So the only thing i have a question about, is how come you're not using a shotgun that has one two punch on it? Almost every punch hunter build ive seen they run it but this one doesn't so I'm just wondering why you prefer not to use it
There's a couple reasons. One is that OTP doesn't stack with the Frozen damage bonus. Frozen enemies take 120% increased damage vs OTP's +100%. I'm not sure why they don't stack but that's just how it is :/. Second, is that it's just a bit clunky. It's not something you CAN'T do; but in the same way I don't use tractor, I just didn't like it too much
One of the best build guides I’ve seen. You’re straight to the point, articulate, you don’t try and make lame and awkward jokes or waffle on about stuff we don’t need to hear about; awesome stuff. That’s a sub from me - ps. This build is so fun! I one shot an overload on GM and my jaw literally dropped. I then laughed out loud and started to grin menacingly as I approachedanother champion who was “unlucky enough to be in front of me” 🎉
Awesome guy! Nice to have every aspect broken down and actually understand the stacking. It’s easy to just roll and punch, but the continuation/ combination of other elements is good to hear
I also recommend using Vantage point in energy weapon slot. It has jolting feedback and you can more consistently get those precision hits to blind since it’s a pulse. It is also just a great gun!
Need to change one aspect but I’ve been pretty much playing this since I got my class item a few months ago. SOIL/Liars is the super sexy combo. Slap on lost signal/ pyrolectric propellant with strategist or eddy current/ jolting feedback. Pop that purple drank arc potion and go bananas dude. Gg and cheers 🤙🏼
I'd built into my hunter this style of kit but with the intentions of abusing the new 3x regeneration of roaming supers, especially SS. I've taken some great build tips from this (very well documented) presentation and now have a great balance of explosive damage and a great super juiced by galanor on the cloak. You're really easy to listen to, which is why I look forward to a Toidi vid! Cheers.
This is great I've warned to get back into hunter again as this season has been my titan villain arc but this will move that back to my hunter and the increased damage is making me use this build again. New sub bro!!
Wouldn't a dynamo work better than a third or even a second hands on? Diminishing effects for copies might not outweigh a single version of either mod. I always run one of each since I should be doing about as much punching as dodging.
I tried one-punch hunter earlier, did not really enjoyed... rly slow for the progress. good on clearing high-health adds but rly hard to build the momentum at the boss rooms if the adds are dead. decent build but a little more boring... dodge, punch, dodge, punch... take a while to practice, once you know how to do this it is simple, but a little boring :(
I was using caliban - syntho.. then I finally got a caliban - Liar's... insane how much it's changed my playstyle, yellow bars melt, and I've solo'd more content than I thought was possible. I prefer Specter over Stylish, but maybe im tripping, will def have to test 'em both out in survivability. Only problem is im ass at keeping track of my combination blow lol Also vantage point with jolting/eddy goes hard and riskrunner is straight goated. Bittersweet is the icing.
I can’t stay alive long enough for me to stand there & get hit or run around invis & probs not gonna try the 2 shots to blind but stronger melees for pvp is my goal😂😂 when they’re up my ass & I can just spin around & sock em but I’ll try this build! Great work
No matter how hard I try I can't go beyond 670k, which, by all means, is absurd amount of damage, yet I was hoping to breach the 800k without avail. So frustrating. Thank you for the awesome video and build tho!
I've been running a quite similar build overall for a while ever since they buffed roaming super uptime, though my source of Blinding is just EX-Diris, as 2 shots do blind and I actully do not utilize Stylish on my build, rather I actually really enjoy threaded specter for that extra fragment slot and imo great ad-clear and cc potential all around. though it is interchangable. The one thing though, that I feel elevates this playstyle to the max though is to have a spirit of the Foetracer + Liar Clas Item, as it super buffs Acrius against bigger targets with 4x Surges.
I found out one of the best options on class item be or spirit of inmost light for faster nade cd or spirit of assassin for that you were able to go in invis all of the time(kills when stylish in cd or for finishers or to replace stylish on spectre)
This Elevated Punch is great. I have an Assassin/Liars Relativism, and am now wondering if the invis from Assassin will prevent stylish exec. from procing... any idea?
Why would you use stilysh executioner when you already have Assassin? It seems a bit overkill to me. Try using witherhoard (plus seasonal artifact mod) to weaken the target and threaded specter instead of stilysh executioner (since you'll be dodging very often) and you'll have more survivability and 1 more fragment slot for your build
I reccomend instead of galanor or caliban on your class item, spirit of inmost light to keep your grenade up more or spirit of the dragon to keep all your weapons loaded without ever needing to manually reload
you forgot one two punch for an extra 80% on the liars melee u can proc stylish executioner with the one two punch shotgun by killing a slowed ad to get into invis like how you do hunter grapple melees bringing your total to 1,498,597 damage with a single counter punch
3x hands-on is a bad suggestion, it has severe diminishing returns. Instead, use Dynamo! It too gives super energy on dodge, which we will be constantly doing too.
