THE RISE OF SKYWALKER REVISITED
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Beau, Aaron & Teddy revisit 'THE RISE OF SKYWALKER', episode 9 from the legendary (or maybe not so legendary anymore) Skywalker Saga!
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They revisit now!?
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If you look at this entire trilogy as the story of Kylo Ren trying to get a girlfriend and failing everytime until he finally succeeds in the third one, but he’s so shy from his first kiss with Rey that he dies from death, it makes it so much better.
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@@matrixmdog my favorite of his pickup lines was “You come from nothing. You’re nothing, but not to me”.
@@gabrielarredondo3825 this is so funny dude when I read the comment I just went back to the first time her met her man literally knocked her out and took her home 🤣🤣
@@matrixmdog And then his dad’s like, “Son, give it up. She doesn’t like you”. Then he’s like “Shut up, dad” and kills him. Then he yells “Traitor” at Finn, not because Finn left the First Order, but because his bro is stealing his girl.
This!
I’ve heard video essays say this movie is misunderstood but I almost want to say.. near objectively.. you can see the seams, it’s definitely a reactive movie. Highly corporate driven, nonsensical plots, nostalgia bait, marvel style humor (which is already old at the is point).
And like you said, clearly no uniform direction in three movies. It’s almost criminal how mishandles this property was. Actors were great though - I hate that ‘fans’ harass actors.
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The funniest part is when the knights of ren are just standing around in the desert
Knights of Ren absolutely wasted
I just pretend episide 7-9 don't exist and I'm happy
Good for you
Watching Rise of Skywalker again is like revisiting my earliest memories of going to the dentist:
*I was dreading going into it, and the whole time I was screaming internally*
A big problem with The Emperor coming back is that it ruins Anakin’s entire arc. He was the chosen one. He fell so far but did bring balance to the force in the end… sike Palpatine survived 🤷♂️
That's exactly what I was going to say.... It's a HUGE plot hole, or just disregard for the franchise
It's like when Jesus came back but if Jesus was space Hitler
On of the best things in TLJ was the whole " you are noone, you have no place in this story", and then they just ruined it in this movie.
I was about to do house chores and deciding on which music to listen to. Then notification of new NerdSoup video. Awesome!
You guys drop videos at the perfect time. Right when I needed to go to work you guys drop a dime, perfect timing!
John Boyega is such a fantastic actor and personality and these films just managed to waste him. I was excited for both Black characters, Finn and Jana. And they managed to fuck up the announcement of their characters in the exact same way. And then used that to kinda ruin a canonical OG Black character.
I was also excited for Kelly Marie Tran when they announced her. While I didn't really like what they did with her in The Last Jedi, I was absolutely livid by what JJ did to her in this film. And then just to give lines that could've gone to her to his friends! Dominic Monahan didn't need to say anything.
The one thing it did correctly was introduce Babu Frik.
"Why you simpin' on this maximum level?"
8:15
I chortled.
As a trilogy the sequels are so bad, I don’t think anyone disagrees as each film feels so disconnected from the one before. Still don’t know how Palps survived? Is Rey a clone or grandchild? So dumb
What do you mean? They clearly explained how Creamy Sheeve came back, they said he did it “somehow”
@@nickentros guess that’s all we will ever get.
It is explained in the movie. His spirit transferred to his clone body but it couldn't handle that kind of power so he couldn't leave his lair.
@@MatiZ815 that was definitely not explained in the movie
@@nickentros To me it obviously was. The moment I saw the Snoke clones in the tank I knew he was a clone and by the end of the movie the spirit transferring was explained and why he couldn't leave the lab.
Hux admitting he was the spy was actually the ONLY thing I like in this travesty. "I don't care if we lose-- I just don't want Kylo Ren to WIN." I'm sorry, but that was a great line and pretty much sums Hux up as a sniveling self-absorbed twat. Which, actually, is a hard character arc to do well.
Yeah
The whole sequel trilogy is Palpatine winning in the end. He kills off the Skywalker bloodline, and usurps its legacy as his own i.e. Rey calling herself a Skywalker at the end.
