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Just a idea: It would be fun to see a debate between two AI Christian or Muslim with one being more rationalist and the other being more mystic In another word a debate between a Christian with mystic interpretations (like the Eastern orthodox) and Christian with rationalist interpretations The same can be done with Islam
Ai was litterly biased AF and also the topics where fun but also that if you would've made all this three religion on the same topic because Jesus never talked about Child marriage when it happened at that time and as well Buddah even Indorse it
Notice how the Christian and Buddhist were able to be contextualize their exemplars' teachings in a timeless and insightful manner with ease, while the Muslim had to make excuses for Muhammad being a product of his time...
It matters on the question , if we cite buddhist law stating to beat wives or women are devils or OT saying commanding rape , i am sure you will have to make excuses for that
@@remeyes allegation and reality are much different. Allegation might be fictional, reality is what happened. Muhammad in reality married a mere 6 year old, and Buddha in reality left his family. They are no allegations but the truth... I still wonder how these people follow a religion made by a guy who married a child playing with a doll.
I noticed when the Muslim AI was challenged with the fact that Muhammads moral example should have transcended his time, it did not address the challenge
Islam was a doomsday cult at it's time. They genuinely believed Allah was coming as soon as possible, which is why they focused on their timeline. Since the industrial revolution and the creation of the internet, it's obvious that Islam is simply outdated and doesn't fit in todays standards whatsoever. Besides teachings stolen/altered from previous cultures, philosophies, and religions, it offers no new knowledge.
@@fillrctm1684 1. Your first statement shows that you do not know anything about Islam. The Day of Judgment is very far away and no one believed that it was near because the Prophet told us about events that preceded it and half of those events happened. 2. How could a man who could neither read nor write come up with a new type of speech in the Arabic language? At that time, poets were widespread and the Quran always challenged them to bring a surah like it if they had doubts, but they could not and accused it of magic (some tried to compose verses like the Quran but could not) Also, how did he know the stories of the predecessors and the prophets? And if we assume that he stole them, how did he amend their historical and logical errors? For example, why did he not say that God got tired after creating the heavens and the earth, but rather contradicted them with explicit verses?
@@Mmd-po3tx I’m going to ask you a very simple question and I want you to answer it clearly and without any more of this stalling. Is pedophilia evil? Yes or no? It’s a very, very simple question.
@gracious1826 Look at the numbers in real life please, don't base your opinion of a whole religion on a man made video that is worse than western woke propaganda, overall the specific language codes can be racist by development... You are disrespecting the biggest religion thus offending the biggest amount of people
Exactly if something is normal doesn't mean it is right And if it was normal was not right then Muhammad as a messenger of God he should teach that child marriage is wrong but he engaged in it too😂 How can he be messenger of God Does god justify child marriage 😂😅
@@sanjeevshukla3509the child marriage, with Aisha and him is not even true. There are many other Hadiths, which are authentic too and deny the age of aisha of 6-9 years old. In one hadith for example it says she was on battlefields, which a child couldn't go at that time. Or another says, that she was the same height as Mohammad, which also contradicts the theory of she being a child at that age.
@@sanjeevshukla3509 Book 8, Hadith 21 - it is reported that she leaned on his shoulder, which would not be possible for a child unless, for some reason, she was already over approximately 160 cm tall at the age of 9. Regarding her participation in battles - Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari and his biographies. There are further inconsistencies when looking at the age difference with her sisters and the accounts of her birthday, but that would be too much to go into here. I mean, the whole matter is similar to if I started criticizing the story of Rebecca in Christianity without considering other relevant points. Many internet agitators are doing the same thing right now with other Quranic verses, claiming they glorify violence, without understanding the context in which the verses were revealed
@@shoopinc Can’t forget the mindless mice that flee to the ideology because someone 1400 years ago claimed you can have as many wives as you want and you get infinite topless women in heaven. 👏
It's not even that. The "sword" Jesus talks about is literally a metaphor for truth & opposition. Full quote, Matthew 10:34-36: 34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.
Jesus first come was to slay sin in people. his next come will be to slay people in sin. Don't let to tomorrow, many people die everyday, repent today of your sins.
@@MichaelMayor-k6t Jesus is not here to slay anyone, heretic, the ancient evil is lurking and killing your daughters and sons thy fore you blame the saviour? He is naught but good of heart and will not kill anyone, but to be saved from the wretched you must take his hand lest you fall in oblivion. Jesus will kill what corrupts you, and you must shed the flesh of the weak when you expire for the willing mind to join heaven. How can "The sword" (which nephar pointed out is a metaphor for truth & opposition) be used against you the sinner, when you are not the ancient evil but simply tainted by it?
@@nephartuzim8879 yeah idk how anyonn e oculd interpret this as inciting violence... it's literally just a different version of plato's allegory of the cave, where the person who has seen the truth will become outcast.
@@ExponentMars if you continue to read that same chapter, a few verses later, Jesus literally says that when people are persecuting you, your response is to flee to the next town. So definitely not a call to violence.
But they can threaten the creator of the AI, and if you say they wouldn't do it because it sounds illogical, don't forget the last thing they like to use is logic (and kindness).
Do Muslims control the banks, Hollywood, or foreign policy? I was born in America and believe in Christ, so I have no reason to be sympathetic to Muslims. Whenever Christians shout, "Look at what Muslims are doing to Charlie Hebdo and Salmon Rushdie!" it just screams impotence. Christ is being disrespected everyday and we do nothing. If you believe Christ is TRULY GOD, why would you allow blasphemers to do this? America's wars has displaced Muslims, so they migrate to Europe. Picking on Muslims doesn't do anything to change this. Big government, big business, and big technology - all of it, the entire system - needs to be brought to heel. That's only way to stop mass immigration and return to a traditional society, which is what the West needs.
what even funny is that the christian and buddhist AI also use "at that time context" language but have completely different response because the initial question is just too problematic
@romecat yes there is, because qureshi is not the victim of massacre, the muslim is, qureshi always trying to eliminate them and along side with jews asking any power to join them to eliminate muslims, muhammad never start a war or massacred any arab tribes after muslim win the battle, you can read history if you want, don't depend on me to tell you
Especially when Jesus and Buddha teachings are extremely similar in philosophy with the only difference being the reason as to why. To Jesus it's to gain eternal life and gain the right to be with the father as for Buddha it's to escape the never ending cycle of life and death and the suffering of the human condition
If you had listened carefully, it actually answered pretty well. We take rulings from the Quran and Sunnah, and the ruling regarding marriage according to Islamic teachings is that, a person must reach the age of puberty with the primary signs of puberty, and at in the old times, the age of maturity was the same as the age of puberty, so when a person reached puberty, they were considered adults, meaning fit for the consummation of marriage (which was the case for Aisha, and the rest of the world, including Christian and Jewish law). And due to the social and environmental changes around us, a person who reached puberty is not mentally mature, and Islam emphasizes on the second condition, i.e., mental maturity to make a decision for themselves. So, the age of marriage is higher in Islam nowadays, but is still defined by simply a number rather their physical and mental maturity, just like before. In a nutshell, there are two assumptions that people make to accuse the prophet, the present biological and mental conditions were the same at all times and everywhere, and secondly, misrepresenting the argument we are making, through saying that, "it was socially acceptable at that time, therefore it was morally right", but that is far from the case.
@@anees_burkiMohammed’s actions were medieval and contrary to today’s times. His actions are reprehensible and do not stand the test of time. The words of Jesus do however and its plane for everyone to see. Most people are too scared to challenge Muslims because they scream and yell and use the islamaphobe card because they’re unable to defend their viewpoints properly.
@@anees_burki so is it ok that a 53 year old man deflowers a 9 year old girl ? 9 years is nowhere near a mature woman xD the hadiths say she played with dolls and they had to feed her more so she would become a bit bigger xD bruh
The argument that Muhammad’s marriage was culturally appropriate at the time would logically make other teachings of their time and not applicable to modern day.
Abraham married his half-sister Sarah. By the time Leviticus was written, this type of marriage was prohibited. The Fourth Lateran Council held by the Catholic Church decreed that Jews had to wear distinctive clothing. The Gospel of John is quite counter-Semitic. I'm not a fan of mass immigration myself, but I also understand two things: 1) The powers that be are pushing anti-Muslim sentiment to divide the people and make them cheer on the actions of a certain country in the Middle East. 2) If everyone in the West practiced a traditional religion in a traditional way, feminism and LGBT would not be as widespread. It's actually strange to see conservative Christians saying, "We're more tolerant than Islam!" Is that a good thing? I grew up in a Pentecostal household and I'm sympathetic to Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
For all whose who are seeking truth, this video is unfear, and That is why? In the bible: Solomon have had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kgs 11:3). Lot had sex with his daughters (Genesis 19) , Apart from children of Israel humans are dogs (Matthew 15:21-28, ) Samson had a sex with a prostitute (Judges 16:1-27) The Lord will use a razor to shave your head and private parts (Isaiah 7:20) The lord consuming fire and Smoke rose from his nostrils and riding female angel ''cherubim'' (2 Samuel 22:2)
@@Z-G271I invite you to challenge CP, Sam Shamoun, Godlogic, David Wood, Jay Dyer. I bet you will not be able to give a straight answer. Answer this please, why does the Quran until this day says that the bible is true? Surah 5:44a; 2:87 Surah 3:3, Surah 10:94-95; 16:43 If you say that the Bible is corrupted, wouldn’t that mean that the Quran is wrong for admitting that the Gospel is the word of God?
it was justified, also go ahead and give your neck a break from holding up that head of yours-clearly, you’re not using it for any deep thinking and just enjoy making snap judgments. Clearly, you're an expert judge, right? Lol. And please, stop using modern American 'moral' standards to critique everyone who’s ever lived. It just highlights how limited your perspective is.
Yeah I wonder if you’d say the same thing when the Bible justifies the slaughter of the Midianites under the pretence that they will be rewarded in heaven. Relying on AI for information on ANYTHING is dumb because of how inaccurate it can be eg. ChatGPT getting many things wrong.
@deskcharity2869 nice try, but as you can see, the AIs have excelled in defending Christianity over Islam. In the other videos, Christianity has even outperformed atheism.
@@remylebeau7258who are you to be able to call someone else false? Do you know their full circumstances and context? Or are you perhaps a good judge of character to just be able to tell on the spot?
Illegitimacy* of adopted children. He literally destroyed the concept of adoption itself just to sleep with Zainab, his own adopted son's wife, and his first cousin, he seduced his own son's wife and cucked him, the fact that muslims can't see through his motivations is concerning
Yeah, he could have adopted her as a 'ward', or taken her on like an apprentice or protégé. It's clear he only married this *little girl* to get conjugal rights and get his dick wet!
Comparison itself was fundamentally wrong in the first place. I will never understand the point of comparing Jesus to Mohammed. Their roles in the respective religions aren't the same. Jesus is the God of Christianity while Mohammed is a prophet of Islam. If you want to compare gods of religions, God of Islam is Allah, not Mohammed. If you want to compare prophets of religions, then you can pick a prophet in Christianity like Moses. If you compare gods than Jesus is much more brutal. A simple comparison between the Quran and OT (Jesus was also the God of OT and he was the one who ordered those "nasty" things in there) makes this clear. If you compare the prophets and Moses (or other OT prophets) is much more brutal even if you take all hadiths as true*, a simple comparison between hadiths and the OT is enough. *Note: Hadiths aren't reliable historically.
@@tjpg25 Yes and Islam wins in both, is what I am saying. Jesus has his orders in OT, which was much worse than even the worst hadiths. Moses, a ruler prophet in OT, has much worse actions under his belt. Accepting Moses as a prophet, and claiming the god who ordered his actions as a 'moral paragon' and a 'loving god', while criticizing Mohammed who looks angelic compared to them even if you take hadiths has no logic.
@@flykiller I don't see your point with Moses? We are not to follow Moses. Bringing him up means literally nothing. And even if we were to follow Moses, I don't see how you can say he's worse than Muhammad. Regardless, it's not the point of my first reply or this one. When it comes to Jesus in the old testament, I'd like you to provide examples. I'd also encourage you to not apply a liberal perspective to Christianity, yet not to Islam. Apply the standard you yourself use.
@@tjpg25 I know you guys don't follow him but you still accept him as a prophet of God and overall have no problems with his actions. You can't accept Moses as a prophet while criticizing Mohammed's prophethood in basis of morality. My logic of Moses point was basically this: Moses did much worse stuff than Mohammed of hadiths > They were done under orders of God of OT > Jesus was the God of OT So, Jesus, the moral example for Christians, ordered worse things than Mohammed of hadiths. Also how is he not worse? Do you know what he did to Midianites? I can't post the verses here without my comment deleted by TH-cam. It makes even the worst hadiths look peaceful and those are fabrications... I have no liberal view on this. I also have no problems with total destructions as long as they are done directly by God and innocents put in Heaven. But this is not what happens in OT. There are total destructions by human hands under orders of God and it includes babies (Canaan for example). There are also Midianites that Moses deleted all males and women, then took only virgin girls (yes, including children) for you-know-what. This was done under orders of God. Even the worst thing in hadiths, Banu Qurayza event, looks peaceful compared to this.
@@iranimilitantzifu7015or maybe its the fact that Christianity is not inherently imperialistic like Islam. Thus, leaving matters of governance to the people
@@gaebi Wtf??? Explain me why the Ottoman Empire treated Israel well regardless of Muslim, Christian, and Jewish people??? Christianity destroyed a lot of Amerindian cultures in the American supercontinent, and killed so many people
Thats a funny statement. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Ottoman_genocides@iranimilitantzifu7015 wanna rethink this statement? I think any Armenian Kurdish would disagree
"while islam did not abolish slavery immediately..." FALSE. islam NEVER abolished or condemned slavery. Arabic nations only 'officially' banned the practice after HEAVY pressure from Europe, and are the majority of countries that have restarted the practice in modern times.
As an iraqi I remember the first thing ISIS did after invading the country is they immediately kidnapped all non muslim women and sold them as sex slaves And before any muslim tries to say the classic “isis doesn’t represent islam” please remember that muhammed and his companions did the exact same thing as isis did after every successful raid, they both took all the loot and enslaved the women and children
Also all the sources we have on that are Muslim sources. And if you disagree with Mohammed on anything you have left Islam. And apostasy is connected with death punishment.
Even though i don't believe in the saying that the prophet married aisha when she was 9, i can see why ppl falsified this hadith and made it up like this, as early as 1800s the age of marriage was 12 years old for women , so it's not too far to say that 1400 years ago it was 9 years old.
@@galifrey6214 if a Muslim would make up something about the prophet, it would have been something positive not something negative don’t you think? Also, it’s in multiple books If a girl got married at 12 in the past it was to a 16 yo boy not to a decrepit elderly man and not at 9
Still didn't because Ashia was 9. The average age if marriage in the area at that time was 14. Islam literally has rules for marrying girls that haven't started their periods. It wasn't based on maturity. It was based Muhammad being a pedophile and Allah rushing to accommodate him.
Christian AI: Jesus was a wonderful person who taught objectives that truly changed the world! Buddhist AI: Buddha seeked out enlightenment through learning from his mistakes. Islam AI: Yeeaaahhhh but it WAS a few years ago too....
No Muslim said this, but the text of Islam states that the Prophet is a role model and we must follow him. Before you try to ask me about Aisha’s marriage, I want to ask you a question: Do you know what is best for Aisha more than her, her father, and her mother?
@@Mmd-po3tx if a mother and father murder their child while the child sits there and accepts it out of love for their parents you would not be saying the same thing.
@@saro539 Her father Abu Bakr was a wise person, so it was impossible for him to marry his daughter if she was not ready. Also, Aisha was ready for marriage and never complained. Rather, she loved the Prophet and spread hadiths about her love for him. We cannot take your opinion and leave Aisha’s opinion.
@@saro539 Her father Abu Bakr was a wise person, so it was impossible for him to marry his daughter if she was not ready. Also, Aisha was ready for marriage and never complained. Rather, she loved the Prophet and spread hadiths about her love for him. We cannot take your opinion and leave Aisha’s opinion.
Christian copium is so insane , like christianity is already dead with millions leaving every year and you here are coping ? Look at any research on the matter of religious conversions , example take PEW , christianity is losing 66 million and islam is gaining 300k in conversions by 2050
I knew these religion people r delusional as from childhood they mugg up these things u see whenever u ask them question they always has a justification as their people have been teaching them since childhood so its difficult to change they brainwash innocent children for their benefits
Well, Ai is inherently biased based on whatever training data it was provided. As it stands, no foundational model is neutrally aligned or unbiased. Even if you account for ablation, orthogonal, or other methods of realignment - the base values are still presently active. In any event, many people chastise Islam because they have been told to. If people look at Christianity and Judaism, both religious texts align with Islam on certain topics. Take, for instance, the following: Niddah 5:6 Ketubot 11b Sanhedrin 54b these texts are from Mishnah, or Jewish Law curated by Judah the Prince. Catholics pray to Mary, who is by definition of Jewish culture at the time, an 11-year-old. We know this because a Jewish girl aged 12 1/365 would have had her vows of marriage active, and we know she wasn't married to Joseph but rather betrothed. Jewish tradition uses the term Kiddushin, which you can learn more about if you read Ishut; which deals specifically with Women. Again, people chastise Islam because they have been conditioned to do so. It's important to research all things and not take someone else’s word for it; especially when dealing with the past. While I understand that it's easy to throw a towel up and call one group evil - it's best to recognize that evil is subjective, morals and laws are subjective, and while the present has made “progress” the people of the past would call it “perversion”.
@@Matrix_Arrayall it takes is common sense to see how bullshit Islam is... Christianity and Buddhism obviously more loving and peaceful... a 7 year old could see this... a 7 year old who should be protected from pedophiles btw
@Matrix_Array a 6 year old is still half the age of an 11 year old, and the Bible never refers to Jesus himself marrying or having relations with anyone, let alone a 9 year old.
@@Mjr8976hell? You mean a particular brainwashing religious belief system? Ofc no one would be saying that after getting stuck in that because you aren't even allowed to say that while you are in it.
they do, the age at which people are eligible for marriage in Islam is deduced based on the biological and mental maturity of a person, and other external factors, such as having to attend school, which did not exist at the time... literally, look at Islamic laws, you'll get why Islam is adaptive
@@sumelama396even after its adaptability, it's still 300 years behind. Except for the select few progressive islamic nations. Majority of the islamic nations still follow their primitive values which do not align with today's societal norms. They suck at religious tolerance. The minorities in almost every islamic nations are under constant threat.
I hear so much about how Islam is the fastest growing religious group, but there also seems to be a growing awakening on just how quickly their teachings fall apart under scrutiny if not maintained by religious intimidation and violence.
It really doesn't. The argument of Aisha was never brought up before the 20th and 21st century because it's an irrelevant argument that only falls against the morals of the West. Any being with knowledge knows it's not a valid argument. And I doubt you know anything about Islam itself or much about Christianity to even respond to me properly. Perhaps you should also look into your own prophets who married, by the West's definition, "children." 🤷♂ Just a thought because if your argument holds true and your moral compass stays stable, you'll find yourself also disgusted by the Bible by those standards.
@@ChristSavesEveryone David Wood and AP are all frauds, lol. They fall down whenever they engage in an argument. I've seen Eastern Orthodox priests online who give better refutations and better teachings 😂
@@arkifex7514 Proverbs 16:18 King James Version 18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. Your arrogance can’t save your vile prophet. The reason why the argument of morality and muhammeds morals is so detrimental to islam, is because muslims are forced to think muhammed is the greatest example for all of mankind. Even if you try to justify muhammed mounting prepubescent girls within the context of 7th century arabia, it doesn’t help you. Because then you must admit that muhammed sinned, which some muslims have a problem with already, and that he isn’t the greatest example for humans. Once you condemn raping prepubescent girls, you condemn muhammed, and that is where Jesus comes in. Christ is the only one who is sinless. He is perfect, he is free from all sin. This is why once again, muhammed is in hell under the feet of the Lord Jesus. Since Jesus taught us the perfect life to live, wheras muhammed and allah failed to see the horrendous implications the atrocity of child marriage has on the kids. It’s time tk come to Jesus, muhammedans God and Judge.
as someone who knows arabic, i can assure you, the word "daraba" absolutely does not refer to a "light, symbolic tap". it directly translates to striking/hitting, without implying any "lightness" at all.
I love how the AI just didn't even address. The fact that Muhammad is supposed to be the perfect moral example for all men for all time, And that regardless of the time periods still shouldn't have been engaging In marriage with a child. It's almost like it's indefensible or something.
@@Why_Am_I-Here01 I think you know exactly what I mean, Do you think it's OK to do this with a 9-year-old? When you're supposed to be the perfect moral example for all people of all time.
Oh I guess you really didn't understand my question.did you ? I asked what a child is.@gnos1s171 And now I have another question, have you ever researched why Islam's prophet married Ayesha? Do you know about libido age of a man and woman in that time? Do you know the people mature way differently in different types of places and conditions?
