Biden Vs The GOP On Covid Relief | Pod Save America
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- President Biden steers his Covid relief plan through bad faith whining about unity, Mitch McConnell tries to prevent Democrats from taking control of the Senate, and the MAGA extremists are winning the Republican civil war. Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett and Tommy Vietor discuss Joe Biden's $1.9 trillion coronavirus bill that includes a $15 minimum wage and vaccine aid. Then, they break down the Senate, the reconciliation process, the filibuster, and Donald Trump's upcoming impeachment trial. Last, they talk about the danger of extremism in the Republican party and its surrounding media apparatus.
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I've said this before and I'll say it again...the fact that one vile little turtle man from Kentucky can hold up the running of the entire US Government is so phucking ridiculous it begs the question - are you truly a democracy when the power to halt the passing of legislation rests in the hands of ONE man??
Ps...another brilliant podcast, you friggin geniuses! :-)
I love coming here. Smart, Knowledgeable, Humerous, No Cringe. What a gift! Thank you!
I believe that all the people should start calling all their representatives both Congress and Senators and tell them "We voted to send you to Washington to be our advocate, now help us, we are drowning".
You’re right Joyce. We should start calling DC and let them know the American People are watching and we can take those votes back.
What we don’t need right now is defeatist assholes like Mark up there. If that’s what you truly think, fucking leave. You’re not doing anything to help the situation. Fucktard.
@Mark German Mark, first and foremost, I am not a fool I am very aware of the corruption in DC and the states. Secondly, I back Bernie Sanders' ideas about getting money out of politics. Politicians should ONLY be beholden to their constituents NOT big money from corporations and lobbyists. Thirdly, SPEAK UP, MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD and DONATE YOUR TIME AND MONEY (if you can) to candidates that aren't beholden to big money or corporations. Such as AOC and Bernie. I don't reside in their state but I donated to both Dem. candidates in the Georgia runoff election and AOC when she ran. If you don't like goverment...CHANGE IT! Research the candidates, vote and spread the word. I recently relocated to Florida and from listening to Gov. Desantis and watching Senator Gaetz during hearings on C-span I will work my hardist to see them both GONE. WE THE PEOPLE put these croaks in office and if enough people VOTE we can kick them OUT of office.
@@jennydykstra9510 I liked the first half of your reply. As to rhe second half see my reply to Mark German.
unrelated but LOVETT IS DRINKING WATER IM SO PROUD OF HIM
The first thing I noticed too!
2021 is indeed a new beginning!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🥳
We need to end the filibuster! Period! If we want to get anything done.
But how? :( If McConnell can filibuster any attempt to abolish the filibuster?
Seems like a rotten catch22
@@IngerWinkelmann Use "the nuclear option": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_option#:~:text=The%20%22nuclear%20option%22%20is%20invoked,overruled%20by%20a%20simple%20majority.
What happens when R get the trifecta in 202x?
Be careful about ending the filibuster. What happens when the Republicans win again, which they certainly will. The way I see it, ending the filibuster is bringing in mutually assured destruction. They'll pass a bunch of things the other side doesn't want, and at the end of the day the Democrats are going to have to realize it's their own fault it happened.
By the way, I'd be saying this if the shoe was on the other foot. The filibuster was put in place for a reason, so that the other side can't just push through anything it wants willy-nilly.
The pod feels so niche now that we are post-Trump. Most of it was on Senate procedure! A welcome relief
You should try watching the press briefings now - they're so.........competent and boring.
I love it.
This is hands down one of the best channels on YT, the work you guys do is simply amazing and truly necessary. Thank you!
Thank YOU - that's so kind!
@@podsaveamerica Two things I want: The Biden Administration to pass legislation to get us out of this hole, and Crooked Media to continue to thrive and grow. I'm a simple person, I see Crooked Media and I click.
Great conversation! Helps sort it out for me .. as always, Thank You!
"Thank you for playing. Better luck next time. Have a nice day Mitt". That's Unity.
We need to call our Congressional Representatives and Senators. I know I am.
