@@Thephillips-dj1po Band of Brothers definitely had its moments. Mostly Bastogne, Foy, and Carentan. But The Pacific is incredibly brutal. And another thing I like is how John Basilone's story is used to demonstrate how even the decorated heroes may end up being just one more name on a long list of casualties. The overall "no heroes" theme of The Pacific is rather refreshing with how Hollywood war movies often glorify the protagonists.
The battle of the Tenaru was intense. The Japanese were confident their bayonet charges could do the job like they had against the Chinese, but then they encountered Marine firepower. I think no more than a dozen Japanese troops were taken prisoner, most of them unconscious.
At Tenaru, marine firepower was about the same as the Japanese: WW1 era bolt action rifles and light .30 caliber machine guns and a few mortars. The Marines did not get the M1-garand until later. The Japanese were continuing the suicidal tactic of open infantry assault in mass groups. After Guadalcanal, they virtually stopped doing that and fought a ferocious defensive war. In China, the Japanese again faced almost even technology. The Chinese were mostly armed with modern Mauser bolt actions and the same class of light .30 cal machine guns, plus plenty of artillery - old but serviceable. The main difference was Japanese air power and iron discipline, compared to weak Chinese leadership and self-motivated officers and generals. Even so, the Japanese employed the same hard charging tactics that cost them very high casualties. It worked in China, where the Chinese army would retreat and simply fade away into the civilian population. But not against the Marines who were landed on islands with no place to retreat. The fighting was to the death on both sides, often at very close ranges.
@@davidkamaunu8734 So were the Japanese. The popular myth of the near sighted Jap with thick glasses who couldn't shoot was totally busted at Guadalcanal. And, they were masters of the bayonet. There were several reason the Japanese lost so badly in that battle, 1) lack of food and medicine for malaria and dysentery 2) Lack of ammunition for both rifle and artillery 3) the suicidal practice of charging entrenched positions. And 4) most importantly, very aggressive American navy attacks on anything that moved to supply the Japanese, no matter how outnumbered or what the flotilla make up was. It was the naval battles off Guadalcanal that caused the Japanese admiralty to limit exposure to US Naval forces, much of the caution due to the reckless aggression of American destroyer captains. US destroyers were heavily armed, and well crewed, and could inflict serious damage to the valuable troop transports which the Japanese could not replace. The marines also suffered malaria and dysentery but they had quinine and much better supply consistency. They also captured significant amounts of Japanese rice at the airfield. If little else, they had energy sustaining carbohydrates which the Japanese did not. Fatal casualties were about 1600 US vs. 30,000-40,000 Japanese. Most of the latter died of other than combat causes.
God Damn! I forgot how dark this show can be. Thank you for going thru all this for the video. Couldn't have been easy looking at all the night scenes, and then the "darker" scenes later in the show!
Homecoming is joyful but challenging for the Marines, Leckie asks a question long delayed, Lena meets her in-laws and Sledge endures a painful recovery.
Hahahaha.....the scene at 12:25 - when Snafu was tossing pebbles in the Japanese's skull! Classic! I wonder if that stunt-actor ever got his head back?? 🙃
Love you carnage! I’m so happy your channel is still alive, I remember when you guys got copyrighted and you guys were on hiatus for a while, U GUYS ARE AWESOME ❤
Life is absolutely precious. I like this video because every life lost shows an entire family broken, and how much they gave their lives and how it affects the future generation. God bless them all. Long live the greatest generation!
Note that Sledge and his squad all use M1 Carbines, This is due to the fact their mortarmen because the Carbine at that time was not a USMC standard weapon as most were issued to the Army
The first battle is Guadacanal as depicted in the movie. Had an uncle who fought the Battle of the Ilu River (AKA: Alligator Creek & incorrectly as Teneru due to the poor maps of the era) he was in one of 4 tanks that next morning cleared out the coconut grove in which Col Ichiki's men retired after the nights slaughter. Icjiki's force consisted of 900 men.
