FIRST US Magazine to Test Ride The NEW Triumph Speed 400
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2023
- We had an exclusive opportunity to do a first ride on the all new Triumph Speed 400.
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Here is a suggestion: stop playing music while someone is talking. It adds no value. It just competes with the speaker.
When you’ve got nothing to say, sing it.
as a sound engineer in my bkgnd and for life in my bones, I agree. This is often overlooked especially in post prod.
Also use Google translator... Ba JA J
Very true. It’s very distracting.
Really, we are watching for info, not music(which Could be much quieter)
At last, the Triumph I've been waiting for since 1983!
Thanks for the preview. Looks and sounds very promising
I wish this was available a year ago when I bought my first bike. I'd have gotten this for sure.
Well Bajaj is doing a pretty good job with the current RC390.
Owner forums would suggest otherwise.
@@BikingChapforums are just for anoraaks
@@vvevvevvvv sure, ok. 🙄
@@BikingChap I own the fist gen RC390. Havent had any issues in past eight years except the ABS motor stopped working last year. Great bike nonetheless, very very cheap to maintain in India. Using it as my daily rider since the day one.
@@rohanclassic fair play. I tried a 390Duke years ago and while it looks great I thought it lack the grunt a 400 single should have, that said I tried a 690 just after it and that was epic. I think it spoiled me lol.
Maybe this 400 with a slightly longer stroke with give just a bit more low down oomph.
I think this might actually be Triumphs best looking bike. Nice blend of modern and retro. By far the best looking at this price point. A brand new Triumph for 5k is a great deal.
This motorcycle just shook-up the entire Indian motorcycling scene- a true checkmate event for both Royal Enfield and the pseudo-Harley X440. The styling reeks of Triumph ethos from every angle- what a clean and gorgeous design for an entry level motorcycle. No costs and corners were cut in bringing this to motorcycling enthusiasts- and with the pricing when converted to USD from INR keeps it under USD 3500, I guess it will be on the higher side yet terrific value for money.
No way this will be $3500 U.S. But if they can keep it under$4500, I’ll buy one. Perfect for my needs.
@@donalddicorcia2433 Yeah absolutely- won't be that low. Just a figure to show that the pricing on other parts of the world won't be too far off.
Definitely some amazing “entry” level bikes coming out. But they will probably sell for around 5-6k sadly:(
Another commercial break?
@@donalddicorcia2433 Its on sale for equivalent to 2800USD in India.. and duke390 , also made by Bajaj, is for 3500USD. You can co-relate the prices there buddy. Triumph might follow this price strategy in US as well. Everyone here was expecting it to be priced at least equal or above duke390.. but Triumph surprised everybody.
Wow, I didn’t expect Chad here. That dude is everywhere!
Can't wait for the full review, I have a full licence and have not ridden for about 7 years, love the look of this.
Triumph needs to bring out a true Bonneville classic in 650cc. Royal Enfield is destroying them in sales with the Interceptor.
I like it a lot. If it can do American freeway speeds and the price is right it will be a winner!
check out its top speed runs.. it can do a 100 with relative ease 😉
@@koenigsegg1237456789
How much vibration at 70-75 mph will be crucial.
@@koenigsegg1237456789 yea right. A d at that less then that speed its trying to vibrate itself apart am forget about reliability 400cc is too little in the usa
@@browngreen933 tons am sure
@@browngreen933 th-cam.com/video/YXBEmhjk9zI/w-d-xo.html
It's a promising prospect, if it can deliver Triumph has a big hit on its hands.
Why wouldn't they?
Excellent......by the time the bikes launches there should be some slip-ons and a air filter available.....would be really great for somebody to have a reflash for a full system at some point.
Will go for the scrambler version when it hits the states, as long as the price is reasonable.
I hope that triumph uses the longer indian front mudguard, it does rain in the uk and wouldn't want to spend all my time cleaning the muck off the engine.
They actually brought one to Britain for a limited test. About time.
Very nice looking. Just give it a proper tach and speedo.
The aesthetics seems stuck in the middle of something modern and the classic triumph look. Probably to please the largest audience possible. I'd like to see a couple of polarised versions of this. One properly classic and one proper modern... Love the concept of it
Thanks for the review! I'm eager to see the Speed 400 compared to the Kawasaki z400.
I don't think those two bikes appeal to the same people, with Kawasaki buyers probably younger and more interested in its spec sheet numbers, while the Triumph's classic beauty will attract a different crowd.
