I have zero respect for that religion for a variety of reasons, but the one that comes most readily to mind is the notion that all people must be converted, killed, or _TAXED._ That last bit, "taxed", is what ruins it, because it's saying _"What you're doing is such an affront to Allah that you must be exterminated... oh you got $5? Shiet, then we all cool, bruh."_ *If your principles can be bought, **_then they're NOT priniciples._* "It's only a sin if you can't buy your way out of justice."
@@joeluigi2008 I don't know much of anything about Scientology... except that Germany doesn't recognize it as a religion, but instead it is categorized as a business.
Please do not take this as disrespect, but The Buddha did not teach to cut off all desires. He did differentiate between good desires (chanda) and unwholesome desires (tanha). He said to cut off tanha only. Clearly a person needs desire to sit and meditate, help others, teach etc.... The Buddha didn't abandon the world, one of the first things he did was help others by teaching the dharma.
To what end? If you correctly differentiate between these desires, can you avoid rebirth and reach Nirvana? Or is that something only a monk or nun practising to deny ALL desires can achieve? All you're actually saying is that Buddha taught people how to be good, which is what most religions teach by the way. The question you fail to address is why/for what? The "why/for what" is the difference between all other religions and Christianity.
@@jdshl8423 Chanda is the motivation that helps you renounce worldliness and embrace meditation and a religious life. Tanha is a subconscious desire that is often out of our control and is the Christian concupiscence. The only way to defeat it is to have enough Chanda to "deny ourselves and pick up our crosses".
@@jdshl8423 Yes, and we do it out of love for our Christ. "Work-based" religions are meaningless in the sense that the scale (in this case, between "chanda" and "tanha") is so arbitrary that it is entirely a human invention. Love, on the other hand, is outside of humanity. Love is objective, eternal, and real. Love is the ultimate source of motivation in all human beings. The absolute common denominator.
I've lived in Buddhist countries and I don't think most people, especially Westerners, really understand the concepts behind self and suffering in these cultures.
I grew up as Buddhist then I called out to Buddha to help me with severe depression and allah too but they don’t respond. Only God of the Bible respond in Jesus name, now I am the only Christian in my family because I know the creator of heaven and earth. That holds the past, the future and the present. What I was told was not the truth, I had to seek the truth for myself and I stumbled on the gospel through a comic about heaven and hell as most Asians are intrigued by the Spiritual realm.
The main goal of buddhism is detachment from the material world hence no suffering. It's workable..for a while... if you are a hermit living in the mountains alone. But what about the living? What about family and friends? It doesnt work that way. That's why buddhist fail to understand self peace doesn't come from one's effort. You can't do that. You need God. By his grace and mercy. This could be an alien concept cos i come from a staunch buddhist background and it took me a while to understand
@@CherryTree277 Philosophy in my opinion is an integral part of most religions. Religion is more than just doctrine. When you study religion, you find that there's particular cultures, arts, methods, practices, teachers in most main religions. Buddhism itself can be thought of as a science, a practice, a particular way of living in and understanding the world. As someone who does buddhist practices like meditation, I will admit that many of concepts found in Buddhism are quite difficult for many people to understand. Even I had a hard time understanding some of the teachings at first, but over time, they made a lot more sense. Christianity is definitely is easier to practice, comprehend, and accept relative to Buddhism. There's less you have to do and understand to be a Christian. At least when it comes to Protestant Christianity. I'm not implying one is better than the other, but rather, one is a lot simpler than the other.
I was as a teenager very into buddhist aesthetic (because of anime, some may call it cringe, its fine). But then I understood about karma and why its important in buddhism to achieve nirvana. For them the cycle of reencarnation is so bad, to return to this world as a totally distinct person or even species and suffer is such a cruel destiny that they must escape the cycle, and the bodhisattvas like the dalai lama are souls that keep avoiding full buddhahood becuase they want to guide humanity to that stupid state. I totally agree that if reencarnation was the actual after life and karma was real metric then indeed life itself is disgusting,but I knew there was something profoundly wrong with that kind of philosophy. Thats one of the reason I went back Christianity and I defend its the truth, life is a beautiful creation of God and the path to redemption of our specie and the whole earth is through him and his compasion and love.
The bible says what you sow is what you reap, so this is certainly karma. You believe Jesus paid your karmic debt with his sacrifice, so how can you not believe in karma? The thing is that karma goes deeper than debts, it also effects our day to day lives and causes suffering. If a person is addicted to drugs or sex, this too is karma, and it has a destructive effect on people's lives. Jesus took care of the wages of sin, which is death, but he cannot remove sin from your heart and mind with a mere sacrifice. You have to sacrifice yourself to Jesus to purify these karmic stains.
The whole point is to remove yourself from karmic reaction. Karma simply means actions. Everything takes actions. Breathing is an action. Positive actions give positive results but this is still impermanence. God is unchanging and eternal. There must be an unchanging and eternal quality within us that goes beyond divine and demonic . To reach that state is Nirvana, some may call it transcendental. The tao says weather one goes up or down a ladder his position is shaky stand firmly on the ground. Be ground in the eternal unchanging reality.
@@anthonydowney-uo2zo Some actions don't create karma though, they are known as akarmas. This type of action is how enlightened people act. Like when God acts, he does not create karma for himself, all God's actions are akarma, same with all enlightened beings. Akarmas transcend karma. When a person is properly aligned with the Tao all his actions become akarma or what they call wu wei.
@HunterJames-xm6qt he was incorrect to claim that Buddha directs us to cut off desire. Buddha understands the human condition and guides followers to find the "middle path", balancing humbleness and reasonable comfort and luxury.
@@elusiveeagle8597 Since Jesus is God and doesn't live within the bonds of time and a limited lifespan he can resurrect himself easy peasy. It is just flesh and bone.
,,cut of your desires" is an expended version of cut yourself of from sin and ,,cut of your desires" is not meant in absoulut sense, you can't cut of your desires it is impossible, so its actually also meant in differentiating between ,,right and wrong" desires and cutting those of
Now you are looking for justification, instead of understanding what exactly buddha was doing. Through contemplation or meditation, he dissociated from thoughts of all nature, in order to become empty, and learn to observe incoming or outgoing thoughts only as an observer. The moment he learned this skill, he began to distinguish and explore other mental states, consciously, which allowed him to connect with demons and spirits. The demons are deceiving spirits, and it is impossible to learn about truth by communicating with them. Bible is very clear on this topic. All practices of idle worship and practice of witchcraft is very similar to the practice of Buddha. The only difference is the intention, but the process is the same, which means that it is communication with guides and evil spirits that can show you want you want to see like in a virtual reality. You will not be able to distinguish false from the truth as you don't control their environment, but only able to view what is shown to you. To be able to control their environment you need to be a 4 dimensional being, that can control 4-dimensional space. People who do this, will end up in hell.
@@jdshl8423 then ,,getting rid off all desires" will be the one desire they won't get rid off but i just took a look in it and as far as i understood, they are defining ,,desire" not as i do, for them it seems to be about the concept of ,,wanting something and suffering because you don't have it" therefore getting rid of all desires
Buddha Dharma is not about abandoning the world. The opposite is true: we are taught to love the world and help all beings. However, we are to cut ourselves from attachment. We can have love and compassion without attachment.
Theists including myself do not accept that atheists have met their burden of proof. There are 4,200 religious groups in the world today. However Christianity stands out from all those. The Egyptians believed that the pharaoh was the 'living Horus'. The ancient Egyptians had many different beliefs about the god Horus. One of the most common beliefs was that Horus was the son of Isis and Osiris. After Osiris was murdered by his brother Seth, Horus fought with Seth for the throne of Egypt. Dionysus was the last god to enter Olympus. Dionysus was the son of Zeus and the Theban princess Semele. There are 10 that pre-date Jesus. Horus, Attis of Phrygia, Zoroaster/Zarathustra, Glycon, Heracles, Dionysus, Romulus, Odysseus, Krishna, Buddha Buddhism which is based on Atheism No God but we are Gods in our inner being and need to bring it out and will evolve in Gods after many lives. There are 30 Million Gods of Hinduism. The concept of Hinduism is nothing more than fantasy or mythology. The three most important are Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Being the creator god, Brahma's name sounds very similar to the divine entity known as Brahman. For Hinduism, It is Brahma who brought all things into being. All is based on Reincarnation. This cycle of reincarnation is called Samsara. Jews Still expect the Messiah to come but in their Torah: "Daniel 7 & 9" it is written that the Messiah has to come 70 years before the destruction of the Temple, then Who was it? There is not a true Jew because there is not a High priest and not an Arc of the Covenant for the Great Day of Atonement. Jews cannot practice their religion and don’t. From the 15 M Jews in the world only 5 M are practicing it as far as possible. Sikhism is a mixture religion founded in the 16th century in India and specific Asian Sikhs believe that human beings spend their time in a cycle of birth, life, and rebirth. They share this belief with followers of other Indian religious traditions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. Shintoism has no gods. Nor does it provide a moral code as most other religions do. It is thus not concerned with instructing one on how to live in the world. It also does not try to explain how the world works. Shintoism simply focuses on discovering ways of communicating with kami Cao Dai. It is Like Buddhism there is no God We will be gods. Neo-Paganism + Worship of Nature or elements Unitarian-Universalism Do not worship a God or Gods but belief in doing good. This is a basic group to whom most all Cults are connected. All are based on accomplishing and developing the good that is in Us by working hard. Islam is based on the Abrahamic religions and much copied from the Bible mixed with other pagan religions. It does not fit in the western cultures with degrading women and promoting violence. Started by a 700 AD warlord, rapist and Caravan robber. Killing innocent merchants steeling their Camels and possessions. Raping Women making them sex slaves for all the man with him. Is not worth to be called a Religion. Mormonism is based on Free Masonry. Joseph Smith was a Free Mason. That is an Organization with particular goals with the book of Mormon. and the Angel mooneye who gave it on golden plates. All of the 4200 world religions fit in one of those categories Christianity is what God works in us by Faith and grace through the HOLY SPIRIT. It stands apart from ALL other world religions and is not culture-based like Sikhism and most of the Asian religions where you need to wear a headdress Take your pick I did mine. Christianity starting with Israel is the only Religion that is old and fit in with all cultures of the World. Atheism is total nonsense and can be categorized as a religion, based on no facts but you have to believe it. Much more people come from atheism to Christianity than the other way around. Conversions do not happen from Christianity to these other religions but from the others to Christianity. A very small number has happened from Christians to Islam but those were only name-Christians. Christians have always been persecuted by Atheist regimes and other religions, and not the other way around. And still are.
