They are to some extent, since the designs were incorporated into the 1992 tube stock. Although built by BREL who built the Blue prototype, they took the styling from the Metro Cammel built Red and Green trains. The styling for the Blue Train ironically was used for the later Alstom (formerly Metro Cammel) 1995 and 1996 tube stock.
I saw this at the Neasden Depot and my friend John used to do market research on board to ask people what they thought. The train is in fact full of train spotters and tube nerds (like me) taking the short journey back and forth just to see what it's like, and people who seem to have wandered on inadvertently. (Hence all the little boys out with their dads, men with comb-overs and people taking pictures.)
@@lewisdsd They are crap and I can't wait till they get replaced with the ntfl. They are the most unreliable trains on the network and they get really damn hot in the centre
@@jonah6404 Yeah. It's kinda funny how I would prefer to be on a Bakerloo line train, almost 20 years older, than the Central line trains. At least the Bakerloo line doesn't try to roast you to death as much as the Central line does.
I know! I think the point was they just wanted to demonstrate and showcase the 'active' LED destination display to wow people back then (remember this was unheard of in 1986), and then back it up with pre-recorded announcements that would let any blind person know they were on the right train. Interesting that they used a female voice (which is the norm now across the network), and not some guy with a booming, plummy voice (as was the norm back in those days). At least it gave those people who agreed to travel on the test train, a taste of what LU would be like in the 21st century. I bet it blew their minds, but admittedly some did look abit scared!
Still kicking myself for missing that. I was at the LT Museum especially for the ride on the test train and I missed the last vintage bus shuttle to Aldwych for it, as I got a bit too engrossed watching a video screened at the museum.
As well as the Aldwych Branch not normally being open at weekends, the prototype 1986 Stock used to stay in the depot at weekends too, and not venture out onto the Jubilee Line, so this was a double bonus!!
An important thing to keep in mind, is that there were three types of the prototype trains, Red, Blue and Green. All three were different, with Red having the known livery of The Tube today, and green having the interior of today… not all trains were the same, in fact, Blue's exterior resembles the 1995 stock more, due to the slight taper down the side.
Yes, because this train usually ran on the Jubilee line where West Hampstead is a reversing station. The normal stock on the Aldwych branch was 1973 Piccadilly line stock.
in the late 60's I would buy a "Twin Rover" ticket and ride the underground on a saturday. I had travelled every line and visited every station including Aldwych. I also rode the Victoria line stock on its first outing when it was being tested between Woodford and Hainult on the central line. I always sat behind the guard in the last car. I wanted to be a guard and even went to LT to apply for the job. The entrance test was so insulting to ones intelligence that I walked out!
Its looks like something from a 'Sapphire & Steel' episode The passengers are totally aw struck by these very modern and highly advanced tube trains considering how primitive a lot of the then Tube stock trains were which were still running on the London Underwound at this time. These 1980s members of the public which were used as guinea pigs look like they've just walked onto a space ship. These scenes are somewhat very reminiscent of scenes on TV news clips in 1989 chronicling the fall of the Berlin Wall at the collapse of communism showing East Berliners being allowed to wonder into West Berlin for the first time and just marveled at all the modern technology and stylish shops they didn't see or have before or experienced under communism..
@bengo940 The 1986 stock operated on the Jubilee line between May '88 and August '89. They must have been playing the announcements here at Aldwych to demonstrate the facility
These trains are so well designed and if they were brought out now as they look here as new stock they would still look very 'modern' A taste of the future for the 1986 Tube passenger. They have that very characteristic 'brat' style profile. And ever so slightly resemble the 'mothercraft' from the 1970s cartoon 'The Sentinels' or the TV studio set for the quiz show 'Who Wants to be a millionaire'
The announcements were for the Jubilee line where these were tested for a lot of the time, so they were coded for Jubilee line stations such as West Hampstead
They were running the prototype on the Aldwych branch in connection with an event at the London Transport Museum that I went to. I lost track of time and missed the last run of the train. I think this was it’s last run in service, after being tested out on the Jubilee Line. Why didn’t this rake include the red carriage?
Old announcement at 1:46. "The next station is West Hampstead, where this train terminates. Change for: British Rail, North London, and Midland lines." It was said twice.
@mrtulala1 Might have not been a requirement then, but the DMI's are placed in impractical places for the 1986 stock as the train would become crowded and you wouldn't be able to see the DMI's from the middle of the carriage.
