Looks like only ONE driver has understood the start flag procedure. He let the clutch out when the flag got to the top just when it started coming down. No waiting until the flag comes al the way down. The Kirkaldy penalty was wrong. Spiers didn't have any contact; he put his wheels on the grass and his car span.
errmmm...... One thing race car _fans_ love, is to see cars raced. Apart from this observation being, essentially, redundant - we don't need to anthropomorphise cars, no matter how much we like them.
The 81 car didn't move before the flag moved so If they call that a jump & the start is supposed to be on the flag "drop" then the flag movement should start from the raised position not the lowered position.
That was very cruel decision. He moved just as the flag came down from its highest point. If anything he was to perfect on the start. He needs to go drag racing 😂
Watched this live over the weekend and the whole meeting was absolutely brilliant. This race was fabulous and I'd watch any of the Goodwood racing over F1 every day of the week. Amazing (and really interesting) cars, really talented field. Proper racing that. Top work GRRC! 👏
That must have been so awesome!! I am in the USA so it is a bit tough to get to the celebration. I am restoring a 1928 Morgan /GN special race car soon as I start my TH-cam channel called machines and Motors. I have been assembling a machine shop to support my building of pre war racers. Hope to see you there...
Fantastic! It’s difficult for us to imagine how rapid they going down the pit straight because the telephoto effect, but I’m thinking are really hauling the barley!
the race: 11 out of ten (pure gold❤) commentating: 4 (due to male voice loosing touch with activities) drone shots 1 ( get better drone, better lens or focus properly) overall: incredible activities, formula one eat your heart out 😊 big THANK YOU , kept me glued to the screen till the last seconds ❤
This isn't the USA, please stop giving the numbers only, give us the car type and engine info. Not always eg engine type of the 129 Cooper (ford ,chevy ,climax?)
Chevron absolutely nailed that race start. Might have been a hair early at most, but if this was 100% period correct then half the grid would have jumped the start by just a “hair” 😂
Kirkaldy definitely jumped the start, you can see it in slow motion if you stop the video at 0:06 then advance frame by frame. #81 started moving forward while the flag was still being held high and before the flag started to drop. You can use the fullstop & comma keys on your keyboard to advance & back up frame by frame and that's the only way you can see exactly what happened. End of story for all those who think otherwise in previous comments, you're just plain wrong, pure and simple.
Amazing... I hope he was given the win... easy to see there was no jump. Would this be the group that included Lotus 47 back in the day? I am partial, as a Europa owner.
What a fantastic race! One of the best that I have seen at Goodwood. You’d think those Chevrons would have been completely out matched due to the difference in HP! Still wondering what happened to Alex Brundle’s car though.
Yeah, the GT40 is not designed for this track. Give it some open road and watch it disappear into the distance. That's why they switched from the 289 H.O. to the 7 liters of brute force.
I didn't see Brundle in the black GT40 being left in the dust until obviously something happened either to him or the car. REMEMBER as well that it isn't a 427 powered GT40. Otherwise, he would no doubt have achieved the lead.
@@tonychavez2083 They're about 550kg or 1200 lb or so. Generally speaking it's the British way rather than just Lotus. Cooper T57 and T61 and the Lola were all a similar weight and power.
How many of those GT40's are genuine GT40's - are any of them replicas that are not necessarily identical. Are all of the GT40 drivers fully qualified to drive one to a professional standard.
If you say you start on the flag drop. The flag clearly drops from the starters hand before he raised it. To the announcers. If a driver is aware of a penalty and backs off and loses positions, he will not have a reason to disputes the penalty. In this case if Kirkaldy potions for the penalty to be reviewed and the penalty is overturned he will be the winner. Which he should be.
Kirkaldy simply nailed the start...there should not have been a penalty. I watched it over and over...someone please tell me if it's supposed to be on the drop of the flag...because Goodwood does one swift motion, they don't hold it out, and then drop it...
A ten second penalty should be served immediately. They should not be allowed to continue to interrupt the race of the cars that are 'ahead' of them due to their infringement.