PLEASE UPVOTE THIS/PIN IT so that people are aware: If you have ANY stack of combination blow, the grapple melee will do less damage in combination with SYNTHOCEPS because bungie decided the lower Synthoceps damage bonus percentage from 165% extra damage to ONLY 30%! when combination blow is active and IT AFFECTS GRAPPLE MELEE
You don't need Facett of Blessing mate. It does nothing in this build (Liar's Handshake and/or Combo Blow do the same, so the effects overwrite each other). Devotion, Sacrifice, Awakening, or maybe even Solitude are better options 👍
@@eyeONE_Official I just jumped on and tried it. I also made sure to take off Recuperation, and yes you are correct, the healing effect does still trigger even though Relativism doesn't specify, so I am going to throw a new fragment in that slot. Cheers!
Does this build already contain that random stray nerf of 17% we catched on combination blow with the midseason patch? Also I think Spirit of Renewel is a nice second perk when using Spirit of Liar Relativism, for another layer of CC and DR and also gives the build a dedicated grenade option :)
Honestly, I think its pretty unnecessary to run recovery for hunter melee builds. You are constantly going to be getting your health back from orbs and combination blow kills so I think opting for super would help way more in survivability and lethality
I was hitting the 999,999 on enemies like 2 seasons ago and it was awesome I didn't even need a gun debuff like tractor or div and I was hitting the 999,999
I just love this build in solo content but with other players it can get annoying because they kill the adds too fast to or they kill the add you’re trying to save to get to x3 etc so I run this all day when I’m solo but in a team it’s cyrtaraches with inmost light build I use 10xs over.
Have you used a Punch Hunter build before?
So the only thing i have a question about, is how come you're not using a shotgun that has one two punch on it? Almost every punch hunter build ive seen they run it but this one doesn't so I'm just wondering why you prefer not to use it
There's a couple reasons. One is that OTP doesn't stack with the Frozen damage bonus. Frozen enemies take 120% increased damage vs OTP's +100%. I'm not sure why they don't stack but that's just how it is :/. Second, is that it's just a bit clunky. It's not something you CAN'T do; but in the same way I don't use tractor, I just didn't like it too much
I have
@@wesleyy846 also firing a weapon would get rid of your invis which also gets rid of the increase melee damage while invis from stylish executioner
I used liar/caliban a bit and not sure why I stopped using it😅.
Inmost/liar would be good as well.
This video played on autoplay while I was doing the deed, it gave me that 9,586% buff and she called me back the next day.
W vid
man's amplified with the jolting feedback
Lets be honest gang you aren’t doing the deed, you’re a destiny player
@@Konigsmask my boyfriend would like to disagree
@@solclipse2205 So your either poly or cheating based on your original comment, and this one... Really hope it's poly...
@@solclipse2205🤔
One of the best build guides I’ve seen. You’re straight to the point, articulate, you don’t try and make lame and awkward jokes or waffle on about stuff we don’t need to hear about; awesome stuff. That’s a sub from me - ps. This build is so fun! I one shot an overload on GM and my jaw literally dropped. I then laughed out loud and started to grin menacingly as I approachedanother champion who was “unlucky enough to be in front of me” 🎉
GET EM!
Really appreciated how you walked through how the buff stacking worked. Super helpful!
I like this build with inmost/liar for crazy grenade spam but now I'm hunting the galanor roll. Thanks for the video.
Awesome guy! Nice to have every aspect broken down and actually understand the stacking. It’s easy to just roll and punch, but the continuation/ combination of other elements is good to hear
Elevated punch. Great build thanks for taking the time to explain everything in thorough detail.
Props for spelling thorough correctly man, literacy is gangsta!
I also recommend using Vantage point in energy weapon slot. It has jolting feedback and you can more consistently get those precision hits to blind since it’s a pulse. It is also just a great gun!
Nice job with the timestamps and the dim links. Liked and subbed
I really liked how you built it up and explained the whole thing top to bottom. Good job! Subscribed!
Very nice upgrade to this build and very clear on how to build and use. Thanks!
Need to change one aspect but I’ve been pretty much playing this since I got my class item a few months ago. SOIL/Liars is the super sexy combo. Slap on lost signal/ pyrolectric propellant with strategist or eddy current/ jolting feedback. Pop that purple drank arc potion and go bananas dude. Gg and cheers 🤙🏼
I'd built into my hunter this style of kit but with the intentions of abusing the new 3x regeneration of roaming supers, especially SS. I've taken some great build tips from this (very well documented) presentation and now have a great balance of explosive damage and a great super juiced by galanor on the cloak. You're really easy to listen to, which is why I look forward to a Toidi vid! Cheers.
was looking for another one of these, appreciate it man
This is great I've warned to get back into hunter again as this season has been my titan villain arc but this will move that back to my hunter and the increased damage is making me use this build again. New sub bro!!
