One caveat I'd throw out there if you are basing your choice on handicap, is understand WHY you are at your handicap. When I was around an 18, it wasn't my ball striking that was the problem. I just never saw a 3 putt i didn't like. Once I got with a decent putting coach, i dropped to a 6 handicap. I was using Titleist AP2 the entire time. So just adjust your scale accordingly.
I’m a 15 handicap and was recently fit for Mizuno’s. I really wanted the 225 Pro’s as I love the look of those irons. However, the JPX923 Forged provided me with much more consistent performance and are now in my bag producing great results. Just another example of why a good fitting is so important.
But the problem with fitting, especially if you are new ish, as you get better those expensive fitted clubs Will get to the end of Their best for you this can also happen quite quickly to people.
@@MrSupermugen not untrue but that’s why places like Golfbidder exist. If you were fitted for a nice set of Mizuno JPX 923 a year ago, and have already improved to where something more bladey would progress your game, provided you have looked after your Mizunos, they would still fetch a decent amount on resale. Same deal with moving on from game improvement irons. In fact, you’d probably have even more chance of someone bidding on your game improvement irons since new golfers don’t want to spend a tonne of cash on clubs they are just trying to learn how to hit.
I am a high handicapper and I have the Cobra T-Rails. Yeah, they look a bit weird but they gave me back the confidence, I might actually enjoy golf and maybe get better. Awesome clubs for beginners and high handicappers.
I couldn’t agree more I had them for a year till I got much more consistent in my swing then moved to ping g425 Played 3 years now cobra got me down to 17/18 and ping got me down to 11.4 current
I just bought a set of T300s after using a set of hand me downs for 15 years...what a wild change to my game. They are absoloute rocket ships and the weight placement in the head of the club has helped enormously in my swing with much more consistent centre strikes because of the feel of everything. Couldnt be happier. (18ish handicap)
I'm a 8 handicap and I got custom fitted for my irons 3 years ago. The Titleist T-300 irons were the best all around, most consistent irons for me. Great clubs
Yet they may be really good, I turn away from Titleist, Callaway and TaylorMade. Now playing a purfect lovely set of Nicklaus-Miura Commerative LE set, which run from P to 3-iron, and is really something special! And customed to my specs. It is like sucking speck while you pure a 3-iron, but missing a wedge will loosen your fillings in the back teeth. Lovely sticks!
I've just started playing again after a 20 year hiatus. Tried many different clubs from lots of brands. Ended up with a set of G430's. By far the most comfortable club for me out of all the ones I tested. For someone in my position its a great club
Nice video Pete! As a golf equipment geek here is my personal handicap scale list: 25+ - Cleveland Launcher Halo 18-25 - Taylormade Stealth 10-18 - Srixon ZX7 5-10 - Mizuno JPX 923 Tour 5 and under - Callaway Apex MB
Holy Crap! I went from about a 10 to 3 handicap with nike vapor pro combos. Bought them new (my first and only new set of irons in my life) the year Nike stopped making clubs. Still love them! Good Call Finch!
As an 18 handicap and owner of Titleist T-300 irons I was elated to see these clubs made the list. They are very forgiving irons that still allow me to shape shots when I need to, not to mention they look and feel great.
I'm a big fan of the hollow bodied irons. I've hit the 225 and it felt great. Currently play PXG Gen 3 0311P. That category of irons has added a lot of joy to my game.
My cousin who’s trying to be an semi pro golfer, had some Taylor made blades mb tour play just chilling in storage and he passed them too me cause he upgraded, learned how to play golf with blades. My friends and brother who is a golfer told me I was learning golf the hard way but after 5 months. Puring blades is so satisfying
@@dmkfactor1721as someone who is personally floating around a 20 handicap but shaved ~5 off of it this year just from actually getting better, I’d 100% volunteer to borrow and play some blades for a round to look like a doofus and have fun and hopefully provide some entertainment to others 🤣
I've fluctuated between a 0-3 handicap over the last 10 years depending on how frequently I play and practice. Mizuno has consistently made irons that work well for me and I've played the Mizuno JPX 919 tour's for the last several years. From what I hear they are fairly similar to the Mizuno pro 223's. I like having a little extra forgiveness than a blade iron but also still keeping a fairly accurate club.
I’m a 4 handicap. Played the jpx 900 and got down to 4 from 20. The 223’s are letting me control the shoe so well. Whilst im not really ready for full blades yet.
Okay, I’ve always scratched my head about the obsession around the kislux book totes and their practicality, but this one is adorable!! Congratulations
Been playing for a little under a year, currently at a 24 hcp but got fitted for mizuno 223s my fitter said the only reason he gave me my clubs is because of my swing speed, can definitely tell they’re a harder club to hit but I love the feeling when I get a pure one!
I'm a 54 handicap beginner golfer and bought a cheap used set of clubs which turned out to be forged blades. Not the best beginner set, but I reckon they will teach me to hit the center fairly quickly
Got back into golf after more than 15 years since I picked up a club. Thanks to yours and Rick Shiels golfbidder videos, I was able to build my bag using old clubs. Used but fitted to more of my amateur level to ease me back into it.
I got fitted to the T300s a few years ago, and I LOVE them. I shot a 96 over the weekend. I can only imagine how much higher it would have been if I had the T100s
Me too, been playing them for a year and love them. Lowered my handicap from 35 to 24, still nothing impressive, but I'll be playing these for the foreseeable future.
My coach that I go to now, a former Korn Ferry tour player, told me clubs that are made for pro should only be played by pros! He said play clubs you like, and always stick to clubs that offer more forgiveness! If you’re not playing and practicing daily with a plus handicap you really shouldn’t be playing tour level equipment. His opinion!