I think the way he talked about how cutting off desire is taught in Buddhism paints a wrong picture of the Buddha's teachings. The Buddha taught about getting rid of wordly desires (money, material wealth, alcohol, etc.) not about cutting off the desire to help people, he actually encouraged his followers to give even if they had little.
This video brings attention to something I've been wondering about for some time: Buddha's philosophy. Could any Buddhists out there help clarify this for me please? It was my understanding in the past that Buddha's stance was the Third Way. First, he led a life of decadence and pleasure as a prince; a few years later he became an ascetic, meditating all the time, living in poverty, and starving himself. Shortly before he achieved enlightenment and Buddhahood though he changed course and came up with the Third Way--basically a path in which you don't entirely renounce the world and everything in it, but you still do focus a lot of your attention on meditation and breaking free of attachments in life. I've never been Buddhist myself, but this has been my understanding of Buddha's views on it--that his philosophy was not to actually cut off all desire, but to control all of one's desires. But this video, and a few others I've seen, seemed to promote this view of Buddha having no desires. Do different sects of Buddhists see it differently? Would someone be willing to try to clarify these point please?
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The desire to rid oneself of selfish desires is not selfish. The fireman goes to the gym to become stronger to help others The bodybuilder craves fame Discover your duty and do it as best you can and you will be free if you dedicate all fruits of your efforts to the Lord.
In the Buddha’s higher teaching (Abhidhamma), when describing the fifty two mental factors (cetasika), the Buddha has described six occasional mental factors which are called “Pakinnaka cetasika” or particulars. These six mental factors arise in association with only certain types of consciousness and not with all types of consciousness. Will or desire is one of those six occasional mental factors. They are: • Initial application (vitakka) • Sustained application (vicāra) • Decision (adhimokkha) • Effort (viriya) • Joy (pīti) • Desire (chanda) Here desire is an ethically neutral term which can take either a wholesome quality or an unwholesome quality based on the context of it’s use. The moral quality of desire is determined by the character of the consciousness that is associated with it. If the associated consciousness is wholesome, desire is wholesome while if the associated consciousness is unwholesome, the desire is unwholesome. Wholesome desire is not just something you shouldn't get rid off, on the contrary, it's something you're supposed to cultivate. In the Canki sutta of the Majjhima Nikāya Buddha said: “Desire (chanda) is very helpful for exerting. If one has no desire, there is no exertion. And as you desire, so you exert. Therefore, desire is very helpful for exerting.” Yes, different schools might have different understanding of this matter. But what I described is generally excepted by every school.
@@ИгорьС-б1б is there a social media i can message you on? im trying to find a way of life to live by and have found buddhism but i also believe in alot of what christianity says, i need help trying to figure it out so i can find the true path i believe in and why. As soon as ive found my true belief id like to dedicate alot of my life to follow the teachings of whichever i choose.
Unlike you he actually explained what he disagrees about Buddha. Yet you can't even properly argue about what's wrong his assessment. He is 100% spot on on his opinion about Buddhism. Look at the follower, monks, all they do is contemplate,meditation, practice cutting off their desires,if you think that's Good then you are a dumb person. Cutting off all desires mean you won't be able to act because according to habitual science, desire is the main driver for actions. Sitting around for 24/7(ok it might be an exaggeration) isn't good, while meditation is good, doing so for hours aren't good for health, isn't productive at all.
@@None-if3mo Buddhism can be summarised through the 4 Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path. The Eightfold Path describes how people remove themselves from suffering. Although detachment is one aspect of relieving suffering, there are prescriptions for the way we think, act and behave towards others. Its aim is not only personal harmony but community harmony as well. The big difference between Buddhism and other religions is its lack of a god to worship.
@@keibro13I think the Dogen movie was a good movie that showed this, in my opinion. Especially the parts that showed Howe the woman that lost her child was able to heal from her loss and how that Samurai dude (forget his actual title) was able to get over being haunted by his past.
If you don't understand just don't I am not extreme buddhist so i don't know the meaning it self But i don't agree when people judging about other people religion if it not harmful and it workout Like let's just say your a Christian And someone tells you your religion is bad you won't agree And their reasoning of saying it would be bc your religion is more of just miracles and relying all on god But in the end of the day it works out for you guys so they shouldn't bother "Cut of all desires" I think it means Cutting love and affection Cutting off lust or addiction or greed Just bc saying cut love and affection doesn't mean you have to just leave and do it You can live a normal life No one is forcing you to cut off But if your lover dies or parents dies it better not to let the attachments stay if you keep on going like missing them instead of moving on it a problem I think buddha also did said If you did not let go your love for someone even until your death you can be stuck as a ghost instead of getting a new life That all i really know In buddhism there is no eternal hell nor eternal heaven
As a Hindu with a philosophical respect for Buddhism, I think this is a fair point. Buddhists desire and actively seek liberation from suffering. Now, if ALL desires were to be renounced, you couldn't logically hold to Buddhism, because you would be following a desire. Therefore, I think the distinction between good desires and bad desires is essential. I think many Buddhists would agree with me though. I think Buddha obviously mean minimalize meaningless desires (like for worldly things) and focus on what's really important as much as possible. I think everyone could agree with that. I know the title is intentionally clickbaity for the algorithm and that's okay, but I thought I'd just add my two cents for those who do want to dig a bit deeper into "Eastern" thought. Peace.
"Think of the love a mother has for her only son; that is how you are to love everyone." -Buddha. Saying the Buddhist goal of detachment automatically means not caring for others is a straw man, just as suggesting that Jesus saying "Unless you hate your father and mother..." means he was advocating for not caring. Jesus and Buddha both taught detachment and love. You can have other arguments against Buddhism, but that one is weak.
One can help people that are suffering without desiring to help people that are suffering. In order to fulfill a desire to help people that are suffering then there must be people that are suffering.
Buddha don't ask for 10 percent and make the pastor rich and stay home not working but Buddha you don't need to pay and they only eat rice with water or fruit no meat like all you pastor they don't even touch that's something you don't see everyday from a pastor
The concept of giving 10% of one's income, commonly referred to as "tithing," comes from several passages in the Bible. The practice originated in the Old Testament as a way to support the Levites (the priestly tribe), the temple, and various charitable works. Here are a few key references: 1. Genesis 14:18-20 - Abraham gives a tenth of everything he has to Melchizedek, a priest of God Most High. 2. Leviticus 27:30 - This verse states, "A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord." 3. Malachi 3:10 - This passage emphasizes the importance of bringing "the whole tithe" into the storehouse so that there may be food in God's house. God promises blessings for those who do so. In the New Testament, while there is less emphasis on a specific percentage, there is still encouragement to give generously to support the work of the church and help those in need. The focus shifts more toward the attitude of the giver rather than the exact amount (see 2 Corinthians 9:7: "Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver"). Tithing in many Christian traditions today is seen as a way of demonstrating faith, gratitude to God, and support for the church's mission. However, the specific 10% figure comes directly from the Old Testament law.
The purpose of tithing, as presented in the Bible, serves several key functions: 1. Support of Religious Institutions: In the Old Testament, the tithe supported the Levites, who were set apart for religious duties and did not have their own land. The tithe provided for the priests, temple maintenance, and religious activities (Numbers 18:21). 2. Charity and Social Justice: Part of the tithe was used to care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners (Deuteronomy 14:28-29). It ensured that the most vulnerable in society were taken care of. 3. An Act of Worship: Tithing was also seen as an act of worship and acknowledgment that everything belongs to God. Giving a portion of one's income back to God was a way of expressing gratitude for His provision and blessings (Proverbs 3:9-10). 4. Building Trust in God: Tithing taught people to trust God for their needs. By giving away a portion of their resources, believers were reminded that God would continue to provide for them (Malachi 3:10). The principle of giving first, even when resources seemed scarce, was a way to develop faith in God's provision. 5. Fostering Generosity: The act of giving, whether the exact tithe or in general generosity, is meant to develop a spirit of giving and selflessness in the believer. The New Testament emphasizes this attitude (2 Corinthians 9:6-7), encouraging generosity rather than focusing on strict legal requirements. In summary, the purpose of tithing is multifaceted: it sustains religious and charitable functions, serves as an act of worship and trust, and cultivates generosity within the community.
The purpose of tithing, as presented in the Bible, serves several key functions: 1. Support of Religious Institutions: In the Old Testament, the tithe supported the Levites, who were set apart for religious duties and did not have their own land. The tithe provided for the priests, temple maintenance, and religious activities (Numbers 18:21). 2. Charity and Social Justice: Part of the tithe was used to care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners (Deuteronomy 14:28-29). It ensured that the most vulnerable in society were taken care of. 3. An Act of Worship: Tithing was also seen as an act of worship and acknowledgment that everything belongs to God. Giving a portion of one's income back to God was a way of expressing gratitude for His provision and blessings (Proverbs 3:9-10). 4. Building Trust in God: Tithing taught people to trust God for their needs. By giving away a portion of their resources, believers were reminded that God would continue to provide for them (Malachi 3:10). The principle of giving first, even when resources seemed scarce, was a way to develop faith in God's provision. 5. Fostering Generosity: The act of giving, whether the exact tithe or in general generosity, is meant to develop a spirit of giving and selflessness in the believer. The New Testament emphasizes this attitude (2 Corinthians 9:6-7), encouraging generosity rather than focusing on strict legal requirements. In summary, the purpose of tithing is multifaceted: it sustains religious and charitable functions, serves as an act of worship and trust, and cultivates generosity within the community.
The purpose of tithing, as presented in the Bible, serves several key functions: 1. Support of Religious Institutions: In the Old Testament, the tithe supported the Levites, who were set apart for religious duties and did not have their own land. The tithe provided for the priests, temple maintenance, and religious activities (Numbers 18:21). 2. Charity and Social Justice: Part of the tithe was used to care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners (Deuteronomy 14:28-29). It ensured that the most vulnerable in society were taken care of. 3. An Act of Worship: Tithing was also seen as an act of worship and acknowledgment that everything belongs to God. Giving a portion of one's income back to God was a way of expressing gratitude for His provision and blessings (Proverbs 3:9-10). 4. Building Trust in God: Tithing taught people to trust God for their needs. By giving away a portion of their resources, believers were reminded that God would continue to provide for them (Malachi 3:10). The principle of giving first, even when resources seemed scarce, was a way to develop faith in God's provision. 5. Fostering Generosity: The act of giving, whether the exact tithe or in general generosity, is meant to develop a spirit of giving and selflessness in the believer. The New Testament emphasizes this attitude (2 Corinthians 9:6-7), encouraging generosity rather than focusing on strict legal requirements. In summary, the purpose of tithing is multifaceted: it sustains religious and charitable functions, serves as an act of worship and trust, and cultivates generosity within the community.
