"Flowers of War" The chinese soldiers has german equipment because they were part of the German trained divisions were the elite-quality, best trained and equipped infantry divisions in the Republic of China's National Revolutionary Army trained under Sino-German cooperation from 1926 to 1941
If people din't know, that's the infamous 88th Infantry Division of the NRA (National Revolutionary Army) and was one of the most well-trained unit of the entire NRA forces that was trained by the Germans. Before the Japanese invasion, China and Russia was in good terms and were often given arms and such. However when Chiang thought it was a good idea to rid the CCP once and for all, he riled up the Soviets and soon they pulled out in supporting and sending arms towards China. That left the KMT in a pickle and somehow along the way, Nazi Germany was just rising and need cash to revitalize their economy and what better way was to sell arms to one of their biggest exporter since the time of the Kaiser and that's China. When the Nazis realized that Chiang has the same common goal of ridding the Communist as much as they do, not only did they sell them weapons enmasse, they also picked up the idea to help in training the NRA soldiers and along the way, 22 infantry divisions were sent to Germany in and all came back very well-trained in the German standard. When Japan invaded, Japan wasn't in the triparte act thus Germany continued supporting China along the way by sending helmets, guns, ammo and even had their military advisor to Chiang, Falkenhausen stay in China and continue assisting Chiang with this "New Army". Chiang was told to use them sparingly and only send them out as a breakthrough force by Falkenhausen but with the situation being desperate as the Japanese were overruning all Chinese positions from Shanghai (Chiang had already lost 2 German trained divisions in Shanghai with one even involved in the infamous Sihang Warehouse battle) to the outskirts of Nanking, Chiang still believed these forces were to be tossed in and fight hard to defend the city. Turns out, Chiang was wrong and that's how the lore of these German trained Chinese soldiers that have the ethos of "Not one inch closer for the Japanese" came about and how enraging it was for Chiang's military commanders to watch their best troops die in the slaughter when they could have kept them back and wait for a chance for them to strike a weary Japanese army.
Also Hitler made the worst move ever. China was in the same pact under "Anti-Comintern pact". The one who actually betrayed the whole pact was Japan. Germany abandoned China for Japan is when US got full green light to invade Germany. He made the biggest mistake in history was trading China for Japan and declaring war on US after Japan in attack Pearl Harbour. Japan was already on its own by the time the war started. No one trusted the Japs more than Germany. When Germans went for Japs. Everyone knew who should be destroyed first. He first planned for US to join Germany, then he went against it. Basically who ever goes against China is usually an enemy to the world by that time.
@@makemap Japan was a fully industrialized powerhouse with a capable navy. The sole Great Power in Asia. And you're saying the Germans should've sided with China, when what they needed was an ally with a powerful, modernized Navy? China was a liability. They would've been powerful had they had enough time to westernize, unite and become industrialized, but that wasn't the case during WW2. Sorry but you're an idiot for criticizing Hitler's one optimal choice. It was wrong in hindsight considering the blunders Japan made themselves, but that was the best decision he could've made at the time. And you're also wrong thinking we cared about China. No one gave a rat's ass (save for the tea-loving brits) about that backwards "nation" of savages. All they had to show for their large size were their large manpower and trading ports. Or did you miss the part where the League of Nations did nothing aside from morally condemning Japan's actions? The only reason the US embargoed Japan was because its ambitions in the south were disrupting the economy and trade. The KMT even went as far as to try and garner sympathy from the West with their Sihang warehouse clown show. And we all know how that went, lol. No one from the West respected China. It was ironically just Hitler who appreciated those rice farmers because China was historically powerful, but even he realized how futile it is to side with savages as opposed to an Imperial power who even though has an army with feudal mentality and equally feudal discipline, has modern weapons and can kick Chinese rice farmer butt 10 to 1. The Japanese Imperial army, at least, despite being known for their sick perversion and cruelty were devoted to their own people and event went as far as to commit mass suicides just to keep the Allies away from their mainland. On the other hand you have the Chinese who at the same time period flooded and drowned thousands of their own people just to win the war. Really, it's not surprising since these are the same types of people who take pride in their history of having "great" leaders who encouraged his men to cannibalize their wives and children, all to win a war. Such loyalty and heroism! Truly the way of a Chinese hero! LOL! I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out the reason the Chinese fought so hard against the Japanese weren't because of empathy and sorrow, but because of intense racism - that their pride got crushed when the people they, for the longest time, considered to be inferior dwarves invaded them and they couldn't fight back. As their famous Sun Tzu said, If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the dwarves so off to the meat grinder you go, my gullible Ling monkeys.
@@Kevin-kn6uq That's... Not really the case. Chiang's purge of the Communist isn't because he found the Soviets useless and din't need them because "China was strong enough" but because the CCP was sowing discord amongst the alliance. Before the actual 1927 purge, the CCP had already caused chaos for the KMT and the Zhili clique warlords who controlled Shanghai at that point back in 1925 during the May Fourth Incident. Chiang had personally saw how much chaos these Communist could do and with him just gaining power in late 1926, he can't have these people right in his backyard trying to create chaos and potentially wrest power from him. It also din't help that he found out that Wang Jingwei, the actual defacto leader at that time of the KMT had worked behind Chiang's back and tallied up with the right-wing members to oust and coup Chiang which ironically Chiang found out about. Then what gave Chiang the ultimatum to get rid of the thorn (the CCP) once and for all was how the CCP took Shanghai down themselves. When the Communist wing of the alliance heard about the National Revolutionary Army (NRA) marching towards Shanghai in an attempt to oust the Zhili Clique once and for all, they started an armed uprising led by Zhou Enlai and Chen Duxiu and they indeed kicked the warlord army's ass and claimed Shanghai. When the NRA forces led by Li Zongren and Bai Chongxi reached Shanghai, they were actually shocked that the CCP had grown soo large and had beaten off a warlord army themselves. With the CCP now basically having a militia army and the fresh memory of what happened in 1925, the KMT were scared that these right-wingers would create discord again by going on massive riots and protest which, they were right. Soon as the NRA had settled Shanghai, the CCP went straight to work and harassed the European powers in the International Settlement to release the entire area back to Chinese jurisdiction. This actually shook the entire left-wing and caused paranoia to Chiang and many of his associates that if this continues, not only would the "face" of China be tossed into the bin with a burning fire right in it but also with the CCP armed now, they could challenge Chiang's authority with them being so great now and thus declared the CCP ousted from the Nanjing KMT. Thus, Chiang started passing secret edicts along the Nanjing KMT-held territories and even employed Triads like the Green Gang in Shanghai led by Du Yuesheng to capture, torture and publicly execute these "Commies" for all to see as the CCP were "anti-revolutionary in the ideals of late-Sun Yat-sen". Soon, the purge happened everywhere from Zhuhai to Nanking and Changsha and beyond. In an ironic twist of fate, Wang Jingwei was still at loggerheads with Chiang and still maintained a standpoint that these Communists were actually helpful and they could work together for a better China and maintained good ties with the Soviets in Wuhan with his own government called the "Wuhan KMT" but when he received news that Stalin had personally wrote to the leaders of the CCP even in Wang Jingwei's regime to raise up as a peasant army and kill Chiang. This shocked Wang who promptly negotiated with Chiang while watching his government collapsed and then fleeing to Germany.