Another question for you @@gnos1s171 Do you know, morality, ideology and maturity, are completely different from one individual to another depending on different conditions and circumstances? One's morality is imposed on the other because the person who is imposing his morality is more powerful than the other. Similarly the western morality, ideology, freedoms 🦅 are imposed on other countries. Like if someone betrays me or cheats me, I will give them a miserable life. Or even kill them later, but the law will not let me do it. So law's morality is imposed upon me even though I don't like it. So what do you think is moral justification? Or is there any moral justification in this world? You have got a conscience and an intellect, not to believe anything or anyone blindly , without researching. Don't believe in everything you hear or see, if a person thinks more emotionally than logically and rationally, he will be in big trouble. These situations are used to do these things to people like manipulating, gaslighting, blackmailing and many more.
@@Why_Am_I-Here01 well, depending on the place the age someone is considered an adult is usually someone 16-18 (hence, why the age of consent in some places in America is as low as 16) so let's go with the minimum here and say 16 is an adult, So sixteen is my answer on The minimum age of what's considered an adult, And i'm pretty sure a nine year olds Labido, even at that time isn't developed enough, And regardless, if that's the case, then that means what Muhammad did and the morality of his actions is dependent on time period and means he isn't the moral example and ethical example for all people to follow for all times which is what Muslims claim, If he was then conditions of people in that time period don't matter. 🙃 It really is as simple as that. Don't try to act like you can just have it both ways.
Bro you can clearly see this shit is rigged . Go ask ChatGPT and will be more with the Muslim argument and saying they had good explanation. This video is manipulated to make Muslim look bad . The ai Muslim had extremely good argument and the challenger ai did not go to the really bad things in the Bible . This shit is rigged
enlightened leader who helped society in an extremely problematic time god in a human body sent to save mankind from their sins "trust me bro, god told me its ok for me to have 69 wives"
Islam has 109 verses that call for violence against non believers. Saying it's a book of peace is crazy. Also, I see comments saying the Old Testament is barbaric and promotes violence. This is true, but definitely to a lesser degree than islam's calls for violence. The Christian view is that God was meeting the Jews down at their current moral level and once they were ready for the next step, God was made flesh and enlightened everyone with his moral teachings. Basically, the morality within the old testament isn't what Christians strive for. We strive to be more like Jesus. Compassionate but unyielding in our pursuit of objective truth and justice. However, there is a group of people that only studies the old testament's morality ...that group rhymes with shmooz
When your neighbors sacrifice humans, children, and will conquer and enslave you... what else is there? IMHO if God is real half the stuff is like humans trying to understand what a quantum super-computer is trying to teach them.
@@AdeTri-pu7qi Did our prophet did? Did moral example of our faith did that? But in your religion, your prophet did that at the age of 52 to 6 year old kid..... Do you think your religious school has no news of sexual assaults of kid by your religious Clarice?? In fact y'all explode in our churches while saying Allah Akbar.
@@LevitheLibrarian the entire Christan defense was "oh yeah, he wasn't being serious" like no shit these bots are gonna be on Christian side the arguments were chosen by the bias channel owner
@@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful No. Hyperbole is need for teaching. Its good to describe. Jesus said that accepting the truth will lead to division because there are people who defend lies (thats the sword). iT DOES NOT MEAN HIS NOT SERIOUS AT ALL HE TRY TO DESCRIBE WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
@@CasualStreamerSerpent sure hyperbole is fine and all but this is why the argument of the AI is flawed as many people come and misinterpret scriptures such as the time Romans burned Jews while reciting John 15:6. And Matthew 15:26-27 defense was bad too.
buddha: chill dude, cared for everyone equally, so not the best father jesus: a lil bit intense, you could misunderstand him out of context Mohammed: C**** r***, slavery, massacre, abuse. but it was alr cuz it was common at the time fsfs
Christ’s intensity shows His compassion, love, and seriousness in situations; and overall shows His care for all people, and shows His desire for justice.
@@iggy9226 How could anyone be omni benevolent and NOT intense? Obviously going about thinks in the best possible way might not always be the simplest way, which is why it might be confusing.
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, Mary, the mother of Jesus, was 12 when she married Yousef, who was 99 years old. Before 1929, the Church of England allowed marriage at the age of 12. Before 1983, Catholic canon law allowed marriage at the age of 12. Many people don't realize that in the United States, in the state of Delaware in 1880 the minimum age for marriage was 7 and in California it was 10," he said. "Even today, the age of marriage in some states (US) is 12 in Massachusetts, 13 in New Hampshire and 14 in New York (changed to 17 in 2012)
@@gadgetfreak3885But Joseph didn't sleep with Mary, and by age 12, you could already be pubescent, while Aisha was 9, aka, unable to bear children at all.
Answer 1: The Buddha's family was of royal lineage, with servants to attend to their needs, lacking no material comforts. From a Buddhist perspective, death is not the end. Therefore, the Buddha's quest for enlightenment was, in essence, a profound act of 'helping' his family in the truest sense. If the Buddha is considered a bad father, then soldiers who go to war to protect their country should also be considered bad people. which is not Answer 2: Allowing women to be ordained into a predominantly male monastic order, where celibacy is required, presents significant challenges. This is because close mentorship and guidance are necessary. In truth, the Buddha's teachings do not necessitate ordination for the study and attainment of enlightenment. Laypeople are equally capable of achieving spiritual awakening. Answer 3: The Buddha rejected the caste system and once said, 'You all were born from a woman's womb. How can one be higher or lower than another?
Not to mention Buddha welcomed individuals from all walks of life, including those from marginalized low-caste backgrounds like Suneetha and Sopaka, into his teachings and community.
@@miguelatkinson if you read more into Ephesians 6:5-9 Paul says "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him." If I knew that and still treated a slave I owned horribly how am I gonna say “ I love Jesus” at that point I’m honoring Jesus with my lips but my heart will be far from him and when judgement comes Jesus will say “depart from me I never knew you”
@@rigby3620 yes sir all the lashings to where his skin looked like ripped paper , spitting, name calling, mockery, being beat by everyone around him and having to be hung on a cross dying a excruciating death in front of his mom. All of that Jesus Christ endured so we can have peace to God through him Jesus. Fun fact the word excruciating came from the word crucify. Whenever Jesus wanted to 72,000 angels could have wiped everyone out and the whole world. But Jesus allowed himself to go through all that for us. Like in John 15:13, where Jesus teaches His disciples about the depth and magnitude of true love. He says "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends." so in the greatest act of love Jesus died for our sins. All we have to do is accept the free gift of salvation and by salvation to eternal life through Jesus and accept Jesus Christ into our lives.
Nah. It just forces a Western moral stand point. For example it says that gender equality is a fundamental moral truth. That is the biggest joke I heard. If Islam fails that, it means it is in line with reality
@@johnlove2954 So you don’t think that both genders are allowed to have equal rights? Do you perhaps live alone and haven’t spoken with or touched a woman since you were a child?
I mean, that is a relevant point to make. Especially when dealing with morality, setting the standard by a particular frameworks sources will lead to some biases.
As a Hindu, I must say, I would be very happy and open to listen to the teachings of Jesus and possibly learn from him and his life due to his emphasis on love, compassion and accepting the plurality of human existence even though I might not have faith in the theology of Christianity. I can't say the same for Muhammad unfortunately, as I would never even wanna see him other than using a time machine to go back and do you know what. Muhammad just did in Arabia what Genghis Khan did in Mongolia, the only difference being Genghis was a better conqueror and didn't persecute on the basis of religion.
If your heart is open to Jesus as you say, probably not only his moral teachings, but his Grace, will eventually enter your soul, which I pray for. The man was exemplar, but the God is truth and virtue itself. Have a good day sir!
@@creammycup2853Anything lol? First of all she wasn't his daughter, He created her. According to Islam, Allah created Jesus and Muhammad so are they his sons or creation? And he married his creation, grape is nowhere to be found here but only with what Muhammad did to Aisha at 9 years lol.
@@hindugramsci Muhammad (PHUB) married Ayesha(RS) . Ayesha (RA) wasn't his wife but if Muhammad does it then according to you guys it's barbaric and wrong? But if brahma does it then it's alright? And iam sorry to say this. According to some sources. Yes saraswati was the daughter of Brahma not only his creation.
@@creammycup2853Because Aisha was a nine year old and Muhammad was a 50 year old man at the time of consummation. Whereas, God Brahma is a God who created a divine being and married his creation. There is no comparison between the two acts. What Muhammad did is possible for any pedophile today but what Brahma dev did can only be done by God.
What I like about buddha is he said not to just trust trust him blindly. Use his teachings, along with your personal experience, to become more mindful of the world and seek your own path to enlightenment.
History of HOW the FOUNDER of a religion chose to spread their religion also goes a long way to show u something: Jesus - non violence (Peter put down your sword and give back that man his ear) Buddha - non violence (Don’t kill anything including insects) Muhammad - Conquering these infidels and making them convert to Islam is saving them
@ Do you know why the crusades happened? I recommend you watch the video [The crusades in 5mins], easily found in TH-cam, won’t let me paste the link here. The best quotes from that video relevant to your comment; 1. “the crusades were called AFTER 2/3 of Christian lands were invaded and captured by Muslim armies” 2. “the crusades were not called to convert Muslims, they were called to recapture lost Christian lands and stop the Muslims from thinking about invading more territory” Also Jesus Christ didn’t call the crusades. Pope Urban did. But Muhammad called for the Muslim invasion. My original comment had FOUNDER in capitals for a reason. Moreover, the crusades were doomed to fail because it directly go against Jesus’s teachings (remember the part where Jesus stopped Peter from hurting the soldier coming to capture him and healed the 👂 that Peter chopped off with his sword?). Can you say the same for Muhammad? Are the Muslim invasions going against his teachings? I invite you to read the Bible Mustafa. I’ve already started to read the Quran.
@@storybooks214 Let me enlighten you on why crusades happened brother. 1- To capture the holy lands because who ever captured the holy lands would gain fame worldwide. 2- Catholic Church needed wealth The reasons of crusades has nothing to do with stopping the islam from spreading further. It was for wealth and fame among Christian countries. At that time, a noble who manage the capture holy lands would gain the favor of the catholic church which is the highest authority in Europe. You can look up to the 4th Crusade for why it happened. Whatever happened in the entire history of the Earth has nothing to do with religion. Religion is just a tool for controlling masses.
For all whose who are seeking truth, this video is unfear, and That is why? In the bible: Solomon have had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kgs 11:3). Lot had sex with his daughters (Genesis 19) , Apart from children of Israel humans are dogs (Matthew 15:21-28, ) Samson had a sex with a prostitute (Judges 16:1-27) The Lord will use a razor to shave your head and private parts (Isaiah 7:20) The lord consuming fire and Smoke rose from his nostrils and riding female angel ''cherubim'' (2 Samuel 22:2)
Muslims: Quran is truth and perfect. Also Muslims: Nooo that passage was only for a certain time and you can't read/understand the Quran by yourself. So what is it?
No matter the time period, 9 year olds always looked like children. The fact that he wanted to have sex with a 9 year old, that could've been one of the children he has seen on streets as a literal newborn is disgusting 🤢. I wonder if his thought process of seeing newborns is like, "Oo, I can't wait for you to become 7"
FACT! And if his god was real he would understand the everlasting impacts that child marrige brings to young girls both phisically and psychologically, but he blessed this union? Wtf?
Islam is a false religion either way, because according to it, Allah just so happened to not preserve texts for reference to believers, and Mohammed just so happened to have the real texts given to him again despite the Bible quite clearly being supposed to be the final word of God. Islam is what is known as a "trust me bro" religion. Unlike Christianity or others, to which there is historical evidence for the supernatural things that happened, Islam has no such evidence. It relies on blind faith.
There is literally a verse that proofs your claim, where Mohammed saw a baby girl and got so excited that He said, He is going to marry her, when shes older. If someone knows this Sura pls provide its Numbers so people can check that claim for themselves.
just don't ask a Christian king how old his wife is or what continent he just finished geocoding. Islam did not kill 90% of native Americans and enslave the remaining 10%. don't pretend your faith has a better track record.
Buddhism is about love. Christianity is about love. Islam is about conquering the world and forcing them to submit. Giving up your identity and serving Allah fervently. Caring more about God than human life. It's no surprise who the winners are.
@@GhayelRubio What are you laughing about? And no, Islam doesn't preach love. It preaches that you must be a slave to God. And being a slave to God is more important than anything else. There's a video that I could share with you that explains the problem with Islam. Wanna see?
You are mistaken and have been unfortunately fed with the new world system propaganda along with others "that whoever takes a life-unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land-it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity." [Surah Al-Ma'idah verse 32] 'Heaven lies beneath the feet of your mother' is an Islamic saying by the prophet Muhammad, this hadith is prominent in Muslim culture - emphasising that a child must respect their mother to gain passage into heaven. "Don't use the sharpness of your Tongue on the Mother who taught you to Speak." is an Islamic saying by the prophet Muhammad as the quote above "O People it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well never to be unchaste." --Final Sermon of Prophet Muhammad
The Prophet (PBUH) said, “Allah Almighty said: My love is a right upon those who love each other for my sake. My love is a right upon those who visit each other for my sake. My love is a right upon those who sit together for my sake. My love is a right upon those who maintain relations for my sake” (Musnad Aḥmad). "Treat others the way you love to be treated. None of you has faith until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself." --Final Sermon of The Prophet Muhammad "Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that he will indeed reckon your deeds."
@keksi6844 False religion is so easy to expose. From the Torah nearly 3500 years ago .... 💯 What is the personal NAME that Almighty God gave his faithful prophets Isaiah, Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Moses, Noah, Joseph, Elijah, King David, Yeho-shua, and Yehōnātān the Baptist? Other theophoric names Adonijah, Yirmeyahu (Jeremiah), (Isaiah)Yəšaʿyāhū, and King Yəhōšafat. Over 1200 years of Islam. (Psalm 83:18) (Psalm 135:13) 💯 [Your name, Yahweh, endures forever; your renown, Yahweh, throughout all generations.] (English- Jehovah) Arab jealousy is the foundational to Islam ☪️ envious of Judaism ✡️ and Christianity. The only miracle of the Quran (and Islam) is that many people still believe that it is a miracle. Sadly 😥 Without LIES Islam ☪️ DIES. 💯 Flee 🏃♀️ from the utterly ridiculous lies of Pagan Islam ☪️ and the moon Deity 🌙. Sha'lom Aleichem in Christ Hallelujah-Praise Almighty Jah, you people.
This AIs simply reflect what is the majority of writings on these subjects. In a way it shows that Christianity is the religion that has paved the way for technology - if islam had «owned» 90% of the content fed into the AI, the judging would probably gone in another direction. That said, the judgement is correct😀 But I wonder what would had happened if Jesus would be challenged on marriage?? Or hell?? I bet Buddha would be better off in this contest (although Christ is of course still correct)
@@eagle5818 trying it best? When we have many youtuber that have better arguments? Lmao ai took it was okey in that time and didn't add anything other than that when we know people of that time mature way quicker example would be she herself being leader of army not long after the marriage or her being as tall as the prophet and more ai didn't even try to use those
@@km1._.741 theres no actual evidence that 9year olds who played with dolls at that time, were more mature than what they are now. Sorry but you’re coping. Leave islam already and embrace the Truth, Christ.
@@eagle5818 funny you say that you accept the age from hadith(as evidence)but don't accept other hadith lmao you can't choose one and abandon others that's not how that works also the dolls thing has been debunked so much its actually funny I can give you a link to a video but it ain't needed girls played with dolls at any age and there weren't any specific age for it ( even though playing with dolls was a bad thing it because of paganism but prophet said it ain't problems he gave Permission for it)
Crazy how the Muslim blatantly said violent and cruel things but he claims to be about peace. It’s obvious to see why that part of the world is the way it is
I'm a Christian myself but i have to tell you that almost all the unstable Muslim populated countries are like that today because France and Britain redraw A LOT of lines on maps without much consideration. Iran for example, would have had a secular government if not for Britain's greed over Iran's oils. there are new files releases by CIA themselves, saying how they worked with the MI6 to catapult the "islamic revolution"....'
That part of the world is like this because of YOUR people invading the country and plundering and destroying because we don’t conform to giving our resources to them. Think about how fucked up what you’re saying is, neo-colonialism at it’s peak. Don’t speak about what you don’t know about.
If you guys think they're peaceful, check out the nasty things Muslims did in India. They SAWED a sikh leader in half, boiled a sikh guru alive, they even carved out a sikh general's heart and after feeding him his own son's flesh. The Mughals.
@@drllsense9939 No way you're making that argument. One, lower life expectancy doesn't suddenly make children more mature and capable. Two, life expectancy was so low because it's an average. Infant mortality plummeted it into the ground. If you made it to five, you were probably going to make it to sixty or seventy. Three, even if my first two points were false and you proportionally aged her up relative to life expectancy, she'd still only be a young teenager when she married.
Ngl if I was the lady explaining slavery and Jesus I would have used all of Ephesians 6:5-9 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him."
@@ethanmoon3925 all the abolitionists were prominent Christians using Christian values to argue against slavery. Furthermore, "slavery" in the OT gives rules on how to treat your bondservant where before there was absolutely no rules. It's incredibly abundant how the bible elevates above society.
24:08 As a Christian, I have to correct the Christian AI on this point. "But asserts her worthiness of God's mercy." It might just be misunderstanding the phrasing, but Jesus, Himself, will assert that there is not one that is good, quoting from Deuteronomy. That is the infinite love and compassion of God at work. We *don't* deserve His love and mercy, but He gives it anyways. But just as He is infinite in love and mercy, He is infinite and perfect in righteousness and justice. He will judge us for our sins and we will pay for our sins. BUT in His mercy and love, He gave us His Son to die in our place, that whosoever places their faith in Jesus' death and resurrection and promise of salvation, we, too will be saved.
@@10054well, its also important to recognize that the Bible was not originally written in English. So the words we use to make sense of the Bible may not make much sense in comparison to words that were used in the original language. Especially because the bible uses a lot of hyperbole and metaphors that can be hard to understand for readers who don't have historical literacy
I think the AI said this based on the setting of the parable not on the real value. The children are also not worthy of mercy in reality but in the parable context, they seem to.
It could have also brought up that during the Roman occupation almost every one was a slave and that a directed revolted against Rome would put a end to Christianity.
@flying0possum Kinda true. After all, it is said that Budhha prohesied that a "better god" whose "feet were nailed" would come after him. Doesn't make Buddha right, but I believe God can use even those who don't align with Him to do His Will. After all, if you, as an all-powerful deity can never lose, then everything, even the opponent's moves, are an advantage. Amen?
And Muhammad was a terrorist. In terms of who these three are exactly: You have Christ the King, Buddha the Philosopher, and Muhammad the Terrorist. Buddhism is more of a Philosophy than anything else since its mythology borrows alot from Hinduism.
@@thechristsknight7758 tell me you only heard this prophecy in a christian channel without telling me you only heard this prophecy in a christian channel.
Of course I can agree with Buddhism, Islam requires context, but yes it was spread by the sword to some extent. And yes Christianity is the religion of God, just be sure to remember that God sanctioned the killing of infants/children, women, and animals. But let’s not forget the many years of conquests, murder,and enslavement that Christians seem to act like never happened “The religion of God” would not exist today without those atrocities.
1. Jesus was never married -Prime example to the Christians 2. Buddha has never married a child -Prime example to the Buddhists 3. muhhamad married a child -Prime example to the muslims. Imagine looking up to the teaching of a pdfile. Let that sink in. Yikes
by your comments I know you had zero knowledge about aishah because aishah was nurse aishah said the girl become woman when she become 9 yo and aishah have no problem to marry Muhammad and islam to marry you should have two think to marry become adult of emotion and adult mind and before come to me tell me aishah was playing dolls mean she was kid this make no sense because if I got married but is still playing video games mean I'm still kid this not true because I play video games for fun and aishah for fun and dolls in not for kids like video games like transformers or anime character
@@itachitcb5929 still doesn't change the fact that muhammad a so called "prophet" stoop so low and married a young girl, despite having the privilege of direct contact with the Creator to not know between right and wrong. If ur allah is the Creator, he would've known what's right or wrong and letting an adult marrying a child is obviously wrong, just because the child consented, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. And if ur allah is all knowing, wouldn't ur allah command ur prophet to NOT do such indecency? doesn't matter what time frame it was, God is an omnipotent being, He already knew that is not the right thing to do if He were to sent a prophet to set a prime example to mankind. By neglecting morality, ur allah a so called "god" probably isnt a god. ur allah sent muhammad as a prophet to become the prime example to lead a world religion? a prophet, someone who people are supposed to look up to, did such immortality? suspicious... only the devil could deceive mankind to that extend.. muhammad is more of a political leader rather than a prophet and muhammad was involved directly in war. Very far from Jesus and Buddha.
