Miter Saw Dust Collection - New Custom Fence
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2019
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Miter Saw Dust Collection - New Custom Fence
My Buddy Drew, over at Fisher’s Shop, recently did a video about a dust collection adapter that he made for his new miter saw. I decided to try my hand at solving the age old riddle - how do you make the best dust collection for a miter saw?
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I had a 10" Dewalt compound miter saw for around 12 years (light duty). It still works great th-cam.com/users/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe but I wanted something bigger. My only complaint about the 10" was the location of the motor, and this version fixes that issue. The XPS system works well. My only request for future versions is a dust collection port (or adapter) that fits large shop vac hoses (or standard PVC pipe fittings) a little better. But that's not a complaint, just a request.
Why not just make the center piece an interchangeable piece? Make multiples that are either made to be changed out for different angles or different bevel cuts?
The new Makita dust collection that moves with the saw on compound miter saw is best I have seen.
So true. But this guy is American, they like to invite things that don’t need inventing.
Very innovative and a great answer to my shroud's limitation! Nice work, Mark!!
Thanks Drew!
indeed
Has Frank Howarth seen this yet? Great work both of you!
And he didn't even have to steal any plywood from his neighbor. ;-)
Drew and Mark, y'all have got to bring this to market. Both of you should patent this thing because the need for intelligent dust collection for chop saws is HUGE! F
Drew, when I saw yours I was thinking I have to make one of those but just don't have the time. Mark, more seeing how yours can combine with Drew's, there's just too big of a need for this. I've installed floors on 2 sorry houses and have such a terrible time with dust from laminate flooring I increased my butt muscles to disproportionate sizes going up and down the stairs 10 billion times. With a fence/dust collector like this I can cut inside and save my backside and hamstrings with increased productivity. I know it sounds lazy but time is money. Plus, with Mark's idea of slivers of pieces y'all can make it modular for nesting 6" crown with combined mitered and beveled cuts. Slide one out, slide the other in to fit different cutting purposes.
Great job, love to see the thought process be expanded upon from someone else. Keep the good work and craftsmanship.
Very smart idea. I’ve been looking forward to seeing this since hearing about it on the podcast. The finish turned out sweet.
-Ben
Thanks Ben!
Simon Pegg does extremely intricate woodworking and machine modifications! That's something I wasn't expecting to see this morning
Really cool. Nice work, will wait to see how well it works for you. But looks to be a great solution to a dusty problem.
Looks sharp sir. Adding dust collection to my miter saw is on the todo list for sure.
Your design is definitely innovative. You put a ton of thought into it, and I like how you were very detailed with your explanation of the different pieces and really making this overall project not seem so overwhelming. I also like how you have a stop block system that works for really short cuts, that isn't something you see on other saws without a dedicated spacer block to the miter saw station fence. Great job, and the color matching makes it look like a factory upgrade!
what a nice paint job! wow that makes it so much more awesome
great to see thinking on your feet with the spline, when your hard planning was giving results that were not good enough. its a fun topic to be looking at, worth the effort id say
I think it's an awesome idea. Definitely had your thinking cap on for that one. Well done
Thanks Randy!
I love your thought process here Mark, and the design looks really good. I think you have a winner here. I did see Frank Howarth's video as well and his dust collection is a great functioning solution.
Thanks for sharing my friend.
Thanks for the kind words Felix! I thought about keeping this a secret while I tried to perfect it, but that's just not my style. I'm hoping somebody can take this idea and help me improve it.
You might want to reach out to Frank Howarth and see if he responds. I think it came out great.
I think it has huge potential!! It’s amazing!
I am no Nostradamus but I see a manufacturer contacting you about using your design. I think what you made is brilliant.
Well thanks Tom, let's hope they do!
And it's "first to file" now in the US. Publishing on TH-cam severely limits your ability to patent but someone like FastCap would probably jump all over this with a licensing agreement.
I definitely believe it has a lot of good potential! Keep on with the improvements that you have whirling around from this build (at least that is what it looked like to me). Let those creative wheels keep rolling and see where they will take you. You are inspiring others to also take up the challenge to create a better fence/dust control solution for their miter saws. Thank You!
Thank you Randy, I appreciate the feedback! My goal was to put the idea out there and hope it inspires people to take the design and improve it.
Wow. Really cool project!!
Great execution of your idea! I love that you included all your creative problem solving. Great shirt selections as well!
Thanks!! I was hoping you'd notice the classy shirt.
That is quite an ingenius design. I cam imagine the thinking that went into it. Good job.
That’s a very interesting solution. It will be interesting to see how it holds up as you cut into it more.
Wow, I have watched probably a dozen different solutions being build and this is by far the most advanced and it blends in with the saw perfectly. 🚀
It's a little over the top for sure!
Awesome build! Love the creativity and problem solving.
