Wolf Avenging a Drowning Visits Woman's House on Halloween Night | Michael Dennis Case Analysis

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
  • This video answers the question: Can I analyze case of William Michael Dennis?
    Support Dr. Grande on Patreon: / drgrande
    Subscribe to the Bella Grande Media Podcast: / @bellagrandemedia
    Dr. Grande’s book Harm Reduction:
    www.amazon.com...
    Dr. Grande's book Psychology of Notorious Serial Killers: www.amazon.com...
    Check out Dr. Grande’s merchandise at: teespring.com/...
    References:
    caselaw.findla...
    casetext.com/c...

ความคิดเห็น • 844

  • @Snakesnarl
    @Snakesnarl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +404

    Wow she let her dog AND her kid drown in the pool

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      On purpose. Michael was on to her.

    • @morticiaheisenberg9679
      @morticiaheisenberg9679 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She's a monster, and kept breeding more.

    • @TiffWaffles
      @TiffWaffles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Negligence was definitely at play here. I get that there's going to be times where a parent will temporarily lose sight of their child who is in their care. However, I feel that in Doreen's care she was so distracted that she wasn't keeping a close eye on him whatsoever. Michael's suspicions definitely could have been right if there was a history where Doreen has been neglectful. If she harboured any resentment towards him and Paul then I can definitely see where he believes that Doreen intentionally killed the son they shared.
      Without much proof though, I can't say for sure. Tragic accidents do happen. A parent becomes distracted or they aren't feeling very good, and then suddenly the child gets into something or they leave the house and they get injured or die as a result. At the same time, we can't exactly dismiss the feelings of the father who had to suffer through the loss of somebody so precious.

    • @kina18
      @kina18 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      It would be easier for her sign away her parental rights and to just give him complete custody of Paul. That would remove both of them from her life. I'm sure he would have agreed to move away with Paul so she could just pretend they didn't exist.

    • @bobbibacha
      @bobbibacha 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The ole desire for alcohol alibi ……lol

  • @witchofthewildwoods3496
    @witchofthewildwoods3496 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +153

    This happened in my neighborhood. One of the responding paramedics related gruesome details about the scene to my friend the next morning that weren’t reported in the news. As horrific as the crime was, I’ve always felt sorry for Michael Dennis and can imagine the brewing rage and blame that must have driven him to it. It’s no excuse for murder but I can understand his pain.

    • @KenFullman
      @KenFullman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      His suspicions may have even been correct.

    • @chainadoll
      @chainadoll 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I’m glad I’m not the only one. Totally understand his position.
      I also like when people comment who actually know the individuals, or live/lived where the crime happened. Thx for sharing!

    • @jessicaellina3878
      @jessicaellina3878 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Agree. No excuse for his horrific crimes. Maybe he should have packed up and moved on. But his heart was broken after his son,s death, and he allowed his rage, grief and hatred towards Doreen to fester, until he had to kill her and her unborn child. A do feel some sympathy for him too.

  • @bobjones4469
    @bobjones4469 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +266

    When a man has nothing else to live for and nothing else to lose.

    • @mattkess3156
      @mattkess3156 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      No Beast is more Savage than man when possessed with power answerable to his rage.

    • @THE_CDN
      @THE_CDN 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@mattkess3156 Yep, Plutarch knew it way back then. Michael had every reason to go after his ex. Her negligence lead directly to the death or that poor boy. Plus, she cheated on Michael. However, I cannot condone the death of the fetus. Whether the attack cause the miscarriage or not, he had to know that she was pregnant (she was at 8 months).

    • @madsdee7803
      @madsdee7803 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@THE_CDN he didn't have custody of his son because he was not a good parent.

    • @THE_CDN
      @THE_CDN 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@madsdee7803 Incorrect. There is not even an accusation of that, let alone evidence. He chose to not dispute custody because he felt that his ex would do a better job parenting. Sadly, he couldn't have been more wrong. Nice try, misandrist.

    • @ChristelVinot
      @ChristelVinot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ... he wears a halloween themed shirt.
      a harsh judgement of dr grande but I feel you

  • @duvessa2003
    @duvessa2003 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    Very suspicious that Paul did not want to go home after outings with his father. I strongly suspect he was an outsider in the NEW FAMILY. His step father didn’t want him and may have made Doreen‘s life miserable because of it. She got rid of him either through negligence or through definitive action or non-action. “My Son may be drowning in the pool. Let me go over to the neighbor’s house because I can’t bear to find out. Oh look, he is drowning; let me proceed to not save him until I’m certain he can’t be revived.

    • @Andreamom001
      @Andreamom001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      That’s actually not very unusual. For a young child, the transition from home to home is stressful and they often express the desire to stay where they are. Also, the primary home is where the child has more rules and mundane tasks and experiences whereas the home the child visits is often the home of dun outings, less strict eating rules, and less of the boring, everyday stuff.
      I was pretty young when I realized my dad was the one to go to with requests for expensive items and fun experiences. My mom’s house was where I had school, homework, chores, etc.

    • @YTStoleMyUsername
      @YTStoleMyUsername 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@Andreamom001 Yeah, I don't think the fact he preferred going to his dad's indicates that he was being abused, was an outsider or was being neglected etc. As you said, it's just common that kids prefer to be with the parent that is less strict, is more fun, doesn't say no or take things away, or nag them to do chores or things they don't want to do.
      To the OP, the point Dr. Grande was making when Michael and people close to him said "Paul didn't want to go back home when he was with him" was Michael trying to prove he was a good father and that Doreen had a reason to be jealous of Michael, and a reason to want to get rid of Paul. He says she was having affairs and wants to cut off connection to Michael by killing Paul. Honestly that motive sounds a bit far fetched to me, but there's tons of even poorer motives out there for parents to kill their children. I only know what I've heard in this video but a lot of what was said about Michael's opinions, feelings, fears and delusions may not all be facts. And Paul's not here to tell everyone how he really felt either.

    • @Brandon-ex8ui
      @Brandon-ex8ui 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I agree with you, going to your neighbors to check on your son is gross negligence and required jail time. It was the 80s though. What Michael did was wrong, but I believe he was correct in his intuition.

    • @valjohnson1927
      @valjohnson1927 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Andreamom0017:17

  • @linkny2914
    @linkny2914 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +233

    I have a young son as well. I can’t even fathom the amount of rage Michael had after finding out how his son died.

