are those ASRock haters gonna say now: look at the top 5 boards: all ASRocks! Best overall board price to performance imho: the HDV/M.2. Cheap as chips and will run any 7000 and 9000 CPU's.
It really doesn't help that the tomahawk doesn't have a pci 5.0 m.2 slot, otherwise it could be slightly higher.
The Steel Legend of Asrock are the best. I still have my Asrock B450M Steel Legend and its still works like new. This board is insane value at the time. I would love to get another Steel Legend from Asrock when I get my Ryzen 5 7500F. Unfortunately no Asrock Board exists in my County(South Africa). The 300-400-500 series boards did exist, but not 600 series boards. Asrock please, come to South Africa. I would buy 10 boards since its such good value for money. The only boards we have are Gigabyte and Asus.
very good job, i was searching best motherboards for amd 9900x and they was so many price-tags and specs that I was lost in space , until your video found me. at least now I can narraw the search.
You're my #1 source of pc info. Just built a pc about two weeks with the 7600x3d and 7900 gre and couldn't be happier, it's a beast! Thanks for all the help goat
I appreciate you actually took additional time to make this video, some people rush vids like theses and don't give enough data or false data.
I LOVE these lists! Only request is that you try to do a little bit more ITX parts because it's really a growing segment and a lot of us are having a lot of issues finding info on ITX builds. Nice job!
Thank you for all of the info! 👍
Unfortunately i dont have much of options here... I like Tomahawk myself but not available anywhere in my country. Asrock and gigabyte as well... The only ones that's available are Asus brand, either ROG that expensive or TUF 🤷
ive got steel legend b450 since late 2019 and it's still working, amazing. Average lifespan for my mobos was 2 or 3 years, depending on warranty period.
my budget specs
asrock b650 hdvm2
ryzen 7500f
6000 mhz cl30
rx 6700 xt
it rocks good
thanx for everything
now i am happy 🎉
I honestly was going to skip right over the video as I thought it was gonna be another tier list with no data or breakdowns but I was wrong. Video is great and I really like how in depth you go into each board even if they were low on the tier list! Glad I gave it a chance!
Would like to see tier lists for non gaming PC’s. For people that do audio production, video production, coding and work like that.
You missed what is probably ASUS's best b650 board here - the ProArt Creator. It's the _only_ b650 board that can run two GPUs both at x8, and has a 3rd slot too (although that shares lanes with one of the m.2 slots). Currently less than $200 at Microcenter. For anyone running VMs with a GPU passthrough two x8 slots are really useful.
this is amazing!, I was trying to pick a motherboard for my build
Awesome awesome!
Taichi really changed my mind from buying x870/e line, my only reason for considering 870 was because of usb 4. B650e taichi check all the box while having more premium feature/build(except wifi 7) compared to 870 boards at the same price range.
perfect timing 2 days ago i was deciding about which mobo to take for my little brothers 1000 build and this video pops out almost like a sign XD
Amazing
Great video, I checked and even for high intensity video editing no more than 8 cores seems to be the recommended amount needed.
just got me an msi b650 carbon wifi for a pretty good price of 250cad, quite excited for it to arrive. great video, very informative :)
Neat
Been on the lookout for this video since you made that poll a few days ago. 🤙🏼
Great video; one suggestion, in the video description, categorize the MB the same as the video. It will be helpful to figure out which ones to buy
I don't want to spoil my rankings from the video already in the description lol
Love your tier list series!!! As a newbie to pc building these are incredibly informative. Please continue making these.
Very happy with Asrock B650 Steel Legend Wifi for 183 EUR in Germany.
Planning to get 9800X3D for it.
Didnt see this vid until now, just ordered the Asrock B650m Pro RS WiFi for $140 after tax. Will be my first am5 build for 2025. Stoked to hear it’s decent! 🎉
Built a new PC this month. Just saw your channel. Pretty happy to see that every single component I picked is S-tier. Call it intuition lol I dunno.
People crap on the ASUS B650M-A PRIME WIFI II all the time, but I have several builds with it combined with a monster 7950X/X3D and the VRMs run at a chilly 60C when overclocked after hours of stress test in a mini case with 3 silent fans. The non-II is the one with thermal issues.