Incredible! The electric propulsion sounds similar to the STM MR63 jeumont or a Berlin U-Bahn type F87 and a little bit of the Baltimore Budd subway sets
WOW! Beautiful trains aren't! Look like a future of experimental trains is type of different colours. Is like red, green and blue of those trains! Awesome to find!!! What kind of different type of colour trains is?
@spartan117ism Yes, they were sort of prototypes for it so a choice could be made of which unit to use as the blueprint. In fact the red unit was chosen.
@EMMAWONDERLAND1 There was one train in each of red; blue and green, which were the prototypes for London Underground's red 1992 tube stock that has run on the Central line ever since new.
@EMMAWONDERLAND1 It was only possible to run a 4-car train on this little branch of the Piccadilly line, due to short platforms, so only 2 out of the 3 prototype 2-car units could run in this train.
WTF was wrong with the people at TFL deciding not to use the red 1986 stock on the central line? It looks better than the 2009 stock and thats amazing.
Unable to break British morale during the 1940s, it's good to see one Mr A. Hitler of Austria in 1989, taking a keen interest in how we defied his attempts. 7.54 - 8.28 (Gray jacket, red shoulders), those glasses nearly had me fooled! Seriously though, great and rare footage, thanks for sharing.
It's interesting that 3 prototypes were built. Out of that came the 92 t/s - probably the worst trains to be built for a deep level tube system. It just shows how good they are at throwing good money after bad.
Wow! That nice train it is... I'll never see this before... Where are they that train is? It's no finds looking for this train in London underground it is?
The 1992 stock is far better than that! I din't know why some people dislike them so much. The 1992's just need news seat covers and a little spruce up!
They are the prototype central and Waterloo and city line trains. The video shows what the central line trains are supposed to be, but they ran on the jubilee line with the red trains, but then they crashed so they are not using it anymore, so the 1992 stock train was then used .
***** Not too sure. After the Blue train was chosen, all 3 prototype trains saw service on the Northern and Jubilee lines. In 1993 one of them derailed and TFL were quick to pull them from service. My guess is that they were very much only Prototypes and were not planned to see so much service.
From what I understand, the train derailed just outside Stanmore station, so chances are it derailed over a set of points. I may be wrong, but that's what I think it was.
This train looks and sounds horrible. People knock the 1992 stock for its current state, but that's only due to neglect of the trains and line. I'm glad we have the current 1992 stock.
Wow it looks so modern. Especially inside. I love the displays. Looks a bit of Anachronism to watch this video. I wouldn’t bat an eye to see people sat in this with the latest iPhones and covid masks lol
Why is it twin stock can some body tell me And why is it green on the aldwych side and blue on the holborn sid Why does the green stock 2 cars And the blue stock has 4 This Is weird
They were 2 prototype units for the 1992 stock currently used on the central line. There was another red unit which isn't show here. They were tested on the Jubilee line until there was a derailment when they were on the Aldwych branch for a day (shown here) then were at Woodford for display.
I like this train, it's like being in some sort of alternate reality.
I don’t like it at all
I like it too
@@JackAndEmilyVids why?
@@5-Consecutive-Hairpin-Turns they just don’t look clean, weird noises and more
@@JackAndEmilyVids It was a Prototype, after all...
This train looks so cool. It could have still been around to this day.........
Yeah I agree
They are to some extent, since the designs were incorporated into the 1992 tube stock. Although built by BREL who built the Blue prototype, they took the styling from the Metro Cammel built Red and Green trains. The styling for the Blue Train ironically was used for the later Alstom (formerly Metro Cammel) 1995 and 1996 tube stock.
it was retired now
There is one at Acton museum depot, I’ve seen it
@@plaxtonpresident4629 only the green one
I saw this at the Neasden Depot and my friend John used to do market research on board to ask people what they thought. The train is in fact full of train spotters and tube nerds (like me) taking the short journey back and forth just to see what it's like, and people who seem to have wandered on inadvertently. (Hence all the little boys out with their dads, men with comb-overs and people taking pictures.)
These trains have led displays inside but the 1992 stock doesn't. That's bizarre
Dan Coleman Why people seems to not like the 1992 stock? :( I think they are awesome trains :o
@@lewisdsd They are crap and I can't wait till they get replaced with the ntfl. They are the most unreliable trains on the network and they get really damn hot in the centre
@@lewisdsd In fact, If it was up to me I would replace the 1992 stock trains before the others
@@jonah6404 Yeah. It's kinda funny how I would prefer to be on a Bakerloo line train, almost 20 years older, than the Central line trains. At least the Bakerloo line doesn't try to roast you to death as much as the Central line does.