Here's three things America needs to dump after Trump: 1. The Electoral College; 2. The Filibuster; 3. The Presidential Interregnum. America needs to say "Bye Felicia" to this undemocratic triptych.
Voting rights needs to be on that list of things we should do. Let’s get rid of gerrymandering!
@@LooseWheelFilms Oh shit! Yes that goes in the cart too. Jeez...a lot of work ahead!
It would be so interesting to see the US adopt the MMP structure of government. I know it will never happen, but imagine have the opportunity for other smaller parties to have a small piece of the decisions being made in government.
100% agree, keep going!
@@LooseWheelFilms with elimination of the electoral college the problem of gerrymandering goes with it. We can't fix gerrymandering as long as the electoral college is a thing. We've tried it and it works for a while but it's like Hodor holding the door, they'll get through eventually.
Lovett is adorable with that GIANT glass of ice water
Cut Congress's salary to $15 an hour for an 8 hour day and a 4 day week. That should help pay for some of the cost of Biden's Plan.
Thank you guys. I appreciate all you do.
"The price is concerning."
Look, just stop listening to your five super-rich "friends" and actually listen to your constituents, most of whom are likely to be either poor or working class, and THEN pass legislation to get taxes from those super-rich friends to pay for this "shocking" price tag.
A reporter asked what Biden meant by "unity." Biden _did not_ equate unity with bipartisanship
Mitt Romney and Susan "I think he's learned his lesson" Collins have concerns and are a bit shocked over the price tag. Well, Romney's got a multi million dollar mansion in San Diego, California he lives in comfortably with an estimated fortune in excess of 300 Million dollars. And I'm certain he and his family never have to worry about putting food on the table or paying rent/mortgage. Susan has a worrisome heart coupled with some "concerns" and that's about it. Get rid of the filibuster (Schumer) and pass the darn stimulus relief package now!
@Trent Timoy
Thank you! Well said 👏
Tell the republicans the talk of unity was before 197 Republicans voted against confirmation. Now we're watching to see how many senators vote for impeachment before giving a damn about unity. I personally don't want to be connected to people who support Qanon and attacks on democracy.
@@pakde8002 I'm still trying to wrap my head around where our Constitution states "We the People, of the United States of America" (meaning all of us who live here) is still being torn apart when President Biden calls for "unity". Unity is summed up right there in the Construction. It's all of us.
Republicans are the minority
@@pakde8002 Same here
They should pass the bill through regular order... by eliminating the fillibuster.
Is there a "yeah I mean look" t-shirt?
You guys have one of the best shows on TH-cam. I really enjoy listening to your podcast. ❤💚💜💙💛
Thank you - that means a lot to hear! :)
(John, you do look so much healthier behind that one glass of water per day! I’m in it with you. Doing my best! )
I called sen. sinema and told her to support 50 plus 1 and get on with the business of the people. americans are in crisis and politicians are squabbling and not governing. Legislators should legislate, why else did they seek their office if not to pass the laws their constituents needed. get to it congress, we need you.
Thanks for making calls!
Not passing a proper relief aid bill is like not quite fully putting out your house fire.
You'll still need to act and it is MUCH worse and more expensive the longer you wait.
I woke singing the theme song "Lovett or Leave It". Am I owed money for the use of brain space?
Actually, I'm afraid we'll have to send your brain a bill for music royalties. ;)
@@podsaveamerica such is my brain, I might pay
Good on you guys!
As a non American I have found the pod a great way to learn insight into how politics work...or at least how it should work. This had been great and I love it ❤️.
Thanks, Karen! Glad you like it!
Your skin looks great, lovette! Keep up the water regimen
Ahem...waters great but new beauty light is better 😁😁😁
Frankly we shouldn't care what Rs think about the bill because we can do it through budget reconciliation if we have to. We need to act like we're in charge because we are and if the GOP wants to concern troll and risk losing their seats in 2022 so be it. We need relief now and there's no time for political games.
Republicans concerned about "the cost number"....then Senators, let's opt-out YOUR State from participation and reduce the cost accordingly.
