@@matthewbrown3420 Some had louder motors and compressors than others, doors would clatter shut on some and on others they'd almost stick half way. Some seemed to have louder creaks and groans as they got older. A few seemed to have that extra oomph on the outer sections. There were even small details such the guard to driver communication bell sounding clearer on some. I guess some of the above could be down to driving style but not all of it. My favourite was one particular unit where the guard had to thump the control panel at each station to get the pilot light to illuminate!
@@tome8677 Come to think of it the traction motors were louder on some carriages than others. The louder ones sounded a lot like a Metropolitan line A stock don't you think? I think the A stock traction motors were just a more powerful version of the 59/62 traction motors with different gearing.
notice the lack of hustle alarm, and the fact the doors would never quite close in sync due to the amount of times they were held open by the punters!!!
Yes, quite a few have been preserved. I bought driving car 1304 and had her in my garden for a few years and did some restoration before selling her on. I find the video wonderfully nostalgic, obviously made 1998 or 9 as you can see the new trains. 1304 is I believe alive and well, let`s hope she runs again one day.
2:13 is a sight you just cant forget. The wood surrounds of the windows. The guards equipment at one end. That moquette. The wooden slatted flooring. The hanging balls to hold to lol. And all the while outside the train, a London thats lost to memory. Thank goodness there's people with foresight like you, that video'd all this stuff when it was still in service. The heritage trains are lovely but don't have the grit and grime of the reality that was.
At 1:06 for those surprised to see 3 tunnel mouths, the left hand one is a shuntneck, only approximately one carriage in length. It enables trains to move from the depot to the station
It's the distinctive two tone hum from the motors that I remember so well and loved as a kid in the '70s and '80s. A very warm sound. And I remember the floor and window frames. I must have been in a '38 stock too at least once.
@@matthewbrown3420 While the A Stock sounded very much like the 1962 TS, I hated the high-backed transverse seating, they should have been given predominantly low backed longitudinal seating as with the 1962 TS; but I loved the ambiance of the original A Stock interiors.
1959 stock is so unique! I mean, I like 1995 stock but they don't have that personality that '59 stock do have. How I wish to be able to step back on time and travel all along the Northern line on that time when there was trains of '72 MkI and '59 stock.
@mikekellyvouharte , i managed to salvage the cab contents and guards panal from 1962 tube stock units DM'S 1678/1679 ,built them back as near as possible to original condition into a cab simulator, after aquiring the bits and pieces from LUL where the cars were down at the M.O.D in shoeburyness essex .
I am guessing this was filmed in 1998, which was when the 95 stock gradually replaced the 59/62 stock. The 72 stock were the first to go as there were only ever about 30 of them.
Most of the mk1 1972 stock was chopped off the Northern line. A few were kept and reformed as half units with the mk2s on the Bakerloo line as one train as well as complete trains refurbished and converted to driver only operation. Some mk1 cars were tweaked and incorporated into the 1967 stock but placed in the middle as they did not have automatic driving equipment.
The Stabling Lamp on the 1962 Stock is on the left of the headlights, whereas it’s on the right for the 1959 stock. Also the 1962 Stock has a red stripe above the Drivers J Door
@myrickstargames Just to let you know the Redbirds were built with thinner steel compared to the cars retired in the 1980s, which is why they started rusting by the early 2000s. As a matter of fact someone who works for the MTA told me that one of the work cars he helped scrapped had not one bit of rust on it and it was already 50+ years old. These 1959 Stock cars are cool especially in that silver colored paint scheme.
I am a native Londoner of 49 years, but I also love the old NYC Subway Redbirds. The Underground trains in this video were made of Aluminium of about 4mm thickness. For the first 15+ years they were aluminium coloured, but due to oxidation they turned a very light shade of grey which looked more white.
The last train withdrawn was in January 2000. At the time, London Transport didn't have the funds that TfL have now to extend the life of rolling stock.
Not a lot of other railway companies have use for the old trains. Because they can opt for something newer which is sometimes cheaper. A couple of these have been preserved, including a full 4 car unit that’s currently at Finmere
This footage looks alot older than 2010! ...I guess that's when it was uploaded but not filmed. 1959 stock were withdrawn in the late 90's.....1998?? ...so that means this footage is at least 1998. But it looks more like sometime in the 80's.
What do you think would happen if a swollen fart landed on one of the conductor rails?, considering that farts are pre-filled with highly pressurised air and gas 😂
I agree with you; I was born in July 1974 😊, so I got to travel extensively on old Underground trains, including on pre WW2 ones; you would have loved the CO/CP and R Stocks on the District Line
Get lost!. The corporate livery doesn't look right on old Underground trains. I preferred the unpainted aluminium livery; plus the short lived LT Bus Red livery applied to the CO/CP and 1938 TS.