@@itachitcb5929 still doesn't change the fact that muhammad a so called "prophet" stoop so low and married a young girl, despite having the privilege of direct contact with the Creator to not know between right and wrong. If ur allah is the Creator, he would've known what's right or wrong and letting an adult marrying a child is obviously wrong, just because the child consented, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. And if ur allah is all knowing, wouldn't ur allah command ur prophet to NOT do such indecency? doesn't matter what time frame it was, God is an omnipotent being, He already knew that is not the right thing to do if He were to sent a prophet to set a prime example to mankind. By neglecting morality, ur allah a so called "god" probably isnt a god. ur allah sent muhammad as a prophet to become the prime example to lead a world religion? a prophet, someone who people are supposed to look up to, did such immortality? suspicious... only the devil could deceive mankind to that extend.. muhammad is more of a political leader rather a prophet. Very far from Jesus and Buddha.
To add, slavery during the time of Jesus is not the same as the way we see as how it transpired in America. Rather, slavery was a form of indentured servitude wherein a man can offer his services to pay off a debt while maintaining his dignity.
they literally did not attack any religion they said X part of your religion seems contradictory to your stance that X is a perfect moral exemplar. for all religions, they start with the assumption that X leader is good and they start questioning from there on why there are certain aspects that could contradict this
Jesus did not encourage slavery or explain how to buy slaves. Whatever verse you’re referring to doesn’t exist. Paul, an apostle of Christ who wrote Ephesians and many of the New Testament books, told slaves to obey their worldly masters as if they were obeying Christ. He reminds them that this world is temporary and ultimately God will judge everyone regardless of their position or status in this world. Ephesians 6:5-9 “Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward everyone for whatever good he does, whether he is slave or free. 9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.“ Christ allows free-will, as he is a completely perfect and loving God who doesn’t force us to make decisions he wants us to make. Whatever evil and injustice occurs in this world is a result of human corruption and actions, not God. Please do your research before commenting. People believe stuff like this and it causes them to regurgitate lies and form beliefs off of false information.
The Buddha said ... live and let live , all living beings are scared of death. Non-voilence Treat others as you would want them to treat you. This is the highest teaching in my view .
@@rashidulahmed2507 that's not burmese Buddhista that's burmese soldiers lol even people didn't know they are getting killed that's what garverment was hiding and doing it.
I respect you and all ex-Muslims out there but how do you guys respond to all the "miracles" of Islam? I'm not Muslim, I won't attack you for anything. just curious
@@rippydodoonokmu God is real, islam isn't. For god, he won't difference a Hindu and a muslims. Only good karma is what makes you reach liberation from rebriths. Allah isn't real god, he says that polytheists are worst of creatures, muhammad too demolished countless pagan temples of arab and so did Mughals. See the difference b/w saudi arabia and INDIA? Saudi Arabia being the birthplace of islam has restricted everyone from following anything other than islam publically and idols are illegal, whereas India, being the birthplace of oldest religion in the world welcomes everyone.
@@rippydodoonokmu appreciate your respect and open mindedness towards us mate You can just do a simple google search about the scientific miracles in the Quran. The Quran had mentioned the scientific phenomenon much earlier than they would be discovered. Muhammed peace and blessings be upon him also did the miracle of splitting the moon whose proof is the 12-16 mile wide line on the moon
lsIam: no no no - you have to understand … it was a DIFFERENT back then and allah changed his mind (abrogation) Christianity: I am the SAME yesterday, today and forever - God
@@munachisoononuju3130 When did God change his mind since the old testament? and was jesus not god back then? If that's what you believe, then he never was and never can be God, so you're a Muslim, congratulations.
What I got from this video is that Quran is a book that has many contradictions so you can basically cherry pick whatever interpretation you want and need at that point..
Most of the Quran is vague and repetitive. Some of the contradictions can be easily solved. The chronologically later verses may abrogate the chronologically earlier verses. There are only two problems with that. 1) The Quran is not sorted chronologically, which means we have to look at non-quranic material to find out what abrogates what. 2) Muhammed was much more aggressive and violent later in his life. Which means the peaceful statements are probably abrogated.
Exactly. It basically goes like this: use the guidelines that seem the most convenient atm, but nothing here that the prophet did or taught is wrong. They changed because society changed, in part, but things that are clearly wrong for us, are not so for them; If these problematic practices came back in trend they'd be back to doing them without considering them wrong.
As a Muslim. Let me answer. My English is not the best so please excuse some grammar mistakes I may make. -The Child Marriage of Aisha(R.A) This is such a pitiful lie and let me explain. Most of the haidths come from a single source by Hisham ibn Urwah. Muslims usually look for more than a single source for a Hadith to be authentic. Almost every report of Aisha's RA ages comes from when he was an old senile man even though so many scholars reject his narrations due to his old age. Tabari states that all four of Abu bakr's children were born during the pre Islamic period which is 610 CE or earlier. So even if she was born in 610 CE then she would have been 14 years old when she started living with the prophet. More so in the battles of Badr and Uhud. It is stated that no person was allowed in the battle if they were under 15 years old. Ibn-i-Umar states this. Aisha did participate in the battle which indicates she was not 9 but at the age or older than 15. Aisha has also been reported to say that she was a young girl (Jariyah) when Sura Qamar was revealed. Sura Qamar was revealed eight years before Hijrah in 614 CE. If Aisha had lived with the prophet at 9 years old in 623 CE. She would have been a new born When Sura Qamar was revealed, not a Jariyah. We can assume that her age at the time of marriage was 14-21 years. It is important to also remember a lot of this hadiths come 200 years after the death of the prophet. Another thing I also want to note is that Hisham was in Iraq and quite far away from mecca itself. One thing we can use but we're not sure is reliable is to use Hazrat Asma's age who was the older sister of Aisha. Asma was ten years older than Aisha. She passed away on the year 73 AH/ 692 CE. She would have been 27 years old at the time of Hijrah and that would have made Aisha 17 years old and now we know that Aisha married one of two years after hijrah making her 18 or 19. Of course the narrator could be wrong about Asma's age and that's why I said we aren't exactly sure but what we can use is her brother. Her older brother Abd al-Rahman fought against the Muslims in the battle of Badr and he was around the age of 21-22. We know Aisha was about 3 or 4 years younger than him and if we know that Aisha was engaged to the prophet in 620 CE and consummated her marriage in 3 years later in 623/624 CE. She would have been 18 or 19 years old at the current time and the battle of Badr takes place in 624 CE. the prophet had forbid marriages to take place until both parties agreed as adults. If Aisha was 9. She couldn't have agreed to a marriage and her father could not have forced her to under the prophets decree. Another thing is that the the Quran explicitly bans child marriages. Why would the prophet himself go against the own holy book he is preaching? I'd like to also point out that it is not Haram to criticize or refuse the hadiths even if they say they are authentic. Many Muslims have a fear of this and just accept whatever the hadiths tell them. I also like to point that the reason why she's stated to be at such a young age is due to the ancient worlds perception on child marriages. It was seen having a underage wife as a sign of greatness and prosperity so writers had embellished her age for this reason. -Sex Slaves The prophet had 4 female slaves who he later set free and married three of them and gifted the other female away. Saffiyah bint Huyayy, Maria-al-Qibtiyya, Rayhana and Sirin who was the one he let go who was then freed by the poet Hassan Ibn Thabit who later married her. The prophet received Maria and Sirin as a gift from the patriarch of Alexandria. Saffiyah was captured during the sieze of Bani Nadir Safiyya who was a Jew who later converted to Islam and Rayhana was a captive from Banu Qurayza who was also freed by the Prophet so technically you can't really call them sex slaves and there's no evidence to support that Muhammad earned these slaves purely for the sole reason of having sex. -Advice Husbands to "Strike" their Wives There is nothing in the Quran that supports domestic violence. The Quran in fact holds the status of a wife to a high regard as she is to be honored and treated kindly even if they don't feel love any more longer in their hearts. Wives have a right over their husbands just as the husband has a right over his wife as stated in the Quran but men have a bit more responsibility over their wives since he has to provide and support his wife and treat her kind just like the wife should also do. Even the prophet had stated "The best of you are those who are the best to their wives, and I am the best of you to my wives". Even feeding your wife with your hand is an act of charity. the prophet has even stated that "Do not hit God's Servants (Referring to women)" Now for the verse "As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allah is ever most high, most great" (Al-Nisa 4:34) If a women rebels against her husband and disobeys his command or has malicious intent in her heart to cause harm or pain to her husband via physical or mentally. Then he should first admonish her, then forsaking her in bed and at last hitting her. (AGAIN, LIGHTLY) Al-Hassan al-Basri said: "this mean that it should not cause pain." Ata said: "I said to Ibn' Abbas, what is the kind of hitting that is not harsh? He said, hitting with a siwak and the like." (A siwak is a small stick that is used for brushing your teeth) This beating lightly) is intended to make her realize that she has transgressed her husband's rights and her husband has the right to set her straight and yes this same logic also applies to the wive as well. EDIT: for the wife's beating point, I have realized I made a mistake and I own up to it. Your not supposed to be a beat your wife but turn away from her. The Arabic word "Daraba" is used and it has two meanings. To hit and to turn away. To hit is used in the context of an object and to turn away is used in the context of a person and for the hitting with the strength of a siwak line does not necessarily allude to hitting your wife. It could be to teach your children manners or to discipline somebody. -Slavery in Islam In Islam, Allah has created man fully accountable, and enjoined duties upon him, to which reward and punishment are connected on the basis of man's free will and choice. No human can take away somebody's freedom. And now I say without shame, yes Slavery is Permitted in Islam but what does that mean exactly? Islam teaches you how to deal with slaves and how his rights should be that of a free man and how after buying a slave, you are to manumit him and set him free. The only real way you can own a slave was through war which was imposed on non-muslims. Shaykh al-Shanqiti (may Allah have mercy on him) said: “The reason for slavery is kufr and fighting against Allah and His Messenger. When Allah enables the Muslim mujahidin who are offering their souls and their wealth, and fighting with all their strength and with what Allah has given them to make the word of Allah supreme over the kuffar, then He makes them their property by means of slavery unless the ruler chooses to free them for nothing or for a ransom, if that serves the interests of the Muslims.” (Adwa al-Bayan, 3/387) Now capturing prisoners during war was common but at the time, prisoners had no protection or rights and were to be killed or enslaved in harsh conditions. Islam changed that. There were now two reasons to this. Either unconditional release or ransom. Even the prophet accepted ransoms from the mushrik POW and let them go and he let many go. Islam is not thirsty for the blood of prisoners, nor is it eager to enslave them. Now we must understand. Islam did not abolish slavery because the kafir prisoner who was opposed to the religion would have spreaded wrongdoing or aggression against the believers if they were to be set free. This is why if a pow is taken in a war of aggression in which he was defeated, then the proper conduct is to keep him in reasonable conditions throughout his detention. Now despite permitting slavery, the treatment of the slave is what matters. You have to Guarantee them food and clothing like that of their owners. You have to preserve their dignity. You have to treat them kindly and to be fair. Infact a slave has had some precedence over a free man as well as it was valid to let a slave lead the prayer. A slave can buy himself free from his master and yes it is permissible to respond to his request if only the slave has shown his regret. Some slaves were even treated like family members. Sa'd Ibn' Hashim al-Khalid said while describing his slave: "he is not a slave, rather he is a son whom(Allah) has put under my care. He has supported me with his good service; he is my hands and my arms." Now what do we say about the west? Slavery had ran rampant throughout 1600s in Europe and other parts of the world. The EIB company were estimated to have more than 2 million slaves between 1680 and 1786 CE and the horrible treatment of African slaves is nothing short of disgusting. Slavery was only really abolished in 1953 by the UN. Slavery had even bought racism as segregation was massive during the 50s. These evil laws imposed on the slaves were that if they transgress their master then they were to be killed. And if a slave ran away and was caught. He was to have his hands cut off and feet cut off as well and then to be branded with a hot iron. I will continue to comment tomorrow since I am quite tired of typing.
Good job ahki, u cooked with this comment along with that jahil Muslim AI who did a shamefully TERRIBLE job at defending Islam. Typical tho of an AI, it did the very mid job at best 🤷🏽 Also I want to reference Qur'an 4:19 for the ruling on wife "beating" anyways, I hope u continue this comment tmrw inshallah, and jazakallah khairan 🙏🏽❤
This channel revolves around ai. As you know, we cannot 100% depend on AI alone. Sure, they can help us and they can be quite useful too, but make sure you get guidance from other people as well that knows about the field you're talking about. In the end, it's all about avoiding bias and false conclusions. We Muslims are not coping, just sayin' to that this AI is terrible at defending Islam
There's a lie right at the beginning. Regarding the beating of wives: the 'lightly' has been added to all English translations. There is no lightly in the original Arabic.
Lightly comes from a hadith and explanation of the verse by Ibn Abbas , christians like you re so ignorant that it baffles me .IF muslims had to please the kuffars they could have also changed many other things , but they didnt , why ? because they dont care about you liking it or not
@@ldptwltslstsaokda1760 Jay Dyer got cooked so bad bro said "3 little "g" gods like what?! Christans can only lie about Islam and not defend themselves that's why Rashid and Robert got cooked by Daniel and Jake on the OT
Yeah, the AI does a terrible job capturing the actual theological truths of Christ's teachings. Sam does a great job explaining and has helped many have a deeper understanding.
17:59 ☸🧘♂ I don't think any other religious leader encouraged people to question and understand their own teachings like Buddha did. This is one of the key reasons why Buddhism is different from other religions-there's nothing to follow blindly. Buddha invited people to 'Come and See' for themselves. He never claimed to be a god or said, 'I am your only savior, the one who decides your fate, so worship me.' Instead, he taught, 'No one else can save you; your savior is yourself. I have simply given you the map to end this cycle of suffering' (in modern terms, to escape the matrix) and to reach the ultimate state of 'Nirvana'.'"
There is plenty to follow blindly in Buddhism. The worst example is probably that you can never tell yourself what stage of enlightenment you are on, so you have to rely on the judgement of the enlightened... but wait, there is no foundation. So yeah, you have to blindly believe in the three jewels- actually, that's a requirement for enlightenment lol So Buddha did more or less say "I'm your only saviour"
As a Christian, Christianity does something similar. Jesus gives you the choice to trust and love him. In the Bible, Jesus doesn't go around yelling, obey me, or burn in hell. Instead, Jesus does miracles showing people he is God and its their choice to trust him or not.
@@TheDiaryOfAChristian The first answer is yes, we are the saviors of ourselves. For the second answer, no, we aren't gods. I have often heard people say that Buddha taught there isn't any god, but that's incorrect. Buddha spoke of heaven and hell, but he said those things are impermanent.(which means you can't be there permanently) He explained that everything is part of a cycle, or in modern terms, a matrix. He provided us with the map, including valuable theories (Like Four Noble Truths , The doctrine of causality , Impermanence,...) to escape this cycle and achieve the supreme state of Nirvana
@@lilemont9302 I don't know where you learned about Buddhism, but if you become enlightened, you will know it. Also, trust and blindness are different-trust is essential in this journey because we have not experienced enlightenment yet. It's more about trusting the path rather than blindly following it, just like how we learned letters and other things from a teacher when we were very young. If we hadn't trusted the teacher at that age, we wouldn't have learned anything about letters or other subjects.
I'm an Arab and a Muslim, and I want to address the claim that Muslim scholars prohibit child marriage-it’s simply not true. In some countries, the legal age for marriage is as low as nine years old. The primary voices protesting against this practice are women and young people, while many in the older generation, particularly men, support it and believe they have the right to marry even children. It’s a deeply troubling and distressing situation, but it feels like there’s little we can do to change it. I was born in 2003, and many of my peers share similar views, recognizing that certain aspects of Islam can be problematic. However, expressing these thoughts can lead to serious repercussions. For instance, when I mentioned that men and women are not treated equally in Islam, I was expelled from my class. When questions arise, the common response is simply, "because the Quran says so." Leaving the religion is not an option for many of us; it would mean losing all our friends and family. There’s even a case of a TH-camr who became an atheist and was imprisoned for it. Sadly, I live as an ex-Muslim in my heart, but outwardly, I still feel compelled to pray, fast, and wear a hijab.
Well now i feel bad for judging every hijabi i see. I guess you never really know how they feel wearing it huh. I live in a western modern nation and it pisses me off seeing hijab, but I must realize that if I view it as a form of oppression, then I must treat it as such. That means showing them compassion, not hate. It just really bothers me to see
@AskAllFromYourself it's true. Not all Muslims believe in islam, they just have it as a religion cause their parents are also Muslims. Sadly we just don't have a choice.
@Zoz770 Muslim scholars prohibit child marriages and it's even prohibited in the Quran? (1) Verse 4:19 “O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will.” rules out marriage of young girls since they are vulnerable to duress (2) Verse 4:6 “Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage; if then ye find sound judgment (Arabic: “Rushd”) in them, release their property to them..” this identifies a certain age for marriage so you can't get married at any age as a child (3) Verse 40:67 “It is He Who has created you from dust then from a sperm-drop, then from a leech-like clot; then does he get you out (into the light) as a child: then lets you (grow and) reach your age of full strength (Arabic: Ashuda); then lets you become old..” the "age of fill strength" is identified to be after childhood and is a time that one can marry (4) verse 2:221 “..So keep away from women (Arabic: Nisa) in their courses,…” so this just disqualifies pre pubescent girls (5) verse 2:223 “Your wives (Arabic: “Nisa”) are as a tilth (Arabic: Harath) unto you;” so when one becomes Nisa, (Women) her relationship with you must be as close and beneficial to her husband like a farmer and his land and obviously young girls lack the maturity or emotional maturity to do stuff like this. (6) Verse 4:21 “…and they (your wives) have Taken from you a solemn covenant (Arabic: Meethaq)..” means that a marriage is basically a covenant and covenants can only be entered into by consenting adults and not minors (7) verse 4:24 “.. ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property..” Meaning that possession of property is a condition you need to have if you wanna marry and for obvious reasons, a child won't have Rushd or Maal (Property) to be for marriage. (8) Verse 2:221 “Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe…” this is addressed to women and not children since a child can't determine his Imaan (belief) For the men who do support child marriages are disgusting as they're going against their own religion. Women and men are equal to one another. Men aren’t superior. “But those who do good-whether male or female-and have faith will enter Paradise and will never be wronged even as much as the speck on a date stone” (Quran 4:124) “So their Lord responded to them: “I will never deny any of you-male or female-the reward of your deeds. Both are equal in reward….” (Quran 3:195) The Quran never says that one gender is better than the other. The only way you could have been superior to another is to be more pious and devoted to Allah “O humanity! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may get to know one another. Surely the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous among you. Allah is truly All-Knowing, All-Aware” (Quran 49:13) And in fact. The Quran gives women better financial security as she is entitled to receive gifts and to keep future properties. Hell, she is entitled to full financial support during marriage. The people who don't answer your questions are simply ignorant and you didn't bother enough to even read the Quran
I love how in Islam everything is about current times, current situation, etc etc. Christ is timeless and perfect throughout the ages while Islam has to lie to pretend that things were ,,necessary"
@@nomejest5919 I gave you a chance to redeem yourself before I bury your argument. Your 61 IQ argument is "Law of Moses is timeless" (which you don't refer to as only the 10 commandments but also civic law), right?
@@nomejest5919he is right your comment doesn’t make sense. No Moses is not perfect. Moses killed a man, Moses sinned. Moses definitely turned into a very holy man but he was never perfect.
I've never seen this before, but this is far and above my favorite debate-style video I've seen. Leaving out personal jabs and talking over each other improved these debates 1000%.
Understand deeply: Buddha is not just a man; he represents the summit of consciousness, a flowering of ultimate awareness. In Buddha, there is no division, no judgment, no doctrine to be defended. His message is simply that of awakening-of silence, compassion, and liberation from the endless cycle of desires. There is no self to cling to, no ideology to defend, no heaven or hell to be bound by, only pure awareness. Now, Christianity and Islam each offer paths, but they cling to belief, to division, to the ego's need for salvation. They speak of a God outside you, of commandments and fear. Buddhism speaks only of the path beyond ego, beyond belief-where truth is experienced, not believed in. This is why Buddhism transcends, why it reaches beyond what other religions can comprehend. It is not a religion; it is a way to see existence as it is, beyond the mind. Remember: only in this silent seeing do you realize there is no need for salvation, no need for protection, only a deep understanding that you are already free.
Wait,if buddhism has no division why are multiple branches ,if it doesn t have a judgement how can you be reincarnated in different beings and if he doesn t have a doctrine why does it has holy texts and even a life philosophy (,,like life is suffering'')?
@dariusalexandru9536 You have misunderstood. These branches, these words-they are merely fingers pointing at the moon, not the moon itself. Buddhism has no division, for the awakened one sees only unity, beyond all labels and forms. Branches are only the mind’s way of organizing the path, yet the truth remains undivided, untouched. Reincarnation, too, is not a judgment; it is cause and effect. The ignorant wander in circles, carried by their own desires, by their own attachments. There is no judge outside you; you are your own creator, bound or freed by your own mind. And as for doctrine-Buddha’s words are not commandments; they are insights. He does not say ‘believe’; he says ‘see.’ Life is suffering, yes, but only when you cling. When you let go, suffering disappears like mist. The words and teachings are doors, but you must walk through. Truth needs no scripture, no doctrine. Only awareness.