@@JsJdv If Germany gave China more technology, Japan would not even stay in China. The Japanese army was crap, some Japanese were converting to Chinese side anyways. The Chinese puppets were giving up and de-linking from Japanese control. Japan would have been the first to go in the war and capitulate. They couldn't hold China let alone stay in China. Even with the Navy, the Navy is useless because they cannot fight on land & an air war. The Zero was overrated. The BF109 fair much better against Zero as it can fight against P51 Mustangs and Spitfires no problem with Aces under the wings. Japan would have ran out of manpower and aircraft fighting against full German-Chinese alliance. Japan had to get better weapons trading with Germans for example Tiger tank techs. Soviet Union could have just sat out for a while anyways as Germany is the main power house of all factions in WW2 technologically. They were the first to get Jet aircraft's, first to build continental rockets, first to get Heavy penetrating tanks that can knock out even cold war era tanks. With Chinese manpower and resources German would have produce as much equipment as Soviet Union and gave them a massive edge. Just like today's German cars. Japan was not fully industrialized, it ran out of fuel. They did not know how to mine fuel. They were trading with Americans to get more fuels and conquering lands that produce fuel for their aircrafts. Why else they went Kamikaze mode. Hitler made the biggest mistake of his life, not helping China out ,esp when they were already fighting Communist since Spanish civil war.
@@Kevin-kn6uq What Germany did not under stand was China was divided into multiple warlords during that time. None of the Warlords trusted each other, but Chiang had the most privileged due to Sun Yat sun. They should have stuck with it as Chiang had the most man power out of all the warlords. China invading Soviet would have massively helped unlike Japanese failed Mongolian front.
These are Kuomintang soldiers trained by germans, hence why they have german equipment. The german trained Republican soldiers were the best china had to offer, i believe.
Donald lisberg after 1937 Kuomintang start to find out german panzer I and II are rubbish so they ask Soviets for help and Soviets gaved them lots of soviet equipment and tank like t26 bt7 for free this also make Chinese army strong（by the way the Chinese air forse in 1930s are made in Soviet）
The stahlhelms and grey uniforms got me for a second too, and it looked like one of them was European for a second. They were one of the elite divisions, trained and (somewhat) equiped by the Germans
@@alexmag342 Wrong All three were in the Anti-comintern pact. Japan made excuses to conquer China and failed. Germany fell for the lies which got itself killed in the process.
Captain Pea germans in 1920上～1930s selled lots of stuff until Japanese totally invation of China make nazi stop to make trade then is Soviets and US helped China in 1930～1945
@@AnImperialGod But Germany was still training troops until 1937 the outbreak of the invasion. And I've read there was a German commander present in the Battle of Shanghai for some time, as it was a weird sight for the Chinese in battle. Also von Faulkonsen gave logistics to Chiang Kai Skek on how to stop temporarily repel the Japanese invasion.
this is chinese name 金陵十三钗 english name The Flowers Of War he story of the film is set in the Nanjing Massacre during the Anti-Japanese War. It tells a moving story of Nanjing, China, occupied by Japanese forces in 1937, between people who do not know each other in a church. An American pretending to be a priest for saving people, a group of female students hiding in church, 14 women fleeing the war, soldiers and wounded soldiers who resisted death, put aside their lives and deaths at a time of crisis and went to a solemn covenant of death
Excellent film. Well done on every level. This is not an action, shoot-out type of movie, but, rather the battle scenes lend support to the drama of trying to save as many young female students as possible from Japanese atrocities. Much in the vein of Schindler's List. Chinese film making has come fully into it's own.
The soliders have german gear because they are part of the nationalist chinese forces that were trained and supplied by Nazi Germany prior to Hitler eventually cutting of support for China at the request of the Japanese. These were the most elite and formidable troops of the Chinese nationalist forces and were more skilled and disciplined than their Japanese counterparts, winning many victories over them. However, in an effort to gain more substantial foriegn support against Japan's assault, Chiang threw them into the fray in the defense of Nanking, hoping they would put up a heroic defense that would move foreign countries to help. They did put up such a defense, often staying even when all other Chinese units had disintegrated and fled, holding to the last man or acting as guerrillas after being overrun. As the Chinese Nationalists were unable to relieve or replenish these units and no substantial foreign support arrived, they were decimated at Nanking and either wiped out or were only a shadow of their former self afterwards. The skill & determination of them presented in Flowers of War might seem overblown, but I can assure you that if anything the movie downplays this. Compared to standard Chinese & Japanese soldiers, the German-trained Chinese were supersoldiers that outwitted, outplayed, and frustrated the Japanese army to no end. Part of the reason Japanese soldiers were so brutal in their treatment of the people of Nanking was in retaliation for the shame of defeats inflicted on them by these soldiers.
Yeah but it wasn’t Nanking, it was Shanghai, they held off the Japanese for three months there but Nanking fell in a couple weeks I believe because all the German trained divisions were shredded but everything else is right, thanks for knowing history
Unlike shitty movies where the "good" guys shoot full auto into the open and the bad guys die like flies, makes the movie seem like a joke, i like movies where battles are realistic where death is rare and most fire is tactical and supression just like real life
Russian bias war films 😅🤣 In reality 2 Russians killed to 1 German all I remember is Germany lost close to 3 million men just on the eastern front alone So 6 million I'm guessing for Russia Yet in all there movies its like "da comrade this is anti bullet vodka and our shkas never run out of ammo"
Just one MG34 and and a pak 38 could of done the job. Even the PAK 36 could of done the job. Nah probably even a 50 cal browning could of penetrated the armor of that tank
The MG-34 was a bad weapon compared to the MG-42, shorter range, longer reload, harder to control, shorter mag, cooling it down was a bitch comparing to the 42', it was also more expensive to produce, and the panzerfaust was produced until 1945 being introduced in 1942, so these troops couldn't even use it lol... The STG also introduced in 1943. If your talking about the earlier variants then yeah they probably could have them.
I am surprised that in a war zone that is being fought at an infantry on infantry level in an urban landscape, the electricity wouldn't had already been knocked out by artillery and air attack.
This was the early stages of the war, the Nationalists switched from German stuff to US weapons n equipment towards the end of the war. Still put up heavy Resistance and fought hard til Japan was defeated. Then they fought hard during the civil war (1946-1949) until they was driven to Taiwan.
0:30 you can feel his hatred for the Japanese what they did during WW2 was Terrible this is justice for all of them Chinese women and children who were murdered.
For what they were yet to do, atrocities that would be committed in a war nearly a decade later? It's like saying a guy in a Civil War battle clip is getting revenge for Little BigHorn - simply hadn't happened yet.
At this point in the war, the Communist were not a big enough threat to withstand against the Nationalists. I believe this battle wiped out pretty much all the professional soldiers the Nationalist had against Japan that they were forced to join forces with the Communists. Am I missing something?
All of the KMT's best and most well trained units were destroyed in Shanghai and Nanking due to poor decisions by Chiang Kai Shek true but they still had a large military. They weren't really forced to join forces with the Communists due to lacking manpower so much as fighting both a civil war and a war against an overwhelming invading force was untenable. That said, by the time the meat grinder that was the second Sino-Japanese war ended, the KMT forces were decimated and the Communist forces had grown stronger.
From "The Flowers of War" based on the Rape of Nanking in December 1937, one of my favorite all-time movies starring Christian Bale. It was the most expensive movie ever made by the Chinese.
They always depict the Japanese as cumbersome soldiers but when you read history, they were really deadly. I’m not saying I’m a sympathizer, it’s just they fought well especially against Chinese solders, they really didn’t take mass casualties, fighting Chinese mainly because Chinese were technically in a civil war. So they Chinese didn’t put up a united fight. Ironically it was the nationalist, not communist who fought well against Japanese.
It actually goes deeper than that. The tactics and strategies of the Chinese National Forces (Kuomingtang) were so pathetic, they normally needed well over a million troops to defeat a force one-tenth their size. Only the Chinese Communist Red Army fared better due to better tactics. There should be no reason why a nation the size of China lost so much to an enemy like the Japanese one-fiftieth their size. It fault starts at the top with that idiot Chiang Hai-Shek and filters down. Yes, there were exceptions, but those were few and far in between. I studied Chinese war history from the 1820's Opium Wars to the end of the Chinese Civil War in 1952. Complete incompetence on the KMT. Only the Italians in WWII were worse and that is debatable!