Cut Qanon and maga hats out. If you want a check you have to sign a paper saying the election was fair.
I like that solution...a twist might be to opt out from the districts of those who refused to accept the electors? Reduce the price tag accordingly.
Unrelated, but Lovett is so unbelievably cute...and politics and stuff.
SADLY, Lovett's wearing his grandma's shirt. Maybe Ronan loves when Jon dresses like that💗. But I find it a weird distraction.
(Hugs, Lovett. Don't be mad. You are incredibly talented!)
@@MsKLWms I love that color on lovett though
I Love the shirt💙🌈
Senator Toomey (R-PA) has indicated that the aid should be more directed to those in the most need-especially those who fell through the cracks on the previous two COVID stimulus bills. Restaurants and restaurant workers? Gig workers? People whose incomes have not changed or not changed much (those salaried middle and upper middle class workers in industries who have not been much impacted financially, retirees whose income has not changed due to COVID) should not be receiving checks. There are others I much need. (Note-Biden is our President. He wants to at least give a bipartisan package a try. If they obstruct, are too demanding, then play hard ball.).
Right. Except there’s an argument to be made that sending checks to people who’s incomes may not have been impacted, but are under the limit, they’ll spend that $ on the economy, thus the rescue package also serving as a stimulus in part. I agree with that completely.
Not to mention, they were so slow figuring out who got them to begin with, I can’t imagine how long it’d take if they also sort them by industry. 🙄
How about a death benefit for COVID-19 surviving family members, to bury or cremate their loved ones? Cremation averages around $3500.00. X 400,000 people. I am retired, but my wife passed in May. I have to payoff her car and other bills plus the costs of cremation. And even though she paid into Social Security for 45 years, they give you a one time death benefit of $255. I will be alright financially, but many others will not. I miss her so much. I don't have a plan for the rest of life without her.
@@scoobydoo3928
Aww, I’m so sorry for your loss. 2020 was especially unkind to you. 💜😓You’re totally right though. Funerals are expensive, especially unexpected deaths - plus loss of income from the pandemic. Awful burdens no one should have to experience.
Lovett, not only smart and so handsome but do you just Love that shirt👍👍👍🎉
rusty b are those bees?
@@marylhere I thought they were flowers, now you got me thinking😷😷
WE'RE PUTTIN' DOUG ON A MUG! lol Lovett
Great pod guys!
You guys are absolutely the best. I don't know that much about politics but I was thinking the same thing about the negotiations for the bill. And how we can play it. I guess I know more than I thought. LOL Big hugs and stay safe.
I love Tommy's cynicism🤗
When they spent 3 trillion to bail out Wall St. last March - NO ONE SAID A FUCKING WORD!
Tommy being over the absurdity of American political commentary/journalism is BIG MOOD.
MY BOY TOMMY.
I've adopted an attitude whereby I treat Trumpets like they're abused fight dogs. Very soft voice, matter of fact expectations, an understanding of their upbringing, and the regrettable knowledge that they'll have to be put down if they continue to bite.
Dress it up as a $1.9 trillion Tax Cut & show a little skin.
Why are you guys on Monday now. I thought you were Tuesday??? But I am not complaining. I love you all and if you were on everyday.....YAY!
Pod Save America is always on Mondays and Thursdays. We were just on Tuesday last week due to the holiday. :)
You guys say the stuff that so many people are thinking, keep it up!!
Shots N'Checks is going to be my new band name!
Isn't it funny how the amount is always mandied around when it is to help people but never when it's wasting on government spending, military or political wages
I can't get over HOW CUTE LOVETT LOOKS IN THE THUMBNAIL
I could really benefit from them accelerating the timetable on the third stimulus. This should be up for a vote tomorrow or Wednesday, with distribution beginning next week. This needs to be the multi-tasking, overtime Congress that works like the rest of us have been for a year.
GUYS I LOVE YOU.....I CAN'T SEE HOW I WOULD HAVE SURVIVED THE PANDEMIC WITHOUT YOUUUU
Thank you, Tommy. I so agree with your wisdom. We need a healthy GOP. That said, I also agree that they have a long way to go to rid themselves of the crazies.