@@alienrobotx4454I am interested to hear about the mineral water. I am interested in similar farces. Sorry if these are the wrong words. I hope you know what I am referring to.
Jesus you say son of god is actually a Buddhist monk learned teaching of lord Buddha in Nepal. Jews of that time was against foreign religion spreading rapidly. Buddhism in Jerusalem was active during jesus time. Jesus teaching is similar to lord buddha
@@andrewrivera190 I have no time for reading nonsense gospel. I am reading lord Buddha jatakas for peace and prosperity. I get all answers in jatakas so I threw bible in dustbin 😁😁. Jesus is ghost which arises after 3 days. We don't worship ghosts 👻👻👻
I could not disagree more. Respect the person not the ideology. Be careful not to insult them but they need to be told Truth and their beliefs is not worth their time and effort. Instead place your trust in Christ.
The opening of Islam is Muhammad talking to a demon and gets reassurance from his two wives, one a minor, that he was actually talking to an angel. He knew what he was talking to yet created a religion on it.
Without lies Christianity dies...at the beginning of islam prophet doesnt have 2 wife. He was monogamous until his first wife dies, which means he had only one wife at the time of revelation. 😂😂
@@FriedFlakes667 bro dont waste your time arguing him. Look at his comment.. He is just twisting english transaltion of quranic verse to make his bible true 😂. Dont waste your time
0:58: yet Martin Luther, and all of Protestantism to follow, tells us that Grace alone is the entry to heaven. That Works have zero to do with it. As for Buddha, he is actually correct.
We go to Heaven through faith. Thats what the Bible says( Ephesians 2:8-9). However, the Bible also says that if u are truly saved than u will do good works. If u could go to Heaven through good works, than Jesus died for nothing( Galatians 2:21). According to the Bible, u go to Heaven through faith alone, only bc of what Jesus did for us. But when u are truly saved u will do good works.
Lord Shri Krishna Is Ultimate Father his scriptures is that way before Christianity existed Lord jesus Christ is in Hinduism before Christianity was created you have to be open Christ and Krishna are same
0:38 buddha never said that. Go read the tripitakaya first. I used to follow cliffe but now i see he is just making things up when he does not understand something. He once said that buddha said suffering is an illusion, which buddha never said. It was then that i knew he was just pulling random things out of his inventory
The Four Noble Truths are: Life is suffering The cause of suffering is craving The end of suffering comes with an end to craving There is a path which leads one away from craving and suffering Looks like Cliffe was on the right track after-all
@@MemeTeam6900 either way it leads to people locking themselves away in remote temples to avoid caring for anything or anyone and avoid the unavoidable life that is given us all. It may well be the ultimate philosophy of selfishness that could ever possibly exist.
I'm a christian, but I think we as christians must diferenciate between someone's religious beliefs and them as people, when I was at My lowest, several musls helped me, agnostics and catholics even though I'm orthoodx we mayhave our differences but I love them as my brothers and I always will
It's a Western misinterpretation. Buddha DID talk about good bad desires, and there are two words. Tanga, the bad one, is described like concupiscence in Christianity. Chanda, the good desire, is divinely-inspired motivation. Westernised Buddhism doesn't do the real Buddhism a good deal.
The way he speaks about BUDDHISM really shows if he studied about IT BEFORE TALKING ABOUT it.Lot more to study bud, this is someone who read the wikipedia first page about buddhism and talks like he knows it all.😂 Keep promoting your faith but don’t talk about something that you don’t fully understand that’s my last thought.
This person doesn’t know anything about Buddhism! Have more respect for other religions please , that is the lesson what followers of the abramitic religions have to learn. Cliffe, you are wrong!
We don't give a damn about other religions and what their scriptures are saying as we know " Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and life ", end of story.
Jesus is the light of the world. You think other religions don't mention this light is the source of our salvation? The Buddha spoke of the luminous mind, as being the source of enlightenment, he could have easily been talking about the spirit of Christ before Jesus took physical form. Meditation in essence is a gradual process of sanctification, where a person surrenders themselves to love. This self surrender to love is faith. Faith is more than a belief, it's a state of being where a person is fully submitted to love, because God is love. It's easy to be prejudice, and make assumptions that other religions aren't true.
@@sourishbhattacharyya1779 There is only 1 religion, which is love, because God is love. Many religions just have a different way in which they express their love, just like the way you express love to your wife is not the same way you express love to your child.
@@adim00lah there is no better way to express love than to sacrifice yourself to save the souls of mankind which Jesus did. He bear the sins of you upon himself and suffered in a horrible way, we can't even imagine the pain he had to go through. Nobody loves you more than Jesus Christ, he is a good shepherd who laya down his life for his sheep which is us. The other sources called gods ( Krishna, Allah, Buddha , Shiva , Zeus ) are nothing but thieves, they only came to steal , kill and destroy. They have only one job and that is to decieve humanity and lead them to eternal condemnation. Do not decieved my friend, stay focused to Jesus if you want to save your soul.
@@sourishbhattacharyya1779 You don't know that. They also taught about love as well, why would they teach about love if they are thieves? They pointed us towards love, not away from it. A false idol is something steals our attention from love, Krishna nor Buddha did that. Krishna killed many demons while he was on earth, why would Satan work against himself?
0:30 Lord Buddha taught that cutting off unhealthy desires and attachments, which cause suffering, is essential for spiritual liberation, while good desires can aid in spiritual growth. 🙏🙏🙏
Siddhartha Gautama (AKA the Buddha) was raised by Hebrew slaves in his father's palace in Lumbini, Nepal, a city founded by Babylon and built by slaves taken from Israel. He combined his father's religion with Hebrew, and today, many Buddhists teach that to become the perfect man, one must study the life of Rabbi Yeshua hamashia, Jesus. Buddhists no longer teach jews have to be reborn as human (tradition is, Jews are black and blacks were demonic, blackened for their sins, see: Islam and LDS). Buddhists admit adherents are flocking to Jesus and leaving buddhism, and smile, and say this is good, because Jesus was the most perfect man to live. this is one reason why so many buddhists in Asia are becoming christians.
Leviticus 25 44; As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that around you. 45; You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. 46; You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as possession forever....
@@friendlydurian Here we go again with the ,, out of contex " tactic. The word bible translates to slaves is wrongly translated, It refers to a ,,servant" bound by dutie who gets PAID in goods and resources . Leviticus 25 also mentions people selling themselves as ,,slaves" . If we take it as our definition of the word, than that wouldn't make any sense since slaves don't sell themselves on there own will . It's the same as in Exodus . What was Mosses refering to is nothing more than old outdated survival tactic used by the ancient Israelites. Imagine that you are ancient Israelite farmer and your crops (YOUR ONLY SOURCE OF FOOD) aren't going so well. However your neighbour had great year . So you sold yourself as servant to him for 7 years . You to strike a deal . You work for him for this 7 years and he repays you by sharing his resources with you . Food , clothing, everything. After that you are completely free to take care of yourself. Along with few golden shakels your land lord had given you as the law of Mosses required .
The Buddha did not say “cut off all your desires” but rather eradicate those that are shackling you. The desire to be free from desires is a positive desire. Western understanding of Buddhism is so shallow.
@@temoamar7852 Yes but what is God? What is Hell? Also what Hell for exemple Western Christianity: Hell is separation from God's presence and love because you hate God. Eastern Christianity: Hell is God absolute presence and love but you hate God. What is God? So what is love? What is Jesus is Jesus is God?
@@gilgamesh7652 Here's my very unconventional interpretation of the whole thing: 1. I will define first that God is the ultimate end goal of existence, as a good starting point for both atheists and theists. 2. Therefore God is at least existence that has perfected itself, "I am that I am". He's the ultimate absolute order of this universe, and all beings need him to be created and to exist. Call Him the deterministic unifying theory of everything, whatever. He is at least all of the above. 3. Hell is whatever that is not Heaven. 4. Heaven is where you reunite with this ultimate order. Because when God is the ultimate order, there is no more chaos. No more chaos, no more suffering, no more death. Eternal blissful existence. Call this the end all be all of utopias. True utopia. 5. Even though God is the ultimate end goal of existence, there is an another programmed desire inside all biological creatures, freedom. Free will is just freedom in the mental sense, because we humans want to break free from anything that limits us, both physically and mentally. 6. You can see that, free + order is like water + oil, so such a cruel "joke" that God has played on us, that we humans desire such polar opposites. 7. Now the interesting thing here is that I think you and I can both agree that humans ultimately desire love. Love is actually a FREE choice to submit to an ORDER for the betterment of the subject of love. Imagine a marriage, a happy one, where both people have to willingly submit to each other for the betterment of the other partner. 8. So the only true way to be in this proposed utopia, without lobotomizing your freedom away, is to "Love God". And with 1 and 7, we can maybe both agree that God is Love. So you have to "Love Love" essentially, which sounds weird. 9. Sad thing here is, you can't really fully love an abstract definition or value. Maybe some people can, but definitely not everyone. So we need a perfect human representation of this ultimate God to love. By loving this human, you love God at the same time, even better. And I don't think you can find anyone who fulfills this role better than Jesus. 10. Since Jesus is abstractable to an idealistic definition in this sense, Jesus essentially has existed alongside YHWH for eternity. He is God's perfect image onto humanity. If there's another advanced alien society out there in the universe, they may have discovered their own Jesus also, call him Son of Vulcan or whatever.