The bakerloo line 1972 trains are soo unreliable.
strangest looking 'West Hampstead' station I've ever seen LOL!
I know! I think the point was they just wanted to demonstrate and showcase the 'active' LED destination display to wow people back then (remember this was unheard of in 1986), and then back it up with pre-recorded announcements that would let any blind person know they were on the right train. Interesting that they used a female voice (which is the norm now across the network), and not some guy with a booming, plummy voice (as was the norm back in those days). At least it gave those people who agreed to travel on the test train, a taste of what LU would be like in the 21st century. I bet it blew their minds, but admittedly some did look abit scared!
Still kicking myself for missing that. I was at the LT Museum especially for the ride on the test train and I missed the last vintage bus shuttle to Aldwych for it, as I got a bit too engrossed watching a video screened at the museum.
Likewise. I think you had to book tickets specially for it, and I didn't. Wish I had!
The interior looks quite nice.
all the 80s lads looking at the speaker "how futuristic"
and it's standard nowadays
Very nice, historically valuable video and a very good sound quality for 1989! Good work!
interesting prototype trainsets, and the historical footage from the late 1980s, 5/5.
12:30 of RIP 1983 stock
As well as the Aldwych Branch not normally being open at weekends, the prototype 1986 Stock used to stay in the depot at weekends too, and not venture out onto the Jubilee Line, so this was a double bonus!!
The was the past years ago, the 1986 stock was used on the Piccadilly line train services.
It's a 1983 tube stock (that used to run on the Jubilee line) towing the prototype train through Finsbury Park southbound Piccadilly line.
A huge nostalgia rush!! I wish I was back in the 1980's sometimes. It was the decade I grew up in and i loved it.
An important thing to keep in mind, is that there were three types of the prototype trains, Red, Blue and Green. All three were different, with Red having the known livery of The Tube today, and green having the interior of today… not all trains were the same, in fact, Blue's exterior resembles the 1995 stock more, due to the slight taper down the side.
No the green does because of the giant windows
8:27 I actually got nightmares in some nights based on those red lights
Looks like they are taking an 80s futuristic train to an secret experimental underground science laboratory
That looks beautiful. Looks ahead of its time from the 80's
The red unit looks pretty good, they can fit for the Waterloo and city lines
Yes, because this train usually ran on the Jubilee line where West Hampstead is a reversing station. The normal stock on the Aldwych branch was 1973 Piccadilly line stock.
Even though they "favoured" the blue version, the 1992 stock resembles the red and green versions more... lol
in the late 60's I would buy a "Twin Rover" ticket and ride the underground on a saturday. I had travelled every line and visited every station including Aldwych. I also rode the Victoria line stock on its first outing when it was being tested between Woodford and Hainult on the central line. I always sat behind the guard in the last car. I wanted to be a guard and even went to LT to apply for the job. The entrance test was so insulting to ones intelligence that I walked out!
Why can't they ever just put prototypes into production?! This train is considerably better than the 1992 stock it turned into!!
This is a really interesting high quality video, well done!
wow looks like something from an old doctor who episode
Love the old Footage 1986
yes the good old days
Good to see no one on their phones 📱
Mariko why
Ok boomer.
It was a joke....
I saw someone on a gameboy around 10mins in
It's people like you ruining my century.
Its looks like something from a 'Sapphire & Steel' episode The passengers are totally aw struck by these very modern and highly advanced tube trains considering how primitive a lot of the then Tube stock trains were which were still running on the London Underwound at this time. These 1980s members of the public which were used as guinea pigs look like they've just walked onto a space ship. These scenes are somewhat very reminiscent of scenes on TV news clips in 1989 chronicling the fall of the Berlin Wall at the collapse of communism showing East Berliners being allowed to wonder into West Berlin for the first time and just marveled at all the modern technology and stylish shops they didn't see or have before or experienced under communism..
This was filmed either in late 80s or early 90s but aldwhch station has been closed for 21 years now
Also I think the green unit design they used for the 1992 stock because maybe it looked better
mustve been great time. not a mobile phone, ipod, ipad laptop in sight
Don’t forget that the 1992 stock runs on the Waterloo and city line too !
@bengo940 The 1986 stock operated on the Jubilee line between May '88 and August '89. They must have been playing the announcements here at Aldwych to demonstrate the facility
@filthiestfish It was filmed on 11 March 1989 when this stock was running in service on Jubilee line.