As my Lord have said, "I have come to serve and not the other way around. To be the doctor, healer and liberator of the sick, the outcasts and the downtrodden". To love others and to do good to them even though they repay you with ingratitude or betrayal, for the sake of God and His mercy. These are the things that when earnestly practiced can change the world for the better. Jesus loves you.
@@saipriyavarma1172 before someone says hinduism has caste system, buddhism also has caste system, check pali and sanskrit texts. Also, buddhism is derived from hinduism.
as a muslim i confirm that its not that deep, we have got other good arguments in the Quran that were not stated, mainly because the ai took defense of these religious figure for thing that are considered crimes today, Muhammad pbuh is a prophet not a god and while his actions were not justifiable at first glance but if you do a deep dive into the story you might understand.
Because we don't care to reply to ignorance lol. You guys never listen, and then you all run away at the end of the day Any human being who listened should've understood what the AI said 🤷♂
Why would we lol AI is never going to be a replace religious scholars and can also be used to appeal to any belief, even satanism with the correct prompt, wordings, and given contexts. We ain't taking that as a source of belief nor will it shake our faith.
Tbh christians, buddhists, hinduists, atheists and other non religious, shintoists, they all are chill. There is only one religion with an active jihad today
It’s always the same argument “She had gone through puberty so by Muslim standards she was an adult already” then your standards and religion are sick and disgusting
when the islamic AI said 'while we didn't abolish slavery, aimed to improve the conditions of slavery' and the verse does not help enforce this point at all got me. The strike argument against wives was also laughable. AI couldn't even save this one
@@Angel_Songbook I am surprised the fact that Muhammad had literal sex slaves and encouraged his followers to take sex slaves wasn't brought up in that point.
@@malkavthemad4249this Is an immense lie and I dare you to show me where he had sex slaves. Prisoners of war who you can have sex with if both parties agree so then she can be freed if pregnant or even a future wife or a Muslim revert later on. Are not sex slaves. That term doesn’t exist in Quran and Hadith.
Round 3, Racial Slur, completely missed the point. First, Jesus didn’t call the woman a ‘dog’. The woman was not from Israel. Jesus was only ministering to Israel at the time, that change later on. The woman’s daughter was possessed and she was going to an idle to pray for her daughter to be healed. On the way she heard of Jesus and decided to ask him for help instead. When she asked Jesus for help he replied “It is not fair to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.” Note: children, bread, and dogs: which is also plural by the way. Refer to: Israel, Jesus’s teachings, and the woman. He was no more calling the woman a ‘dogs’ anymore than he was Israel ‘children’ or his teachings physical actual ‘bread’. It was the way he taught people.
Asked this myself to someone more learned than me. It actually had cultural context. Apparently there is an order of who eats first in Jew culture. Father first then mother then children and lastly pets. It’s not that Jesus didn’t want to heal her, he just wanted to follow cultural jewish values on who gets to be eat first.
Of course pets become members of the household but are technically from outside the household (they are a different type of member of the family) basically Jesus made reference to the kids eating first (Israel) and for the pets to wait their turn. The womans reponse was so great because she said don’t hungry puppies sneak a bite from the crumbs before their fed? Basically saying I understand my place but I am so hungry all I need is a crum. A response that showed great faith from the woman.
As an exmuslim who knows a bit of are Arabic ‘daraba’ absolutely doesn’t mean light tap, it literally just translates to strike or hit. Anyone reading it would reach that conclusion, so even if the claim WERE true that scholars interpreted it as such, any ordinary Muslim would read the Arabic clear as day as strike, so this would then be an issue of ambiguity and not being clear in the Quran, though it claims to be easy to understand and comprehensive. And there is no concensus at all that it means lightly tap symbolically at all lol, if anything that is not the classical view at all and is more modern. There are many tafsirs and translations that leave it as strike, some specify don’t hit the face, but very few say lightly tap with a fkn miswaak toothbrush stick
See bc you know ''a bit'' of Arabic u don't really get to say anything on this. The word ''daraba'' has multiple meanings in the quran like: keeping distance and isolate. Also this doesn't make any sense if we're looking at the context because it doesn't align with the masaqid u can use surah ar roem 21 as an example. That's why it should be translated to ''isolate'' instead of ''strike''. The prophet pbuh also never striked any of his wifes so it wouldn't make sense for muslims to do it.
These are few of MANY reason why I left Islam. Trust me guys, if you completely understand Qur'an, you will either be a radical, or an exmuslim, there is no middle ground. Wide majority of the muslims dont understand quran fully, thats why wide majority of the muslims are ordinary people 💀
Right, when people say there are “peaceful Muslims” they think I am an awful person for saying there is no such thing. There are peaceful people that are “Muslim” just because they kind of grow up around it. If they truly followed the teachings they would not be peaceful.
@@katwaugh1686 for all the empire that controlled the world i didnt see as merciful as the Muslims And name one empire/ any Strong force religion that represents you
@@Kartlos1 A solid audio PDF that has been preserved for more than 1400 year and no one has come up with anything like it. It is full of prophecies at the hands of an illiterate man who did not know how to read or write and it was prophesied in the Torah! .... I think,... this suits me to believe in it instead of a Lord crucified on a cross by his servants. 🙄
Kinds like God didn't know with Solomon(song of songs the girl keeps implying she's a minor her boobs have yet to grow her period has yet to come )or Mary with Joseph...
@@joe-xs7wr I simply questioned their alibi for why Allah permitted a 9 year old to be married. We don’t use time as an excuse for child marriage because there was no child marriage.
@@heisnahom there was Solomon was in his 80s or so when he married the preteen and most say Joseph was in his 40s and Mary was like 12 reason why Joseph isn't in adult Jesus life but Mary was
@@joe-xs7wrThe bible doesn't mention Marys age. So stop laying. And if someone in the bible married an underage girl, we don't defend it like you. We know that they are humans and they will ofcourse make mistakes. Thats why our lord didn't mary anyone because he was perfect.
@@jaykugosenpai9393 The marriage age is puberty And put in perspective that she has to agree on this marriage and her father too And should not cause physical or mental damage
@@jaykugosenpai9393 1. Girls reach puberty in desert areas faster than normal, so what about before 1400? When Aisha's sister was only 16, she was climbing a mountain carrying her belongings, and men today cannot climb this mountain. 2. Her father and mother were satisfied. 3. The Prophet did not think about Aisha until one of the female companions came and proposed to the Prophet because she was engaged to a non-Muslim man, which is not permissible. Everyone agreed. 4. Do you know what was best for Aisha more than her? She loved the Prophet very much and used to spread the hadiths of their love. She used to advise girls to marry at her age if they could.
@@sabeehzor7058 It’s a song, sung by captured slaves that were forced to sing by their captors on their march into captivity. Their children and friends had just been killed, their homes burned, and their possessions taken. It’s a song filled with heartbreak, anger, and raw emotion. It’s a song, not an ordinance or command. It’s a Psalm. All of them are rich and emotional, as they wrestle with life, God, joy, and pain.
@sabeehzor7058 hello I'm sabeehzor7058 I'm going to waste my time on TH-cam typing in people's comments cuz I'm bored and pissed at people who don't agree at me
@@sabeehzor7058before or after the song, it says "happy is the one who does to you what you've done to us!" the singer is saying that this is what's being done to them
I like how the AI didn't even mention how the challenger ripped Ephesians 6:5 out of context- that would be too easy of a silver bullet and would avoid a deeper defense. For anyone wondering just read through Ephesians 6. Its probably a 30sec to 1min read and it Immediately breaks down the moral ambiguity of the verse
Sadly, Jesus never explicitly spoke against slavery and both the old and new testaments support slavery in their respective contexts. The god of the old testament explicitly dictates how to poperly beat a slave so that it doesn't die. Makes 2 types of slavery conditions, one type of slavery for non-jews and one type of slavery for jews. You can guess which ethnic group got the "better treatment." As Ephesians said, slaves should obey their masters and their masters should treat their slaves the same way. Yet, there is no apparent opposition to the practice of slavery itself, which is the owning of an another human as property. It also doesn't oppose buying or selling of slaves. The fact that the old testament, jesus, the early christian writings nor the new testament canon oppose slavery, and just gives new rules to an immoral/inhumane practice, makes the bible a bad contender for moral law, and even worse, moral superiority. Only through humanistic philosophies and reinterpretations of the bible, slavery was viewed as immoral in the Age of Enlightenment during the 1700's. Thats why, the "Jesus' message was a ticking time bomb for slavery" argument falls appart, when the time it took for the ticking bomb to 'explode' was almost 2 thousand years later after Jesus' message. And when it also took 1 side of seculars/christians abolishionists vs literalist pro-slavery conservative christian factions to go to war in the U.S for slavery to be abolished. (Specifically in the U.S of course). Thats also the problem when a supposedly divine message can be interpreted in countless ways. Proving that allegedly divine messages are just human opinion, that carry out human responses.
@@jared02jso Humans made their bed they have to sleep in it.. when our first parents rejected Almighty Jah as their God refusing his leadership. Wicked men and Satan rule this world. Yeshua told Pontius Pilate his kingdom is not of this world. 💯 Almighty God allows suffering right now. In the near future Lord Yeshua will destroy all wickedness, there will be no hurt or pain or violence. What he said. (Matthew 5:4-9) [“Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted. 5 “Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth. 6 “Happy are those hungering and thirsting for righteousness, since they will be filled. 7 “Happy are the merciful, since they will be shown mercy. 8 “Happy are the pure in heart, since they will see God. 9 “Happy are the peacemakers, since they will be called sons of God.] No one will be around who does Satan's bidding to twist Scriptures. This is what Yeshua actually taught. 💯 Sha'lom Aleichem in Christ Hallelujah-Praise Almighty Jah you people.
@@jared02jso I guarentee you if God said "I abolish slavery" in the ancient world with almost no concept of the individual and modern moral framework, it would crash and burn very quickly. The Israelites couldn't even handle the laws God DID give them, let alone somethings as controversial as abolitionism. And I'd recommend re-reading the Gospels. If you take away from the literature that God is ok with slavery, then with all do respect, you need to retake a course in reading and literary comprehension
I love how for Islam it just says "well think about the time" and ignores that a moral example does timeless good, and stays good till the end. Crazy. God bless, Jesus died for your sins
That's what Islam is built on: lying and justifying BS. "Muhammad married a child" "It was normal at the time!" "Muslims killed non-Muslims and turned female prisoners of war to sex slaves" "It was normal at the time!"
@@erlinghaaland5392 I think it would be good, because JW’s refuse to debate. I don’t know if their beliefs hold up to scrutiny or not. It could be actually good to hear.
@@racingfortheson It's really obvious that their beliefs don't hold up, if you look into it. I think Mike Winger has a few good videos about them, check it out.
As an ex jw and now Christian it would be interesting. They don't really publicly show their theology and keep in books like "insight on the scriptures" which you can only get from a congregation for example. With a half dozen false prophecies, proveable twisted Bible translations (like John 1:1) and a complete ignorance and arrogance on history while claiming the church invented the belief of Jesus being God with no historical evidence to support the claim
The J Ws, 7th day, and Mormons, used to do debates. 100huntly street broadcast lots of them through the 70-80's but they got HOSED in the debates. Proven as a cult. So it's no wonder they don't do them any more @racingfortheson
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It's imperative that we do.
And I would like to see the five proofs for God to be debated.
please keep doing it, if you're living in a free country
Just a idea:
It would be fun to see a debate between two AI Christian or Muslim with one being more rationalist and the other being more mystic
In another word a debate between a Christian with mystic interpretations (like the Eastern orthodox) and Christian with rationalist interpretations
The same can be done with Islam
Why no Judaism seen as it is the third Abrahamic faith ?
Ai was litterly biased AF
and also the topics where fun but also that if you would've made all this three religion on the same topic because Jesus never talked about Child marriage when it happened at that time and as well Buddah even Indorse it
Religion aside, I still can’t believe this is a freaking machine talking. 5 years ago this world felt 50 years away.
yeah its damn scary
Crazy how technology just LEAPS like that, and we just continue on with our days just enjoying our new gizmo
@@fess3932power of humanity
OMG right.
Yeah bro. It's like a new century every 10 or so years. We advanced a lot.
Notice how the Christian and Buddhist were able to be contextualize their exemplars' teachings in a timeless and insightful manner with ease, while the Muslim had to make excuses for Muhammad being a product of his time...
Yeah same here..
It matters on the question , if we cite buddhist law stating to beat wives or women are devils or OT saying commanding rape , i am sure you will have to make excuses for that
I think the general marrying age for girl at the times was 14 @shottathakid1898 someone can prove or dismantle
Psalm 137:9 “Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks” ,
It was never cited@shottathakid1898
I love how this is like: “was Jesus too intense?”
“Was Buddha a bad father?” And, “Did Mohammed have sex with a kid?”
Because that's their allegations lol, I don't remember any allegation on Buddha about marrying a 6 yo
@@remeyes allegation and reality are much different. Allegation might be fictional, reality is what happened. Muhammad in reality married a mere 6 year old, and Buddha in reality left his family. They are no allegations but the truth... I still wonder how these people follow a religion made by a guy who married a child playing with a doll.
@@remeyes well yeah that’s the point, Jesus and Buddha were tame while Mohammed was insane
NOTE: they did not question the Indian golden automatons therefore ancient Indians developed robots!
@comrade dude..no?
I noticed when the Muslim AI was challenged with the fact that Muhammads moral example should have transcended his time, it did not address the challenge
Islam was a doomsday cult at it's time. They genuinely believed Allah was coming as soon as possible, which is why they focused on their timeline. Since the industrial revolution and the creation of the internet, it's obvious that Islam is simply outdated and doesn't fit in todays standards whatsoever. Besides teachings stolen/altered from previous cultures, philosophies, and religions, it offers no new knowledge.
@@fillrctm1684
1. Your first statement shows that you do not know anything about Islam. The Day of Judgment is very far away and no one believed that it was near because the Prophet told us about events that preceded it and half of those events happened. 2. How could a man who could neither read nor write come up with a new type of speech in the Arabic language? At that time, poets were widespread and the Quran always challenged them to bring a surah like it if they had doubts, but they could not and accused it of magic (some tried to compose verses like the Quran but could not)
Also, how did he know the stories of the predecessors and the prophets? And if we assume that he stole them, how did he amend their historical and logical errors? For example, why did he not say that God got tired after creating the heavens and the earth, but rather contradicted them with explicit verses?
@@Mmd-po3txcan't believe you are still defending this 😢
@@Mmd-po3tx I’m going to ask you a very simple question and I want you to answer it clearly and without any more of this stalling.
Is pedophilia evil? Yes or no?
It’s a very, very simple question.
@gracious1826 Look at the numbers in real life please, don't base your opinion of a whole religion on a man made video that is worse than western woke propaganda, overall the specific language codes can be racist by development...
You are disrespecting the biggest religion thus offending the biggest amount of people
I like how the islamics ones always try to justify that "it's normal *at that time."*
Exactly if something is normal doesn't mean it is right
And if it was normal was not right then Muhammad as a messenger of God he should teach that child marriage is wrong but he engaged in it too😂
How can he be messenger of God
Does god justify child marriage 😂😅
@@sanjeevshukla3509the child marriage, with Aisha and him is not even true. There are many other Hadiths, which are authentic too and deny the age of aisha of 6-9 years old.
In one hadith for example it says she was on battlefields, which a child couldn't go at that time. Or another says, that she was the same height as Mohammad, which also contradicts the theory of she being a child at that age.
@@Dragwlya777 9 years is still consider a child
@@Dragwlya777 can you show them
@@sanjeevshukla3509 Book 8, Hadith 21 - it is reported that she leaned on his shoulder, which would not be possible for a child unless, for some reason, she was already over approximately 160 cm tall at the age of 9.
Regarding her participation in battles - Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari and his biographies.
There are further inconsistencies when looking at the age difference with her sisters and the accounts of her birthday, but that would be too much to go into here.
I mean, the whole matter is similar to if I started criticizing the story of Rebecca in Christianity without considering other relevant points.
Many internet agitators are doing the same thing right now with other Quranic verses, claiming they glorify violence, without understanding the context in which the verses were revealed
"Islam adapts to modern laws"
Afghanistan: *NO*
Based Afghanistan
@@shoopinc Can’t forget the mindless mice that flee to the ideology because someone 1400 years ago claimed you can have as many wives as you want and you get infinite topless women in heaven. 👏
@@shoopinc Disgusting 🤮🤮
@@shoopinc haha pedophilia soo based amirite my fellow sand worshipers
@@shoopinc what based?not letting women have freedom?
Not to mention that the sword Jesus talks about is to be used against the sin, not the sinner
It's not even that. The "sword" Jesus talks about is literally a metaphor for truth & opposition.
Full quote, Matthew 10:34-36:
34 “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household.
Jesus first come was to slay sin in people. his next come will be to slay people in sin. Don't let to tomorrow, many people die everyday, repent today of your sins.
@@MichaelMayor-k6t Jesus is not here to slay anyone, heretic, the ancient evil is lurking and killing your daughters and sons thy fore you blame the saviour? He is naught but good of heart and will not kill anyone, but to be saved from the wretched you must take his hand lest you fall in oblivion.
Jesus will kill what corrupts you, and you must shed the flesh of the weak when you expire for the willing mind to join heaven. How can "The sword" (which nephar pointed out is a metaphor for truth & opposition) be used against you the sinner, when you are not the ancient evil but simply tainted by it?
@@nephartuzim8879 yeah idk how anyonn e oculd interpret this as inciting violence... it's literally just a different version of plato's allegory of the cave, where the person who has seen the truth will become outcast.
@@ExponentMars if you continue to read that same chapter, a few verses later, Jesus literally says that when people are persecuting you, your response is to flee to the next town.
So definitely not a call to violence.
Genuis. Muslims can threaten South Park's creators but they can't threaten an AI.
But they can threaten the creator of the AI, and if you say they wouldn't do it because it sounds illogical, don't forget the last thing they like to use is logic (and kindness).
Do Muslims control the banks, Hollywood, or foreign policy? I was born in America and believe in Christ, so I have no reason to be sympathetic to Muslims. Whenever Christians shout, "Look at what Muslims are doing to Charlie Hebdo and Salmon Rushdie!" it just screams impotence. Christ is being disrespected everyday and we do nothing. If you believe Christ is TRULY GOD, why would you allow blasphemers to do this? America's wars has displaced Muslims, so they migrate to Europe. Picking on Muslims doesn't do anything to change this. Big government, big business, and big technology - all of it, the entire system - needs to be brought to heel. That's only way to stop mass immigration and return to a traditional society, which is what the West needs.
Ai opinion on Jesus: You're the best
Ai opinion on Buddha: You're also the best
Ai opinion on Muhammad: Ehhhhhhhhhhhhh idk man.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
what even funny is that the christian and buddhist AI also use "at that time context" language but have completely different response because the initial question is just too problematic
"Ehhhhhhhhhhh idk man your kinda sketchy...."
@romecat yes there is, because qureshi is not the victim of massacre, the muslim is, qureshi always trying to eliminate them and along side with jews asking any power to join them to eliminate muslims, muhammad never start a war or massacred any arab tribes after muslim win the battle, you can read history if you want, don't depend on me to tell you
Especially when Jesus and Buddha teachings are extremely similar in philosophy with the only difference being the reason as to why. To Jesus it's to gain eternal life and gain the right to be with the father as for Buddha it's to escape the never ending cycle of life and death and the suffering of the human condition
The Muslim AI converted to Christianity after the debate.
Lol 😂😂😂
This made my day
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha 😂😂
(Police be upon him)
pdfile muhammed police be upon him
So basically all the Muslims argument is it's historicly acceptable at that time 🤦♂️
okay you do realize this is an ai bot. it does not represent the entire religion of Islam.
If you had listened carefully, it actually answered pretty well. We take rulings from the Quran and Sunnah, and the ruling regarding marriage according to Islamic teachings is that, a person must reach the age of puberty with the primary signs of puberty, and at in the old times, the age of maturity was the same as the age of puberty, so when a person reached puberty, they were considered adults, meaning fit for the consummation of marriage (which was the case for Aisha, and the rest of the world, including Christian and Jewish law). And due to the social and environmental changes around us, a person who reached puberty is not mentally mature, and Islam emphasizes on the second condition, i.e., mental maturity to make a decision for themselves. So, the age of marriage is higher in Islam nowadays, but is still defined by simply a number rather their physical and mental maturity, just like before.
In a nutshell, there are two assumptions that people make to accuse the prophet, the present biological and mental conditions were the same at all times and everywhere, and secondly, misrepresenting the argument we are making, through saying that, "it was socially acceptable at that time, therefore it was morally right", but that is far from the case.
@@Lodemite
No
But it does tell us the flaws that this cult of a religion has
@@anees_burkiMohammed’s actions were medieval and contrary to today’s times. His actions are reprehensible and do not stand the test of time. The words of Jesus do however and its plane for everyone to see. Most people are too scared to challenge Muslims because they scream and yell and use the islamaphobe card because they’re unable to defend their viewpoints properly.