CHOICE Lili With innocence you know you’re blest, you would do nobody harm Your Lord has washed away your sins, you’re bright and squeaky clean Dispatched into the closet of your mind, locked, chained, forgotten, gone But every now and then they escape to haunt you in your dreams This Lord you love has let you down, he took you in his arms Promised all your sins were gone but they’re still there it seems. - Your Lord might have forgotten them, they surface just to tempt Satisfaction from revenge, those evil hateful thoughts The live for lust and carnal pleasures lost, those were the times, the life They’re waiting still, you can return, to that which you have dreamt But take it slow, drift with the flow and take what life has brought Your Christian friends will leave your side, no loss for their contempt. - Let them bow, scrape and cry, it’s the stuff of mirth and fun They’ll do whatever it takes, to gain eternal life in the sky They’ll sacrifice their life on Earth for a promise that’s a lie Gather others to their dream with fear, fire and pain for everyone But it’s a lie we’ll take our chance with life for what it’s worth A life in Heaven cold and drab, with eternal boredom cursed. - And what will Jesus do once he’s gathered up his flock Burden them with eternal prayer, sing hymns and constant praise? An eternity of being good would be Hell you can’t unlock Better take the jar and drink, and love your life away For once in Heaven it’s all forbidden, you can’t turn back the clock One life of pleasure on this Earth than Heaven dull and gray. Blessed be.
Lol... Dude read a pamphlet and thinks he understands Buddhism... Giving up your desires is a Koan...it's a standard western reading that says this and says Karma is about justice lol 😅
If you're going to talk about Buddha at least have read the eightfold path and the four Noble truths. You're complaining about things that are not Buddhism gee what a surprise of Christian apologist being dishonest who would have ever guessed that happens every second of every day
He's not going super in depth in any of these and you're complaining that he didn't represent Buddhism completely? Buddhism isn't even supposed to be a religion, but a philosophy that Buddha discovered, which is why he comments on the thoughts of Buddha rather than Buddhism.
@@onionsans but cliffe doesn't even know Buddhist teachings. How can you say Buddha didn't mean to start a religion that's pretty weird he definitely meant to start a philosophy if you want to quibble about the difference between a philosophy and religion okay I guess you can but you should really learn about Buddhism before you say things about it or believe things. Learn before you think you know
You arent required to be a broken servant with budhism ...its a process of self improvement Christianity is a process of becoming a broken loser to be saved from hellfire once youve expired ... You are just expected to have a bad life in a bad world Then be rewarded once you are gone ....what a great business model for a church. If god is good and is happy with the way he has created human nature and the world as all humans battling against evil ..then why did he drown the world to wipe the slate clean Or make murderers out of the tribespeople of Moses in defiance of his own commandments ... just because an old man collected sticks on the Sabbath ? That's not 'good' The earth is that old 4.5 billion years give or take a few , the same science that you rely on for you modern day quality of life proves it with evidence Not by faith. And if you don't know where you've come from ...you won't know where you are going, no old testament - means - no new testament Sure the bible is older than the printing press, no contest ...the word really didn't get to all humanity until the printing press was invented plus a few hundred years for distribution to occur. Just about everything within the story of Christ and Christianity has come to us from other older religions in a process called religious syncretism Whereby each successive religion has been built upon a framework of a previous religion. For example In ancient Egypt the concept of an afterlife was pivotal to their beliefs Your heart was weighed as a judgement before you could enter. Their creation stories include a serpant in a bush and a Shephard's crook is a symbol of their god Amun ra Also known as Amen ra of simply Amen... The tag line for your prayers. Being the son of a god was common for ancient greek heroes and a Virgin birth can also be found in many ancient myths and religions ..even the story of the flood predates Judaism by a couple of thousand years appearing in the epic of Gilgamesh ...a Sumerian epic myth Gilgamesh was also credited as being the son of a god by the way. I could go on for pages but certainly You won't notice I guess
Incorrect, Christianity does not say to become a broken loser, but to recognize the fact that people are, have always been, and will always be, evildoers, and to repent of our evil against God. The process of Christianity is very much about self-improvement, because once one recognizes that they are evil, only then can they focus on being good in the eyes of the eternal God, which is all that matters in the end. There is a similarity between Christianity's and Buddha's teachings, which is that craving leads to suffering, and there are differences, such as that Buddha taught that all craving leads to suffering, whereas Christianity teaches that craving godliness (to be like God) is the only form of good craving, since God is good.
@@onionsans incorrect, even you admit it .,evil sinner If I told you I wasn't evil ...you'd argue against it and insist I were Christians want everyone around them to be evil ...they want the world to end And they believe their reward comes with death, and that you must be 'washed in the blood' to somehow be magically protected from all the supernatural mumbo jumbo
@@onionsans if god is good why did he created a system where everyone is evil and not reveal himself for around 7 million years of human existence ? If he can drown the world in an act of attempted repair of his flawed design Why did he have to wait until humans invented the printing press to get his divine word circulated amongst the masses ?
@@oftin_wong Wow you got so many things wrong 1. The bible says the earth is not even close to that old. Whether you agree with it or not, your question assumes God's existence in order to ask something about him, so this is a legitimate response. 2. God did not create the system where everyone is evil, He created man with the free will to choose to stay good or become evil, and man chose to become evil. This acts as a descending trait, since the descendants of the original man take on the personalities of their parents. The idea that God simply created man to be evil is false. Additionally, through all of the bible's timeline, God has revealed himself to his people. He has every right to not show himself to other nations, since they were the ones to turn from God in the first place. 3. The flood was not an attempt at repair, it was an act of destroying all the evil of the world. The fact that God decided to keep Noah and his family alive were due to Noah being actually righteous, apart from literally everyone else. Also, from the previous point, his design was not flawed, his creation, man, simply decided to be evil. 4. The printing press was invented in 1440. The bible was written completely and canonized (according to what the letters and gospels confirmed) FAR before the printing press was invented.
@@onionsans Site keeps removing my comments That don't contain any insults or nastiness ...they just don't want me to have any free will within their cotton wool utopia I've added my responses to my original post
It's great to take care of the poor, but i would never respect a warlord that mounted a 9yo girl.
I have zero respect for that religion for a variety of reasons, but the one that comes most readily to mind is the notion that all people must be converted, killed, or _TAXED._ That last bit, "taxed", is what ruins it, because it's saying _"What you're doing is such an affront to Allah that you must be exterminated... oh you got $5? Shiet, then we all cool, bruh."_
*If your principles can be bought, **_then they're NOT priniciples._*
"It's only a sin if you can't buy your way out of justice."
@@TROOPERfarcry obviously, we're talking about Scientology, right? 😂😂
@@joeluigi2008 I don't know much of anything about Scientology... except that Germany doesn't recognize it as a religion, but instead it is categorized as a business.
Peace be upon this man that may or may not be the prophet of Allah...
@@TROOPERfarcrybetter than the centuries of time Christians tortured in anybody for not being Christian
Please do not take this as disrespect, but The Buddha did not teach to cut off all desires. He did differentiate between good desires (chanda) and unwholesome desires (tanha). He said to cut off tanha only. Clearly a person needs desire to sit and meditate, help others, teach etc.... The Buddha didn't abandon the world, one of the first things he did was help others by teaching the dharma.
Finally someone who knows.
To what end? If you correctly differentiate between these desires, can you avoid rebirth and reach Nirvana? Or is that something only a monk or nun practising to deny ALL desires can achieve? All you're actually saying is that Buddha taught people how to be good, which is what most religions teach by the way. The question you fail to address is why/for what? The "why/for what" is the difference between all other religions and Christianity.
@@jdshl8423 Chanda is the motivation that helps you renounce worldliness and embrace meditation and a religious life. Tanha is a subconscious desire that is often out of our control and is the Christian concupiscence. The only way to defeat it is to have enough Chanda to "deny ourselves and pick up our crosses".
@@maciejrzepczyk6562 , to what end? I know exactly why I take up my cross, and it is nothing like what you attempt to draw a parallel with.
@@jdshl8423
Yes, and we do it out of love for our Christ. "Work-based" religions are meaningless in the sense that the scale (in this case, between "chanda" and "tanha") is so arbitrary that it is entirely a human invention. Love, on the other hand, is outside of humanity. Love is objective, eternal, and real. Love is the ultimate source of motivation in all human beings. The absolute common denominator.
They thought they had him - but no
I've lived in Buddhist countries and I don't think most people, especially Westerners, really understand the concepts behind self and suffering in these cultures.
I grew up as Buddhist then I called out to Buddha to help me with severe depression and allah too but they don’t respond. Only God of the Bible respond in Jesus name, now I am the only Christian in my family because I know the creator of heaven and earth. That holds the past, the future and the present. What I was told was not the truth, I had to seek the truth for myself and I stumbled on the gospel through a comic about heaven and hell as most Asians are intrigued by the Spiritual realm.
The main goal of buddhism is detachment from the material world hence no suffering. It's workable..for a while... if you are a hermit living in the mountains alone. But what about the living? What about family and friends? It doesnt work that way. That's why buddhist fail to understand self peace doesn't come from one's effort. You can't do that. You need God. By his grace and mercy. This could be an alien concept cos i come from a staunch buddhist background and it took me a while to understand
Both the the replies to your comment proves your point exactly. People really do not understand buddhism at all, especially westerners.
@@BornR3STLESS i do believe Buddhism is more of a philosophy rather than a religion
@@CherryTree277 Philosophy in my opinion is an integral part of most religions. Religion is more than just doctrine.
When you study religion, you find that there's particular cultures, arts, methods, practices, teachers in most main religions.
Buddhism itself can be thought of as a science, a practice, a particular way of living in and understanding the world.
As someone who does buddhist practices like meditation, I will admit that many of concepts found in Buddhism are quite difficult for many people to understand. Even I had a hard time understanding some of the teachings at first, but over time, they made a lot more sense.
Christianity is definitely is easier to practice, comprehend, and accept relative to Buddhism. There's less you have to do and understand to be a Christian. At least when it comes to Protestant Christianity.
I'm not implying one is better than the other, but rather, one is a lot simpler than the other.
I was as a teenager very into buddhist aesthetic (because of anime, some may call it cringe, its fine). But then I understood about karma and why its important in buddhism to achieve nirvana. For them the cycle of reencarnation is so bad, to return to this world as a totally distinct person or even species and suffer is such a cruel destiny that they must escape the cycle, and the bodhisattvas like the dalai lama are souls that keep avoiding full buddhahood becuase they want to guide humanity to that stupid state. I totally agree that if reencarnation was the actual after life and karma was real metric then indeed life itself is disgusting,but I knew there was something profoundly wrong with that kind of philosophy. Thats one of the reason I went back Christianity and I defend its the truth, life is a beautiful creation of God and the path to redemption of our specie and the whole earth is through him and his compasion and love.
Fr dude, Jesus is the way, is the truth, and is the life. No one goes through the Father except Him. God bless you.