Is that a stolen start or not? When does it count? If we look closely, the car with the orange nose cone starts as the flkag goes backwards Sometime at the 2:06 mark, the moment the car moves, the flag is still going twards the head of the guy there.
ford bought a racing history,, they used english cars in both times, the gt40 was a lola and the ac cobra was a bristol. they would have been even faster if they ran chev motors back in the day. most of these cars in this race are 1 million bucks+
The gt40’s didn’t start winning until they were sent to the US and completely reworked by ford and its subcontractors kar kraft ,Shelby and Holman and moody. Also Shelby went to Chevy first with the cobra idea and they didn’t want anything to do with it
@@travislostaglia8861 The only reason the GT40s didn't start winning until they were sent to the US was because the corporate dickheads at Dearborn wouldn't listen to what John Wyer and Eric Broadley were telling them. If they had then the transmission, suspension and aerodynamics problems the car had could have been fixed much earlier.
What is the Surtees Trophy? www.goodwood.com/grr/event-coverage/members-meeting/2024/3/2024-surtees-trophy--81mm/
The PENALTY That They Gave The GUY at the START WAS CRAP I REPLAYED it FLAG WAS All The Way UP and On the Way DOWN HE DID NOT JUMP He Is The WInner
chevroly, the only thing chev about it, is the block, possibly.. ford is all ford..
Looks like only ONE driver has understood the start flag procedure.
He let the clutch out when the flag got to the top just when it started coming down. No waiting until the flag comes al the way down.
The Kirkaldy penalty was wrong.
Spiers didn't have any contact; he put his wheels on the grass and his car span.
What a race. This is why attending Goodwood is high on my bucket list.
I wanna go there someday but I don't have a passport 😂😂😂
Nothings better than watching classic GT Cars duke it out!
So sad we couldn’t make the end 😢 epic race!
You were flying until you had that issue! Definitely would have been fighting for the win at the end on pace!
Was cheering for you, and so sad you had problems
As any old guy starts his story, I watched my first race in 1965. These are the cars of my childhood. Thanks for the memories!
One of the most beautiful classic car races ever! One thing racecars love is to be raced. Thank for that! Cheers!
errmmm...... One thing race car _fans_ love, is to see cars raced. Apart from this observation being, essentially, redundant - we don't need to anthropomorphise cars, no matter how much we like them.
The 81 car didn't move before the flag moved so If they call that a jump & the start is supposed to be on the flag "drop" then the flag movement should start from the raised position not the lowered position.
spot on
Completely agree. He went as soon as the guys arm swung out, everyone else was caught snoozin'
100%
🎉 epic
That was very cruel decision. He moved just as the flag came down from its highest point. If anything he was to perfect on the start. He needs to go drag racing 😂
The Chevrons are gorgeous little things.
…like a 550 front end with a 908 rear.
The Chevron B8, like #81, only weigh 550kg. That's a rocket ship.
What engines did they have in them?
Watched this live over the weekend and the whole meeting was absolutely brilliant.
This race was fabulous and I'd watch any of the Goodwood racing over F1 every day of the week.
Amazing (and really interesting) cars, really talented field. Proper racing that.
Top work GRRC! 👏
Proper racing this is. No strategies and undercuts in pits. Just 3 peddles and maximum fuel usage.
joyn the "club".....there's nothing better than Goodwood members meetings.....where real cars are driven on the limit by real drivers....
@@stratman9449 Yup, been looking to do exactly that!😁
Agreed! This feels more like real racing than F1.
start and opening lap.....you just don't know where to look for all that beauty and raw power......fantastic.....more please....
I was atop the pits watching it all-epic racing!!!
That must have been so awesome!! I am in the USA so it is a bit tough to get to the celebration. I am restoring a 1928 Morgan /GN special race car soon as I start my TH-cam channel called machines and Motors. I have been assembling a machine shop to support my building of pre war racers. Hope to see you there...
Fantastic! It’s difficult for us to imagine how rapid they going down the pit straight because the telephoto effect, but I’m thinking are really hauling the barley!
OMG. What an epic race from start to finish! Absolutely action packed but respectful as well. Loved it. Goodwood always delivers 👏👏👏
One of the best races i have seen
I agree.
glad these cars are racing and racing hard.
the driving of those two Chevrons is top level.
