Am I the only one who loves how he swooshes the cape around? He gives it life more than other things that were in the movie to the point it’s practically a character of its own.
@@nshanson7674 its a joke god and are u qualifed to say that no i was joking and he was a tormented soul yes mudered 2 people but loved christine i make fun of scary situations as its made up 😣
"No Raoul! Not like this!" - Christine. So don't kill the Phantom and don't cuff him up or something, but let him go free and Raoul and Christine goes straight into the Opera house- the Phantom's domain- to catch the Phantom. The common sense here didn't link lol.
Kitty Flare Christine's biggest character trait is her compassion, even for a rage-fueled killer like Erik. Like the previous commenter, I believe she truly loved Erik, and would have stayed with him had he not been violent - but even if she didn't, she would never let someone be killed on her watch.
This is probably the least logical story in a musical ever. Thank goodness the singing makes up for it, but there are so many numerous plot holes and spots of really questionable logic
Luckily for me my best friend is just as obsessed with this movie as me. And my whole entire family adores this movie and musical. We’ve all gone to see it twice together
Man, this scene always gets me - because how awful for Christine, that she can no longer think of her father without the Phantom trying to corrupt it, trying to insert himself and his manipulations into it. He uses the memory of her father against Christine, and just... how awful, because you know later, after it was all done, she would have to carefully set those memories aside.
Wandering child, so lost, so helpless, yearning for my guidance Angel or father? Friend or phantom? Who is it there, staring? Have you forgotten your Angel? Angel, oh, speak! What endless longings echo in this whisper! Too long you've wandered in winter, far from my fathering gaze Wildly my mind beats against you You resist Yet the (your) soul obeys Angel of Music! You denied me, turning from true beauty Angel of Music! Do not shun me! Come to your strange Angel! Angel of Music! I denied you, turning from true beauty Angel of Music! My protector! Come to me, strange Angel! I am your Angel of Music Come to me, Angel of Music
I know they had Raoul win the fight and be in a position to kill Erik and then have Christine step in to protect Erik all to prove that through it all, she still cared for Erik, but I think it would've been much more powerful (and much more compliant with Erik's character) to have Erik and Raoul's positions reversed. Have Erik win and be in a position to kill the man who he knew all along would take Christine's love from him, but have him spare Raoul for the sole reason that Christine wanted him to. He would've had every reason to kill Raoul, would've been mere inches away from doing it, but realized Christine would never forgive him if he did it and therefore let the boy live. Idk, I just think it would've been much more poignant and thought-provoking. Also Erik is supposed to be good at everything, a true unearthly genius, _especially_ in the art of fighting and killing, so it also literally just doesn't even make sense to have him lose to a boy half his age lol
That's actually kind of how the ending of the book goes. The Persian and Raoul are done for as they drown beneath the house in the lake, Christine pleads to the Phantom to spare their lives, out of his love for her and the joy that has accepted to become his wife he complies to her wishes. Then as he is weeping at the hem of Christine's dress she cries with him and lets him kiss her forehead, something no one in his life had ever done and that's how he decides to let Christine free with Raoul and even gives her the ring he bought for their wedding (Erik's and Christine's) and tells her "this is your wedding gift, for you and for him, from your poor unfortunate, Erik"😓
It's perfectly fine to root for the villain, or to like the villain more than the good guy, but those in the comments who are literally denying that Erik is the bad guy.... He literally murdered two people. The stage manager and Corlotta's lover. You don't have to like Raoul, but he is for sure a better person as he hasn't killed anybody. Also Raoul is a far better suitor for Christine considering Raoul doesn't pretend to be her father's ghost, kidnap her, or threaten to kill a person to make her his girlfriend. . Long story short, you can certainly prefer Phantom over Raoul or even root for him to beat Raoul, but saying that Erik is the better person or partner is delusional.
@@wiltblush4136 Erik kidnapped her, attacked her, pretended to be an angel sent by her father, pretended to *be* her father in order to kidnap her again and tried to force her to be with him by threatening the life of someone she loved (and no he doesn't win points just for not going through with it, simply *not* forcing someone into a relationship isn't worth a medal, especially when you were initially going to do so).
Funnier still when you consider ALW actually massively downplays the extent of the Phantom's murderous insanity in his musical versus the book. He kills a bunch more people, attempts to cook alive Raoul and the guy who raised him for trying to save Christine, and also tries to blow up/burn down the opera house while it's filled with hundreds of people. And then you get demented loons being like 'oH thE PhaNTOm IS so rOMAnTIc'
@@Blisterdude123Tbh the musical meant to be more romantic compared to the book, and honestly yeah no The Phantom is a manipulative killer, though I think people like him more, or at least I do, because in a twisted way, he did it all for her, because even in the first scene him scarring Carlotta away made a spot for Christine to shine, in his own way, he showed his love for her, and I will point out, he has a compelling backstory, being a monster to everyone since birth, he just embraces what everyone makes him out to be, he plays the part of the monster, not as his true artistic self, it’s still fucked up what he did, considering he has at least two confirmed kills, maybe perhaps a dozen from the chandelier, and terrorizing a whole Theatre, but we feel for The Phantom because many can relate of wanting to be loved, only to be turned away, and he’s even more tragic when you also consider that his mother gave him a mask as his first piece of clothing. TL:DR: He’s a incel prick, with a tragic backstory, and a very (*TWISTED*) yandere-like love for Christine, and we honestly feel for him because he had a tragic upbringing that we can relate. And also because he’s cool and angsty.