These old workhorses had such great character. Each one ran slightly differently from the next. I have many happy memories of riding them.
In what way did each one ride differently? Them and the A stock and the 38 stock were the best. Same family of trains.
@@matthewbrown3420 Some had louder motors and compressors than others, doors would clatter shut on some and on others they'd almost stick half way. Some seemed to have louder creaks and groans as they got older. A few seemed to have that extra oomph on the outer sections. There were even small details such the guard to driver communication bell sounding clearer on some. I guess some of the above could be down to driving style but not all of it. My favourite was one particular unit where the guard had to thump the control panel at each station to get the pilot light to illuminate!
@@tome8677 Come to think of it the traction motors were louder on some carriages than others. The louder ones sounded a lot like a Metropolitan line A stock don't you think? I think the A stock traction motors were just a more powerful version of the 59/62 traction motors with different gearing.
@@tome8677 Some great points that brought back many memories of the tube from those days.
@@matthewbrown3420 The louder motors and compressors were from the 1962 TS units added to the 3-car 1959 TS units
notice the lack of hustle alarm, and the fact the doors would never quite close in sync due to the amount of times they were held open by the punters!!!
I grew up with these trains, having lived near Old Street when I was younger. The Tube has never quite been the same since they went.
I agree as I use to commute from old street to angel in mid 90s I miss the old 1959 & 72 stock trains hate the new stock.
@@mitchellgiffard1978 I thought I was the only one that doesn't like them.
Wow - the thumps, clonks, rattles and whines really stand out!
Yes, quite a few have been preserved. I bought driving car 1304 and had her in my garden for a few years and did some restoration before selling her on. I find the video wonderfully nostalgic, obviously made 1998 or 9 as you can see the new trains.
1304 is I believe alive and well, let`s hope she runs again one day.
2:13 is a sight you just cant forget. The wood surrounds of the windows. The guards equipment at one end. That moquette. The wooden slatted flooring. The hanging balls to hold to lol. And all the while outside the train, a London thats lost to memory.
Thank goodness there's people with foresight like you, that video'd all this stuff when it was still in service. The heritage trains are lovely but don't have the grit and grime of the reality that was.
Man I miss these :(
At 1:06 for those surprised to see 3 tunnel mouths, the left hand one is a shuntneck, only approximately one carriage in length. It enables trains to move from the depot to the station
Ever since I was a kid I always wanted to know where that tunnel went. Thanks on that!
Proper tube trains, well designed well built and stood the test of time. Sadly missed by me!
I used to love that noise from 4:38 - 4:53, dunno why
4:38
It's the distinctive two tone hum from the motors that I remember so well and loved as a kid in the '70s and '80s. A very warm sound. And I remember the floor and window frames. I must have been in a '38 stock too at least once.
These trains are very classic and very nice. I like all those old technical equipment.
I still miss the 1959 and 1962 stock to this day... they had such character. Brilliant video - thanks for sharing.
What about the A stock? Just a bigger version really.
@@matthewbrown3420 While the A Stock sounded very much like the 1962 TS, I hated the high-backed transverse seating, they should have been given predominantly low backed longitudinal seating as with the 1962 TS; but I loved the ambiance of the original A Stock interiors.
1959 stock is so unique! I mean, I like 1995 stock but they don't have that personality that '59 stock do have.
How I wish to be able to step back on time and travel all along the Northern line on that time when there was trains of '72 MkI and '59 stock.
Lewis DSD 62 stock was pretty much identical
1995 stock is about 40 years newer
These were JUST about when I was going around on the tube as a kid. Happy I found them again!
I love that noise they make as they are just about to depart
@mikekellyvouharte , i managed to salvage the cab contents and guards panal from 1962 tube stock units DM'S 1678/1679 ,built them back as near as possible to original condition into a cab simulator, after aquiring the bits and pieces from LUL where the cars were down at the M.O.D in shoeburyness essex .
It's really nice to see how similar the map looked back then to now. Not much has changed on the Northern Line.
I am guessing this was filmed in 1998, which was when the 95 stock gradually replaced the 59/62 stock. The 72 stock were the first to go as there were only ever about 30 of them.
There was also 3 trains of 1956 Stock, but they were scrapped in 1995 I believe and replaced by surplus 1962 Stock
I like the microphone handle 3:38, does anybody know is there any servicing trains still have this kind of handle?
Thanks for this. I used to love these old trains--clumpety-cump!
Most of the mk1 1972 stock was chopped off the Northern line. A few were kept and reformed as half units with the mk2s on the Bakerloo line as one train as well as complete trains refurbished and converted to driver only operation.
Some mk1 cars were tweaked and incorporated into the 1967 stock but placed in the middle as they did not have automatic driving equipment.
Omg. It's even louder than the c stock
Daniil Trokhimenko oh no the C stock is he loudest of all trains
Daniil Trokhimenko As long as you don’t mean car 5707
I am no training enthusiast , but this makes me cry
Do you mean train enthusiast?