    • @jamesbowman6925
      @jamesbowman6925 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I don't think Michael was delusional. I think Doreen deliberately set up a situation that would lead to Paul's death because she wanted Paul to die but wanted to be free of criminal liability. I would not be surprised if she instructed Paul to climb through the fence and climb into the pool. She might have even placed Paul in the pool.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and the circumstances..and after the lawsuit she had the temerity to demand the final child support payment.

    • @SporadicUploads1
      @SporadicUploads1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The community was wrong to forgive the woman that killed his son.

  • @mistrjt9213
    @mistrjt9213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Michael wasn’t delusional. He was grieving and depressed. He didn’t like Doreen in the first place. He super didn’t like Doreen after “she killed Paul”. Michael had no wife and now no child. The courts failed him. I’m sure he was super depressed. He had nothing to live for so he did what he done did. Didn’t matter if there was a ton of evidence pointing directly at him. He had one mission-eliminate Doreen at *any* cost.

  • @loiskondo8349
    @loiskondo8349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +288

    Such a sad case, Michael didn’t know how to handle his son dying. Those poor babies who died. That whole family suffered. Thank you for covering this tragedy Dr. Grande

    • @mistrjt9213
      @mistrjt9213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I feel like Michael wasn’t delusional. He was grieving. He didn’t like Doreen in the first place. He super didn’t like Doreen after “she killed Paul”. Michael had no wife and now no child. The courts failed him. I’m sure he was super depressed. He had nothing to live for so he did what he done did. Didn’t matter if there was a ton of evidence pointing directly at him. He had one mission-eliminate Doreen at *any* cost.

    • @johnro8ot
      @johnro8ot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      What family was hurt? There was no family once the kid died except a “mother” with disgusting personal relationship standards and a guy who was heartbroken multiple times over.

    • @giabarrone7422
      @giabarrone7422 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The family of the murdered woman/baby? Dr. G speaks about them in detail…..

    • @BrandonKratz-ey5qd
      @BrandonKratz-ey5qd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That shirt is atrocious. 😡😠🤬

    • @gregorywilliams8263
      @gregorywilliams8263 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He handled it and I’m sure he okay with his decision

  • @HolyMoly432
    @HolyMoly432 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +188

    I can’t imagine not running to that pool first thing. Going to the neighbor’s??? After her puppy had drowned - who probably was able to dog paddle around for a bit. OMG she sealed his fate. 💔

    • @gertrudemilhouse5626
      @gertrudemilhouse5626 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Based upon that alone, she should have been found liable 4 his death!

    • @jamesbowman6925
      @jamesbowman6925 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@gertrudemilhouse5626 I think she killed Paul deliberately and might have placed Paul in the pool herself-perhaps even held him under.

    • @spackar2720
      @spackar2720 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      No able-bodied mother who is properly attached to and genuinely loves her child would go to a neighbor to ask him to check her pool because she suspects that her son may be drowning. Every second counts prior to removing a drowning victim from the water.

    • @LLS710
      @LLS710 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      and she also sealed her own fate

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      on purpose..I think she saw him there and let it happen

  • @skepticusmaximus184
    @skepticusmaximus184 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    "By putting on a mask, he revealed his true nature."
    Damn Dr. G, that's *deep.*

  • @Casinogirl56
    @Casinogirl56 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    Halloween shirt AND a Halloween background? Dr Grande, you're way too good to us. Thanks for the great content once again.

    • @janecoe9407
      @janecoe9407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      THAT SHIRT! LOL~

    • @mindyabiznesspeople
      @mindyabiznesspeople 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That shirts’ badass!!?

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm surprised he didn't wear a wolf mask.

  • @Relaxinghypnoasmr
    @Relaxinghypnoasmr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    That poor little girl Deanna hiding and hearing all of that happening. I can't imagine how scared she was after that

  • @littlespinycactus
    @littlespinycactus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Hard to wrap one's head around such a tragic tale. Thankfully, your fab pumkin shirt and the cheery seasonal additions to your decor saved me from falling into a fit of the dismals. Very taken with those cactus candle lights, which I covet more than somewhat.

  • @matthew.m.stevick
    @matthew.m.stevick 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Dude the drowning revenge plans with body bags and weights and maps. 😮 holy cow that got me

  • @richardmcquade9832
    @richardmcquade9832 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Red Flag #1: Dorrine married just a few months after meeting Michael. They soon divorced and she remarried shortly thereafter. She had several children due to these relationships. Didn't look good for the future of the children. Unfortunately, the fenceless fence almost insured the tragedy of a child being drowned, especially since a puppy was previously found in the pool

  • @ds7900
    @ds7900 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    I feel bad for Paul, the unborn baby, and the puppy.😢

    • @CameronInEgyptsLand
      @CameronInEgyptsLand 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      And the little girl, Deanna (sp?). I hope she has found peace somehow. Victims of circumstance unfortunately.

    • @ds7900
      @ds7900 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@CameronInEgyptsLand oh yes. Thanks Melissa. 👍🏻

    • @develyntwocentshenderson5739
      @develyntwocentshenderson5739 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      sounds like michael was missing a few screws to begin with. and you reinforce pools. more than what mommy dear did. and there are also now pet floats so pets can pull themselves out.

    • @mobilegameplaywalkthroughs990
      @mobilegameplaywalkthroughs990 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can just imagine how often Charles is making alcohol runs in the years afterward.

    • @LLS710
      @LLS710 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      thanks for remembering the poor pup

  • @Leah_Olson
    @Leah_Olson 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +163

    Its too bad Paul couldn't have just stayed with his father. What a horrible tragedy. The death of his son drove him over the edge sadly.

    • @deborahblackvideoediting8697
      @deborahblackvideoediting8697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I was thinking the same thing. The mother's behaviour in regards to Paul's death was beyond reckless. If she truly didn't want him, why didn't she just hand him over to Michael and then focus on her new family? So very sad.

    • @julesvern-u4e
      @julesvern-u4e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@deborahblackvideoediting8697 to punish Michael

    • @deborahblackvideoediting8697
      @deborahblackvideoediting8697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@julesvern-u4e - So incredibly awful when a parent hates their ex more than they love their child. Poor Paul.