@@scotthamp384 I am not offended. I do admit that it is not needed, and that it is your opinion. I know that everyone's opinion is different. And I prefer the singing over the sword fight to be honest.
@@daynacooper1163 not even near from Sierra and Ramin 😂 there are many pairs that are way better than the movie ones, like Gina Beck and JOJ, Davis Gaines and Dale Kristien, Harriet Jones and Geronimo Rauch... and counting more
Honestly this song that they sing together is the best scene I thing in the whole movie. The way they both sing together and everything. It’s just amazing and perfect.
AngelsPirate he hasn’t had much human contact (other than letters and stalking Christine) in a long ass time, so it’s reasonable that his sword fighting skills are a bit rusty.
It would’ve been way cooler if Erik disarmed Raoul first, but then Raoul dodges the death blow and strikes Erik on his masked side, causing him to recoil and hold onto his ‘face’, giving Raoul time to retreat, lift a speechless Christine onto his horse, and narrowly escape the Phantom’s wrath.
The phantom was clearly the better sword fighter for most of the fight tho. He only lost because he wasn't stronger than Raoul. When they binded swords at the end of the fight, Raoul overpowered and disarmed him.
erik has better sword skills than raoul, he was desarmed this is completely understandable but i think he didnt want to win, 'cause in christines eyes he is an angel and, at least, in human eyes, angels dont kill
While the stage version is lot better with this scene, there is one improvement that makes it make more sense. That is the song just being between Erik and Christine. In the play, Raoul just watches the Erik hypnotize her for a while before waking her up. Here he just arrives on the nick of time before Erik's hypnosis completes
@@mieshocked1450 I think what they mean is that she's very entranced to the point where she forgets where she I'd. She's not hypnotized, just entranced
Honestly I love the sword fight it’s less ridiculous than throwing fireballs and I love watching a fight between Christines suitors, It just shows the rivalry between them.
While I think a part of the reason she tells Raoul no is because Erik still has some hold on her but I also personally think it’s she doesn’t want a murder in front of her father’s grave
Erik is saying to Raoul as they are swordfighting " is that the best you can do , i am the angel of death , come on monsieur , don't stop , don't stop , She doesn't love you , She loves me "
This is some weirdass version of the musical where Christine just wants to enjoy two men fighting for her. 🤣 Btw I have a feeling that they didn’t make her call out to the Phantom to stop because for some reason ALW hates the name Erik, and her calling him “Phantom” would sound weird.
Okay, I just noticed that Raoul smirked at Phantom. I really love this song so much. When I was a kid, I said " If you stab Phantom, I will jump through the telly and stab you". I also sad "Your lucky Roaul, your lucky I can't jump through the tv"
Megstar360 oh my sweet dear you if you love sword fighting than I implore you to watch the one in The Princess Bride. Three times as long and 10000 times better😃😃
1. ok I NEED to know how did Erik learn sword fighting XD 2. everyone keeps saying CHRISTINE SHOULD'VE GONE WITH THE PHANTOM. but I'm like okay, where? to his cave? and live as hermits that terrorize a building whenever they are feeling spicy? raise their children there, having swimming lessons in that dirty af water? like. okay, imagine Christine chooses the Phantom. what happens THEN? they sing, they go all the way, maybe Christine gets her very own Dramatic Wooshing Cape... and then what?
Lol. Fair point. Phantom didn't have a lot going for him at the time besides his voice and charisma. Financial stability and a non-basement type place to live was at the bottom of his list. 😂
plus having to put up with dead bodies all the time and wondering when the Phantom is going to get mad at her and strangle her--as opposed to marrying a nice wealthy guy who is a count and she gets to be a countess
Erik is a complete *genius;* he can fight sword (the novel doesn't say that, though), he's an architect, musician, 100% artist, and a magician. Besides that he's intense, lovable and gives his soul to EVERYTHING, including loving, protecting and raising Christine. The problem is that anybody gave him the chance of showing his genius because of his deformed face; he was abused by everyone, including his mother. Minus his "insane moment" in the ending, which was cured by Christine's kindness, he was OBVIOUSLY the best choice. And his cave isn't dirty, he was planning to buy a house for them as in the novel. Well, anyway 😂
One question. Why is this comment section (as well as all others of this movie): 45% people loving the version and the actors 45% people hating literally everything from Gerard's voice to the fight 10% people throwing random facts or comparing the musical/movie to the book And I am just confused, still trying to enjoy stuff tho
It does set up precendence for Raouls physical capacity to go and fight and survive various traps which in the musical isn't as well established but it is in the book
I sang this in Choir earlier this year and I couldn't help but thinking of Raoul and Erik sword fighting. Because there's this senior in my choir that sounds exactly like Raoul and another one sounds like Erik so during practice, we couldn't help but laugh
You were a KID, so it makes sense. Thankfully you grew up, i guess? When i was a veeeeery young child, i also rooted for Raoul, i'm very ashamed to confess that. Today i'm free and i know that Erik is better.