No I’m pretty sure communist did a crappy job at defending the Chinese. There was a couple of communist victory in battles. But mainly fighting the Japanese the nationalist won majority of the battles. But at the behest of the American government nationalist let communist take power over China. Well partially. The other reason was unknown to why chaing Kai shek didn’t put up a fight again is t the communist after WW2.
I not a war historian, except classical warfare. Only the Chinese civil war interests me, When it comes to modern warfare that is. But for the most part the Chinese civil war is shrouded in mystery, thanks to the Chinese government. The only resource I managed to find on the war was a Mao biography. Anything put out by the Chinese government is really useless lies and Half truths. Other material I managed to find came form sociology books that gives a brief non detail accounts of the war. It interests me because it really was new world vs old world technology. Some of the warlords didn’t even have automatic weapons, only muzzle loading flintlocks. And let’s not forget all the back stabbing the communist were dong to their allies while the allies were fighting the real enemy, the Japanese.
"Backstabbing" isn't quite accurate either Neither side really trusted each other but didn't really hamper each other. They just refused to cooperate. Despite their "United Front" the only real battle that was a "victory" for the combined forces fighting side by side was the Battle of Wuhan which basically resulted in the United Front forcing a Pyrrhic victory on the Japanese, killing many Japanese but still losing Wuhan The only real "backstabbing" by the communists during the war was Mao's followers spreading propaganda so by the time the Japanese were defeated, Mao's new Red Army was far superior to the KMT and they had control over production. Plus the pieces were already in place, the communists could eventually grind down the KMT. The KMT wasn't clean either, some of their troops would kill communists they found spreading the propaganda during the war against Japan which, in turn, gave the communists MORE propaganda material There's no definite records on the war due to censorship and destruction, but ultimately: The biggest issue was lack of modernization and unity. While Chiang was officially in charge of the KMT, he wasn't really in control of the military, most of the power was split among warlords, some of whom were still using very old and outdated equipment and tactics using things like WW1 tactics (somewhat common tbf) like mass charges, old rifles, and no tanks Vehicle wise, the best they had really were WW1 era planes which were far inferior to Japanese planes. And despite Japanese tanks being pretty meme-worthy compared to other WW2 tanks, they are still better than nothing In terms of infantry, only a few divisions were properly "modernized" such as the soldiers depicted in the video. As such they were without a doubt the best prepared and most effective infantry vs the Japanese with modern equipment and tactics. However there were far too few to really make the difference The Japanese had been preparing for the invasion for a while and as such their troops were far better equipped and trained for the war, they were same fierce and effective Japanese troops that fought the Americans but with less of the "suicidal never retreat" mentality that came from losing ground and resources, and more so grim determination to defeat an old rival/enemy and survive in their territory. The biggest problem the Japanese had was their lack of numbers. They simply could not hold territory effectively enough across so much land and when the US entered the war they had to withdraw many troops from China to defend On the flip side, the communists had already been basically staging a guerrilla war vs the Nationalists so they had an idea on how to make it work vs the Japanese, only choosing to fight in the open when they had a clear advantage. This was far more effective than uniformed soldiers with outdated equipment and tactics trying to fight it out in the open constantly losing men and equipment and with various Pyrrhic victories if they ever got them
@@j6ger0 NO. The chinese soldiers has german equipment because they were part of the German trained divisions were the elite-quality, best trained and equipped infantry divisions in the Republic of China's National Revolutionary Army trained under Sino-German cooperation from 1926 to 1941. Its not only german helmets.
@@bongcloudopening5404 Simo Hayha is still the legendary sniper. What make him badass is he never use rifle issued by Finnish Army and never use scope.
@@basedneutral1173 The Japanese government still does not recognize the full extent of the warcrimes to this day. They still have memorials which have the names of convicted war criminals on them. Imagine telling a Holocaust victim that the German atrocities are all on the past. Imagine if the German government still celebrated there war criminals would you say the same things?
@@mrlime9526 those soldiers who commited ww2 crimes had nothing to do with newer government, people or the country itself, most veteran had passed away by now. I mean, what can they do anyways? Isnt those 2 nukes already enough for them? Im sure they have already apologise multiple times.
@@basedneutral1173 I’ve seen the Japanese media often portray the Japanese army in China being greeted at liberators despite the opposite being true. Hell one official even tried to justify Japanese sexual slavery once. No I’m not exaggerating that. There are still celebrations and medals for Japanese officers who even organized these atrocities themselves.
@@basedneutral1173 doesn’t change the fact. Regardless if the government is different, they still fail to entirely own up to there predessors atrocities, and sometimes even glorify or deny them.
@@gipsy_3o3pero si hubieran seguido el consejo de los alemanes,hoy china sería nacionalista😅😅. El asesor alemán les había ordenado no usar las divisiones de élite hasta que una emergencia los obligue pero cbian kai-shek las manda a nanking donde sufren bajas y para cuando termina la guerra,son derrotados por los comunistas y no los pueden frenar porque no tienen esas divisiones alemanas de elite
Forgot which of my great great uncle was in this unit, me being ex military in Australia the co always says before each mission “ if there are civilians you will lay your life for them” or something along the line, non spoken motto is we will always die for civilians, it is our job as soldiers to protect the innocent
Sadly, today both Chinese input in ww2 and Japanese war crimes in this war are often left without attention. I would suggest to everyone to read testimonies about Nanking Massacre, gives you an idea about how brutal this war was.
1) how is relevant? 2) Did i write that "China is innocent" 3) Just because China commits crimes in 2000s doesn't mean that millions of Chinese people who fought and died in the war against Japanese soldiers who raped, tortured and murdered them, don't deserve respect.
This is not a normal squadron but a squadron from the elite division which was fully equipped by German equipments and trained by German attache. By that time, it was probabily the only division that can fight against Japanese infantry and have a decent chance to win without a huge numerical advantage.
This is one of the rare Chinese movies that does not have kung-fu masters chop Japanese soldiers with their bare fists or farmers shooting down A6 Zeroes with a bow and arrow.
I want to see a war movie that has REALISTIC deaths. No flopping around and no throwing yourself to the ground, just instant limp and having your body buckle under your weight. Idk if anyone else feels this way but it bothers me that movies don’t get it right
Amir Zaky I own that movie. It’s also featured in the national library of Congress it’s so good. That movie is probably the only known movie that focused on realism while still adding the drama of Hollywood. Very good movie
Allen Fields oh I definitely understand that it can bring back bad memories with real soldiers, but on the other hand it can also educate the American public on the reality of war
I dont think so. These german trained soldiers won several battles against the japanese and on top of it, in every single battle they engaged the japanese, they inflicted the japanese more casualities than they themselves got.
@@T4ckyy I KNOW you said that, dummy. You were clearly saying your comment because you thought it was unrealistic.... You even asked rhetorically, "Is that realistic at all?"
A lot of contempt is heaped on mg armed light tanks,or "tankettes" but this clip showed how in the right circumstances they could be VERY effective. Firstly,they almost all carried a supply of armour piercing bullets that could at least be hazardous at close range vs most(not all)of the main AFVs until at least 1941. But mainly they were good at supporting infantry,though better in rural areas! The main advantage was that although the crew had lots to worry about, from enemy machine guns especially if firing armour piercing rounds to anti tank rifles and grenades the gunner of a "tankette" could nonetheless take a few seconds to get a good bead on his target with at least SOME degree of safety.
Too bad I have to buy this movie to watch the whole thing. It's not on Netflix, Hulu, nor HBO. They want money to buy it on Prime Video. Sad. So many good films outside of the USA, can't watch them.
Some of the contributing factors of the Japanese Victory over China's Allied army has to be with infighting among factions such as the Kumentang and Communist. China lacked alot on what Japan had tenfold a well equiped and Mechanized forces consisting of Tanks, Artilery, Aircraft and ships ready to support a long drawn out offensive though this doesn't mean china's weak.
the whole row of japanese soldiers walking through not watching the roofs, and the sniper taking down the rope to kill a tank makes this look pretty stupid City Of Life And Death scenes were much better and showed proper tactics
@@ItzToxicYTツ -- Thanks, but I knew the name of the film. I'm trying to locate it, like is it on Netflix, another streaming service, available for purchase, etc. Thanks again.