According to the Marine Corps histories and after action reports, when Vandergrift had sent those 4 Stuart tanks in, they came out of the coconut grove with the tracks looking like a meat grinder; as they had supposedly drove over some of the Japanese wounded. Rumors of the Goettge Patrol massacre had reached H/2/1 by that point, coupled by wounded Japanese wounded attacking 2/1 Corpsmen with grenades earlier that day. No chances were taken that afternoon.
Your comment is 100% correct as I was told by my relative specifically : "The back of his tank was covered with hamburger meat." There were combative Japs in what he called "spider holes" which the tanks ground down. He stated that a wounded Jap, which he dispatched with his pistol, that tried to place a mine on his tank. I found out much later, from an author seeking to interview my relative, that my uncle was the last survivor of the 4 tank crews thus the only one left to interview. "After Guadacanal the 1St Marines went on R&R In Australia, refitted and then sent off to another hell hole called New Britain.
I don't need a response from Tom Hanks, I just hope he understands that this helps me understand how this brings me to understand why I never knew my grandfather who went to the pacific. Thank you.
3:40 Man facing down a charge like that with a bolt action rifle would be horrifying. Sure it would still be horrifying even equipped with a m1 garand but I would feel like my chances of surviving would be slightly higher.
The M1 Garand is the rifle that stopped most Banzai charges, This was in fact the rifle's original theatre of war Carbines didn't in arrive in the Pacific theatre until later, The USMC at Guadalcanal up into Okinawa had mostly Garands and the first action for the weapon was during the Attack On Pearl Harbor on December 7th 1941
May all the soldiers on both sides rest in peace. Thank God, I never had to witness anything like this, for I would have been one of the first to fall.
Great Great Grandfather served in a tank group in the Pacific. He had a Japanese Headband and Flag (with blood) in my Grandmothers attic. Wish I could have met him to know the shit these poor men went through.
I know what you mean, I had a few relatives in WWII, one was in the pacific and had some stories about basically being completely covered in plant matter from bullets just tearing through trees. Another relative of mine went to Europe but was "last seen somewhere in Berlin" so not 100% on that one.
War is hell. My grandfather served in the Korean war and got a bronze star. He'd wake up with night terrors and random bouts of ptsd at times until he got alzhimers. But he was his squads marksman and I can only imagine what he had to do. And he was a very religious catholic man but he said he did things he doesn't think the lord would approve of. He told me his platoon leader got his leg blown off by a morter shell and my grandfather tourniquet his wound and put him on his back and ran. My grandfather got hit with an enemy round in the leg and he said he would feel it hurt at random times and he said he didn't feel it while he had adrenaline but once that wore off he almost passed out because of the pain. Luckily it didn't hit and artery. 🙌 I just hope people learn from the past and don't go to war.
I’d rank this one equally with Band of Brothers. I thought BoB had more memorable characters and more “action”, but The Pacific had a better soundtrack and final episode (that one was soul crushing, especially the end credits).
Admiral Halsey predicted in 1943 that taking Peleliu wasn't necessary. He wanted to push on through the Philippines bypassing Peleliu. His advice was ignored, but turned out to be right in the aftermath.....
I can't think of a world worse than this than hell. In hell, at least you know you are already dead. A hope that you could live is worse. Thank you warriors who make my freedom possible.
I was considering playing Medal of Honor Rising Sun recently but now am gravitating more towards replaying World at War. I just remember there being grenades everywhere on higher difficulties.
I do think every Pacific theatre game I've played does show lush jungle, I remember some fairly barren islands in Battlefield 1942 but I think they were still colorful
"If you don't like being spammed by grenades everywhere, why don't you stay away from their grenade range? You do know they can only throw grenades so far, right?"
5:40 What bugs me that for all the realism and gore, they still cannot get fire and explosions right . For something that is front and center like this you just need better effects, or actually shoot a real vehicle explosion.