Raoul ruins everything. Christine walk faster to your fathers grave before Raoul comes. I love how Raoul falls after jumping and the Phantom lands perfectly on the ground.
He escaped scot free after a bunch of murders and psychotic stalking and terrorising an opera house, I'd say he got more than a semi-good ending all things considered.
Semi good ending: 2 weeks with Erik, 2 with Raoul. Like in Muslim families when a man has more than 1 wife, and shares his time equally, LOL. Why we, women can't do that??
People who watch this movie and think Raoul is the hero are insane to me. It's called The Phantom of the Opera. It's not called Fairweather boyfriends who hang out with you once your old boyfriend helped you get famous.
This version of wandering child will always be better than the 25th anniversary one. Adding Raoul in just made no sense and it didn’t sound good at all, it sounded so messed up, I couldn’t tell what was being sung, the only good bit was Ramin coming through at the end with that low note. In this you can actually hear what they are saying and it focuses on Erik and Christine
Does anybody notice how the color of their clothing represent good and evil like Luke vs Darth Vader ? Or perhaps freedom and open vs strict and closed ?
+Emii64 True, but he shouldn't have been chosen for the role if he had never had singing lessons. POTO is a musical that can't afford mediocrity. Gerard was chosen for sex appeal, not singing talent. Sure, he can carry a tune, but you have to be able to do more than that if you're playing the title role of this musical.
Christine decides that taking this guy to the police wouldn't be nice so she lets him go. Pretty much a few scenes later he kills like fifty people by dropping the chandelier. Those deaths are all on Christine.
I can't hold this scene of the musical, i found it kinda nonsense because Leroux Erik would never pretend being her *father* (the angel, yes, but father? Nope). But, i understand what both Christine and Erik feel on this scene, and i hope some annoying brainless people can understand that Erik is not "perverse", evil or anything like this. Christine lost her father, she is sad because of it. She is alone. Erik loves her more than anything on his life, and no, it is not "obsession" or false love, use your brain a little and try to understand the message of the Final Lair and how much noble Erik always was. Erik pretended to be her angel of music because he was afraid of showing himself as a normal man, he was abused and shunned for years and he just... doesn't feel worthy anymore. Only at "The Final Lair" is that he understand how much human he was and let her go because he loved her more than anyone did. Anyway, he wanted to protect Christine. He HATED to see her sad, defenseless, lonely... he saw himself on her. Being her "angel" would protect her, but once he falls in love with her and shows himself as a mortal human (and the feared The Phantom of The Opera), Christine started to feel uncorfutable at his side. It is not her or his fault, she was only scared. Erik thought "so, not being her angel but a man scares her? So i'll be a pathernal figure". The musical is veeeeery poetic and romantic, so no, i do NOT believe he was literally pretending to be Christine's father, he tried to be some kind of pathernal figure to make her happier, and then he could marry her. He had a horrible life and his father didn't love him, it is not his fault that he doesn't know how to deal with emontions. If you blame him for this, you're a jerk. The same way Christine was scared and sad missing her daddy, Erik was abused all of his life and he couldn't adapt 100% to a normal life. Both did wrong things based on what they lived, if you blame Erik and defend 10000% Christine... hipocrisy, is that the name?
Right, and let's not forget that in a good long term relationship we're not only the romantic lovers of our spouses, but their best friends, even each-other's mother/father sometimes, giving comfort, solace, support each-other's career, etc.
For anyone who thinks Erik would not have lost this fight, I fully see where you're coming from but A. Erik probably hasn't fought against another person in awhile and B. He had Raoul on the ropes for pretty much the whole fight. Raoul literally just get lucky with being strong enough to disarm him.
Here’s the thing though…Erik would NEVER put himself into a position to lose to Raoul, NEVER, he is way too smart for that. Erik uses his brain to gain the advantage not his muscles, hence him fooling everyone into thinking he’s an actual Ghost…he is a master magician, and a genius. And second a sword fight is frankly too ‘normal’ for him, this Man is the very definition of THEATRICAL, and a physical fight is how normal guys deal with their differences, Erik is not a normal guy, he wouldn’t even bother with that crap. Erik would either have Raoul at the end of his noose in the blink of an eye like in the final lair, of he’d make a big show of trying to intimidate him with something dramatic, like the fireballs in the Stage Show. I feel Schumacher wanted the sword fight more for Raoul’s sake, to make him into more of a Romantic Hero, but it completely undermined Eriks character in my opinion.
