As someone who came from warhammer 40k and wanted to know what the Japanese are up to these days, I made multiple observations. 1. Oh by the gods it moves. 2. You don't even need to paint these. 3. You don't have to sell your organs to afford one of these. I think I'll pick one up. I kinda enjoy the design, even if I'm not into gundam.
@@kidrobot. has it already been two years since I posted this? Time flies. I know, I looked far more into gunpla after I fell out of love with warhammer. Still not an expert on the setting or anything, but I am addicted to eastern model kits now.
@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 sorry, i meant at the time you bought that, not in general, but yeah, they have advanced quite a long way since and cool, ive always wanted to try one of those, how is it? do you know about megami device and 30 minute sisters?
Late to the party, but I've been getting back into Gunpla after about a 30 year absence! This Z'Gok isn't good in terms of articulation and poseability, but IMHO the colours and the actual look of the model means that I for one will be seeking it out. Don't bring out the lynch mob, but doesn't the very nature of a marine MS mean that they are chunky and clunky and don't have the acrobatic prowess of a Shaolin Monk.. What's the crush depth on these things? These MS's are more akin to our present day Atmospheric Diving Suits I think.
Honestly I'd just spring for the old 1989 1/144 scale model of this. It's a significantly better model kit whose only crime is being a little limited articulation-wise.
well fun fact this suit was used in space as well along side geara dogas and it performed well it also has a cruise form which is it just tucking in its limbs for a more stream lined body and for transport…… i love this suit… its a shame bandai didnt do better with it i hope it gets a revive that fixes it
i just completed this kit. I was displeased by the design of the kit but i love the mobile suit. I painted mine and it looks very good now. posing is a no go but i still was pleased with the build overall
I love the Zgok E. The torso doesn’t sit straight, the arms had to be glued because they’d burst outward and are a hassle to reassemble, the front skirting isn’t symmetrical. But still. One of my favorite MS so it’s one of my favorite decorations.
Question: is it possible to replace the upper arms and legs on this kit with a production Z'Gok's upper arms and legs and/or take the forearms and forelegs and put them on a standard Z'Gok? Might make this kit salvageable.
Completely agree especially given the price point, they four year older Z'gok is a couple of hundred yen cheaper, and clearly the superior model. And I had the exact opposite problem with the arms on my build, they were so stiff, I chewed up the polycap moving them around.
I have one. Yeah pose this is hard but mine was ok for the arms at least. You won't be disapointed by the hy-gogg that's a cool kit and they look really nice together (plus it's one of the easyest kit to give a led mono-eye. It really gives him a bit of life)
I actually kind of like the orange cockpit. It doesn't look like a beaver tooth like on the original, which is probably my only real complaint about the regular Z'Gok. It's so clear they didn't give a damn. I like the way it looks, it someone put effort in, unlike Bandai, and tried to fix its flaws, but it'd be a lot of effort better spent on another kit, probably. If this was 1000 yen, it'd still be a crummy kit, but I could accept it easier. 1200 for this is crappier than Nemos being 1500 as far as paying more than it's really worth.
I think that the only reason this kit exists is to satisfy the major fans of War in the Pocket who want to complete their cyclops team collection with the Alex
awww..i just bought this kit last weekend to pair it with my hygogg..seems bandai didnt put enough effort to this one..really sad..and it would take few more decades to seethis one on REVIVE project..great review.
Design wise, I like this kit quite a bit. But the segmented parts are driving me crazy! I also agree on the articulation being limited...should of been like the original z'gok... ;-;
Personally I like clear pieces, because it is easier to add leds and I do not have to cut as much and it will be more accurate. I wish they would have more kits with clear mono eyes.
i built this guy last night and mine came out fine . but i do understand a bit where you're coming from. but also to be fair the way the arms and leg scales are shaped is why they're are on a rod.
crazy! I was just messing with my purple Zgok the day before to see if I could tighten up the arms. and found out it also doesn't work well on the action base either. sad face
Trust me the HY Gogg is a big improvement over the Zgok E and yes I bought the Zgok E and was disappointed by it. Would ever consider getting the Zee Zulu or the Zogok?