Good history channels to check out on such Pacific campaigns or from other wars or very specific topics include: Liveth Evermore Historgraph Real Time History Time Ghost History Montemayor Rare Earth The Great War (WW1 week by week was hosted by Indy. Now run by a new host) Korean War (week by week, currently active. Chinese just invaded 11/26/53, also hosted by Indy Neidell) World War Two In Real Time (week by week hosted by Indy Neidell) The History Guy (More general history, but his war stuff is pretty popular) Potential History Paper Skies (aviation) D-Day 24 Hours Rex's Hanger (aviation) Dr. Alexander Clarke (PHD in Royal Navy History) Skynea History (naval history) Drachinifel (Age of Sail to 1950 Naval History and my favourite) Armored Archivist (Royal Navy World War Two naval history) Operations Room & sister channel Intel Report
Hailed as war heroes, the Marines take leave in Melbourne where Sgt. Basilone receives the military's highest honor, Leckie makes a local love connection.
Band of Brothers: The bonds you make with the men you fight beside.
The Pacific: Unflinching depiction of what war does to a person.
I feel Band of Brothers has small parts for what war does to someone, but that was kinda on the side where as here it's front and center.
Generation Kill: What being in the army is really about.
@@Thephillips-dj1po Band of Brothers definitely had its moments. Mostly Bastogne, Foy, and Carentan. But The Pacific is incredibly brutal. And another thing I like is how John Basilone's story is used to demonstrate how even the decorated heroes may end up being just one more name on a long list of casualties. The overall "no heroes" theme of The Pacific is rather refreshing with how Hollywood war movies often glorify the protagonists.
BoB: Grandpa’s war yarns.
Pacific: What grandpa didn’t talk about.
Masters: It's just... there.
Running into enemy fire with no protection has to be one of the scariest things.
Sledge begins Marine Corps training, traumatized by his combat experiences, an exhausted and heartbroken Leckie finds himself in the hospital.
That's Interesting 🤔🤔🤔
But Leckie gets the girl in the end, and discovers that he can write as well.
Has anyone ever told you the definition of insanity...that what war is.
War is hell
The battle of the Tenaru was intense. The Japanese were confident their bayonet charges could do the job like they had against the Chinese, but then they encountered Marine firepower. I think no more than a dozen Japanese troops were taken prisoner, most of them unconscious.
At Tenaru, marine firepower was about the same as the Japanese: WW1 era bolt action rifles and light .30 caliber machine guns and a few mortars. The Marines did not get the M1-garand until later. The Japanese were continuing the suicidal tactic of open infantry assault in mass groups. After Guadalcanal, they virtually stopped doing that and fought a ferocious defensive war.
In China, the Japanese again faced almost even technology. The Chinese were mostly armed with modern Mauser bolt actions and the same class of light .30 cal machine guns, plus plenty of artillery - old but serviceable. The main difference was Japanese air power and iron discipline, compared to weak Chinese leadership and self-motivated officers and generals. Even so, the Japanese employed the same hard charging tactics that cost them very high casualties. It worked in China, where the Chinese army would retreat and simply fade away into the civilian population. But not against the Marines who were landed on islands with no place to retreat. The fighting was to the death on both sides, often at very close ranges.
Every Marine a Marksman. And they were skilled melee fighters.
@@davidkamaunu8734 So were the Japanese. The popular myth of the near sighted Jap with thick glasses who couldn't shoot was totally busted at Guadalcanal. And, they were masters of the bayonet.
There were several reason the Japanese lost so badly in that battle, 1) lack of food and medicine for malaria and dysentery 2) Lack of ammunition for both rifle and artillery 3) the suicidal practice of charging entrenched positions. And 4) most importantly, very aggressive American navy attacks on anything that moved to supply the Japanese, no matter how outnumbered or what the flotilla make up was. It was the naval battles off Guadalcanal that caused the Japanese admiralty to limit exposure to US Naval forces, much of the caution due to the reckless aggression of American destroyer captains. US destroyers were heavily armed, and well crewed, and could inflict serious damage to the valuable troop transports which the Japanese could not replace.
The marines also suffered malaria and dysentery but they had quinine and much better supply consistency. They also captured significant amounts of Japanese rice at the airfield. If little else, they had energy sustaining carbohydrates which the Japanese did not.
Fatal casualties were about 1600 US vs. 30,000-40,000 Japanese. Most of the latter died of other than combat causes.
God Damn! I forgot how dark this show can be. Thank you for going thru all this for the video. Couldn't have been easy looking at all the night scenes, and then the "darker" scenes later in the show!