I love watching videos of experts saying what will happen and then that thing happens while watching the video. While watching this, McConnell just stepped back his blocking of the power sharing agreement. You guys are psychics.
Wow! Lovett! What an ending. You nailed it.
I am from Texas and this state is driving me crazy
Everyone is still forgetting the millions of people that did not receive unemployment from the Feds August-December. It's unconscionable to not pay the retroactive benefits.
When the national economy is falling off the cliff during the global pandemic, it's a perfect time to continue discussing do we need to buy a parachute, what brand of parachute we need to buy, what quality the parachute should be, or maybe we will survive just by letting the economy to crash.
Love the pod! One vote here to turn on allow captions for accessibility. 🙃
The captions should be there - just hit the little CC button on the tool bar at the bottom of the frame. :)
awesome, they're back now.
Portman is a joke - I'm from Ohio.
Loving Lovett's shirt
Is it flowers?
So amazing this podcast they say it as is 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦♥️
The stimulus payment is based on income
I think it’s 75k and below for singles and 250k for couples. No one making 300k is getting a stimulus check! Come on guys
Susan Collins said her problem is that $1,400 goes to everyone, even Billionaires
Doesn't it only go to people making $75,000 or less?
That's her concern trolling. The checks have a salary limit on them like he previous two did and she knows it. She's just doing what she does best, gumming up progress for her own career.
@@TMAN-hw8ep The full amount goes to people who made $75,000 (single filers; it’s higher for joint filers) *in 2019*. It hasn’t been 2019 for a minute. If you made a hair over that, you get less. Not that any of this hits close to home or anything. 😕
I think that's valid. The first stimulus had to go out fast so a shotgun approach cut down the time debating who got a check. We've had months to come up with a better plan. I personally don't need a check because I immigrated to a less expensive country. I'll take a check but I certainly don't need one. My wife is working every day in zoom and our combined income is a little above poverty level in the Northeast states but we're doing fine.
It’s not going to billionaires??
**ANYONE MAKING $100,000 A YEAR,,, DOESN'T NEED A $1,400 CHECK,,,, LET'S START THERE!!!**
start taxing corporations again and pay for the relief package. corporations are having profits and that should stop....corporations that have been profiting from the pandemic should be taxed so that they pay for this relief package.
Its not as simple as just start taxing these corporations. Let’s get these businesses with millions to pay, i am with you.
On the flip side of that, we have seen in the past, once taxation gets out of hand for these greedy companies they take their businesses else where around the world.
@@YUNGDRAYK maybe a balance would be best. minimum taxation and corporate citizenship. can't sell us goods unless they balance with taxes. make it a minimum requirement to pay some tax if they want to sell to us. make it worth it to stay in us and be a corporate citizen. Make it so you can't donate to a campaign unless you pay some us taxes.
Rob Portman is probably retiring cuz i keep emailing him that i actively find people to vote against him. He should have voted different in the first impeachment.
Again: thank you guys for helping me keep my sanity. Love yall! My major concern is that Trump's impeachment trial will override the stimulus package along with the vaccine rollout.
EDIT: And what does Susan Collins mean by families making too much money? NO ONE is making a fucking nickel unless you're Bill Gates, Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos!!!🤬🤬🤬🖕🏿
Personally, I think an impeachment trial at this point is just lame. What do we want more, show our juvenile glee at further disgracing someone who's already left in disgrace or actually pushing forward with things like covid relief or stimulus checks? Also, think about the downside. If there aren't Republican votes to convict Trump, he campaigns again and rubs salt in the wound. Imagine how much people are going to hate hearing him say, "They tried to impeach me twice. They failed both times."
@@audioenthusiast2817 Exactly! Trump should be a C-list story. Not an A or B-list story. He's out of office & we should be more concerned about getting relief to the American public and get the vaccine rollout underway.