To each their own, I guess. Might buy the Experiment version, because of its design. Nothing against the normal Z'gok, but I much prefer the Experiment one.
I know it's dumb, but I kinda enjoy seeing the Z'gok fall apart after watching it wreck GMs in 0080. Sucks for those who like the design though. Hopefully it'll get a revive along with all the other 0080 MSs (please Bandai we want a GM Sniper II with a double jointed arm).
the Water combat MS models tend to be a bit under average particularly in general 0080 kits I think the Alex and GM Sniper 2 and Zaku II kai were the only ones they put effort into. its sad cause i wanted the Gelgoog Jagaer but i was disappointed to learn they did not improve it much from the old no grade I had aside from ball joints. and my friend Loves the Z'gok-E but now i dont want to even bothe getting him this if he can not enjoy it.
My one’s arm does not fall off easily and stays up quite well but then again my one has a blue Bandai logo on the box so it is released more recently and probably has an advantage over yours
I just got this even knowing you said it stunk and it stinks on ice. Those arms are a pain in the ass and are hard to pose. It’s also the only time panel lines bugged me.
thank god i waited for your review of this kit before i bought it. i like the suit but godamn that's a shitty kit. thanks kakarot for saving me from buyers remorse
I wouldn't say it sucks cause I like the design cause it looks cooler but there's really no bad kit just some takes some TLC to fully be what it could be
The arms fall off easily, posing is limited and doesn't work with an action base unless you drill a hole in this kit. I'm a 0080 fan so this kit was a must have but it needs work to make it look amazing.
Yeah, I tried... It's too wide between the legs for the 1/144 action base so you can't lock it in inside the hip joints. Definitely will need to drill a hole to get it on the base since it's an old HG without a plug.
I tried it. Was big enough but just barely. I'm sure it can be added to an action base 2 using this connection. These suits are meant to be on action bases with all the detail they have like the hygogg.
I bought this kit because i thought it looked cool and i love all zeon suits but i was quote disappointed with this kit for sure. But it does look cool!
The peg that holds the entire arm on the right side internally I ended up gluing, the scales I left alone but it did help and didnt do anything bad to the articulation.
the hy gogg is much better than z'gok E it have better articulation and every segmen of the arm can move like z'gok but with much articulation than z'gok and its damn cheap high grade that make me love it,with great articulation and great price its really great gunpla
It's quite unfair to use modern standard to judge this old kit. Z'Gok E was a decent kit back then. The arm segment was a design choice. There was no way Bandai could do individual movable segment unless they change Z'Gok E's arm design to something like Z'Gok's. The alternative choice to Z'Gok E's arm would be making all the segment into one piece which would have better stability and cost way less for Bandai but lose all the nice details.
+sageyou99 Unfair? Modern standard? I compared it to the original Z'gok, which is 4 years older(and much better). The Z'gok E was unimpressive even at the time of its release. Its arms are weaker than most of the 90's models.
+Kakarot197 Sorry , my bad. I somehow got that impression even though you were comparing Z'gok and Z'Gok E side by side. While the arms are weak and look awkward in dynamic poses, the thighs look great with all the individual segments. I also find the overall look of HGUC Z'Gok E unimpressive but bought the kit anyway because of the unique build of the legs and arms. Actually, I find most of HGUC 0080 kits to have some major flaws in their looks but that's just me.
i completely agree with you, i bought it to have the complete 0080 collection (the kampfer is the king of them) and is some kind of a cursed collection, every model has is flaws, the gms are mediocre, the Alex drives me mad, that fuking geelgoog... is more basic than a stick, At least i have that cool crab Hy-goog and the zaku and the big rick dom.
