For anyone that's looking for the modified template for the 12" Axial Glide saw, I have added a download button in the blog article so you can download it directly. The modified version was submitted by a viewer that has a 12" saw and modified it to suit. www.danpattison.com/blog/axial-glide-dust-mods
Thank you very much - 5 years later. I just picked one up this week [$250 off on sale also], and am in the process of setting it up in shop. I could use all the tips you offer as wood working is new hobby for me. I was literally inches from buying a 12" Milwaukee - primarily because it was a bigger unit at the same price, but also because I really liked that Milwaukee has the bigger square dust extraction [which i was planning to set up into a box style dust enclosure system]. Your video was very informative, clear, and direct. You have a new subscriber up here in Ontario, Canada, and I look forward to catching up on all you videos.
I just finished the dust boot on my 12 inch Bosch. I also did the zero clearance insert. I did have to modify the boot slightly but it was no big deal. I have drastically reduced the amount of dust. The insert makes quite a difference as well. I'm just using a very small shop vac and don't feel the need for anything larger. Thank you for this video. The mods are well worth while.
Just made one of these and tested it. The thing is that I missed that it is for the 10 in saw and I have a 12 in. And yet it works fabulously. I couldn't do the magnet hook up on the top as the fitting is apparently different but it still works great. the only thing that was off a bit was the hole pattern for the hooks. It didn't get every single bit but it's a huge improvement and I doubt a Kapex does any better. Thank you!
Great video production elements. Full marks. I like the wire boot support. What about a small hinged (connected to bottom run of the wire) ramp extender at the bottom allowing it to touch the table.
In an age when everything is 3d printed and plans being sold, it is really refreshing to see an effective plan available for free (made with Dollarstore materials, no less!)
Great design Dan, I downloaded the plan last year and just put it on today. I used a old windshield washer jug, and cut your pattern from that, Didnt need the piece of wire.
I don't know if you could ever get it better than that! You cleaned up a very dirty bird! About the only thing that might improve things from where you are now would be to make a buck out of wood in the shape of a mating connector of a 2" hose and put it in the hose end of the saws dust chute and use a heat gun to persuade it into the larger diameter. I believe a 2" hose from saw to vac would defiantly improve the performance, but it might mean also adding a 45 degree piece to deal with the hose/motor conflict. if the chute was round I'd just buy a replacement chute and try to cut the original down lower, where the diameter was larger, but it looks like the chute changes shape going down. But then that's almost nothing a heat gun can't fix! lol, Anyway, great job! I haven't seen anyone do that well with that saw.
I have the 12 inch Delta Cruzer and was looking to improve the dust collection. I watched your video and thought…would that really make that much of a difference? Well, the Bosch is very similar to the Delta Cruzer, so I downloaded your template and it was a perfect fit. Now, for the compliment. I was absolutely blown away with how much of a difference it made. You are very impressive with your knowledge and I certainly do appreciate the free template. Thank you very much!
Hey Dan... I have used your idea to improve my dust collection on my Table Saw... now I will use this idea too, as I just purchased the 12".... keep the shop talk going...LOL
THANKS for getting back to me if you happen to go to a home depot that is where i brought mine, you might look at one and see if you can come up with a good idea for me. THANK YOU again, Bob!!!!
You get bigtime "Dude credit" for making that boot. Very nice...I love it ! I used that same rubber material to adapt dust collection to an R4512 table saw .
My saw is nothing like this. It's a Hitachi 10" chop saw. You did inspire me to put "walls" that go down further and come forward further around the dust collection area as well as attaching my hose more directly to the saw. It's not near as clean as yours, but better than before. Right now it's cardboard as I tweak it a bit, but I'll probably use one of those thin sheets used as cutting boards. If there was a mid-priced sliding miter saw with as good dust collection as the Kapex, I'd probably be saving my dollars for it. Can't see getting another sawdustmaker. I'm a hobbyist, so it's not in daily use. Thanks for the excellent video.
Very nice!!! I did not take time to read all of your comments but just incase someone has not mentioned it..... You could also make that boot from old tire inner tube (usually a damaged take off can be sourced free from an automotive tire center) The thicker the better will offer side support that will not collapse and you can forgo the support wire. A tractor or utility tube is best.
Made this boot this weekend. Made a pretty big difference. I was able to lift the front of the boot to get it over 2x 4 while drawing the saw back. If I don’t do that the boot hits the back side of the 2x4 and gets pulled off the saw.
I picked this saw (12 inch) up at Home Depot when they were removing from store. I purchased it for half price. I love the saw. It is extremely accurate but the sawdust extraction is not ideal. I will need to do this upgrade ASAP. I have sever allergies to saw dust but I love wood working. You have a lot of good tips on a dust free shop thanks!
Thanks for this Dan. I have had my saw for two years and quickly after purchase found this vid and did the modification. I am on my second replacement since I do a lot of work and it does not last forever. I find that the miter saw is the worst culprit for dust in my shop and this helped so much. I have my saw set down in line in the middle of a 12 ft cabinet base and use the Kreg stop rail system to measure. It is slick, but I still get some dust splatter to the back. I wish I could invent some type of shroud for the back to catch the splatter since I have plenty of vac and can use another vac line for that. Thanks again. Love your channel.
Thanks for taking the time to explain how you made your saw more efficient with dust collection. I have this model and it's connected to a shop vac for now. Will take the time to make this modification for sure !
Good Video Dan. By far the worst dust generator in my shop was my sliding compound miter saw. Loved to use it for those clean cuts. I built shrouds, improved the dust boot as you did, and gave it its own vacuum system. It all helped, buuuutttt, dust still went everywhere. When I moved, I did not replace it. After assessing my needs I figured that with a table saw and a track saw, I could make all of the same cuts I would need in the future with those two saws, using some jigs. Loved my Hitachi, wished for the 10" Bosch articulating saw, but If I buy another one. hmmmm, that Festool sure looks good.
Wow that's incredible! I'm about to film my own review of this saw so I will be sure to direct my viewers to this video if they'd like to know how to improve the dust collection.
What luck to find an easy improvement for my saw and free plan for dust scoop ! Thanks DP ! Though might be just me I hade to multiply my print ratio by 103.9% to get true measurement on my HP printer.
I agree with Dodgys that my 12" saw is a snowblower. Thanks for your info on how to help control the dust. If you cannot find rubber matting at a dollar store, try a good hardware store or auto store and buy gasket material
I made an extended rubber piece out of some shower pan rubber, it's about a 1/16 thick. I made up about 8 of them all at the same time, if one gets torn or cut, can easily change it out with a new one.
Just got mine 12 bad boy.went from a craftsman 8.25 slider.i think i got the bosch after the kinkes all fixed.Its an animal.Good luck and great show.oregon here.
Good idea and design. I just made one for my 12". I made it out of about 3mm (1/8 inch) leather instead because that's all I had. You can probably get the amount of 3mm leather you need for around $10-$15 if you decide to go through route instead of the vinyl. As a result, this made it plenty sturdy and there was no need for a metal bar which I'm not a fan of near a spinning saw blade. Instead of the neodymium magnets, I just used gorilla tape instead. Again, not a fan of metal near that saw blade. Thank you for your design and idea. It greatly improved my saw dust collection on this saw.
