Racism in the Muslim Community // Honest Tea Talk | Season 1 Episode 6
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In this episode, we talk about racism in the Muslim community - a much-needed discussion, we're sure you'll agree!
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with Aliyah, LaYinka & Sumayah
Inspired by Jada Pinkett-Smith's 'Red Table Talk', 3 Muslim women have set up a platform to speak openly and honestly, giving viewers an unedited insight into the minds and life of Muslim women. Honest Tea Talk brings deep and often unspoken topics to the table to lay down our masks and start much-needed discussions about matters related to Muslim women and the ummah at large.
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I absolutely haaaattteee when imams trying to address racism say “don’t look at the face of a black man, look at the heart” like nooo, look at that face, because it is beautiful!!!
Boom!
Indeed, besides did Allah not say that he created us in many nations and tribes so that we may know each other? I cringe when people claim they are colorblind, first, they aren't, second it is emotionally violent and dismissive.
There is definitely racism out there but picking on people words who are trying to go against racism is being abit harsh.
There are some who write race politics into the wordings of the Quran and hadiths, like the nation of islam sect. Whenever the noor is mentioned they misinterpret it as white skin and whenever darkness is mentioned they interpret it as black with complete ignorance of arabic language ignoring all 1400 scholarship on it. So whenever the day of judgement is mentioned they state white skinned enter jannah even though its people are given Noor (light and radiance) on when entering heaven no matter the racial colour.
They create mistrust amongst the various races which disgenious.
There is racism amongst anyone who put culture above religion and are usually less practicing. They may have hijab on and beard but they may not pray at home, I met people like this.
But we cannot pretend that blacks are not racist ever because I clearly remember in my childhood both whites and blacks used to pick on us Pakistanis but usually they were not muslim
Literally I am not joking about this. I had a black friend who was my neighbour. One day her cousins were over, I said hey, and she pretending to act like she never knew me and slapped my face. It really hurt me. She kept on doing this but I was worried my mum was going to blame me if I fought back. Then one day she tried it infront of mum and I just lost it and punched out. She never did it again....
As a black African student studying in Austria i get tired of being asked by arabs to read the Quran to proove to them I am a muslim. My words are never enough for them and Alhamdoulilah am more praticing Muslim than all the others who ever asked me
That's disgusting that they do that to you. How dare they!
From my own experience it hasn't been Arabs only once I had a bad experience when a lady fro Saudi bound my feet up in a hijab to pray at the Mosque, as she said my prayer wouldn't be accepted. I was wearing an abaya over my clothes and hijab. I always pray barefoot.
@@Azoz-oz shut up
@@Azoz-oz ayrab
Yap that's why I am not muslim
and when you try speak about racism to arabs all they say is 'bilal 😌✨'
LOL so true
Hh but they are hate with Ethiopians
Gamal Nasser if you read more about Bilal’s RA story, it says that even though he was mixed he was of a very darkskin. So he didn’t even look like he was mixed.
Lol!! The Bilal R.A example has been outplayed! It annoys me
yh just like the white supremacists who say "i have a black friend."
We need to talk about the racism within the muslim community more often.
There is A LOT to be said.
Aliyah describes her passion about fighting this major injustice of racism and I feel the same exact way! I believe many black Muslims are afraid to talk about racism because they feel like they’re victimizing themselves or in that position of helplessness. Talking about racism is not playing the victim card, it is speaking the truth.
Imagine the discrimination converts face...
Seydi Ba pullo yaa wuur cella
White Muslims get called race traitors and if you are accepted by a SJW thinking your not WHITE for some reason and they act like your not white and when you tell them you're white they attack you...
Actually the plight of black people globally is widely known, including in Muslim communities. What is not acknowledged is racism among black people against each other (light skin/mixed vs black) and also how we can also be racist towards other ethnic minority Muslims.
@@unapologetic7281 Colorism is acknowledged and addressed.
Racism exists so much here that I had to stop going to a particular masjid, this is particularly with Arabs and it makes me sick..
sorry to hear that sister but i know what you are talking about
There is a reason I don’t like muslima
Not all Arabs are racist coming from an Arab
@@salnimer9650 most are 🤷🏽♀️
I attend a masjid where racism exist and there are Africans that are there mostly...I am a fair skin black women..ugh
As a revert from several years back, close to 20 years now, I have steered away from being a Muslim that practices in a mosque because the same thing that has brought me to Islam (the practice of everyone being on the same level and only your good deeds being highlighted) is the same thing that has kept me away (the racism). I wanted/still want a Muslimah but do not appreciate how I am limited to a particular race trait...I appreciate everyone but this is not shared! I want a Muslimah that is supportive and one that HELPS me be a better Muslim in practice! I appreciate the sisters highlighting this issue because it is very real and has affected me for years!