+perreterecon At least the gelgoog came with a cool rifle. What's the issue on the Kaempfer btw? I was always under the impression that it was a solid kit(then again, that's what I thought about THIS thing too)
+Kakarot197 The kampfer is quite solid, a few things could be better but they're not huge. But the zaku kai, rick dom II, kampfer, and Hy-gogg are the best of the line.
perreterecon Well of course the Kampfer is the best one I was just saying that the other ones I mentioned are pretty good as well. (especially the rick dom II because I really like my doms)
this is a kit you have to mod. no way acceptable out of the box as a snap-build. I was lucky to have pla-plate and rods to improve the articulation and scale pieces.
the hy gogg is much better than z'gok E it have better articulation and every segmen of the arm can move like z'gok but with much articulation than z'gok and its damn cheap high grade
Stop complaining. It's not good for you. Well this kit is not for everyone so don't expect a special quality, I think it's good enough and remember that gunpla is made to be improved by its modeler. Some people care about gunpla because the movie not only based on the model kit, so be grateful that bandai has made this kit even tough its not perfect and not "for everyone".
It's a review, so I have to point out both good and bad things. That way people get the full picture and can decide that a model isn't for them. Only praising a model is for Bandai's marketing department. Just being grateful that a model exists is a fanboyish attitude I'm not comfortable with if there are glaring flaws and it would disingenuous to boot.
the hy gogg is much better than z'gok E it have better articulation and every segmen of the arm can move like z'gok but with much articulation than z'gok and its damn cheap high grade that make me love it,with great articulation and great price its really great gunpla
the hy gogg is much better than z'gok E it have better articulation and every segmen of the arm can move like z'gok but with much articulation than z'gok and its damn cheap high grade that make me love it,with great articulation and great price its really great gunpla
As someone who came from warhammer 40k and wanted to know what the Japanese are up to these days, I made multiple observations.
1. Oh by the gods it moves.
2. You don't even need to paint these.
3. You don't have to sell your organs to afford one of these.
I think I'll pick one up. I kinda enjoy the design, even if I'm not into gundam.
Hope you enjoyed it
this wasn't the standard though. what the japanese are up to these days are far superior
@@kidrobot. has it already been two years since I posted this? Time flies.
I know, I looked far more into gunpla after I fell out of love with warhammer.
Still not an expert on the setting or anything, but I am addicted to eastern model kits now.
@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 sorry, i meant at the time you bought that, not in general, but yeah, they have advanced quite a long way since
and cool, ive always wanted to try one of those, how is it? do you know about megami device and 30 minute sisters?
>Why should we care about it
I-I like the DESIGN :(
Same.
yo same
I like it the kit is decent I am thinking of just gluing the scales together so I don't lose them
Late to the party, but I've been getting back into Gunpla after about a 30 year absence! This Z'Gok isn't good in terms of articulation and poseability, but IMHO the colours and the actual look of the model means that I for one will be seeking it out. Don't bring out the lynch mob, but doesn't the very nature of a marine MS mean that they are chunky and clunky and don't have the acrobatic prowess of a Shaolin Monk.. What's the crush depth on these things? These MS's are more akin to our present day Atmospheric Diving Suits I think.
Honestly I'd just spring for the old 1989 1/144 scale model of this. It's a significantly better model kit whose only crime is being a little limited articulation-wise.
well fun fact this suit was used in space as well along side geara dogas and it performed well it also has a cruise form which is it just tucking in its limbs for a more stream lined body and for transport…… i love this suit… its a shame bandai didnt do better with it i hope it gets a revive that fixes it
The best looking Z'gok, too bad the model kinda sucks
Could the scales be fixed with some super glue? To prevent them from moving around? Because I love the way this thing looks.
8:38 And then one year later, the Gundiver gets a P-bandai release in the HG Origin MSV line
Damn, and I like this design way more than the regular Z'Gok. Guess I'll hope for a RE/100 release...
thanks for your review. i was deciding between this and the older cheaper zgok. your right the older one seems much better.
i just completed this kit. I was displeased by the design of the kit but i love the mobile suit. I painted mine and it looks very good now. posing is a no go but i still was pleased with the build overall
I love the Zgok E. The torso doesn’t sit straight, the arms had to be glued because they’d burst outward and are a hassle to reassemble, the front skirting isn’t symmetrical.