I took a 14 year break and when I came back to golf I chose the cobra sz irons they were easy to hit high and long. I’m currently down to a 8 HC. And dropping. I love golf.
I also have the Cobra sz iron and was thinking about changing to Srixon Zx4 or Zx5. Do you find the SZ to be too Game Improvey especially since you're a low handicap?
@@jonathontorres948 not at all I still enjoy gaming them and I’m currently down to a six hc I’m even playing a graphite shaft and supposedly that doesn’t help with dispersion. Are they sexy no. But really effortless to strike well. Hope that helps.
I am a 10 Hdcp and play the PING 425 irons. I generally shoot high 70s to low 80s. Struggle with consistency, mostly by trying to swing too hard and not looking at the ball when striking it
I just bought a set of G430s. I have the same peek a boo and swing speed issues. Lol I tend to jersey the club down at the top of my backswing, which I'm working on smoothing out.
I started playing a year or so ago after a 30 year break... I got hold of some used 1980s Spalding clubs and couldn't get much distance out of them (back issues, getting old etc). I went along to a Srixon fitting day and the guy pointed me to Cleveland Launcher XLs with stiff graphite shafts to raise my ball speed and, oh my God, it was like hitting butter. I managed to get the distance I should have been for my very high handicap and I'm loving playing even more, and I can keep up the pace with my mates because I'm now not topping, slicing or hooking every shot into trees and bushes. Now to get some lessons!
I'm an average handicapper that hovers around 11 - 12 . I currently have the P-790 5i to AW the love the feel when middled, also love the feedback on off centred hits.. they keep you honest.
As a 22 handicap, I got a set of Cobra LTDX irons, regular steel KBS shafts. I just love these irons that offer me confidence, distance and good dispersion. So happy with them.
13 hdcp. I use the Cleveland Launcher UHX in combo with the Launcher Halo Hybrids. I love the clubs, especially the hybrids. So much easier to hit than lower irons.
10 handicap, was playing Wilson Staff D7 forged, they got me from 28 down to 10. Just traded them in and got the Cobra King Tour irons! They’re lovely to look at and feel amazing ✌️
Just got the Wilson D9 forged after scoring under 100 pretty consistently and have already shaved 2-4 shots off my score over 3 rounds with them. Absolutely love the feel coming from hitting Dunlop Surpass Irons 😳 for the first couple years of my golf journey
I'm 19.5 currently and I play i230s with the project-x R flex steel shafts. I absolutely love these irons! They Launch and are very forgiving. They look more like a players iron, but have a cavity for plenty of forgiveness.
I hover around an 11, and after trying everything at Club Champion I ended up with the T300s in a stiff shaft. My launch angle, descent angle, carry distance, total distance, and dispersion all improved. At first I was pretty pissed I was stuck playing a "training wheels" iron, but I simply play them better. They don't feel great (like hitting a ball with a marshmallow), but they go straighter and longer, more often.
Just bought a brand new set of Rouge st max irons from callaway and those are the beat irons I've hit. Spent most of last year trying out tons of pings and few callaways and Taylor made. Almost bought some mavericks but these feel so smooth, hits long, and gives me so much forgiveness.
As someone who is looking to get a new set of irons this video is perfect especially because these days I have no idea what’s really good quality for players around my handicap
Spent over a year looking for irons. Finally chose Honma tr21x fitted with a stiff shaft. Quite literally the best irons I've hit. So impressed I moved to their Tr20 driver and tr21x fairway woods.
I'm a14 handicap and got a set of John Letters irons back in i think 2008. The shop in St Andrews let me take a 4 and a 7 down to range at the Old course and told me to hit 20 with each club and come back and report my findings. Told them that i was pushing them a little so they closed the face a little and sent me back out again. Started hitting them straight as a die and they've been in my bag ever since.
I've just returned to golf after a 16 year absence and was not a single digit player back then so knew I needed irons that would make my life as easy and enjoyable as possible. I tried pretty much everything the shop had to offer and it was a lot of clubs, in the end the Callaway Rogue ST stuck out for the consistency, distance and feel. 1/4 inch of the shaft length and hopefully being delivered to the shop on Thursday for range practice Friday and Saturday followed by 18 holes Sunday! Wish me luck....
I was fit into the Apex MB 21's and have to say even among the forged blades they feel and look over the ball better than any other option out there. I fell in love with them after the first swing, tbh.
@@mikeabel7577 I did. I spent about 6 weeks hitting irons before my fitting and among blades I hit most of them. Some examples, Titleist were underwhelming, Mizuno were very good (as usual) and the Ping blades were surprisingly nice, but the Callaway feel was, to me, better than any of them.
I put my pride aside and got a set of t200 and t350 set. 350 long irons... 200 short... and shot under par. I don't care what people think of my clubs. Under par... oh yeah!
I got fit as a 15 hdcp 2 years ago and got the Mizuno JPX hot metals. While I love them, my biggest gripe over time has been they are massive. Now I am down to a 10 and looking again and really looking to get back to a traditional small head size that I grew up with.
I had the same issue. I was a 5 handicap with some Taylormade M2 irons and couldn’t stand to even look at them anymore 😂. I went to Mizuno JPX tour. I couldn’t recommend them enough. They are far less punishing on bad strikes than I originally thought they would be. Could easily take your game up a notch with those
@@owenmiller390 nice will have to take a look at them and was also thinking of looking at the 225/223 pros too. Either way, I like to hear they are less punishing then you thought because thats why I stayed away from them as well. Was also thinking of looking at the Titleist line too.