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I GET CHILLS 1000000 TIMES WHEN HE SAYS "have you forgotten your angel" and when he raises his voice 😭😭😍😍😍😍
korinakokk Same!
My favorite part too! Something like "have you forget of you aaaaaaangel"
Me too! :)
Same here
Am I the only one who loves how he swooshes the cape around? He gives it life more than other things that were in the movie to the point it’s practically a character of its own.
That’s exactly what I thought when I first saw this movie. He’s so natural with it it’s like part of him
I think Wandering Child is the most underrated songs in Phantom of the Opera. Especially this version. It's mesmerizing!
Same!!!
@@isabellamoya3934 I just feel it in side effects from delivery to Derek Llewellyn feel like you see what happens
Can you imagine what great musical he had prepared that would have happened if she entered?
MikeAlexBillsZ omg i need to see that 💖💖💖
the play is great without her entering
FireSniper4261 01 he eat her no jok ing thats predator 😉
@@amyclarke41 ?????
@@nshanson7674 its a joke god and are u qualifed to say that no i was joking and he was a tormented soul yes mudered 2 people but loved christine i make fun of scary situations as its made up 😣
"I just wanted to be your angel of music. 'Love me,' that's all I asked of you." This Opera in any version just always breaks my heart :(
Me too best movie ever
"No Raoul! Not like this!" - Christine.
So don't kill the Phantom and don't cuff him up or something, but let him go free and Raoul and Christine goes straight into the Opera house- the Phantom's domain- to catch the Phantom. The common sense here didn't link lol.
Kitty Flare they mainly let him go a now heis going to fight them both
Kitty Flare I always thought Christine said that because she was in love with the phantom and didn't want to see him hurt
Kitty Flare Christine's biggest character trait is her compassion, even for a rage-fueled killer like Erik. Like the previous commenter, I believe she truly loved Erik, and would have stayed with him had he not been violent - but even if she didn't, she would never let someone be killed on her watch.
I think this was added as I though the Phantom won the fight in the play
This is probably the least logical story in a musical ever. Thank goodness the singing makes up for it, but there are so many numerous plot holes and spots of really questionable logic
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Raoul stepped on someone's graves to climb to horse. lol
Oh, how merciless are you, Raoul, to the dead?!
He didn't bring honor to us all.
addison smith dishonor on him! Dishonor on his cow! Dishonor on his whole family!
This is actually a pretty good sword fight. The men are 100% locked in battle, using their instruments to kill, unlike most Hollywood sword fights.
I love all of you guys, nobody in my life will watch this movie with me.
Same 😔😔
Same.
SAME, and I love you back!
Luckily for me my best friend is just as obsessed with this movie as me. And my whole entire family adores this movie and musical. We’ve all gone to see it twice together
Same! They just hate opera and won’t even give it a chance!
Dude this is like the first in years that the phantoms been outside except for like the rooftop scene but yep that's about it lol 😂
That's just what I thought
Then how he knows the direction to cemetery?
@@ValenTee he probably followed Christine there, wouldn't exactly be out of character for him.
I’m sure he was out at night time and when it was dark outside because he knows where everything is at
Funniest thing is that he is the only one dressed correctly for the weather.
Man, this scene always gets me - because how awful for Christine, that she can no longer think of her father without the Phantom trying to corrupt it, trying to insert himself and his manipulations into it. He uses the memory of her father against Christine, and just... how awful, because you know later, after it was all done, she would have to carefully set those memories aside.
This is so far the most accurate duel I’ve ever seen. Proper utilisation of the environment itself is hard for a mere learner of the way of the blade.
Wandering child, so lost, so helpless, yearning for my guidance
Angel or father? Friend or phantom? Who is it there, staring?
Have you forgotten your Angel?
Angel, oh, speak! What endless longings echo in this whisper!
Too long you've wandered in winter, far from my fathering gaze
Wildly my mind beats against you
You resist
Yet the (your) soul obeys
Angel of Music! You denied me, turning from true beauty
Angel of Music! Do not shun me! Come to your strange Angel!
Angel of Music! I denied you, turning from true beauty
Angel of Music! My protector! Come to me, strange Angel!
I am your Angel of Music
Come to me, Angel of Music
Christine is lucky, she had two men fighting over her and then there is me, hoping someone breathe in my direction
Same.
You'd feel different about that wish now
That's exactly one of the things Erik would say....
Wait, are u Erik? Erik is real, oh my god
She had 2 boyfriends at the same time
Yeah, I've been there.
Christine
Why?
Walk faster girl!
Get in!
Lmao
I feel like the only reason Gerard took the role is because they promised him a sword fight
Ha
He still did a great job
@@dseray9494 he did an amazing job, i really loved this version!