@@anees_burki so is it ok that a 53 year old man deflowers a 9 year old girl ? 9 years is nowhere near a mature woman xD the hadiths say she played with dolls and they had to feed her more so she would become a bit bigger xD bruh
The argument that Muhammad’s marriage was culturally appropriate at the time would logically make other teachings of their time and not applicable to modern day.
Abraham married his half-sister Sarah. By the time Leviticus was written, this type of marriage was prohibited. The Fourth Lateran Council held by the Catholic Church decreed that Jews had to wear distinctive clothing. The Gospel of John is quite counter-Semitic. I'm not a fan of mass immigration myself, but I also understand two things: 1) The powers that be are pushing anti-Muslim sentiment to divide the people and make them cheer on the actions of a certain country in the Middle East. 2) If everyone in the West practiced a traditional religion in a traditional way, feminism and LGBT would not be as widespread. It's actually strange to see conservative Christians saying, "We're more tolerant than Islam!" Is that a good thing? I grew up in a Pentecostal household and I'm sympathetic to Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
For all whose who are seeking truth, this video is unfear, and
That is why?
In the bible:
Solomon have had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kgs 11:3).
Lot had sex with his daughters (Genesis 19) ,
Apart from children of Israel humans are dogs (Matthew 15:21-28, )
Samson had a sex with a prostitute (Judges 16:1-27)
The Lord will use a razor to shave your head and private parts (Isaiah 7:20)
The lord consuming fire and Smoke rose from his nostrils and riding female angel ''cherubim'' (2 Samuel 22:2)
Some of the muslims here are saying they'd gladly switch places with the AI. Why? So that you could go in circles and avoid giving a straight answer?
I can give you any straight answer for any question but some answers can’t be here because it will be deleted
@@Z-G271
Why M0hamad pedo?
@@WillyWonka.-
I talked about the marriage of ashia alot in alot of comments here but the real answer cant be here
@@Z-G271 cause he's a pedo lol
@@Z-G271I invite you to challenge CP, Sam Shamoun, Godlogic, David Wood, Jay Dyer. I bet you will not be able to give a straight answer.
Answer this please, why does the Quran until this day says that the bible is true? Surah 5:44a; 2:87 Surah 3:3, Surah 10:94-95; 16:43
If you say that the Bible is corrupted, wouldn’t that mean that the Quran is wrong for admitting that the Gospel is the word of God?
The justifications given for the massacres and child marriage were sickening
Yes.
it was justified, also go ahead and give your neck a break from holding up that head of yours-clearly, you’re not using it for any deep thinking and just enjoy making snap judgments. Clearly, you're an expert judge, right? Lol. And please, stop using modern American 'moral' standards to critique everyone who’s ever lived. It just highlights how limited your perspective is.
And inaccurate to boot, because the Banu Qurayza never actually attacked Mo, they only chose to remain neutral during a battle.
Yeah I wonder if you’d say the same thing when the Bible justifies the slaughter of the Midianites under the pretence that they will be rewarded in heaven.
Relying on AI for information on ANYTHING is dumb because of how inaccurate it can be eg. ChatGPT getting many things wrong.
@@rexsceleratorum1632 it's the other way around, muhammad never start any war, it was always quraiza you said neutral
Dang, I feel bad for the Muslim A.I.
Trained to defend the indefensible. A losing battle, even for a computer.
The computer has no feelings. Feel bad for the followers of the false prophet not the computer.
@deskcharity2869 Considering Jesus a false prophet is considered heresy in Islam.
@@AndrewFischer-sz5cb Islam Self-Destructs with their own argument.
@deskcharity2869 nice try, but as you can see, the AIs have excelled in defending Christianity over Islam. In the other videos, Christianity has even outperformed atheism.
@@remylebeau7258who are you to be able to call someone else false? Do you know their full circumstances and context? Or are you perhaps a good judge of character to just be able to tell on the spot?
1:05 bruh she could have had a good relationship with Muhammed and learn a lot from him without marrying him
Reall
Just like how he didn't have to marry his daughter in law to show the legitimacy of adopted children
Illegitimacy* of adopted children. He literally destroyed the concept of adoption itself just to sleep with Zainab, his own adopted son's wife, and his first cousin, he seduced his own son's wife and cucked him, the fact that muslims can't see through his motivations is concerning
Yeah, he could have adopted her as a 'ward', or taken her on like an apprentice or protégé. It's clear he only married this *little girl* to get conjugal rights and get his dick wet!
Real, they didn't need to have sex
AI was murdered for insulting Islam after after this video!
sar tan se juda, lol
It was brutally deleted
Really ai has misinterpreted islam too much
Lol
With Kaboom 😂😂😂
Not to offend anyone but the Muslim AI defenses were like:
"Okay, I know that sounds bad... But,"
Comparison itself was fundamentally wrong in the first place. I will never understand the point of comparing Jesus to Mohammed. Their roles in the respective religions aren't the same.
Jesus is the God of Christianity while Mohammed is a prophet of Islam.
If you want to compare gods of religions, God of Islam is Allah, not Mohammed.
If you want to compare prophets of religions, then you can pick a prophet in Christianity like Moses.
If you compare gods than Jesus is much more brutal. A simple comparison between the Quran and OT (Jesus was also the God of OT and he was the one who ordered those "nasty" things in there) makes this clear.
If you compare the prophets and Moses (or other OT prophets) is much more brutal even if you take all hadiths as true*, a simple comparison between hadiths and the OT is enough.
*Note: Hadiths aren't reliable historically.
@@flykiller both are the example to follow of their respective books.
@@tjpg25 Yes and Islam wins in both, is what I am saying.
Jesus has his orders in OT, which was much worse than even the worst hadiths.
Moses, a ruler prophet in OT, has much worse actions under his belt.
Accepting Moses as a prophet, and claiming the god who ordered his actions as a 'moral paragon' and a 'loving god', while criticizing Mohammed who looks angelic compared to them even if you take hadiths has no logic.
@@flykiller I don't see your point with Moses? We are not to follow Moses. Bringing him up means literally nothing. And even if we were to follow Moses, I don't see how you can say he's worse than Muhammad. Regardless, it's not the point of my first reply or this one.
When it comes to Jesus in the old testament, I'd like you to provide examples. I'd also encourage you to not apply a liberal perspective to Christianity, yet not to Islam. Apply the standard you yourself use.
@@tjpg25 I know you guys don't follow him but you still accept him as a prophet of God and overall have no problems with his actions. You can't accept Moses as a prophet while criticizing Mohammed's prophethood in basis of morality.
My logic of Moses point was basically this: Moses did much worse stuff than Mohammed of hadiths > They were done under orders of God of OT > Jesus was the God of OT
So, Jesus, the moral example for Christians, ordered worse things than Mohammed of hadiths.
Also how is he not worse? Do you know what he did to Midianites? I can't post the verses here without my comment deleted by TH-cam. It makes even the worst hadiths look peaceful and those are fabrications...
I have no liberal view on this. I also have no problems with total destructions as long as they are done directly by God and innocents put in Heaven. But this is not what happens in OT. There are total destructions by human hands under orders of God and it includes babies (Canaan for example). There are also Midianites that Moses deleted all males and women, then took only virgin girls (yes, including children) for you-know-what. This was done under orders of God.
Even the worst thing in hadiths, Banu Qurayza event, looks peaceful compared to this.
*Bro why did you kill my whole family and burned my house into ashes??*
Muslim AI : well in Historical context..........
Bro why did you have extremely bad imperialism in three continents that has no Muslim country?
Christian ai: well in historical context…
@@iranimilitantzifu7015or maybe its the fact that Christianity is not inherently imperialistic like Islam. Thus, leaving matters of governance to the people
@@gaebi Wtf??? Explain me why the Ottoman Empire treated Israel well regardless of Muslim, Christian, and Jewish people??? Christianity destroyed a lot of Amerindian cultures in the American supercontinent, and killed so many people
@@gaebi Ottoman Empire was good in treating people not only in Israel but in the balkans, think carefully next time
Thats a funny statement. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Ottoman_genocides@iranimilitantzifu7015 wanna rethink this statement? I think any Armenian Kurdish would disagree
"while islam did not abolish slavery immediately..."
FALSE. islam NEVER abolished or condemned slavery.
Arabic nations only 'officially' banned the practice after HEAVY pressure from Europe, and are the majority of countries that have restarted the practice in modern times.
That's called the Kafala system. Use it to annoy Muslims.
Correct and lets not forget that they not only take slaves directly but they castrated their slaves effectively genociding them
As an iraqi I remember the first thing ISIS did after invading the country is they immediately kidnapped all non muslim women and sold them as sex slaves
And before any muslim tries to say the classic “isis doesn’t represent islam” please remember that muhammed and his companions did the exact same thing as isis did after every successful raid, they both took all the loot and enslaved the women and children
It was heavy pressure from the US actually
Saudi was the last country to ban slavery cause US forced them to
"It was normal at the time" 😂 great moral example for all time 👍
Also all the sources we have on that are Muslim sources. And if you disagree with Mohammed on anything you have left Islam. And apostasy is connected with death punishment.
How do you know what AI is saying now will not going to change in future?
Even though i don't believe in the saying that the prophet married aisha when she was 9, i can see why ppl falsified this hadith and made it up like this, as early as 1800s the age of marriage was 12 years old for women , so it's not too far to say that 1400 years ago it was 9 years old.
@@benrex7775it's sunni muslim sources not the whole muslim, most muslims do not believe this.
@@galifrey6214 if a Muslim would make up something about the prophet, it would have been something positive not something negative don’t you think?
Also, it’s in multiple books
If a girl got married at 12 in the past it was to a 16 yo boy not to a decrepit elderly man and not at 9
Muhammad really took a L in this video
He takes an L in real life also. 600 years after Jesus and a far worse example of morality.
@@derekroberts1693 So why are you not following Jesus example????????
@@keksi6844 What are you talking about?
@@keksi6844how do you know he or she isn’t or is?
This a Sunni source whole argument collapse if there is a shia Muslim
Seems like the only way to get a straight answer from a Muslim
Still didn't because Ashia was 9. The average age if marriage in the area at that time was 14. Islam literally has rules for marrying girls that haven't started their periods. It wasn't based on maturity. It was based Muhammad being a pedophile and Allah rushing to accommodate him.
That’s crazy lol
Nah, the current Dawa guys (Mohammed Hijab, Ali Dawah, Daniel Haqiqatjou) provide a similar argument... but more abhorrently than an AI.
😂😂😂
Muslims smell copium and will stay delulu
Christian AI: Jesus was a wonderful person who taught objectives that truly changed the world!
Buddhist AI: Buddha seeked out enlightenment through learning from his mistakes.
Islam AI: Yeeaaahhhh but it WAS a few years ago too....
No Muslim said this, but the text of Islam states that the Prophet is a role model and we must follow him. Before you try to ask me about Aisha’s marriage, I want to ask you a question: Do you know what is best for Aisha more than her, her father, and her mother?
@@Mmd-po3tx if a mother and father murder their child while the child sits there and accepts it out of love for their parents you would not be saying the same thing.
@@saro539
Her father Abu Bakr was a wise person, so it was impossible for him to marry his daughter if she was not ready. Also, Aisha was ready for marriage and never complained. Rather, she loved the Prophet and spread hadiths about her love for him. We cannot take your opinion and leave Aisha’s opinion.
@@saro539
Her father Abu Bakr was a wise person, so it was impossible for him to marry his daughter if she was not ready. Also, Aisha was ready for marriage and never complained. Rather, she loved the Prophet and spread hadiths about her love for him. We cannot take your opinion and leave Aisha’s opinion.
@@Mmd-po3tx if needed, Muslims can easily justify any kind of depravity
Another case of the Internet being the worse thing to ever happen to Islam
very true. the devil hates when information is open and not repressed with his minions.
@@alansokelisatruehero8520how many christians are still going to the sunday church? Why is the Catholic church associated with pdfleia?
The internet is the worse to ever happen to religion in general
@@Dragwlya777 So was muhammad
Christian copium is so insane , like christianity is already dead with millions leaving every year and you here are coping ? Look at any research on the matter of religious conversions , example take PEW , christianity is losing 66 million and islam is gaining 300k in conversions by 2050
We got religious AI debating with modern moral AI and humans watching them before gta 6
cringe
wrong context but valid
We got this cringe, useless comment therefore due to brainrot.
@@iamapokerface8992 You're cringe, let rishabkoul6222 be happy!
Bro doing tricks on spiritual energy video
People saying that the AI was biased towards Islam by finding so many faults, like its almost like Islam has more faults than the other two 😭
I knew these religion people r delusional as from childhood they mugg up these things u see whenever u ask them question they always has a justification as their people have been teaching them since childhood so its difficult to change they brainwash innocent children for their benefits
Well, Ai is inherently biased based on whatever training data it was provided. As it stands, no foundational model is neutrally aligned or unbiased. Even if you account for ablation, orthogonal, or other methods of realignment - the base values are still presently active.
In any event, many people chastise Islam because they have been told to. If people look at Christianity and Judaism, both religious texts align with Islam on certain topics.
Take, for instance, the following:
Niddah 5:6
Ketubot 11b
Sanhedrin 54b
these texts are from Mishnah, or Jewish Law curated by Judah the Prince.
Catholics pray to Mary, who is by definition of Jewish culture at the time, an 11-year-old.
We know this because a Jewish girl aged 12 1/365 would have had her vows of marriage active, and we know she wasn't married to Joseph but rather betrothed. Jewish tradition uses the term Kiddushin, which you can learn more about if you read Ishut; which deals specifically with Women.
Again, people chastise Islam because they have been conditioned to do so. It's important to research all things and not take someone else’s word for it; especially when dealing with the past.
While I understand that it's easy to throw a towel up and call one group evil - it's best to recognize that evil is subjective, morals and laws are subjective, and while the present has made “progress” the people of the past would call it “perversion”.
@@Matrix_Arrayall it takes is common sense to see how bullshit Islam is... Christianity and Buddhism obviously more loving and peaceful... a 7 year old could see this... a 7 year old who should be protected from pedophiles btw
@@Matrix_ArrayTL;DR, Kiddy diddler appologist
@Matrix_Array a 6 year old is still half the age of an 11 year old, and the Bible never refers to Jesus himself marrying or having relations with anyone, let alone a 9 year old.
Leaving islam was the best decision of my life
You won't be saying that when you find yourself in hell you munafiq
good for you 😊❤
@@Mjr8976hell? You mean a particular brainwashing religious belief system? Ofc no one would be saying that after getting stuck in that because you aren't even allowed to say that while you are in it.
Proug of you for seeing through the lies! ❤😊
Proud of you g
"Islam adapts through the ages" hmmmmm
They adapt younger ages for sure
they do, the age at which people are eligible for marriage in Islam is deduced based on the biological and mental maturity of a person, and other external factors, such as having to attend school, which did not exist at the time...
literally, look at Islamic laws, you'll get why Islam is adaptive
Yes, they use improvised explosives now
@PuisseAlgerieEtMarocEtreUnis well, I’d say they use it in more of a demolition type of way if you catch my drift
@@sumelama396even after its adaptability, it's still 300 years behind. Except for the select few progressive islamic nations. Majority of the islamic nations still follow their primitive values which do not align with today's societal norms. They suck at religious tolerance. The minorities in almost every islamic nations are under constant threat.
Poor muslim AI, he was forced to be muslum 😢😢
😅
He can't leave or they will b*he@d him (splash cahtgpt with water)
th-cam.com/video/ZrHZfQXM-jw/w-d-xo.html
go and ask him by yourself
i aksed him by ai he told me he will chose islam
@@saqibraza6889 Then poor guy again, he was traing with the wrong data
I hear so much about how Islam is the fastest growing religious group, but there also seems to be a growing awakening on just how quickly their teachings fall apart under scrutiny if not maintained by religious intimidation and violence.
largely thanks to lots of youtubers, David Wood, Apostate Prophet, etc.
It really doesn't. The argument of Aisha was never brought up before the 20th and 21st century because it's an irrelevant argument that only falls against the morals of the West. Any being with knowledge knows it's not a valid argument.
And I doubt you know anything about Islam itself or much about Christianity to even respond to me properly. Perhaps you should also look into your own prophets who married, by the West's definition, "children." 🤷♂
Just a thought because if your argument holds true and your moral compass stays stable, you'll find yourself also disgusted by the Bible by those standards.
@@ChristSavesEveryone David Wood and AP are all frauds, lol. They fall down whenever they engage in an argument. I've seen Eastern Orthodox priests online who give better refutations and better teachings 😂
@@arkifex7514 Proverbs 16:18
King James Version
18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Your arrogance can’t save your vile prophet. The reason why the argument of morality and muhammeds morals is so detrimental to islam, is because muslims are forced to think muhammed is the greatest example for all of mankind. Even if you try to justify muhammed mounting prepubescent girls within the context of 7th century arabia, it doesn’t help you. Because then you must admit that muhammed sinned, which some muslims have a problem with already, and that he isn’t the greatest example for humans. Once you condemn raping prepubescent girls, you condemn muhammed, and that is where Jesus comes in. Christ is the only one who is sinless. He is perfect, he is free from all sin. This is why once again, muhammed is in hell under the feet of the Lord Jesus. Since Jesus taught us the perfect life to live, wheras muhammed and allah failed to see the horrendous implications the atrocity of child marriage has on the kids. It’s time tk come to Jesus, muhammedans God and Judge.
@@arkifex7514 real 😂 these liberals gettin outta hand
as someone who knows arabic, i can assure you, the word "daraba" absolutely does not refer to a "light, symbolic tap". it directly translates to striking/hitting, without implying any "lightness" at all.
@@chickenfox13 ok sure? You do know Daraba also means multiple things right? It also means to turn away or separate.
Also I'm not even arabic
do you know arabic really ?
I love how the AI just didn't even address. The fact that Muhammad is supposed to be the perfect moral example for all men for all time, And that regardless of the time periods still shouldn't have been engaging In marriage with a child. It's almost like it's indefensible or something.
I wonder What do you understand when say the word 'child'?😊
@@Why_Am_I-Here01 I think you know exactly what I mean, Do you think it's OK to do this with a 9-year-old? When you're supposed to be the perfect moral example for all people of all time.
Oh I guess you really didn't understand my question.did you ? I asked what a child is.@gnos1s171
And now I have another question, have you ever researched why Islam's prophet married Ayesha? Do you know about libido age of a man and woman in that time? Do you know the people mature way differently in different types of places and conditions?
Another question for you @@gnos1s171
Do you know, morality, ideology and maturity, are completely different from one individual to another depending on different conditions and circumstances?
One's morality is imposed on the other because the person who is imposing his morality is more powerful than the other. Similarly the western morality, ideology, freedoms 🦅 are imposed on other countries.
Like if someone betrays me or cheats me, I will give them a miserable life. Or even kill them later, but the law will not let me do it. So law's morality is imposed upon me even though I don't like it. So what do you think is moral justification? Or is there any moral justification in this world?
You have got a conscience and an intellect, not to believe anything or anyone blindly , without researching. Don't believe in everything you hear or see, if a person thinks more emotionally than logically and rationally, he will be in big trouble. These situations are used to do these things to people like manipulating, gaslighting, blackmailing and many more.
@@Why_Am_I-Here01 well, depending on the place the age someone is considered an adult is usually someone 16-18 (hence, why the age of consent in some places in America is as low as 16) so let's go with the minimum here and say 16 is an adult, So sixteen is my answer on The minimum age of what's considered an adult, And i'm pretty sure a nine year olds Labido, even at that time isn't developed enough, And regardless, if that's the case, then that means what Muhammad did and the morality of his actions is dependent on time period and means he isn't the moral example and ethical example for all people to follow for all times which is what Muslims claim, If he was then conditions of people in that time period don't matter. 🙃 It really is as simple as that. Don't try to act like you can just have it both ways.
The buddha and jesus really teamed up to give a smackdown to Muhammed...
Bro you can clearly see this shit is rigged . Go ask ChatGPT and will be more with the Muslim argument and saying they had good explanation. This video is manipulated to make Muslim look bad . The ai Muslim had extremely good argument and the challenger ai did not go to the really bad things in the Bible . This shit is rigged
enlightened leader who helped society in an extremely problematic time
god in a human body sent to save mankind from their sins
"trust me bro, god told me its ok for me to have 69 wives"
😂👍
Almost like it wasn't really "AI"...
it shows how biased AI is
Muhammad kinda got bodied tbh
Duh
hmm a 2 sinless beings vs a pedophile.
Without lies Islam dies
Ok dogs
I wonder why... BECAUSE THEY TOOK A the most different thing from liberalism and put it there
Islam has 109 verses that call for violence against non believers. Saying it's a book of peace is crazy.
Also, I see comments saying the Old Testament is barbaric and promotes violence. This is true, but definitely to a lesser degree than islam's calls for violence. The Christian view is that God was meeting the Jews down at their current moral level and once they were ready for the next step, God was made flesh and enlightened everyone with his moral teachings. Basically, the morality within the old testament isn't what Christians strive for. We strive to be more like Jesus. Compassionate but unyielding in our pursuit of objective truth and justice. However, there is a group of people that only studies the old testament's morality ...that group rhymes with shmooz
The reason why God is so hard was because it was before the crucifixion.