Bajaj literally learned bike engineering from Kawasaki. It's a good competition
Proper, proper Triumph quality thumper that's sure to be a winner. Brilliant job by Bajaj-Triumph for adhering to the Triumph lineage and delivering a proper middleweight Triumph without giving heed to the bookkeeper. Sure to be massive hit!
bollocks
It isn't a proper thumper, it's too revvy ..
Game changer for Triumph this. Brings them into the mass market with, what looks like, Triumph quality stamped all over it. Great job! Nice taster for the full review Adam.
Isn't it a bit early to say that it's got Triumph quality stamped all over it when it's half Bajaj?
If it’s got normal triumph quality … run
@@volt8684why? All my street triples have been incredible quality I don’t think you know what you’re talking about
@xskateandannoyx The Speed Triples are made in United Kingdom 🇬🇧
Triumphs are not that reliable in general, unfortunately, at least compared to Japanese bikes
Some Kawasaki dealers are selling new Z400 bikes at $4,499 so I'm curious what the Triumph will sell for. Might be over MSRP first year like the Kawasaki. Triumph compared to the KTM 390 engine: Bore is same, 89mm but stroke is 4mm longer at 64mm on the Triumph.
It's on sale for equivalent to 2800USD here in India. And for reference KTM duke390 is equivalent to 3500USD. We were expecting it to be around 3600-3700 but Triumph dropped a bomb with pricing.
I think it’s much better looking than a z400, which I currently own and like very much. However I’ll consider getting one of these Triumphs and say goodbye to the z400. Or maybe keep both. It’s a storage problem.
$5200 US price range I was told by dealer
My local KTM dealer is selling new 390 Dukes for $5,899 but out the door price is $7,259. I think that will have to drop when the Speed 400 gets here.
5000 for the speed, 5600 for the scrambler variant. it's gonna tank sales for the z400 and mt03 imo
All good, though silver forks would have been a been a better choice IMO. The only "trying too hard" part.
Just ordered mine. I've been through the "big ones", both British and Japanese. Now, a senior citizen, my only desire is a nice backroad ride on a quiet sunny morning. I don't need a crotch rocket. I don't need to race anybody. I want good lightweight handling, adequate power to keep up with and overtake cars, and a nice looking bike. This one seems to fill the bill at a very decent price. I would have bought a CB300R if it wasn't for the fact that (to me) it's so damn fugly.
I can only wish there will be a smidge larger one w\ a *CROSSPLANE* inline 2 engine
Blue looks lovely. Slightly strange graphics choice.
Oh man another new bike on my radar. Just need to decide what to get.😅
If they make a scrambler version, with offroad tires, it will be a huge hit
Still no official price? If the maintenance intervals are better than Royal Enfield Meteor/Hunter/etc. (and they should be) for a minimal price difference, it will sell a ton. The Rebel is a weird looking and anemic bike. It would seem like the also-new Kawasaki Eliminator and this bike would be among the best options in this size but the Kawa was a bit more expensive than I expected. If you want something more modern in a naked bike, the G310, Z400 and Duke 390 are likely the best bang for the buck still.
after 6 months of using a bike would U please Revaluation it again , thanks indvance
Should be a fun bike 👍
can you put a main stand on it?
Sort of reminds me of the Trident?
Its a brilliant bike.. It betters the class best KTM Duke 390 in overall terms!!.. Which is a big feat..
It is a single yes.. But its a 40bhp from 400 cc & not a 20bhp 350cc from a certain similarly priced donkey 🤷♀️
Also the best testers in India today concluded that this machine - Triumph Speed 400 has the best roll on/ in gear acceleration overall amongst all of its competition like - KTM Duke 390, Kawasaki Ninja 400, Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 twin!!.. Emphasising its mid range torque & driveability.. These aren't slow machines as we know..
It has good midrange. So does a mule when compared to a racehorse.
I think duke 390 and ninja 400 are still way quicker from what I have heard or seen.
Wish they would make a 600cc version with 60-65 HP for American market with spoke wheels. Great looking bike, but 39HP is pretty boring on American roads unless going down hill on a tight mountain road. Still kick myself for not buying the SRX600 when it came out.
better go with new KTMs
You might as well get the Trident at that point
It needs to be under £4,500 in the Uk to get into the Enfield domination
I bet it won't be less than £5.5k
@@Seymour_Cox I agree. I’m Guessing it’ll be nearer 6k which is a shame.
A fatal shame. They never learn, RE are yawning with pleasure..'Oh fuck,were going to have to build a new factory to cope with the demand when the gift horse sends the 400 to market'. @@sjv6598
Bloody hell Chad you are a global phenomenon! 🤣
This bike has launed already here in india and its on sale too
How much does it cost
@josephripalda2956 Ex showroom cost is 233,000 Indian Rupees, when converted to US dollar it will be around to $ 2840.
strongly considering trading in my RE Meteor 350 for this when its available in the US
I would.