Dan Pattison It did. Put it through the initial tests last night and it worked well on 2" thick maple (until I get to the other side of the 9" board which then the blade just sends all the sawdust upwards, but there's really no way to resolve that since there is 8" of maple between the boot and the blade haha) Works great on stuff that's only 4-5 inches wide.
Thanks for all the replies. I've spent a good amount of time dialing the saw in and can now get accurate cuts for things like picture frames. I discovered that making sure the blue blue knob is tight before tightening the set screws ensures it doesn't move. I imagine the Forrest blade will make it even better, given the luck I've had with those blades on my table saw.
Great job. Just a little hint here. In high pressure air flow situation like vacuum or blower, the tube angle almost have no impact on the air flow. The tube angle only have noticable impact on low pressure air flow like axial fan.
Great video Dan. I appreciate you sharing it with us all. I built the dust boot today but had to modify as it appears that Bosch redesigned the plastic molded dust shields after the early versions (which is what I have). Regardless, used your concept and it should work well. Thanks again
Same here. Specifically, the snout of the plastic shroud is not long enough to allow placement of the magnets and as a result, the mouth of the collector gas open too wide. I found that a U-shaped piece of wire, similar to the wire that you fashioned for the bottom of the boot, works quite well.
Great video-- I have the same dust extraction problem and will use the pool hose method to modify the saw's dust port. I use an iVac switch system and it works great on all of my machines except for the Bosch. No longer, thanks!
nice Dan that is much better! I have the same saw it is nice stationary saw ( like you said it is too heavy to mive it) but I never been satisfied about the dust collection.
Hi Dan. Looking into a purchase for the same saw and you did great job explaining and clearly narrating the whole thing. I do have a off-subject question about plywood you are using for a test cut @ 11:49. What is that type of plywood called? It does have plasticky coating on the face/back of it. I asked at my local big-box-stores and representatives look at me like I speak klingon. Thanks in advance!
The plywood that I was using was a prefinished plywood that was left over from a job I did years ago. It actually has some wood plys and some MDF plys and then a stained and lacquered veneer on the surface. It was used for finished gables and panels on prefab cabinets.
I had a 10" Dewalt compound miter saw for around 12 years (light duty). It still works great th-cam.com/users/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe but I wanted something bigger. My only complaint about the 10" was the location of the motor, and this version fixes that issue. The XPS system works well. My only request for future versions is a dust collection port (or adapter) that fits large shop vac hoses (or standard PVC pipe fittings) a little better. But that's not a complaint, just a request.
Great video Dan, very detailed as usual. Being that Bosch builds great tools, its disappointing that haven't solved the dust collection issue like you have. They must have been so excited for the gliding feature they stopped their thinking there. I'm looking forward to replacing my current Bosch saw with this one. At least I'll know a great way to improve the dust collection. Thanks again, Steve K
+Steve, thanks. Bosch has seemed to give a bit more attention to dust collection on some of their more recent saws but the Axial Glide definitely didn't get much effort DC wise which is a bit disappointing.
Yah I wish a tool company would come along and give Festool a run for their money so they would restructure their pricing. Great products, but ouch on the pocket book.
Nice dust shoe, Dan. I'll have to give that a shot for the 12" version I've got as that certainly isn't any better than the 10" when it comes to dust collection.
Well, I tried your suggestion, only I came up with something I think was a little better I think. I took a gallon plastic milk jug and cut a 1 piece similar shape from the corner and placed it inside the dust chute. I had to play with it until I got it the shape I wanted. The plastic gives it a little stiffness to return to its original shape yet it will be flexible enough to bend. I stapled it to the dust chute. It seems to work pretty well for now. Time will tell how long it will last. Thanks for your suggestion.
This is a good way to improve dust collection on a Bosch miter saw. It did however take me two tries to get one that fit correctly. However, the second time I made a significant improvement. Instead of the wire, which is what caused problems with the first try, I cut up an old, plastic water bottle, the squeezable kind designed for bicycles. I think a 1 qt yogart container or perhaps a section from a gallon bottle would work as well. The plastic gives the whole thing a shape and is easier to tape into position. I also found I didn't need the magnets. The front wings stick out a bit but that doesn't seem to be a problem.
This is great. And I wonder if boots of different size could be made of sheet metal and attached/removed quickly with hook and loop. Or I wonder if snap buttons would work with pcs of leather. Love your design tho - it got me thinking
Boots of different sizes is a great idea with a quick change mounting system. The only problem with sheet metal though is there wouldn't be any give to it if it were to hit the fence, work piece etc. Leather could definitely work though.
First, nice video and very informative! But, at about 9:35 you mention that you will put a link to the hose on your web site and a link to the connection reducer. This may seem unimportant but I like to get the same items. The only link I saw on your web site was for the connection reducer and the rare earth magnets from Lee Valley, which by the way only take you to the Lee Valley main page and not to the items themselves. I could search for these items on the Lee Valley site or Amazon but seeing as I have the same saw I would like to get the same exact products you used. Would it be possible to get direct links to the hose and reducer you used in the video? Thanks
Thanks! The link for the hose that I used is an Amazon link with a picture of the hose. If the Amazon links aren't showing up for you, try a different browser as sometimes certain browsers don't display the Amazon link boxes properly. Thanks for letting me know about the Lee Valley links. I think it must have been because Lee Valley revamped their website that the links didn't work. I just redid those links for the reducer and magnets to link to their new pages so those should work for you now. Let me know if you have any other issues.
Holy crud I about lost my mind when you finally ran it and saw how little dust was left. Seriously mine makes me feel like I'm sawing in a blizzard when I'm done; will definitely be using your advice! If you are still checking these comments; can you talk about what blade you chose and why? I've typically gotten freud blades; but I see the Wood Whisperer went with Forrest on his and I didn't recognize yours. What was it? Why did you choose it? Thanks again for a perfect vid for us Bosch Axial Glide owners!
Glad you found the video helpful. The blade I use is an 80 tooth Bosch Daredevil blade. I got it for free and it's a decent blade but nothing special. Freud or Forrest blades are definitely better. I use Freud on my smaller miter saw and have a Forrest for my table saw and like them.
The pool hose is a great idea for the shop - they are usually made to take a beating on rough concrete pool decks so the shop environment should be fine!!
Great video, very informative. I am very interested in buying the Bosch saw despite the high price. I am very interested to know, what is the distance from the face of the stock fence to the back of the saw?
+Philip Ruhland the hard plastic dust shoot that I attached my custom boot to was what came on the saw. I just removed the 90 deg elbow and the standard dust boot.
Dan Pattison okay then.Thank you for the replies and help with my question:).I appreciate you taking the time to help me with this issue Dan:).Keep up the great work now then Dan:).
Dan Pattison okay then.Thank you for the replies and help with my question:).I appreciate you taking the time to help me with this issue Dan:).Keep up the great work Dan.
What is the actual I.D. for your bosch dust port without the 90 degree elbow. I have the same saw but 12", I assume the dust fittings are the same for the 10" and 12". Correct me if I'm wrong. Great job, I'm about to start on mine soon per your video. Thanks for sharing!!!