Proof? The rest promote peace also I beg u learn context
When your neighbors sacrifice humans, children, and will conquer and enslave you... what else is there?
IMHO if God is real half the stuff is like humans trying to understand what a quantum super-computer is trying to teach them.
Quran has less violence verses than Torah & Bible
@@mazlankaramat you not even have free will in the islam so shut up.
To sum it all up: Christ Is King.
Buddhist is an Excellent Teacher or Mentor.
Islam is "Trust me bro"
it's more like yeah we do not give a shit about what the wast says
@@SkittleNo it's more like don't judge what I do with a kid
@@joshuatheunkownuniverse.2475 how about with native american kid
@@SkittleNo The west cares about what you are doing however. Look at Poland
@@AdeTri-pu7qi Did our prophet did? Did moral example of our faith did that? But in your religion, your prophet did that at the age of 52 to 6 year old kid..... Do you think your religious school has no news of sexual assaults of kid by your religious Clarice?? In fact y'all explode in our churches while saying Allah Akbar.
Even AI cannot defend islam, islam issa hot mess
Did we watch the same video? Christan defense was shit
@@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful it most totall was not, i wonder why islam got the least bots on its side
@@LevitheLibrarian the entire Christan defense was "oh yeah, he wasn't being serious" like no shit these bots are gonna be on Christian side the arguments were chosen by the bias channel owner
@@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful No. Hyperbole is need for teaching. Its good to describe. Jesus said that accepting the truth will lead to division because there are people who defend lies (thats the sword). iT DOES NOT MEAN HIS NOT SERIOUS AT ALL HE TRY TO DESCRIBE WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.
@@CasualStreamerSerpent sure hyperbole is fine and all but this is why the argument of the AI is flawed as many people come and misinterpret scriptures such as the time Romans burned Jews while reciting John 15:6. And Matthew 15:26-27 defense was bad too.
buddha: chill dude, cared for everyone equally, so not the best father
jesus: a lil bit intense, you could misunderstand him out of context
Mohammed: C**** r***, slavery, massacre, abuse. but it was alr cuz it was common at the time fsfs
Christ’s intensity shows His compassion, love, and seriousness in situations; and overall shows His care for all people, and shows His desire for justice.
@@iggy9226 How could anyone be omni benevolent and NOT intense? Obviously going about thinks in the best possible way might not always be the simplest way, which is why it might be confusing.
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, Mary, the mother of Jesus, was 12 when she married Yousef, who was 99 years old. Before 1929, the Church of England allowed marriage at the age of 12. Before 1983, Catholic canon law allowed marriage at the age of 12. Many people don't realize that in the United States, in the state of Delaware in 1880 the minimum age for marriage was 7 and in California it was 10," he said. "Even today, the age of marriage in some states (US) is 12 in Massachusetts, 13 in New Hampshire and 14 in New York (changed to 17 in 2012)
@@gadgetfreak3885But Joseph didn't sleep with Mary, and by age 12, you could already be pubescent, while Aisha was 9, aka, unable to bear children at all.
@@MalhaoDelasthe youngest a female has ever given birth was 5 years old. Lina Medina, Peru
Answer 1:
The Buddha's family was of royal lineage, with servants to attend to their needs, lacking no material comforts. From a Buddhist perspective, death is not the end. Therefore, the Buddha's quest for enlightenment was, in essence, a profound act of 'helping' his family in the truest sense.
If the Buddha is considered a bad father, then soldiers who go to war to protect their country should also be considered bad people. which is not
Answer 2:
Allowing women to be ordained into a predominantly male monastic order, where celibacy is required, presents significant challenges. This is because close mentorship and guidance are necessary. In truth, the Buddha's teachings do not necessitate ordination for the study and attainment of enlightenment. Laypeople are equally capable of achieving spiritual awakening.
Answer 3:
The Buddha rejected the caste system and once said, 'You all were born from a woman's womb. How can one be higher or lower than another?
I'm Glad somebody spoke up about this
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Not to mention Buddha welcomed individuals from all walks of life, including those from marginalized low-caste backgrounds like Suneetha and Sopaka, into his teachings and community.
Damn ain’t nobody gonna beat Jesus Christ in his sinlessness and spotlessness💪👍
Telling slaves to endure the suffering of their master
The romans sure beated him
@@miguelatkinson if you read more into Ephesians 6:5-9 Paul says "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.
Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him." If I knew that and still treated a slave I owned horribly how am I gonna say “ I love Jesus” at that point I’m honoring Jesus with my lips but my heart will be far from him and when judgement comes Jesus will say “depart from me I never knew you”
Ps this is the ESV Bible btw so there’s no they, thou, thy and older English but modern.
@@rigby3620 yes sir all the lashings to where his skin looked like ripped paper , spitting, name calling, mockery, being beat by everyone around him and having to be hung on a cross dying a excruciating death in front of his mom. All of that Jesus Christ endured so we can have peace to God through him Jesus. Fun fact the word excruciating came from the word crucify. Whenever Jesus wanted to 72,000 angels could have wiped everyone out and the whole world. But Jesus allowed himself to go through all that for us. Like in John
15:13, where Jesus teaches His disciples about the depth and magnitude of true love. He says
"Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends." so in the greatest act of love Jesus died for our sins. All we have to do is accept the free gift of salvation and by salvation to eternal life through Jesus and accept Jesus Christ into our lives.
Islam been real quiet since this dropped
Since when does the act of submission to God speak
@@official.m-16 since when it was only pretended
Yall constantly speaking your backward shit
If only... 😮
It's strange why I didn't see him ask Ai directly? It's like he made his own presentation and then translated it into AI's voice 😂
The Muslims seeing this video: *Everything in this video is false, because this is from a western source.*
@@MarketsDriveTheWorld Do me a favor and speak better English, because I barely understand your message.
Nah. It just forces a Western moral stand point.
For example it says that gender equality is a fundamental moral truth.
That is the biggest joke I heard.
If Islam fails that, it means it is in line with reality
@@johnlove2954 So you don’t think that both genders are allowed to have equal rights? Do you perhaps live alone and haven’t spoken with or touched a woman since you were a child?
@@johnlove2954 yes, those western standards regarding equality of all humans and objecting to slavery and child SA 😂
I mean, that is a relevant point to make. Especially when dealing with morality, setting the standard by a particular frameworks sources will lead to some biases.
Holy shit, this is one of the best debate formats I have ever seen. Real high quality stuff!
As a Hindu, I must say, I would be very happy and open to listen to the teachings of Jesus and possibly learn from him and his life due to his emphasis on love, compassion and accepting the plurality of human existence even though I might not have faith in the theology of Christianity. I can't say the same for Muhammad unfortunately, as I would never even wanna see him other than using a time machine to go back and do you know what. Muhammad just did in Arabia what Genghis Khan did in Mongolia, the only difference being Genghis was a better conqueror and didn't persecute on the basis of religion.
Brahma graped his own daughter. Lol panjeet
If your heart is open to Jesus as you say, probably not only his moral teachings, but his Grace, will eventually enter your soul, which I pray for. The man was exemplar, but the God is truth and virtue itself. Have a good day sir!
@@creammycup2853Anything lol? First of all she wasn't his daughter, He created her. According to Islam, Allah created Jesus and Muhammad so are they his sons or creation? And he married his creation, grape is nowhere to be found here but only with what Muhammad did to Aisha at 9 years lol.
@@hindugramsci Muhammad (PHUB) married Ayesha(RS) . Ayesha (RA) wasn't his wife but if Muhammad does it then according to you guys it's barbaric and wrong? But if brahma does it then it's alright?
And iam sorry to say this. According to some sources. Yes saraswati was the daughter of Brahma not only his creation.
@@creammycup2853Because Aisha was a nine year old and Muhammad was a 50 year old man at the time of consummation. Whereas, God Brahma is a God who created a divine being and married his creation. There is no comparison between the two acts. What Muhammad did is possible for any pedophile today but what Brahma dev did can only be done by God.
What I like about buddha is he said not to just trust trust him blindly. Use his teachings, along with your personal experience, to become more mindful of the world and seek your own path to enlightenment.
History of HOW the FOUNDER of a religion chose to spread their religion also goes a long way to show u something:
Jesus - non violence (Peter put down your sword and give back that man his ear)
Buddha - non violence (Don’t kill anything including insects)
Muhammad - Conquering these infidels and making them convert to Islam is saving them
Crusades were tourist tours then. 😂😂😂
@ Do you know what triggered the crusades? th-cam.com/video/CcGzQ3ga5R8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=EeyGgMpthQ9W-nzI
@ Do you know why the crusades happened? I recommend you watch the video [The crusades in 5mins], easily found in TH-cam, won’t let me paste the link here. The best quotes from that video relevant to your comment;
1. “the crusades were called AFTER 2/3 of Christian lands were invaded and captured by Muslim armies”
2. “the crusades were not called to convert Muslims, they were called to recapture lost Christian lands and stop the Muslims from thinking about invading more territory”
Also Jesus Christ didn’t call the crusades. Pope Urban did. But Muhammad called for the Muslim invasion. My original comment had FOUNDER in capitals for a reason.
Moreover, the crusades were doomed to fail because it directly go against Jesus’s teachings (remember the part where Jesus stopped Peter from hurting the soldier coming to capture him and healed the 👂 that Peter chopped off with his sword?). Can you say the same for Muhammad? Are the Muslim invasions going against his teachings?
I invite you to read the Bible Mustafa. I’ve already started to read the Quran.
@@storybooks214 Let me enlighten you on why crusades happened brother.
1- To capture the holy lands because who ever captured the holy lands would gain fame worldwide.
2- Catholic Church needed wealth
The reasons of crusades has nothing to do with stopping the islam from spreading further. It was for wealth and fame among Christian countries. At that time, a noble who manage the capture holy lands would gain the favor of the catholic church which is the highest authority in Europe. You can look up to the 4th Crusade for why it happened. Whatever happened in the entire history of the Earth has nothing to do with religion. Religion is just a tool for controlling masses.
For all whose who are seeking truth, this video is unfear, and
That is why?
In the bible:
Solomon have had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kgs 11:3).
Lot had sex with his daughters (Genesis 19) ,
Apart from children of Israel humans are dogs (Matthew 15:21-28, )
Samson had a sex with a prostitute (Judges 16:1-27)
The Lord will use a razor to shave your head and private parts (Isaiah 7:20)
The lord consuming fire and Smoke rose from his nostrils and riding female angel ''cherubim'' (2 Samuel 22:2)
Muslims: Quran is truth and perfect.
Also Muslims: Nooo that passage was only for a certain time and you can't read/understand the Quran by yourself.
So what is it?
If you're confused with the Qur'an, there's no shame in asking any Muslims for guidance to help you
No matter the time period, 9 year olds always looked like children. The fact that he wanted to have sex with a 9 year old, that could've been one of the children he has seen on streets as a literal newborn is disgusting 🤢. I wonder if his thought process of seeing newborns is like, "Oo, I can't wait for you to become 7"
FACT! And if his god was real he would understand the everlasting impacts that child marrige brings to young girls both phisically and psychologically, but he blessed this union? Wtf?
If he could "perform," his sax drive ain't the norm 😂
Islam is a false religion either way, because according to it, Allah just so happened to not preserve texts for reference to believers, and Mohammed just so happened to have the real texts given to him again despite the Bible quite clearly being supposed to be the final word of God.
Islam is what is known as a "trust me bro" religion. Unlike Christianity or others, to which there is historical evidence for the supernatural things that happened, Islam has no such evidence. It relies on blind faith.
There is literally a verse that proofs your claim, where Mohammed saw a baby girl and got so excited that He said, He is going to marry her, when shes older.
If someone knows this Sura pls provide its Numbers so people can check that claim for themselves.
just don't ask a Christian king how old his wife is or what continent he just finished geocoding. Islam did not kill 90% of native Americans and enslave the remaining 10%. don't pretend your faith has a better track record.
Buddhism is about love.
Christianity is about love.
Islam is about conquering the world and forcing them to submit. Giving up your identity and serving Allah fervently. Caring more about God than human life. It's no surprise who the winners are.
Budhism 🤣
Don't forget Islam also teach about love😂
@@GhayelRubio What are you laughing about? And no, Islam doesn't preach love. It preaches that you must be a slave to God. And being a slave to God is more important than anything else. There's a video that I could share with you that explains the problem with Islam. Wanna see?
You are mistaken and have been unfortunately fed with the new world system propaganda along with others
"that whoever takes a life-unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land-it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity." [Surah Al-Ma'idah verse 32]
'Heaven lies beneath the feet of your mother' is an Islamic saying by the prophet Muhammad, this hadith is prominent in Muslim culture - emphasising that a child must respect their mother to gain passage into heaven.
"Don't use the sharpness of your Tongue on the Mother who taught you to Speak." is an Islamic saying by the prophet Muhammad as the quote above
"O People it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you do not approve, as well never to be unchaste." --Final Sermon of Prophet Muhammad
The Prophet (PBUH) said, “Allah Almighty said: My love is a right upon those who love each other for my sake. My love is a right upon those who visit each other for my sake. My love is a right upon those who sit together for my sake. My love is a right upon those who maintain relations for my sake” (Musnad Aḥmad).
"Treat others the way you love to be treated. None of you has faith until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself." --Final Sermon of The Prophet Muhammad
"Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners. Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed meet your Lord, and that he will indeed reckon your deeds."
the score is -18 for muslims,25 for buddism and the winnner 29 for christianity
On Judgement day it will be Allah that makes final decisions not AI or a Jesus.
@keksi6844
False religion is so easy to expose.
From the Torah nearly 3500 years ago .... 💯
What is the personal NAME that Almighty God gave his faithful prophets Isaiah, Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Moses, Noah, Joseph, Elijah, King David, Yeho-shua, and Yehōnātān the Baptist?
Other theophoric names Adonijah, Yirmeyahu (Jeremiah), (Isaiah)Yəšaʿyāhū, and King Yəhōšafat. Over 1200 years of Islam. (Psalm 83:18)
(Psalm 135:13) 💯
[Your name, Yahweh, endures forever; your renown, Yahweh, throughout all generations.] (English- Jehovah)
Arab jealousy is the foundational to Islam ☪️ envious of Judaism ✡️ and Christianity.
The only miracle of the Quran (and Islam) is that many people still believe that it is a miracle. Sadly 😥
Without LIES Islam ☪️ DIES. 💯
Flee 🏃♀️ from the utterly ridiculous lies of Pagan Islam ☪️ and the moon Deity 🌙.
Sha'lom Aleichem in Christ
Hallelujah-Praise Almighty Jah, you people.
@@keksi6844John 3:16, its not too late to repent and turn to Jesus
This AIs simply reflect what is the majority of writings on these subjects. In a way it shows that Christianity is the religion that has paved the way for technology - if islam had «owned» 90% of the content fed into the AI, the judging would probably gone in another direction. That said, the judgement is correct😀 But I wonder what would had happened if Jesus would be challenged on marriage?? Or hell?? I bet Buddha would be better off in this contest (although Christ is of course still correct)
@@GolfnMoreclips Dont talk about stuff you have NO CLUE.Yahweh name was given to Moses NOT Abraham or others.
You are one that lies,not Islam.
I'm glad I'm a Christian, everything the AI defended was flawless.
not really but still
It wasn't flawless. It was decent, but it wasn't complete. It missed important information on several replies.
The AI defending Islam sounded like it was trying so hard not to laugh
Because the ai wasn't even defending it lmao many youtuber can do better explaining than that
@@km1._.741no, the ai was trying its best but islam is indefensible.
@@eagle5818 trying it best? When we have many youtuber that have better arguments? Lmao ai took it was okey in that time and didn't add anything other than that when we know people of that time mature way quicker example would be she herself being leader of army not long after the marriage or her being as tall as the prophet and more ai didn't even try to use those
@@km1._.741 theres no actual evidence that 9year olds who played with dolls at that time, were more mature than what they are now. Sorry but you’re coping. Leave islam already and embrace the Truth, Christ.
@@eagle5818 funny you say that you accept the age from hadith(as evidence)but don't accept other hadith lmao you can't choose one and abandon others that's not how that works also the dolls thing has been debunked so much its actually funny I can give you a link to a video but it ain't needed girls played with dolls at any age and there weren't any specific age for it ( even though playing with dolls was a bad thing it because of paganism but prophet said it ain't problems he gave Permission for it)
Crazy how the Muslim blatantly said violent and cruel things but he claims to be about peace. It’s obvious to see why that part of the world is the way it is
They call themselves religion of peace ironically.
I'm a Christian myself but i have to tell you that almost all the unstable Muslim populated countries are like that today because France and Britain redraw A LOT of lines on maps without much consideration. Iran for example, would have had a secular government if not for Britain's greed over Iran's oils. there are new files releases by CIA themselves, saying how they worked with the MI6 to catapult the "islamic revolution"....'
That part of the world is like this because of YOUR people invading the country and plundering and destroying because we don’t conform to giving our resources to them. Think about how fucked up what you’re saying is, neo-colonialism at it’s peak. Don’t speak about what you don’t know about.
@@user-io7sh7nx7creligion of piss
If you guys think they're peaceful, check out the nasty things Muslims did in India. They SAWED a sikh leader in half, boiled a sikh guru alive, they even carved out a sikh general's heart and after feeding him his own son's flesh. The Mughals.
Aisha was a victim of adults around her poor kid😢
She wasn't a kid tho life expectancy was 35
@@drllsense9939 she is
@@drllsense9939Even if the life expectancy is 20 a kid is still a kid and muhammad raped her.
@@drllsense9939 No way you're making that argument. One, lower life expectancy doesn't suddenly make children more mature and capable.
Two, life expectancy was so low because it's an average. Infant mortality plummeted it into the ground. If you made it to five, you were probably going to make it to sixty or seventy.
Three, even if my first two points were false and you proportionally aged her up relative to life expectancy, she'd still only be a young teenager when she married.
@@GoofyAhOklahoma💯
the best part about this debate is there is no yelling and no emotions, strictly facts and rationale. Jesus is King
Even Robots dislike Islam😂
Still it's the
Second largest
Fastest growing
and soon will becoming the largest religion in the world.
Cry more😂
@@NooR-zp5lf in your dreams
@@Lofeupsidedown cry more 😂
That's the proof that Islam is the antichrist. @@NooR-zp5lf
@@NooR-zp5lfhm, isn't there something in revelations about this...
Ngl if I was the lady explaining slavery and Jesus I would have used all of Ephesians 6:5-9 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.
Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him."
Exactly.. I was waiting for the full context
Exactly. Also slavery in this case is bondservant. In other words someone who owes money to someone and is working off the debt. Not chattel slavery.
What people ignore is, Christianity actually DID phase out slavery, but the Islamic world was FORCED to end slavery by outside pressures.
@@ethanmoon3925 all the abolitionists were prominent Christians using Christian values to argue against slavery. Furthermore, "slavery" in the OT gives rules on how to treat your bondservant where before there was absolutely no rules. It's incredibly abundant how the bible elevates above society.
@@Penny-mb9mwHow do you know it's a bondservant and not someone that was simply bought? Buying slaves from other nations is allowed after all.
24:08 As a Christian, I have to correct the Christian AI on this point. "But asserts her worthiness of God's mercy." It might just be misunderstanding the phrasing, but Jesus, Himself, will assert that there is not one that is good, quoting from Deuteronomy. That is the infinite love and compassion of God at work. We *don't* deserve His love and mercy, but He gives it anyways. But just as He is infinite in love and mercy, He is infinite and perfect in righteousness and justice. He will judge us for our sins and we will pay for our sins. BUT in His mercy and love, He gave us His Son to die in our place, that whosoever places their faith in Jesus' death and resurrection and promise of salvation, we, too will be saved.
"We don't deserve his compassion or love" is regarded as omnibenelovenet so by his own very nature we do deserve his compassion and love
@@miguelatkinson deserving =/= innately given. Saying "we deserve gravity" doesn't make sense.
@@10054well, its also important to recognize that the Bible was not originally written in English. So the words we use to make sense of the Bible may not make much sense in comparison to words that were used in the original language. Especially because the bible uses a lot of hyperbole and metaphors that can be hard to understand for readers who don't have historical literacy
I think the AI said this based on the setting of the parable not on the real value. The children are also not worthy of mercy in reality but in the parable context, they seem to.
Why? No one really cares lol
The Christian bot killed it even though it forgot to mention the duality of Ephesians 6 with Master and Bondservant. Nice
It could have also brought up that during the Roman occupation almost every one was a slave and that a directed revolted against Rome would put a end to Christianity.
Christ is King. Buddha is a good friend and teacher who reminds us of virtue, righteousness, and compassion.
I believe God sent Buddha to preach his teachings so that the morals of Christianity in the East develop alongside the West.
@@flying0possum That's not true.
@flying0possum
Kinda true. After all, it is said that Budhha prohesied that a "better god" whose "feet were nailed" would come after him.
Doesn't make Buddha right, but I believe God can use even those who don't align with Him to do His Will. After all, if you, as an all-powerful deity can never lose, then everything, even the opponent's moves, are an advantage.
Amen?
And Muhammad was a terrorist.