Does anyone know where to find that motorcycle jacket?
around the year 1974
I want a 400x to replace my 08 Scrambler!
Even though, cannot classify as a Retro, one thing is pretty sure that this machine capable of taking a big chunk of bite from Royal Enfield.
Not at its launch price it won’t! You wait and see.
@@roviwoteap2375 OK Patel.
That music killed me. I lasted 90 secs.
Like that jacket. Anyone know where to buy one?
Lidl SM
Wait , ktm has lean-sensitive abs in this class or ?
Very customizable
Does it have a Centre Stand? If not, routine maintenance is going to be a little awkward.
Buy an ABBA stand
Man it needs dual rear shocks, hate that big gap between the rear wheel and seat -- take a look at the RE hunter, that's a proper look. Other than that looks like a great bike.
If you want an old bike, get an old bike
The monoshock doesn't belong on this bike, the other Speed Twins have shocks. That's where they saved some $$, probably sharing a pre-existing frame.
@@benjaminminty9602 It's a direct descendant of the 1200 and 900 Speed Twins, both of which have traditional rear shocks. The monoshock doesn't belong on this bike.
@@news603redux I think it looks great just the way it is and definitely better looking than any RE
Ordered mine already paid deposit Uk price is £5500
That's me out then, as I won't pay more than £5000. Also, why have you ordered a bike? You haven't had a test ride.
@@captricharddee3634 had enough bikes to know from specs and reviews also had many different triumphs in last few years if don’t like it I just chop it in the scrambler 400 comes out in October I think!! But suspect it be a bit more expensive but under 6k
@@captricharddee3634 Oh no ! Never! And you being a Captain 👩✈️!! Lol 😂! Doesn’t matter what ! Or how much your bike costs! As long as you keep riding! All the best 😃
Bought one here in India. Very fun machine for city use. Does 100kmph effortlessly. Don’t just go by the spec sheet. Ride one to know better.
Cool - now build a full-on tall Scrambler variant - not the tepid 400X.
Feels very mechanical 😅
background music should have been lower in volume
Chad waxing lyrical about the Triumph. Sounds too good to be true, but we’ll see in November. Talking about sound; maybe in the next video, turn the silly background music up a tiny bit more. Then we won’t be able to hear the journalist at all🤦♂️
Sounds good. I really like this if it is true.
What?
Beautiful bike and I am wanting one but I can’t get over it being built in India. Will it be reliable long term?
Don't be racist. There are plenty of good motorcycles made in curry land
@@judge831 Calm down Karen, nothing racist at all about it.
@@casinosnoopy9900bikes and clothes are the only thing made in India which you should buy without worrying
@@casinosnoopy9900ok atleast prejudice or generalization?
Nice project, but it lacked a version with spoked wheels!
dang I hate that 🥲🥲🥲 plenty of bikes with spokes have it brother
i want it
What kind of warranty does it have? Details would be nice 👍
@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 My brand new 2013 800XC never came with a warranty. I did...kinda. Couldn't get them to honor it though. Same thing.
If you buy one of these just assume that they won't honor the warranty and you'll have to wait 6 weeks for parts twice/year.
I believe all Triumphs have a two heat warranty
@@zacpdx My new 800XC sure didn't have a warranty.
@MrJdebest
In india it's having 2 years unlimited kilometres warranty
Service interval 16000 Kms
Google it.
I am an absolut KTM Duke 390 Fan! But to be honest, the Kiska Design is awful! In the last 2 years the dream of an good looking ktm 390 like a Ducati Scrambler or a Triumph Speed Twin was growing! The Speed 400 will meet all my expectations!!!!!!
I can’t see how we can look for signs of cost cutting when the retail price hasn’t been confirmed. Enfield are selling a 350 for £3,500 if Triumph decide to price this as a premium product I hope they have their QA sorted out better than the KTM and their 390
Well in India where both of the bikes are manufactured Triumph is priced like $200 more than Enfield
@@smr_dby really? That would be under £4k in the UK. I’d be amazed if it was under £5k. Welcome to the uk where manufacturers adopt the ‘whatever the market will bear’ pricing.