I,m a revert as well, and yes THERE are racism, espesially among European revert.
i’m sorry about the experience you've had .i’ve always been open to reverts as being born a muslim doesn't make one automatically a practicing one. sadly many view it as a 'risk'. same goes for intermarriage amongst muslims. we are one ummah, everything else is secondary.
as an african muslim (often mistaken for black arab) living in the west - i too avoid the masjids cause i don’t feel welcome. colorism exists even in africa. the obsession with pale skin and skin bleaching is like never before thanks partly to social media and 'filters'.
Whaaa???😂 How about selecting a wife based on her iman, shared interests, shared shared picture of how you want your daily lifestyle to be, & of course her being a cooling to your eyes.
I think that the dark skinned sister wants to NOT see it. She was quick to point out how Black people discriminate against "other" Muslims.
i love aliyah take on this issue
black lives matter is not racist
You’ve hit the nail on the head ! and it’s just so unfortunate she Chooses NOT to see it.
I mean she's kinda right tho, cause as a black muslimah I never encountered racism in the muslim community and I can tell you that some black muslim parents are also a bit reluctant to let their children marry other but black.
@@ayaatsade4586 not isn’t! The idea is speaking out to say enough!!!
I'm sorry but sumeyya and LaYinka's opinions were off base for me. The fact that they didn't really recognize the racism happening was really disheartening to me. And then the thing about how laYinka didnt really experience anything so she felt like it's not something she wants to get fired up about? Come on these are your people being treated badly! We are a community and we need to support each other. And if you dont know what's going on educate yourself.
Dhynasah James I felt the same way, it was very off putting! Especially coming from darker skinned sisters...
She spoke her truth I guess, like no body is perfect, if she hasn't really experienced it, you don't expect her to lie about it .....that's why it's called honest tea talk....they are not portraying themselves as perfect,it's just a conversation about problems we face as muslims
Dhynasah Çakir 💯
We are all ppl together in the end, all Children of Adam, believe it or not Islam bring solution not just to the oppressed but the oppressor who feels that weakness to be an oppressor. there's a hadith help your bro if hes oppressed or an oppressor, they asked how do we help an oppressor, by telling him not to oppress, one of the refutations i use on atheists is that they built no civilizations so humanity as a whole testifies to Tawhid of Islam the preserved faith in this ummah and faith of all the Prophets peace and blessings be upon them. there is no sin except theres a good deed better then it and this is proven, but also one is to council their hearts and Aisha Radiyallahu anha said the first verses revealed were to soften the hearts, and about Tawhid and judgement day etc.So it can soften teh hearts of an oppressor as well. The point it Quran is solution from all angles! that education is just as vital as anything if not more, because there will always be problems but the general studies of Islam and history (which is perverted by innovators) and its virtues can remove these problems!
I was very dissapoited too in hearing that a Black person isn't aware of racism. Am à non muslim but even from thé outsider I see it all the time in any forum of religion group. Sorry to her but i think she inconscienly repress thé belief of racism but she must have definitly have expérienced racist expecially for à darker ton skin like her.
Whenever Sumayah speaks, I literally get chills. She is so wise. Her segment from @9:00-11:10 literally spoke to me and confirmed a lot. Thank you Sister💜
One thing that I find absolutely cringeworth is when family friends or people I know who've settled in the UK a while back start complaining about new migrants coming into the UK. I can't keep shut at those time and reply that they're only doing what you and I or our parents did, if your going to complain you better put yourself in that equation. Makes my blood boil.
And it also makes me think that, hypothetically, if they're complaining to this level while they're not even living in their land of ethic origin, imagine how they would treat any mingrants coming into their land?
Perfectly said
Being bangledeshian and having really dark skin I’ve actually heard racist remarks from lighter skinned black Muslims 😐
Sorry to hear that but some People suffer from Post colonial master syndrome and look upto their white god and down on the black race, funny that because black people never called people coolies or take the land.... so where is the problem with black people
@@healthvsfatigue9147 I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. What race were they tho
I am sorry for the treatment for the Bangladeshi people by Pakistanis who were racist n 1971 causing the war of independence.
Dude I seen Arabs brag about being white
@@bryanbradley6871 Those who are pure Arabs are generally darker skinned and no one speaks of Arabs as being "white" - Sure there are some Lebanese and others who have mixed features due to race mixing ( Phoenicians and Europeans having been to the Levant in history) but Arabs know that they are a Semitic race and that the pure Arabs from the Peninsula, Gulf and Yemen are hardly white. So if someone Arab is bragging about not being a Middle Eastern Semitic race but European White, it only shows you that they are insecure and don't know about anthropology or history.