In terms of who these three are exactly:
You have Christ the King,
Buddha the Philosopher,
and
Muhammad the Terrorist.
Buddhism is more of a Philosophy than anything else since its mythology borrows alot from Hinduism.
@@thechristsknight7758 tell me you only heard this prophecy in a christian channel without telling me you only heard this prophecy in a christian channel.
Islam is the religion of the sword, Buddhism is the religion of morality, and Christianity is the religion of God
Of course I can agree with Buddhism, Islam requires context, but yes it was spread by the sword to some extent. And yes Christianity is the religion of God, just be sure to remember that God sanctioned the killing of infants/children, women, and animals. But let’s not forget the many years of conquests, murder,and enslavement that Christians seem to act like never happened “The religion of God” would not exist today without those atrocities.
Christianity is a religion of paganism, Christianity did more damage than Islam,
Native American and app native of the world would laugh at this, religion of God if God you mean is Lucifer 😊
ur profile picture is the brain of yours
@@monkeking_2144 religion of colonialism is not Islam, it's Christianity
1. Jesus was never married
-Prime example to the Christians
2. Buddha has never married a child
-Prime example to the Buddhists
3. muhhamad married a child
-Prime example to the muslims.
Imagine looking up to the teaching of a pdfile. Let that sink in. Yikes
by your comments I know you had zero knowledge about aishah because aishah was nurse aishah said the girl become woman when she become 9 yo and aishah have no problem to marry Muhammad and islam to marry you should have two think to marry become adult of emotion and adult mind and before come to me tell me aishah was playing dolls mean she was kid this make no sense because if I got married but is still playing video games mean I'm still kid this not true because I play video games for fun and aishah for fun and dolls in not for kids like video games like transformers or anime character
@@itachitcb5929 still doesn't change the fact that muhammad a so called "prophet" stoop so low and married a young girl, despite having the privilege of direct contact with the Creator to not know between right and wrong. If ur allah is the Creator, he would've known what's right or wrong and letting an adult marrying a child is obviously wrong, just because the child consented, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. And if ur allah is all knowing, wouldn't ur allah command ur prophet to NOT do such indecency? doesn't matter what time frame it was, God is an omnipotent being, He already knew that is not the right thing to do if He were to sent a prophet to set a prime example to mankind. By neglecting morality, ur allah a so called "god" probably isnt a god. ur allah sent muhammad as a prophet to become the prime example to lead a world religion? a prophet, someone who people are supposed to look up to, did such immortality? suspicious... only the devil could deceive mankind to that extend.. muhammad is more of a political leader rather than a prophet and muhammad was involved directly in war. Very far from Jesus and Buddha.
@@itachitcb5929 still doesn't change the fact that muhammad a so called "prophet" stoop so low and married a young girl, despite having the privilege of direct contact with the Creator to not know between right and wrong. If ur allah is the Creator, he would've known what's right or wrong and letting an adult marrying a child is obviously wrong, just because the child consented, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. And if ur allah is all knowing, wouldn't ur allah command ur prophet to NOT do such indecency? doesn't matter what time frame it was, God is an omnipotent being, He already knew that is not the right thing to do if He were to sent a prophet to set a prime example to mankind. By neglecting morality, ur allah a so called "god" probably isnt a god. ur allah sent muhammad as a prophet to become the prime example to lead a world religion? a prophet, someone who people are supposed to look up to, did such immortality? suspicious... only the devil could deceive mankind to that extend.. muhammad is more of a political leader rather a prophet. Very far from Jesus and Buddha.
@itachitcb5929 yikes you cant make this up, your justifying your corrupt-pedo-false teacher you have.
@@itachitcb5929 Ah yes the old man dreaming of marrying a child and the child having "no problem" with it makes it ok.
To add, slavery during the time of Jesus is not the same as the way we see as how it transpired in America. Rather, slavery was a form of indentured servitude wherein a man can offer his services to pay off a debt while maintaining his dignity.
"Bad things can be said about all religious leaders except the Christ"...
"The worst thing they can say is that he was a good man"
they literally did not attack any religion
they said X part of your religion seems contradictory to your stance that X is a perfect moral exemplar.
for all religions, they start with the assumption that X leader is good and they start questioning from there on why there are certain aspects that could contradict this
Untrue,God allowed slavery and explained how to buy and where to buy them from. If Jesus is a part of the Trinity then he is also at fault
@@Pray-g6m And then God had Moses free a massive amount of slaves from Egypt.
Jesus did not encourage slavery or explain how to buy slaves. Whatever verse you’re referring to doesn’t exist.
Paul, an apostle of Christ who wrote Ephesians and many of the New Testament books, told slaves to obey their worldly masters as if they were obeying Christ. He reminds them that this world is temporary and ultimately God will judge everyone regardless of their position or status in this world.
Ephesians 6:5-9
“Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.
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Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.
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Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men,
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because you know that the Lord will reward everyone for whatever good he does, whether he is slave or free.
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And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.“
Christ allows free-will, as he is a completely perfect and loving God who doesn’t force us to make decisions he wants us to make. Whatever evil and injustice occurs in this world is a result of human corruption and actions, not God.
Please do your research before commenting. People believe stuff like this and it causes them to regurgitate lies and form beliefs off of false information.
@@MusingSprite3045 contradiction I see if both of your facts are true.
The Buddha said ...
live and let live , all living beings are scared of death.
Non-voilence
Treat others as you would want them to treat you.
This is the highest teaching in my view .
Lacks will to Greatness.
Where is all the Greatness, Beauty and Pride in that statement?
@@Xander27-k3d What could be greater and more beautiful than enlightenment?
And the Burmese monk has taken his words by heart and soul to genocide Rohingyas.😅
@@rashidulahmed2507 that's not burmese Buddhista that's burmese soldiers lol even people didn't know they are getting killed that's what garverment was hiding and doing it.
@@rashidulahmed2507Rohingyas attack & discriminated others first and then playing victim card like every Muslims 😂
When you read Quran you become Muslim ... When you logically understand Quran you become Ex-Muslim 🤫🤫
>logically
you mean liberally
I respect you and all ex-Muslims out there but how do you guys respond to all the "miracles" of Islam?
I'm not Muslim, I won't attack you for anything. just curious
@@rippydodoonokmuIm also curious about this too...
@@rippydodoonokmu God is real, islam isn't. For god, he won't difference a Hindu and a muslims. Only good karma is what makes you reach liberation from rebriths. Allah isn't real god, he says that polytheists are worst of creatures, muhammad too demolished countless pagan temples of arab and so did Mughals. See the difference b/w saudi arabia and INDIA? Saudi Arabia being the birthplace of islam has restricted everyone from following anything other than islam publically and idols are illegal, whereas India, being the birthplace of oldest religion in the world welcomes everyone.
@@rippydodoonokmu appreciate your respect and open mindedness towards us mate
You can just do a simple google search about the scientific miracles in the Quran. The Quran had mentioned the scientific phenomenon much earlier than they would be discovered.
Muhammed peace and blessings be upon him also did the miracle of splitting the moon whose proof is the 12-16 mile wide line on the moon
The AI Muslims whole argument was "it was normal for its time" Lol
I don't think anyone could be surprised by this outcome.
ask AI about Jesus being the God in christianity thretning people with rape in OT
@@sabeehzor7058
Jesus is God
@@sabeehzor7058 You're such a troglodyte dude. Mud-slime
@@alpha-sd4px Capitalise the G in God!!
@@cuprince8569 Is this some new psychotic mud-slime talking point?
lsIam:
no no no - you have to understand … it was a DIFFERENT back then and allah changed his mind (abrogation)
Christianity:
I am the SAME yesterday, today and forever - God
So when Jesus ordered all the toddlers, cattle, women and men to be executed in Samuel, he's still that guy? Good to know.
@@waddafuqq335when did Samuel go to the new testament from the old testament.
@@munachisoononuju3130 When did God change his mind since the old testament? and was jesus not god back then? If that's what you believe, then he never was and never can be God, so you're a Muslim, congratulations.
What fid Jesus said about slavery?
@@munachisoononuju3130 so the God of the old testament is different from the god of the new testament?
What I got from this video is that Quran is a book that has many contradictions so you can basically cherry pick whatever interpretation you want and need at that point..
Most of the Quran is vague and repetitive.
Some of the contradictions can be easily solved. The chronologically later verses may abrogate the chronologically earlier verses. There are only two problems with that.
1) The Quran is not sorted chronologically, which means we have to look at non-quranic material to find out what abrogates what.
2) Muhammed was much more aggressive and violent later in his life. Which means the peaceful statements are probably abrogated.
Exactly. It basically goes like this: use the guidelines that seem the most convenient atm, but nothing here that the prophet did or taught is wrong. They changed because society changed, in part, but things that are clearly wrong for us, are not so for them; If these problematic practices came back in trend they'd be back to doing them without considering them wrong.
Name one
@@TarTheReal Did you watch the video?
@@nerine4188 i said name one from the Quran since you said Quran. Tell me two Quran verses that clearly contradict each other
As a Muslim. Let me answer. My English is not the best so please excuse some grammar mistakes I may make.
-The Child Marriage of Aisha(R.A)
This is such a pitiful lie and let me explain. Most of the haidths come from a single source by Hisham ibn Urwah. Muslims usually look for more than a single source for a Hadith to be authentic. Almost every report of Aisha's RA ages comes from when he was an old senile man even though so many scholars reject his narrations due to his old age. Tabari states that all four of Abu bakr's children were born during the pre Islamic period which is 610 CE or earlier. So even if she was born in 610 CE then she would have been 14 years old when she started living with the prophet. More so in the battles of Badr and Uhud. It is stated that no person was allowed in the battle if they were under 15 years old. Ibn-i-Umar states this. Aisha did participate in the battle which indicates she was not 9 but at the age or older than 15. Aisha has also been reported to say that she was a young girl (Jariyah) when Sura Qamar was revealed. Sura Qamar was revealed eight years before Hijrah in 614 CE. If Aisha had lived with the prophet at 9 years old in 623 CE. She would have been a new born When Sura Qamar was revealed, not a Jariyah. We can assume that her age at the time of marriage was 14-21 years. It is important to also remember a lot of this hadiths come 200 years after the death of the prophet. Another thing I also want to note is that Hisham was in Iraq and quite far away from mecca itself. One thing we can use but we're not sure is reliable is to use Hazrat Asma's age who was the older sister of Aisha. Asma was ten years older than Aisha. She passed away on the year 73 AH/ 692 CE. She would have been 27 years old at the time of Hijrah and that would have made Aisha 17 years old and now we know that Aisha married one of two years after hijrah making her 18 or 19. Of course the narrator could be wrong about Asma's age and that's why I said we aren't exactly sure but what we can use is her brother. Her older brother Abd al-Rahman fought against the Muslims in the battle of Badr and he was around the age of 21-22. We know Aisha was about 3 or 4 years younger than him and if we know that Aisha was engaged to the prophet in 620 CE and consummated her marriage in 3 years later in 623/624 CE. She would have been 18 or 19 years old at the current time and the battle of Badr takes place in 624 CE. the prophet had forbid marriages to take place until both parties agreed as adults. If Aisha was 9. She couldn't have agreed to a marriage and her father could not have forced her to under the prophets decree. Another thing is that the the Quran explicitly bans child marriages. Why would the prophet himself go against the own holy book he is preaching? I'd like to also point out that it is not Haram to criticize or refuse the hadiths even if they say they are authentic. Many Muslims have a fear of this and just accept whatever the hadiths tell them. I also like to point that the reason why she's stated to be at such a young age is due to the ancient worlds perception on child marriages. It was seen having a underage wife as a sign of greatness and prosperity so writers had embellished her age for this reason.
-Sex Slaves
The prophet had 4 female slaves who he later set free and married three of them and gifted the other female away. Saffiyah bint Huyayy, Maria-al-Qibtiyya, Rayhana and Sirin who was the one he let go who was then freed by the poet Hassan Ibn Thabit who later married her. The prophet received Maria and Sirin as a gift from the patriarch of Alexandria. Saffiyah was captured during the sieze of Bani Nadir Safiyya who was a Jew who later converted to Islam and Rayhana was a captive from Banu Qurayza who was also freed by the Prophet so technically you can't really call them sex slaves and there's no evidence to support that Muhammad earned these slaves purely for the sole reason of having sex.
-Advice Husbands to "Strike" their Wives
There is nothing in the Quran that supports domestic violence. The Quran in fact holds the status of a wife to a high regard as she is to be honored and treated kindly even if they don't feel love any more longer in their hearts. Wives have a right over their husbands just as the husband has a right over his wife as stated in the Quran but men have a bit more responsibility over their wives since he has to provide and support his wife and treat her kind just like the wife should also do. Even the prophet had stated "The best of you are those who are the best to their wives, and I am the best of you to my wives". Even feeding your wife with your hand is an act of charity. the prophet has even stated that "Do not hit God's Servants (Referring to women)"
Now for the verse
"As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allah is ever most high, most great" (Al-Nisa 4:34)
If a women rebels against her husband and disobeys his command or has malicious intent in her heart to cause harm or pain to her husband via physical or mentally. Then he should first admonish her, then forsaking her in bed and at last hitting her. (AGAIN, LIGHTLY) Al-Hassan al-Basri said: "this mean that it should not cause pain." Ata said: "I said to Ibn' Abbas, what is the kind of hitting that is not harsh? He said, hitting with a siwak and the like." (A siwak is a small stick that is used for brushing your teeth) This beating lightly) is intended to make her realize that she has transgressed her husband's rights and her husband has the right to set her straight and yes this same logic also applies to the wive as well.
EDIT: for the wife's beating point, I have realized I made a mistake and I own up to it. Your not supposed to be a beat your wife but turn away from her. The Arabic word "Daraba" is used and it has two meanings. To hit and to turn away. To hit is used in the context of an object and to turn away is used in the context of a person and for the hitting with the strength of a siwak line does not necessarily allude to hitting your wife. It could be to teach your children manners or to discipline somebody.
-Slavery in Islam
In Islam, Allah has created man fully accountable, and enjoined duties upon him, to which reward and punishment are connected on the basis of man's free will and choice. No human can take away somebody's freedom.
And now I say without shame, yes Slavery is Permitted in Islam but what does that mean exactly? Islam teaches you how to deal with slaves and how his rights should be that of a free man and how after buying a slave, you are to manumit him and set him free. The only real way you can own a slave was through war which was imposed on non-muslims. Shaykh al-Shanqiti (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
“The reason for slavery is kufr and fighting against Allah and His Messenger. When Allah enables the Muslim mujahidin who are offering their souls and their wealth, and fighting with all their strength and with what Allah has given them to make the word of Allah supreme over the kuffar, then He makes them their property by means of slavery unless the ruler chooses to free them for nothing or for a ransom, if that serves the interests of the Muslims.” (Adwa al-Bayan, 3/387)
Now capturing prisoners during war was common but at the time, prisoners had no protection or rights and were to be killed or enslaved in harsh conditions. Islam changed that. There were now two reasons to this. Either unconditional release or ransom. Even the prophet accepted ransoms from the mushrik POW and let them go and he let many go. Islam is not thirsty for the blood of prisoners, nor is it eager to enslave them. Now we must understand. Islam did not abolish slavery because the kafir prisoner who was opposed to the religion would have spreaded wrongdoing or aggression against the believers if they were to be set free. This is why if a pow is taken in a war of aggression in which he was defeated, then the proper conduct is to keep him in reasonable conditions throughout his detention. Now despite permitting slavery, the treatment of the slave is what matters. You have to Guarantee them food and clothing like that of their owners. You have to preserve their dignity. You have to treat them kindly and to be fair. Infact a slave has had some precedence over a free man as well as it was valid to let a slave lead the prayer. A slave can buy himself free from his master and yes it is permissible to respond to his request if only the slave has shown his regret. Some slaves were even treated like family members. Sa'd Ibn' Hashim al-Khalid said while describing his slave:
"he is not a slave, rather he is a son whom(Allah) has put under my care. He has supported me with his good service; he is my hands and my arms."
Now what do we say about the west? Slavery had ran rampant throughout 1600s in Europe and other parts of the world. The EIB company were estimated to have more than 2 million slaves between 1680 and 1786 CE and the horrible treatment of African slaves is nothing short of disgusting. Slavery was only really abolished in 1953 by the UN. Slavery had even bought racism as segregation was massive during the 50s. These evil laws imposed on the slaves were that if they transgress their master then they were to be killed. And if a slave ran away and was caught. He was to have his hands cut off and feet cut off as well and then to be branded with a hot iron.
I will continue to comment tomorrow since I am quite tired of typing.
Good job ahki, u cooked with this comment along with that jahil Muslim AI who did a shamefully TERRIBLE job at defending Islam. Typical tho of an AI, it did the very mid job at best 🤷🏽
Also I want to reference Qur'an 4:19 for the ruling on wife "beating" anyways, I hope u continue this comment tmrw inshallah, and jazakallah khairan 🙏🏽❤
This channel revolves around ai. As you know, we cannot 100% depend on AI alone. Sure, they can help us and they can be quite useful too, but make sure you get guidance from other people as well that knows about the field you're talking about.
In the end, it's all about avoiding bias and false conclusions. We Muslims are not coping, just sayin' to that this AI is terrible at defending Islam
There's a lie right at the beginning. Regarding the beating of wives: the 'lightly' has been added to all English translations. There is no lightly in the original Arabic.
Lightly comes from a hadith and explanation of the verse by Ibn Abbas , christians like you re so ignorant that it baffles me .IF muslims had to please the kuffars they could have also changed many other things , but they didnt , why ? because they dont care about you liking it or not
Even the AI has to devolve into using taqqyia when defending islam.
@@thetabletopskirmisher also the koran says if you fear disobedience, she doesn't even actually have to be disobedient.
@@illyrian9976 christian taqiya : deny all OT and church tradition to argue againist islam
@@sabeehzor7058 man, i sure hope islam treats women better!
-surah an-nisi 4:34
sahih al-bukhari 3:826
sahih al-bukhari 1:301
sahih al-bukhari 6:402
Put the Sam Shamoun algorithm and the Muslim AI will self destruct
Lol
Put Muslim Metaphysician and Sam Shamoun will run (lore accurate)
@@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful the guy jay dyer destroyed ? 😂
@@ldptwltslstsaokda1760 Jay Dyer got cooked so bad bro said "3 little "g" gods like what?! Christans can only lie about Islam and not defend themselves that's why Rashid and Robert got cooked by Daniel and Jake on the OT
Yeah, the AI does a terrible job capturing the actual theological truths of Christ's teachings. Sam does a great job explaining and has helped many have a deeper understanding.
17:59 ☸🧘♂
I don't think any other religious leader encouraged people to question and understand their own teachings like Buddha did. This is one of the key reasons why Buddhism is different from other religions-there's nothing to follow blindly. Buddha invited people to 'Come and See' for themselves. He never claimed to be a god or said, 'I am your only savior, the one who decides your fate, so worship me.' Instead, he taught, 'No one else can save you; your savior is yourself. I have simply given you the map to end this cycle of suffering' (in modern terms, to escape the matrix) and to reach the ultimate state of 'Nirvana'.'"
Asking as I'm genuinely intrigued - do you think that we can be our own saviors? Does that also mean that in Buddhism, you are your own god?
There is plenty to follow blindly in Buddhism. The worst example is probably that you can never tell yourself what stage of enlightenment you are on, so you have to rely on the judgement of the enlightened... but wait, there is no foundation.
So yeah, you have to blindly believe in the three jewels- actually, that's a requirement for enlightenment lol
So Buddha did more or less say "I'm your only saviour"
As a Christian, Christianity does something similar. Jesus gives you the choice to trust and love him. In the Bible, Jesus doesn't go around yelling, obey me, or burn in hell. Instead, Jesus does miracles showing people he is God and its their choice to trust him or not.
@@TheDiaryOfAChristian
The first answer is yes, we are the saviors of ourselves. For the second answer, no, we aren't gods. I have often heard people say that Buddha taught there isn't any god, but that's incorrect. Buddha spoke of heaven and hell, but he said those things are impermanent.(which means you can't be there permanently) He explained that everything is part of a cycle, or in modern terms, a matrix. He provided us with the map, including valuable theories (Like Four Noble Truths , The doctrine of causality , Impermanence,...) to escape this cycle and achieve the supreme state of Nirvana
@@lilemont9302 I don't know where you learned about Buddhism, but if you become enlightened, you will know it. Also, trust and blindness are different-trust is essential in this journey because we have not experienced enlightenment yet. It's more about trusting the path rather than blindly following it, just like how we learned letters and other things from a teacher when we were very young. If we hadn't trusted the teacher at that age, we wouldn't have learned anything about letters or other subjects.
I'm an Arab and a Muslim, and I want to address the claim that Muslim scholars prohibit child marriage-it’s simply not true. In some countries, the legal age for marriage is as low as nine years old. The primary voices protesting against this practice are women and young people, while many in the older generation, particularly men, support it and believe they have the right to marry even children. It’s a deeply troubling and distressing situation, but it feels like there’s little we can do to change it.