I've been hearing about this for a while, and seeing it work and how it all came together was so cool! I think it really helped how you had each of the sections cut out and explained what they were for and why they were shaped like that. Plus, the paint really looks great! It hurt me too when you would cut into it. Great video!
I'm a man of action... slow action. Seems like I've been talking about this for months, glad I didn't build up the hype too much!
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Very smart idea! I'll wait for a review of this design after you use it a bit 😉
Crazy dust collection setup. I use a dust box. Thank you for sharing.
Sometimes I over complicate things, but its all in the name of learning! A dust box is effective and simple, this is just the opposite!
That's AWESOME!!! Way to think outside of the box.
You are some kind of genius sir!
Nice :) Looks really good, too.
Looks great and very inventive. I just upgraded a few months back to that Bosch Miter Saw and its an awesome saw.
Wicked idea, I’ll have to plan a similar build in my shop I think!
Wow! I’ve watched about a dozen of these in the past week and this is a masterpiece, sir.
I was pretty excited about taming my miter dust situation this weekend, but this video made me realize I need to take some time planning this.
Temporary solution: I’m just gonna roll my miter table outside, haha
Very cool design! Always love to see innovation like this!
If I could have a dust free shop that would be an amazing goal. This is definitely one of those tools that would be a challenge to get dust free, but you've got a really good start. I love the use of the cnc to make it happen. Cool project.
Thanks Chad! This was a fun challenge. It has some room for improvement, but it's a great feeling to get a wacky idea out of your brain and make it real!
There might be better dust collections methods out there but having a system you designed using some newer technology will most likely lead to some great projects. This is a great " lets try this" project and a definite learning piece.
Thanks Mike! That is exactly what this was in my mind - "let's try this." Most of the time when I do that, it ends up in small smoldering piles in the yard - this was a happy success!
Over 5K views on the day it is published! I love the idea. I have a 12 inch Ridgid compound miter saw. I will look into making one.
If you can adapt it to work with your Ridgid I would be really interested in hearing about it!
Outstanding! Regardless of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" that was an awesome effort and the journey inspired me and got me thinking of ... Essentially, how to think through a complex scenario like this. Well done!
Cool idea and build. Thanks for sharing. And I saw my sticker on your door👍
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Nice project. I might have to try this.
Great job this is amazing 👍
What a great idea young man
I did something nearly identical and it works amazing. I actually have small holes in the zero clearance base plate (all the way out to the miter handle) along with the back fence plate and this holds the work piece down and back against the fence when my dust collector is on and more importantly provides amazing air flow. Mine is taller goes all the up to the bottom of the saw (actually removed the black bracket), on yours there is that small pocket on either side of the blade (vertical portion) I have zero clearance on the bottom and all the way up the fence backing with a series of holes next to it. This allows zero clearance to eliminate tear out, the holes provide suction to the workpiece holding it in place, and there is essentially no dust that escapes.
Awesome, sounds like a great design!
Do you have some pictures of your setup? That sounds really intriguing.
I like it. Going to look at mine to see how I could apply this concept. Thanks
Let me know how yours works out!
wow... congartulations... great design
Great thinking in this design.
Fantastic Idea of a Dust Collector. To replace the factory parts gives up the space needed to introduce a this complete new way to collect all of the stuff you want to get rid of. As a metal worker, i would reproduce this thing in my familiar environment which is steel😎. Thanx a lot for this unusual but more than interesting way to solve a problem which most of the miter saw users have. Stay save and healthy. ✌️👏👏👏🇩🇪😎
Nice job! I like your design. Thanks for sharing.
I'm glad you like it!
Great idea. I think I'll try my hand at it, changing construction technique to using plywood to create a box, the inside acting as the airflow tube, and just drilling holes in the face to create the grid.
Awesome! you'll have to let me know how it turns out!
I don't know if either of you will read this, but I'd suggest making the center top and front out of 1/4" mdf and detachable, a sacrificial part. One of mdf's properties is that it dulls blades less than "real wood".
If I decide to make 1, that's how i will do it. A box in center with top and front as above, a 2 1/2" hole at the end of the box. The other half, an L in cross section. For my use, a tape mounted above the T track, and fence extension mountable to it, probably by french cleat with a c clamp.
That is wicked cool. Awesome design. I'm totally jealous of your cnc machine and it's a sweet touch color coordinating to your mitre saw. Definitely has potential
Absolutely brilliant design! May not be perfect, but brilliant outside the box ideas incorporated!
Very neat idea but the bread loaf fence is making me hungry :-)
Impressive work!
very well done young man,keep thinking positive,adventure is always alittle scary.you are one of our future thinkers
Amazing work
I love how you did think outside the box for a solution to this problem this mitre saw brand has man.I'd love to have you do a review on your solution to this issue with this brand of mitre saw.