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対決よりも平和になったら嬉しいのに
I know they had Raoul win the fight and be in a position to kill Erik and then have Christine step in to protect Erik all to prove that through it all, she still cared for Erik, but I think it would've been much more powerful (and much more compliant with Erik's character) to have Erik and Raoul's positions reversed. Have Erik win and be in a position to kill the man who he knew all along would take Christine's love from him, but have him spare Raoul for the sole reason that Christine wanted him to. He would've had every reason to kill Raoul, would've been mere inches away from doing it, but realized Christine would never forgive him if he did it and therefore let the boy live. Idk, I just think it would've been much more poignant and thought-provoking. Also Erik is supposed to be good at everything, a true unearthly genius, _especially_ in the art of fighting and killing, so it also literally just doesn't even make sense to have him lose to a boy half his age lol
Okay but he was in that basement for like ten years so I think it's logical his skills are a tiny bit rusty
That's actually kind of how the ending of the book goes. The Persian and Raoul are done for as they drown beneath the house in the lake, Christine pleads to the Phantom to spare their lives, out of his love for her and the joy that has accepted to become his wife he complies to her wishes. Then as he is weeping at the hem of Christine's dress she cries with him and lets him kiss her forehead, something no one in his life had ever done and that's how he decides to let Christine free with Raoul and even gives her the ring he bought for their wedding (Erik's and Christine's) and tells her "this is your wedding gift, for you and for him, from your poor unfortunate, Erik"😓
I agree, however in this scenario and considering how the Phantom was, He probably would have killed Raoul regardless of what Christine said.
That’s the whole point of the ending of this film, though... :D Wouldn’t wanna spoil the twist ending, would yah?
Experience sometimes fails one of old age, as youth is still faster and much livelier than those older.
Can we talk about how Christine could’ve sang “fight for me” from heathers while they were sword fighting.
Witchy Woman YASSSS!!!!!!!!!! OMG I LOVE YOU!
Hahahahah
This is the best comment ever
Except "Fight for me" from Heathers is from 2014 while this movie is from 2004
Xeno ArtsyFurry lol you’re right, i just meant it as a joke, also forgot i ever commented this
It's perfectly fine to root for the villain, or to like the villain more than the good guy, but those in the comments who are literally denying that Erik is the bad guy.... He literally murdered two people. The stage manager and Corlotta's lover. You don't have to like Raoul, but he is for sure a better person as he hasn't killed anybody. Also Raoul is a far better suitor for Christine considering Raoul doesn't pretend to be her father's ghost, kidnap her, or threaten to kill a person to make her his girlfriend.
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Long story short, you can certainly prefer Phantom over Raoul or even root for him to beat Raoul, but saying that Erik is the better person or partner is delusional.
THANK YOU! I’ve been waiting for someone to say this!
@@wiltblush4136 Erik kidnapped her, attacked her, pretended to be an angel sent by her father, pretended to *be* her father in order to kidnap her again and tried to force her to be with him by threatening the life of someone she loved (and no he doesn't win points just for not going through with it, simply *not* forcing someone into a relationship isn't worth a medal, especially when you were initially going to do so).
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Funnier still when you consider ALW actually massively downplays the extent of the Phantom's murderous insanity in his musical versus the book. He kills a bunch more people, attempts to cook alive Raoul and the guy who raised him for trying to save Christine, and also tries to blow up/burn down the opera house while it's filled with hundreds of people.
And then you get demented loons being like 'oH thE PhaNTOm IS so rOMAnTIc'
@@Blisterdude123Tbh the musical meant to be more romantic compared to the book, and honestly yeah no The Phantom is a manipulative killer, though I think people like him more, or at least I do, because in a twisted way, he did it all for her, because even in the first scene him scarring Carlotta away made a spot for Christine to shine, in his own way, he showed his love for her, and I will point out, he has a compelling backstory, being a monster to everyone since birth, he just embraces what everyone makes him out to be, he plays the part of the monster, not as his true artistic self, it’s still fucked up what he did, considering he has at least two confirmed kills, maybe perhaps a dozen from the chandelier, and terrorizing a whole Theatre, but we feel for The Phantom because many can relate of wanting to be loved, only to be turned away, and he’s even more tragic when you also consider that his mother gave him a mask as his first piece of clothing.
TL:DR: He’s a incel prick, with a tragic backstory, and a very (*TWISTED*) yandere-like love for Christine, and we honestly feel for him because he had a tragic upbringing that we can relate. And also because he’s cool and angsty.
My absolute favorite cast of Phantom of the Opera!❤️
Me the best ever
I love how Gerry sings "Come to your strange angel"
Me too! I only watch this video for Gerard's and Emmy's duet, and the sword fight.
@@idontknowanymore5065 no offense, but I think the sword fight is kinda stupid
@@scotthamp384 I am not offended. I do admit that it is not needed, and that it is your opinion. I know that everyone's opinion is different. And I prefer the singing over the sword fight to be honest.
@@idontknowanymore5065 same
Gerrard and Emmy were the BEST Phantom and Christine
Yeah they way better than Ramin and Sierra that is for sure
@@daynacooper1163 not even near from Sierra and Ramin 😂 there are many pairs that are way better than the movie ones, like Gina Beck and JOJ, Davis Gaines and Dale Kristien, Harriet Jones and Geronimo Rauch... and counting more
Honestly this song that they sing together is the best scene I thing in the whole movie. The way they both sing together and everything. It’s just amazing and perfect.