Not that I am fascist or anything but Germany teaching other nations how to be skilled fighters in wartime like China, as shown here,Chile, Argentina and even America (Prussian officer Eric Von Steuben I think was a big player in the creation of official military discipline and etiquette within the revolutionary army.)
The National Revolutionary Army of Republic of China, simply NRA is a German-trained Division that fought against the Imperial Army of Japan during the Sino-Japanese War. Germany, wanting to diminish Communism in their 'Aryan race superiority Complex', sought to help the Republic of China after rejecting, or rather cancelling their Pact with Russia, thus training their Chinese counterpart in an effort to thwart further reliance on Russia with its Communism, in which the Germans didn't wanted. They wore pre-War German Trauser, a German Military-parliament Casual Uniform, their infamous M1 Stallhelm, and a standard Infantry unit rifle. They were the most Elite within the Chinese Military, being able to defend themselves with just their rifles and acquired MGs during the Lend-lease. Well enough, months after months of tiresome fighting from men to men up to the last, they were soon overrun, and by the Winter of 1939, was enmasse diminished. With almost none to watch the end of the War. Most of them fought valiantly, but never did any large cause to support the War-effort as they were in smallest of groups.
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"Flowers of War" The chinese soldiers has german equipment because they were part of the German trained divisions were the elite-quality, best trained and equipped infantry divisions in the Republic of China's National Revolutionary Army trained under Sino-German cooperation from 1926 to 1941
Sadly not many survived halfway throughout the war
@@SororitasSimp True. Many of them felt during the Battles for Shanghai The rest, defending Nanking.
nah its because they are chinese gamers playing on the german side in real-world multiplayer WW2 shooter. JK!
Bien ahí
C'est propaganda movie de Nazy-Communist-Chinois.
If people din't know, that's the infamous 88th Infantry Division of the NRA (National Revolutionary Army) and was one of the most well-trained unit of the entire NRA forces that was trained by the Germans.
Before the Japanese invasion, China and Russia was in good terms and were often given arms and such. However when Chiang thought it was a good idea to rid the CCP once and for all, he riled up the Soviets and soon they pulled out in supporting and sending arms towards China. That left the KMT in a pickle and somehow along the way, Nazi Germany was just rising and need cash to revitalize their economy and what better way was to sell arms to one of their biggest exporter since the time of the Kaiser and that's China.
When the Nazis realized that Chiang has the same common goal of ridding the Communist as much as they do, not only did they sell them weapons enmasse, they also picked up the idea to help in training the NRA soldiers and along the way, 22 infantry divisions were sent to Germany in and all came back very well-trained in the German standard.
When Japan invaded, Japan wasn't in the triparte act thus Germany continued supporting China along the way by sending helmets, guns, ammo and even had their military advisor to Chiang, Falkenhausen stay in China and continue assisting Chiang with this "New Army".
Chiang was told to use them sparingly and only send them out as a breakthrough force by Falkenhausen but with the situation being desperate as the Japanese were overruning all Chinese positions from Shanghai (Chiang had already lost 2 German trained divisions in Shanghai with one even involved in the infamous Sihang Warehouse battle) to the outskirts of Nanking, Chiang still believed these forces were to be tossed in and fight hard to defend the city. Turns out, Chiang was wrong and that's how the lore of these German trained Chinese soldiers that have the ethos of "Not one inch closer for the Japanese" came about and how enraging it was for Chiang's military commanders to watch their best troops die in the slaughter when they could have kept them back and wait for a chance for them to strike a weary Japanese army.
Also Hitler made the worst move ever. China was in the same pact under "Anti-Comintern pact". The one who actually betrayed the whole pact was Japan. Germany abandoned China for Japan is when US got full green light to invade Germany. He made the biggest mistake in history was trading China for Japan and declaring war on US after Japan in attack Pearl Harbour. Japan was already on its own by the time the war started. No one trusted the Japs more than Germany. When Germans went for Japs. Everyone knew who should be destroyed first. He first planned for US to join Germany, then he went against it. Basically who ever goes against China is usually an enemy to the world by that time.
@@makemap Japan was a fully industrialized powerhouse with a capable navy. The sole Great Power in Asia. And you're saying the Germans should've sided with China, when what they needed was an ally with a powerful, modernized Navy? China was a liability. They would've been powerful had they had enough time to westernize, unite and become industrialized, but that wasn't the case during WW2.
Sorry but you're an idiot for criticizing Hitler's one optimal choice. It was wrong in hindsight considering the blunders Japan made themselves, but that was the best decision he could've made at the time.
And you're also wrong thinking we cared about China. No one gave a rat's ass (save for the tea-loving brits) about that backwards "nation" of savages. All they had to show for their large size were their large manpower and trading ports. Or did you miss the part where the League of Nations did nothing aside from morally condemning Japan's actions? The only reason the US embargoed Japan was because its ambitions in the south were disrupting the economy and trade.
The KMT even went as far as to try and garner sympathy from the West with their Sihang warehouse clown show. And we all know how that went, lol.
No one from the West respected China. It was ironically just Hitler who appreciated those rice farmers because China was historically powerful, but even he realized how futile it is to side with savages as opposed to an Imperial power who even though has an army with feudal mentality and equally feudal discipline, has modern weapons and can kick Chinese rice farmer butt 10 to 1.
The Japanese Imperial army, at least, despite being known for their sick perversion and cruelty were devoted to their own people and event went as far as to commit mass suicides just to keep the Allies away from their mainland. On the other hand you have the Chinese who at the same time period flooded and drowned thousands of their own people just to win the war.
Really, it's not surprising since these are the same types of people who take pride in their history of having "great" leaders who encouraged his men to cannibalize their wives and children, all to win a war. Such loyalty and heroism! Truly the way of a Chinese hero! LOL!
I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out the reason the Chinese fought so hard against the Japanese weren't because of empathy and sorrow, but because of intense racism - that their pride got crushed when the people they, for the longest time, considered to be inferior dwarves invaded them and they couldn't fight back.
As their famous Sun Tzu said, If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the dwarves so off to the meat grinder you go, my gullible Ling monkeys.
@@Kevin-kn6uq That's... Not really the case.
Chiang's purge of the Communist isn't because he found the Soviets useless and din't need them because "China was strong enough" but because the CCP was sowing discord amongst the alliance.
Before the actual 1927 purge, the CCP had already caused chaos for the KMT and the Zhili clique warlords who controlled Shanghai at that point back in 1925 during the May Fourth Incident. Chiang had personally saw how much chaos these Communist could do and with him just gaining power in late 1926, he can't have these people right in his backyard trying to create chaos and potentially wrest power from him.
It also din't help that he found out that Wang Jingwei, the actual defacto leader at that time of the KMT had worked behind Chiang's back and tallied up with the right-wing members to oust and coup Chiang which ironically Chiang found out about.
Then what gave Chiang the ultimatum to get rid of the thorn (the CCP) once and for all was how the CCP took Shanghai down themselves.
When the Communist wing of the alliance heard about the National Revolutionary Army (NRA) marching towards Shanghai in an attempt to oust the Zhili Clique once and for all, they started an armed uprising led by Zhou Enlai and Chen Duxiu and they indeed kicked the warlord army's ass and claimed Shanghai. When the NRA forces led by Li Zongren and Bai Chongxi reached Shanghai, they were actually shocked that the CCP had grown soo large and had beaten off a warlord army themselves. With the CCP now basically having a militia army and the fresh memory of what happened in 1925, the KMT were scared that these right-wingers would create discord again by going on massive riots and protest which, they were right.
Soon as the NRA had settled Shanghai, the CCP went straight to work and harassed the European powers in the International Settlement to release the entire area back to Chinese jurisdiction.