I just discovered you ladies and I'm loving it. I listen to you guys like a podcast while I'm homemaking 😅 absolutely love what you're doing. I listened to your video 'to our younger selves' and I actually cried and I've never cried over a podcastlol .I am a young Muslim women myself in my twenties and it was so touching to come across Muslim women going through a lot for what to many of us are going through. Keep us the good work and may Allah put Baraka into it 🥰💖💖
Great episode! This is a topic that needs to be discussed in every community and every masjid throughout the world. It ties into tribalism which is prevalent in some of our cultures. As a revert, racism in Islam is very disappointing, it clarifies the fact that we have deviated from the true teachings of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH regarding not just tolerance but acceptance and appreciation of the benefits of multi-culturalism which are creativity, innovation and progress. The greatest period in our Islamic history encompasses great scientific discoveries, the development of sound governance and human rights never before seen on earth. Islam was attractive then because there were so many benefits to being a Muslim which opened people up to the teachings. Treating each other as true brothers and sisters is paramount to regaining our dignity. I hope the discussion on this video sparks the conversations that are so badly needed in order to begin addressing our problems. Love you all for the sake of Allah
This was a hard blow for me, as a new revert I came in with the hope of safety amount my muslim brothers and sisters. I had the expectation that all Muslims put faith before culture and color… boy was I wrong. I am so sad to see this happening. For me I choose and will always choose my faith over culture
islam is arab imperialism
There is a long history. Its ingrained in the culture.
Arab and muslim community in general are the most racist people you will ever meet in your life , ofcourse they will invite you to eat ( for hasanat) they will fake smile to you and call you sister, but they will always think that they are better more noble ect....
MashAllah really deep topic, well done sisters, appreciate these honest talks.
I completely agree, it’s very sad to see how divided we are.
We need to put Islam before anything else, which means ignoring our differences. So we can all come together.
Different cultures can teach us so much and open our eyes to different things that may be better for us. In shaa Allah bring us all together
Why are you surprised, islam divided the world into Muslim and non muslim , you think you will ve safe if you pick the muslim side ? No in the muslim side there's shiia, and sunna, and ahmadia and many others, and inside those there are , convert and muslim born, and arab muslim and non arab muslim, and after that you have black and white ect
"does it need to be our personal experience in order for us to feel passionate" I have so much rage over injustice regardless of whether it affects me or not and that's how it should be for everyone who is Muslim because our ummah should matter to us. We are meant to care.
Culture is a massive thing and I agree 100%
Yea and culture and race are 2 different things, for example the mainstream culture or 2 ppl might be different and haram but ppl still decide to focus and put din first so they end up gettign along!
Imagine how strong our ummah would be if we got rid of this problem, we would set an example to the whole world.
Ameen
That problem is not going anywhere.
Asc sister i have clicked on this video as soon as i saw this and i was interested. i always saw other people as racist but i never thought of my community as racist. i always thought we were community that never judged anyone else but this was a wake up call. my family would die of shock if i was to invite someone outside my community which was something i always thought of right but never thought of it as racist. because we were raised to with the ideology that always settle down with someone from your community.
Asalam alaikum sister, Alhamdulillah we are having these difficult uncomfortable talks. Watching this episode though i feel like the two darker sister ( please excuse me i forgot your names) but the revert sister seems more honest with her feelings about Race, the others to me came out as trying to express themselves safely, without the risk if projecting themselved as the typical anger defensive black woman! As a black person to say that since you haven't personally experienced racism you don't feel a burning fire is to me being safe, i live in Italy for 10 years, my experience has been Alhamdulillah wonderful maybe innthe course of these 10 years i have only had less than 5 faily stupid racial discrimination, yet i burn ache and suffer because i know my experience is an exception and not a rule.
wow spot on sister
Sister Aaliyah, I LOVE your passion for social justice. Alhamdulillah! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Can we have one episode touching on colourism?
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
Very nice episode, masha Allah. I am not on FB so I leave my comments here. Sisters, I haven't experienced true racism, yes, I've received dirty looks from ppl of different races and a few snarky comments in my life, but to be completely honest, I was born from Muslim revert parents, homeschooled and we were raised on our own land in the country so Alhemdulillah we were safeguarded from the ills of racism. As an adult, my husband and I now do the same with our children; we homeschool them, and live in the country bc city life just isn't ideal for a Muslim family trying to live an Islamic lifestyle. It's horrible to know that so many people simply cannot pull their minds up enough to practice basic Islam; the holy last messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم abolished racism in his final sermon, and if we are to truly love him, we must practice what he has taught us.
May Allah protect you all and your families and all those who help spread this message of deen al Islam.
Maa Sha Allah thanks for sharing your experiences and may Allah accept your Du'a
edit, the word holy can have more then one application, so i guess i can be more open to its different uses!
JazakAllah Khayran again
Racism is in the community.
Guess what, it is real, it is here.
This is Typically Culture.
I remembered When I move To Dallas Texas for the deen. I Was volunteering in one masjid and soubhanAllah after becoming the director of domestic Violence for a short time , one sister told me Well sister they Will not accept you, You are too dark..
I am African by origin, cannot change it but Allah put Knowledge where He Want and How He Want it.
The worse stereotype is When you go To the masjid , Some sisters Usually asked , sister what do you do? Sister what does your husband do ? When you say that I am not married wow .....
It is culture. I usually Smile .
It is hard for black sisters in the community To find a stable man within the community.
Now black hijaby Women are dating non muslims or if you cannot do that like my case the best plan is to suppress that desire of being intimate and having a sephered. Do I Want To Get married yes but I am patient , I Will never Give up. If not meant To be I asked Allah To be a wife of ya Omar IBN Khatab after I live more than 100 years 😊🙏🏿🤲 In Jannah firdaus there is no prejudice
May Allah guide us All and support us.