The bible says what you sow is what you reap, so this is certainly karma. You believe Jesus paid your karmic debt with his sacrifice, so how can you not believe in karma?
The thing is that karma goes deeper than debts, it also effects our day to day lives and causes suffering. If a person is addicted to drugs or sex, this too is karma, and it has a destructive effect on people's lives.
Jesus took care of the wages of sin, which is death, but he cannot remove sin from your heart and mind with a mere sacrifice. You have to sacrifice yourself to Jesus to purify these karmic stains.
As a Christian who studies Buddhism, anime knows almost nothing about Buddhism. Suffering is actually a wrong translation for dukkha.
The whole point is to remove yourself from karmic reaction. Karma simply means actions. Everything takes actions. Breathing is an action. Positive actions give positive results but this is still impermanence. God is unchanging and eternal. There must be an unchanging and eternal quality within us that goes beyond divine and demonic . To reach that state is Nirvana, some may call it transcendental. The tao says weather one goes up or down a ladder his position is shaky stand firmly on the ground. Be ground in the eternal unchanging reality.
@@anthonydowney-uo2zo Some actions don't create karma though, they are known as akarmas. This type of action is how enlightened people act.
Like when God acts, he does not create karma for himself, all God's actions are akarma, same with all enlightened beings.
Akarmas transcend karma. When a person is properly aligned with the Tao all his actions become akarma or what they call wu wei.
Buddha clearly teaches about the middle way which aligns with the Cliffe’s statement more than he realizes
Nothing cliff said was wrong…
@HunterJames-xm6qt he was incorrect to claim that Buddha directs us to cut off desire. Buddha understands the human condition and guides followers to find the "middle path", balancing humbleness and reasonable comfort and luxury.
@@Blitzmagee this is correct, there were and are other sages that did encourage followers to cut desires entirely, Buddha wasn’t one of them.
Jesus is our Lord and Savior
Who raised Jesus from the dead...
@@elusiveeagle8597 Muhammad 😂
@@elusiveeagle8597 Since Jesus is God and doesn't live within the bonds of time and a limited lifespan he can resurrect himself easy peasy. It is just flesh and bone.
,,cut of your desires" is an expended version of cut yourself of from sin
and ,,cut of your desires" is not meant in absoulut sense, you can't cut of your desires it is impossible, so its actually also meant in differentiating between ,,right and wrong" desires and cutting those of
I could be wrong, but the contemplate part seems to be indicating he is cutting off more than sins.
Or why spend so much time contemplating?
@@phamtom27070according to what i heard about buddah i have to agree he did cut off more than the sins
Now you are looking for justification, instead of understanding what exactly buddha was doing. Through contemplation or meditation, he dissociated from thoughts of all nature, in order to become empty, and learn to observe incoming or outgoing thoughts only as an observer. The moment he learned this skill, he began to distinguish and explore other mental states, consciously, which allowed him to connect with demons and spirits. The demons are deceiving spirits, and it is impossible to learn about truth by communicating with them. Bible is very clear on this topic. All practices of idle worship and practice of witchcraft is very similar to the practice of Buddha. The only difference is the intention, but the process is the same, which means that it is communication with guides and evil spirits that can show you want you want to see like in a virtual reality. You will not be able to distinguish false from the truth as you don't control their environment, but only able to view what is shown to you. To be able to control their environment you need to be a 4 dimensional being, that can control 4-dimensional space. People who do this, will end up in hell.
Maybe you should go and ask the monks and nuns what it is they are cutting off. They are working on cutting off ALL desires. Not just sin.
@@jdshl8423 then ,,getting rid off all desires" will be the one desire they won't get rid off
but i just took a look in it and as far as i understood, they are defining ,,desire" not as i do, for them it seems to be about the concept of ,,wanting something and suffering because you don't have it" therefore getting rid of all desires
Anyone who says they have a tremendous amount of respect for Mohammad hasn’t really read anything about him.
Buddha Dharma is not about abandoning the world. The opposite is true: we are taught to love the world and help all beings. However, we are to cut ourselves from attachment. We can have love and compassion without attachment.
Theists including myself do not accept that atheists have met their burden of proof. There are 4,200 religious groups in the world today. However Christianity stands out from all those. The Egyptians believed that the pharaoh was the 'living Horus'. The ancient Egyptians had many different beliefs about the god Horus. One of the most common beliefs was that Horus was the son of Isis and Osiris. After Osiris was murdered by his brother Seth, Horus fought with Seth for the throne of Egypt.
Dionysus was the last god to enter Olympus. Dionysus was the son of Zeus and the Theban princess Semele. There are 10 that pre-date Jesus. Horus, Attis of Phrygia, Zoroaster/Zarathustra, Glycon, Heracles, Dionysus, Romulus, Odysseus, Krishna, Buddha
Buddhism which is based on Atheism No God but we are Gods in our inner being and need to bring it out and will evolve in Gods after many lives.
There are 30 Million Gods of Hinduism. The concept of Hinduism is nothing more than fantasy or mythology. The three most important are Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Being the creator god, Brahma's name sounds very similar to the divine entity known as Brahman. For Hinduism, It is Brahma who brought all things into being. All is based on Reincarnation. This cycle of reincarnation is called Samsara.
Jews Still expect the Messiah to come but in their Torah: "Daniel 7 & 9" it is written that the Messiah has to come 70 years before the destruction of the Temple, then Who was it? There is not a true Jew because there is not a High priest and not an Arc of the Covenant for the Great Day of Atonement. Jews cannot practice their religion and don’t. From the 15 M Jews in the world only 5 M are practicing it as far as possible.
Sikhism is a mixture religion founded in the 16th century in India and specific Asian Sikhs believe that human beings spend their time in a cycle of birth, life, and rebirth. They share this belief with followers of other Indian religious traditions such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.
Shintoism has no gods. Nor does it provide a moral code as most other religions do. It is thus not concerned with instructing one on how to live in the world. It also does not try to explain how the world works. Shintoism simply focuses on discovering ways of communicating with kami Cao Dai. It is Like Buddhism there is no God We will be gods. Neo-Paganism + Worship of Nature or elements
Unitarian-Universalism Do not worship a God or Gods but belief in doing good. This is a basic group to whom most all Cults are connected. All are based on accomplishing and developing the good that is in Us by working hard.
Islam is based on the Abrahamic religions and much copied from the Bible mixed with other pagan religions. It does not fit in the western cultures with degrading women and promoting violence. Started by a 700 AD warlord, rapist and Caravan robber. Killing innocent merchants steeling their Camels and possessions. Raping Women making them sex slaves for all the man with him. Is not worth to be called a Religion.
Mormonism is based on Free Masonry. Joseph Smith was a Free Mason. That is an Organization with particular goals with the book of Mormon. and the Angel mooneye who gave it on golden plates.
All of the 4200 world religions fit in one of those categories
Christianity is what God works in us by Faith and grace through the HOLY SPIRIT. It stands apart from ALL other world religions and is not culture-based like Sikhism and most of the Asian religions where you need to wear a headdress
Take your pick I did mine. Christianity starting with Israel is the only Religion that is old and fit in with all cultures of the World. Atheism is total nonsense and can be categorized as a religion, based on no facts but you have to believe it. Much more people come from atheism to Christianity than the other way around. Conversions do not happen from Christianity to these other religions but from the others to Christianity. A very small number has happened from Christians to Islam but those were only name-Christians. Christians have always been persecuted by Atheist regimes and other religions, and not the other way around. And still are.
What did I just read?
@@AtALossForWords There is Only One truth. It is Jesus Who paid the price for us, who belief.
I think the way he talked about how cutting off desire is taught in Buddhism paints a wrong picture of the Buddha's teachings. The Buddha taught about getting rid of wordly desires (money, material wealth, alcohol, etc.) not about cutting off the desire to help people, he actually encouraged his followers to give even if they had little.
This video brings attention to something I've been wondering about for some time: Buddha's philosophy. Could any Buddhists out there help clarify this for me please?
It was my understanding in the past that Buddha's stance was the Third Way. First, he led a life of decadence and pleasure as a prince; a few years later he became an ascetic, meditating all the time, living in poverty, and starving himself. Shortly before he achieved enlightenment and Buddhahood though he changed course and came up with the Third Way--basically a path in which you don't entirely renounce the world and everything in it, but you still do focus a lot of your attention on meditation and breaking free of attachments in life.
I've never been Buddhist myself, but this has been my understanding of Buddha's views on it--that his philosophy was not to actually cut off all desire, but to control all of one's desires. But this video, and a few others I've seen, seemed to promote this view of Buddha having no desires.
Do different sects of Buddhists see it differently? Would someone be willing to try to clarify these point please?
The desire to rid oneself of selfish desires is not selfish.
The fireman goes to the gym to become stronger to help others
The bodybuilder craves fame
Discover your duty and do it as best you can and you will be free if you dedicate all fruits of your efforts to the Lord.
In the Buddha’s higher teaching (Abhidhamma), when describing the fifty two mental factors (cetasika), the Buddha has described six occasional mental factors which are called “Pakinnaka cetasika” or particulars. These six mental factors arise in association with only certain types of consciousness and not with all types of consciousness. Will or desire is one of those six occasional mental factors. They are:
• Initial application (vitakka)
• Sustained application (vicāra)
• Decision (adhimokkha)
• Effort (viriya)
• Joy (pīti)
• Desire (chanda)
Here desire is an ethically neutral term which can take either a wholesome quality or an unwholesome quality based on the context of it’s use.
The moral quality of desire is determined by the character of the consciousness that is associated with it. If the associated consciousness is wholesome, desire is wholesome while if the associated consciousness is unwholesome, the desire is unwholesome.
Wholesome desire is not just something you shouldn't get rid off, on the contrary, it's something you're supposed to cultivate.
In the Canki sutta of the Majjhima Nikāya Buddha said:
“Desire (chanda) is very helpful for exerting. If one has no desire, there is no exertion. And as you desire, so you exert. Therefore, desire is very helpful for exerting.”
Yes, different schools might have different understanding of this matter. But what I described is generally excepted by every school.
@@ИгорьС-б1б is there a social media i can message you on? im trying to find a way of life to live by and have found buddhism but i also believe in alot of what christianity says, i need help trying to figure it out so i can find the true path i believe in and why. As soon as ive found my true belief id like to dedicate alot of my life to follow the teachings of whichever i choose.