They should have just brought in Darth jar jar for this movie instead of resurrected Palpatine. Just lean all the way into the shark jumping.
Do Arcane next!! Truly a 10/10.
The fact that this series had no plan should be inexcusable and should have been grounds for Kathleen Kennedy never having another job in Hollywood. Instead she continues to fail upward
On average like once per 10 min I was putting shit in the "yeah ok, sure" part of my brain. Then that part of my brain got so heavy with bullshit that it's like ok I can't suspend disbelief anymore, this is bullshit lol.
Thanks guys. You rock. You’re always pretty generous, but there are times when something has to be called out for the failure it is so that we can learn from it.
The only star wars related thing I will never watch again
Next can y’all discuss whether if this movie and the other sequels should be removed from cannon/retconned ?
FYI, @NerdSoup : they took the Guinness quote from A New Hope where he says to R2, “…don’t be afraid.” And they took the “Rey” verbiage of the word afraid, that’s why it sounds awkward, but I totes agree with you
The "Rey Palpatine theory" video is one of your most successful videos ever, you guys! 😅
One could say you really called it, beforehand! While most people's theories come and go, all eventually ending up in that TH-cam rubbish bin of wrongness lol you guys got it right.
But, just knowing, accidentally or not, what's most likely to happen doesn't mean you necessarily agree with the decision, I suppose.
(Just pointing it out! ✌)
They tried to make a new story while telling the old story. They reverted luke back to a whiny teenager, Han back to a smuggler, and leia back into a single minded general. Luke had faith in Vader, who killed millions. But was ready to kill his nephew over a fever dream? And this movie had no stakes. Chewys dead, NeverMind. C-3PO’s minds wiped, no it’s not. Rey’s dead, no she’s not. She beat grand master Luke in combat with no Jedi training. I could go on, but yea. Sequels are unimaginative money grabs
In the time leading up to TROS release, even though I never went looking for any of the leak information, sometimes you can barely help hearing some things. I remember thinking there's simply NO WAY that they would totally switch the whole "Rey's parentage" thing, because in doing so, it would be blatantly showcasing the fact that they think Rian Johnson fucked up, that it'd be throwing him under the bus. like even if they thought this, they'd never actually do it because it would reflect badly on filmmaker/studio relations. Especially given the fact that Johnson was the one director they DIDN'T have any problems with during the whole production of any of their post-2015 deal movies! literally every other movie there was some degree of behind the scenes drama on, some to the point of replacements being made, except The Last Jedi, the shoot went smoothly. So when I finally saw the movie, and that they practically put a giant neon sign around the change, I was like woah thats kinda fucked up. They really did RJ dirty.
He did star wars dirty then got angry when people literally in 24 hours shit on the movie and TROS made money too Reylos got mad sending out death threats etc. so guess entire fandom is just toxic much like RJ
Can’t they just get all the ones involved in The Mandalorian to do the actual movies. That is the only thing they have managed to do well so far and he is not even a canon based character
They fly now
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You guys all need to man up and get together to review the Star wars Christmas special! Do it!
Your defense for The last Jedi is funny.
What really stinks with Poe too is Oscar Isaac has said Latino actors don’t ONLY know how to play villains or gangbangers. But then Poe’s past is revealed to be a spice runner, the SW equivalent of drugs. The irony of casting a great actor like Oscar Isaac as (initially) just a badass resistance pilot, and also a former drug runner? Tragic.
I’m sick of that trope too. Someone needs a criminal but redeemable past? DRUGS
Man what if we got a trilogy staring Ahsoka and Luke. That'd be neat
It’s like they didn’t read the rest of the story after force awakens and just pieced something together from what they remembered about the series
it doesnt take a marketing genius to see Rian Johnson will never be in charge of a star wars production again and they will *never* admit to this ,this probably extends to JJ.Abrams too.
On opening night I was watching this soulless piece of garbage and on the last line of rey sky walker I actually laughed out our in my theater for just how bad it was.