    • @johnro8ot
      @johnro8ot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@deborahblackvideoediting8697you should look up the various statistics on the absurd vindictiveness women have in divorce and cheating situations

    • @shyamalareciuga6838
      @shyamalareciuga6838 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Glad the general public still have a functioning moral compass as most comments to this story indicate.

  • @tracyking5945
    @tracyking5945 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Thank you Dr. Grande for reminding us that putting on a mask of anger usually just hides the presence of deeper and less comfortable emotions like sadness, guilt, shame, hurt and fear.

    • @claudinejames7731
      @claudinejames7731 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This is so often the case with us humans.

    • @notmychelle
      @notmychelle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My takeaway from this as well. A very tragic story

    • @error404idnotfound3
      @error404idnotfound3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yep. “Hate is a place where a man who can’t stand sadness goes”-Godo

  • @GigiRulesTheRoost
    @GigiRulesTheRoost 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Poor little Paul and the little baby cut out of Doreen's womb and killed. What horror.

    • @leannemo7382
      @leannemo7382 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Cut out? 😳 Dr. Grande and other sources don’t state such a thing. Doreen was close to her delivery date, so perhaps she spontaneously aborted due to the intense physical trauma. Even the new husband thought she miscarried based on what he viewed. Presumably, and without getting too graphic, the baby may have been lying just outside the vaginal canal (cord intact).

  • @Jessrenee294
    @Jessrenee294 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I love the Halloween 🎃 shirt!

  • @Dawn-f7g
    @Dawn-f7g 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    So sad. We all regret our parenting mistakes. Intentionally neglecting to protect Paul with an adequate pool fence is definitely gross negligence and not what most loving parents would do. Grateful to GOD that my children all made it to adulthood in spite of my many parenting failures.❤

    • @Sinailionspride
      @Sinailionspride 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is authentic and comforting.

  • @michaelperez9966
    @michaelperez9966 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

    I can’t blame Michael. Dorene’s carelessness caused the death of their son, then she acted like an asshole about it. She also cheated on Michael. Dorene was a horrible person, and causing their son’s death was the final straw for Michael.

    • @tnttim9
      @tnttim9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      And she compounded it with her heartlessness. A little compassions may have saved her a gruesome death.

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Agree

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@tnttim9agree

    • @michaelperez9966
      @michaelperez9966 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      @@tnttim9I agree, but on top of Dorene’s attitude, she also made minimal effort to save Paul. Paul died three days later, but might have survived had Dorene not procrastinated in checking the pool.

    • @ainorey882
      @ainorey882 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I wouldn't go as far as to say "can't blame Michael" what happened to his son was absolutely tragic and preventable, but because of the actions he decided to take one more innocent child lost it's life and one child was left without her mother.

  • @velvetbees
    @velvetbees 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    How can a mother be so careless about the swimming pool? Michael saw the potential for drowning. It does not excuse murder, but it was a factor in the child's death. Also, my own personal thought is those jobs back then using sprayers to paint or add some other kind of coating to airplanes were dangerous due to toxins. A mask only goes so far. It is possible he also suffered from brain damage from toxins.

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      No no it was intentional. She killed her son Paul. Not carelessness. Why would she go to the neighbor to get help? It was a plan so she can have witnesses. The pup drowning was a set up so she can then drown her own son. She was vicious and evil and no I’m not trying to say she deserved to die like this she’s a victim. But, an eye for an eye

    • @katc2040
      @katc2040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Honestly, the only issues I have with his crime is that the child was present, and Charles could've been possibly falsely imprisoned.

    • @katc2040
      @katc2040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I assumed Dolores was a child, but maybe she was not

    • @paulf2529
      @paulf2529 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think you are right regarding the fumes.

    • @velvetbees
      @velvetbees 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@preciousgem6506Anything is possible. That could be a plot for a fictional crime novel. Authors do extrapolate from real cases.

  • @precollegeenglish
    @precollegeenglish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    To Michael, Paul wasn't just a son; he was his only remaining connection to the best version of him. A version he had struggled all his life to reach, given his rough childhood and hearing impairment, and one he probably knew he wouldn't be able to establish once more. Michael considered his son, Paul, to be his best friend too. A friend whom he'd fantasied will be there for him in his dotage. I feel sorry for him despite his heinous offense. Sometimes the simplest of minds orchestrates the most brutal reactions to their self agonies. RIP Paul.

    • @ItsKrma00
      @ItsKrma00 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He hacked a pregnant woman to death with a machete in front of her young child.

    • @madsdee7803
      @madsdee7803 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Excuses excuses. He lived with his mother and was an unemployed bum while they were together too. When men think little boys are themselves it's sick. He planned to kill everyone of them and I have no sympathy for a sociopath who used everyone around him including his mother.

  • @IsoLight765
    @IsoLight765 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    What a tragedy, maybe it could even have been prevented if she would have been held accountable for Paul's death, but who knows? Either way he hacked to death a pregnant woman in front of her daughter with a machete. I am not sure how anyone can be on "his side" just because he had an understandable motive. Regardless of the motive, what he did was barbaric and I highly doubt that having his father murder his mother and go to prison for it was what Paul would have wanted for his parents.

  • @1xoACEox1
    @1xoACEox1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    "No kidding" might be the second worse response to finding out your ex wife is dead. OJs " who killed her" being the first.

    • @christophertaylor4340
      @christophertaylor4340 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😅😅. You actually pity that vile witch. Misplaced empathy 🤡

    • @A_Amazi
      @A_Amazi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “Your kidding” vs no kidding.. like he was pretending to be in disbelief of the outrageous news

    • @A_Amazi
      @A_Amazi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re*

  • @rullvox5912
    @rullvox5912 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Thank you, Dr. Grande. I remember this case but had forgotten the details of it. I hope the little girl was able to get the help she needed after the murder of her mom, she had to have heard everything while she was hiding.

    • @krisaaron8180
      @krisaaron8180 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nobody wants to mention her little girl, I'm glad you did. I'm not sure what "help" is going to be adequate for a child who heard her mother being murdered.

    • @YTStoleMyUsername
      @YTStoleMyUsername 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thank you for showing concern for the victim who deserves it. So many are on Michael's side, upset because they want to point fingers at Doreen for Paul's death, but in their eagerness they forget the living innocent victim - Deanna.