Some people definitely don't need the stimulus. Park the partisan rhetoric and use your brains. This is not free money. You're going to be paying it back the rest of your life and your children's lives. I personally don't want to give $2000 to someone who has been working during the pandemic and is making over $100,000 combined income. Do you really want to pay a debt for the rest of your life to pay for a case of good wine for a millionaire?
@@audioenthusiast2817 unfortunately there's not another way to send a message. I would be satisfied if the Republicans would agree on censure of his actions and ban him from politics. But can that happen without convicting him? idk
@@troyaturner1979 multitasking is possible. The trial is not going to take long and we need to close the door on Trump's political future. The Republican party needs to get rid of Trump or it's done, so it's more in their long term interest. But I'm okay with them trying to ride the Qanon MAGA tiger because eventually they'll fall off and be eaten. If they can't see where this is going then it's their problem, we don't need to save them so yeah, no biggie if they vote against impeachment imo
If it's true that even people making six figure incomes could qualify for checks, that needs to be removed. Take that money they would have gotten and use it on more necessary things.
Just pass whatever you can with budget reconciliation and put the $15 minimum wage up as a single line bill to see what compromise Republicans want to go with on raising the minimum. Also Doug on a mug is brilliant and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
The situation is simple: either open businesses and let people go back to work, or pay them to stay home
1400$ checks should not be going to anyone who is employed and makes over 100k...
We need to remove those tax cuts, remove all those raises those fools got. Remove all the pork belly spending. We need socialized medicine and deathcare. Check out ask a mortician and start making your congressmen accountable. They aren't concerned about the common person, they are rich and can only see dollar signs.
What do you call the economic "sticker shock" of too many small businesses failing and too many people falling into poverty or homelessness if sufficient aid is not passed now? Less jobs available and more people fighting for those available, or trying to lever themselves off the broken welfare system.
As far as Republicans and DINOs (Democrats In Name Only) are concerned, if Walmart, Amazon, etc. takes over everything and boosts up the billionaires that pad their pockets, the peasantry can, in theirs eyes, eff it.
@@geofflau4215 My apologies, I misread your comment the first time, Geoff. I agree with your post, as long as the insanely rich get to keep their $$$ & power, I think they do consider the rest like peasants who can just shut up & suck it, as far as they are concerned.
That's a good shirt Lovett!
Jon L., can you put your screen on the left closer in, because it’s really distracting how often you are looking off the the side. I love you and all the guys, and grateful for all you do!
balisue and please get rid of the Christmas Tree Shop curtains. Paper blinds from Lowes would be a better choice. And cheaper
They could make sure that people making S50,000 or more should not need $2,000 relief funds unless they have lost their jobs. People making 50-75k should get only $200. No relief to people making 76k or more. The minimum wage compromise should be $12.50/hr. That would free up some funds and make it more doable for employers.
Why the hell are we giving stimulus to people making $300K???
Yes better to be concerned about helping people than being concerned about trumps behavior.
Thankfully, the university where I work has been approved to vaccinate faculty, staff & students, but they have no vaccines yet. I’ve already submitted my form, so just waiting for the vaccines to arrive now.
Here's 3 things from HRH & 4 things from me that America needs to dump after Trump: 1. The Electoral College; 2. The Filibuster; 3. The Presidential Interregnum. 4. End Voter Disenfranchisement (maybe by Enacting Universal Mandatory Voter Registration?); 5. End Winner Take All (maybe 'Ranked Choice Voting' so candidates pander to moderates instead of extremist QAnons?); 6. End Gerrymandering (Have voters select politicians like in UK instead of politicians selecting voters like we do in US); 7. Stop The 2nd Class Citizenship of the Territories (Statehood for DC & a state that combines Puerto Rico & US Virgin Islands). America needs to say "Bye Felicia" to these undemocratic institutions.
These checks can be looked on a tax cut....temporary one. So GOP should like it.
They could raise taxes to help fund this. A fair number of very wealthy people got a significant windfall from the pandemic.