These trains are so well designed and if they were brought out now as they look here as new stock they would still look very 'modern' A taste of the future for the 1986 Tube passenger. They have that very characteristic 'brat' style profile. And ever so slightly resemble the 'mothercraft' from the 1970s cartoon 'The Sentinels' or the TV studio set for the quiz show 'Who Wants to be a millionaire'
Love the interior!
THESE TRAINS NEEDS TO BE ON THE CENTRAL LINE
I know right
These should be at the London transport museum
only the green one remains
13:06 Love the 1983 Stock
this brings back memories
How come the announcements kept saying West Hampstead, when the train was only shuttling between Holborn and Aldwych?
The announcements were for the Jubilee line where these were tested for a lot of the time, so they were coded for Jubilee line stations such as West Hampstead
They were running the prototype on the Aldwych branch in connection with an event at the London Transport Museum that I went to. I lost track of time and missed the last run of the train. I think this was it’s last run in service, after being tested out on the Jubilee Line. Why didn’t this rake include the red carriage?
No room
Aldwych could only accommodate trains of 4 short cars or 3 longer cars
Old announcement at 1:46. "The next station is West Hampstead, where this train terminates. Change for: British Rail, North London, and Midland lines." It was said twice.
@mrtulala1 Might have not been a requirement then, but the DMI's are placed in impractical places for the 1986 stock as the train would become crowded and you wouldn't be able to see the DMI's from the middle of the carriage.
I would hate it to look like this again
The trains or how people dressed back then lol😉😉
@@toddhunter3137 lol
Incredible! The electric propulsion sounds similar to the STM MR63 jeumont or a Berlin U-Bahn type F87 and a little bit of the Baltimore Budd subway sets
Good ol’ chopper control motor. Very common with trains built around that time.
WOW! Beautiful trains aren't! Look like a future of experimental trains is type of different colours. Is like red, green and blue of those trains! Awesome to find!!! What kind of different type of colour trains is?
@spartan117ism Yes, they were sort of prototypes for it so a choice could be made of which unit to use as the blueprint. In fact the red unit was chosen.
why did it need to be piloted by a 1983 stock train?
it ran fine without 83 stock at Aldwych?
73 stock*
@EMMAWONDERLAND1 There was one train in each of red; blue and green, which were the prototypes for London Underground's red 1992 tube stock that has run on the Central line ever since new.
That's probably the first train in the world to have automated announcements and LED Displays.
@Yolticat The 1992 stocks look like the green 1986 Demonstrator tube stock
Except for the face
And the 2009 stock
why 12:33 is 12 March 1989 , the 1986 stock for scrap?
I wonder if this train is still operational. It hasn’t run on tracks in 30 years.
There's only 1 car of the green train left at the Acton Town museum
It’s funny that the announcements are wrong “ The next station is West Hampstead “ 😂😂😂🤣😂
Also, nice video before 1986 Tube stock and Aldwych station was gone.
@EMMAWONDERLAND1 It was only possible to run a 4-car train on this little branch of the Piccadilly line, due to short platforms, so only 2 out of the 3 prototype 2-car units could run in this train.
12:30 So the train could run on it own, fine on the Aldwych Branch, but had to piloted by 1983 stock over the rest of the Picc Line?
@hakc97isback Because this train normally ran on the Jubilee line where West Hampstead is a reversing point for short working trips
WTF was wrong with the people at TFL deciding not to use the red 1986 stock on the central line?
It looks better than the 2009 stock and thats amazing.
Central Line 1992 Tube Stock
Thats the 1986 stock, the prototype of 1992 stock
From the outside they look like the current Central line trains!
Unable to break British morale during the 1940s, it's good to see one Mr A. Hitler of Austria in 1989, taking a keen interest in how we defied his attempts. 7.54 - 8.28 (Gray jacket, red shoulders), those glasses nearly had me fooled! Seriously though, great and rare footage, thanks for sharing.
It's interesting that 3 prototypes were built. Out of that came the 92 t/s - probably the worst trains to be built for a deep level tube system. It just shows how good they are at throwing good money after bad.
Why??
@spartan117ism Maybe they used some features from more than one prototype (colour / design, etc) for the 1992 stock
This would have sparked a brief increase in people using the Aldwych service, briefly
why arent their dot matrix displays on 92 ts when they are on the prototypes :/ ?