    • @statementleaver8095
      @statementleaver8095 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A Sofa is in plain sight Deanna was of Innocence just like Paul.
      Michael being a Father knew this.....Revenge is directly linked to a Sole person = Doreen
      Divorced and Married in the same Year.....Suspicious behaviour 100%

    • @leannemo7382
      @leannemo7382 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@YTStoleMyUsername However, many people here can do both-feel for Michael AND Deanna. 😢

    • @rezamotori5709
      @rezamotori5709 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You remember a case from 1984????

  • @ianpeddle6818
    @ianpeddle6818 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

    Poor guy. clearly the mother was negligent and had no care about the impact of losing his son. Sorry my sympathy is with Michael - I know I will be shot down but for some life becomes too unbearable

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I agree with you…Doreen killed this child because of Michael. She was sadistic malicious and evil. She killed the pup first though and then proceeded with her plan and erase Michael from her life. Little did she know he entered her life

    • @deborahblackvideoediting8697
      @deborahblackvideoediting8697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      I felt bad for her at first. But after hearing that she had a poorly made fence around the pool, already had a puppy drown there, ran to the neighbour's instead of the pool, and never bothered to pull Paul out??!! It doesn't sound like an accidental death to me. I don't have a lot of pity for her. However, I feel immensely sad for her baby, and her poor daughter who had to listen to her mother being murdered.

    • @mofogie
      @mofogie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      They're both in the wrong. Doreen deserved to pay but Michael shouldn't have killed her when pregnant.

    • @Kc-dq7zj
      @Kc-dq7zj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're insane. You feel sympathy for a murder?! Gross.

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@deborahblackvideoediting8697how any mother could see their child floating in a pool and NOT jump in to try and save them is, to me, a clear sign she didn’t care. Sure everyone reacts to chaos differently BUT this is your child. Your cells, your dna, your essence. There is no way I even let my toddler out of my sight for 10 seconds - and if our dog drowned in the pool I’d sure as sht not have any way my child could get anywhere near it.

  • @goatgirl5968
    @goatgirl5968 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Hi Dr Grande, have you ever looked into the case of Mike Bollinger? I would love to know if you think he escaped or died in the wilderness. One of his victims was my coworker so this bothers me a lot.

  • @milissaellan6805
    @milissaellan6805 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    He didn’t contest the custody arrangement because he thought his son would be safe.
    My heart is so broken for them all. 💔

  • @robertgiles9124
    @robertgiles9124 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    She sent the neighbor to check the Pool? She asked for the Last Child Support Payment? She drowned that boy. And her new Hubby? How drunk do you need to be to slip and slide on the Blood of your wife?

    • @mynameispeaches
      @mynameispeaches 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If I'm the neighbor I probably would not have immediately gone over there. What a strange request. Plus she seems like someone I wouldn't even like or trust. So that's just more time wasted as I'm trying to determine what the hell she is getting me into.

    • @rowanrobbins
      @rowanrobbins 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Any one can slip in blood, for gosh sake. And he was panicked. Think about what he saw that night. What a ridiculous thing to think, he wouldn't slip in the blood if he was sober? No one said he was drunk, either.

    • @robertgiles9124
      @robertgiles9124 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You sound like you might have some experience in murder scenes. I will just take your word for it, unless you are also drunk like he was @@rowanrobbins

    • @robertgiles9124
      @robertgiles9124 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      drunk as a skunk@@rowanrobbins

    • @dubaiedge
      @dubaiedge 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rowanrobbins yeah, people don't realize how slippery blood is. It's way worse that water.

  • @tod3msn
    @tod3msn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Another lesson lurking beneath the surface is bitterness and how it will consume you to the point of sheer madness. While this case is 35 years old the lessons remain timeless in that by harboring hate in his heart the vengeful father committed an act so heinous that it violates the foundation of all spiritual teachings and is the number one commandment “thou shalt not kill.” Michael, if still living, now had sat in a cell removed from society for decades because he was consumed with bitter thoughts and feelings. It doesn’t have to be this way. There was a better way but that’s the tricky part because it requires not being bitter and not blaming others. In the end, we are far better off forgiving ourselves and others because it’s all you can do sometimes.

  • @Katch.22
    @Katch.22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    😟 the young girl was hiding while... oh no... Rest In Peace to that the young boy Paul, the Mother & unborn.. how truly horrific.

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Really sad case, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
    Great Halloween decorations! Happy Halloween, Dr. Grande!👻🍂🎃🍁

  • @SquidandCatAdventures
    @SquidandCatAdventures 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    He also killed a little girl's mom in front of that little girl (being behind a couch is not going to stop the trauma). I get that people are interested in an in-depth picture of what happened, but there's a little too much sympathy for him for my comfort. She was likely just negligent and not murderous - there's a good chance she didn't kill her own son on purpose. She had built a fence and may not have understood it was inadequate; While he fantasized about killing her and wound up slicing her unborn child out of her with a machete, chopped off her hand and did it fully aware that her young daughter was in the room. It's sad that Halloween trick or treating can be used to commit violent acts and is potentially unsafe. But I guess I would look before opening the door to a single man in a wolf mask.

    • @Joe-qm4yv
      @Joe-qm4yv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How can you explain all her other callous behavior if she didn’t do it on purpose? Either way she seemed like an awful person

  • @mahboopful
    @mahboopful 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    An actual Halloween Horror story.

  • @ThefamousMrcroissant
    @ThefamousMrcroissant 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "It was when he put on the mask that he revealed his true face" is a beautiful line.
    Really sad case. Divorces are an incredibly scary concept for people who don't know how to handle it amicably. My aunt threw in a window at my uncle and tried to sabotage his new wedding arrangements. It's unbelievable how far some will go to sate the anger they feel to their former partner.

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Agree with your analysis & reasoning, how diagnosis is difficult. His throwing knife 🗡 in air story was ridiculous🙄🎃 Thanks Dr G😊💕💕

  • @zhugeliang2214
    @zhugeliang2214 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    I think Michael was legitimately insane during the crime. Poor guy.

    • @RHCPpleasestandup
      @RHCPpleasestandup 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Clearly he wasn't if he had the wherewithal to come up with 23 different versions of his story as Dr Grande pointed out

    • @katc2040
      @katc2040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@RHCPpleasestandup police questioning a mentally ill person, I wonder why he'd come up with a bunch of stories

    • @katc2040
      @katc2040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@RHCPpleasestandup they also arrested the first person they saw covered in blood before questioning the witness

    • @rodolfoerdogan4983
      @rodolfoerdogan4983 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@RHCPpleasestandupyour point is not valid. You claimed that because he came up with 23 versions of what happened this means that he was competent. When this could just as easily be evidence that he was incompetent.