Thanks for the video Dan. New subscriber here. I've had my eye on that Bosch for a couple of months because of the articulating glide. I figured that the dust extraction would be an issue as it is with my current one. Appreciate he instruction and I'll definitely try your fix. Thanks again.
Hey Dan, fellow Canadian here. I have loved your videos for years. Thank you for providing us with such clear and elegant solutions to problems. I was hoping you might be able to help me out with a simple issue I'm having with my Bosch 10 inch Axial Glide. The miter arm of the saw is very difficult to move. If the saw wasn't bolted down to my my miter station, moving that arm would move the entire saw. It makes it almost impossible to set certain miters. Is there an adjustment for the tension on that arm? A screw or bolt somewhere perhaps that adjusts the tension? Thank you in advance and keep up the great work.
Hey, there is an adjustment screw up on top of the arm that will adjust how much resistance there is in the movement. That should hopefully fix your issue.
Hi there, nice video!!! I have the same saw and i dont use any dust collection and i noticed that my table gets stuck and wont turn easily after a number of cuts, is this normal?? I usually blow it with the air compressor and apply some silicone spray and all's well, but should it actually be getting stuck after a few cuts? It seems really awkword for a saw of this range. Anyway, nice video!!!
Thanks. That doesn't really sound normal for the table to be binding up like that. Almost sounds like something isn't adjusted properly. Even if you aren't using dust collection it shouldn't do that.
Great vid Dan, shame some manufacturers don't take dust collection as seriously as some. Judging the responses dust collection is quite a big deal. All manufacturers should wake up to this issue and there ought to be a standard to judge them all by. Selling a perfectly good saw to replace with the likes of Kapex is a real shame and I feel sorry for you professionals. The need to look after your health and safety is paramount. Good to see you are busy, keep em coming. Regards Mike
+Mike S thanks. It is a shame that the DC wasn't taken more seriously on this saw since it's a fantastic saw in every other way. Once you experience great DC on one tool it's hard to put up with less on other tools which I'd what has prompted me to come up with all the different DC solutions that I have.
My template doesn't work on the 12" saw but a viewer sent me a modified version of my template for the 12" saw. If you email me I can send it to you. dan@danpattison.com
Great videos & I just bought the 12" Bosch. I printed the template without scaling on 3 different printers. The 9-7/8" width prints just shy of 9-1/2". Is the 9'-7/8" correct?
The 12" version was modified by a viewer so I'm not sure if it is set up the same way as far as sizing for printing but I think it has printed properly for most people from what I've heard. My only suggestion would be to play with the scaling until it prints to the proper size.
I wonder if there's a better way to reinforce the dust boot without adding the wire. I would imagine the wire is somewhat counter productive because...while it adds rigidity to prevent collapse under suction, it also prevents the dust boot from folding when cutting thicker stock.
You did a nice neat job on that scoop - mine came out rather less pretty :) Thanks for the template, nice bit of cad there! I plan to box the saw in an attempt to contain what the scoop misses, just noodling out how to pass the hose through and where to add a shroud for another 6" line from the dc. I think it's gonna have to be on the box top since that's where the drop is. Hopefully it'll pick up the majority of the fines, we'll see.
Dan, HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. I really like your approach and thoroughness. With the added depth the dust boot and while cutting thicker stock (not baseboard) such as a a 4X4 or even a 2x4 sized piece, how do you avoid the boot bending up? What's happened to me is the boot is pushed up, riding on top of the stock and sometimes, if thick enough, the stock will push the bottom of the dust boot into the blade cutting a kerf line in the boot. Would be VERY interested to hear if you have a workaround. Thank you.
I rewatched your video and do see you already addressed my question above by making the boot depth coincide to the typical stock thickness the user cuts. Got it, thanks.
Great video Dan. Much like Paul Jenkins, I'm going to be giving that a go on my 12". I think the Gorilla tape will last fine. The glue on that stuff is pretty tough. I also like your auxiliary fence idea. I may have to "borrow" it. ;) Looking forward to the next video.
I have the 12 inch version and I find the angle of the dust coming off the back of the blade depends on the the height of the blade during the cut. If you cut with the saw in the down position, as you did, the dust hits the stock boot. If you chop down on thick stock the exit angle misses the stock boot. How well does your boot work in the chopping example? Have you considered using your big dust collector for the miter saw?
+Jack Kister my custom boot actually works really well when doing chop cuts, almost better than when doing slide cuts. I meant to include a chop cut in the video but forgot. The big dust collector wouldn't be as effective if I hooked it up to the miter saw. Without getting into all the physics, when you step down a big dust collector line to a small one you kill the velocity in the larger line. You get much more effective collection if you use a vac or dust extractor with a smaller line and higher velocity air flow.
I just got the same saw from Lowes's website but the dust elbow is riveted onto the strait piece that you have the hose connected to, Dan. I tried Alan wrenches and nothing fits. I'm looking at getting the oscillating tool with metal blade to cut through those rivets. Seems like Bosch made this modification with newer models. I have the 12 inch but the serial number plate is dated Nov. 2018.
@@DPShopTalk I'll try drilling first; good idea. Saturday is the big day to make the modifications, I plan on loosing myself on a zero clearance plate and hooking up a new dust collection pool hose. I used your pattern for the dust boot, although not as neat as yours, it seems to work much better. Another interesting change is the switch lock is not on either side of the D handle. Rather, it is located underneath the handle, accessed by the thumb, and it slides to the right or left to unlock the switch. Will take some getting used to but, from, what I can tell, is the only modifications from what you have. I checked Bosch's website and it seems this new design is not shown on there site. I live in NE Pennsylvania and it took 10 days to receive it to the local store for pick up. So not sure where it came from but it is one hell of a nice saw though!
Quick Update: I just noticed something after seeing how the dust port on Dan's saw angles backwards so the pool hose rests behind the motor. The dust port on my GCM12SD angles to the left, not behind the motor and, if I took that elbow from the machine off, the hose would mount directly under the motor. It's almost as if Bosch watched this Video and said "looks like we have to modify that port so people don't Jerry rig stuff". So, when the motor is in its upright resting position there is no room for the dust hose especially when pulling the saw down to cut. It appeared to me I did not have a choice other than to leave the dust port elbow intact and on the machine. The only modification I did was cut off the two nubs that house the rivets (see my initial post above) and install the pool hose into that elbow port then secure a band clamp over the port. So far so good; the connection feels secure and I left enough slack to miter and bevel from either side. Thank you, Dan for posting this. It did inspire me to make the modifications; too bad they changed the model slightly.
That's interesting that Bosch made that modification. I do know for a fact that Bosch has watched that video so you could be right lol. I don't think that the 90 degree elbow makes a significant difference in the air flow so you should be fine leaving it as is.
Good job ! Not a lot of background useless information and right to the point. (37 years teaching physics in public school system- I recognize bul--- )
Udate. Tips and Test: Very important if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)! Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a vertical line above the saw blade. Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt. Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing . And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft. It is very important that everything is aligned. Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade. Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / HITACHI C12RSH2 / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact (This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails). If you want you can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing. Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick. To this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw. Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand (finger) on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine. Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing. Step-4. therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned vertical in line above the saw blade. Step-5. When you measure the vertical angle square (Digital level box) of you're sawblade don't forget that there is always some torsion in the aluminum housing. Conclusion: how further away the handle is from the saw blade how more chance of torsion in the aluminum housing.(don't go for that). Also with a cheap slide miter saw it is still better the handgriff a above the saw blade than on the right side. Maybe they will make it someday then we have a winne
Dan, how did you remove the 90 degree fitting from the saw itself. It seems as though it is fastened with “rivet” type fasteners which don’t seem to be able to be loosened or removed? I tried pulling up on the fitting but it didn’t come off... Thx for all you do!