Very nice race and a special thank you to the commentators. Knowing the cars as well as the drivers and even mentioning the numbers
I salute you 👏
that green no. 33 GT-40 is just beautiful.
the race: 11 out of ten (pure gold❤)
commentating: 4 (due to male voice loosing touch with activities)
drone shots 1 ( get better drone, better lens or focus properly)
overall: incredible activities, formula one eat your heart out 😊
big THANK YOU , kept me glued to the screen till the last seconds ❤
FANTASTIC Racing!!
Wow! Real racing with respect for the classic machines.
greatest race, wonderful Lola’s
Ahhh the cars of my youth ... Lovely!
What a Race!!, Turn it up for full effect
Oh wow. Thunderous! Can-am cars in GB. How awesome!
These races are pure gold
This isn't the USA, please stop giving the numbers only, give us the car type and engine info. Not always eg engine type of the 129 Cooper (ford ,chevy ,climax?)
Chevron absolutely nailed that race start. Might have been a hair early at most, but if this was 100% period correct then half the grid would have jumped the start by just a “hair” 😂
Beats a current F1 race any day!
Great race!
Not enough tire and plenty of horsepower makes great racing.
The duel between those two Chevrons was epic.
I'm afraid I'm neither a Ferrari nor a Ford fan, GT40's yeah, nothing against them, so it's great to see the likes of Chevrons etc
Great race. Was not familiar with the Chevron B8 but, wow, what an impressive little car considering it's a 4-cyl.
Kirkaldy definitely jumped the start, you can see it in slow motion if you stop the video at 0:06 then advance frame by frame.
#81 started moving forward while the flag was still being held high and before the flag started to drop.
You can use the fullstop & comma keys on your keyboard to advance & back up frame by frame and that's the only way you can see exactly what happened.
End of story for all those who think otherwise in previous comments, you're just plain wrong, pure and simple.
It’s nice to see Chevrons doing ‘it’.
Everyone has to love a GT40 though - even if they aren’t as dynamic as the others
Amazing... I hope he was given the win... easy to see there was no jump. Would this be the group that included Lotus 47 back in the day? I am partial, as a Europa owner.
Fabulous Race . A shame about Kirkaldy , he would have been a Worthy Winner with that performance .
What a fantastic race! One of the best that I have seen at Goodwood. You’d think those Chevrons would have been completely out matched due to the difference in HP! Still wondering what happened to Alex Brundle’s car though.
Group 7 sports racers ( early Can-Am cars ) are always going to beat GT40s built for endurance sports car racing.
Yeah, the GT40 is not designed for this track. Give it some open road and watch it disappear into the distance. That's why they switched from the 289 H.O. to the 7 liters of brute force.
NO YOUR KIDDING ME … !! I THOUGHT THE FORD GT-40 BEAT EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD …? 😮😂🏁
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A tiny Mk1 GT40, does the engine make more than 300hp? And the rear tyres, 205`s? Quite a bit from the US made GT40 Mk2`s 550hps and 295 rears
Had me with "GT 40s left in the dust"
Great cars.
Kirkcaldy didn't jump the start; the flag was dropping when he launched!!!
It was perfect 🎉😂
I love those Chevy powered Lola's .
How did Kirkaldy's car get through scrutineering? Both door windows are out of their frames from the get go, driver's door moreso.
Shame there was no replay of the start to show how the penalty was judged.
My brother had many a battle with a chevron b8 when he was racing his lotus 23b in the 70s.
I didn't see Brundle in the black GT40 being left in the dust until obviously something happened either to him or the car. REMEMBER as well that it isn't a 427 powered GT40. Otherwise, he would no doubt have achieved the lead.
Bolton's Finest!
Proper race cars...
Not quite the track for a GT40 to stretch its legs, but still fun to watch.
what powerplant do those little Chevron's run?
BMW four pots.
@@TroyConvers5000they ran formula ford 4 cylinders also it depends on the car
With BMW engine they have higher power to weight ratio than a 911 GT2.
@@marks7197 they look very light, their using the old Lotus recipe.
@@tonychavez2083 They're about 550kg or 1200 lb or so. Generally speaking it's the British way rather than just Lotus. Cooper T57 and T61 and the Lola were all a similar weight and power.