    • @shitmandood
      @shitmandood 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Insane? You mean angry drunkard.

  • @WorldOfEnchantment44
    @WorldOfEnchantment44 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    You are spot on. He killed her BECAUSE she was pregnant. He absolutely wanted her to feel a loss like he did. I can almost guarantee he cut that baby out of her before she died so she had to see who she was losing before succumbing herself.

    • @duvessa2003
      @duvessa2003 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      If he had cut the baby out of her, I think Dr. Grande would’ve said so. Perhaps the attack caused the baby to abort(?) I also think if he had cut the baby out of her there’s no way he would have said that he didn’t know she was pregnant. I think I’ll look this up now.

    • @IknowAxo_object
      @IknowAxo_object 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The reports I read said he cut it out and cut off a foot from it.​@@duvessa2003

  • @joanieaddesa5434
    @joanieaddesa5434 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    loseing a child has caused many people to not be quite right afterwards. I had a friend that lost her 2 yr. old the same way. She wasn't quite right after. she went to the cementary with gifts frequently. Held it against her husband when he did not.
    In this case I think he really thought she was guilty. But no matter what the situation he took 2 life's that night. He should pay for his crimes.

    • @Tryp-j9d
      @Tryp-j9d หลายเดือนก่อน

      loseing? DUMBBELL!!

    • @NickanM
      @NickanM 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have lost 2 of my sisters, one 2 years old (liver disease) and the other one deleted herself at age 37. My parents have never been the same, and it got worse after the second death. 😢

    • @NickanM
      @NickanM 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Tryp-j9d
      The dumbbell here is you.

    • @Tryp-j9d
      @Tryp-j9d 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NickanM ONLY an IMBECILE can’t spell LOSING!!!

  • @straat9066
    @straat9066 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Can’t say that I blame the guy. People who endanger your children give you an animalistic rage that can’t be explained only felt first hand. A damn shame for everyone involved. I hope they all find peace.

  • @Hellblazer302
    @Hellblazer302 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This only shows that traumatic experiences are the root of being a furry.

    • @JocieFire
      @JocieFire 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @s.succotash
    @s.succotash 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The scariest stories are the real stories.

  • @joan-lisa-smith
    @joan-lisa-smith 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oh your wife's decorating is extending past the foyer and shelves to your little set up, or she's rubbing off on you now. Either way the theme is nice, hope you do others ones as they come up too.

  • @jaybuffie9624
    @jaybuffie9624 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Looks and sounds to me like he did everything he could think of to protect the boy while outside of his control. Then, he loses the court case against her for causing/allowing his worst fears to come true. Meanwhile, he's devastated while they're living a typical life, so yeah, I see where his reasoning and actions come from. However, where we disconnect is when he decided to act on the rage, because in so doing, he taught his ex nothing, because she died, and she can't feel the loss he felt, because she's dead, but also, he took a mother from her daughter. That should've been the thought that cooled down the rage. Sure, we can understand his anger towards his ex, but to not consider the other child and how it would impact her is what pushes it over the edge for me. I'm not saying she deserved to die, or that he was justified if kids weren't involved, but in this case, there was a definitive reason to withhold his rage outside of the focus of his rage. Of all the wrongdoing, and potential guilt on her part, he should've understood the pain he was about to unleash on that poor, innocent child for the rest of her life. The daughter was the most innocent victim in his act of murder.

    • @katc2040
      @katc2040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have to agree

    • @JocieFire
      @JocieFire 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Plus focusing on revenge destroys your own life, even if there were no innocent children involved.

    • @jaybuffie9624
      @jaybuffie9624 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JocieFire Anger is always a double-edged sword.

  • @carrie79
    @carrie79 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I absolutely love the Halloween themed stuff

  • @SinclairPoppins
    @SinclairPoppins 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Doreen does sound like a bad person

  • @preciousgem6506
    @preciousgem6506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +266

    I believe this woman was a killer. Who’s with me? She killed pup first to have an alibi and then proceed with her son’s murder. I believe it! Even Dr. D insinuated this.

    • @markmike7933
      @markmike7933 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Wow, I never thought of that. She was a frigging sociopath. To heck with her. But she was pregnant....so not to heck with her :( He shouldn't have done it, period. but he really shouldn't have done it while she was pregnant .
      But YES, it is hard to feel bad for her.

    • @julesvern-u4e
      @julesvern-u4e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      feel bad for that unborn baby but not that woman

    • @preciousgem6506
      @preciousgem6506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@markmike7933 yes true they were victims, but Dr. D did say Michael didn’t know she was pregnant and if he knew this he wouldn’t have killed her. But who knows if he reality meant it

    • @EvolvementEras
      @EvolvementEras 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      She’s was definitely responsible for keeping her child safe, but murder is excessive.

    • @EvolvementEras
      @EvolvementEras 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@preciousgem6506fuck that she was eight months pregnant! There is no way he didn’t SEE that!

  • @billkarschmidt3438
    @billkarschmidt3438 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The liquor store receipt ensures the husband to claim"his wanting alchohol actually led to something positive!!"....dr. Grande you made my day once again!! Love the shirt!...it shows me that your not ALL business

  • @bradleytwilson99
    @bradleytwilson99 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Very sad and troubling case. But on a lighter note, has anyone else noticed that Dr. Grande sure doesn't like alcohol?

    • @mattkess3156
      @mattkess3156 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Dr Grande strikes me as a man who likes a nice G&T or Bordeaux when the times is right. As he said in the video, it’s the desire for alcohol that he seems to resent, and rightfully so. Saying this as someone who unfortunately indulges in the Grande cardinal sin. Thank god we like the same style of flesh tearing puns

    • @sanepillow59
      @sanepillow59 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattkess3156 Dr does have wine geek vibes

  • @MEL2theJ
    @MEL2theJ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    He served up that vengeance 😬 Yikes!
    Thank you again Dr. Grande 🙏
    Another great analysis

  • @dissidentfairy4264
    @dissidentfairy4264 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    What a horrific story! Michael had my sympathy up until the gruesome murder part of the story. He was a victim who turned himself into a monstrous perpetrator. What he did to her and her unborn child is unconscionable! He wasn't even that smart. Did he really think he could wear the same Halloween mask from the previous year and get away with it? If Doreen didn't want her son, (i don't believe that to be true), why wouldn't she just turn over custody to Michael? Was the income that important to her? This is a tragic story from every perspective. Actually, alcohol may have cost Doreen her life. If her husband had stayed home perhaps she would still be alive. 🧚‍♀

    • @kina18
      @kina18 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly. Her drowning him doesn't make sense when she could just give to his dad. She wouldn't get child support either way so that's not even an issue. Insurance money, maybe, but if she asked for the final child support it sounds like she probably needed it to pay on his funeral expenses. So probably no life insurance.