By the way I volunteer in thé community , I seen it and address it To local leaders.
Alhamdullilah, Allah Kareem.
This remind the time of Jahilia.
During matrimonial Event, the first choice is Their own, then White, then Spanich.
Black.... heinnnnn
It was a Great episode girls. Good job for opening the eyes of the ummah
From what I’ve learned, in the Black American Muslim experience, our identities and perceptions of us are thrust upon us early on. I know when others look at Black Americans, they tend to think we are overzealous about racism here. But I have witnessed the change in mentality once people have immigrated here and see things first hand. It saddens me that people don’t feel affected personally with simple knowledge of the existence of racism. Multicultural society seems to only exacerbate this reality.
I recently started watching this channel, and I throughly enjoyed it so far. This episode kinda disappointed me. Only Aliyah seemed to touch on some of the real issues that goes on in the Muslim community, in terms of Racism.
Now I have no intention to attack the other 2 hosts, as they have every right to have their own opinion.
With that being said, racism is real, I’ve seen it and experienced it, multiple times.
My goodness I wish I could tell all the stories, and how we could all be contributing to racism if we are not willing to tackle it and acknowledge it’s there.
Its not a very serious discussion is it?
Masha Allah.. My three beautiful sisters in Islam. You sisters are doing a great work n bringing the topic needed to talk on the table. i have alot of sudani, Somalian, Ethiopian friends. some asian people even questions me why i have those friend. and my replies hurt them cuz i tell them they are better people than u. To prove that i point the word they just spoke to me n my friends never said such words.
The biggest problem is that too many Black Muslim men are looking for Muslim women outside their own race. They are being more discriminatory against Black women.
Bingo💯
I never seen a Arab Muslim woman with a black Muslim man ! Arabs don’t view blacks as real Muslims!
Mashaa Allah ! Very insightful as usual !
May Allah SWT heal our hearts !
Ameen.
Love this topic. My moms white and my dads black I was born In america but my husband came from Asia and we live in NYC. While my is one of the most diverse racism is still alive & well in the community. It goes both ways his people hate 2 see hin with me and my people judge and laugh as to why im with an Asian man smh may allah help change everyone's heart
Extremely relevant topic right now sharing this with all my aunties that can understand English!
Salaaam sisters, jzk for your efforts. I stumbled across your channel and I have found myself binge-watching the entire series. Words cannot fathom how insightful these discussions are; they are educational and NEEDED within our Muslim communities. Please continue with other series, we need to engage in dialogue with each other and convey practical ways not only to spread the awareness but to actively combat these issues on both an individual and societal level. Baaraka Allahu feekom.
Racism involves race and power structure. You can’t be racist against white people. You can be prejudiced but not racist. Reverse racism is not a thing. That said, thank you for discussing these things. I think Muslim communities would benefit greatly from extensive and recurring education about racial biases and systemic/institutional racism. Aliyah, I am the same way. Injustice sets my behind on fire and I can’t keep quiet.
Nia Pgn You can be racist against white people if the power structure do not favor them. Reverse racism does exist.
Comes from a base of prejudice rather than racism. You will then discriminate based of that
AssalamAlaikum As a African American convert ( October 2015) I was discriminated against by the Arab women of the mosque. I joined the women’s group and they said mean things to me on several different occasions and made me cry. Also when there were events at the mosque they would ignore us American Muslims. To the point of not allowing us to sit with them and eat. They would ignore us and give us ugly looks. I left the group and stopped going to events at the mosque. Thank you for speaking on this.
As a revert, I have experienced racism from the Pakistani and Bengali community. Considering islam teaches equality, I am absolutely shocked by the attitudes and behaviour from those that are born and educated in this country. It's 2021 and people still hold onto the cultural baggage of their grandparents. Not sure if this is a sub-continental issue, or a lack of worldly education. Either way before we can address the world issues as a community. I think we need to look in house. The things I have been subjected to as a revert, is absolutely shocking. Why isn't this address by the imams (from the sub-continent)? Is it because they have racist and nationalist sentiments.
I am sorry you had to experience such negativity but remember, people who behave that way to you are themselves mental slaves of a post colonial mind set. Think about how Pakistanis treated Bangladeshis up to the war of Independence in 1971. Was it a crime for Bangalis to look short dark and more Indians compared to native people in then West Pakistan? Look at the way Indian migrants (Muhajirs) in Pakistan living in Karachi are treated but they are felt to be more Indian looking. The ignorance of others is no need to be down - feel sorry for their ignorance.