@@BikingChapif you convert inr to gbp its 2800gbp on road in india
@@Hsp44 interesting, the tame press and TH-cam channels in the uk are preparing us for a 5000-5500GBP price tag. Constantly pushing that it’s more in competition with an RC390 and G310 than the 350 Enfield at around 3500-4000GBP
@@BikingChap g310 is like 3k gbp and rc390 around 3.5k gbp in india so its quite a bit cheaper
next time cut the music please, other than that thanks for the video
Should have had an American do this review as the title says.
In India the Speed 400 will be priced at $2800, so how is Triumph going to explain to buyers in the US and England that the bike will cost them between $5,000 and $6,000?
They can't, so I won't be a buyer. I'm not alone, RE dominate the market and they are coming out with a 450 to match/exceed the specs. So many vid reviews are coming from India on the 400 where it is well established all saying what fantastic value it is at £2.3K...
$2,800, what a deal. The bike must be made in India, right?
@@sandydennylives1392 $1000 iphone costs $2000 in India and yet people buy it. That's what import and taxes does.
Lucky for my m/bike days are over for the time being, my roads are jam packed with cars and 20mph legal speeds.@@jimmylives
If this had of been around when I bought My Ninja 400 I may be riding a Triumph instead.
They did okay on the exhaust system but it sounds like a dirt bike.
How Tall is Adam child?
Ihope IT Will fit m'y 1m83 ?
Grenat bike 😮
The most important bit of information wasn’t given
The price
Will be way over priced compared to Royal Enfield.
@@roviwoteap2375considering both r manufactured by Indian companies there won't be that much difference unless Triumph makes some moves
Great to see chad , if he’s saying it’s good , it is good , for everyone out their , it’s no build in England , it’s not a twin , that would make it way to expensive , which will be the first complaint when the price is released ,we’ll it’s not as cheap as a royal Enfield 350 !!! it’s not a parts bin special , triumph are serious , the 400cc market is ultra valuable , for whatever money it’s going to cost it’s going to be a bargain , get your money down now or your never going to get one , it’s going to sell like hot cakes , it ticks all the boxes , first bike , second bike , scrambler for me thanks 🏍🏍👍👍
It reminds me of my old Yamaha Radian.
How?
Physical size, seat-peg-bar geometry. Profile.
Why were all the specs given on imperial? Thought triumph was British
Does anyone know if US dealers are taking deposits yet?
I put a deposit on one in at Moto Richmond in VA last week.
Are they going to gouge you fir more than MSRP like the car dealerships have been doing?
Single??? I had my hopes up for a small twin. And it is heavy for a single.
Then buy the Kawasaki.
I'd love one, but it's all about price. Meteor 350's are MSRP + $1000 out the door. This bike will be the same and, if so, $6500 {or so} is too much money for a 400cc anything. And this should have had rear shocks to be a "real" Triumph.
Lol, "I'm European correspondent for ..." , Chad glances down a long list .....
Probably so expensive for a 400 that you wont find they cut costs
Highway vibration?
yea, I want to know how it performs at 70-80mph
@@sgomez8194 39HP on a naked bike, it will probably reach 100-105 mph (as Duke 390 w/44HP is 105-110). So 70-80 mph will be fine, just not energetic.
Test ride it.
I'm sorry but c'mon.. "sent the Internet into meltdown '.. We do get carried away these days.. That said nice bike.
Nah. Would of liked a 400 triple or a Baby Bonnie twin..
Hope it sells well but it's not for me.
Does it wheelie though?
It does 😁
th-cam.com/video/YXBEmhjk9zI/w-d-xo.html
LOL! Not in any of the "ride reviews" that I've seen to date. Maybe it's a pig or Triumph told them not to push the bike. One reviewer was going to show how fast it would go in each gear, but "the roads were wet". Maybe it speed wobbles in the rain . One thing about the bike is indisputable: they can't stop themselves from praising it and they have absolutely no interest in backing up their claims. It might lead one to believe that they're only doing this for the money...
@@doylegaines1319 There might be a few who are not fair in showering heaps of praise on the bike- but I know of some very genuine journos who know their scotch and were appreciative of the new baby Triumphs. So I take their word for it. I used to be a test rider myself a couple of years back before I switched my country and have ridden with those guys- so I'd believe what they say.
Anything will wheelie.
Set your sights a little higher, child.