But still. One of my favorite MS so it’s one of my favorite decorations.
Question: is it possible to replace the upper arms and legs on this kit with a production Z'Gok's upper arms and legs and/or take the forearms and forelegs and put them on a standard Z'Gok? Might make this kit salvageable.
Completely agree especially given the price point, they four year older Z'gok is a couple of hundred yen cheaper, and clearly the superior model. And I had the exact opposite problem with the arms on my build, they were so stiff, I chewed up the polycap moving them around.
I LOVE the Z'Gok E. I will still get it because I love it.
Edit: The model kit does seem to be pretty bad through...
Im still gonna buy this bcos it looks cooler than the zgok XD. And also for collection purposes. Dont think they will go for a Revive of this anyways
Or an RG.
I have one. Yeah pose this is hard but mine was ok for the arms at least. You won't be disapointed by the hy-gogg that's a cool kit and they look really nice together (plus it's one of the easyest kit to give a led mono-eye. It really gives him a bit of life)
Nice word K, very nice word, and a nice collection you have there
I love this suit ima still buy it and work on it
could one tighten up the connectoers if they use nail polish and such?
yes hygogg, ive heard praises about that kit.. i wanna get it but the uk now charge very high for imported products from abroad :(
Can the Elbow(or lower arm) rotate to where it will bend 90degrees?
I wonder if gluing the arm and legs scales would affect anything?
I actually kind of like the orange cockpit. It doesn't look like a beaver tooth like on the original, which is probably my only real complaint about the regular Z'Gok. It's so clear they didn't give a damn. I like the way it looks, it someone put effort in, unlike Bandai, and tried to fix its flaws, but it'd be a lot of effort better spent on another kit, probably.
If this was 1000 yen, it'd still be a crummy kit, but I could accept it easier. 1200 for this is crappier than Nemos being 1500 as far as paying more than it's really worth.
I Knew the arms were going to fall off before I started watching lol
Haha me too!
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Same
I think that the only reason this kit exists is to satisfy the major fans of War in the Pocket who want to complete their cyclops team collection with the Alex
What is that one you put out on the far left? The dragu?
I bought this because I like Z'Gok-E a lot. I was surprised by the cockpit really.
awww..i just bought this kit last weekend to pair it with my hygogg..seems bandai didnt put enough effort to this one..really sad..and it would take few more decades to seethis one on REVIVE project..great review.
Have you done a review of High Grade Kampfer from the 0080 series? If not, I'd love to see it :)
+Jonny T Nope, haven't bought that one, *yet* .
Design wise, I like this kit quite a bit. But the segmented parts are driving me crazy! I also agree on the articulation being limited...should of been like the original z'gok... ;-;
I wanna buy it and I don't care if it's old, I like old kits because their a blast from the past, simple, fun and my favorites, it looks fun and cool
Personally I like clear pieces, because it is easier to add leds and I do not have to cut as much and it will be more accurate. I wish they would have more kits with clear mono eyes.
I really love the model upset with the color and the joints are flimsy but as builder we can fix all that
Looking for a revive of this kit
just ordered it online, and will be arrived tomorrow lol
i built this guy last night and mine came out fine . but i do understand a bit where you're coming from. but also to be fair the way the arms and leg scales are shaped is why they're are on a rod.
crazy! I was just messing with my purple Zgok the day before to see if I could tighten up the arms. and found out it also doesn't work well on the action base either. sad face
Trust me the HY Gogg is a big improvement over the Zgok E and yes I bought the Zgok E and was disappointed by it. Would ever consider getting the Zee Zulu or the Zogok?
+SINANJU Jeager Building the Hygogg atm, so far so good.
I'll get both of them at some point but the Zogok in particular is pretty low on my list =P
+Kakarot197 the Zogok is a pretty good build just gotta be careful with the stuff fausts on the back of it
I half-expected that the other arm would fall as well
To each their own, I guess. Might buy the Experiment version, because of its design. Nothing against the normal Z'gok, but I much prefer the Experiment one.
How height for this model? 13cm
I'll just paint the orange parts grew.