Sadly racism is evrywhere and this topic need to be discussed within families and friends... most important within ourselves. we assum and generalize action of one person or some people to identify other races and i see many peole in sosial media trying to go aganist racism but then end up being racist! May Allah guide us all
I'm loving ❤ binge watching these incredible amazing HTT episodes 😍 jazakumulahu khair sisters and Allahumma-Barik xxxxx
Same^^
As a moroccan french muslim, I haven't seen them as three black sisters. Its when they started talking about it that I thought Aliya was arab, Sumaya was somali and Layinka is black, and even then I got ot wrong. I don't know if it's my family's reality because none of my married brothers and sisters married within our nationality / ethnicity, or if I don't judge the quality of the programme by the people doing it.
I don't condone the phrase I dont see color because it doesn't show the endemic problems / discriminations faced by people of color, I prefer to say that in this situation I didn't care about the color of their skin.
Aliya doesn't look Arab. She looks South Asian.
I am mexican living in the USA and I have never experienced racism and I have from Arab/Muslims.
I am married to a Palestinian and I can tell you it’s absolutely not about having the same culture, eating same food, speaking same language ETC. It’s about race and prejudice.
The most hateful and hurtful remarks have been made against my person and the concern of my husband having a daughter and raising her like “me”, although they don’t know “me”.
They absolutely feel like I am less than and not worthy of my husband. He is an engineer and for that reason he was expected to marry someone worthy of him.. and that means blond, tall and black or blue eyes arab but in sure if I had those physical attributes it wouldn’t matter where I’m from.
I am tolerated but I am not embraced and there is a huge difference. People need to open their eyes and call it for what it is.
Are you speaking of the community or your husband's family? If it's his family, do you regret marrying him because of that?
I'm an European revert and I met a Pakistani man who I wanted to marry but his family won't let it happen. They judgded me without even meeting me. I'm not sure of it's worth pursuing and even if we do get married how will our lives look like being surrounded by such disgusting prejudice?
It’s very common in the community
I've never seen a blonde haired and blue eyed Arab in my life.
As a revert and black muslim YES BLACK MUSLIM I would always be passionate and outspoken about the illnesses within the Ummah as I've always said that my experience from Jahiliyyah the racism would be more systemic but amongst the ummah it's in many cases worse especially when I understand that Muhammad (pbuh) was sent as a messenger and a mercy to the whole of mankind but sadly many fail to acknowledge when Allah said whosoever has an atoms weight of racism, nationalism or tribalism in their heart Jannah is forbidden for them. When this topic is brought up many of those who doesn't have to deal with what being a black muslim would say things like O brother worry about your relationship with Allah don't focus on these people etc... for me that's just another form of dismissal and rejection of addressing the core issue as a collective. This is why many who come into Islam who's finding their ground in taqwa sadly get turnt off by those and leave Islam if their faith is not yet grounded.
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair." sahih bukhari2928
muhammad is talking about turks when they were of mongoliaan features
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Turks; people with small eyes, red faces, and flat noses. Their faces will look like shields coated with leather. The Hour will not be established till you fight with people whose shoes are made of hair."
shaih bukhari 9 87 161
black woman in medina seen as sign of epidemic .how disgusting.
This is an interesting topic to begin with I love and appreciate aaliyah's honesty but I think I wanna hear more from sumayyah this episode isn't finished....its shown in her face that she has a lot to say thank u and love u all 💓
Hello! I'm from Chad and i'm very pround of you! Tell us about the merits of the prayer on the beloved Prophet Muhammad (Peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)
I disagree with the comment one sister said about if you live in a mixed society like the west you don’t experience racism. I’ve lived my whole life in US, but my origins are from East Africa. I have experience segregation in Masjids because they are dominated by Arab or Pakistani communities. They develop a closeness in relation based on their race (which is fine) this is extended to Islamic events. They gather and I’m not as included because I’m not from their community. This is apparent when a joyful event is had, you’ll often see people of their own race only invited (graduations, weddings, etc) or 2-3 of another race present.
true there is severe racism in the muslim community against black muslims from my personal experience whites are less racist
Where in the U.S did you grow up? 95% of Masjids in where I grew up were ran by east Africans, the Arabs were complaining about the segregation. Different experience for different people, I guess
The only question I will always ever ask in any racist situation is that do we even all believe that we all came from Adam AS and Hauwa RA
honestly thank you so much sisters for talking about this..
Manshallah Layinka, is soo open to come up all details & energetic.
I really respect Aliya she really is a great human being with a big heart
as a pukhtoon muslim from pakistan yes we have racism based on the family status not on the basis of skin color if you have good family background we are okey with that what else your color is.....if you belong to weak family background and you have the most beautiful person on the earth our family didnt accept the person...after that the man become very rich our people dont look its present they just they belong from that family and simply reject them.... i hope you understan what iam trying to say because my english is not good enough...