    • @leannemo7382
      @leannemo7382 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Michael wasn’t “smart” about it because he *no longer had anything left to lose.* He didn’t bother cleaning or covering up anything afterward. He was as broken as a man/father can get.

    • @dissidentfairy4264
      @dissidentfairy4264 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't care how broken he was, to slaughter an unborn baby is unforgivable! @@leannemo7382

    • @Joe-qm4yv
      @Joe-qm4yv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Apparently the income was that important if she was fighting for it even after the child was deceased. She was an evil woman

  • @arielleswinkels982
    @arielleswinkels982 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That's a nice shirt, Dr Grande. Love your content.

  • @heatherbrenner8275
    @heatherbrenner8275 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Honestly I'm a little shocked by all the people in the comments sympathizing with michael. Killing his ex didn't bring his kid back. The baby she was pregnant with never hurt anybody.

  • @meganfox8729
    @meganfox8729 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    ❤@Dr. Grande...your shirt and background are deliciously Spooktacular!!!

  • @Laggu
    @Laggu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Dorene not finding the missing child as a priority is so sad. Micheal was definitely robbed of everything and I can't belive his lawsuit failed. There's probably more we don't know about him but wow, that'd send me over the edge too.

    • @YTStoleMyUsername
      @YTStoleMyUsername 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Please read the actual case on Findlaw. The man had mental health issues and he disemboweled an unborn fetus. That is not how you handle grief, job loss, and a divorce. Most people find other, non-murder ways to cope.
      Doreen was not found guilty of killing her child (or even manslaughter), and the judge denied Michael's wrongful death suit for good reason. Accidents happen, & they can be absolutely devastating. Murder is intentional, and there were many other ways he could've worked with her to come to a resolution that didn't end up in torture and death. I can't understand how so many seem to think he had a valid motive for such an atrocious act.

    • @leannemo7382
      @leannemo7382 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@YTStoleMyUsername Are you the official Doreen apologist? 🙄

    • @leannemo7382
      @leannemo7382 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@YTStoleMyUsername Most loving mothers would NOT leave their child in a pool, to then have a neighbor come have a “look-see” before fishing him out. 🤨 Get real. Doreen sounds monstrous too.

  • @johnnyrook6371
    @johnnyrook6371 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don't think he would have murdered if his lawsuit had succeeded. He felt the court denied him justice; therefore, he felt becoming a vigilante was a viable option.

  • @The_Red_Pill__
    @The_Red_Pill__ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a sad case. I wish the dad would have been able to get custody. Did he ever try? I don’t think the mom killed him on purpose; if she didn’t want the child, she could have easily given him to the dad. I don’t think it was ever a thought. I think she loved her son, but was negligent. I would need to hear more corroborating evidence of willful negligence that happened prior to this event. I would also need to see the pool, the fence that was put in, etc. to form an opinion about that one way, or the other. If it were my pool, and my dog died in it, I would get rid of it, or turn it into a planter. I do think it’s a horrible accident and I think it was due to her negligence. My deepest sympathy for all, but especially the boy, and the little girl who lost her brother and then witnessed the murder of her mother.

  • @dogvoter9973
    @dogvoter9973 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Cant say i have much sympathy for Doreen. She seems as caring as a fly, but her poor daughter. She lost her 2 siblings and a mom

  • @michaelgreer9023
    @michaelgreer9023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Very Entertaining😅
    I never fail to admire the way Dr. Grande's narratives build character from the ground up. First, we are informed that Mr. Dennis was born "around" 1950. Odd. In his early life he experienced hearing loss which resulted in having to use hearing aids. This, of course, led to "bullying." Already the identity of another victim of bad circumstances is being created for our enjoyment. On top of that, perhaps innocently, perhaps maliciously, teachers labeled him "disabled."
    This toxic mix results in "depression" because this combination of circumstances leads to longing for an unattainable girlfriend. 😩 Now he adds a dash of "divorce" which makes the attentive viewer feel ever more deeply the pain and loss of Mr. Dennis.
    Next, but not last, Mr. Dennis needed to bear the burden of losing his son in a swimming pool drowning. When the case went to trial for negligence in the care of a child, the not guilty verdict devastated Michael. It was, so to speak, the final blow of fate. Now he was on course for murder. A four dollar an hour cut in wages tempted him to take extreme measures to resist fate's downward direction. But like all things earthly, what is built from the ground up must eventually be destroyed by the force of immoral gravity. Thank you.

  • @euchiron
    @euchiron 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    How she wasn't found guilty of wrongful death is baffling

    • @TygR3
      @TygR3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She's a woman, so it's assumed she didn't have malicious intent, unlike a man who has to prove he wasn't careless

    • @Joe-qm4yv
      @Joe-qm4yv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Easy it’s a woman . Look at the comments clearly trying to paint her as some misunderstood angel

  • @Flamsterette
    @Flamsterette 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande! October 24 is the Feast of Good and Plenty, World Tripe Day (gotta have my ginger and green onion tripe later with MY NOODLES!), Take Back Your Time Day, National Crazy Day, World Polio Day, United Nations Day, National Bologna Day, Black Thursday, and National Food Day.

    • @tracybeeeee
      @tracybeeeee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Black Thursday 🤣

    • @Flamsterette
      @Flamsterette 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tracybeeeee Go look it up.

  • @ghadamamdouheskarous
    @ghadamamdouheskarous 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The american justice system is a mess

  • @courtneyremarks1133
    @courtneyremarks1133 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That is a fabulous shirt! 😊

  • @Whitericeinmysalad
    @Whitericeinmysalad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    How incredibly sad. Losing a child is unbearable. 😢 I personally have not lost a child and I thank God for that. My sister and my best friend have and their pain was overwhelming. 😢😢

    • @Flamsterette
      @Flamsterette 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      *LOSING *OVERWHELMING
      LOOSING a child means that you have set the kid free. BAD SPELLING.