If F1 returned to anywhere like as exciting as this, it would dominate sports coverage round the world.
Was David Addison part of the commentary team ? I’ve not watched all of this years meeting!
Wow that was not a false start my guy had a perfect launch
As the GT40 was technically a Lola anyway I’d say this was a decent result for us brits .
I think Kirkaldy(81) just timed his launch perfectly, I don't think he jumped. BTW: whoever titled this video needs their eye's examined.
whats a b8 doing in this race
What a fight! Shame Simmonds spoiled it by taking out Bellinger.
Amazing!
Wasn't a false start, though.
Surely we can agree that the Cooper Monaco is both the moral victor and the one we'd all want to take home??
Is there an english version , i mean an undertandable one
How many of those GT40's are genuine GT40's - are any of them replicas that are not necessarily identical. Are all of the GT40 drivers fully qualified to drive one to a professional standard.
JUMP START
Back maker had to watch
"The 95?" This man wants to be commenting on NASCAR, not Goodwood.
Jumped the start because its the Drop of the Flag that symbolises the Start, not the lifting of the flag before the drop.
When did Kirkaldy find out he had a penalty?
If you say you start on the flag drop. The flag clearly drops from the starters hand before he raised it. To the announcers. If a driver is aware of a penalty and backs off and loses positions, he will not have a reason to disputes the penalty. In this case if Kirkaldy potions for the penalty to be reviewed and the penalty is overturned he will be the winner. Which he should be.
Kirkaldy simply nailed the start...there should not have been a penalty. I watched it over and over...someone please tell me if it's supposed to be on the drop of the flag...because Goodwood does one swift motion, they don't hold it out, and then drop it...
Why no Chevrolet Chaparral cars running?
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Chevron B8 ford, BMW?
The 40 seems to be running om awfully narrow tires, isnt it??
You can’t ’wring its neck’ in a car, because you don’t use a twist-grip as throttle control.
A ten second penalty should be served immediately. They should not be allowed to continue to interrupt the race of the cars that are 'ahead' of them due to their infringement.
Is that a stolen start or not?
When does it count?
If we look closely, the car with the orange nose cone starts as the flkag goes backwards
Sometime at the 2:06 mark, the moment the car moves, the flag is still going twards the head of the guy there.
The PENALTY That They Gave The GUY at the START WAS CRAP I REPLAYED it FLAG WAS All The Way UP and On the Way DOWN HE DID NOT JUMP He Is The WInner
There must be a Spec Savers open for you.
Any T70 owners wanna give me a ride?
The average guy's got more common sense than Karen:)
Please can you stop wringing the necks of these cars ? Neither pleasant nor apposite. Racing is amazing 11 out of 10 to all .
Stop using something that it was designed for? I guess you felt the same way about your brain...
If the GT40 was any of the 66/67 type with a 427 none of these cars would have gotten a sniff of them. 427 has no equal sorry
This is not exactly the track type the GT40 was designed for, LeMans has a long straight where the GT40 would excel.
Very nice race.
Sure don't hold back on the anti-American bias, do they?
Whut
Andrew cheated. Left when the flag was being raised .....not dropped. :)
ford bought a racing history,, they used english cars in both times, the gt40 was a lola and the ac cobra was a bristol.
they would have been even faster if they ran chev motors back in the day. most of these cars in this race are 1 million bucks+
The gt40’s didn’t start winning until they were sent to the US and completely reworked by ford and its subcontractors kar kraft ,Shelby and Holman and moody. Also Shelby went to Chevy first with the cobra idea and they didn’t want anything to do with it
@@travislostaglia8861 The only reason the GT40s didn't start winning until they were sent to the US was because the corporate dickheads at Dearborn wouldn't listen to what John Wyer and Eric Broadley were telling them. If they had then the transmission, suspension and aerodynamics problems the car had could have been fixed much earlier.
the guy clearly jumped the start
you go when the flag drops not when its raised
Poorly edited and narrated.
typical Ford driver
Am a Ferrari fan the others cars and not a Ford.
Am a Ferrari fan the others cars and not a Ford.