When Allah created Adam He hit his right shoulder from which his descendants who are as white as pearls came out, then He hit his left shoulder from which his descendants who are as black as charcoal came out; then He said to the one’s on his right enter the Paradise and that would not diminish from My dominion to the least and He said to the one’s on his left enter Hell-fire and that would not increase anything in My dominion” (Al-Haythami & Abul-Wazir Al-Yamani)
It is difficult to continue being non racist when others refuse to let go of their racism. Layinka's concerns about black Muslims giving it back is true but it comes a point when the only way people get it is by giving it so they will understand it better
I know this is random but what is the theme song? It’s so calming
Yawrood - Alaa Wardi. Enjoy
it happens to latin american muslimahs ALL THE TIME. Here in my country there are around 6.000 muslims and the majority of those are women converts over 30 yrs old, so finding a husband is the most difficult task here. Anyways, whether we go to a muslim matrimonial agency or scroll the web or etc etc , almost any muslim man doesnt take us seriously when we say we are latinas, because they think we are prostitutes, easy girls etc (they tehmselves have told us that) etc. Ive known lots of cases in which the men just marries a latina because of sex and then he divorces her to marry one of his country.
sorry my sister it hurts me to hear that i pray for all my sister and myself we find good men inshallah
Ceyni Cade you'll never find a man while hating on your own men and worshipping others nayaa
Born in Sénégal and have been to morroco for university studies. I can assure you that this topic is deep and racism need to be adressed in the muslim community. Even inside a mosquee, there are People Who do not want to see a coulored person standing near them....
I have so much love and Respect for your work great topic
I've experienced racism from muslims for being a Australian revert white woman, I've never been accepted..
I am a black African Muslim, for me, I can say there's no racism in Islam but there's extensive racism among Muslims, especially white Arab Muslims. I am saying this because I experienced it when I wanted to marry a white arab Muslim girl, this thing is really and they don't care that I am Muslim, they refuse to marry that girl because I am black. I will never forget this in my life. I have seen this to my fellow black Muslims when they wanted to marry an arab Muslim girl, InshaAllah ALLAH knows
An amazing amount of Asian, Arab and European Muslims were all over me when they found that I'm Muslim. Because I'm white. I'd rather marry an African woman. InshAllah let my children be black. Lol
Thanks for your inspirants thoughts
I find it very difficult to understand practicing muslims with all the bear the robes and constantly reading the Koran and still have space in their heart to be racist. Either the individual is not truthful or Islam is not true.
Racism/prejudices are even very prevalent between the same race within the same race. How many times have I herd Indian's talk prejudices about other indian's from other regions or Arabs about other arabs or even as narrow as Palestinians about other palestinians. Humans love labels. I myself find myself as a brown man fighting my prejudices against white people.
Alhumdulillah for the courage to talk about it.
Asc sisters Jazak'Allah to all of you love this show. But I must say to my sisters Layinka and Sumayah either you guys are just oblivion or you are apart of a very lucky few Black people that haven't experienced racism. As for the sister with the black hijab Black people can't be racist but we can be prejudice towards others. And the idea that fighting racism which as muslims we should because our religion is also a religion of justice. Self oppression is not in our deen one must speak up about oppression even more so if they are being oppressed or treated poorly one more thing don't forget that just like White people Arabs took part in slavery that was based on skintone!!( slavery in itself was practiced by many people). I really love your show but please don't down play this problem and water it down to every group experience racism because they don't. By the way thanks to Aliyah. Love you Fi sabililliah ❤
@@LaYinkaSanni Good answer La Yinka .
The sister on the right was so correct with what she said...I agree totally. You com into the seen reading from the Quran ,we are equal but reality is the culture,racism connected to Islam. Learn to separated it.
This was powerful wow !!!!!!!!!!
Only way how to solve it is separating from those who are racist. Most tribes live under the faced of being modest. I’ve stay in muslim arab communities and most just dress modest that’s all. If people just separate people solved. I pray at any mosque yet I only practice brotherhood with those who practice brotherhood with me simple.
I have this experience here in the community.
As a African, I meet a Turkish guy and I recognised him from the mosque, I decided to say Salam brother and trying to say I recognised him from the mosque.
After that he say or you Africans only pray on Fridays. I took seconds to reply him, I was so down. I told him brother we pray every single day and we are not praying and say peoples come see us. In my mind I wanted to ask him if he knew one reason why YA ALLAH broad the prophets and miracles on the Arabs?" , but i decided not to bring such topics because we both didn't had the time.
My point is " Some Arabs should stop discriminating peoples.
Why some of them have a problem for a black Muslim and Arab women getting married?
Why do some Arab Muslim think the Islam is there own?
Is never writing in the Qur'an.
Asallamu Allaikum Warahmatullah.
i dont understand why you would want to ask him that? why would he be offended, you said he is turkish not arabic.
That's not racism, that's a man denying your shot. Everything is racism to you people smh. So is it racism because some white girl left me on read? You people are unbelievable
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
the part about bulyying, i was bullied all my life in school it was just normal back then
Ma sha Allah, it makes me so happy to see sisters dressed properly according to Islam and not wearing makeup. Representing our deed and proud to please Allah with what He has commanded.
The racism amongs the Muslims is real, in particular amongst the Arabs and South Asian Muslims. As an African American convert it is even more sad and disgusting to see it among practing Muslims and community leaders.