Thank you for this, I was looking for B650M (I prefer Micro-ATX) that i need and I pick it through your tier list. Just ordered ASRock B650M PG Riptide, since the MSI MAG B650M Mortar is not available for me (Denmark). It's $145 so I'm excited for my coming build 😄 Gonna put Ryzen 7 7700 and RX 7900 XT in it 🥳
I bought ASRock Riptige B650E (I'm going with black build for my PC), for 150$, can't be happier about this deal. ASRock really nailed it.
the exact video i needed to put my new 7700xt on:) thank you sir!
Just rebuilt my pc last night with a 7800x3D on an ASRock B650E Steel Legend. I honestly didn't do too much research on it, but I saw the power phase and the Gen 5 PCIe/M.2 and picked it up for future-proofing (I was also already leaning towards ASRock based on general mobo recommendations). Seemed like a great deal for the price and it was available where I was going to get the 7800x3D. Glad I made a good choice!
Asrock is goated this generation of motherboards
I love your tier ranking videos with this one being my favorite (so far).
Please more.
ASRock B650E Taichi Lite is almost 400 usd here in Sweden. B650 Steel Legend WIFI is like 270.
Just built my first AMD gaming rig. Always built intel previously. 7800x3d, 4090, x670e Asrock tachi, custom cooled, Evo rgb case. Might put the 9800x3d in it if its under $550 and i can sell my 7800x3d for atleast $400. If pricing on 5090 is correct, im staying with the 4090 for awhile. Yes i know its all overkill but its an enthusiast built that looks absolutely amazing. White build with purple fluid. I wish youtube allowed u to post pics in the comments. Crazy that i got a bundle at micro center for the cpu, ram, mb, and nvme for less than what the 7800x3d price has risen to in the last week.
I myself have an Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus Motherboard, i got it in August for around 160€ (~175$ at that time) and i'm really happy with it :)
I have the nzxt b650e white version like the one in the video which I will give to my brother. I ordered the gigabyte x870e ice and can't wait to get it.
I got the Strix B650E-F for my bro off ebay open box. It had no issues but some minor cosmetic wear. It was probably returned instantly and the guy got it off an amazon return auction and sold it forward. This was 2 years ago and it was essentially $200 USD before taxes. Great buy as I got him a quality board for essentially the price of the budget ones. Also got him a 7700x instead of a 7600x because the day I came home with the 7600x from Best Buy I see newegg had the 7700x on sale on ebay only for the same price. That was a quick buy and return.
The timing of this video was just perfect for me. Great video, works like a guide and cheat sheet. Liked and subscribed! Thanks!
Your tierlist videos are some of my favourite on TH-cam. Yeah I'm a nerd, but so are you guys hehe :D
Please What About Gigabyte Aorus B650E Master on which Tier it should be ?
Awesome video! I would really like to see the onboard audio solution factored into the ranking someday
Love the video!
Do you think you can make a tier list video for Intel Motherboards? Would appreciate it so much.
Which is better? MSI Pro X870-P Wi-Fi or b650e wifi steel legends
Fantastic video. I've been using the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F, and the performance has been great thus far.
It's ALWAYS 'overpriced' but you truly do get what you pay for in design and on-board features.
That said, I'm loving those top 5 Asrock boards. If I have to build another B650E rig, of if this Asus board craps out, I'll certainly consider one of thos as a proper replacement.
ASUS ROG STRIX B650E-E GAMING WIFI The Best, Forgotten Weird! The VRM power stage is composed of 16+2 phases
Great List! Why is Asus Tuf B650M-E WIFI lower tier than Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX? Dilemma between the two board. Assuming they are the same price.
Watch why I ranked it there from the video lol
I provide my explanations for every motherboard ranking from this video
The Gigabyte B650E Aorus Master would like a word please. Very similar to the Tachi. The B550 variant is good too. MSI made a nasty B550 board too, but I don't think they make a super high end 650 one. The issue I have with ALL B boards is PCI lanes. There is always a compromise. In the B550 boards, the high end ones had to reduce PCI slot 1 to 8x. I think the same is true here. For me, with sim racing equipment and VR dongles etc, there just are not enough PCI lanes in a B board.
Great video! Wish it came out 4 months ago before I bought the STRIX B650E-F :D
video like this is really really handy for us !! thank you guys !!
hoping more video like this one with diffrent hardware sir...
what other hardware would you like to see ranked?