Hello there 9 years later, the 92 stocks will get a dot matrix when getting upgraded in that major refurbishment programme comes in eventually
@DeanieBoi07 lol, i do think the exterior and interior of some 1986 stock look horrible. However, the interior of the red 1986 stock looks alright.
@bengo940 a mistake as i hear the DVA might have been able to do announcements for the Jubilee Line
The counterpart to the r110 in New York
@bengo940 I'm not a fan of much of it to be honest, but the green carriage is the design they used to make the current 1992 stock.
wonder what became of these do they just scrap it when done?
It's not scrapped, however, is being taken British railway museum, as usual, will save them.
Isn't this the '92 stock which we see on the Central and Waterloo & City lines?
+Sion Lewis Nope
Prototype 92 stock?
+Sion Lewis that's right
Took them a while to finally introduce it into service proper lol
Sion Lewis more punctual than the arrival of the 800 class mainline trains, at least >.>
1986 people in a 2000 train.
1992
@Yolticat But where the red prototypes service train to ride is?
Yeah Eddie Turner . He would run with Captain Birdseye . They managed to derail that train shortly afterwards 😅
Wow! That nice train it is... I'll never see this before... Where are they that train is? It's no finds looking for this train in London underground it is?
This train is sadly here no more, but similar is on the Central line to this day!
Yolticat How disppointed this train is no find where sense it is! I wish to ride this only once enjoy for a day!!! Pretty disppointed it is... 😔
You can get a guided tour of Acton town depot where you might see it
@PostTower thanks!
The 1992 stock is far better than that! I din't know why some people dislike them so much. The 1992's just need news seat covers and a little spruce up!
They are the prototype central and Waterloo and city line trains. The video shows what the central line trains are supposed to be, but they ran on the jubilee line with the red trains, but then they crashed so they are not using it anymore, so the 1992 stock train was then used .
Aldwych? The Piccadilly Line Station? But you said Central Line
The trains were prototype Central line trains, but that day only they worked on the Aldwych branch of Piccadilly line.
Yolticat They were then used on the Jubilee line and derailed, thus giving us the 1992 stock lol
Almost.
The 1986 stock there were 3 made and a public vote chose the 1992 stock to be based on the Blue train. It derailed in 1993.
*****
Not too sure. After the Blue train was chosen, all 3 prototype trains saw service on the Northern and Jubilee lines. In 1993 one of them derailed and TFL were quick to pull them from service. My guess is that they were very much only Prototypes and were not planned to see so much service.
From what I understand, the train derailed just outside Stanmore station, so chances are it derailed over a set of points. I may be wrong, but that's what I think it was.
Aldwych isn't a "ghost station" it's still used by film teams and other events like this.
@Yolticat Are they Demonstrators of 1992 stock
Look a lot like them I think
If the prototypes all had dot-matrix displays, why aren't there on the 1992 stock?
TFL doesn't want to waste time spending too much money installing LED displays
Central Line is to be like a motor train and it was the first London Underground train to have a announcer (probably)
This train looks and sounds horrible. People knock the 1992 stock for its current state, but that's only due to neglect of the trains and line. I'm glad we have the current 1992 stock.
Tell me, why this???
@@DANEBLUEGNOME the video was to show what the central line trains are supposed to look like. But they crashed so the 1992 train came to service
Nice
The only word I can think of, is Wow....
Also, only one of the colours was kept unscrapped, which was either green or blue… shame it wasn't red though.
Gaelen yeah! That train is stupid. Not safe to be the new tube for London
The best trains
Haha. When the woman talks they are all looking round like they don't know what's going on!!! I like the old trains, I hate change. :-(
Nick Reeves the 1992 stock is not too old.
It's like central line
@infrared567 was dropped as a cost saving measure
Is that a 1992 stock
No these are there variants of it's prototype.
Wow it looks so modern. Especially inside. I love the displays. Looks a bit of Anachronism to watch this video. I wouldn’t bat an eye to see people sat in this with the latest iPhones and covid masks lol
Why is it twin stock can some body tell me
And why is it green on the aldwych side and blue on the holborn sid
Why does the green stock 2 cars
And the blue stock has 4
This Is weird
Maby the aldwych branch used it cause its short
Sean Lecca thanks
They were 2 prototype units for the 1992 stock currently used on the central line. There was another red unit which isn't show here. They were tested on the Jubilee line until there was a derailment when they were on the Aldwych branch for a day (shown here) then were at Woodford for display.
wow!
Im looking for any posters if Aliens or star trek iv
Because that train is a central line / jubilee line train announcement Victoria line