@@unknown-xi6dg do you have telegram?
@@unknown-xi6dg TH-cam doesn't allow to share social medias in comments, I'm afraid
The devil doesn’t have to defeat you the devil doesn’t have to destroy you the devil just has to Distract you from Jesus
Cliffe’s assessment of Buddhism is incredibly shallow.
Explain. No argument = Shallow opinion
Unlike you he actually explained what he disagrees about Buddha. Yet you can't even properly argue about what's wrong his assessment. He is 100% spot on on his opinion about Buddhism. Look at the follower, monks, all they do is contemplate,meditation, practice cutting off their desires,if you think that's Good then you are a dumb person. Cutting off all desires mean you won't be able to act because according to habitual science, desire is the main driver for actions. Sitting around for 24/7(ok it might be an exaggeration) isn't good, while meditation is good, doing so for hours aren't good for health, isn't productive at all.
because he wasn't assessing Buddhism as a religion, because Buddha never wanted to start a religion
@@None-if3mo Buddhism can be summarised through the 4 Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path. The Eightfold Path describes how people remove themselves from suffering. Although detachment is one aspect of relieving suffering, there are prescriptions for the way we think, act and behave towards others. Its aim is not only personal harmony but community harmony as well. The big difference between Buddhism and other religions is its lack of a god to worship.
@@keibro13I think the Dogen movie was a good movie that showed this, in my opinion. Especially the parts that showed Howe the woman that lost her child was able to heal from her loss and how that Samurai dude (forget his actual title) was able to get over being haunted by his past.
If you don't understand just don't
I am not extreme buddhist so i don't know the meaning it self
But i don't agree when people judging about other people religion if it not harmful and it workout
Like let's just say your a Christian
And someone tells you your religion is bad you won't agree
And their reasoning of saying it would be bc your religion is more of just miracles and relying all on god
But in the end of the day it works out for you guys so they shouldn't bother
"Cut of all desires"
I think it means
Cutting love and affection
Cutting off lust or addiction or greed
Just bc saying cut love and affection doesn't mean you have to just leave and do it
You can live a normal life
No one is forcing you to cut off
But if your lover dies or parents dies it better not to let the attachments stay if you keep on going like missing them instead of moving on it a problem
I think buddha also did said
If you did not let go your love for someone even until your death you can be stuck as a ghost instead of getting a new life
That all i really know
In buddhism there is no eternal hell nor eternal heaven
For all of yall christians who think yall know buddhism: YOU DON'T! Proof is in this comment section.
... 4 Noble Truth.....
..... Buddhism......
As a Hindu with a philosophical respect for Buddhism, I think this is a fair point. Buddhists desire and actively seek liberation from suffering. Now, if ALL desires were to be renounced, you couldn't logically hold to Buddhism, because you would be following a desire. Therefore, I think the distinction between good desires and bad desires is essential. I think many Buddhists would agree with me though. I think Buddha obviously mean minimalize meaningless desires (like for worldly things) and focus on what's really important as much as possible. I think everyone could agree with that. I know the title is intentionally clickbaity for the algorithm and that's okay, but I thought I'd just add my two cents for those who do want to dig a bit deeper into "Eastern" thought. Peace.
"Think of the love a mother has for her only son; that is how you are to love everyone." -Buddha. Saying the Buddhist goal of detachment automatically means not caring for others is a straw man, just as suggesting that Jesus saying "Unless you hate your father and mother..." means he was advocating for not caring. Jesus and Buddha both taught detachment and love. You can have other arguments against Buddhism, but that one is weak.
Buddha was Makhimsih, one of the twelve Sons of GOD who correctly taught that sins are paid for by kharma and further incarnations.
He did not know anything about Buddha. He just pretend to know.
One can help people that are suffering without desiring to help people that are suffering. In order to fulfill a desire to help people that are suffering then there must be people that are suffering.
Buddha don't ask for 10 percent and make the pastor rich and stay home not working but Buddha you don't need to pay and they only eat rice with water or fruit no meat like all you pastor they don't even touch that's something you don't see everyday from a pastor
The concept of giving 10% of one's income, commonly referred to as "tithing," comes from several passages in the Bible. The practice originated in the Old Testament as a way to support the Levites (the priestly tribe), the temple, and various charitable works.
Here are a few key references:
1. Genesis 14:18-20 - Abraham gives a tenth of everything he has to Melchizedek, a priest of God Most High.
2. Leviticus 27:30 - This verse states, "A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord; it is holy to the Lord."
3. Malachi 3:10 - This passage emphasizes the importance of bringing "the whole tithe" into the storehouse so that there may be food in God's house. God promises blessings for those who do so.
In the New Testament, while there is less emphasis on a specific percentage, there is still encouragement to give generously to support the work of the church and help those in need. The focus shifts more toward the attitude of the giver rather than the exact amount (see 2 Corinthians 9:7: "Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver").
Tithing in many Christian traditions today is seen as a way of demonstrating faith, gratitude to God, and support for the church's mission. However, the specific 10% figure comes directly from the Old Testament law.
The purpose of tithing, as presented in the Bible, serves several key functions:
1. Support of Religious Institutions: In the Old Testament, the tithe supported the Levites, who were set apart for religious duties and did not have their own land. The tithe provided for the priests, temple maintenance, and religious activities (Numbers 18:21).
2. Charity and Social Justice: Part of the tithe was used to care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners (Deuteronomy 14:28-29). It ensured that the most vulnerable in society were taken care of.
3. An Act of Worship: Tithing was also seen as an act of worship and acknowledgment that everything belongs to God. Giving a portion of one's income back to God was a way of expressing gratitude for His provision and blessings (Proverbs 3:9-10).
4. Building Trust in God: Tithing taught people to trust God for their needs. By giving away a portion of their resources, believers were reminded that God would continue to provide for them (Malachi 3:10). The principle of giving first, even when resources seemed scarce, was a way to develop faith in God's provision.
5. Fostering Generosity: The act of giving, whether the exact tithe or in general generosity, is meant to develop a spirit of giving and selflessness in the believer. The New Testament emphasizes this attitude (2 Corinthians 9:6-7), encouraging generosity rather than focusing on strict legal requirements.
In summary, the purpose of tithing is multifaceted: it sustains religious and charitable functions, serves as an act of worship and trust, and cultivates generosity within the community.
The purpose of tithing, as presented in the Bible, serves several key functions:
1. Support of Religious Institutions: In the Old Testament, the tithe supported the Levites, who were set apart for religious duties and did not have their own land. The tithe provided for the priests, temple maintenance, and religious activities (Numbers 18:21).
2. Charity and Social Justice: Part of the tithe was used to care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners (Deuteronomy 14:28-29). It ensured that the most vulnerable in society were taken care of.
3. An Act of Worship: Tithing was also seen as an act of worship and acknowledgment that everything belongs to God. Giving a portion of one's income back to God was a way of expressing gratitude for His provision and blessings (Proverbs 3:9-10).
4. Building Trust in God: Tithing taught people to trust God for their needs. By giving away a portion of their resources, believers were reminded that God would continue to provide for them (Malachi 3:10). The principle of giving first, even when resources seemed scarce, was a way to develop faith in God's provision.
5. Fostering Generosity: The act of giving, whether the exact tithe or in general generosity, is meant to develop a spirit of giving and selflessness in the believer. The New Testament emphasizes this attitude (2 Corinthians 9:6-7), encouraging generosity rather than focusing on strict legal requirements.
In summary, the purpose of tithing is multifaceted: it sustains religious and charitable functions, serves as an act of worship and trust, and cultivates generosity within the community.
The purpose of tithing, as presented in the Bible, serves several key functions:
1. Support of Religious Institutions: In the Old Testament, the tithe supported the Levites, who were set apart for religious duties and did not have their own land. The tithe provided for the priests, temple maintenance, and religious activities (Numbers 18:21).
2. Charity and Social Justice: Part of the tithe was used to care for the poor, widows, orphans, and foreigners (Deuteronomy 14:28-29). It ensured that the most vulnerable in society were taken care of.
3. An Act of Worship: Tithing was also seen as an act of worship and acknowledgment that everything belongs to God. Giving a portion of one's income back to God was a way of expressing gratitude for His provision and blessings (Proverbs 3:9-10).
4. Building Trust in God: Tithing taught people to trust God for their needs. By giving away a portion of their resources, believers were reminded that God would continue to provide for them (Malachi 3:10). The principle of giving first, even when resources seemed scarce, was a way to develop faith in God's provision.
5. Fostering Generosity: The act of giving, whether the exact tithe or in general generosity, is meant to develop a spirit of giving and selflessness in the believer. The New Testament emphasizes this attitude (2 Corinthians 9:6-7), encouraging generosity rather than focusing on strict legal requirements.
In summary, the purpose of tithing is multifaceted: it sustains religious and charitable functions, serves as an act of worship and trust, and cultivates generosity within the community.
我是中国的基督徒，我想说佛教并不是很多西方人理解的那样，佛教只会让人越来越麻痹自己疏离自己，众所周知中国是一个基本上以佛教信仰为底色的国家但是中国人的道德感却越来越低下，我感谢耶稣让我找到了我灵魂的方向而不是佛陀
I am very interested in your experiences. Would you please tell me more? What are some of the detriments of Buddhism?
@@lucyferos205 哦，你好，我直接进入主题，佛教是一种以相对主义为底色的古代心理学系统，是不存在最高造物主的一种自我安慰的心理疏导型信仰，在中国，佛教是一种混合了各种中国古代哲学的大杂烩，在这种大杂烩型的体系中任何人都可以为自己找到自己想要的结论，没有任何标准的道德观，只是让信仰佛教的人产生一种自以为是的所谓善，比方说，很多佛教徒会有一些以（众生平等）为理由的放弃小动物的活动，以让小动物自由的名义，在有很多人活动的公园放置大量蛇类或者根本不了解动物习性，在寒冷地区的野外放养很多热带地区的乌龟，这些乌龟到冬季都会被寒冷的冬季气候冻死，完全没有任何科学规律的一厢情愿的表达自己的所谓善意，甚至出现了很多放生瓶装矿泉水的闹剧，这些新闻在中国有很多，非常荒诞，希望你可以理解我的意思，如果你有更多具体的疑问我们可以继续聊，祝你平安
@@alienrobotx4454I am interested to hear about the mineral water. I am interested in similar farces. Sorry if these are the wrong words. I hope you know what I am referring to.