The bloodiest battle of the Pacific rages for months on Okinawa where Sledge's company is horrified by the cost to civilians caught in the crossfire.
Yeah, and the Japanese would use them as human shields, because they felt the Okinawan's were subhuman!
The battle for Peleliu's airfield results in high casualties, Sledge fights thirst, fear and an entrenched enemy and Leckie desperately seeks a medic.
Luz: "I thought you didn't smoke."
Lipton: "I don't."
Snafu: "You used to not smoke."
Sledge: "Guess I do now."
I always heard "used to do now"
Homecoming is joyful but challenging for the Marines, Leckie asks a question long delayed, Lena meets her in-laws and Sledge endures a painful recovery.
Hahahaha.....the scene at 12:25 - when Snafu was tossing pebbles in the Japanese's skull!
Classic!
I wonder if that stunt-actor ever got his head back?? 🙃
Love you carnage! I’m so happy your channel is still alive, I remember when you guys got copyrighted and you guys were on hiatus for a while, U GUYS ARE AWESOME ❤
The horrors of combat unfold for three young US Marines fighting their way through the blood, mud and rain of the Pacific theater during World War II.
Life is absolutely precious. I like this video because every life lost shows an entire family broken, and how much they gave their lives and how it affects the future generation. God bless them all. Long live the greatest generation!
There will truly never be a generation that sacrificed so much, long live the greatest generation and thank you all for your service
Note that Sledge and his squad all use M1 Carbines, This is due to the fact their mortarmen because the Carbine at that time was not a USMC standard weapon as most were issued to the Army
Long live the greatest generation and thank you all for your heroic service. Your sacrifices will never be forgotten
12:24 This scene here shocked me so much when i watched for the first time, and i was only 16
生々しいのが映画として良いんだよ
Nooo that's too young to watch such horror. 😢
The Pacific is without a doubt a series equal to that of Generation Kill in terms of realism and accuracy.
I don't remember seeing any body parts flying off during Gen Kill, do you?
The first battle is Guadacanal as depicted in the movie. Had an uncle who fought the Battle of the Ilu River (AKA: Alligator Creek & incorrectly as Teneru due to the poor maps of the era) he was in one of 4 tanks that next morning cleared out the coconut grove in which Col Ichiki's men retired after the nights slaughter. Icjiki's force consisted of 900 men.
According to the Marine Corps histories and after action reports, when Vandergrift had sent those 4 Stuart tanks in, they came out of the coconut grove with the tracks looking like a meat grinder; as they had supposedly drove over some of the Japanese wounded. Rumors of the Goettge Patrol massacre had reached H/2/1 by that point, coupled by wounded Japanese wounded attacking 2/1 Corpsmen with grenades earlier that day. No chances were taken that afternoon.
Your comment is 100% correct as I was told by my relative specifically : "The back of his tank was covered with hamburger meat." There were combative Japs in what he called "spider holes" which the tanks ground down. He stated that a wounded Jap, which he dispatched with his pistol, that tried to place a mine on his tank. I found out much later, from an author seeking to interview my relative, that my uncle was the last survivor of the 4 tank crews thus the only one left to interview. "After Guadacanal the 1St Marines went on R&R In Australia, refitted and then sent off to another hell hole called New Britain.
Lovely indeed!😅 I love the pin ball sound with each kill!😂
I don't need a response from Tom Hanks, I just hope he understands that this helps me understand how this brings me to understand why I never knew my grandfather who went to the pacific. Thank you.
Yes finally After 7 years too along with band of brothers
Now imagine if the mainland islands got invaded instead of two nukes dropping. Truman really is an underrated president.
My mom’s father went to Iwo Jima when he was in the army, he had to do cleanup
3:40 Man facing down a charge like that with a bolt action rifle would be horrifying. Sure it would still be horrifying even equipped with a m1 garand but I would feel like my chances of surviving would be slightly higher.
“…and count the soreness afterward a small price indeed.”