I'm a 15 and would panic if i had to hit those Mizuno Pro's.... I still need a cavity back, could be just be a comfort thing.... I'm looking to change to the Apex 21's
I'm around that as well and play a combo set of the TaylorMade P770s/P790s. They've been great. Looked at both the Mizunos and Cobras during my fitting, but just hit the TMs best, so I went with those. The right shaft and lie angle helps too.
15-18 Hdcp here, learned on a beginner set of Rams for about a year. Shafts we’re waayyyyyy too soft. Bought a used set of original AP2s. Not a great choice for a beginner. But I struggled through and am still playing them today. Been hitting my friends new t-200s and I absolutely love them. Added about 15-20 yards compared to the AP2s.
I hit the apex mb irons nowhere. Now my 0317ST PXG irons... those irons are amazing. I never thought I would be a PXG guy, but here we are. Give them a try, and if you don't love them, I'll be amazed.
two questions... 1. what about lefties? Mizuno for example makes great clubs but tends to limit their selection for lefties. 2. where do you stand on club fittings? recommending 2nd hand clubs is a great way to update gear in a bag at a discount but the confidence knowing that the length, lie, shaft flex, shaft weight and grip size are fitted specifically to your swing is very confidence inspiring... Have a set of fitted clubs means that every time I miss a shot I know now I can't blame the gear.
I come from a very high handicap (42) and I am now 28 handicap after 2 years - all thanks to a lot of practice combined with Cleveland Halo's, lovely clubs for beginners
Great video! I’m a 20 handicapper looking to get some new irons. My buddy has a set of taylormade p770 forged 2017, are these a good set for me? They’re in great shape and we are talking half the price of retail or even used in the same condition. In terms of ball striking some days I don’t fell like a 20 handicap it’s just bad course management and lack luster short game.
In 2021 I bought the Sim2 Max OS irons. After a decade with older Yonex irons, the difference was something. I know that was more the delofting, but I also find them much more forgiving. I'm a low to mid 90s golfer. I was a mid to high 90s golfer before then. Was that the clubs? Who can say. But they are chunky, and honestly, I like them a lot.
No BS: I bought my first iron set when getting back into the game in 2019 from golfbidder (RSi1) and although I will eventually get fitted some day, I knew of golfbidder bc of your & Rick's challenge and I am still very happy with my purchase
I had the RSI1 from 2015 to when i replaced them with PXG 0211 this year. They were great irons and I only replaced them as all the face slots seemed to be breaking apart and they were losing pop. Was happy I purchased them and gamed them for so long.
I think the marketing is so good these days. I think there’s not that much help in those clubs those guys use but it’s marketed so well that there’s a placebo effect to it.
Great video, great editing (loved the crescendo on the background romantic music near the start). Great twist, and great content. With content like this golf magazines will need to convert to gardening or holiday packages.
💯 agree, after customer fitting recently the best irons I used during the fitting was the Apex MB 21. Easily the best feeling off the blade! Great post! 🙌🏼
As a 26 handicap I've used Mizunos before and I lived them. I regret getting rid of them. Right now I'm using Callaway X-Hot irons and they are definitely better than what I had after the Mizunos.
Been playing 3 years now and at 15 handicap and find the Srixon z785 irons are great! Looking at upgrading to the ZX7 MKII or some Mizuno irons next season though
I think the Z785 feels and especially looks better than the ZX7. I have tested the ZX7:s several times. Also hit some Mizuno 223:s, which are somewhat equivalent but didn't like them as much.
I thought the selections were pretty appropriate. I have the mizuno jpx-921 HM pros and I think they’re the perfect combo of distance, feel, and forgiveness as a 13ish hcp
I don’t keep a proper HCP but I play off around 12-14. Been using the TaylorMade RazorBladez Tour irons for almost a decade now. Love the Mizuno’s recommended here if I decide to switch - can get 4-PW for less than $1000USD off US version of GolfBidder
@@dchildress17 there’s 2nd Swing and Golf Avenue. I think Golf Avenue is the one directly affiliated with GolfBidder. Both sites are effectively the same thing though.
8 handicap playing Callaway Apex Pro 21s. The forged feel is like warm sand trickling through your fingers on the summer beach. Shaping a shot is as simple picturing it. The launch is higher than snoop dog, but your length will have you walking like youre 8 feet tall. The forgiveness is the chainmail that keeps a rogue swing from disemboweling your round. The feedback is so clear a bird just flew into it. 10/10 irons. Dont get me started on Titleist woods though 🔥
14HC golfer, recently got fitted and grabbed a set of taylor made M4 irons. Also grabbed the M4 driver. And im pretty consistant with striking but man noticed both with irons and the driver an off center strike still goes a decent distance and direction. I really need to shank one or fat it to create a bad shot.
Playing off 20 with Vapor Pros and s300 gold shafts. I learnt with blades as a kid and prefer the feel over cavity backs. So tempted by a set of Mizuno though.
@@ROB-12013 mine look different to the ones in the video though. I haven’t got that little black bit. Is that the same as your pros or is there a difference between the pro and pro combo? But yeah, they’ll be hard to beat if I do change.
@@2clearbuckets I have the Pros, not the pro combo with the black piece in the Video. Honestly ours are the more desirable ones. Best Nike design with perfect lofts and sold my AP2s which were almost as good but not as forgiving but had same S300 shafts. I have New level forged irons now too that are awesome!