This actually shook the entire left-wing and caused paranoia to Chiang and many of his associates that if this continues, not only would the "face" of China be tossed into the bin with a burning fire right in it but also with the CCP armed now, they could challenge Chiang's authority with them being so great now and thus declared the CCP ousted from the Nanjing KMT. Thus, Chiang started passing secret edicts along the Nanjing KMT-held territories and even employed Triads like the Green Gang in Shanghai led by Du Yuesheng to capture, torture and publicly execute these "Commies" for all to see as the CCP were "anti-revolutionary in the ideals of late-Sun Yat-sen".
Soon, the purge happened everywhere from Zhuhai to Nanking and Changsha and beyond.
In an ironic twist of fate, Wang Jingwei was still at loggerheads with Chiang and still maintained a standpoint that these Communists were actually helpful and they could work together for a better China and maintained good ties with the Soviets in Wuhan with his own government called the "Wuhan KMT" but when he received news that Stalin had personally wrote to the leaders of the CCP even in Wang Jingwei's regime to raise up as a peasant army and kill Chiang. This shocked Wang who promptly negotiated with Chiang while watching his government collapsed and then fleeing to Germany.
@@JsJdv If Germany gave China more technology, Japan would not even stay in China. The Japanese army was crap, some Japanese were converting to Chinese side anyways. The Chinese puppets were giving up and de-linking from Japanese control. Japan would have been the first to go in the war and capitulate. They couldn't hold China let alone stay in China.
Even with the Navy, the Navy is useless because they cannot fight on land & an air war. The Zero was overrated. The BF109 fair much better against Zero as it can fight against P51 Mustangs and Spitfires no problem with Aces under the wings. Japan would have ran out of manpower and aircraft fighting against full German-Chinese alliance.
Japan had to get better weapons trading with Germans for example Tiger tank techs. Soviet Union could have just sat out for a while anyways as Germany is the main power house of all factions in WW2 technologically. They were the first to get Jet aircraft's, first to build continental rockets, first to get Heavy penetrating tanks that can knock out even cold war era tanks.
With Chinese manpower and resources German would have produce as much equipment as Soviet Union and gave them a massive edge. Just like today's German cars. Japan was not fully industrialized, it ran out of fuel. They did not know how to mine fuel. They were trading with Americans to get more fuels and conquering lands that produce fuel for their aircrafts. Why else they went Kamikaze mode.
Hitler made the biggest mistake of his life, not helping China out ,esp when they were already fighting Communist since Spanish civil war.
@@Kevin-kn6uq What Germany did not under stand was China was divided into multiple warlords during that time. None of the Warlords trusted each other, but Chiang had the most privileged due to Sun Yat sun. They should have stuck with it as Chiang had the most man power out of all the warlords. China invading Soviet would have massively helped unlike Japanese failed Mongolian front.
These are Kuomintang soldiers trained by germans, hence why they have german equipment. The german trained Republican soldiers were the best china had to offer, i believe.
Donald lisberg after 1937 Kuomintang start to find out german panzer I and II are rubbish so they ask Soviets for help and Soviets gaved them lots of soviet equipment and tank like t26 bt7 for free this also make Chinese army strong（by the way the Chinese air forse in 1930s are made in Soviet）
Not strong enough to prevent a communuist occupation of your country, Unfortunately.
It’s a damn shame
@@thedon9247
The Kuomintang were weakened after the war. They did all the fighting, while Mao was just buys recruiting people.
@@Oline1756 I'm keenly aware.
Those men fought diligently to protect and defend there people, respect.
They’re actors
Kostas anagno i dont remember writing this but still they are actors
THE COLD SAMURAI you’re a special kind of stupid, aren’t you?
@@sadcat9634 Whether they failed or not, we should still respect them.
@@sadcat9634 just cause they failed doesnt mean they didnt for their country
Back when germany was helping the chinese against the Japanese conquest into China. Before germany changed its allegiance to Japan.
Who thought they where Germans at the start?
Just asking.
Battle droid officer Code. Noone ...
Well that was fast.
The stahlhelms and grey uniforms got me for a second too, and it looked like one of them was European for a second. They were one of the elite divisions, trained and (somewhat) equiped by the Germans
@@braydencole6117 in the movie they were from army training school. Elite of the Elite.
I did but they're wearing the same helmets that the Germans had!!!!!
Germans: helping the chinese train and wear german uniform
Japanese: aren't we supposed to be allies
Chinese: well you thought wrong
This was in 1937, German-japan alliance was in 1941.
All support ended from that point on
@@alexmag342 All support ended from that point on? They were literal Allies in ww2...
@@SStupendous He meant that the german help to the Chinese stopped
@@alexmag342 Wrong All three were in the Anti-comintern pact. Japan made excuses to conquer China and failed. Germany fell for the lies which got itself killed in the process.
Well you thought Wong.
Chinese: **Wears German uniforms**
Japanese: Da Fuq?
They are not!
Hahaha
just the stalhelm helmets are german
@@Kevin-kn6uq das ist korrekt :)
@@gerald1495 ?
For a second i thought they were germans lol
No, they just use Germany weapons
Captain Pea germans in 1920上～1930s selled lots of stuff until Japanese totally invation of China make nazi stop to make trade then is Soviets and US helped China in 1930～1945
我跟你说这玉米是真的甜 They still supported China till they signed a pact with the Japanese in 1936. Until then, Germany supported China.
Chinese Stalingrad 😛
@@AnImperialGod But Germany was still training troops until 1937 the outbreak of the invasion. And I've read there was a German commander present in the Battle of Shanghai for some time, as it was a weird sight for the Chinese in battle. Also von Faulkonsen gave logistics to Chiang Kai Skek on how to stop temporarily repel the Japanese invasion.
this is chinese name 金陵十三钗 english name The Flowers Of War
he story of the film is set in the Nanjing Massacre during the Anti-Japanese War. It tells a moving story of Nanjing, China, occupied by Japanese forces in 1937, between people who do not know each other in a church. An American pretending to be a priest for saving people, a group of female students hiding in church, 14 women fleeing the war, soldiers and wounded soldiers who resisted death, put aside their lives and deaths at a time of crisis and went to a solemn covenant of death
Excellent film. Well done on every level. This is not an action, shoot-out type of movie, but, rather the battle scenes lend support to the drama of trying to save as many young female students as possible from Japanese atrocities. Much in the vein of Schindler's List. Chinese film making has come fully into it's own.
你说这里有几个日本人的爷爷们可能碰上我们的？
tell me how the film is called please!
@@ibragimsalikhov8262 The Flowers of War.
Isn't this called the second sino-japanese war?
The soliders have german gear because they are part of the nationalist chinese forces that were trained and supplied by Nazi Germany prior to Hitler eventually cutting of support for China at the request of the Japanese. These were the most elite and formidable troops of the Chinese nationalist forces and were more skilled and disciplined than their Japanese counterparts, winning many victories over them. However, in an effort to gain more substantial foriegn support against Japan's assault, Chiang threw them into the fray in the defense of Nanking, hoping they would put up a heroic defense that would move foreign countries to help. They did put up such a defense, often staying even when all other Chinese units had disintegrated and fled, holding to the last man or acting as guerrillas after being overrun. As the Chinese Nationalists were unable to relieve or replenish these units and no substantial foreign support arrived, they were decimated at Nanking and either wiped out or were only a shadow of their former self afterwards. The skill & determination of them presented in Flowers of War might seem overblown, but I can assure you that if anything the movie downplays this. Compared to standard Chinese & Japanese soldiers, the German-trained Chinese were supersoldiers that outwitted, outplayed, and frustrated the Japanese army to no end. Part of the reason Japanese soldiers were so brutal in their treatment of the people of Nanking was in retaliation for the shame of defeats inflicted on them by these soldiers.