You weren't the only one. I laughed three times in the wrong moments. I wanted to walk out...
@@lukeluke333lukeluke i dam near did walk out several times but we were in a fancy theater for opening night and I was a little under the influence and needed my friend to drive me home. Very glad I was drunk on my first viewing hahahahah
@@patriot459 I had pretty low expectations and it blow them away in the worst way imaginable.
Also. Its the only star Wars movie I haven't rewatched. I don't like last Jedi but watched it a second and third time to see if my opinion would change. Honestly. It got worst each time I watched it...
Worst thing Disney Star Wars did was not take the chance to give us a scene with the Luke Han Leia trio when they had the chance(s)
It's unbelievable that each movie in the sequel trilogy ruined Luke, Han and Leia by tarnishing their character arcs and killed them off one by one.
Very much enjoyed this revisit. In The OG Trilogy the greatest thing was the chemistry of the cast. When the cast was sperated and then reunited it was always emotional in some way. I think with this new trilogy they could have had that with Rey, Finn and Poe but after TLJ they just lost it. Adam Driver is the best thing in this trilogy and I will rewatch this Movie just for Kylo's transitions to Ben. He is only fully Ben for a short time but you see the change. When he pulls the light saber out of the force and does that shrug. Best moment.
i'm sorry to say i agree with red letter media when they said that daisy felt like she was done with the franchise in this film
Are you guys doing westworld S4, or will that be a whole season video? Have been waiting for you guys to jump back in
A stinking shit pile of a movie. I have mixed feelings on TFA and TLJ, but this movie was just a disappointment all around.
Why would anyone like this on the FIRST time around? I walked out of the theatre hating all of it.
ive fallen asleep during a lot of films, im old its no reflection on them, but if you were to go back to 1980 and see young me in the cinema watching the empire strikes back with my sis and told me in the future a star wars film will be the first film you walk out on i just wouldnt of beleived you i mean how can this be that bad....
Say what you want about the prequel trilogy, when George Lucas sat down to write it, he first and foremost made a point to make it as distinct and different from the o/t as possible!
There were completely new worlds, environments, creatures, droids, characters and (arguably most importantly) vehicles, etc.
Absolutely everything was fresh, and new.
With these sequels it's nothing but slightly updated versions of everything we've all already seen before. (Particularly derivative of the original trilogy.)
Slightly different X-Wings, Tie Fighters, a bigger Imperial Walker. A bigger, updated Death Star.
We may have had to suffer with Jar Jar lol but at least the movies we were watching took a whole new bold, fresh direction!
While STILL managing to keep it all planted firmly within the established Star Wars Galaxy.
You could see, if you squinted real hard, how the starships would eventually evolve into what we saw in the original trilogy, throughout the prequels.
But, if they didn't have lightsabers, Jedi, and a few other basic fundamentals like hyperspace, blasters, etc., there would have been very little to nothing to tell you were watching events taking place within the same cinematic universe.
That's one of my biggest issues with this most recent batch of; "Skywalker Saga," films.
That it's a really lazy, scattered, Chris Terrio of a "story," leaning almost entirely on an aesthetic, down to the smallest detail, like every little thing, that had to be derivative of what came before.
Nothing fresh, nothing new. Unimaginative, uninspiring, and wholly underwhelming, as a result.
And I honestly tried enjoying them all. Seriously arguing with myself on the way home lol finding myself defending what I'd just witnessed.
And, the proof is that; while I can still rewatch both the original and prequel trilogies endlessly, (as well as the animated Clone Wars and Rebels series both, Solo and Rogue One,) I STILL can't bring myself to try watching any of the sequel films, no matter how hard I try.
Beau is right, when he says The Rise of Skywalker is essentially just a corporate, soulless money grab.
It really makes one wonder, after this in addition to the a couple recent DC universe films, why ANYONE would continue to call Chris Terrio to write a script lol ever again!
(Not exactly a; "winning" track record!)