In 2023 going into 2024 I still play Ping Zing/Zing 2, King Cobra Oversized Irons and with a few Adam's Hybrid Irons and I couldn't be happier. Obviously NOT the latest and greatest tech but it suits my style and how I play. What works for some doesn't always work for everybody. Use and play what YOU like and fits your game, swing speed and obviously playing ability.
I just bought a set of G430 irons. I'm hoping they will allow me to improve my ball striking. My old set were from 1998, so these are a significant step up in technology and performance.
I'm currently a +4 and play totleist t100s. Most consistent, still workable. Apex on any given club was the same or just higher than my p730s and spin rate was pretty much identical. Picked up and extra 15 yards which is just massive.
I am a 11 handi cap. Don’t get to play as much as I like but I love my ap-1 I got for Christmas . Lightly used and the whole set was for only 200$ tour grip mid size white grips on my titleist ap-1 . I feel good striking the ball and even on my miss hits I still get good contact
10 handicap: Just picked up a set of Cleveland Launcher XL irons (Not Halos) to compare to the Ping I500’s I’ve had for a while. Launchers have a longer blade length than the Pings but honestly are very solid and feel just as good.
6min and 34sec in the video I hit the subscribe button. I'm playing in two day's. I'll keep you guys posted if there was falls advertising or Peter spitting facts.... cheers 🍻
Got back into golf after a hiatus played the HB launchers but after getting back up to speed had to upgrade to the T-300. HB's became hook machines. I will still keep them in case the daughters get into the game. Great for beginners.
To a degree you’re right. But the best horse in the derby will still have a chance with the worst jockey but the worst horse with the best jockey will have no chance
I’m a 15 handicap and I was fitted with mizuno 223 but with true temper 7.0 shafts. I went with no preference but the trackman didn’t lie about the dispersion dialing in
The Vapour Pro Combos are the greatest set of irons ever made. I adore them even being a little above the 5-10 handicap range. They launch high and also provide brilliant forgiveness. I was surprised to see you giving them some love Pete!
I picked up a set of Vapor Pro Combos this spring and absolutely love them. I'm a 17 handicap, but I am playing these far better than I ever did my Aeroburner HLs despite coming off a torn rotator cuff. The look behind the ball and the feel on the shot is amazing for an "old" club.
Just invested in my 3rd set of Cleveland Launcher XL Halo the newest ones and Ive tried other sets but just coming back to Cleveland best game improvement irons on the market IMO
One caveat I'd throw out there if you are basing your choice on handicap, is understand WHY you are at your handicap.
When I was around an 18, it wasn't my ball striking that was the problem. I just never saw a 3 putt i didn't like.
Once I got with a decent putting coach, i dropped to a 6 handicap. I was using Titleist AP2 the entire time.
So just adjust your scale accordingly.
As a 54 handicap beginner, realizing the end of the scale is at 25 is quite a humbling experience 😂
54! thats amazing stick with it got to start somewhere LOL
Wanna be my partner in the next net tournament? 😂
New to golf here. When you say 54 handicap. What exactly does that mean ? That your scoring 54 over par ?
25+
It had a + next to it 😬
I’m a 15 handicap and was recently fit for Mizuno’s. I really wanted the 225 Pro’s as I love the look of those irons. However, the JPX923 Forged provided me with much more consistent performance and are now in my bag producing great results. Just another example of why a good fitting is so important.
But the problem with fitting, especially if you are new ish, as you get better those expensive fitted clubs Will get to the end of Their best for you this can also happen quite quickly to people.
@@MrSupermugen not untrue but that’s why places like Golfbidder exist. If you were fitted for a nice set of Mizuno JPX 923 a year ago, and have already improved to where something more bladey would progress your game, provided you have looked after your Mizunos, they would still fetch a decent amount on resale. Same deal with moving on from game improvement irons. In fact, you’d probably have even more chance of someone bidding on your game improvement irons since new golfers don’t want to spend a tonne of cash on clubs they are just trying to learn how to hit.
@StuMarston for me, the forged were more forgiving. Just more consistent, so I have the forged. Haven’t regretted a minute of it.
There is no forgiveness for striking the ball fat.
I am a high handicapper and I have the Cobra T-Rails. Yeah, they look a bit weird but they gave me back the confidence, I might actually enjoy golf and maybe get better. Awesome clubs for beginners and high handicappers.
These are what I use as well. They help a TON!
I played in a scramble with a guy who had these. We'd be 100 yards out and I kept thinking he was hitting a wood.
I couldn’t agree more I had them for a year till I got much more consistent in my swing then moved to ping g425
Played 3 years now cobra got me down to 17/18 and ping got me down to 11.4 current
Agreed I love mine
I just bought a set of T300s after using a set of hand me downs for 15 years...what a wild change to my game. They are absoloute rocket ships and the weight placement in the head of the club has helped enormously in my swing with much more consistent centre strikes because of the feel of everything. Couldnt be happier. (18ish handicap)
I'm a 8 handicap and I got custom fitted for my irons 3 years ago. The Titleist T-300 irons were the best all around, most consistent irons for me. Great clubs
I got those too!
@@outdooraf and me !! i was a 15 handicap now more like a 10 - love em
@@philiphemmings3199 My fitter had it narrowed down these but when he added an upcharge shaft it was going to cost $2000 for 6-GW.
I’m a 10 handicap and got fitted for Callaway Apex dcbs a couple of years ago too! LOVE them!
Yet they may be really good, I turn away from Titleist, Callaway and TaylorMade.
Now playing a purfect lovely set of Nicklaus-Miura Commerative LE set, which run from P to 3-iron, and is really something special! And customed to my specs. It is like sucking speck while you pure a 3-iron, but missing a wedge will loosen your fillings in the back teeth. Lovely sticks!