I think it was just fastened with a screw on my saw. From what I've heard, Bosch has changed the dust port setup slightly on newer saws so that could be the case with yours.
Thank's Dan, I bought my 12" 2 month ago and will make the necessary modification to your plan but liked your concept and with a dust hood I shouldn't get practically no dust at all. What do you think, I also bought a Diablo Blade with a thin kerf so should I expect a lot less dust being cut and throne through the dust collection?
+Annie Gaignard a thin kerf blade definitely reduces the amount of dust made but not necessarily the amount of dust that isn't caught by the dust collection.
Dan, I have a Ridgid 12 inch miter saw and your pattern doesn’t work for me. It would be very enlightening if you could do a video showing how you developed your template. Thanks
Hi Pam, you basically just need to work with what you have on the saw. When I made my boot I just looked at what was on the saw and figured out how to best attach a custom boot using what was there to mount to. I made some prototypes first to get the shape right and then once I was happy I made my final boot that I showed in the video. A bit of creativity and trial and error is all you need.
Your shop is less dusty than my house! Not really, but I have a terrible time keeping saw dust at bay in my little basement shop. I’ve got 2 powertec dust collectors that I hook up to whichever machine I’m using but dust still flies. I got a Delta Cruzer last spring and that thing spews dust everywhere even with a dust shroud and the dust collector hooked up to a straight pipe like you show. The worst though is my DeWalt 745 table saw, any tips on keeping dust from flying out the front? .
I had great success with your mods and actually found that it got even better if I made the boot just a bit bigger. Thanks for that. I've seen really mixed reviews on this saw in terms of accuracy and repeatability. Do you have an impression on this not that you've used it for awhile?
Just bought a Forrest Chopmaster. I've had great luck with the dado set and Woodworker II on my table saw. The stock blade is not good. So I assume you had good luck with that?
Hi Dan, what proportion of the dust is collected by the dust chute? For the rest have you considered a dust collection hood? Thanks Colin in Northern Ireland
+colin farrier I would say it's probably about 90-95% of the dust that the boot gets Colin. I don't think that a dust hood behind the saw would do a lot since most of the dust that does escape tends to spray to the sides rather than behind. The dust collection efficiency seems to depend on the thickness of the material being cut too.
Hi Dan, went to your website and viewed both of the dust port sizes and am confused as to what lines to cut out for my 12" Bosch miter saw dust boot. The 12" dust boot template has hand drawn lines, are these the cut out lines for the dust boot for the 12" saw or what? Thanks, Gary
@@DPShopTalk yes. I saw a video to make one on the 12", but the CM10GD has a different blade guard. Maybe i should just buy a laser... That would be easier at least
I'll have to look up the video. I didn't know that people were making their own shadow setup. Really the only time I miss having a laser is when cutting crown.
+Lucien Lasocki oh no! Sorry I didn't get the video out sooner. I was hoping to get it out sooner but I've been super busy with jobs lately. How do you like the Kapex do far?
Jeff, I like the Bosch better than the 12" Makita slider that I used to have. The Bosch is smoother with the axial glide arm and I find the bevel adjustments are more convenient with them being up front rather than in the back.
Dan Pattison I agree. I stole a Makita for 350 w a Forrest Chopmaster mounted on the arbor but too much room needed. Bosch is in the near future for sure. Good ideas btw Dan!
The hose is a good idea...But I can improve on this. I'm considering this machine for diy around the house. Why didi you change the blade? The original is very good.
I made your dust boot for my Bouch saw, made it out of a corner for plastic gallon jug, worked great, but I missed what u did connecting the hose to the saw, removing 45 degree piece. I'll change that next.
I'm guessing the adaptation to the dust collecting system will also work on the 12" version of this RA saw. All the associated components (i. e. dust collecting tubing) look very similar in size with what is on the 12" saw. Is there anything I'm missing before I attempt the mod?
+Co Rin as far as I know everything should work on the 12" saw. There are a few viewers that are trying it on their 12" saw so I'm hoping to hear some feedback from them soon.
For anyone that's looking for the modified template for the 12" Axial Glide saw, I have added a download button in the blog article so you can download it directly. The modified version was submitted by a viewer that has a 12" saw and modified it to suit.
www.danpattison.com/blog/axial-glide-dust-mods
Thank you very much - 5 years later. I just picked one up this week [$250 off on sale also], and am in the process of setting it up in shop. I could use all the tips you offer as wood working is new hobby for me. I was literally inches from buying a 12" Milwaukee - primarily because it was a bigger unit at the same price, but also because I really liked that Milwaukee has the bigger square dust extraction [which i was planning to set up into a box style dust enclosure system]. Your video was very informative, clear, and direct. You have a new subscriber up here in Ontario, Canada, and I look forward to catching up on all you videos.
I just finished the dust boot on my 12 inch Bosch. I also did the zero clearance insert. I did have to modify the boot slightly but it was no big deal. I have drastically reduced the amount of dust. The insert makes quite a difference as well. I'm just using a very small shop vac and don't feel the need for anything larger. Thank you for this video. The mods are well worth while.
Glad to hear the mods worked well for you!
Just made one of these and tested it. The thing is that I missed that it is for the 10 in saw and I have a 12 in. And yet it works fabulously. I couldn't do the magnet hook up on the top as the fitting is apparently different but it still works great. the only thing that was off a bit was the hole pattern for the hooks. It didn't get every single bit but it's a huge improvement and I doubt a Kapex does any better. Thank you!
Great video production elements. Full marks. I like the wire boot support. What about a small hinged (connected to bottom run of the wire) ramp extender at the bottom allowing it to touch the table.
In an age when everything is 3d printed and plans being sold, it is really refreshing to see an effective plan available for free (made with Dollarstore materials, no less!)
Great design Dan, I downloaded the plan last year and just put it on today. I used a old windshield washer jug, and cut your pattern from that, Didnt need the piece of wire.
I don't know if you could ever get it better than that! You cleaned up a very dirty bird! About the only thing that might improve things from where you are now would be to make a buck out of wood in the shape of a mating connector of a 2" hose and put it in the hose end of the saws dust chute and use a heat gun to persuade it into the larger diameter. I believe a 2" hose from saw to vac would defiantly improve the performance, but it might mean also adding a 45 degree piece to deal with the hose/motor conflict. if the chute was round I'd just buy a replacement chute and try to cut the original down lower, where the diameter was larger, but it looks like the chute changes shape going down. But then that's almost nothing a heat gun can't fix! lol, Anyway, great job! I haven't seen anyone do that well with that saw.
a woodworker with free PDF plans. that's refreshing. thanks.