Holy shit how long did u spent writing this bro but yeh the Chinese were supported by America and Germany during the second sino war
Thank you for this :)
傻逼，一个中国人的共产党宣传份子五毛党，跑油管洗脑来了？
Yeah but it wasn’t Nanking, it was Shanghai, they held off the Japanese for three months there but Nanking fell in a couple weeks I believe because all the German trained divisions were shredded but everything else is right, thanks for knowing history
The Chinese army has no superior unit than the Japanese army, even if it is the most elite unit.
I always love these types of urban gunfights
In movies, sure. Not in real life you tho.
@@bodiesatva obviously I will shit myself
Until your in one
@@Adriaticus nah
I will give these soldiers some effort for trying to stop the Japaneses. They did their best and tried their hardest
Man say what you will about this movie but I love watching war films where both sides take casualties. Makes the viewing ten times more enjoyable.
Unlike shitty movies where the "good" guys shoot full auto into the open and the bad guys die like flies, makes the movie seem like a joke, i like movies where battles are realistic where death is rare and most fire is tactical and supression just like real life
Russian bias war films 😅🤣
In reality 2 Russians killed to 1 German all I remember is Germany lost close to 3 million men just on the eastern front alone
So 6 million I'm guessing for Russia
Yet in all there movies its like "da comrade this is anti bullet vodka and our shkas never run out of ammo"
@@jake42731not the movie director’s fault that the Imperial Japanese Army rarely issued individual automatic firearms beside the squad machine gun.
If only they had panzerfausts, mg-34s or mg-42s and Sturmgewehrs.....
Why then they would be the Nazi Foreign Leigion lol
Just one MG34 and and a pak 38 could of done the job. Even the PAK 36 could of done the job. Nah probably even a 50 cal browning could of penetrated the armor of that tank
The machine guns they had were just fine. They don't need a big AT guns, an AT rifle like the PTRD probably would have done wonders.
The MG-34 was a bad weapon compared to the MG-42, shorter range, longer reload, harder to control, shorter mag, cooling it down was a bitch comparing to the 42', it was also more expensive to produce, and the panzerfaust was produced until 1945 being introduced in 1942, so these troops couldn't even use it lol... The STG also introduced in 1943. If your talking about the earlier variants then yeah they probably could have them.
@@haalandbraut3295 we know but the MG42 wasn’t invented yet and for the time the mg34 was still a really good MG.
3:57 we die in the battle at that time stamp and then we're in heaven after it would seem. Nice beaches.
This is basically Stalingrad in the East
Jinpingrad
@Tyrone an Inventor yeah
@@rifky8121 Chiangrad is more appropriate
Nanking probably
but the stalingrad is already in east
2:24 that grenade throw by the Japanese was risky af, that was good coordination
Well that's Two ways of getting rid of light tanks!! Lol.
yup..hahah.. a bazooka or at least one 50 cal with ap rounds could have made their life easier.
@@xcd87 they may not of had those at that time
I am surprised that in a war zone that is being fought at an infantry on infantry level in an urban landscape, the electricity wouldn't had already been knocked out by artillery and air attack.
Awesome street battle, what's the name of the movie? Thank you
Flowers of War.
@@imperialguardsman9867 Thank you
I believe the name of that tankette is a Te-ke it's all machine guns really tho good against infantry weak against tanks.
Of course. It’s a Light Tank for a reason. It’s soul purpose was to fight infantry
if only they had a couple of bazookas.
@@xcd87 nah, bazooka's didn't even exist that time
@@mirizid9667 panzerscheck
What about panzerfaust
This was the early stages of the war, the Nationalists switched from German stuff to US weapons n equipment towards the end of the war. Still put up heavy Resistance and fought hard til Japan was defeated. Then they fought hard during the civil war (1946-1949) until they was driven to Taiwan.
Germany used to supply China before the war, but then switched sides to help Japan
(this explains their similar looking armor to Germany)
0:29 this part was too funny
0:30 you can feel his hatred for the Japanese what they did during WW2 was Terrible this is justice for all of them Chinese women and children who were murdered.
For what they were yet to do, atrocities that would be committed in a war nearly a decade later? It's like saying a guy in a Civil War battle clip is getting revenge for Little BigHorn - simply hadn't happened yet.
@@SStupendous what are you saying? Hes talking about the massacre, it was already happening...
@@dkwhattouseasusername1012 The movie is directly before WW2... he's talking about their hate for things the Japanese did IN Ww2...
@@SStupendous ohhh I see your point, I thought the OG comment was talking about ww2 and the Sino-Japanese war, my bad
@@dkwhattouseasusername1012 Nah it's okay, this whole thread and OG comment is pretty damn confusing lol. Merry Christmas also.
The German holiday resort advert adds a surreal touch. 😛
Japanese soldier:Got you hahahaha
Chinese Sniper: Ima bout to end dis mans whole carrier
Bag: *Agreed*
I was low key expecting STUKA to drop over Japanese troops when I saw German uniform😂
At this point in the war, the Communist were not a big enough threat to withstand against the Nationalists. I believe this battle wiped out pretty much all the professional soldiers the Nationalist had against Japan that they were forced to join forces with the Communists. Am I missing something?
All of the KMT's best and most well trained units were destroyed in Shanghai and Nanking due to poor decisions by Chiang Kai Shek true but they still had a large military. They weren't really forced to join forces with the Communists due to lacking manpower so much as fighting both a civil war and a war against an overwhelming invading force was untenable. That said, by the time the meat grinder that was the second Sino-Japanese war ended, the KMT forces were decimated and the Communist forces had grown stronger.
@@unmessable12 es lo que pasa cuando tú partido es tan corrupto que le venden armas a todos los bandos incluyendo comunistas y japoneses.
From "The Flowers of War" based on the Rape of Nanking in December 1937, one of my favorite all-time movies starring Christian Bale. It was the most expensive movie ever made by the Chinese.
They always depict the Japanese as cumbersome soldiers but when you read history, they were really deadly. I’m not saying I’m a sympathizer, it’s just they fought well especially against Chinese solders, they really didn’t take mass casualties, fighting Chinese mainly because Chinese were technically in a civil war. So they Chinese didn’t put up a united fight. Ironically it was the nationalist, not communist who fought well against Japanese.
John Basilone's description in The Pacific created a pretty good picture of what the Japanese soldiers were capable of.
It actually goes deeper than that. The tactics and strategies of the Chinese National Forces (Kuomingtang) were so pathetic, they normally needed well over a million troops to defeat a force one-tenth their size. Only the Chinese Communist Red Army fared better due to better tactics. There should be no reason why a nation the size of China lost so much to an enemy like the Japanese one-fiftieth their size. It fault starts at the top with that idiot Chiang Hai-Shek and filters down. Yes, there were exceptions, but those were few and far in between. I studied Chinese war history from the 1820's Opium Wars to the end of the Chinese Civil War in 1952. Complete incompetence on the KMT. Only the Italians in WWII were worse and that is debatable!
No I’m pretty sure communist did a crappy job at defending the Chinese. There was a couple of communist victory in battles. But mainly fighting the Japanese the nationalist won majority of the battles. But at the behest of the American government nationalist let communist take power over China. Well partially. The other reason was unknown to why chaing Kai shek didn’t put up a fight again is t the communist after WW2.
I not a war historian, except classical warfare. Only the Chinese civil war interests me, When it comes to modern warfare that is. But for the most part the Chinese civil war is shrouded in mystery, thanks to the Chinese government. The only resource I managed to find on the war was a Mao biography. Anything put out by the Chinese government is really useless lies and Half truths. Other material I managed to find came form sociology books that gives a brief non detail accounts of the war. It interests me because it really was new world vs old world technology. Some of the warlords didn’t even have automatic weapons, only muzzle loading flintlocks. And let’s not forget all the back stabbing the communist were dong to their allies while the allies were fighting the real enemy, the Japanese.