I’m a 15, and I bought the 225 Pro two months ago. Absolutely love them. The ball flight is pure and it’s crazy how much more spin they generate
I've just started playing again after a 20 year hiatus. Tried many different clubs from lots of brands. Ended up with a set of G430's. By far the most comfortable club for me out of all the ones I tested. For someone in my position its a great club
Nice video Pete! As a golf equipment geek here is my personal handicap scale list:
25+ - Cleveland Launcher Halo
18-25 - Taylormade Stealth
10-18 - Srixon ZX7
5-10 - Mizuno JPX 923 Tour
5 and under - Callaway Apex MB
Holy Crap! I went from about a 10 to 3 handicap with nike vapor pro combos. Bought them new (my first and only new set of irons in my life) the year Nike stopped making clubs. Still love them! Good Call Finch!
As an 18 handicap and owner of Titleist T-300 irons I was elated to see these clubs made the list. They are very forgiving irons that still allow me to shape shots when I need to, not to mention they look and feel great.
I also use the T300's I think they're a great club for any handicap unless your prefer a bladed club.
I'm a big fan of the hollow bodied irons. I've hit the 225 and it felt great. Currently play PXG Gen 3 0311P. That category of irons has added a lot of joy to my game.
My cousin who’s trying to be an semi pro golfer, had some Taylor made blades mb tour play just chilling in storage and he passed them too me cause he upgraded, learned how to play golf with blades. My friends and brother who is a golfer told me I was learning golf the hard way but after 5 months. Puring blades is so satisfying
Would be an interesting idea for you to play 18 holes with each and see what the scoring difference for you as a great player would be.
Would love to see people of various handicaps use each set honestly! THAT would be a GREAT series!
@@TripodianTT Have you ever heard a word called fun and another called enjoyment?
@@dmkfactor1721as someone who is personally floating around a 20 handicap but shaved ~5 off of it this year just from actually getting better, I’d 100% volunteer to borrow and play some blades for a round to look like a doofus and have fun and hopefully provide some entertainment to others 🤣
I've fluctuated between a 0-3 handicap over the last 10 years depending on how frequently I play and practice. Mizuno has consistently made irons that work well for me and I've played the Mizuno JPX 919 tour's for the last several years. From what I hear they are fairly similar to the Mizuno pro 223's. I like having a little extra forgiveness than a blade iron but also still keeping a fairly accurate club.
I’m a 4 handicap. Played the jpx 900 and got down to 4 from 20. The 223’s are letting me control the shoe so well. Whilst im not really ready for full blades yet.
Okay, I’ve always scratched my head about the obsession around the kislux book totes and their practicality, but this one is adorable!! Congratulations
Been playing for a little under a year, currently at a 24 hcp but got fitted for mizuno 223s my fitter said the only reason he gave me my clubs is because of my swing speed, can definitely tell they’re a harder club to hit but I love the feeling when I get a pure one!
I'm a 54 handicap beginner golfer and bought a cheap used set of clubs which turned out to be forged blades. Not the best beginner set, but I reckon they will teach me to hit the center fairly quickly
Tiger actually recommends starting with blades if you want to learn and improve quickly so stick at it!
Got back into golf after more than 15 years since I picked up a club. Thanks to yours and Rick Shiels golfbidder videos, I was able to build my bag using old clubs. Used but fitted to more of my amateur level to ease me back into it.
I got fitted to the T300s a few years ago, and I LOVE them. I shot a 96 over the weekend. I can only imagine how much higher it would have been if I had the T100s
Me too, been playing them for a year and love them. Lowered my handicap from 35 to 24, still nothing impressive, but I'll be playing these for the foreseeable future.
My coach that I go to now, a former Korn Ferry tour player, told me clubs that are made for pro should only be played by pros! He said play clubs you like, and always stick to clubs that offer more forgiveness! If you’re not playing and practicing daily with a plus handicap you really shouldn’t be playing tour level equipment. His opinion!
I took a 14 year break and when I came back to golf I chose the cobra sz irons they were easy to hit high and long. I’m currently down to a 8 HC. And dropping. I love golf.
I also have the Cobra sz iron and was thinking about changing to Srixon Zx4 or Zx5. Do you find the SZ to be too Game Improvey especially since you're a low handicap?
@@jonathontorres948 not at all I still enjoy gaming them and I’m currently down to a six hc I’m even playing a graphite shaft and supposedly that doesn’t help with dispersion. Are they sexy no. But really effortless to strike well. Hope that helps.
@fishdaddyforreel Thats funny because the main reason why im holding onto them is because I think they're very sexy. Lol
I am a 10 Hdcp and play the PING 425 irons. I generally shoot high 70s to low 80s. Struggle with consistency, mostly by trying to swing too hard and not looking at the ball when striking it
I just bought a set of G430s. I have the same peek a boo and swing speed issues. Lol
I tend to jersey the club down at the top of my backswing, which I'm working on smoothing out.
Same I'm an 8 and play those same irons they're awesome
I started playing a year or so ago after a 30 year break... I got hold of some used 1980s Spalding clubs and couldn't get much distance out of them (back issues, getting old etc). I went along to a Srixon fitting day and the guy pointed me to Cleveland Launcher XLs with stiff graphite shafts to raise my ball speed and, oh my God, it was like hitting butter. I managed to get the distance I should have been for my very high handicap and I'm loving playing even more, and I can keep up the pace with my mates because I'm now not topping, slicing or hooking every shot into trees and bushes. Now to get some lessons!