Thanks Philip! I plan on just using it for a little while, that's how I will find the shortcomings in my design. Once I am happy with any improvements I'll maybe do a followup video and try some Math just like Drew did.
Totally awesome. Great work man.
Thanks Brent, glad you like it!
Great idea, great video. Maybe in 2.0v you make center part replaceable. 🤷🏽♂️ just a thought.
I really enjoyed the video and the ingenuity. I appreciate the time you took to build it and to document the process for us.
Having said that, I'll probably just wear a dust mask. Lol.
Awesome work! This system is so incredibly scalable and customizable. Subscribed!
Thanks Bobby
Nice idea and work 👍
Man, I just found your channel and I'm hooked. I sold my workshop to move, but I'm getting it back this year. There's a LOT of thought you're putting into this and that's cool. Look forward to checking out future videos. I saw the video with your wife and kids. BEAUTIFUL family man. Your kids are too cute. My son (9 years old) helps me out too.
Very cool!
A very good improvement of other ideas. And good on you for giving credit to the people who gave impetus to your idea. When I first saw ( no pun intended) the thumbnail for this video I thought you made a metal fence for the saw due to the paint color. Nicely done.
Ron
Thanks Ron, I’m glad you like it!
Love the innovative thinking. Well done. You have inspired me to try something like that now.
That's awesome. I was a bit neutral on it until you painted it, then it was "HOLY COW THIS IS GENIUS"! haha. I like overly complicated solutions, maybe I'll take a crack at a design too.
Let me know when your design is ready for unveiling, I'd love to see it.
Love it! Nice job matching the color to hide the MDF too! A skim coat of Bondo prior to paint would've further smoothed the surface and made it look like metal too. I would look o make the middle section indexed and replaceable (just like a throat plate on the table saw). I, like you, would hesitate EVERY time I had to cut a new angle and it would drive me crazy! If it was replaceable, I'd just cut it up and continue to procrastinate making a new middle section FOREVER!
I was thinking along the same line of thought as you. Right when he said there are 42 pieces I thought for sure he was going to make it modular to slide off parts for nesting 6" crown with beveled and mitered cuts.
Wauw, and no, it is not a dumb idea.
Very well thought of, but intensiv.
Thumbs up.
Willy from Belgium.
i wonder if this could be converted to a fence that could be printed
What an ingenious idea. great job.
that is awesome! great idea! good video production! thank you!!!!
great idea
Nicely done & fantastic explanations for all the thinking behind it. 👍🇦🇺
Got to say, I really like the looks.
Clever. Hard work, but I see manufacturers looking at a solution to this popular dust extraction trend. Great video 👴🏻🇦🇺
Do you have your files for the CNC available? I'm thinking about 3D printing the parts in sections to alleviate the alignment and taper issues.
I did Franks design on my Radial Arm saw and it works fantastic. I have the new Makita miter saw that needs some love in the dust collection department. This is brilliant.
Cool idea
Absolutely love the video and the music! Job well done! 👍👍👍😎🇨🇱
The idea of replacing the fence is not something I have seen before. However, I think you need to drastically simplify this. I'm don't really see the need for making it out of slices? Couldn't you just make up a box with plywood, and stick some upvc pipe down it? I also agree with another commenter, in that the centre section needs to be easily replaceable.
He probably did that in order to have a rigidly straight fence. But yeah, a replaceable center *with* a rigid fence would be ideal.
You've given me an idea regarding the PVC pipe inside a box. I'll have to put my creative juices to work.
I'm with you but, It's a great experiment. I'm glad he did it rather than me and its got me thinking about alternative ways to achieve even better performance,
@@kennorthunder2428 - don't be rude, share your homework with the rest of the class. 😏
@@semperfi5857 hehe. I've been too busy working my day job, plus, got to get some other projects done first. Sorry.
Looks great.
Nice job !!
That's a thing of beauty!
Impressive If it works for you and does the job you designed it to do it’s perfect well done Sign of a craftsman and innovator
Wow! Amazing!
The explanation of the process is invaluable. Thanks very much. Thumbs up to crush a troll.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Very cool idea
A replaceable plate that is a consumable might be a good idea to consider
Wow, very impressive!
Love it.
What a fun project.
I've got the same saw and your solution looks like a winner
Very nice!
Brilliant !!
Brilliant! I want to use this design on my RAS.
th-cam.com/video/Rwd6i3UmbMI/w-d-xo.html Enjoy!
Quality build awesome.
Great job Very ingenious answer to a problem that every brand of saw suffers from!
Very cool dude! This idea has tremendous potential!
Pure genius!
Job well done 😀
Now it makes sense! I had no idea what you were describing on the podcast, but as soon as I saw it here, it clicked. This is very neat, and you nailed that paint job!
Its a really tricky thing to try and explain without visuals! The paint job turned out so surprisingly good that it brought a tear to my eye when I finally cut through it.