    • @yahnservices1978
      @yahnservices1978 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Michael avenged his son's d**th.

    • @moonchild7542
      @moonchild7542 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@Flamsterette, hey Grammer police, thank God you corrected her spelling because I don't think I could survive if you didn't and I'm sure her and everyone else feels the same way.

    • @Flamsterette
      @Flamsterette 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@moonchild7542 *GRAMMAR

    • @Flamsterette
      @Flamsterette 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@yahnservices1978 You can say DEATH online. 😂🙄

  • @steph7738
    @steph7738 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Dr Grande, please do more scary/“hauntings”!
    🌵 👓 🎃

  • @Theohybrid
    @Theohybrid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Makes sense. Doreen sounds like a trash person but Micheal was also very troubled given the death of his son and his suffering circumstances.

  • @pleaseclap5210
    @pleaseclap5210 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Grief is a powerful thing, there are many normal people that would do the same thing

    • @shitmandood
      @shitmandood 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They might first ask the question: can I spend life in prison without parole? I think that’s usually enough to keep their violent thoughts kept in their heads. Ppl value their freedom.

    • @deborahblackvideoediting8697
      @deborahblackvideoediting8697 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@shitmandood - I think the poor guy was way too far gone to even care about prison. He wanted revenge for the death of his son. He may not have wanted to go to prison, but I think the trade-off was worth it to him.

    • @HimanshuGupta-nt6kl
      @HimanshuGupta-nt6kl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@shitmandoodSpoken like someone who perhaps hasn't experienced devastating grief yet.

    • @rumchata6569
      @rumchata6569 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shitmandoodif they valued their freedom that much they would be patient and methodical. Doing everything to inflict the most pain and secure their freedom

    • @David_____
      @David_____ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed!

  • @SLowe-xi3fq
    @SLowe-xi3fq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    maybe paul reminded doreen of michael.

    • @BunnySlippers82
      @BunnySlippers82 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is strange that Doreen didn't go look in the pool and instead wasted precious minutes going next door. It's possible that Michael felt completely discarded too.

  • @ogarzabello
    @ogarzabello 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Imagine going with a lot of anxiety and depression to a consultation with your psychological therapist and you see him wearing a Halloween shirt just like Dr. Grande is wearing 🤣

    • @jasmine0354
      @jasmine0354 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      🤣

    • @Caddy911
      @Caddy911 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lmao

    • @fayrefitness5416
      @fayrefitness5416 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol, I didn't notice. Went back to the video after reading your comment. Dr. Grande...😂 That's a loud shirt! 🤣

  • @lazykat8405
    @lazykat8405 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sometimes ppl/ mental health professionals try to explain away behaviours and sometimes it's very straightforward. He blamed the ex wife for the son's death (rightfully so, she was negligent) and then the dad could not handle the grief from losing his only son and the mom's callous behaviour afterwards (asking for child payment etc) and he decided to kill her. Not right, but simple

  • @StephanieJames-tv5ec
    @StephanieJames-tv5ec 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can understand why he did what he did. But he killed an innocent baby.

  • @empyreuma
    @empyreuma 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How did a 1982 jury decide Doreen & Charles were innocent of wrongful death?
    Or
    Manslaughter?
    Or
    Negligence at the very least?
    Pool fencing laws were quite lax, but the child drowned because the fence Doreen & Charles installed was inadequate & mainly because they were not supervising Paul
    Doreen & her unborn baby deserved to live
    but Paul definitely didn't deserve to die
    Doreen & Charles were not punished for Paul's death in their pool, maybe Doreen felt some sadness but life went on for her & she decided to have another child
    Michael probably deserves life in prison
    Terribly tragic events for everyone involved

  • @DavidDeeble
    @DavidDeeble 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Tragedy upon tragedy.

  • @michaelperez9966
    @michaelperez9966 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Trying to cover up your crime and knowing what you did was wrong are two different things. Covering up a crime only shows that a person knew what they did was illegal, but it doesn’t show that the person thought what they did was wrong. Michael could have killed Dorene thinking it was the right thing to do, but also didn’t want to go to prison.

    • @th3unmaker
      @th3unmaker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Unfortunately, though, i think the law only recognizes "right and wrong" as they are illuminated through laws. I. e., if it is illegal, it is wrong, and if it is legal, it is right.

    • @eustab.anas-mann9510
      @eustab.anas-mann9510 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@th3unmakerMaybe a legal expert reads what you wrote that can tell if what you suppose is right.

    • @evelynwaugh4053
      @evelynwaugh4053 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is a distinction without a difference. Not knowing the wrongfulness of a crime is the equivalent of illegality of the crime, which means that the individual is sufficiently disturbed by a serious mental illness that they are unable to appreciate reality. The law makes this exception for essentially psychotic individuals because they aren't seen as having mens rea, the requisite guilty mind. Their illness has made them unable to form intent. Wanting someone to suffer as they have made you suffer isn't insane. It's just old fashioned eye for an eye, and being willing to take the law into your own hands. He was obviously made miserable over his son's death, and the lack of accountability, but that is not something the law provides an exception for. Your idea is that we all have to agree that laws are right, or we are legally justified in enforcing our own version of justice, and obviously, that's anarchy.

  • @littleeva
    @littleeva 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How about this, Michael was just evil. He could have killed himself and be done with it, but he was a coward who killed a pregnant woman and her unborn child. That's just pure evil. Michael was pure evil. If he was THAT worried about his son drowning, why not teach him how to swim, or enroll him in swimming lessons, I've seen children as young as 18 months learn how to swim. Michael was just evil, evil, evil, period end of story.
    And the misogyny here is frightening.

  • @spinozareader
    @spinozareader 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Those are some Great Pumpkins, Dr. G.!!

  • @sopheadutch6350
    @sopheadutch6350 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Welp, this is by far my favorite analysis by Dr. Grande. I drowned when I was 7 yrs old but as I began to feel all the water flooded in my stomach, lungs,..etc I passed out but felt someone pulled my hair & another pushed me from bottom. Yes, I was saved. As you can see, Michael was actually a good father & if I was him, I would be ok sitting the cell & he spared that little girl's life. Also, I've met so many women with traits like Doreen all through my life, even now in 2023✅.🤷‍♀️

    • @giabarrone7422
      @giabarrone7422 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I nearly drowned too, but unlike Paul’s mother, mine decided to save my life when she saw me lifeless in the pool.