Your content is so underrated great video bro clear and easy to follow and straight to the point
Subbed for the comprehensive build and breakdown, looking forward to some more builds in the future!
Elevated punchhhhh, awesome work bro
Wouldn't a dynamo work better than a third or even a second hands on? Diminishing effects for copies might not outweigh a single version of either mod. I always run one of each since I should be doing about as much punching as dodging.
Dynamo is 100% the way to go, you don't even need kills
yup dynamo is better than a 3rd hands on, you might want to have 2 hands on tho as the super gain increase is defenitely noticeable in contrast to 1.
Gotta love the algorithm man! Thanks for the video! Subbed!
Alright! I actually have this exotic class piece and can't wait to punch my way to victory. Thank you!
Thanks for the build! Subbed!
Great vid, thanks for being comprehensive.
Liars Handshake and Spirit do not have the exact same functionality! Liars Handshake also heals
Ehh… not as important for the purpose of the build imo
Nice build, will take it for a spin👊🏾.
We are punching our way out with this build 😤
Ps. Elevated punch
W video! Came back to destiny today, had a matics build on and it wasnt doing that damage it once would so im DEFINITELY trying this tomorrow!!!
man ure insane, thanks for the build
This is neat. Thanks Broski
Love it!
Elevated punch
ELEVATED PUNCH 🤜
I’d just use Centrifuge with this build. Blind is baked into it. Thanks for the info!
That 309% got nerfed by 17% and healing has a reduced return 80/60/40 respectively.
I tried one-punch hunter earlier, did not really enjoyed... rly slow for the progress. good on clearing high-health adds but rly hard to build the momentum at the boss rooms if the adds are dead. decent build but a little more boring... dodge, punch, dodge, punch... take a while to practice, once you know how to do this it is simple, but a little boring :(
Elevated punch dis d! 😂 good video😊
I was using caliban - syntho.. then I finally got a caliban - Liar's... insane how much it's changed my playstyle, yellow bars melt, and I've solo'd more content than I thought was possible. I prefer Specter over Stylish, but maybe im tripping, will def have to test 'em both out in survivability. Only problem is im ass at keeping track of my combination blow lol
Also vantage point with jolting/eddy goes hard and riskrunner is straight goated. Bittersweet is the icing.
I can’t stay alive long enough for me to stand there & get hit or run around invis & probs not gonna try the 2 shots to blind but stronger melees for pvp is my goal😂😂 when they’re up my ass & I can just spin around & sock em but I’ll try this build! Great work
No matter how hard I try I can't go beyond 670k, which, by all means, is absurd amount of damage, yet I was hoping to breach the 800k without avail.
So frustrating.
Thank you for the awesome video and build tho!
I've been running a quite similar build overall for a while ever since they buffed roaming super uptime, though my source of Blinding is just EX-Diris, as 2 shots do blind and I actully do not utilize Stylish on my build, rather I actually really enjoy threaded specter for that extra fragment slot and imo great ad-clear and cc potential all around. though it is interchangable.
The one thing though, that I feel elevates this playstyle to the max though is to have a spirit of the Foetracer + Liar Clas Item, as it super buffs Acrius against bigger targets with 4x Surges.
I found out one of the best options on class item be or spirit of inmost light for faster nade cd or spirit of assassin for that you were able to go in invis all of the time(kills when stylish in cd or for finishers or to replace stylish on spectre)
Cries in warlock lighting surge
What about 1:2 punch?
Why facet of blessing? You already have health regen on Liar's
If you are using the class item you don't get the health regen from liars
what is the best exotic weapon to put whit the build ?
Merry punching
edged to the thumbnail, busted at 0:01
jelk is spelled with a K
@@WDGabe thats real
you don't use a shotgun with onetwo punch ?
Cheers 👍🍻
Nice video, thanks.Could you compare this build with synthoceps as they are available in class item.cheers
Elevated punch baybeeee
This Elevated Punch is great. I have an Assassin/Liars Relativism, and am now wondering if the invis from Assassin will prevent stylish exec. from procing... any idea?
Why would you use stilysh executioner when you already have Assassin? It seems a bit overkill to me. Try using witherhoard (plus seasonal artifact mod) to weaken the target and threaded specter instead of stilysh executioner (since you'll be dodging very often) and you'll have more survivability and 1 more fragment slot for your build
I know how powerful this build is I just can’t go another day spamming dodge punch😭
Would a 1-2 punch shotgun be worth anything with this build?
ah that one exotic cape I don't have
Is this post update? I thought bungie said something about nerfing it again?
all of this was recorded after the most recent patch
Adding track con then followed up with 1 2 punch lol😅
very nice, man. subbed...