"Backstabbing" isn't quite accurate either
Neither side really trusted each other but didn't really hamper each other. They just refused to cooperate. Despite their "United Front" the only real battle that was a "victory" for the combined forces fighting side by side was the Battle of Wuhan which basically resulted in the United Front forcing a Pyrrhic victory on the Japanese, killing many Japanese but still losing Wuhan
The only real "backstabbing" by the communists during the war was Mao's followers spreading propaganda so by the time the Japanese were defeated, Mao's new Red Army was far superior to the KMT and they had control over production. Plus the pieces were already in place, the communists could eventually grind down the KMT.
The KMT wasn't clean either, some of their troops would kill communists they found spreading the propaganda during the war against Japan which, in turn, gave the communists MORE propaganda material
There's no definite records on the war due to censorship and destruction, but ultimately:
The biggest issue was lack of modernization and unity. While Chiang was officially in charge of the KMT, he wasn't really in control of the military, most of the power was split among warlords, some of whom were still using very old and outdated equipment and tactics using things like WW1 tactics (somewhat common tbf) like mass charges, old rifles, and no tanks
Vehicle wise, the best they had really were WW1 era planes which were far inferior to Japanese planes. And despite Japanese tanks being pretty meme-worthy compared to other WW2 tanks, they are still better than nothing
In terms of infantry, only a few divisions were properly "modernized" such as the soldiers depicted in the video. As such they were without a doubt the best prepared and most effective infantry vs the Japanese with modern equipment and tactics. However there were far too few to really make the difference
The Japanese had been preparing for the invasion for a while and as such their troops were far better equipped and trained for the war, they were same fierce and effective Japanese troops that fought the Americans but with less of the "suicidal never retreat" mentality that came from losing ground and resources, and more so grim determination to defeat an old rival/enemy and survive in their territory.
The biggest problem the Japanese had was their lack of numbers. They simply could not hold territory effectively enough across so much land and when the US entered the war they had to withdraw many troops from China to defend
On the flip side, the communists had already been basically staging a guerrilla war vs the Nationalists so they had an idea on how to make it work vs the Japanese, only choosing to fight in the open when they had a clear advantage. This was far more effective than uniformed soldiers with outdated equipment and tactics trying to fight it out in the open constantly losing men and equipment and with various Pyrrhic victories if they ever got them
Is this "Flowers of War", a German movie? Where can one find it to watch?
No there Chinese against Japanese they just have the german steal helms
@@j6ger0 NO. The chinese soldiers has german equipment because they were part of the German trained divisions were the elite-quality, best trained and equipped infantry divisions in the Republic of China's National Revolutionary Army trained under Sino-German cooperation from 1926 to 1941. Its not only german helmets.
Allen Fields It's a chinese movie made in 2011.
@@FrancisRG yes they had german support and communist support but later they pushed away there communist support
@@FrancisRG i can see ur point but some of it was in ww2
I admit it the killing of imperial Japanese soldiers by Chinese troops was satisfying to watch.
确实，谢谢你
This scene is better and more realistic than one man Chinese sniper killing all Japanese regiment and Kung Fu trainer beats whole Japanese squad.
@@imranhazim5434 you wanna know whats cool and real? A finnish farmer sniped and killed 500 soviet soldiers in the span of 100 days
@@bongcloudopening5404 Simo Hayha is still the legendary sniper. What make him badass is he never use rifle issued by Finnish Army and never use scope.
Nanking was satisfying as well
0:24 Woah that was a big game of tag.
One of best Zhang Yimou movies I've seen. The Flowers of War.
Chinese armed soldiers getting killed by japanese soldiers in a chinese movie? i've never seen that before
I think this movie is made in taiwan
It hong kong....
Film in Chinese Mainland
Japan: Germany, why do the chinese have your equipment
Germany: Uhhhh I can explain
I still can't seem to forgive the Imperial Japanese Army for what they've done to my people. Probably due to the fact that Japan denied it at first.
Its in the past bud, you dont have to entirely blame the whole country
@@basedneutral1173 The Japanese government still does not recognize the full extent of the warcrimes to this day. They still have memorials which have the names of convicted war criminals on them. Imagine telling a Holocaust victim that the German atrocities are all on the past. Imagine if the German government still celebrated there war criminals would you say the same things?
@@mrlime9526 those soldiers who commited ww2 crimes had nothing to do with newer government, people or the country itself, most veteran had passed away by now. I mean, what can they do anyways? Isnt those 2 nukes already enough for them? Im sure they have already apologise multiple times.
@@basedneutral1173 I’ve seen the Japanese media often portray the Japanese army in China being greeted at liberators despite the opposite being true. Hell one official even tried to justify Japanese sexual slavery once. No I’m not exaggerating that. There are still celebrations and medals for Japanese officers who even organized these atrocities themselves.
@@basedneutral1173 doesn’t change the fact. Regardless if the government is different, they still fail to entirely own up to there predessors atrocities, and sometimes even glorify or deny them.
Thank you German for helping us soldiers train but not happy that you betray us a little
At least no germans fought in the asian theater
@@gipsy_3o3pero si hubieran seguido el consejo de los alemanes,hoy china sería nacionalista😅😅.
El asesor alemán les había ordenado no usar las divisiones de élite hasta que una emergencia los obligue pero cbian kai-shek las manda a nanking donde sufren bajas y para cuando termina la guerra,son derrotados por los comunistas y no los pueden frenar porque no tienen esas divisiones alemanas de elite
Forgot which of my great great uncle was in this unit, me being ex military in Australia the co always says before each mission “ if there are civilians you will lay your life for them” or something along the line, non spoken motto is we will always die for civilians, it is our job as soldiers to protect the innocent
The unstoppable men in there was-
*ThE cAmErA MaN*
You said 'men', plural, then said 'cameraMAN', singular...
People using nerf
Girls: I don't find this fun
Boys: let's have a WW2 battle
Who else thinks the Japanese actors are like really good at dieing
2:26
*UNO REVERSE CARD*
Dyaksa Hanindito *no u*
Sadly, today both Chinese input in ww2 and Japanese war crimes in this war are often left without attention. I would suggest to everyone to read testimonies about Nanking Massacre, gives you an idea about how brutal this war was.
China is doing the same now to the uyghurs in their concentration camps. Dont tell me that china is innocent
1) how is relevant?
2) Did i write that "China is innocent"
3) Just because China commits crimes in 2000s doesn't mean that millions of Chinese people who fought and died in the war against Japanese soldiers who raped, tortured and murdered them, don't deserve respect.
Yusif Verdiyev millions X
20million peopel killed and include muslim warlord‘s Ma army ✓
well i live in uyghur，how come i ve never seen any camps and the stuff you talking about？
There are zero testimonials about the alleged rape.
It's a myth
0:57 when the NPC for the first time didnt thank you for helping them
中国の兵隊がホントにこんなに勇敢だったら 日本の戦争は別のものになってたね🥲🥲🥲
就拿这个电影的战役来说“淞沪会战”中国军人投入70万，陆续增兵到上海，包括桂军、粤军、川军、滇军、湘军、东北军，和蒋介石的国民革命军，和中央教导总队，也就是电影中这个部队。以上这些军队原本是内战过的敌人。在日本登陆上海之后 这些军队从广西，四川，东北，徒步增援救上海。（当时中国几乎没有铁路）很多部队徒步一个多月到达战场 一天时间全部牺牲在上海。当时日军总兵力22万。中国军人死亡和受伤一共25万。日本死亡受伤一共9万。这并不是不够勇敢 当年的中国军人的武器装备完全劣势。日军华北方面司令员 杉杉元：三个月灭亡中国” 淞沪会战也打了三个月 并没有灭亡中国。中国国土面积大 日军战线补给拉到武汉会战 基本上国力亏损殆尽。读下历史吧
🇯🇵 = 💩
@@SpingleberrySo true
Props to the camera man who went back to WW2 to film this
Were the Chinese using a type 99 LMG?
Captured maybe?
Its actually a Czech ZB30. The British copied it as the Bren.