The M1 Garand is the rifle that stopped most Banzai charges, This was in fact the rifle's original theatre of war Carbines didn't in arrive in the Pacific theatre until later, The USMC at Guadalcanal up into Okinawa had mostly Garands and the first action for the weapon was during the Attack On Pearl Harbor on December 7th 1941
Next Windtalkers (2002) - Carnage Count
I would like to see Windtalkers (2002) being counted
Good.
アメリカ海兵隊の人々と日本軍の人々は故郷から離れている島で死んでいくのは無念だなと思う。 1:47ここで日本の人が天皇陛下万歳って言って死んでいくのを見て、当時日本は戦況も悪化して必死だんったんだと思う
末期は絶滅戦争に入る寸前にまで行きましたから。当時の人種差別も考えると、あと数歩ほどでアメリカはナチスドイツを馬鹿に出来ない所だった…
I haven't finished the pacific but god that was visceral 😬
That is a lot of work Carnage Counts! Great job!!!! PS Could you please do Future World with James Franco, Lucy Liu & Milla Jovovich?
May all the soldiers on both sides rest in peace. Thank God, I never had to witness anything like this, for I would have been one of the first to fall.
200 Deaths In 1 Minute? crazy
At last! ...a Carnage Count like the US National Debt Clock.
Great Great Grandfather served in a tank group in the Pacific. He had a Japanese Headband and Flag (with blood) in my Grandmothers attic. Wish I could have met him to know the shit these poor men went through.
I know what you mean, I had a few relatives in WWII, one was in the pacific and had some stories about basically being completely covered in plant matter from bullets just tearing through trees. Another relative of mine went to Europe but was "last seen somewhere in Berlin" so not 100% on that one.
Amazing job counting all this !
Carnage Counts is going through a war in these intros. I would love to see a Carnage Count video of the resulting story overall.
I'll put one out whenever we are at a good stopping point!
4:14 they killed the Punisher...
With the night assault scenes, I would have lost count ages ago.
We need a hell let loose set in the Pacific
I am not liberal, but thank you Spielberg and Hanks for your movies showing how bad any war is horrible. Actually more than horrible. Hell on Earth.
Finally, my fav miniseries
Hot take: i much prefer The Pacific over Band of Brothers
I do too!
meh, pacific was VERY slow and had way too many filler scenes
@@chzll7301 I think the Melbourne segments really kill the pacing to be honest
人数や物量が違いすぎて、日本軍には勝ち目がなかったですね。2度と戦争にならない事を祈ります。
One of my favourite series.
15:34 this scene make's me angry of what the Japanese do to their own civilian
War is hell. My grandfather served in the Korean war and got a bronze star. He'd wake up with night terrors and random bouts of ptsd at times until he got alzhimers. But he was his squads marksman and I can only imagine what he had to do. And he was a very religious catholic man but he said he did things he doesn't think the lord would approve of. He told me his platoon leader got his leg blown off by a morter shell and my grandfather tourniquet his wound and put him on his back and ran. My grandfather got hit with an enemy round in the leg and he said he would feel it hurt at random times and he said he didn't feel it while he had adrenaline but once that wore off he almost passed out because of the pain. Luckily it didn't hit and artery. 🙌 I just hope people learn from the past and don't go to war.
@@clavididk1236 Respect for you're grandpa ❤
@@trololoGmodthanks 🙌
@@trololoGmod thanks 🙌
I’d rank this one equally with Band of Brothers. I thought BoB had more memorable characters and more “action”, but The Pacific had a better soundtrack and final episode (that one was soul crushing, especially the end credits).
Peleliu was such a waste of an island to take
Admiral Halsey predicted in 1943 that taking Peleliu wasn't necessary. He wanted to push on through the Philippines bypassing Peleliu. His advice was ignored, but turned out to be right in the aftermath.....
Those was the good old days
Soo Tim survived Jurassic Park in 1993 and grew and time travel to join Marines in WW2...
He has had a traumatizing life
God The Pacific is an amazing show, and even better, Joe bernthal is in it.
#692 was brutal… War Sucks!
Ep 9 is more traumatizing than you think
I can't think of a world worse than this than hell. In hell, at least you know you are already dead. A hope that you could live is worse. Thank you warriors who make my freedom possible.