(I'm just sayin' ✌️)
JJ made a movie,not very original but a solid beginning. Rion did the follow-up and got rid of JJs outline. They bring JJ back because Rion was too divisive. They should have split this into 2 parts. The movie sucks,but there was almost no way anyone could retcon the previous movie and tell a new story all in one film.
Then don't retcon the previous movie
Finn got shafted so hard
Teddy only states he has just had a kid so people congratulate him, so there’s that.
Can we all agree that the sequel trilogy are bad films and even worse a non cohesive series? Rian caused the plane to crash and JJ was unable to save the passengers by landing
Lol what does it say that you guys get it right on your second review years later?
I recently rewatched your 1st review and I wish I knew what you guys were smoking then.
Are we not getting any Stranger Things 4 or Westworld season 4 videos? I know they reviewed those shows when Season 3 happened.
Stg if they go back to the OT era again instead of an Old Republic movie
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The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker are both deeply flawed, but at least Rise is a more watchable, fast-paced ride when you turn part of your brain off. TLJ is so painful to sit through. And I don't care, the Kylo/Han scene and Leia's death were really well done (Driver is awesome), as was Luke's appearance and raising the X-wing and Rey vs Kylo on the DSII. Plus, Poe actually getting some better scenes that made sense for his character was really nice, too. Finn should have been a Jedi by the third film leading a stormtrooper rebellion, but TLJ trashed his character completely so Rise didn't have time to develop it.
Yeah. I don't think Last Jedi is an abomination of cinema like a lot of haters make it out to be, but dear lord it's such a slog to get through because of the sheer amount of cynical nothingness that happens for a good chunk of it. Rise of Skywalker is at least fast paced and fun.
i did't cut myself from the force. it's strong in ep. IV, V and VI.. and some nice videogames
You guys keep referring to Rian Johnson's plan. What plan ?? He left nothing to build on.
Love your Content. Are you guys going to cover West World?
I know its all personal opinion but I'm glad you guys are not drinking the kool-aid anymore. As soon as I found out Palpatine was in this, I knew it would be terrible. This movie isn't even fun were you're not sober. Idk how jj isn't massively embarrassed by this.
Also the messaging was all over the place. The movie shows Rey coming to terms with who she is and where she comes from, Palpatine. Only for her to throw that out and call herself Skywalker at the end. Also the whole romance triangle was super dumb and forced.
You mean disrespected Chewy the whole FRANCHISE! Still pissed he didn’t get a medal🏅#justice4chewy
Do “The good the bad the ugly”
So does this mean we’re not getting a Stranger Things 4 review?
Oh boy
Watching this on my break at Burger King 🫥
Wasn't in to the Palpatine thing, but otherwise I really enjoyed it. I'd watch a sequal movie before the OT at this point. Partially from the amount of times I've watched the OT. Lol I love everything Star Wars. Not trying to hate on anything.
What did you really enjoy about it?
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As a fan of The Last Jedi I appreciate the honesty.
I don't have any energy to describe how bad this movie. Its really a soulless movie that does nothing but ruining the original trilogy. I won't lie. The youtube videos bashing this movie are more entertaining the anything the movie does. There is a nice video that describe how I feel in terms of the sequel trilogy. Its called "Disney's Anti-Trilogy". It not bashing the movies but it explains the reason it doesn't work as a trilogy.
Rise of Skywalker is the game of thrones season 8 of star wars. Fan service wins out over story and consistency.
To the people who think this trilogy will have some sort of cult following like the prequels have, you're delusional.
Oh no
This film is meh until the lightsaber fight between Ray an kylo ren.
I think they had a lot cool ideas that could have made those series great but they retreated on them
Why they didn't just delay this movie by a year to let the new writer and director do their thing properly is beyond me.
The beginning soliloquy; perfectly described my feeling toward this movie. It’s just complete white noise.
Saw it in theaters, never will see it again, it is truly a pointless movie.
We didnt need TROS to be good we just needed RJ KK and Disney to loose
Maaaan you guys are harsh on this movie lol. Personally, I think it's a million times better than TLJ. At least there was decent action & solid lightsaber fights here, whereas TLJ had basically 2 fights & destroyed Luke as a character. .