Also I would love the Waterproof Gundam after reading Feddie hooligans.
Did you get it?
the last minute of z gok e pose is kinda saddening off the course.
Painted mines nito black almost dark charcoal grey cuz im gonna give it that predator look
Why should we care? Because it was featured in War in the Pocket, and it was awesome in the opening scene.
I actually thought it looked kinda cute with its claw on its hip. Looked like it's pouting or impatient.
Question : the Model that fought Meijin Kawakachi in GM Counter what was that ?
That's the Z'Gok Amazing
thats why i review at youtube first before buying
I know it's dumb, but I kinda enjoy seeing the Z'gok fall apart after watching it wreck GMs in 0080. Sucks for those who like the design though. Hopefully it'll get a revive along with all the other 0080 MSs (please Bandai we want a GM Sniper II with a double jointed arm).
Could you do the cancer ms
the Water combat MS models tend to be a bit under average particularly in general 0080 kits I think the Alex and GM Sniper 2 and Zaku II kai were the only ones they put effort into. its sad cause i wanted the Gelgoog Jagaer but i was disappointed to learn they did not improve it much from the old no grade I had aside from ball joints. and my friend Loves the Z'gok-E but now i dont want to even bothe getting him this if he can not enjoy it.
I bought it. But i dont care to much about articulation. And i paint my kits. I bet i even can make the hg tristan look good
Try tightening the arm joint so it can stay in place
I wanted to do a custo of this but this might dash my thoughts
Now if only we could get a revive of this.....
Why should we care? This prototype design is dope
In the end!!!...It doesn´t even matteeeeeeeeeeeeeer!! :v
My one’s arm does not fall off easily and stays up quite well but then again my one has a blue Bandai logo on the box so it is released more recently and probably has an advantage over yours
Mine has the arm issues too, I just glued the internal pegs together and that solved my issue
I just got this even knowing you said it stunk and it stinks on ice. Those arms are a pain in the ass and are hard to pose. It’s also the only time panel lines bugged me.
thank god i waited for your review of this kit before i bought it. i like the suit but godamn that's a shitty kit. thanks kakarot for saving me from buyers remorse
At 8:56, What kind big white zaku on left??
Zaku III
Specifically it's the mass production version. There is also a 1/144 green custom version used by an Axis ace.
I wouldn't say it sucks cause I like the design cause it looks cooler but there's really no bad kit just some takes some TLC to fully be what it could be
review 1/144 HGUC MS-18e Kampfer kit.
i’d say it’s a pretty solid kit kakarot went a bit too harsh
The arms fall off easily, posing is limited and doesn't work with an action base unless you drill a hole in this kit. I'm a 0080 fan so this kit was a must have but it needs work to make it look amazing.
Even with the adaptor?
Yeah, I tried... It's too wide between the legs for the 1/144 action base so you can't lock it in inside the hip joints. Definitely will need to drill a hole to get it on the base since it's an old HG without a plug.
+TekkaSage You can put it on an action base, but only the big one(action base 1) has an adaptor that's big enough.
I tried it. Was big enough but just barely. I'm sure it can be added to an action base 2 using this connection. These suits are meant to be on action bases with all the detail they have like the hygogg.
We need this to be revive
I bought this kit because i thought it looked cool and i love all zeon suits but i was quote disappointed with this kit for sure. But it does look cool!
The peg that holds the entire arm on the right side internally I ended up gluing, the scales I left alone but it did help and didnt do anything bad to the articulation.
CAN YOU FEEL IT MISTER CRABS!??!+!?+1?!?!?
Yeah
What a shame, I love this design and all 0080 suits
they literally could have just made all the scales ball joints and no one would complain
i mean, if it wasn't a problem would anyone complain?
Yeah the arms are not very good, but I love the look of this thing so much.
Noice
Is it painted or just penned in?
I only did the panel lining
T H E B I G E
the hy gogg is much better than z'gok E it have better articulation and every segmen of the arm can move like z'gok but with much articulation than z'gok and its damn cheap high grade that make me love it,with great articulation and great price its really great gunpla
First video I heard the f bomb in.