I have the 12 inch Delta Cruzer and was looking to improve the dust collection. I watched your video and thought…would that really make that much of a difference? Well, the Bosch is very similar to the Delta Cruzer, so I downloaded your template and it was a perfect fit. Now, for the compliment. I was absolutely blown away with how much of a difference it made. You are very impressive with your knowledge and I certainly do appreciate the free template. Thank you very much!
Thanks Dan!
I just bought the 12" version of that saw
I got it for $389.00... it will replace my Bosch 10" slide
Thanks for sharing these Great Ideas
+Daniel M Caprio good deal on the saw! Let me know how the mods work on the 12" version if you make them
Hey Dan... I have used your idea to improve my dust collection on my Table Saw... now I will use this idea too, as I just purchased the 12".... keep the shop talk going...LOL
THANKS for getting back to me if you happen to go to a home depot that is where i brought mine, you might look at one and see if you can come up with a good idea for me. THANK YOU again, Bob!!!!
I own a Ryobi miter saw. This should work for that. I was going to over complicate my dust collection port. This is simple and easy.
You get bigtime "Dude credit" for making that boot. Very nice...I love it ! I used that same rubber material to adapt dust collection to an R4512 table saw .
My saw is nothing like this. It's a Hitachi 10" chop saw. You did inspire me to put "walls" that go down further and come forward further around the dust collection area as well as attaching my hose more directly to the saw.
It's not near as clean as yours, but better than before. Right now it's cardboard as I tweak it a bit, but I'll probably use one of those thin sheets used as cutting boards. If there was a mid-priced sliding miter saw with as good dust collection as the Kapex, I'd probably be saving my dollars for it. Can't see getting another sawdustmaker. I'm a hobbyist, so it's not in daily use.
Thanks for the excellent video.
+K.B. Woodworker glad to hear that you got some inspiration from the video even though you have a different saw.
Great video. One issue I find with pool hose that inside is not smooth and has a spiral. The hose I tried whistled really loudly.
Very nice!!! I did not take time to read all of your comments but just incase someone has not mentioned it..... You could also make that boot from old tire inner tube (usually a damaged take off can be sourced free from an automotive tire center) The thicker the better will offer side support that will not collapse and you can forgo the support wire. A tractor or utility tube is best.
+Chad Harrison that's a great idea, thanks for the suggestion!
Made this boot this weekend. Made a pretty big difference. I was able to lift the front of the boot to get it over 2x 4 while drawing the saw back. If I don’t do that the boot hits the back side of the 2x4 and gets pulled off the saw.
Good deal, I received my Bosch 12" two days ago and it is a sawdust snowblower
same here.
I picked this saw (12 inch) up at Home Depot when they were removing from store. I purchased it for half price. I love the saw. It is extremely accurate but the sawdust extraction is not ideal. I will need to do this upgrade ASAP. I have sever allergies to saw dust but I love wood working. You have a lot of good tips on a dust free shop thanks!
Did you end up modifying your miter saw? I have a 12" as well and curious if the template works with the 12" as well as Dan's 10"
Thanks for this
Dan. I have had my saw for two years and quickly after purchase found this vid and did the modification. I am on my second replacement since I do a lot of work and it does not last forever. I find that the miter saw is the worst culprit for dust in my shop and this helped so much. I have my saw set down in line in the middle of a 12 ft cabinet base and use the Kreg stop rail system to measure. It is slick, but I still get some dust splatter to the back. I wish I could invent some type of shroud for the back to catch the splatter since I have plenty of vac and can use another vac line for that. Thanks again. Love your channel.
OK, this is the 2nd or 3rd clip on your channel that I've watched in a week. Good stuff, but too addicting!
Thanks for taking the time to explain how you made your saw more efficient with dust collection. I have this model and it's connected to a shop vac for now. Will take the time to make this modification for sure !
Good Video Dan. By far the worst dust generator in my shop was my sliding compound miter saw. Loved to use it for those clean cuts. I built shrouds, improved the dust boot as you did, and gave it its own vacuum system. It all helped, buuuutttt, dust still went everywhere. When I moved, I did not replace it. After assessing my needs I figured that with a table saw and a track saw, I could make all of the same cuts I would need in the future with those two saws, using some jigs. Loved my Hitachi, wished for the 10" Bosch articulating saw, but If I buy another one. hmmmm, that Festool sure looks good.
Thanks from Australia Dan. Will be implementing this on my Bosch saw and look forward to the next one covering your other additions.
Wow that's incredible! I'm about to film my own review of this saw so I will be sure to direct my viewers to this video if they'd like to know how to improve the dust collection.
Thanks, I appreciate that. I'll keep an eye out for your review.
What luck to find an easy improvement for my saw and free plan for dust scoop ! Thanks DP ! Though might be just me I hade to multiply my print ratio by 103.9% to get true measurement on my HP printer.
I agree with Dodgys that my 12" saw is a snowblower. Thanks for your info on how to help control the dust. If you cannot find rubber matting at a dollar store, try a good hardware store or auto store and buy gasket material
I made an extended rubber piece out of some shower pan rubber, it's about a 1/16 thick. I made up about 8 of them all at the same time, if one gets torn or cut, can easily change it out with a new one.
A little off-topic, but I really love how neat and tidy your workshop always is :p
Just got mine 12 bad boy.went from a craftsman 8.25 slider.i think i got the bosch after the kinkes all fixed.Its an animal.Good luck and great show.oregon here.
Fantastic Video! I've just bought this saw so really appreciate the time you have take to make this. Many Thanks Tom
Good idea and design.
I just made one for my 12".
I made it out of about 3mm (1/8 inch) leather instead because that's all I had. You can probably get the amount of 3mm leather you need for around $10-$15 if you decide to go through route instead of the vinyl. As a result, this made it plenty sturdy and there was no need for a metal bar which I'm not a fan of near a spinning saw blade. Instead of the neodymium magnets, I just used gorilla tape instead. Again, not a fan of metal near that saw blade.
Thank you for your design and idea. It greatly improved my saw dust collection on this saw.
Sounds like the leather worked great. I'll have to keep that in mind if I ever need to make a new one. Thanks for sharing👍
Dan Pattison It did. Put it through the initial tests last night and it worked well on 2" thick maple (until I get to the other side of the 9" board which then the blade just sends all the sawdust upwards, but there's really no way to resolve that since there is 8" of maple between the boot and the blade haha)
Works great on stuff that's only 4-5 inches wide.
Thanks for all the replies. I've spent a good amount of time dialing the saw in and can now get accurate cuts for things like picture frames. I discovered that making sure the blue blue knob is tight before tightening the set screws ensures it doesn't move. I imagine the Forrest blade will make it even better, given the luck I've had with those blades on my table saw.
Where is the blue blue knob? I want to adjust to 90 deg because the saw is not square out of factory
Great job. Just a little hint here. In high pressure air flow situation like vacuum or blower, the tube angle almost have no impact on the air flow. The tube angle only have noticable impact on low pressure air flow like axial fan.
Good to know, thanks for the info👍
Great video Dan. I appreciate you sharing it with us all. I built the dust boot today but had to modify as it appears that Bosch redesigned the plastic molded dust shields after the early versions (which is what I have). Regardless, used your concept and it should work well. Thanks again
+Jeremiah Yoder glad you found it helpful
Same here. Specifically, the snout of the plastic shroud is not long enough to allow placement of the magnets and as a result, the mouth of the collector gas open too wide. I found that a U-shaped piece of wire, similar to the wire that you fashioned for the bottom of the boot, works quite well.