I'm an average handicapper that hovers around 11 - 12 . I currently have the P-790 5i to AW the love the feel when middled, also love the feedback on off centred hits.. they keep you honest.
Wouldn’t you just wanna get cobra t-rails and hit them farther and straighter? I must be missing something
As a 22 handicap, I got a set of Cobra LTDX irons, regular steel KBS shafts. I just love these irons that offer me confidence, distance and good dispersion. So happy with them.
Those ltdx irons are a huge part of what took me from a 25 down to a 15. Now im a p770 guy
13 hdcp. I use the Cleveland Launcher UHX in combo with the Launcher Halo Hybrids. I love the clubs, especially the hybrids. So much easier to hit than lower irons.
10 handicap, was playing Wilson Staff D7 forged, they got me from 28 down to 10. Just traded them in and got the Cobra King Tour irons! They’re lovely to look at and feel amazing ✌️
Just got the Wilson D9 forged after scoring under 100 pretty consistently and have already shaved 2-4 shots off my score over 3 rounds with them. Absolutely love the feel coming from hitting Dunlop Surpass Irons 😳 for the first couple years of my golf journey
I'm 19.5 currently and I play i230s with the project-x R flex steel shafts. I absolutely love these irons! They Launch and are very forgiving. They look more like a players iron, but have a cavity for plenty of forgiveness.
I hover around an 11, and after trying everything at Club Champion I ended up with the T300s in a stiff shaft. My launch angle, descent angle, carry distance, total distance, and dispersion all improved.
At first I was pretty pissed I was stuck playing a "training wheels" iron, but I simply play them better. They don't feel great (like hitting a ball with a marshmallow), but they go straighter and longer, more often.
Just bought a brand new set of Rouge st max irons from callaway and those are the beat irons I've hit. Spent most of last year trying out tons of pings and few callaways and Taylor made. Almost bought some mavericks but these feel so smooth, hits long, and gives me so much forgiveness.
As someone who is looking to get a new set of irons this video is perfect especially because these days I have no idea what’s really good quality for players around my handicap
just got the Mizuno 225's last year. i love them they are great clubs. You get the looks and the help in one club. great list.
Spent over a year looking for irons. Finally chose Honma tr21x fitted with a stiff shaft. Quite literally the best irons I've hit. So impressed I moved to their Tr20 driver and tr21x fairway woods.
I'm a14 handicap and got a set of John Letters irons back in i think 2008. The shop in St Andrews let me take a 4 and a 7 down to range at the Old course and told me to hit 20 with each club and come back and report my findings. Told them that i was pushing them a little so they closed the face a little and sent me back out again. Started hitting them straight as a die and they've been in my bag ever since.
I'm a 6.5 and I play the mizuno pro 225. Love the look and forgiveness.
I've just returned to golf after a 16 year absence and was not a single digit player back then so knew I needed irons that would make my life as easy and enjoyable as possible. I tried pretty much everything the shop had to offer and it was a lot of clubs, in the end the Callaway Rogue ST stuck out for the consistency, distance and feel. 1/4 inch of the shaft length and hopefully being delivered to the shop on Thursday for range practice Friday and Saturday followed by 18 holes Sunday! Wish me luck....
Wilson launchpad 2 irons are perfect for beginners, and alot cheaper than big brands, i love them
I was fit into the Apex MB 21's and have to say even among the forged blades they feel and look over the ball better than any other option out there. I fell in love with them after the first swing, tbh.
Did you hit other blades before you settled on the Apex MBs?
@@mikeabel7577 I did. I spent about 6 weeks hitting irons before my fitting and among blades I hit most of them. Some examples, Titleist were underwhelming, Mizuno were very good (as usual) and the Ping blades were surprisingly nice, but the Callaway feel was, to me, better than any of them.
32 years playing, mostly with a set of TA3 845's, and recently switched to the Takomo 201's which is another player iron. Love them!
Got fitted last year for the callaway apex. At that time i was handicap 12. Now at handicap 9. Love the clubs.
I put my pride aside and got a set of t200 and t350 set. 350 long irons... 200 short... and shot under par. I don't care what people think of my clubs. Under par... oh yeah!
I got fit as a 15 hdcp 2 years ago and got the Mizuno JPX hot metals. While I love them, my biggest gripe over time has been they are massive. Now I am down to a 10 and looking again and really looking to get back to a traditional small head size that I grew up with.
I had the same issue. I was a 5 handicap with some Taylormade M2 irons and couldn’t stand to even look at them anymore 😂. I went to Mizuno JPX tour. I couldn’t recommend them enough. They are far less punishing on bad strikes than I originally thought they would be. Could easily take your game up a notch with those
@@owenmiller390 nice will have to take a look at them and was also thinking of looking at the 225/223 pros too. Either way, I like to hear they are less punishing then you thought because thats why I stayed away from them as well. Was also thinking of looking at the Titleist line too.
I was using a set of R7 taylomades till earlier this year, I got myself a zx5/zx7 combo set and love them
I said yesterday i needed new irons and you posted this today..........you're fast Pete.
I have the Mizuno MP20 HMB irons and love them. Feel and forgiveness in a great looking design. Not even tempted to look at the Pro 225’s
I'm a 15 and would panic if i had to hit those Mizuno Pro's.... I still need a cavity back, could be just be a comfort thing.... I'm looking to change to the Apex 21's
As a 15-17 (depending on time of year), the Cobra Forged Tec irons have been amazingly perfect. Remind me a lot of those MIzuno 225s
I'm around that as well and play a combo set of the TaylorMade P770s/P790s. They've been great. Looked at both the Mizunos and Cobras during my fitting, but just hit the TMs best, so I went with those. The right shaft and lie angle helps too.