Even though I'm a little disappointed in the Phantom's sword fight skills, I really like this small add to the story.
AngelsPirate he hasn’t had much human contact (other than letters and stalking Christine) in a long ass time, so it’s reasonable that his sword fighting skills are a bit rusty.
I thought his skills were amazing he cut Raoul's arm raoul never touched Erik the reason he won was because Erik tripped which is understandable
It would’ve been way cooler if Erik disarmed Raoul first, but then Raoul dodges the death blow and strikes Erik on his masked side, causing him to recoil and hold onto his ‘face’, giving Raoul time to retreat, lift a speechless Christine onto his horse, and narrowly escape the Phantom’s wrath.
The phantom was clearly the better sword fighter for most of the fight tho. He only lost because he wasn't stronger than Raoul. When they binded swords at the end of the fight, Raoul overpowered and disarmed him.
erik has better sword skills than raoul, he was desarmed this is completely understandable but i think he didnt want to win, 'cause in christines eyes he is an angel and, at least, in human eyes, angels dont kill
Gerard's face at 2:21 for some reason I love it
Same.
Yea hes super hot
He’s super handsome and Hot.
While the stage version is lot better with this scene, there is one improvement that makes it make more sense.
That is the song just being between Erik and Christine. In the play, Raoul just watches the Erik hypnotize her for a while before waking her up. Here he just arrives on the nick of time before Erik's hypnosis completes
By Jesus Christ, there is *NO* hypnosis here, Erik NEVER hypnotized her. What the hell is wrong with people????
@@mieshocked1450 I think what they mean is that she's very entranced to the point where she forgets where she I'd. She's not hypnotized, just entranced
@@briannahendrickson7746 hm. ok
My all time favorite Phantom
Honestly I love the sword fight it’s less ridiculous than throwing fireballs and I love watching a fight between Christines suitors, It just shows the rivalry between them.
While I think a part of the reason she tells Raoul no is because Erik still has some hold on her but I also personally think it’s she doesn’t want a murder in front of her father’s grave
It's because she cares for Erik and doesn't want to see her dumb and worthless boyfriend kill the man who took care of her for years.
Erik is saying to Raoul as they are swordfighting " is that the best you can do , i am the angel of death , come on monsieur , don't stop , don't stop , She doesn't love you , She loves me "
“Is that the best you can do? Come on, monsieur, don’t stop, don’t stop” the way this sounds out of context
I just sit there while Christine just watches and doesn’t say PHATOM NO! Or RAOUL NO! It’s weird.
@@julesbrags1661 *gasp* I never noticed that! Thank you!
Well, in most versions, Christine isn't exactly the brightest bulb in the box
This is some weirdass version of the musical where Christine just wants to enjoy two men fighting for her. 🤣
Btw I have a feeling that they didn’t make her call out to the Phantom to stop because for some reason ALW hates the name Erik, and her calling him “Phantom” would sound weird.
@@The-Musical-Lover Which version is that?
love the goofy swoosh sound effect when he pulls the sword out.
Wandering child expresses the problems facing orphans and homeless sung by Anne Hathaway is a wonderful harmonious melodic performance
Phantom: comes back 2 years later with an army of Spartans
Raoul: profuse sweating
the Phantom sing so well
I remembered watching this movie in my English class in 7th grade. It's been so long oh my god
Why in English class? I first watched it in music class in 7th grade. (Basically elementary music class)
Christine is loving these guys fighting over her.
Okay, I just noticed that Raoul smirked at Phantom. I really love this song so much. When I was a kid, I said " If you stab Phantom, I will jump through the telly and stab you". I also sad "Your lucky Roaul, your lucky I can't jump through the tv"
The phantom looks so cool and dashing
Love the song
Not sure about the “he’s not your father” line. It’s as if Raoul is in denial that the phantom is a romantic rival.
The Phantom literally pretends to be her father tho.
Christine thinks the Angel of Music is her father. She literally sings "Angel of Music, friend of Phantom" as well.
@@zaril21 doesn't she sing "friend OR Phantom"?
Basically she thinks that the phantom was a entity sent by her father but he's just a creepy stalker
i have been watching the beginning of the song to 1:38 like 1000000000000000000000 times 😍😍😍😍
I love sword fighting! One of my favorite scenes in the whole movie. Actually fave scene in any movie I've ever seen.
Megstar360 oh my sweet dear you if you love sword fighting than I implore you to watch the one in The Princess Bride. Three times as long and 10000 times better😃😃
Brooke DeLong which fight in the princess bride? Both are wonderful...
Christine just chillin in the back 2:58
Christine just watching her two boyfriends fight each other like 👁️👄👁️
when ever there is a sub in my choir class my class always watches this
Lucky.
Totally rooting for Erik!