Great video-- I have the same dust extraction problem and will use the pool hose method to modify the saw's dust port. I use an iVac switch system and it works great on all of my machines except for the Bosch. No longer, thanks!
nice Dan that is much better! I have the same saw it is nice stationary saw ( like you said it is too heavy to mive it) but I never been satisfied about the dust collection.
Hi Dan. Looking into a purchase for the same saw and you did great job explaining and clearly narrating the whole thing. I do have a off-subject question about plywood you are using for a test cut @ 11:49. What is that type of plywood called? It does have plasticky coating on the face/back of it. I asked at my local big-box-stores and representatives look at me like I speak klingon. Thanks in advance!
The plywood that I was using was a prefinished plywood that was left over from a job I did years ago. It actually has some wood plys and some MDF plys and then a stained and lacquered veneer on the surface. It was used for finished gables and panels on prefab cabinets.
I had a 10" Dewalt compound miter saw for around 12 years (light duty). It still works great th-cam.com/users/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe but I wanted something bigger. My only complaint about the 10" was the location of the motor, and this version fixes that issue. The XPS system works well. My only request for future versions is a dust collection port (or adapter) that fits large shop vac hoses (or standard PVC pipe fittings) a little better. But that's not a complaint, just a request.
very good video and very clear how to do. thank you
Nice job. I can image the problem with a basement shop. without a garage type door to blow dust out at end of job. Good price for the hose.
Great video Dan, very detailed as usual. Being that Bosch builds great tools, its disappointing that haven't solved the dust collection issue like you have. They must have been so excited for the gliding feature they stopped their thinking there. I'm looking forward to replacing my current Bosch saw with this one. At least I'll know a great way to improve the dust collection. Thanks again, Steve K
+Steve, thanks. Bosch has seemed to give a bit more attention to dust collection on some of their more recent saws but the Axial Glide definitely didn't get much effort DC wise which is a bit disappointing.
Yah I wish a tool company would come along and give Festool a run for their money so they would restructure their pricing. Great products, but ouch on the pocket book.
Nice dust shoe, Dan. I'll have to give that a shot for the 12" version I've got as that certainly isn't any better than the 10" when it comes to dust collection.
+Paul Jenkins let me know how it works on your 12" saw Paul
Well, I tried your suggestion, only I came up with something I think was a little better I think. I took a gallon plastic milk jug and cut a 1 piece similar shape from the corner and placed it inside the dust chute. I had to play with it until I got it the shape I wanted. The plastic gives it a little stiffness to return to its original shape yet it will be flexible enough to bend. I stapled it to the dust chute. It seems to work pretty well for now. Time will tell how long it will last. Thanks for your suggestion.
Great idea, thanks for sharing👍
This is a good way to improve dust collection on a Bosch miter saw. It did however take me two tries to get one that fit correctly. However, the second time I made a significant improvement. Instead of the wire, which is what caused problems with the first try, I cut up an old, plastic water bottle, the squeezable kind designed for bicycles. I think a 1 qt yogart container or perhaps a section from a gallon bottle would work as well. The plastic gives the whole thing a shape and is easier to tape into position. I also found I didn't need the magnets. The front wings stick out a bit but that doesn't seem to be a problem.
Thanks for sharing, the plastic sounds like a great idea 👍
Make it out of leather next time, like 3mm (1/8) and you won't need the metal wire.
This is great. And I wonder if boots of different size could be made of sheet metal and attached/removed quickly with hook and loop. Or I wonder if snap buttons would work with pcs of leather. Love your design tho - it got me thinking
Boots of different sizes is a great idea with a quick change mounting system. The only problem with sheet metal though is there wouldn't be any give to it if it were to hit the fence, work piece etc. Leather could definitely work though.
First, nice video and very informative! But, at about 9:35 you mention that you will put a link to the hose on your web site and a link to the connection reducer. This may seem unimportant but I like to get the same items. The only link I saw on your web site was for the connection reducer and the rare earth magnets from Lee Valley, which by the way only take you to the Lee Valley main page and not to the items themselves. I could search for these items on the Lee Valley site or Amazon but seeing as I have the same saw I would like to get the same exact products you used. Would it be possible to get direct links to the hose and reducer you used in the video? Thanks
Thanks! The link for the hose that I used is an Amazon link with a picture of the hose. If the Amazon links aren't showing up for you, try a different browser as sometimes certain browsers don't display the Amazon link boxes properly. Thanks for letting me know about the Lee Valley links. I think it must have been because Lee Valley revamped their website that the links didn't work. I just redid those links for the reducer and magnets to link to their new pages so those should work for you now. Let me know if you have any other issues.
It's always a pleasure to watch your problem solving skills!
Holy crud I about lost my mind when you finally ran it and saw how little dust was left. Seriously mine makes me feel like I'm sawing in a blizzard when I'm done; will definitely be using your advice!
If you are still checking these comments; can you talk about what blade you chose and why? I've typically gotten freud blades; but I see the Wood Whisperer went with Forrest on his and I didn't recognize yours. What was it? Why did you choose it?
Thanks again for a perfect vid for us Bosch Axial Glide owners!
Glad you found the video helpful. The blade I use is an 80 tooth Bosch Daredevil blade. I got it for free and it's a decent blade but nothing special. Freud or Forrest blades are definitely better. I use Freud on my smaller miter saw and have a Forrest for my table saw and like them.
The pool hose is a great idea for the shop - they are usually made to take a beating on rough concrete pool decks so the shop environment should be fine!!
awesome video dan, thanks a heap.
Great video, very informative. I am very interested in buying the Bosch saw despite the high price. I am very interested to know, what is the distance from the face of the stock fence to the back of the saw?
+Harold Aubry I'll have to measure that next time I'm in the shop and get back to you.
Hi I can't find the free dl for the dust boot. Any help would be appreciated. Just subscribed - your work is amazing!
Dan in your dust collection upgrade video.The black dust shoot that you attached your upgraded dust shoot.
+Philip Ruhland the hard plastic dust shoot that I attached my custom boot to was what came on the saw. I just removed the 90 deg elbow and the standard dust boot.
Dan Pattison okay then.Thank you for the replies and help with my question:).I appreciate you taking the time to help me with this issue Dan:).Keep up the great work now then Dan:).
Dan Pattison okay then.Thank you for the replies and help with my question:).I appreciate you taking the time to help me with this issue Dan:).Keep up the great work Dan.
This has been in my watch later folder for quite some time, finally got around to watching it, definitely gonna try some of these, good stuff!
What is the actual I.D. for your bosch dust port without the 90 degree elbow. I have the same saw but 12", I assume the dust fittings are the same for the 10" and 12". Correct me if I'm wrong. Great job, I'm about to start on mine soon per your video. Thanks for sharing!!!
I can't remember off the top of my head. I'll try and remember to check next time I'm in the shop.
The I.D. is 1-1/4" and the O.D. is 1-1/2".
Thanks for the video Dan. New subscriber here. I've had my eye on that Bosch for a couple of months because of the articulating glide. I figured that the dust extraction would be an issue as it is with my current one. Appreciate he instruction and I'll definitely try your fix. Thanks again.