@@ScatterVolt maybe H series motherboard for intel ? or B perhaps ?
Appreciate the hard work you put in ranking all these motherboards. Great video.
a week ago i picked up the Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX V2 for $184.99 at Micro Center and i couldn't be happier. Especially enjoy having a Gen5 nvme slot and 3 nvme slots. I have it paired with a AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, g-skill 16g ram and a AMD Radeon 7900 XT.
Neat.
Would you mind subscribing to my channel? I’m almost at 500,000 subs!
Instantly skips to end and sees “so I see you skipped to the end” damn. He got me. I wanted to get the steel legend but it was sold out so I got the gaming X Ax instead and honestly it does everything that I need. Can’t complain
Thanks for putting so much time and effort in making this video. This will help out many people in getting the best value MB.❤
I got an Asrock B650 Steel legend Wifi AND a 7800X3D just a few weeks ago. I'm totally satisfied with the purchase.
Any issues with steel legend or cpu ? How much were they? And what gpu and ram ?
got this one as well (183 euro germany). planning for a 9800x3d build.
asrock b650m hdv is such a good board for the price imo, has all of the essentials, i snagged mine for 100 a week ago couldn't be happier
Except for included wifi lol
Really useful information Scattervolt ⚡ 👍
Your engaging style and logical choices make me watch your long videos without any discomfort.
Before I started watching the video, I was sure that ASRock was the best and ASUS the worst when it comes to B650 motherboards.
I noticed that one of the expensive boards, I think from Gigabyte, comes with only 6 layers!
What I like about the Strix boards from ASUS is the audio system; it seems to be the best.
Thank you, and as a suggestion, in the ranking, add a line for good products but overpriced, This will make the tier list ranking even better.
Gigabyte B650 Gaming Ax and AX V2 have very good vrm thermals with 16 core load even though its 8+2 vrm design, it should be C tier, hardware unlocked showed them having max backside temp of 67c when running 7950x full load
Thanks for the video I’m in the market for an amd 5 board to pair with a 7500f.
Is there any harm buying refurbished tomohawk MSI?
Watched the full video 👏 amazing. Thanks for explaining the nitty-gritty and nuances. I'll go with MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK with R9 7950x (even tho the mobo gives upto 170w power and the processor demands 170w)
I found the Gigabyte Elite AX Ice for 180€. Is it worth it or should I go for the Asrock B650 Steel Legend that costs 35€ more?
This couldn’t have come at a better time! I’ve been shopping for a b650 (well aware to stay away from ASUS PRIME) but feeling a little lost. I’ve heard good things about ASROCK. THANK YOU for making this video, I clicked on it so fast. 😂🙏
i really like the explanation for noobs and intermediate people which is me keep it up
Great video! I am trying to build a budget PC that uses an LGA 1700 socket. Can you make a tier list the same as this but for b760 motherboards? Thank you so much, your channel has been very helpful to me!
In Canada right now the in stock micro value buy is the Asrock B650M Pro RS Wifi. Yes, it could do better on VRMS but it has great features everywhere else and is really the only good micro-ATX board under $200 CAD. After that they instantly jump $50 more to I believe the PG Riptide Wifi. That's $130 USD and then it jumps to $170 USD.
48:09 The Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite AX price today on Newegg is $180. So would that move it up in the Tiering levels? If so, by how much? Thanks.
Objective approach, thank you. Liked it.
Thank you for watching!
@@ScatterVolt you are welcome. peace from Indonesia
Lucked out, doing a blackout no rgb build and found an open box Asrock PG B650 Lightning for $109. Perfect.
great post, had trouble with the MSI MEG tomahawk, could be i just got a bad motherboard
I got mine in april and works perfect,could be you just got unlucky.
Great video, do you have a video for all the 670 mobos? Or maybe make one for all the 870 after some time.
Thanks for the comprehensive video Really useful information 💪🔥
Just bought Steel Legend 650 (no e) on ebay slightly used. Hasn't arrived yet but I'm excited to build with it.
I think you got confused about the MSI Pro B650M-P. You reviewed the B650-P specifically saying it was better than then B650M-P, but then the picture you put up was the M-P and later you referred to it as that. Great vid tho
I found this video really helpful. Can you please do a video for B760 or whatever mobo works with intel
Just bought a asrock b650 steel legend, so happy.