1. ok I NEED to know how did Erik learn sword fighting XD
2. everyone keeps saying CHRISTINE SHOULD'VE GONE WITH THE PHANTOM. but I'm like okay, where? to his cave? and live as hermits that terrorize a building whenever they are feeling spicy? raise their children there, having swimming lessons in that dirty af water? like. okay, imagine Christine chooses the Phantom. what happens THEN? they sing, they go all the way, maybe Christine gets her very own Dramatic Wooshing Cape... and then what?
Lol. Fair point. Phantom didn't have a lot going for him at the time besides his voice and charisma. Financial stability and a non-basement type place to live was at the bottom of his list. 😂
this is so funny
Uhhh....
(Points to the novel)
plus having to put up with dead bodies all the time and wondering when the Phantom is going to get mad at her and strangle her--as opposed to marrying a nice wealthy guy who is a count and she gets to be a countess
Erik is a complete *genius;* he can fight sword (the novel doesn't say that, though), he's an architect, musician, 100% artist, and a magician. Besides that he's intense, lovable and gives his soul to EVERYTHING, including loving, protecting and raising Christine. The problem is that anybody gave him the chance of showing his genius because of his deformed face; he was abused by everyone, including his mother. Minus his "insane moment" in the ending, which was cured by Christine's kindness, he was OBVIOUSLY the best choice. And his cave isn't dirty, he was planning to buy a house for them as in the novel. Well, anyway 😂
All of this is not enough to even dislodge Erik's wig but one little tug from Christine at the end and it comes right off???
One question. Why is this comment section (as well as all others of this movie):
45% people loving the version and the actors
45% people hating literally everything from Gerard's voice to the fight
10% people throwing random facts or comparing the musical/movie to the book
And I am just confused, still trying to enjoy stuff tho
This is one of my favourite songs of this mysical
It does set up precendence for Raouls physical capacity to go and fight and survive various traps which in the musical isn't as well established but it is in the book
That dress though..
I sang this in Choir earlier this year and I couldn't help but thinking of Raoul and Erik sword fighting. Because there's this senior in my choir that sounds exactly like Raoul and another one sounds like Erik so during practice, we couldn't help but laugh
My senior stage show boys sounds exactly raoul and one sounds like erik too
i mean my boi looking good in that cape though very cool
"No Raoul , no-not like this..."
"Then like that? "
This is like a battle in Star Wars
It's over Fantom
I have the high ground!
These comments are gold.😂
I remember wanting Raoul to win when I was a kid, because the Phantom scared the shit out of me so I wanted him to lose.
You were a KID, so it makes sense. Thankfully you grew up, i guess? When i was a veeeeery young child, i also rooted for Raoul, i'm very ashamed to confess that. Today i'm free and i know that Erik is better.
Lol, I rooted for Erik as a kid too
Ramin had a magnificent voice but Ramin didn't put emotion,and butler did so there like the opposite kinda
Angle of music u denied me turning from true beauty
😭👌🏻
The phantom is my idol.
god if only capes were back in style
I really want gerard butler to sing me to sleep. His singing is so comforting
Raoul ruins everything. Christine walk faster to your fathers grave before Raoul comes. I love how Raoul falls after jumping and the Phantom lands perfectly on the ground.
I'd go in...
Honestly love both Raoul and Phantom, I’m just mad the movie doesn’t give Erik a (at least) semi good ending.
He escaped scot free after a bunch of murders and psychotic stalking and terrorising an opera house, I'd say he got more than a semi-good ending all things considered.
@@Blisterdude123 LMAO FAIR
Semi good ending: 2 weeks with Erik, 2 with Raoul.
Like in Muslim families when a man has more than 1 wife, and shares his time equally, LOL.
Why we, women can't do that??
and Gerard Butler got his revenge for losing by becoming Leonidas. though he lost again haha
Ahh,;the first ever ghost Patrick Wilson needs to face before he got inspired to catch tougher ghosts(conjuring reference)😂
I would've chosen Phantom over Raoul on any given day
When he spoke at the end of the scene, his mouth is at the side, that's when I know that the Phantom is really Gerard Butler 😂😂💖
People who watch this movie and think Raoul is the hero are insane to me. It's called The Phantom of the Opera. It's not called Fairweather boyfriends who hang out with you once your old boyfriend helped you get famous.
Damn I really love this😭
I absolutely love how every one ships Erik and christine more than raul 😂
Dying in a graveyard would suck
This version of wandering child will always be better than the 25th anniversary one. Adding Raoul in just made no sense and it didn’t sound good at all, it sounded so messed up, I couldn’t tell what was being sung, the only good bit was Ramin coming through at the end with that low note. In this you can actually hear what they are saying and it focuses on Erik and Christine
I can't be the only one that hears "Enter Lord Vader" from Revenge of the Sith at around 1:52, right?
Wandering child so lost so helpless yearning for my guidance
2:55 Stunt double.
+Suvir Sinha What about at 1:47?
For who
Who is he?
Does anybody notice how the color of their clothing represent good and evil like Luke vs Darth Vader ? Or perhaps freedom and open vs strict and closed ?