The Japanese can't defeat a little squadron of Chinese soldiers without their tanks
This is not a normal squadron but a squadron from the elite division which was fully equipped by German equipments and trained by German attache. By that time, it was probabily the only division that can fight against Japanese infantry and have a decent chance to win without a huge numerical advantage.
Movie looks very excellent, would definelty buy it.
This is one of the rare Chinese movies that does not have kung-fu masters chop Japanese soldiers with their bare fists or farmers shooting down A6 Zeroes with a bow and arrow.
I want to see a war movie that has REALISTIC deaths. No flopping around and no throwing yourself to the ground, just instant limp and having your body buckle under your weight. Idk if anyone else feels this way but it bothers me that movies don’t get it right
Amir Zaky I own that movie. It’s also featured in the national library of Congress it’s so good. That movie is probably the only known movie that focused on realism while still adding the drama of Hollywood. Very good movie
Try Band Of Brothers and Pacific!
Mr. Nuke, I understand what you are saying. But if you have actually seen your Brothers KIA, you don't need a reminder from Hollywood.
Allen Fields oh I definitely understand that it can bring back bad memories with real soldiers, but on the other hand it can also educate the American public on the reality of war
@@GriffinMusicOfficial -- Thanks for the polite reply. "Full Metal Jacket" is pretty damn accurate.
Yet another movie clip uploaded by this channel without giving any credit to the actual movie 😂
German and German trained soldiers could never have competed against Japanese fanaticism.
I dont think so. These german trained soldiers won several battles against the japanese and on top of it, in every single battle they engaged the japanese, they inflicted the japanese more casualities than they themselves got.
So they could shoot a guy mid air...but other aren't that great on accuracy?
Japanese troops were moving, not standing in one place like in the first stand off. Plus they had tanks for additional coverage and fire support.
Horrifying but beautiful scene without the music!
Bill is a protective person
He protec
He protect
But most importantly he attac
Be like bill
My great great grandfather served as a commander during the Second World War but he had to serve on Japan’s side because they took over China
Wang Jingwei's collaborationist government? How was he seen after the war by the Chinese citizens?
Superb movie, starring Christian Bale. Actually not that much action after these initial scenes but an excellent film in its own right.
What the hell i have this movie and none of this is in it.
John Palomo Then it’s not the movie you have unless this is a extended edition
I also have tjhis movie. For some reason most of tis was edited out.
I love how that machine gun guy shotted like 3 bullets and about 5 people died
---Because you don't think a bullet can go through someone? Smh
@@SStupendous did I say that?? All I said was he shot 3 bullets and 5 people died is that realistic at all? Do you know how to read?
@@T4ckyy I KNOW you said that, dummy. You were clearly saying your comment because you thought it was unrealistic.... You even asked rhetorically, "Is that realistic at all?"
lol “shotted”
There is no such thing as a shitty tank if your side doesn't have any.
tell me how the film is called please!
*A scene of intense shooting, war strife and people killing ends...
"Happy whistling starts..."
The braves man:
Camera man
柄付きグレネード投げ返すとこ好きやわ
Bro really say "Nuh uh, I got you"
What film is that from!! ??
A lot of contempt is heaped on mg armed light tanks,or "tankettes" but this clip showed how in the right circumstances they could be VERY effective. Firstly,they almost all carried a supply of armour piercing bullets that could at least be hazardous at close range vs most(not all)of the main AFVs until at least 1941.
But mainly they were good at supporting infantry,though better in rural areas! The main advantage was that although the crew had lots to worry about, from enemy machine guns especially if firing armour piercing rounds to anti tank rifles and grenades the gunner of a "tankette" could nonetheless take a few seconds to get a good bead on his target with at least SOME degree of safety.
Chinese National Army wearing Wehrmacht helmets. I think I’ve seen this movie. I know the Chinese get wiped out but they take a crap load with.
4:00 wtf why the atmosphere turned very joyful all in a sudden
Chinese army:wears germany equipment
Japanese army:Sus
It's the Japanese Army weating German equipment you donut..
@@SStupendous it's the Chinese army wearing German equipment you donut
@@couldntthinkofagoodname4384 o h y e a h!
What is the name of this film ?
Too bad I have to buy this movie to watch the whole thing. It's not on Netflix, Hulu, nor HBO. They want money to buy it on Prime Video. Sad. So many good films outside of the USA, can't watch them.
It was in kisssian
Rape of Nanking...a horrendous chapter in WW II and in Japanese history!! It should never be forgotten!!
2:15 THE JAPAN GUY ALMOST CRUSHED BY THE TANK..UPPER LEFT GUY INFRONT TAKE A LOOK..!
Damn.
Germany: supporting china against japan.
Japan: supporting poland against germany.
What film is this
flowers of war
Crazy if you think that the Chinese Army had much more manpower number wise than the Imperial Japanese...
Some of the contributing factors of the Japanese Victory over China's Allied army has to be with infighting among factions such as the Kumentang and Communist. China lacked alot on what Japan had tenfold a well equiped and Mechanized forces consisting of Tanks, Artilery, Aircraft and ships ready to support a long drawn out offensive though this doesn't mean china's weak.
the whole row of japanese soldiers walking through not watching the roofs, and the sniper taking down the rope to kill a tank makes this look pretty stupid
City Of Life And Death scenes were much better and showed proper tactics
Any suggestions where to find this Chinese film in the U.S. Is it sub-titled throughout?
The Flowers Of Wars
@@ItzToxicYTツ -- Thanks, but I knew the name of the film. I'm trying to locate it, like is it on Netflix, another streaming service, available for purchase, etc. Thanks again.
@@allenfields9058 you can try kissasian, it's full of Asian movies
Name of movie?
Pretty sure its "flowers of war"
What movie is this scene from?
今の日本は改まって強さを隠す
二度とこう言うことが無いようにしたいね。
What movie is this from? fantastic
Flower of war
Before I thought they were German soldiers fighting the Japanese in China
Not that I am fascist or anything but Germany teaching other nations how to be skilled fighters in wartime like China, as shown here,Chile, Argentina and even America (Prussian officer Eric Von Steuben I think was a big player in the creation of official military discipline and etiquette within the revolutionary army.)
Movie name please ?
flowers of war
Movie name pleaae
name:金陵十三钗
@@mitchellchen9229 what's that! theres no English name
@@khailiansang8213 come on dude just copy it
@@mitchellchen9229 hahaaaa..thank you,anyway
Movie name?
Flowers of war
Nankin attack started on 1937 and 1939 ww2 start so this is not part of ww2 :) correct me if im wrong.
but china was actually part of the allied and japan is part of axis
Ok this is a kickass looking movie!
戦車見たいなやつで駆逐するシーン爽快
94式軽装甲車ですよ！かっこいいですよね！
Shotgun -“t” = Shogun(将軍). m(._.)m
The National Revolutionary Army of Republic of China, simply NRA is a German-trained Division that fought against the Imperial Army of Japan during the Sino-Japanese War. Germany, wanting to diminish Communism in their 'Aryan race superiority Complex', sought to help the Republic of China after rejecting, or rather cancelling their Pact with Russia, thus training their Chinese counterpart in an effort to thwart further reliance on Russia with its Communism, in which the Germans didn't wanted. They wore pre-War German Trauser, a German Military-parliament Casual Uniform, their infamous M1 Stallhelm, and a standard Infantry unit rifle. They were the most Elite within the Chinese Military, being able to defend themselves with just their rifles and acquired MGs during the Lend-lease. Well enough, months after months of tiresome fighting from men to men up to the last, they were soon overrun, and by the Winter of 1939, was enmasse diminished. With almost none to watch the end of the War. Most of them fought valiantly, but never did any large cause to support the War-effort as they were in smallest of groups.
What is the film
Flowers of war
Can anyone tell the movie name??
chinese name call it “金陵十三釵“
you can try to copy that and then google search
Piyush Gupta 金陵十三钗 a movie made by mainland China
Thanks
Sadly china just did not have enough of these trained battalions to make a big difference. Had they pearl harbor would have never happened.