Hey Dan, fellow Canadian here. I have loved your videos for years. Thank you for providing us with such clear and elegant solutions to problems. I was hoping you might be able to help me out with a simple issue I'm having with my Bosch 10 inch Axial Glide. The miter arm of the saw is very difficult to move. If the saw wasn't bolted down to my my miter station, moving that arm would move the entire saw. It makes it almost impossible to set certain miters. Is there an adjustment for the tension on that arm? A screw or bolt somewhere perhaps that adjusts the tension? Thank you in advance and keep up the great work.
Hey, there is an adjustment screw up on top of the arm that will adjust how much resistance there is in the movement. That should hopefully fix your issue.
Thank you Dan. Simple answer to a simple question. You wouldn't believe how hard it was to find an answer. You are the best!@@DPShopTalk
Hi there, nice video!!! I have the same saw and i dont use any dust collection and i noticed that my table gets stuck and wont turn easily after a number of cuts, is this normal?? I usually blow it with the air compressor and apply some silicone spray and all's well, but should it actually be getting stuck after a few cuts? It seems really awkword for a saw of this range. Anyway, nice video!!!
Thanks. That doesn't really sound normal for the table to be binding up like that. Almost sounds like something isn't adjusted properly. Even if you aren't using dust collection it shouldn't do that.
@@DPShopTalk sounds about right, maybe i'll take it apart when i have time, thx for the reply!
very fine video young man. I just bought mine and think I will try your suggestion.
Very nice design. I'm going to do this.
I feel like you got a bit of OCD. Its a good thing imo. Keep shop clean and organized as well as healthy. Keep it up
Nice mods! Thanks for sharing ideas out of the box. Just curious if the hose you're using is anti-static? Keep it up! Cheers.
Thanks. No the hose isn't anti static but I haven't had any issues with static from it either.
Great vid Dan, shame some manufacturers don't take dust collection as seriously as some. Judging the responses dust collection is quite a big deal. All manufacturers should wake up to this issue and there ought to be a standard to judge them all by. Selling a perfectly good saw to replace with the likes of Kapex is a real shame and I feel sorry for you professionals. The need to look after your health and safety is paramount. Good to see you are busy, keep em coming. Regards Mike
+Mike S thanks. It is a shame that the DC wasn't taken more seriously on this saw since it's a fantastic saw in every other way. Once you experience great DC on one tool it's hard to put up with less on other tools which I'd what has prompted me to come up with all the different DC solutions that I have.
Hello Dan! Thank you for sharing. Do you know from your fans if this template works on the 12" without additional modifications? Thanks
My template doesn't work on the 12" saw but a viewer sent me a modified version of my template for the 12" saw. If you email me I can send it to you. dan@danpattison.com
Great videos & I just bought the 12" Bosch. I printed the template without scaling on 3 different printers. The 9-7/8" width prints just shy of 9-1/2". Is the 9'-7/8" correct?
It should be printing to 9 7/8". Did you download the modified version for the 12" saw?
@@DPShopTalk Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, grabbed the 12"v. Just printed on my home printer without scaling. Still shy of 12-1/2"w. Weird.
The 12" version was modified by a viewer so I'm not sure if it is set up the same way as far as sizing for printing but I think it has printed properly for most people from what I've heard. My only suggestion would be to play with the scaling until it prints to the proper size.
So detailed and well explained. Great job sir
I wonder if there's a better way to reinforce the dust boot without adding the wire. I would imagine the wire is somewhat counter productive because...while it adds rigidity to prevent collapse under suction, it also prevents the dust boot from folding when cutting thicker stock.
I think other people have used different methods for adding rigidity. So far I haven't had any issues with the wire.
You did a nice neat job on that scoop - mine came out rather less pretty :) Thanks for the template, nice bit of cad there! I plan to box the saw in an attempt to contain what the scoop misses, just noodling out how to pass the hose through and where to add a shroud for another 6" line from the dc. I think it's gonna have to be on the box top since that's where the drop is. Hopefully it'll pick up the majority of the fines, we'll see.
Dan, HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. I really like your approach and thoroughness. With the added depth the dust boot and while cutting thicker stock (not baseboard) such as a a 4X4 or even a 2x4 sized piece, how do you avoid the boot bending up? What's happened to me is the boot is pushed up, riding on top of the stock and sometimes, if thick enough, the stock will push the bottom of the dust boot into the blade cutting a kerf line in the boot. Would be VERY interested to hear if you have a workaround. Thank you.
I rewatched your video and do see you already addressed my question above by making the boot depth coincide to the typical stock thickness the user cuts. Got it, thanks.
Wow, great work Dan, I'll give it a try.
God bless ya
Great video Dan. Much like Paul Jenkins, I'm going to be giving that a go on my 12". I think the Gorilla tape will last fine. The glue on that stuff is pretty tough. I also like your auxiliary fence idea. I may have to "borrow" it. ;) Looking forward to the next video.
+S Scott thanks, let me know how it works on your 12"
I have the 12 inch version and I find the angle of the dust coming off the back of the blade depends on the the height of the blade during the cut. If you cut with the saw in the down position, as you did, the dust hits the stock boot. If you chop down on thick stock the exit angle misses the stock boot. How well does your boot work in the chopping example? Have you considered using your big dust collector for the miter saw?
+Jack Kister my custom boot actually works really well when doing chop cuts, almost better than when doing slide cuts. I meant to include a chop cut in the video but forgot. The big dust collector wouldn't be as effective if I hooked it up to the miter saw. Without getting into all the physics, when you step down a big dust collector line to a small one you kill the velocity in the larger line. You get much more effective collection if you use a vac or dust extractor with a smaller line and higher velocity air flow.
just downloaded plans - thanks Dan most appreciated
I just got the same saw from Lowes's website but the dust elbow is riveted onto the strait piece that you have the hose connected to, Dan. I tried Alan wrenches and nothing fits. I'm looking at getting the oscillating tool with metal blade to cut through those rivets. Seems like Bosch made this modification with newer models. I have the 12 inch but the serial number plate is dated Nov. 2018.
That's strange, I've never heard of the elbow being fastened in place like that before. Is it possible to drill them out or is there access for that?
@@DPShopTalk I'll try drilling first; good idea. Saturday is the big day to make the modifications, I plan on loosing myself on a zero clearance plate and hooking up a new dust collection pool hose. I used your pattern for the dust boot, although not as neat as yours, it seems to work much better. Another interesting change is the switch lock is not on either side of the D handle. Rather, it is located underneath the handle, accessed by the thumb, and it slides to the right or left to unlock the switch. Will take some getting used to but, from, what I can tell, is the only modifications from what you have. I checked Bosch's website and it seems this new design is not shown on there site. I live in NE Pennsylvania and it took 10 days to receive it to the local store for pick up. So not sure where it came from but it is one hell of a nice saw though!