Erik from the book would've never lost this fight
Who would you guys choose? Raoul or Erik?
Raoul 'cause he can actually sing, lol
But if Ramin Karmiloo were the Phantom, I'd choose him
+Sarae B he does pretty damn good for someone who's never had singing lessons...?
+Emii64 True, but he shouldn't have been chosen for the role if he had never had singing lessons. POTO is a musical that can't afford mediocrity. Gerard was chosen for sex appeal, not singing talent. Sure, he can carry a tune, but you have to be able to do more than that if you're playing the title role of this musical.
+SdAmy Minsun Erik
Christine decides that taking this guy to the police wouldn't be nice so she lets him go. Pretty much a few scenes later he kills like fifty people by dropping the chandelier. Those deaths are all on Christine.
How about I just take Raoul and Christine can go with the phantom.
Nice adding a sword fight in this film it makes it more interesting
The Phantom doesn’t fight likeThe Gladiator.
Gee wasn’t a terrible Phantom I just have a huge problem with the deformity
Gosto muito desse filme. .pena que não consegui assistir no TH-cam 😊o fantasma da ópera
1:30 always give me chills.
I love the way that Christine save phantom life
That show how much she loves him
Good thing Raoul was there. Maybe he was the one who her father sent instead of the Phantom.
I can't hold this scene of the musical, i found it kinda nonsense because Leroux Erik would never pretend being her *father* (the angel, yes, but father? Nope). But, i understand what both Christine and Erik feel on this scene, and i hope some annoying brainless people can understand that Erik is not "perverse", evil or anything like this.
Christine lost her father, she is sad because of it. She is alone. Erik loves her more than anything on his life, and no, it is not "obsession" or false love, use your brain a little and try to understand the message of the Final Lair and how much noble Erik always was. Erik pretended to be her angel of music because he was afraid of showing himself as a normal man, he was abused and shunned for years and he just... doesn't feel worthy anymore. Only at "The Final Lair" is that he understand how much human he was and let her go because he loved her more than anyone did. Anyway, he wanted to protect Christine. He HATED to see her sad, defenseless, lonely... he saw himself on her. Being her "angel" would protect her, but once he falls in love with her and shows himself as a mortal human (and the feared The Phantom of The Opera), Christine started to feel uncorfutable at his side. It is not her or his fault, she was only scared. Erik thought "so, not being her angel but a man scares her? So i'll be a pathernal figure". The musical is veeeeery poetic and romantic, so no, i do NOT believe he was literally pretending to be Christine's father, he tried to be some kind of pathernal figure to make her happier, and then he could marry her. He had a horrible life and his father didn't love him, it is not his fault that he doesn't know how to deal with emontions. If you blame him for this, you're a jerk. The same way Christine was scared and sad missing her daddy, Erik was abused all of his life and he couldn't adapt 100% to a normal life. Both did wrong things based on what they lived, if you blame Erik and defend 10000% Christine... hipocrisy, is that the name?
This comment is quite underrated, my favorite so far!
Right, and let's not forget that in a good long term relationship we're not only the romantic lovers of our spouses, but their best friends, even each-other's mother/father sometimes, giving comfort, solace, support each-other's career, etc.
Exactly lmao
Why do you think Raoul referred to the Phantom as "this thing" after "this man?"
Doesn't sound the same without Raoul's part...
Sara B.
Yeah, good point.
Yes, it's much better without Raoul's part
I don’t know why it bothers me so much that Raoul got onto the horse before Christine did..
EBS에서 하길래 봤는데... 노래에 중독되어 버렸다...
For anyone who thinks Erik would not have lost this fight, I fully see where you're coming from but A. Erik probably hasn't fought against another person in awhile and B. He had Raoul on the ropes for pretty much the whole fight. Raoul literally just get lucky with being strong enough to disarm him.
And let's not forget that damned cape in the way...
Here’s the thing though…Erik would NEVER put himself into a position to lose to Raoul, NEVER, he is way too smart for that. Erik uses his brain to gain the advantage not his muscles, hence him fooling everyone into thinking he’s an actual Ghost…he is a master magician, and a genius.
And second a sword fight is frankly too ‘normal’ for him, this Man is the very definition of THEATRICAL, and a physical fight is how normal guys deal with their differences, Erik is not a normal guy, he wouldn’t even bother with that crap.
Erik would either have Raoul at the end of his noose in the blink of an eye like in the final lair, of he’d make a big show of trying to intimidate him with something dramatic, like the fireballs in the Stage Show.
I feel Schumacher wanted the sword fight more for Raoul’s sake, to make him into more of a Romantic Hero, but it completely undermined Eriks character in my opinion.
He jumped down like Batman
1:48 You're out of your league Raul. You're crossing sabers with a Spartan King. Still, if its a whoopin you're a wantin.....
Okay, she had a very nervous life, but I wish I was Christine at this scene. THESE men are fighting for her.
1:47
FIGHT ME KELLY!!!