I don't blame this movie itself, so much as the 2 that led up to it. I don't really see how anyone could stick the landing in the 3rd film with how polar opposite TFA & TLJ were with no plan. By this point, I just wanted at least a fun Star Wars movie & this movie was at least that imo.
This movie was awful but it never really had much of a chance of being very good. Most of the problems with this movie stem from Episodes 7 and 8. That being said, it still could have been better. If they insisted on bringing in a big bad guy to redeem Kylo (and since the previous 2 movies did little to build him as a legit threat to Rey), then they should have either gone with someone new (yes I know they already had someone new that they killed off in the last movie) or Darth Plagueis. I think fans could have accepted Plagueis surviving much easier than Palpetine since we only heard about his death with very little details. We didn't see him get thrown down a shaft and then see the Death Star get blown up with him presumably still on it.
HA still no thor review
It had to be kylo and rey in love and not rey and finn because the movie wouldn't be sold in China otherwise
This remains, hands down, the single dumbest movie I have ever seen. Before this movie I didn't think a movie could actually be insultingly bad, but this movie is insultingly bad. I'm a middle of the road Star Wars fan, I liked 2/3rds of TLJ, but this... this made me lose respect not just for the franchise but also every bit of respect for JJ Abrams as a director. At least it gives me something to point to for the dumbest thing a mega-corporation has done in a succinct and easier to explain way. It's become my go-to for certain topics, so at least it's not totally devoid of value, just of intelligence and integrity.
Rian Johnson is a better director for visuals and for getting actors to perform well emotionally, but he is the worst at pacing and plot. He should never have been trusted with writing a screenplay, but could have done well with something written by someone else.
I love hearing people shit on Rise of Skywalker, because that’s the one that finally did it for me, pushed me over the edge. I used to be a major Star Wars fan. I actually even really liked The Last Jedi. But after Rise of Skywalker… I lost all interest in Star Wars. They killed it for me. It was awful Hollywood cliche super hero shlock.
Even with all it's flaws I still really enjoy this movie and it's better than The Last Jedi, I'm a Rey fan and Kylo is overrated
ASMR qualities though?
Rise of Skywalker was dawgshit
Can someone tell him it’s Palpatine and not Papletine
I love Teddy
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Can you guys review more good movies
for me the new trilogy is still the best SW trilogy :)
It's a bunch of great concepts that individually are very interesting but without setup and structure it doesn't work...
The Last Jedi is a good flick on its own but then you have to shoehorn in all these ideas in TRoS..
The Last Jedi also undercuts every other film in the franchise but I digress...
No cohesiveness through this trilogy.
Basic writing concepts totally ignored to ruin a great franchise.
This will be the next generation's prequels this will be meme gold in 10 years. That's how stupid the dialogue is and the story and everything else. Horrible ending to a promising trilogy
This movie is bad because Last Jedi is a terrible Star Wars movie
Exactly
Gee it's almost as if Kathleen Kennedy doesn't know what she's doing...who would have thought?
Rey and Poe fight constantly for NO reason. Finn was thrown to a side story, again. Boring "space chase". Horrible lightsaber choreography. Wasted characters. Stupid story. Multiple resurrections for no reason. I HATE THIS FUCKIN MOVIE!!!!!
I hated the Last Jedi and I enjoyed this film
Stranger things season 4 review please! Would love to hear your guys thoughts
Given how bad and disrespectful Last Jedi was, I truly believe this movie was as best it could be because it HAD to undo Last Jedi. Any other option and following through with things set up in Last Jedi would have been much much worse
I feel the same way Last Jedi is such crap
Why did you bother to do this?
Why’d you “revisit” this? Reopening old, healed wounds. All of Disney’s Star Wars involvement needs to be FORGOTTEN. Kathleen Kennedy & JarJar Abrams destroyed the most beloved franchise in American cinema.
This movie was awful, but still better than the last jedi.