Rescinding the tax cuts that Trump pushed through
thought they could have made more of the car metaphor - e.g. let's buy a car but it's too expensive, so let's not get the brakes, headlights or a steering wheel.
and if the republican president had done his job - we wouldn't need to buy this car.
Great seeing this. Things are Improving slow now. See you soon then.
Would this be possible. Have each item voted on separately. 2000 dollar stimulus, vote. Unemployment benefits, vote. Vaccines, vote. Raise minimum wage, vote. Get things going.Each item would have everyone on record For the People to know or NOT to vote for next election.
Try and negotiate with Trumpers - You got to be kidding me. lmao
I like Lovett's Checks and Covid better. I'm a sucker for alliteration
My CA taxes went way up under T--. Some folks didn’t believe me but it’s for sure true. Happy to pay taxes for good reasons, but that felt personal.
Could someone explain why cheques are being mailed to people and there isn’t an option for direct bank transfer to speed up the process? (From New Zealand where it was almost exclusive bank transfer payouts due to covid, and everyone had money within a few days of them launching it)
They’re not. Most of it is direct deposit. Talking about checks is just a way of talking about it, the vast majority don’t use actual paper checks. Those that do are people who have elected to receive tax refunds that way, most likely because they don’t have a checking account.
Metaphorical checks, in reality most would receive the payments through direct deposit.
I received all stimulus checks as as a direct deposit. I believe if taxpayers filed their annual tax return online, a direct bank account information was included in the tax return WHICH permits future federal payments to be a direct deposit. Maybe a IRS expert can confirm my understanding that the majority receiptents receive direct deposits.
I so love your channel.
Thank you so much!
I love you guys, and almost always agree. In this case, I agree with some Republicans that we could do better at targeting aid to those who need it. I have not lost a job and have good health care; I don't need a check, and certainly think there are many others who don't. Making just that change could bring the price tag down.
Missing Rod Serling
Love you guys
The point is: Why be bipartisan?
No one who isn't already onboard with these policies will bother to understand the details, and Republicans have already demonstrated that their brief moment of clarity after the riot will not stick. Its not being noble by offering these horrible people a larger share of the voice, its betraying the will of the voters.
It’s not about principle, it’s about tactics. The democrat majority is razor thin - fostering goodwill with persuadable republicans and moderate democrats is the difference between getting stuff done and 4 years of complaining.
It will never happen, but I would love to see a law suspending congress' and the president's salaries when national unemployment claims reach a certain number. I understand the majority of these representatives of "the people" have more money than most Americans could ever dream of, but sometimes a meaningless gesture is better than nothing. It might at least force a discussion on the record addressing the disconnect between economic realities of Americans versus Congress.
Very good conversation. I agree about comments about what happened to republicans party but also think the Democratic Party is splitting between those who are democrats and socialists
Nope; the fever is NOT breaking, but rising ever higher. And yes, it is worrisome because for the democratic process to be viable, we do need AT LEAST a 2-party (really, we need 3 or possibly more) party system.
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The $15 minimum wage only applies to federal workers, correct?
Nope - this would be nationwide. Biden has the power to increase it for federal workers without Congress.
@@podsaveamerica oh, ok, thanks👍
I'm excited to see what Bernie will be able to do to help funding people in need and get at least PPE to people on the front lines 6:50 in terms of all the 140,000 jobs lost or 3M total job lost in Trump's presidency - when I toured the RECOLOGY recycling and composting facility in SF the manager said how rolling out similar recycling and composting infrastructure across the US would provide 1.5 million jobs, wouldn't that be a great way to tackle climate change while creating decently paid stable jobs and tackle those unemployment figures?!
How about ranked choice voting to separate out the ideologies that divide the GOP?
Targeted proposal to those who need it would get a lot more buy in from both sides. Is it impossible to have more targeted approach if we are to act swiftly?
It’s going to take some time before we get back to any kind of normal. Though we may have different definitions of it.
More and more debt ... this doesnt help us it only makes us go further into debt and increases taxes and inflation.... great plan
Explain nuclear option!
the point to try trumps is that the action began while he was srill in offie!!!.