Racism has been used as a political football to squelch dissent in the Masajid and community and to unite a group behind a common agenda (irregardless if it's just or not). But not enough exposure has been given to the Sumali community for their share in such practices. Even though they are black like me they often descriminate against other black Muslims because of tribalism or nationalism.
It's allmost impossible to establish true brotherhood with anyone with such mentalities. It is vital to openly expose these ills for the health of the community. By remaining silent you only enable such people as they will not change without external pressure.
well said the racism in somalia is just as bad as arab countries what is even worse it is against other tribes and west african looking africans some somalis are suffering from identity crisis they are told that their tribe has arab origin so they dont even see themselves as pure black people
@@ceynicade9519 Shut you dumb Dhilo, Somali are racially pure homogeneous ethnic group that gos back thousands of years and we are not Arabs and what wrong Somalis are sticking with their own kind only bitch
Bladed Truth there are like 50 Muslim majority countries but you had to mention Somali. We're sick of tired of y'all playing the race card with us like we segregated y'all for 400 years. Maybe it's time for y'all to establish y'all own masaajids and stop playing the victimhood mentality with people who don't even think about ya'll. Just an idea. Nobody owes y'all anything, bro
No one is more tribalistic and nationalistic and even xenophobic than the African American community. Don't y'all call yourself ADOS? Miss me with that b.s
Reeper rad this dhillo is self hating weirdo who sucks up to gaalo and madows. She just had to bring up arabs because she's projecting her insecurities onto others, foh nayaa
Alsalamu Alakuim. Yes I am black revert Muslim. Born in The Us to a Jamaican Mother and Ghanaian father. I find the south Asian community to be less racist. I have not meet any racist Southeast Asians. Majority of my friends are Pakistani and Indian Muslims. I have revert friends as well. We only talk in college and in WhatsApp. I have experience racism with Arabs. I have only meet one Arab from Saudi Arabia who accepts me. Majority Arab Muslim I meet have called me kafir and bald headed. I find African Muslims to be more racist than the Arabs. The Sudanese are worse. I have meet many Sudanese who have darker skin color than me who claim they are white and look down at other African and Southeast Asian Muslims. My close friend in high school was from Saudi Arabia and told me I am kafir and Islam is only for Gulf Arabs when I reverted and her best friend is from Sudan. I told her family they said Southeast Asian and blacks are kafir and cunts. Arab superiority and white superiority is a thing in the Muslim community. Majority of Middle Eastern people look down on Muslims not from the Middle East.
Sudanese people are like that
@@mplsridah I know sadly
Dark skinned Black woman says she does not experience racism and I as a Black woman - laugh. Self delusion.
What odd to me is being called a white person so I am different from a blond women from Iran. I was like one shade lighter. I was like, "but you're white too". It puzzles me too how much people from Eastern don't like to be considered dark. In Canada we don't like to be called to light and tan. Why can't all skin be considered beautiful. One thing I hate is being referred to as a colonists for being white. I never repressed any one and don't judge based on pigment. I think being judged for being white is racist too. Or being told I am wierd for being a white Muslim is racist too.
Idk...I think it is human nature to find differences and use it as a source of mistrust...maybe shaitan's whispers but we need to actively try to combat it. People even within the same culture discriminate (e.g. lineage, class, social status)
I’m Mexican American- Muslim. At the mosque; lint time ago when I was single. many times they asked me, are you legal ? ( American papers) -Because I know a good brother back home that he will be an excellent husband for you! - (me)- really ? - I have no friends in the mosque, because I don’t speak Arabic. My husband is African American, and still I have no friends.
In my opinion & if you agree or disagree ..
If someone want to speak or to have friendship or relationship with anyone..first impression is always based on colour ..
After quite sometime.if you are back and good character ..they will think that you are good person n ur relationship continue..
If you are black and little bit arrogance..they will involve racism..
If you are white and good character then you get nice welcome..
If you are white and even bad character..they may avoid you..racism never plays here..
As a brown asian and it's something deeply routed in our mind from childhood.
As sister says. We just ignore and lead our life.
Every black/brown coloured human should face this situation in their life.. no matter where ever you lives.
can you please label the videos with short tags so that we can see what episode it is before clicking? the "episode 1/2/3/4" doesn't show in full as what's written before it takes all the space. I don't know how better to explain this. but I will like to see the number of episode I am about to click on. thanks
This is a Muslim school!!!
Sumayah: That doesn't matter...
She is absolutely right. We all know that Islam is perfect, Muslims are not. But sometimes we forget just how far we are from the true deen.
I have faced racism from my Arab community; I have found two faces Muslims and they’re practicing Muslims. They talked in their language in front of me, also Muslim men when looking for marriage look for younger women; someone that can give children and they don’t see themselves as too old to procreate!
I faced racism even when went to Masjid to pray 😞 Sisters wouldn’t let me touch, they kept away.
So, for me they’re ignorant but they insist to put me down.
As a revert better separated myself from this community 🙈
Im so sorry, this is an exceptable! Remember allah is aware of everything, be patient sister
May Allah bless you sister, I hope that you were able to get closer to Allah during lockdown and ramadan !