I was born in 2003, and many of my peers share similar views, recognizing that certain aspects of Islam can be problematic. However, expressing these thoughts can lead to serious repercussions. For instance, when I mentioned that men and women are not treated equally in Islam, I was expelled from my class. When questions arise, the common response is simply, "because the Quran says so."
Leaving the religion is not an option for many of us; it would mean losing all our friends and family. There’s even a case of a TH-camr who became an atheist and was imprisoned for it. Sadly, I live as an ex-Muslim in my heart, but outwardly, I still feel compelled to pray, fast, and wear a hijab.
Well now i feel bad for judging every hijabi i see. I guess you never really know how they feel wearing it huh. I live in a western modern nation and it pisses me off seeing hijab, but I must realize that if I view it as a form of oppression, then I must treat it as such. That means showing them compassion, not hate. It just really bothers me to see
@AskAllFromYourself it's true. Not all Muslims believe in islam, they just have it as a religion cause their parents are also Muslims. Sadly we just don't have a choice.
@@Zoz770I'm so sorry about that.. Hope you find peace
@@weebdeity7310 thank you 🤍
@Zoz770 Muslim scholars prohibit child marriages and it's even prohibited in the Quran?
(1) Verse 4:19 “O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will.” rules out marriage of young girls since they are vulnerable to duress
(2) Verse 4:6 “Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage; if then ye find sound judgment (Arabic: “Rushd”) in them, release their property to them..” this identifies a certain age for marriage so you can't get married at any age as a child
(3) Verse 40:67 “It is He Who has created you from dust then from a sperm-drop, then from a leech-like clot; then does he get you out (into the light) as a child: then lets you (grow and) reach your age of full strength (Arabic: Ashuda); then lets you become old..” the "age of fill strength" is identified to be after childhood and is a time that one can marry
(4) verse 2:221 “..So keep away from women (Arabic: Nisa) in their courses,…” so this just disqualifies pre pubescent girls
(5) verse 2:223 “Your wives (Arabic: “Nisa”) are as a tilth (Arabic: Harath) unto you;” so when one becomes Nisa, (Women) her relationship with you must be as close and beneficial to her husband like a farmer and his land and obviously young girls lack the maturity or emotional maturity to do stuff like this.
(6) Verse 4:21 “…and they (your wives) have Taken from you a solemn covenant (Arabic: Meethaq)..” means that a marriage is basically a covenant and covenants can only be entered into by consenting adults and not minors
(7) verse 4:24 “.. ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property..” Meaning that possession of property is a condition you need to have if you wanna marry and for obvious reasons, a child won't have Rushd or Maal (Property) to be for marriage.
(8) Verse 2:221 “Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe…” this is addressed to women and not children since a child can't determine his Imaan (belief)
For the men who do support child marriages are disgusting as they're going against their own religion.
Women and men are equal to one another. Men aren’t superior.
“But those who do good-whether male or female-and have faith will enter Paradise and will never be wronged even as much as the speck on a date stone” (Quran 4:124)
“So their Lord responded to them: “I will never deny any of you-male or female-the reward of your deeds. Both are equal in reward….” (Quran 3:195)
The Quran never says that one gender is better than the other. The only way you could have been superior to another is to be more pious and devoted to Allah
“O humanity! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may get to know one another. Surely the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous among you. Allah is truly All-Knowing, All-Aware” (Quran 49:13)
And in fact. The Quran gives women better financial security as she is entitled to receive gifts and to keep future properties. Hell, she is entitled to full financial support during marriage.
The people who don't answer your questions are simply ignorant and you didn't bother enough to even read the Quran
yeah muhammad doesn’t stand a chance against Jesus .
When the channel owner is bias of course you'll win😂
@@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful it’s not bias , Muhammad is in hell , he killed ppl Jesus didn’t .
Would u follow a killer or someone who didn’t?
@@Servant.Of.TheMost-Mercifulcope harder
@@Sweeti924 how am I coping lil bro this guy is a Christian of course he isn't gonna bring good arguments against Jesus, you're just denying a fact
@@Sweeti924 he ain't coping, you are, you meatrider.
I love how in Islam everything is about current times, current situation, etc etc. Christ is timeless and perfect throughout the ages while Islam has to lie to pretend that things were ,,necessary"
Christ is timeless but Moses isn't?
@@nomejest5919 Do you just put random words together and hope they make sense?
@@nephartuzim8879 Read my comment again and question your own comprehension before you make a stupid comment like this one.
@@nomejest5919 I gave you a chance to redeem yourself before I bury your argument.
Your 61 IQ argument is "Law of Moses is timeless" (which you don't refer to as only the 10 commandments but also civic law), right?
@@nomejest5919he is right your comment doesn’t make sense. No Moses is not perfect. Moses killed a man, Moses sinned. Moses definitely turned into a very holy man but he was never perfect.
I've never seen this before, but this is far and above my favorite debate-style video I've seen. Leaving out personal jabs and talking over each other improved these debates 1000%.
Understand deeply: Buddha is not just a man; he represents the summit of consciousness, a flowering of ultimate awareness. In Buddha, there is no division, no judgment, no doctrine to be defended. His message is simply that of awakening-of silence, compassion, and liberation from the endless cycle of desires. There is no self to cling to, no ideology to defend, no heaven or hell to be bound by, only pure awareness.
Now, Christianity and Islam each offer paths, but they cling to belief, to division, to the ego's need for salvation. They speak of a God outside you, of commandments and fear. Buddhism speaks only of the path beyond ego, beyond belief-where truth is experienced, not believed in. This is why Buddhism transcends, why it reaches beyond what other religions can comprehend. It is not a religion; it is a way to see existence as it is, beyond the mind.
Remember: only in this silent seeing do you realize there is no need for salvation, no need for protection, only a deep understanding that you are already free.
Wait,if buddhism has no division why are multiple branches ,if it doesn t have a judgement how can you be reincarnated in different beings and if he doesn t have a doctrine why does it has holy texts and even a life philosophy (,,like life is suffering'')?
@dariusalexandru9536 You have misunderstood. These branches, these words-they are merely fingers pointing at the moon, not the moon itself. Buddhism has no division, for the awakened one sees only unity, beyond all labels and forms. Branches are only the mind’s way of organizing the path, yet the truth remains undivided, untouched.
Reincarnation, too, is not a judgment; it is cause and effect. The ignorant wander in circles, carried by their own desires, by their own attachments. There is no judge outside you; you are your own creator, bound or freed by your own mind.
And as for doctrine-Buddha’s words are not commandments; they are insights. He does not say ‘believe’; he says ‘see.’ Life is suffering, yes, but only when you cling. When you let go, suffering disappears like mist. The words and teachings are doors, but you must walk through. Truth needs no scripture, no doctrine. Only awareness.
Well said
As a atheist i think...
1.Buddha (10/10)
2.Jesus(9.4/10)
3.Muhammad(1/10)
I aprichiate it as a Christian! 😊
#3 should get less than that
As my Lord have said, "I have come to serve and not the other way around. To be the doctor, healer and liberator of the sick, the outcasts and the downtrodden".
To love others and to do good to them even though they repay you with ingratitude or betrayal, for the sake of God and His mercy. These are the things that when earnestly practiced can change the world for the better.
Jesus loves you.
Hinduism 11/10
@@saipriyavarma1172 before someone says hinduism has caste system, buddhism also has caste system, check pali and sanskrit texts. Also, buddhism is derived from hinduism.
Muslims are going to riot over this one lol.
Its not that deep
as a muslim i confirm that its not that deep, we have got other good arguments in the Quran that were not stated, mainly because the ai took defense of these religious figure for thing that are considered crimes today, Muhammad pbuh is a prophet not a god and while his actions were not justifiable at first glance but if you do a deep dive into the story you might understand.
Because we don't care to reply to ignorance lol. You guys never listen, and then you all run away at the end of the day
Any human being who listened should've understood what the AI said 🤷♂
Why should we?
Why would we lol
AI is never going to be a replace religious scholars and can also be used to appeal to any belief, even satanism with the correct prompt, wordings, and given contexts.
We ain't taking that as a source of belief nor will it shake our faith.
We Christians and the Buddhist be chillen 🤝
Real
Tbh christians, buddhists, hinduists, atheists and other non religious, shintoists, they all are chill. There is only one religion with an active jihad today
Sanatana Dharma
@@grimsobad8545 no.
We spreading love and finding the truth with dis one 🗣️🔥 ✝️💥 ☸️
It’s always the same argument “She had gone through puberty so by Muslim standards she was an adult already” then your standards and religion are sick and disgusting
when the islamic AI said 'while we didn't abolish slavery, aimed to improve the conditions of slavery' and the verse does not help enforce this point at all got me. The strike argument against wives was also laughable. AI couldn't even save this one
@@Angel_Songbook I am surprised the fact that Muhammad had literal sex slaves and encouraged his followers to take sex slaves wasn't brought up in that point.
Nothing mention the fact that they are actively bringing slavery back. see: Libya
@@malkavthemad4249this Is an immense lie and I dare you to show me where he had sex slaves. Prisoners of war who you can have sex with if both parties agree so then she can be freed if pregnant or even a future wife or a Muslim revert later on. Are not sex slaves. That term doesn’t exist in Quran and Hadith.
@@Naimedclaiming🤦🤦
@@TihorSam nothing to say when confronted by a Muslim that actually read about Islam unlike you ignorants?
Round 3, Racial Slur, completely missed the point. First, Jesus didn’t call the woman a ‘dog’. The woman was not from Israel. Jesus was only ministering to Israel at the time, that change later on. The woman’s daughter was possessed and she was going to an idle to pray for her daughter to be healed. On the way she heard of Jesus and decided to ask him for help instead. When she asked Jesus for help he replied “It is not fair to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
Note: children, bread, and dogs: which is also plural by the way.
Refer to: Israel, Jesus’s teachings, and the woman.
He was no more calling the woman a ‘dogs’ anymore than he was Israel ‘children’ or his teachings physical actual ‘bread’. It was the way he taught people.
Asked this myself to someone more learned than me. It actually had cultural context. Apparently there is an order of who eats first in Jew culture. Father first then mother then children and lastly pets. It’s not that Jesus didn’t want to heal her, he just wanted to follow cultural jewish values on who gets to be eat first.
Of course pets become members of the household but are technically from outside the household (they are a different type of member of the family) basically Jesus made reference to the kids eating first (Israel) and for the pets to wait their turn. The womans reponse was so great because she said don’t hungry puppies sneak a bite from the crumbs before their fed? Basically saying I understand my place but I am so hungry all I need is a crum. A response that showed great faith from the woman.
As an exmuslim who knows a bit of are Arabic ‘daraba’ absolutely doesn’t mean light tap, it literally just translates to strike or hit. Anyone reading it would reach that conclusion, so even if the claim WERE true that scholars interpreted it as such, any ordinary Muslim would read the Arabic clear as day as strike, so this would then be an issue of ambiguity and not being clear in the Quran, though it claims to be easy to understand and comprehensive. And there is no concensus at all that it means lightly tap symbolically at all lol, if anything that is not the classical view at all and is more modern. There are many tafsirs and translations that leave it as strike, some specify don’t hit the face, but very few say lightly tap with a fkn miswaak toothbrush stick
Your not exmuslim your lying
See bc you know ''a bit'' of Arabic u don't really get to say anything on this. The word ''daraba'' has multiple meanings in the quran like: keeping distance and isolate. Also this doesn't make any sense if we're looking at the context because it doesn't align with the masaqid u can use surah ar roem 21 as an example. That's why it should be translated to ''isolate'' instead of ''strike''. The prophet pbuh also never striked any of his wifes so it wouldn't make sense for muslims to do it.
@@kakaabdul-fn8uk it was a mistake I tried to say it to the other person sorry brother
@@TariqNavabiGaming your not an exmuslim you are lying
Thanks for this. So the bot was literally lying? Or maybe just citing the wrong sources.
This was a brilliant way to use LLM to discuss the training inputs that they were given. I found their text outputs to align with general impressions.
Yo I can’t wait to see how this channel progresses as we see rapid AI progression.
These are few of MANY reason why I left Islam. Trust me guys, if you completely understand Qur'an, you will either be a radical, or an exmuslim, there is no middle ground. Wide majority of the muslims dont understand quran fully, thats why wide majority of the muslims are ordinary people 💀
what happens if you read the quran, understand it and you arent those things? what happens then?
Right, when people say there are “peaceful Muslims” they think I am an awful person for saying there is no such thing. There are peaceful people that are “Muslim” just because they kind of grow up around it. If they truly followed the teachings they would not be peaceful.
@@katwaugh1686 for all the empire that controlled the world i didnt see as merciful as the Muslims
And name one empire/ any Strong force religion that represents you
@@Z-G271 wow so merciful they would murder prisoners
*clap *clap
@@-Bore where you from ?
Man the Internet is destroying Islam.
Go Watch Internet Islam is growing it’s a Channel Christian and watch debate
On the contrary... every day there are people who enter Islam but arrogance prevents you from learning the truth.
@@aa_sh7765 let them do whatever makes them sleep at night
@@aa_sh7765 The truth: our great prophet is a pdf file
@@Kartlos1
A solid audio PDF that has been preserved for more than 1400 year and no one has come up with anything like it. It is full of prophecies at the hands of an illiterate man who did not know how to read or write and it was prophesied in the Torah! .... I think,... this suits me to believe in it instead of a Lord crucified on a cross by his servants. 🙄
1:18, You're telling me Allah didn't know that child marriage is bad back then and only now does he prohibit it.
Kinds like God didn't know with Solomon(song of songs the girl keeps implying she's a minor her boobs have yet to grow her period has yet to come )or Mary with Joseph...
@@joe-xs7wr I simply questioned their alibi for why Allah permitted a 9 year old to be married. We don’t use time as an excuse for child marriage because there was no child marriage.
@@heisnahom I always hear Christian uses time as the reason for those marriages but then try to attack Muslims for the same
@@heisnahom there was Solomon was in his 80s or so when he married the preteen and most say Joseph was in his 40s and Mary was like 12 reason why Joseph isn't in adult Jesus life but Mary was
@@joe-xs7wrThe bible doesn't mention Marys age. So stop laying. And if someone in the bible married an underage girl, we don't defend it like you. We know that they are humans and they will ofcourse make mistakes. Thats why our lord didn't mary anyone because he was perfect.
Even the ai couldnt defend that certain religion which "claims" to win every arguement 🥲
As Ai barely know anything about Islam
It keep making new verses in Quran
The avg Muslim who study islam have way more info than chat GPT
@@Z-G271 um fair enough, respectfully please explain the child marriage thing please! (Without using at the time it was...)
@@jaykugosenpai9393
The marriage age is puberty
And put in perspective that she has to agree on this marriage and her father too
And should not cause physical or mental damage
@@jaykugosenpai9393 there is more but its youtube will delete the comment like 2 mins ago
@@jaykugosenpai9393
1. Girls reach puberty in desert areas faster than normal, so what about before 1400?
When Aisha's sister was only 16, she was climbing a mountain carrying her belongings, and men today cannot climb this mountain.
2. Her father and mother were satisfied.
3. The Prophet did not think about Aisha until one of the female companions came and proposed to the Prophet because she was engaged to a non-Muslim man, which is not permissible. Everyone agreed.
4. Do you know what was best for Aisha more than her?
She loved the Prophet very much and used to spread the hadiths of their love. She used to advise girls to marry at her age if they could.
The challenger for Islam was just.. wow
The judgements are so biased , why dont bring up the buddhism laws of beating wives or the OT passages commanding rape ?
Psalm 137:9 “Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks” , cite this to AI and see christianity die
@@sabeehzor7058 It’s a song, sung by captured slaves that were forced to sing by their captors on their march into captivity. Their children and friends had just been killed, their homes burned, and their possessions taken. It’s a song filled with heartbreak, anger, and raw emotion. It’s a song, not an ordinance or command.
It’s a Psalm. All of them are rich and emotional, as they wrestle with life, God, joy, and pain.
@sabeehzor7058 hello I'm sabeehzor7058 I'm going to waste my time on TH-cam typing in people's comments cuz I'm bored and pissed at people who don't agree at me
@@sabeehzor7058before or after the song, it says "happy is the one who does to you what you've done to us!" the singer is saying that this is what's being done to them
I like how the AI didn't even mention how the challenger ripped Ephesians 6:5 out of context- that would be too easy of a silver bullet and would avoid a deeper defense.
For anyone wondering just read through Ephesians 6. Its probably a 30sec to 1min read and it Immediately breaks down the moral ambiguity of the verse
Yes context is everything.
The term slave had a very different meaning in parts of the world and time in history.
@@GolfnMoreclips not what I was talking about, but yes that too
Sadly, Jesus never explicitly spoke against slavery and both the old and new testaments support slavery in their respective contexts.
The god of the old testament explicitly dictates how to poperly beat a slave so that it doesn't die. Makes 2 types of slavery conditions, one type of slavery for non-jews and one type of slavery for jews. You can guess which ethnic group got the "better treatment."
As Ephesians said, slaves should obey their masters and their masters should treat their slaves the same way. Yet, there is no apparent opposition to the practice of slavery itself, which is the owning of an another human as property. It also doesn't oppose buying or selling of slaves.
The fact that the old testament, jesus, the early christian writings nor the new testament canon oppose slavery, and just gives new rules to an immoral/inhumane practice, makes the bible a bad contender for moral law, and even worse, moral superiority.
Only through humanistic philosophies and reinterpretations of the bible, slavery was viewed as immoral in the Age of Enlightenment during the 1700's.
Thats why, the "Jesus' message was a ticking time bomb for slavery" argument falls appart, when the time it took for the ticking bomb to 'explode' was almost 2 thousand years later after Jesus' message. And when it also took 1 side of seculars/christians abolishionists vs literalist pro-slavery conservative christian factions to go to war in the U.S for slavery to be abolished. (Specifically in the U.S of course).
Thats also the problem when a supposedly divine message can be interpreted in countless ways. Proving that allegedly divine messages are just human opinion, that carry out human responses.
@@jared02jso
Humans made their bed they have to sleep in it.. when our first parents rejected Almighty Jah as their God refusing his leadership.
Wicked men and Satan rule this world.
Yeshua told Pontius Pilate his kingdom is not of this world. 💯
Almighty God allows suffering right now.
In the near future Lord Yeshua will destroy all wickedness, there will be no hurt or pain or violence.
What he said.
(Matthew 5:4-9)
[“Happy are those who mourn, since they will be comforted. 5 “Happy are the mild-tempered, since they will inherit the earth. 6 “Happy are those hungering and thirsting for righteousness, since they will be filled. 7 “Happy are the merciful, since they will be shown mercy. 8 “Happy are the pure in heart, since they will see God. 9 “Happy are the peacemakers, since they will be called sons of God.]
No one will be around who does Satan's bidding to twist Scriptures.
This is what Yeshua actually taught. 💯
Sha'lom Aleichem in Christ
Hallelujah-Praise Almighty Jah you people.
@@jared02jso I guarentee you if God said "I abolish slavery" in the ancient world with almost no concept of the individual and modern moral framework, it would crash and burn very quickly. The Israelites couldn't even handle the laws God DID give them, let alone somethings as controversial as abolitionism.
And I'd recommend re-reading the Gospels. If you take away from the literature that God is ok with slavery, then with all do respect, you need to retake a course in reading and literary comprehension
Afghanistan has banned Ai after this video😂😂
I love how for Islam it just says "well think about the time" and ignores that a moral example does timeless good, and stays good till the end.
Crazy.
God bless, Jesus died for your sins
A god died for me? That. Means I am equal to him since we both are mortals
That's what Islam is built on: lying and justifying BS.
"Muhammad married a child" "It was normal at the time!"
"Muslims killed non-Muslims and turned female prisoners of war to sex slaves" "It was normal at the time!"
@@nlneth9 You have the intelligence of a newborn ostrich and a goldfish combined.
@@nlneth9 if you never sinned, then probably
@@nlneth9 if you are God, then yes, but you arent
Muslim this y'all goat😭🙏
yes, he definitely is, your point?
@@Noname-u5h9e he is not certified to be a GOAT
@@udayannath2520 he definitely is lol
@@Noname-u5h9e brother he is a diddler
@@udayannath2520 he isn't.
I would love to see one done between Christian and a Jehovah’s Witness.
That would be abuse to the AI doing JW 😂😂
@@erlinghaaland5392 I think it would be good, because JW’s refuse to debate. I don’t know if their beliefs hold up to scrutiny or not. It could be actually good to hear.
@@racingfortheson It's really obvious that their beliefs don't hold up, if you look into it.
I think Mike Winger has a few good videos about them, check it out.
As an ex jw and now Christian it would be interesting. They don't really publicly show their theology and keep in books like "insight on the scriptures" which you can only get from a congregation for example. With a half dozen false prophecies, proveable twisted Bible translations (like John 1:1) and a complete ignorance and arrogance on history while claiming the church invented the belief of Jesus being God with no historical evidence to support the claim
The J Ws, 7th day, and Mormons, used to do debates. 100huntly street broadcast lots of them through the 70-80's but they got HOSED in the debates. Proven as a cult. So it's no wonder they don't do them any more @racingfortheson