Quick Update: I just noticed something after seeing how the dust port on Dan's saw angles backwards so the pool hose rests behind the motor. The dust port on my GCM12SD angles to the left, not behind the motor and, if I took that elbow from the machine off, the hose would mount directly under the motor. It's almost as if Bosch watched this Video and said "looks like we have to modify that port so people don't Jerry rig stuff". So, when the motor is in its upright resting position there is no room for the dust hose especially when pulling the saw down to cut. It appeared to me I did not have a choice other than to leave the dust port elbow intact and on the machine. The only modification I did was cut off the two nubs that house the rivets (see my initial post above) and install the pool hose into that elbow port then secure a band clamp over the port. So far so good; the connection feels secure and I left enough slack to miter and bevel from either side. Thank you, Dan for posting this. It did inspire me to make the modifications; too bad they changed the model slightly.
That's interesting that Bosch made that modification. I do know for a fact that Bosch has watched that video so you could be right lol. I don't think that the 90 degree elbow makes a significant difference in the air flow so you should be fine leaving it as is.
Good job ! Not a lot of background useless information and right to the point. (37 years teaching physics in public school system- I recognize bul--- )
Nice job, I'll give it a try!
Good stuff Dan! Thanks for the vid.
Udate. Tips and Test:
Very important if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)!
Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a vertical line above the saw blade.
Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt.
Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing .
And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft.
It is very important that everything is aligned.
Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade.
Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / HITACHI C12RSH2 / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact
(This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails).
If you want you can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing.
Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick. To this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw.
Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand (finger) on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine.
Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing.
Step-4. therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned vertical in line above the saw blade.
Step-5. When you measure the vertical angle square (Digital level box) of you're sawblade don't forget that there is always some torsion in the aluminum housing.
Conclusion: how further away the handle is from the saw blade how more chance of torsion in the aluminum housing.(don't go for that).
Also with a cheap slide miter saw it is still better the handgriff a above the saw blade than on the right side. Maybe they will make it someday then we have a winne
Dan, how did you remove the 90 degree fitting from the saw itself. It seems as though it is fastened with “rivet” type fasteners which don’t seem to be able to be loosened or removed? I tried pulling up on the fitting but it didn’t come off... Thx for all you do!
I think it was just fastened with a screw on my saw. From what I've heard, Bosch has changed the dust port setup slightly on newer saws so that could be the case with yours.
Perfect! Appreciate the info Dan.
What is the maximum height of the baguette molding can be sawed on this saw?
Thank's Dan, I bought my 12" 2 month ago and will make the necessary modification to your plan but liked your concept and with a dust hood I shouldn't get practically no dust at all. What do you think, I also bought a Diablo Blade with a thin kerf so should I expect a lot less dust being cut and throne through the dust collection?
+Annie Gaignard a thin kerf blade definitely reduces the amount of dust made but not necessarily the amount of dust that isn't caught by the dust collection.
Dan,
I have a Ridgid 12 inch miter saw and your pattern doesn’t work for me. It would be very enlightening if you could do a video showing how you developed your template.
Thanks
Hi Pam, you basically just need to work with what you have on the saw. When I made my boot I just looked at what was on the saw and figured out how to best attach a custom boot using what was there to mount to. I made some prototypes first to get the shape right and then once I was happy I made my final boot that I showed in the video. A bit of creativity and trial and error is all you need.
Your shop is less dusty than my house! Not really, but I have a terrible time keeping saw dust at bay in my little basement shop. I’ve got 2 powertec dust collectors that I hook up to whichever machine I’m using but dust still flies. I got a Delta Cruzer last spring and that thing spews dust everywhere even with a dust shroud and the dust collector hooked up to a straight pipe like you show. The worst though is my DeWalt 745 table saw, any tips on keeping dust from flying out the front? .
Have you seen my video on table saw dust collection upgrades?
I found the solution to miter saw dust collection for me is to make crosscuts on the tablesaw.
Jobsites, I work outside with powertools anyways.
I had great success with your mods and actually found that it got even better if I made the boot just a bit bigger. Thanks for that. I've seen really mixed reviews on this saw in terms of accuracy and repeatability. Do you have an impression on this not that you've used it for awhile?
+Ken Nel I haven't come across any accuracy issues so far in my use.
I have the 12 inch version and I know others that have it as well. I can tell you it is dead on accurate right out of the box.
Apparently, the stock blade is thin and flexes a lot, which would lead to inaccuracies
Ah, I actually never used the stock blade and went right to the Forest.
Just bought a Forrest Chopmaster. I've had great luck with the dado set and Woodworker II on my table saw. The stock blade is not good. So I assume you had good luck with that?
Hi Dan, what proportion of the dust is collected by the dust chute? For the rest have you considered a dust collection hood? Thanks Colin in Northern Ireland
+colin farrier I would say it's probably about 90-95% of the dust that the boot gets Colin. I don't think that a dust hood behind the saw would do a lot since most of the dust that does escape tends to spray to the sides rather than behind. The dust collection efficiency seems to depend on the thickness of the material being cut too.
Hi Dan, went to your website and viewed both of the dust port sizes and am confused as to what lines to cut out for my 12" Bosch miter saw dust boot. The 12" dust boot template has hand drawn lines, are these the cut out lines for the dust boot for the 12" saw or what? Thanks,
Gary
Hi Gary, yes the hand drawn line is the one to cut to for the 12" saw. A viewer sent me that modified plan based on his 12" saw.
Another good tip Dan. Thanks!
It's people like you who give people like me one less thing to think about. Brilliant!
Now I can ste.... Borrow this design for myself.
Can you make a video on how to add a shadow line to the CM10GD now?
You mean a blade shadow for the cut line?
@@DPShopTalk yes. I saw a video to make one on the 12", but the CM10GD has a different blade guard. Maybe i should just buy a laser... That would be easier at least
I'll have to look up the video. I didn't know that people were making their own shadow setup. Really the only time I miss having a laser is when cutting crown.
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If only this video had come a day sooner. I just sold my Bosch Glide saw and purchased a Festool Kapex solely for the dust collection. 😬
+Lucien Lasocki oh no! Sorry I didn't get the video out sooner. I was hoping to get it out sooner but I've been super busy with jobs lately. How do you like the Kapex do far?
Dan Pattison I actually haven't used it yet. I'll let you know when I do though.
Nicely done Dan!
Good info Dan, how do you like the Boschh saw, compared to a Makita 12 slide. Thx again
Jeff, I like the Bosch better than the 12" Makita slider that I used to have. The Bosch is smoother with the axial glide arm and I find the bevel adjustments are more convenient with them being up front rather than in the back.
Dan Pattison I agree. I stole a Makita for 350 w a Forrest Chopmaster mounted on the arbor but too much room needed. Bosch is in the near future for sure. Good ideas btw Dan!
The hose is a good idea...But I can improve on this. I'm considering this machine for diy around the house. Why didi you change the blade? The original is very good.
The stock blade is ok for rougher work but not for finish work. I use the stock blade if I'm cutting framing lumber.
I made your dust boot for my Bouch saw, made it out of a corner for plastic gallon jug, worked great, but I missed what u did connecting the hose to the saw, removing 45 degree piece. I'll change that next.
I'm guessing the adaptation to the dust collecting system will also work on the 12" version of this RA saw. All the associated components (i. e. dust collecting tubing) look very similar in size with what is on the 12" saw. Is there anything I'm missing before I attempt the mod?
+Co Rin as far as I know everything should work on the 12" saw. There are a few viewers that are trying it on their 12" saw so I'm hoping to hear some feedback from them soon.