I am sorry you had to experience this but remember there are ignorant people everywhere. You probably know more about the faith and what is right / wring that a lot of people who are born into the faith and just go with the flow.
However I believe that even if you’re white you still can get a lot of hatred or shade thrown towards you. I am a pale sister, and pale sisters or even pale women do not even get recognition anymore. It’s all about the fake tan, ( no offense ) I am all for our lovely black women in today’s society, and for all our ( naturally ) tanned women. But not for the women that are ‘ blackfishing ‘ or portraying as someone who they are not. To me that is insecurity of ones skin. May we all be accepting of our skin tones whether we’re white, black, tanned or whatever. 🤲🏻🤲🏼🤲🏽🤲🏾🤲🏿
agree with you sister
Tan is not even a color it is basically brown unless it’s a fake tan
your experience is nothing compared to what darker people go through... so please shut your entitled white mouth.
Imagine how ethnic women (brown and black) feel, being bombarded with white woman’s image everywhere for hundreds of years, and what that would do for their self-esteem. If you ask me, I believe it’s whiteness that is still being worshiped by ethnic people (brown and black communities) as a result of colonialism and the caste system in all these peoples cultures.
Also there is a difference between criitisizing culture and race.
I love to watch your episodes keep going
This is definitely the least satisfying episode. Nooo Layinka and Summayyah!! Racism/discrimination/prejudice is everywhere. Summayah coming from the States. I think they were both sheltered in their Nigerian and Somali communities that's why they did not experience racism and how bad it is. There should be an episode on Discrimination on reverts no matter if they are white, black or Asian and really delve into it because sisters, this thing is real an so unIslamic.
Mohamed said *"the deviL looks like a black person"* when he got asked.😞
He never said that. Bring your reference
Please stop spreading this non sense. Yes racism exists, but WHEN IT COMES TO MARRIAGE, THIS IS NOT RACISM. Stop telling brothers and sisters to against their parents wishes. This is going to earn them hellfire!!!
What?? Judging whether a person is fit for marriage based on skin color is incredibly stupid. Please tell me how obeying racist parents is wise?
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You rather get into the hellfire when you‘re insulting the creation of Allah.
@@fluttershypony1420 maybe because we are not attractive to black feature and skin
The sister in the black Hijab seems so dismissive about racism and discrimination. I wanted to become Muslim but some of the stuff i saw turned me off. Still have a ton of love for the faith and respect. Also, the sister in the pink Hijab im guessing is east african they tend to not want anything to do with blackness. i guess I'm biased since I'm American and my racial experience have been vastly different. Our blackness is the first thing noticed.
I just wanted to note that within Islam itself, their is no such thing as looking down upon someone due to their race. Or even looking down upon someone for whatever other reason. In the Quran Allah stated “O humanity! Indeed, We created you from a male and a female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may ˹get to˺ know one another. Surely the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous among you. Allah is truly All-Knowing, All-Aware.” Surah Al-Hujurat ayah 13. I understand it can be frustrating and is something that should be addressed and stopped but if you look at it in another perspective. Allah test a believer with different trials and if they pass that test(meaning being consistent in their relationship with Allah swt) Allah rewards them immensely for what they had to go through.
To also include that someone who is truly apon Islam meaning they are sincere and strive to get closer to Allah would never act or think in such a manner.
I agree with your last statement as in America the first thing that some people will see is your skin color which is very shallow way to deal with people. It’s like someone judging you based off of your eye color or something.
One woman says she hates injustice, but what is her stance on LGBTQ people being treated like straight people in Islam, and being allowed to act on their natures? If she wants to fight for something, that might be a good place to begin.
17:50 SubhanAllah we have to take action and throw this prejudices directly in the bin
I see black and white Christian couples all the time but I have rarely ever seen an interracial Muslim couple, I don't think I've ever seen an Arab and Black couple Muslim couple. The ones I have seen were not Muslim.
We Arabs are Semitic Caucasians from ancient Middle East and come from Middle Eastern ancestors who created first human civilizations. We do NOT want to destroy our heritage and DNA by getting married to Black people.
It's always about the black man. He's always discontented with women of his own race. Otherwise this discussion would NOT be necessary.
Honest tea Talk may we talk and find some of the faults and learn seeking forgiveness
mashallah really like your podcasts
ماشاالله
I think it's sad when ARABIAN Muslims say something about racism in the Christian/ non Muslim community, but ignore racism in the Muslim community and actually deny it
Me I am glad I left,just couldn't take it,being born in Mauritania I saw it all.
It is sad to be treated differently. Due respect should be accorded to all irrespective of their skin colour. Yes, like every body else Muslims tend to marry in their own communities because of culture n language reasons. But if people are exercising prejudice that is both ignorance n arrogance....usually ignorant people tend to be arrogant,that is why they are called Ignoramus.One who understands essence of Creation, then one needs to submit to it with grace n humility. Beauty of Allah is in his creation....BEHOLD!!!:
Deep topic keep going
This is why the salafi sect is the safe sect no racism.