Awesome
All for what? Ego can destroy the world and all human greatness. War is the worst humanity can create.
OMG 748 KILLS!
2:04 God Bless Peaches ❤
Geez, nothing but carnage.
Can you please do one about generation kill
Could you do a Carnage Count for Stay Tuned? (the movie with John Ritter)
9:39 rip mr 500 guy );
Pearl Harbor (2001) and Midway (2019) Carnage Count please
Some movie this is! They didn't put neither USS Washington vs Kirishima nor Leyte Gulf or something like those.
It was focused on the Marines...
i am amazed the japanese have perfect teeth
At least it will all go quicker, this time around ...
235 - 236 in the first2 min is crazy lol
4:25 the cow!!!
Honestly, The Pacific is more brutal than Band of Brothers
I believe this is the first one over 400
next: master of the air
The expendables 4 next please
Call of Duty World at War: The series
I was considering playing Medal of Honor Rising Sun recently but now am gravitating more towards replaying World at War. I just remember there being grenades everywhere on higher difficulties.
World at War, except the Marines actually look like Marines and Peleliu is an actual hellscape instead of a generic jungle.
I do think every Pacific theatre game I've played does show lush jungle, I remember some fairly barren islands in Battlefield 1942 but I think they were still colorful
"If you don't like being spammed by grenades everywhere, why don't you stay away from their grenade range?
You do know they can only throw grenades so far, right?"
the worst part is that it was all true...poor guys :(
Sad situation for everyone involved
If you haven’t done Band of Brothers, can you do it?
5:40 What bugs me that for all the realism and gore, they still cannot get fire and explosions right . For something that is front and center like this you just need better effects, or actually shoot a real vehicle explosion.
War is Hell
❤
Right on the heels of "Band of Brothers"?! Dude take some time off for some rest.
This has to be the deadliest mini-series ever made, right?
Wait,why did the carnage count number become red at 666🤔?
I am sofo ended by ads of lego war toys added to this, Does anyone have any decorum or respect?
But the Punisher didn't make it through WW2... :)
Good history channels to check out on such Pacific campaigns or from other wars or very specific topics include:
Liveth Evermore
Historgraph
Real Time History
Time Ghost History
Montemayor
Rare Earth
The Great War (WW1 week by week was hosted by Indy. Now run by a new host)
Korean War (week by week, currently active. Chinese just invaded 11/26/53, also hosted by Indy Neidell)
World War Two In Real Time (week by week hosted by Indy Neidell)
The History Guy (More general history, but his war stuff is pretty popular)
Potential History
Paper Skies (aviation)
D-Day 24 Hours
Rex's Hanger (aviation)
Dr. Alexander Clarke (PHD in Royal Navy History)
Skynea History (naval history)
Drachinifel (Age of Sail to 1950 Naval History and my favourite)
Armored Archivist (Royal Navy World War Two naval history)
Operations Room & sister channel Intel Report
Kill count 517 , he didn’t die
Never stop making these.
Manny died and came back as The Punisher
Too angry to stay dead
Separate the count !
hi carnage, could u carnage the movie deathwatch 2002. Considering a war movie and a terror too. thanks :D
No number needed.
Is this movie or series?
series
Sgt. Basilone sells war bonds on tour with a Hollywood actor, Sledge joins Leckie and the 1st Marines as they prepare for the invasion of Peleliu.
14:58 / 59 92ed
I looked like thet were all gonna die
You missed 2
Fighting Japanese forces for control of Peleliu's rocky and desolate hills, Sledge and his company engaged in harrowing hand-to-hand combat.
The 1st Marine Division lands at Guadalcanal, new enlistee Leckie and his company meet fierce enemy resistance amid a lack of food and ammunition.
You missed one!
Hailed as war heroes, the Marines take leave in Melbourne where Sgt. Basilone receives the military's highest honor, Leckie makes a local love connection.
Heavily outnumbered, Sgt. Basilone's machine gun units make a valiant stand against a ferocious nighttime assault on Henderson Field.
its a series
👍👍👍👍👍
Basically, like every Jewish holucast movie which I belie..ve is necessary for ever high school, so should this.