@@deepakdongre7712 That's the problem, few of them are saying anything that's substantive. I'm sure it's a very nice bike, but in case you haven't noticed, EVERY MANUFACTURER makes nice bikes. Most of the riding public can read a spec sheet from the manufacturer, what's required is real data. How far does it take to stop from 60 mph? What's the 1/4 mile E.T.? Calibrated radar-gun top speed? Dyno chart specs? How does it handle compared to what and where? Don't you understand? THEY'RE NOT EVALUATING THE BIKE IN REAL TERMS-they're just spouting about how wonderful it is of Triumph to allow us to line up and buy it. I've only seen one evaluation where the tester gave some info about the engine performance that wasn''t of the highest praise but even he offered no proof. The whole thing stinks of a publicity blitz to create demand. It looks like they've done everything but offer a free beanie baby or Playstation with each bike. I've seen this crap before, Triumph is very cleverly marketing the bike and these silly youtubers are just playing along for the money.
I don’t understand the need for the horizontal exhaust heat shield and the bend of the header is not particularly esthetic.
You wouldn't want to obscure the Triumph logo lol
It was done as an in house joke to see how long before someone spelt aesthetic incorrectly. (quick, edit your post so my post doesn't make sense)
It's pronounced: Buh - JAJ. A short "buh" and a longer, more stressed "Jaaj".
Who cares?
whats about vibration
Whats about English?
All talk, NO ride !
This would be a cool bike if I hadn't already bought a 2011 Street Triple R that was leaking oil from the head at 2k miles. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...not happening.
Bet the subsequent owner fixed what was probably a very minor issue and went on to enjoy the bike for 10s of 1000s of kms.
like "my previous blonde girlfriend was a bitch so i give up banging any other blonde girl forever" WOW.
This and every other competitor you mentioned is India made. That is good.
This will need to be directly compared to the Husqvarna Svartpilen 401. They have similar specs & styling.
Never seen a Husqvy on the road, might be something to do with the high price for what you get? I very much doubt Triumph will learn the lesson, unless it's to boost Trident 660 sales, but they will probably raise the price on that too. It's all a bit acedemic anyway, you need a home garage or it will be stolen in the UK, or store it in your ground floor bedroom.
Given that bike is basically a KTM than you might as well say the Duke 390, and I don't see the similarity.
They’ll probably sell it cheap in India and hike the price up everywhere else around the world to make a profit.
All companies make a profit?
Do you work for free?
If anyone wondering about the price its Rupees 2.33lakhs Ex showroom (without tax and insurance)
What is that in real money?
@@tvdinner325 2300 Pound
Someone might want have a look at the Owner of Triumph South Africa, the Triumph brand in South Africa if the owner did not double the price of motorcycles, in comparison to what one can buy it for in other countries. For instance, the speed 400 sells in India for R51 0000.00 bit in South Africa, the speed 400 is more expensive than the KTM Duke 390.
This clearly shows that Triumph South Africa is synonymous with its countries government. Greed corruption and over inflation of goods in comparison to other countries.
What's with the weird music?
Dont want a sport bike, or a Harley, been there done that. This looks like just enough bike.
Why are you taking turns like that, your body positioning is scary.
It's made to make as much profits for triumph as possible, If you want a fast bike buy something else. ICE is about to die anyway, no reason to put twin cylinders in an entry level bike which will only drive up costs and reduce triumphs profits.
Would be good if you could use metric measurements as well as most of the world will understand better .
@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 It's not particularly that he's British, it's more that this video is for Cycle World viewers in the USA. If he was making this video for us Brits, he would have used Imperial gallons for the fuel capacity rather than US gallons (actually we usally talk in litres for fuel capacity over here nowadays, and also KG for weight)
@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 Apart from the wheel and/or tyre diameter there won't be an imperial measurement to be found on any of the drawings, be they blueprints or digital, of any part of that motorcycle.
It might be good for you, on the other hand I couldn't care less. Learn to use a conversion chart and let the rest of the world make up it's own mind.
@@doylegaines1319 if you couldn't care less why are you posting this comment ?
@@specialized500 Oh, that's easy. What I said is that I couldn't care less about what might be good for you. That's because I learned a long time ago that the world doesn't want to conform to my likes and dislikes. Hence the employment of conversion charts when needed. And sometimes using charts and such actually adds knowledge. Sometimes.
How much worse is this against a true Honda CB500F?
And dont pull it apart and think you have a cafe racer !!!
Why is background music so incredibly annoying and loud
Turn down the music man it’s annoying
Totally agree
Disapponting that in reallity it is a Bajaj
should've been a twin...
cost
Triumph already makes a twin 900. This bike fills a gap in their lineup
@@MrCarguy427 And a twin 400 wouldn't fill that gap? I think you've been listening to the marketing hype.
@@doylegaines1319 That would bring the cost up much more. People will always find something to complain about
@@MrCarguy427 Such as a cost rise in exchange for smoothness and performance? Hmmm..I see your point. People will find a way to complain about something....