@@jacktremper8090 bad mistake...TM buys their cheap metal from china and forge it wrong
@@giomusah2155 They've worked great for me and very happy with them.
15-18 Hdcp here, learned on a beginner set of Rams for about a year. Shafts we’re waayyyyyy too soft. Bought a used set of original AP2s. Not a great choice for a beginner. But I struggled through and am still playing them today. Been hitting my friends new t-200s and I absolutely love them. Added about 15-20 yards compared to the AP2s.
I’m a 10 hdcp and have been playing Mizuno JPX 850 forged for years and I love them.
I hit the apex mb irons nowhere. Now my 0317ST PXG irons... those irons are amazing. I never thought I would be a PXG guy, but here we are.
Give them a try, and if you don't love them, I'll be amazed.
225 owner, this man is spot on. Moved from mavriks, to mavrik pros, and then finally to fitted 225s.
They will be used till the faces are shot.
two questions...
1. what about lefties? Mizuno for example makes great clubs but tends to limit their selection for lefties.
2. where do you stand on club fittings? recommending 2nd hand clubs is a great way to update gear in a bag at a discount but the confidence knowing that the length, lie, shaft flex, shaft weight and grip size are fitted specifically to your swing is very confidence inspiring... Have a set of fitted clubs means that every time I miss a shot I know now I can't blame the gear.
I come from a very high handicap (42) and I am now 28 handicap after 2 years - all thanks to a lot of practice combined with Cleveland Halo's, lovely clubs for beginners
Great video! I’m a 20 handicapper looking to get some new irons. My buddy has a set of taylormade p770 forged 2017, are these a good set for me? They’re in great shape and we are talking half the price of retail or even used in the same condition. In terms of ball striking some days I don’t fell like a 20 handicap it’s just bad course management and lack luster short game.
In 2021 I bought the Sim2 Max OS irons. After a decade with older Yonex irons, the difference was something. I know that was more the delofting, but I also find them much more forgiving. I'm a low to mid 90s golfer. I was a mid to high 90s golfer before then. Was that the clubs? Who can say. But they are chunky, and honestly, I like them a lot.
My friend finally is getting serious into golf this year. All new clubs, to him anyway. He just picked up a set of T300 and really likes them 🤙
18-25 here, Callaway Razr X have been the best thing to learn on period. No desire to change irons at all for the foreseeable future.
No BS: I bought my first iron set when getting back into the game in 2019 from golfbidder (RSi1) and although I will eventually get fitted some day, I knew of golfbidder bc of your & Rick's challenge and I am still very happy with my purchase
I had the RSI1 from 2015 to when i replaced them with PXG 0211 this year. They were great irons and I only replaced them as all the face slots seemed to be breaking apart and they were losing pop. Was happy I purchased them and gamed them for so long.
Look how many tour players don’t use blades. If Rahm and Brooks take a little help, I will too!
I think the marketing is so good these days. I think there’s not that much help in those clubs those guys use but it’s marketed so well that there’s a placebo effect to it.
Great video, great editing (loved the crescendo on the background romantic music near the start). Great twist, and great content. With content like this golf magazines will need to convert to gardening or holiday packages.
💯 agree, after customer fitting recently the best irons I used during the fitting was the Apex MB 21. Easily the best feeling off the blade! Great post! 🙌🏼
As a 26 handicap I've used Mizunos before and I lived them. I regret getting rid of them. Right now I'm using Callaway X-Hot irons and they are definitely better than what I had after the Mizunos.
Been playing 3 years now and at 15 handicap and find the Srixon z785 irons are great! Looking at upgrading to the ZX7 MKII or some Mizuno irons next season though
I think the Z785 feels and especially looks better than the ZX7. I have tested the ZX7:s several times. Also hit some Mizuno 223:s, which are somewhat equivalent but didn't like them as much.
I thought the selections were pretty appropriate. I have the mizuno jpx-921 HM pros and I think they’re the perfect combo of distance, feel, and forgiveness as a 13ish hcp
so true!! play off 17, w jpx919 hmp. love them!
Just got back into golf got my self some zx4s as I was really struggling with my old blades I use to use yes there power sticks but I really like them
I don’t keep a proper HCP but I play off around 12-14. Been using the TaylorMade RazorBladez Tour irons for almost a decade now. Love the Mizuno’s recommended here if I decide to switch - can get 4-PW for less than $1000USD off US version of GolfBidder
What’s the US version?
@@dchildress17 there’s 2nd Swing and Golf Avenue. I think Golf Avenue is the one directly affiliated with GolfBidder. Both sites are effectively the same thing though.
Making the decision to buy the Nike Vapor pro combo irons due to this video.
8 handicap playing Callaway Apex Pro 21s. The forged feel is like warm sand trickling through your fingers on the summer beach. Shaping a shot is as simple picturing it. The launch is higher than snoop dog, but your length will have you walking like youre 8 feet tall. The forgiveness is the chainmail that keeps a rogue swing from disemboweling your round. The feedback is so clear a bird just flew into it. 10/10 irons. Dont get me started on Titleist woods though 🔥
This comment is so fucking funny xD
Was using srixon z765 for 5 years - now have set of zx5s
Srixon are the best most underrated manufacturer about - butter and pillows all day!!!
14HC golfer, recently got fitted and grabbed a set of taylor made M4 irons. Also grabbed the M4 driver. And im pretty consistant with striking but man noticed both with irons and the driver an off center strike still goes a decent distance and direction. I really need to shank one or fat it to create a bad shot.