You can tell he's mad at Bandai.
the hy gogg is much better than z'gok E it have better articulation
Look how they massacred my boy
I was going to buy this because it looked cooled but now no way i will get the Gouf R35
+Raphael Jefferson Go with the R35!
It's quite unfair to use modern standard to judge this old kit.
Z'Gok E was a decent kit back then.
The arm segment was a design choice. There was no way Bandai could do individual movable segment unless they change Z'Gok E's arm design to something like Z'Gok's. The alternative choice to Z'Gok E's arm would be making all the segment into one piece which would have better stability and cost way less for Bandai but lose all the nice details.
+sageyou99 Unfair? Modern standard? I compared it to the original Z'gok, which is 4 years older(and much better). The Z'gok E was unimpressive even at the time of its release. Its arms are weaker than most of the 90's models.
+Kakarot197 Sorry , my bad. I somehow got that impression even though you were comparing Z'gok and Z'Gok E side by side. While the arms are weak and look awkward in dynamic poses, the thighs look great with all the individual segments. I also find the overall look of HGUC Z'Gok E unimpressive but bought the kit anyway because of the unique build of the legs and arms. Actually, I find most of HGUC 0080 kits to have some major flaws in their looks but that's just me.
i completely agree with you, i bought it to have the complete 0080 collection (the kampfer is the king of them) and is some kind of a cursed collection, every model has is flaws, the gms are mediocre, the Alex drives me mad, that fuking geelgoog... is more basic than a stick, At least i have that cool crab Hy-goog and the zaku and the big rick dom.
+perreterecon At least the gelgoog came with a cool rifle. What's the issue on the Kaempfer btw? I was always under the impression that it was a solid kit(then again, that's what I thought about THIS thing too)
+Kakarot197 The kampfer is quite solid, a few things could be better but they're not huge. But the zaku kai, rick dom II, kampfer, and Hy-gogg are the best of the line.
***** No no, the kampfer is the best one of my humble collection
Neowattmk4 Yes, and i completelly forgot about the draken and the gift thing it comes with, the Gm snipars II
perreterecon Well of course the Kampfer is the best one I was just saying that the other ones I mentioned are pretty good as well. (especially the rick dom II because I really like my doms)
Mod it, put in more join on the scales
this is a kit you have to mod. no way acceptable out of the box as a snap-build. I was lucky to have pla-plate and rods to improve the articulation and scale pieces.
+opsimathics That sums it up pretty nicely.
Such a shame because its such an awesome design
Seeing how disappointing this Gunpla is, it's hard to imagine how much worse is the original 1989 kit.
I wonder. If the scales aren't separate, in some respects it might be less of a pain in the ass
Too bad I’m painting it and making it better
Hahahahaha the moment when the arm falls of you just quit on it altogether
the hy gogg is much better than z'gok E it have better articulation and every segmen of the arm can move like z'gok but with much articulation than z'gok and its damn cheap high grade
Brick ms
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I got disappointed with the zgok
ZGOK YEE?
Ssuk is your mon
Stop complaining. It's not good for you. Well this kit is not for everyone so don't expect a special quality, I think it's good enough and remember that gunpla is made to be improved by its modeler. Some people care about gunpla because the movie not only based on the model kit, so be grateful that bandai has made this kit even tough its not perfect and not "for everyone".
It's a review, so I have to point out both good and bad things. That way people get the full picture and can decide that a model isn't for them. Only praising a model is for Bandai's marketing department.
Just being grateful that a model exists is a fanboyish attitude I'm not comfortable with if there are glaring flaws and it would disingenuous to boot.
the hy gogg is much better than z'gok E it have better articulation and every segmen of the arm can move like z'gok but with much articulation than z'gok and its damn cheap high grade that make me love it,with great articulation and great price its really great gunpla
the hy gogg is much better than z'gok E it have better articulation and every segmen of the arm can move like z'gok but with much articulation than z'gok and its damn cheap high grade that make me love it,with great articulation and great price its really great gunpla