+EddyQTen damn auto correct
CanadianMaster1 Don't worry mate.
You can tell the door compressor on a 59 stock sounds slightly older and different to a 62 stock which sounds more like the Metropolitan line A stock.
This footage looks very pristine, where was it being stored?
Some impressive arcing at 1:07. At 2:16, it sounds like it is shaking itself to pieces!
Imagine what would happen if a swollen fart landed on one of the conductor-rails? 😳
Some 1962 stock from the Central Line were transferred to join the 1959 and get rid of 1972 MKI stock on the Northern line.
John Showemimo what did they look like?
CanadianMaster1 couldnt tell as 59 and 62 looked identical
The Stabling Lamp on the 1962 Stock is on the left of the headlights, whereas it’s on the right for the 1959 stock. Also the 1962 Stock has a red stripe above the Drivers J Door
2:02 that level boarding is better than most modern trains
Stunning footage
@myrickstargames
Just to let you know the Redbirds were built with thinner steel compared to the cars retired in the 1980s, which is why they started rusting by the early 2000s. As a matter of fact someone who works for the MTA told me that one of the work cars he helped scrapped had not one bit of rust on it and it was already 50+ years old. These 1959 Stock cars are cool especially in that silver colored paint scheme.
I am a native Londoner of 49 years, but I also love the old NYC Subway Redbirds. The Underground trains in this video were made of Aluminium of about 4mm thickness. For the first 15+ years they were aluminium coloured, but due to oxidation they turned a very light shade of grey which looked more white.
My brother use to go on these trains a lot.
much nicer than the shit we have today
Don't be mean! I like the 95 stock
Actually, I love the 1995 stock
january 28th 2000 was the last day the 1959 stock ran 1972 stock was usd to till end of 1999
How sad of them to scrap these classic trains. They could have been used on steam trains.
When were these removed? I was born in 1992 and just about remember using these sometimes when I was really young
The last '59 Stock ran in 2000.
@@martynthomas7486I was on the very last run!
Re my earlier comment. Definitely the 90's not 80's, as the new Northern line trains feature at one point. They came in around 1998.
When did you film these scenes?
during 1999 because at 4:16 The 1995 stock was parked next to those nasty 1959 stocks.
memories of London in the Swinging 60s!!😄 more effective in the tunnel tho😄
Why did tfl not upgrade them until the 1990s the northern line is the busiest
no funds to do so I suppose. They leave everything to fall apart before bothering to invest in anything.
BungleZippie the 59s and 72mk1 could still go for another 5 to 10 yrd if TfL fixed them up. the 72 mk2s are still working on the Bakerloo line.
Tfl wasn`t formed until 2001, which by then, all 59 ts had been withdrawn
The last train withdrawn was in January 2000. At the time, London Transport didn't have the funds that TfL have now to extend the life of rolling stock.
Noddy Mac hence why the 1972 mk2 are having life extension work done on them to keep them going for another 5 to 10 years
I've been on that train
Were the interiors on this train original or refurbished ?
They were updated a bit but lots of original features remained.
I hate that they scrap them why cant they sell it to somewhere they will be used.
Not a lot of other railway companies have use for the old trains. Because they can opt for something newer which is sometimes cheaper. A couple of these have been preserved, including a full 4 car unit that’s currently at Finmere
This footage looks alot older than 2010! ...I guess that's when it was uploaded but not filmed. 1959 stock were withdrawn in the late 90's.....1998?? ...so that means this footage is at least 1998. But it looks more like sometime in the 80's.
The last trains ran in November 2000. I was on the very last one.
This Was In 1992 Cool Stock
early ninetys 4 me hahaha good times secondry school
Do like the 95 stock, but think the 59 stock has things that the 95 stock does not.
i remember taking these trains as a young kid in the late 90s... :P
love the 1995 stock more though :D
@metadyneman ..and me!!!!!!!!!
What do you think would happen if a swollen fart landed on one of the conductor rails?, considering that farts are pre-filled with highly pressurised air and gas 😂
me to
Why was i born in the 2000s >:(
WHY GOD?
I agree with you; I was born in July 1974 😊, so I got to travel extensively on old Underground trains, including on pre WW2 ones; you would have loved the CO/CP and R Stocks on the District Line
👍
love that creaking noise
but it was good misery
PINNNNGGG....CLONNNK...TICK TICK TICK TICK
They would have looked much better in LU livery though
There was a 1959 stock in the LUL livery. I believe it was unit 1028 and 1043. Google it theres a few pictures
Get lost!. The corporate livery doesn't look right on old Underground trains. I preferred the unpainted aluminium livery; plus the short lived LT Bus Red livery applied to the CO/CP and 1938 TS.
NNever going to buy a digger sells