@@lucyferos205 😂🤣是的，很多佛教徒购买大量的矿泉水之后在公园的水池里将矿泉水倒入公园的水池中并念佛教的祷告词，因为他们认为矿泉水中有很多有机生物被残忍的囚禁了，这很残忍，所以他们决定以佛陀的名义给予这些微生物自由🤣
這證明你不是真的佛教徒，真的佛教徒從不認為佛法是相對主義的，相反的佛法與你們的一神論都有最初的源頭。
你們基督教信仰的不就是耶穌復活還有祂的天父，天父就是最初的源頭。佛法里的真理也提到過最初的源頭，很多佛教徒就是因為不知道這個才轉去一神教。
佛教強調的是自主自修才可以解脫，你們一神教因為神而解脫。佛教的解脫比你們一神教的解脫難，再加上你們又要在這個世界享樂放縱慾望，你們的宗教可以吃肉佛教是不能吃肉就能證明這一點，而這點真是佛陀在幾千年前就提到過的其中一個對話。
佛教講的是心法，不是心理學，還有人認為是哲學和形而上學，簡直可笑！
佛教和那些一神教都有神秘學的理論，很多人都看不懂佛經，可是很多人卻看懂聖經和可蘭經。
佛教強調的是覺悟和心法，這是正常的人非常難做到的，你們一神教不就是只要反省並且跟隨神就能解脫，只反省不是真正的覺悟。
耶穌在消失的18年中學到了佛法。這是你們之前的教光曾經發表過的。你們基督教徒認為這是一個偽書。荒謬的是，佛教的歷史文獻也記錄了耶穌學習佛法的歷史文件。您的基督徒和教會試圖掩蓋真相，以欺騙所有人並在謊言中生活，而無需認識自己。即使他們知道，他們也盲目相信基督。這種宗教是融合了佛法和猶太宗教的特徵，也抄襲許多古老的神話故事。不好的是，您的基督教是抄襲其他宗教和神話的！更可悲的是，許多宗教繼承了基督教，而且分裂成很多新分支。伊斯蘭教是最有趣的，據說他們的先知是上帝的最後一個先知。
更不用說猶太宗教的神，這都是一個虛假的上帝，聲稱是富有同情心但殘酷的！你們的信仰是假的。你們所信仰的就是亞伯拉罕派系的幻想！而這個在佛經有提到過的妄想跟你們的信仰很像！
Buddha never wrong.
Jesus you say son of god is actually a Buddhist monk learned teaching of lord Buddha in Nepal. Jews of that time was against foreign religion spreading rapidly. Buddhism in Jerusalem was active during jesus time. Jesus teaching is similar to lord buddha
Have you read the gospel?
@@andrewrivera190 I have no time for reading nonsense gospel. I am reading lord Buddha jatakas for peace and prosperity. I get all answers in jatakas so I threw bible in dustbin 😁😁. Jesus is ghost which arises after 3 days. We don't worship ghosts 👻👻👻
@@veshrajshrestha3710 you worship a demon with 6 arms.
@veshrajshrestha3710 you worship a demon with 6 arms.
@@veshrajshrestha3710 you worship a demon with 6 arms.
I like what you’re doing keep it up!❤
There is a huge difference in reality and a imaginary comic book
I agree Jesus is the truth ✝️☦️🙏
@@Metanoia7-J everyone has their own version of truth, but Buddhism is about facts my friend 👍
I could not disagree more. Respect the person not the ideology. Be careful not to insult them but they need to be told Truth and their beliefs is not worth their time and effort. Instead place your trust in Christ.
So sick of the compromises. There’s nothing wrong with having your own worldview that you think is correct.
You know, I feel the same way about Christ. But he was still wrong too.
The opening of Islam is Muhammad talking to a demon and gets reassurance from his two wives, one a minor, that he was actually talking to an angel. He knew what he was talking to yet created a religion on it.
Without lies Christianity dies...at the beginning of islam prophet doesnt have 2 wife. He was monogamous until his first wife dies, which means he had only one wife at the time of revelation. 😂😂
He only had 1 wife at that time. So since u couldn’t even notice that, I won’t take anything you say seriously 😂
@@FriedFlakes667 bro dont waste your time arguing him. Look at his comment.. He is just twisting english transaltion of quranic verse to make his bible true 😂. Dont waste your time
@@Allinone-dr5zj and according to him, anything under 18 for all times and places and maturity is bad😂
Little knowledge is very dangerous.
0:58: yet Martin Luther, and all of Protestantism to follow, tells us that Grace alone is the entry to heaven. That Works have zero to do with it. As for Buddha, he is actually correct.
We go to Heaven through faith. Thats what the Bible says( Ephesians 2:8-9). However, the Bible also says that if u are truly saved than u will do good works. If u could go to Heaven through good works, than Jesus died for nothing( Galatians 2:21). According to the Bible, u go to Heaven through faith alone, only bc of what Jesus did for us. But when u are truly saved u will do good works.
That's a very simplistic way to view Budism lmao
Science of all Nature,
Science of all Beings,
Science of all Minds,
..... Buddhism........
Lord Shri Krishna Is Ultimate Father his scriptures is that way before Christianity existed Lord jesus Christ is in Hinduism before Christianity was created you have to be open Christ and Krishna are same
0:38 buddha never said that. Go read the tripitakaya first. I used to follow cliffe but now i see he is just making things up when he does not understand something. He once said that buddha said suffering is an illusion, which buddha never said. It was then that i knew he was just pulling random things out of his inventory
The Four Noble Truths are:
Life is suffering
The cause of suffering is craving
The end of suffering comes with an end to craving
There is a path which leads one away from craving and suffering
Looks like Cliffe was on the right track after-all
Avoid suffering, avoid life?
@@somethingtothinkabout167 he didn't say to avoid life, he said not to get attached. Loving and being attached is different
@@william3347 no. He said the complete opposite of what buddha said
@@MemeTeam6900 either way it leads to people locking themselves away in remote temples to avoid caring for anything or anyone and avoid the unavoidable life that is given us all. It may well be the ultimate philosophy of selfishness that could ever possibly exist.
I'm a christian, but I think we as christians must diferenciate between someone's religious beliefs and them as people, when I was at My lowest, several musls helped me, agnostics and catholics even though I'm orthoodx we mayhave our differences but I love them as my brothers and I always will
It's a Western misinterpretation. Buddha DID talk about good bad desires, and there are two words. Tanga, the bad one, is described like concupiscence in Christianity. Chanda, the good desire, is divinely-inspired motivation. Westernised Buddhism doesn't do the real Buddhism a good deal.
The way he speaks about BUDDHISM really shows if he studied about IT BEFORE TALKING ABOUT it.Lot more to study bud, this is someone who read the wikipedia first page about buddhism and talks like he knows it all.😂
Keep promoting your faith but don’t talk about something that you don’t fully understand that’s my last thought.
Amen Hallelujah❤😊
This person doesn’t know anything about Buddhism! Have more respect for other religions please , that is the lesson what followers of the abramitic religions have to learn. Cliffe, you are wrong!
We don't give a damn about other religions and what their scriptures are saying as we know " Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and life ", end of story.
Jesus is the light of the world. You think other religions don't mention this light is the source of our salvation? The Buddha spoke of the luminous mind, as being the source of enlightenment, he could have easily been talking about the spirit of Christ before Jesus took physical form.
Meditation in essence is a gradual process of sanctification, where a person surrenders themselves to love. This self surrender to love is faith. Faith is more than a belief, it's a state of being where a person is fully submitted to love, because God is love.
It's easy to be prejudice, and make assumptions that other religions aren't true.
@@adim00lah good luck practicing other religions bro. You have lot of surprises waiting for you in afterlife.
@@sourishbhattacharyya1779 There is only 1 religion, which is love, because God is love. Many religions just have a different way in which they express their love, just like the way you express love to your wife is not the same way you express love to your child.
@@adim00lah there is no better way to express love than to sacrifice yourself to save the souls of mankind which Jesus did. He bear the sins of you upon himself and suffered in a horrible way, we can't even imagine the pain he had to go through. Nobody loves you more than Jesus Christ, he is a good shepherd who laya down his life for his sheep which is us. The other sources called gods ( Krishna, Allah, Buddha , Shiva , Zeus ) are nothing but thieves, they only came to steal , kill and destroy. They have only one job and that is to decieve humanity and lead them to eternal condemnation. Do not decieved my friend, stay focused to Jesus if you want to save your soul.
@@sourishbhattacharyya1779 You don't know that. They also taught about love as well, why would they teach about love if they are thieves? They pointed us towards love, not away from it.
A false idol is something steals our attention from love, Krishna nor Buddha did that. Krishna killed many demons while he was on earth, why would Satan work against himself?
0:30 Lord Buddha taught that cutting off unhealthy desires and attachments, which cause suffering, is essential for spiritual liberation, while good desires can aid in spiritual growth. 🙏🙏🙏
Jesus loves u
dont think he knows what the Buddha taught.
Aaaaand Cliff Knechtle completely misses the point. Anybody surprised?
We're all wrong!
Siddhartha Gautama (AKA the Buddha) was raised by Hebrew slaves in his father's palace in Lumbini, Nepal, a city founded by Babylon and built by slaves taken from Israel. He combined his father's religion with Hebrew, and today, many Buddhists teach that to become the perfect man, one must study the life of Rabbi Yeshua hamashia, Jesus. Buddhists no longer teach jews have to be reborn as human (tradition is, Jews are black and blacks were demonic, blackened for their sins, see: Islam and LDS). Buddhists admit adherents are flocking to Jesus and leaving buddhism, and smile, and say this is good, because Jesus was the most perfect man to live. this is one reason why so many buddhists in Asia are becoming christians.
Bro are you off your nuts?😂😂😂 I think you have a mental distress go and sleep and have some rest😂😂😂😅
Leviticus 25
44; As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that around you.
45; You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property.
46; You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as possession forever....
Buddha raised by Hebrew slaves? I've never heard such a thing. Where did you hear this?
Christians just make up stuff lol
@@friendlydurian
Here we go again with the
,, out of contex " tactic.
The word bible translates to slaves is wrongly translated,
It refers to a ,,servant" bound by dutie who gets PAID in goods and resources .
Leviticus 25 also mentions people selling themselves as ,,slaves" .
If we take it as our definition of the word, than that wouldn't make any sense since slaves don't sell themselves on there own will .
It's the same as in Exodus .
