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HOLLOW IRON BATTLE: TAYLORMADE P790 v MIZUNO MP20 HMB IRONS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- HOLLOW IRON BATTLE: TAYLORMADE P790 v MIZUNO MP20 HMB IRONS
With lots of manufacturers making hollow headed irons two of the best go head to head with the TaylorMade P790 taking on the Mizuno MP20 HMB. Both great clubs packed full of technology but which is the best?
Consistency seemed way better on the mizuno. Had some silly numbers on the P790. That would be an issue in real golf...
Had a fitting a couple of weeks ago and had my heart set on the P790's but the front to back dispersion with the Mizunos was way tighter for me. Just waiting for them to arrive.
Seeing way better distance consistency with Mizuno
Agree, +/- 2.2 yds vs +/- 13 yds. Unless there was a trackman error one p790 jumped above 190 yds carry, would fly over most greens in real play.
Why not talk about that 195 P790 hit? My playing partners have experienced the same thing, the hot long strike with 790. The consistency of the HMB wins and in my opinion it looks much better as well.
Key concern with P790 is distance control, one strike is 3mm low and 3mm in the toe and flies 195 (194.8) yards and two shots before a middled strike 5mm in the toe travels 175 (175.2) yards. So a strike that is 2-3mm difference from centre is coming up with 20 yards difference in carry! That is fundamentally the difference between being pin high on the green or over the back in the hay or on the next tee box!
Front to back dispersion was a couple yards with the Mizuno but over 20 yards with the p790, it seems like the p790 is not consistent when you do not hit the middle.
Front to back dispersion. Mizuno hands down!
Mizuno hands down on looks too. I hate that TM screw!
p790 from 155 to 195 that's a big gap.
You can't score with a 40 yard difference between a good and bad strike. So much for forgiveness resulting in better dispersion!
I was going to say the same thing. On two good strikes one carried 172 yards and the other almost 195. More than 20 yards difference on same strike and same speed. Not good.
You lost a ball on the 195 shot that should have went 170
Questioning his bias if he's completely ignoring the horrible inconsistency of the P790. Plus it looks better than the Mizuno? The P790 is one of the most 'blah' irons I've ever seen.
Had mizunos and recently got fitted for P790s.
This is the same problem I get with my i500....when dead nut one in the exact center, you get a hot ball carrying over the green 10 yards...can be rather frustrating.
162-194 carry with the P790...that as problem
Here’s a problem with the P790 straight away - I bought a set of these and went back to blades for this reason: the difference between a good strike and one that’s slightly off can see a massive difference in distance. A scoring iron like a 7 iron, deviating by 20 or more yards in the hands of someone who good striking ability is next to useless on the course.
Distance control with the P790 is inferior to the Mizuno. Looks are very important no doubt, but how can you plan for a hot ball carry 20-30 yards over the green?
I got fitted last week by my club fitter and I have the P790 irons on the way 👍
One of those P790 shots went 195 carry/213 total when the rest were in the 160-180 carry range. The MP20s were quite a bit more consistent and carried around the same overall with 1.5 less loft. Could be a misread I guess though when I hit the P790 I had similar results with 1 out of 5 15 yards further than the others.
I thunk there was a little water on the ball from being cleaned.
@@AliTaylorGolf poor response, so if I get a dewy morning I have to worry whether my 170 club is going to fly 195 with 3000 less spin...I don't think so
@@AliTaylorGolf and the 155 carry? Covered in mud?
Jamie Ellis Depends if the debris gets in between club face and ball, reducing friction.
how is this even comparable there's a 1.5 degree difference in loft, spin rates on the p790 are variable. And the shaft lengths are longer in the taylormade
162, 175, 172, 173, 194, 155... yes, I would complain. Those impacts were not too extreme and it there is a 32 yard gap....ouch!
39 yard gap
Finally got a chance to hit the hmb great club but here in Canada they are 2 grand with taxes I’m sorry that’s a hard pass for me
After watching several reviews of the Mizuno HMB's, the only complaint I heard was slightly more chunky top line. My question is, if you didn't have the clubs side by side would you notice the top line at all?
i thought it was blade length
Andy Seidler I just tried both at a fitting. Currently play MP-64, which is and the same size as the blades, so both are much larger than what I'm used to but I'm getting old so looking for more help. The 6-iron basically the same size - the P790 is 1-1.5mm shorter. The HMB looks chubbier because Mizuno rounded the topline where TaylorMade beveled it. I prefer the TM look & the P790 is a fantastic iron for slower speed players. I ended up going with the HMB because they were really consistent front to back, which makes my total shot area much smaller than with the P790s. When you really catch it right, the P790 goes DEEP & that's not what I want.
Your dispersion front to back was sooooo much better with the Mizuno
Definitely can't go wrong with either club brand. I've already go the 790s, and I tested the new ones, but didn't notice much difference. At least not enough to go for the new. I'm waiting to try the MP-20s and see if they can crack open my wallet. I like their blendability.
That cary distance on the TM was all over the place, id take the mizuno on its consistency alone, its miss hit didnt drop off like the TM either.