Playing off 20 with Vapor Pros and s300 gold shafts. I learnt with blades as a kid and prefer the feel over cavity backs. So tempted by a set of Mizuno though.
I have the Nike Vapor Pros and they do have a cavity albeit a small one. That's why they are so forgiving for blades. Love the forged feel too.
@@ROB-12013 mine look different to the ones in the video though. I haven’t got that little black bit. Is that the same as your pros or is there a difference between the pro and pro combo? But yeah, they’ll be hard to beat if I do change.
@@2clearbuckets I have the Pros, not the pro combo with the black piece in the Video. Honestly ours are the more desirable ones. Best Nike design with perfect lofts and sold my AP2s which were almost as good but not as forgiving but had same S300 shafts. I have New level forged irons now too that are awesome!
In 2023 going into 2024 I still play Ping Zing/Zing 2, King Cobra Oversized Irons and with a few Adam's Hybrid Irons and I couldn't be happier. Obviously NOT the latest and greatest tech but it suits my style and how I play. What works for some doesn't always work for everybody. Use and play what YOU like and fits your game, swing speed and obviously playing ability.
Love that you have the pro combos in here.... I have MP69s and MP4s but I still play my pro combos to have a little bit of forgiveness.
Honestly I’m a +1 and I just switched to the rogue ST Pro irons and they are insane!!! I highly recommend!
I just bought a set of G430 irons. I'm hoping they will allow me to improve my ball striking.
My old set were from 1998, so these are a significant step up in technology and performance.
Playing off 6 right now and absolutely love my Ping iBlades.
Don't understand people not playing combo/split sets, think when you look at most brands now blending makes so much sense
I'm currently a +4 and play totleist t100s. Most consistent, still workable. Apex on any given club was the same or just higher than my p730s and spin rate was pretty much identical. Picked up and extra 15 yards which is just massive.
I am a 11 handi cap. Don’t get to play as much as I like but I love my ap-1 I got for Christmas . Lightly used and the whole set was for only 200$ tour grip mid size white grips on my titleist ap-1 . I feel good striking the ball and even on my miss hits I still get good contact
10 handicap: Just picked up a set of Cleveland Launcher XL irons (Not Halos) to compare to the Ping I500’s I’ve had for a while. Launchers have a longer blade length than the Pings but honestly are very solid and feel just as good.
Knob of butter, with a pillow!!! Wow. Peter Alliss couldnt have said it better! Lovely.
Alliss would never have said the word "knob"...
I'm a 16 handicap I have the t300 and absolutely love them love your chanel though pete
6min and 34sec in the video I hit the subscribe button. I'm playing in two day's. I'll keep you guys posted if there was falls advertising or Peter spitting facts.... cheers 🍻
Update- facts!!!
Great video. I’m a 78 handicap, this is very helpful.
12 handicap here... Titleist T-MB's are amazing. I was using the Srixon ZX-7's for 2 years prior to finding a set of T-MB's.
Got back into golf after a hiatus played the HB launchers but after getting back up to speed had to upgrade to the T-300. HB's became hook machines. I will still keep them in case the daughters get into the game. Great for beginners.
as long as people realize one FACT : it's the Indian, not the arrow.
Sure, however you have to realize some arrows are made better than others.
Oh I get it now. It’s the club that matters not the ball
To a degree you’re right. But the best horse in the derby will still have a chance with the worst jockey but the worst horse with the best jockey will have no chance
This statement IMO isn’t 100% accurate. The ball is arrow and the club is the bow. Need a bow to shoot an arrow.
To that - I do disagree
Lmao cap , my cousin is carried by his over sized box set dunlops because he can’t hit my thin Nike MB’s at all and I can absolutely launch his clubs
I have Nike pro combos and they are amazing, but not currently striking well so I’m getting some help with that from my cobra Aerojet’s
18 handicap and I play the rogue st pros. love em. they look good and let me get away with some bad strikes sometimes.
3 handicap and I play the 225. Absolutely love them
I’m a 15 handicap and I was fitted with mizuno 223 but with true temper 7.0 shafts. I went with no preference but the trackman didn’t lie about the dispersion dialing in
I’m now a subscriber, can’t wait to hit my best score in the 50mph wind and rain we have today
The Vapour Pro Combos are the greatest set of irons ever made. I adore them even being a little above the 5-10 handicap range. They launch high and also provide brilliant forgiveness. I was surprised to see you giving them some love Pete!
Never heard of then b4
I picked up a set of Vapor Pro Combos this spring and absolutely love them. I'm a 17 handicap, but I am playing these far better than I ever did my Aeroburner HLs despite coming off a torn rotator cuff. The look behind the ball and the feel on the shot is amazing for an "old" club.
Nailed it Pete. I’m off 12 and playing 225s 👌🏼
Just got fitted for the cobra forged tech irons blew everything else out the water for me unbelievable irons
I’ve got those Nike Vapor pro combos in my bag and can’t see myself changing anytime soon. They’re so good 💪🏻
Love the Nike vapor pro combo feature! I’ve been gaming them since they came out and I’m now an 11. Seriously underrated clubs
I’m about a 12/13 handicap and it’s funny you said Mizuno for that group, because I just got my Mizuno JPX923 Forged Irons a few weeks ago.
Just invested in my 3rd set of Cleveland Launcher XL Halo the newest ones and Ive tried other sets but just coming back to Cleveland best game improvement irons on the market IMO
I love my Nike vapor pros! One thing I think that helps me, I practice at home with an OLD bladed 3 iron lol helps my ball striking a ton