What was Mosses refering to is nothing more than old outdated survival tactic used by the ancient Israelites.
Imagine that you are ancient Israelite farmer and your crops (YOUR ONLY SOURCE OF FOOD) aren't going so well.
However your neighbour had great year .
So you sold yourself as servant to him for 7 years .
You to strike a deal .
You work for him for this 7 years and he repays you by sharing his resources with you . Food , clothing, everything.
After that you are completely free to take care of yourself.
Along with few golden shakels your land lord had given you as the law of Mosses required .
U didn't understand buddha ,,,,and desire which buddha mentioned,,,,,first learn and study buddhism with real buddhist master,,,after then talk
The Buddha did not say “cut off all your desires” but rather eradicate those that are shackling you. The desire to be free from desires is a positive desire. Western understanding of Buddhism is so shallow.
if you dont understand buddhist philosophy better not to speak about it
What is true
Jesus!
@@temoamar7852And what is Jesus?
And what is a Son of God?
And what is God?
Jesus is our saviour, he saves people from hell. He is God the creator of the world and he loves you. If you ask me anything I'll try to answer you.
@@temoamar7852 Yes but what is God?
What is Hell?
Also what Hell for exemple
Western Christianity: Hell is separation from God's presence and love because you hate God.
Eastern Christianity: Hell is God absolute presence and love but you hate God.
What is God?
So what is love?
What is Jesus is Jesus is God?
@@gilgamesh7652
Here's my very unconventional interpretation of the whole thing:
1. I will define first that God is the ultimate end goal of existence, as a good starting point for both atheists and theists.
2. Therefore God is at least existence that has perfected itself, "I am that I am". He's the ultimate absolute order of this universe, and all beings need him to be created and to exist. Call Him the deterministic unifying theory of everything, whatever. He is at least all of the above.
3. Hell is whatever that is not Heaven.
4. Heaven is where you reunite with this ultimate order. Because when God is the ultimate order, there is no more chaos. No more chaos, no more suffering, no more death. Eternal blissful existence. Call this the end all be all of utopias. True utopia.
5. Even though God is the ultimate end goal of existence, there is an another programmed desire inside all biological creatures, freedom. Free will is just freedom in the mental sense, because we humans want to break free from anything that limits us, both physically and mentally.
6. You can see that, free + order is like water + oil, so such a cruel "joke" that God has played on us, that we humans desire such polar opposites.
7. Now the interesting thing here is that I think you and I can both agree that humans ultimately desire love. Love is actually a FREE choice to submit to an ORDER for the betterment of the subject of love. Imagine a marriage, a happy one, where both people have to willingly submit to each other for the betterment of the other partner.
8. So the only true way to be in this proposed utopia, without lobotomizing your freedom away, is to "Love God". And with 1 and 7, we can maybe both agree that God is Love. So you have to "Love Love" essentially, which sounds weird.
9. Sad thing here is, you can't really fully love an abstract definition or value. Maybe some people can, but definitely not everyone. So we need a perfect human representation of this ultimate God to love. By loving this human, you love God at the same time, even better. And I don't think you can find anyone who fulfills this role better than Jesus.
10. Since Jesus is abstractable to an idealistic definition in this sense, Jesus essentially has existed alongside YHWH for eternity. He is God's perfect image onto humanity. If there's another advanced alien society out there in the universe, they may have discovered their own Jesus also, call him Son of Vulcan or whatever.
I love you Cliffe, and I respect u, but u r wrong too lol😂
CHOICE Lili
With innocence you know you’re blest, you would do nobody harm
Your Lord has washed away your sins, you’re bright and squeaky clean
Dispatched into the closet of your mind, locked, chained, forgotten, gone
But every now and then they escape to haunt you in your dreams
This Lord you love has let you down, he took you in his arms
Promised all your sins were gone but they’re still there it seems. -
Your Lord might have forgotten them, they surface just to tempt
Satisfaction from revenge, those evil hateful thoughts
The live for lust and carnal pleasures lost, those were the times, the life
They’re waiting still, you can return, to that which you have dreamt
But take it slow, drift with the flow and take what life has brought
Your Christian friends will leave your side, no loss for their contempt. -
Let them bow, scrape and cry, it’s the stuff of mirth and fun
They’ll do whatever it takes, to gain eternal life in the sky
They’ll sacrifice their life on Earth for a promise that’s a lie
Gather others to their dream with fear, fire and pain for everyone
But it’s a lie we’ll take our chance with life for what it’s worth
A life in Heaven cold and drab, with eternal boredom cursed. -
And what will Jesus do once he’s gathered up his flock
Burden them with eternal prayer, sing hymns and constant praise?
An eternity of being good would be Hell you can’t unlock
Better take the jar and drink, and love your life away
For once in Heaven it’s all forbidden, you can’t turn back the clock
One life of pleasure on this Earth than Heaven dull and gray.
Blessed be.
Bro forgot to add part where after you cut your desire you reach nirvana, stuff that even better than buddhist's analogue of heaven
This guy is a ???????
Clearly you don't understand the first thing about Buddhism. Not only is there ethics but ontology too.
Lol... Dude read a pamphlet and thinks he understands Buddhism... Giving up your desires is a Koan...it's a standard western reading that says this and says Karma is about justice lol 😅
Buddha is known as “Christ like.”
Think about that.
Completely WRONG! budda was just a mortal. Nothing special!
@@phucly2662 Siddhartha is mortal. The Buddha is the luminous mind, with no beginning nor end.
This was a terrible characterization of what Buddha said. He didn't read any Buddha clearly.
If you're going to talk about Buddha at least have read the eightfold path and the four Noble truths. You're complaining about things that are not Buddhism gee what a surprise of Christian apologist being dishonest who would have ever guessed that happens every second of every day
He's not going super in depth in any of these and you're complaining that he didn't represent Buddhism completely? Buddhism isn't even supposed to be a religion, but a philosophy that Buddha discovered, which is why he comments on the thoughts of Buddha rather than Buddhism.
@@onionsans he hasn't even skimmed the surface of Buddhism. typical fundamentalist mentality
@@onionsans but he's just plain wrong he's not incomplete he's lying
@@MichaelVandeventer-c3q He's not though, historical evidence says Buddha never meant to start a religion, and cliff disagrees with Buddha on this
@@onionsans but cliffe doesn't even know Buddhist teachings. How can you say Buddha didn't mean to start a religion that's pretty weird he definitely meant to start a philosophy if you want to quibble about the difference between a philosophy and religion okay I guess you can but you should really learn about Buddhism before you say things about it or believe things. Learn before you think you know
You arent required to be a broken servant with budhism ...its a process of self improvement
Christianity is a process of becoming a broken loser to be saved from hellfire once youve expired ... You are just expected to have a bad life in a bad world
Then be rewarded once you are gone ....what a great business model for a church.
If god is good and is happy with the way he has created human nature and the world as all humans battling against evil ..then why did he drown the world to wipe the slate clean
Or make murderers out of the tribespeople of Moses in defiance of his own commandments ... just because an old man collected sticks on the Sabbath ?
That's not 'good'
The earth is that old 4.5 billion years give or take a few , the same science that you rely on for you modern day quality of life proves it with evidence
Not by faith.
And if you don't know where you've come from ...you won't know where you are going, no old testament - means - no new testament
Sure the bible is older than the printing press, no contest ...the word really didn't get to all humanity until the printing press was invented plus a few hundred years for distribution to occur.
Just about everything within the story of Christ and Christianity has come to us from other older religions in a process called religious syncretism
Whereby each successive religion has been built upon a framework of a previous religion. For example
In ancient Egypt the concept of an afterlife was pivotal to their beliefs
Your heart was weighed as a judgement before you could enter.
Their creation stories include a serpant in a bush and a Shephard's crook is a symbol of their god Amun ra
Also known as Amen ra of simply Amen... The tag line for your prayers.
Being the son of a god was common for ancient greek heroes and a Virgin birth can also be found in many ancient myths and religions ..even the story of the flood predates Judaism by a couple of thousand years appearing in the epic of Gilgamesh ...a Sumerian epic myth
Gilgamesh was also credited as being the son of a god by the way.
I could go on for pages but certainly
You won't notice I guess
Incorrect, Christianity does not say to become a broken loser, but to recognize the fact that people are, have always been, and will always be, evildoers, and to repent of our evil against God. The process of Christianity is very much about self-improvement, because once one recognizes that they are evil, only then can they focus on being good in the eyes of the eternal God, which is all that matters in the end. There is a similarity between Christianity's and Buddha's teachings, which is that craving leads to suffering, and there are differences, such as that Buddha taught that all craving leads to suffering, whereas Christianity teaches that craving godliness (to be like God) is the only form of good craving, since God is good.
@@onionsans
incorrect, even you admit it .,evil sinner
If I told you I wasn't evil ...you'd argue against it and insist I were
Christians want everyone around them to be evil ...they want the world to end
And they believe their reward comes with death, and that you must be 'washed in the blood' to somehow be magically protected from all the supernatural mumbo jumbo
@@onionsans
if god is good why did he created a system where everyone is evil and not reveal himself for around 7 million years of human existence ?
If he can drown the world in an act of attempted repair of his flawed design
Why did he have to wait until humans invented the printing press to get his divine word circulated amongst the masses ?
@@oftin_wong Wow you got so many things wrong
1. The bible says the earth is not even close to that old. Whether you agree with it or not, your question assumes God's existence in order to ask something about him, so this is a legitimate response.
2. God did not create the system where everyone is evil, He created man with the free will to choose to stay good or become evil, and man chose to become evil. This acts as a descending trait, since the descendants of the original man take on the personalities of their parents. The idea that God simply created man to be evil is false. Additionally, through all of the bible's timeline, God has revealed himself to his people. He has every right to not show himself to other nations, since they were the ones to turn from God in the first place.
3. The flood was not an attempt at repair, it was an act of destroying all the evil of the world. The fact that God decided to keep Noah and his family alive were due to Noah being actually righteous, apart from literally everyone else. Also, from the previous point, his design was not flawed, his creation, man, simply decided to be evil.
4. The printing press was invented in 1440. The bible was written completely and canonized (according to what the letters and gospels confirmed) FAR before the printing press was invented.
@@onionsans
Site keeps removing my comments
That don't contain any insults or nastiness ...they just don't want me to have any free will within their cotton wool utopia
I've added my responses to my original post
cliffe is ignorant of Buddha