Elevated punch
I reccomend instead of galanor or caliban on your class item, spirit of inmost light to keep your grenade up more or spirit of the dragon to keep all your weapons loaded without ever needing to manually reload
got the roll last night by surprise and it shreds content, feels unfair to get my grenade back so soon
Bro I'm about to try out this build on the grandmaster hopefully I can actually cook.
@ellieswagaye ive been trying so hard to get inmost with liars handshake but I just got one with imost and cyrtarachne's and it's great.
@@alexanderolson4990 oooo yea inmost + cyrtarachne seems like one of the best in slot combos, nice bro.
this was my first ever completely random roll on the class item, without focusing
toidi this editing is fucking heat ngl
How does he instantly get dodge back all the time?
When you elevate the punch^^^
Does one-two punch not work with this?
you forgot one two punch for an extra 80% on the liars melee
u can proc stylish executioner with the one two punch shotgun by killing a slowed ad to get into invis like how you do hunter grapple melees
bringing your total to 1,498,597 damage with a single counter punch
show me a vid of this build killing a malignant wyvern on Neptune please :)
Over 9000!
Top 3 stats to focus?
Why no one-two punch?
Subbed nice video 👍
Hell yeah take my sub
3x hands-on is a bad suggestion, it has severe diminishing returns. Instead, use Dynamo! It too gives super energy on dodge, which we will be constantly doing too.
elevated punch
Does saints fist stack against frozen targets, ik one two punch doesnt ?
I actually don’t know about that. Might be due for a test
Just curious but does going transcendence increase the damage a little more?
it does not. Transcendence makes weapons deal 5% more though
Hey what is the thing that gives your arm a blade when punching? Is it some kind of armor or smth?
That comes from from Spirit of The Liar or Liar's Handshake
@ thank you dude i have been scrolling through the legendary armor sets repeatedly for an hour trying to find it😂
PLEASE UPVOTE THIS/PIN IT so that people are aware: If you have ANY stack of combination blow, the grapple melee will do less damage in combination with SYNTHOCEPS because bungie decided the lower Synthoceps damage bonus percentage from 165% extra damage to ONLY 30%! when combination blow is active and IT AFFECTS GRAPPLE MELEE
You could use duskfield to stun champs
Could you use riskrunner with this build?
How do I do damage to bosses though
That's the neat part. You don't.
goated video!
Punching from invis will apply weaken tho
The day we get Necrotic Liar’s, I’m gonna fist again.
Fist me
w guide👍
Good build
You don't need Facett of Blessing mate. It does nothing in this build (Liar's Handshake and/or Combo Blow do the same, so the effects overwrite each other). Devotion, Sacrifice, Awakening, or maybe even Solitude are better options 👍
You'd pull in Blessing if you are using the cloak instead of the gloves.
@@assassinwolf7216 hmm irrc you still get enough healing from combo blow. didn't play that build for a while though
@@eyeONE_Official I just jumped on and tried it. I also made sure to take off Recuperation, and yes you are correct, the healing effect does still trigger even though Relativism doesn't specify, so I am going to throw a new fragment in that slot. Cheers!
@@assassinwolf7216 nice good to have confirmation. cheerio 👍
wheres the bxr with Blunt Ex Rounds.
Does this build already contain that random stray nerf of 17% we catched on combination blow with the midseason patch?
Also I think Spirit of Renewel is a nice second perk when using Spirit of Liar Relativism, for another layer of CC and DR and also gives the build a dedicated grenade option :)
I actually didn't know about that nerf. But yeah all of the footage is after the midseason patch. Also renewal is a great option, for sure!
Blinding grenades regardless of type. Work with all these arc artifact mods
Yup, I'ma make an Assassin's Creed build with this one.
Honestly, I think its pretty unnecessary to run recovery for hunter melee builds. You are constantly going to be getting your health back from orbs and combination blow kills so I think opting for super would help way more in survivability and lethality
sick build man can make this on my infographics build card and credit u
I use liars/inmost its such a good combo
Why not add one two punch shotgun for even more multiplication
I was hitting the 999,999 on enemies like 2 seasons ago and it was awesome I didn't even need a gun debuff like tractor or div and I was hitting the 999,999
does one two punch stack still?
yes, but not against frozen targets
@ ahh okay
Ellie-vayted-poonch
Interesting ❤
hunters... the punch class... titans............. the..... thing you know, you do.... you know?.... anyways.....
I just love this build in solo content but with other players it can get annoying because they kill the adds too fast to or they kill the add you’re trying to save to get to x3 etc so I run this all day when I’m solo but in a team it’s cyrtaraches with inmost light build I use 10xs over.