    • @emmagatewood3898
      @emmagatewood3898 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He didn't spare that little girl's life. Not on purpose, anyway... The daughter is now a grown woman, and she has told her story on several crime shows about this case. It's truly horrifying to hear... The little girl was watching TV with her mom when Micheal entered the house and began stabbing her mother. The girl hid behind the couch while her mother was being attacked, and heard all the awful sounds. Afterwards, Michael roamed the house looking for the little girl, calling out her name and telling her to come out. He didn't just leave after killing the Mom- he stuck around and spent some time actively hunting for the little girl. She could hear him opening doors and moving stuff around looking for her. Luckily he didn't find her, because he absolutely would have killed her if he did.

    • @sunnydelight5255
      @sunnydelight5255 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@emmagatewood3898Wow he really lost it. Avenging on the ex is one thing but no need to go after a child who has nothing to do with it. Sympathy goes after that.

  • @rheverend
    @rheverend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It’s vile that he would kill a pregnant woman and her baby, but I will say Doreen was kind of a pos. Had she not been pregnant when he killed her, I would sympathize more with Michael. Not saying she deserved it, but I do blame her for Paul’s death. I’d be violent too if someone’s negligence killed my son

    • @alicewunderlund
      @alicewunderlund 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed

    • @JocieFire
      @JocieFire 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      100%, but I think he should have stopped at the lawsuit, even if only for his own mental health. "Let God judge between me and thee, and reward thee according to thy deeds!"

  • @tod3msn
    @tod3msn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Michael lost his marriage and his son. He could not handle the loss. Doreen did not mean to have her son drown in their pool. This union was ill fated from the get go and so tragic.

  • @bluemethbunny
    @bluemethbunny 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Michael asked her to make that pond safer and she didn't. In my personal life, when dealing with day to day things, when I ask someone to do something to prevent further damage or loss of time and they don't do it, then it costs me or them further damage or loss, it is infuriating. Absolutely infuriating. Now to blow that minute feeling out from the river into the ocean, mix that with the loss of your only child. The rage within me would never die. On top of this, she did not try to save her child. I am disgusted with her and I believe she deserves prison. This sweet young boy was neglected, I am angry even thinking about it. One of the mental health professionals said that Michael is over reactive, what an easy thing to say about the man who lost his only child due to stupidity and lack of care. I have never ever read a case and felt for the killer over the victim, but she was a killer herself. An eye for an eye. Fucking horrible.

  • @georgeoh-well8116
    @georgeoh-well8116 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Crikey. Very sad what people are capable of doing to increase suffering during what is a very brief and possibly unique existence.

  • @MuhammadAdamGhamkoley
    @MuhammadAdamGhamkoley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Michael could have looked after his son himself. Rather than letting a woman he didn't trust care for him, and then becoming a baby killer himself when avenging her.

  • @moonshineblues204
    @moonshineblues204 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Allll Gore Ryythm! 💙 Just a comment to pay for my entertainment 💙💙 well, what a godawful story 🎃

  • @chayasorabella4581
    @chayasorabella4581 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Full stop. I love your shirt! Ok, carry on ❤

  • @LilLou97
    @LilLou97 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I mean for a woman who aided in the death of a puppy, I say her fate was sealed with her heartlessness towards an animal that had to suffer DROWNING.

  • @IknowAxo_object
    @IknowAxo_object 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He cut the baby from the womb and cut off a foot. He is a liar. He knew she was pregnant. I feel bad for Paul and the unborn child. I have mixed feelings about Doreen.

  • @trace9657
    @trace9657 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am only a little older than Paul would have been if he was alive today. The picture of him with that Trick or Treat bag really hits hard. It just makes me wonder why some of us survive to adulthood and some don't. I didn't have the exact bag, but it was similar, same size, mine was orange. I used it for several years. Trick or treating with the plastic pumpkins were the "new" thing according to my mother; I wanted one but it didn't happen. Clearly it doesn't matter, but i do wonder if Paul thought the same.

  • @manewland1
    @manewland1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm digging the Halloween theme, but this is an objectively horrible story from every possible angle. That said, I appreciate the description and analysis. Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande.

    • @LBdreamin
      @LBdreamin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dr. Grande can’t stop/won’t stop with that Halloween party shirt, and I’m here for it

  • @kathrynbrophy5793
    @kathrynbrophy5793 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish I could figure out how to send you some of my cactus 🌵 art and sculptures…if only there was a way. If only.

  • @paulabuck5976
    @paulabuck5976 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I ❤️ your shirt, Dr. Grande.

  • @adrienneallen194
    @adrienneallen194 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I gave this video a Like the second it started based solely on Dr. Grande's shirt 🎃 Now to enjoy the rest!

  • @KimberlyLetsGo
    @KimberlyLetsGo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's the children and unborn child that paid the ultimate cost. Horrible!!!

  • @jeffha4057
    @jeffha4057 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love the shirt 😍😍

  • @Surge_LaChance
    @Surge_LaChance 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Thanks for getting into the "spirit" of the season! 🎃👻🦇

  • @tamarrapetrie9345
    @tamarrapetrie9345 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Happy Halloween to you and your family Dr Grande! Your Halloween shirt is great!

  • @NathalieRenaud-sk2xe
    @NathalieRenaud-sk2xe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Please analyze Tim Ferriter please.. thank you Dr. Grande 😊

    • @tracybeeeee
      @tracybeeeee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He did? 5 days ago

  • @janinemccartha1811
    @janinemccartha1811 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Dr. Grande. Really am enjoying the halloween decorations. You guys did a jam up job with the creative style. The case was terrible, but the verdict was on target for the abusive husband. The mother should've given her son to him seeing that she wasn't taking proper care of him. Thanks for another interesting vid. Peace ☮️ , love, Janine Smiley🤩😗😘🙂😀😃😇Thanks Y'all & Happy Halloween!

  • @Comech64
    @Comech64 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I know this is messed up but i kinda get it... Doreen seemed ridiculously careless and irresponsible. I can't imagine if my childs mother was like her

  • @jeannineterese1037
    @jeannineterese1037 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    She had the audacity to get pregnant again after letting her kid drown?!