The Mizuno is very good
Mizzys all day, buttery soft feel
Had my heart set on the p790s but my fitting they did the same thing as this video, massive front to back dispersion issues. You had 40 yards, I had 35 yards. Hmb for you was 7 yards front to back, same as me. No way on earth if you want to play consistent golf can you have that discrepancy.
I went hmb 3-6 mb 7-p
great. very informative. thanks
What are your thoughts on the play ability of the HMB for a 15 HC, Don't have a ton of swing speed, 78 to 80 mph with a 6 iron. Have no problem getting the 900 Forged up in the air, 6 iron carry distance about 145'ish.
Got a Taylormade custom fit advertisement behind him and this should be considered unbiased?
+Jayme Goode It’s not an advert, it’s the TM wall in our fitting studio
@@AliTaylorGolf Wheres your Mizuno Advertisement?
Yep that's the difference great players miss right or left, as where amateurs miss the distance short or long aka precision players.
I played Taylormade for 20 plus years and tested the P790’s and was ready to buy before the salesman asked me to hit the MP20 HMB’s. I did and then I said #*$& you to the salesman and bought the MP20’s. They were so soft and the ball jumped off the club face, I also like the traditional lofts.
'If I had to go on looks I'd lean towards the P790'
... Proof that an opinion can actually be a wrong answer.
is 4200 spin rate a concern? good launch angle but is that stopping power a worry?
After watching this video, I think that all future club tests are a waste of time unless you retrieve the ball you hit and keep hitting it. Or you just have to use new Titleist Pro V1 or Pro V1x
Each to their own mate but Specsavers can help you 😂👍🏻
I like your videos, but just wondering how tall are you? What length shafts are you playing? For some reason it appears your hands are really low in your setup. Not a criticsm as you can obviously strike it, just wondering. Also, don't forget to mention the P790 is 1.5 degrees stronger in the 7 iron.
Mp-20 more consistent. I don't want suprises like that 213yards you hit. If theres water behind ill be spewin for hitting the ball pure? I switched to Mp-20 for this reason.
The p790s were 20 yards longer than the hmb for me. Couldn’t pass that up
The low shot, you edited out a hit ball by the mizuno, even if it's a bad strike, these should be put in to give us a good feeling of how you made your mind up
He did this a few times on both clubs. Check 8:40 for the most obvious edit.
P790 front to back dispersion seemed wide to me.
Enjoy your content! "Looks and feel" - so British. Americans lean towards performance over looks and feel. You are wearing your cooler weather clothing already? Come to central Florida. I'll treat you to some incredible golf courses playable year around. 😊 In fact, November, December, and January we will likely be in short sleeves.
I play P790 and was going to switch to the MP20 HMB. Any thoughts?
Both great clubs, I think in the mid to longer irons the blade size of HMB will really appeal
I just did a trackman fitting and man that P790 ball speed was FUN. I ended up turning it down for the HMB because distance dispersion was much tighter, I liked the feel better, and they're so gorgeous in the bag (sounds stupid but golf is a mental game).
FWIW I've played TM irons in the past but current set is Mizuno. Mizunos also age very well - I've seen PXGs only a few years old that look like total garbage.
It wasn't enough to beat out the HMB for me but also give the Titleist T200 a try. I've always hated Titleist irons but the fitter made me try them and I was blown away. Another really good option.
Does Europe shape players into "Draw" players rather than "Fade" Players? Noticing almost all reviewers that are coaches tend to draw everything as opposed to the Americans.
This is a complete over generalization but as Americans we play baseball as kids which is naturally an out to in swing. No bad habits for Europeans to get over. Even with cricket, you have a low, in to out swing which promotes a draw.
I'd put it down to a lot of windy coastal links golf growing up. That's my excuse anyway 🙄
If water on the ball makes the ball go drastically different distances.....there's my new excuse. Since I live in N Yorkshire there is ALWAYS water on the ball......so it's not MY fault.
Awful numbers with that P790 155 to over 190 yards difference and Ali all you did was say it was what you would have expected
Jesus, the front to back dispersion on that P790 is terrible
To be fair the golf balls had been washed, there could have been a bit a moisture on the 195 carry.
See mygolfspy's report on distance players irons, and then decide. Don't think this review does dispersion well...for whatever reason.
Went and hit them last weekend, they weren’t this bad to be fair but still not great. The Mizuno MP-20 HMB’s were awesome, going with them.
@@serendipityuk Thanks for letting us know.
why are all these you tubers comparing the two irons i am interested in? get off my lawn!
side note, it seems like whenever i land short of the green on a par 3 my ball never releases up onto the green
Haitch Em Bee
Saw a few edited shots (eg. 8:40) . He's either cherry picking shots or flubbing a few. Lol.
sorry Ali it's just manufacturers bull
What is?
3:45 - And there you have it folks. This BS line about how these big headed tennis rackets are so much more forgiving than players irons has just been debunked!
why don't you be a pro like Ali and miss hit every other one
He looks up before contact .
@Matthew Moore so they will be better if keep looking at the ball.
@Matthew Moore th-cam.com/video/bHmhpfHERC8/w-d-xo.html not sure why you think he look up before contact.
jkust have a lesson and become a better golfer. not what youtube want just money