EV Charging | Why I Hesitated About Sharing This Hidden Gem
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2023
- EV Charging is often perceived as being expensive but, for those in the know, there can be some amazing bargains to be found. And this one I came across really takes the biscuit. So to find out how you too could save money when charging your electric vehicle, stick around as Dave Takes It On.
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Thanks Dave
Cheers mate
Thanks Dave, another informative video and you could do with teaching most of these so called journalists to check the data they are using to make sure it is factual!
Still too expensive for a few EV owners, I'm struggling to understand why I still see some drivers hanging around the PodPoint chargers at Tesco, restarting a charge for the free electricity every five minutes.
is it not every 15 minutes. it was that when started. to give time to confirm
It’s within 15mins of start and not free now.
Podpoint is every 5 mins now ,
I tried making biodiesel once but found getting rid of the toxic waste difficult, the waste wasn't green at all in my experience. So just bought diesels that could run on straight filtered oil, and the chips and bits went in to my vegoil powered stove. What did you do with the waste?
Free charging should be banned. I see too many plug in hybrids parking up at these chargers just to get the free charge, but they leave the car and do shopping until long after the free charge stops, or the tiny battery is full.
The chargers at Aldi have a 35p connection fee. So that would account for the difference between 25p and the 27 point Something.
Was about to post this very point 🙂
Re magnets about fuel lines. I've tried these often; yes they work. On any flowing combustible fuel (liquid or gas). Best on carb engines; will work on any metallic pipe. If you what to know what they do, look up MHD - the flow thru a mag field ionises the mix, initially separating any ions. So Positive and Negative move apart. On combustion these attract / look to bond more readily. Home gas central heating usually responds well to this, however anything that changes combustion effects exhaust contents - car manuf. don't like that so now use a defeat approach - plastic pipes to carbs. Metal pipework encourages charged ions to not re-mix back to zero before combustion...
Hi Dave. Really enjoy your analytics. One of the things that looked like a wives tale, was that empty batteries like AA's bounce and full just stop after dropping. The more flat the more they continued to bounce after the drop. I've not got a really accurate set of scales to check if the weigh changes. Do know that at work, when measuring out carbon fibre resins, that just the gas flowing out of the container would be measured by those scales. Best Dave
Not only can I confirm Dave's findings as per the cost, parking restrictions etc, but in my case I opened a shell account, it's been over a month since I filled up and I still haven't been invoiced :-) (Yes the app shows my charging) - guess who is a firm fan of Aldi, especially as I only have a granny charger and no cheap overnight leccy rates.
You can find some charging gems when getting out there and seeing what's what. A nearby council car park has type 2 chargers at 25p/kWh which is decent in itself. However, it's meant to include your parking fee too, but someone screwed up, and the app forgets to charge you the parking fee...
I wouldn't have discovered that, if I had not simply gone out there and tried it out!
My hidden gem of a charging station is at Chipping Ongar in the car park by Budworth Hall. There are three Instavolt charging points with a maximum of 150 kWH.
I agree Dave trying yourself. I found an Instavolt charger which was identified as Charge Point by the Electroverse RFID card and only got charged 61p as opposed to 78p per kwh. Good value.
Yes I discovered it at my my newest built Aldi a couple of months ago only trouble is there’s notices pointing out 90 minutes maximum stay but used it a couple of times and with Shell recharge Rifd card came out at 25p kWh
Neat, cheap but two shopping trips a week for about 100 miles, or find a pub with free client charging
That was my plan at my local Tesco (500m away) when they were free! Unfortunately, people in brand new ID4's, Model 3's etc kept using them and blocking them up!
I can't charge at home without stretching a cable across the path, so a couple of 3 hour charges a week would have done me fine!
I knew where a few of them lived, round the corner from me in great big houses! I guess they had great big houses and brand new Tesla's because they were too tight to spend any of their hard earned charging on their driveways!?
We've just come back from north Wales from a weeks holiday (no jokes about the 20mph please), but found a charger priced at £0.39 / hr, I assumed it was per Kwh - so set it for 8 hours on the app, came back the next morning, lo and behold it was £0.39 / hr, i.e. approx 5.5p / Kwh (anytime of the day) - it was through a company called rolec (vend electric app)
Where in North Wales was that Sam?
@@deansawyer3575 Station Rd, Talacre, Holywell CH8 9RD - its open to all, and outside the barrier (Best thing was:- i topped up £10), thinking that it would do one charge - in the end did nearly 800 miles in the week (charging every night), and pressed a button on the (Return wallet balance) app and it gave me £3.65 refund back out of the tenner, and 800 mile tour over the week 😁
A very nice option to fill faster if you get home with a low battery for just a few hours and have to move off again later in the day for a long trip.
Hi, I think it’s a neighbourhood rate, will have to check on the app but it is cheap!
Parking restrictions apply at mine so only 2 hours max charging.
Take care M.
Aldi here in Denmark also have low prices and I use them quite a lot. At the moment it's €0,30/kWh with no start tariffs. The price at my closest petrol stations is €0,55/kWh. So quite a savings. Of cause it's 22 kW vs 350 kW but i live 2 mins walk from both places.
Yes I agree with you but be careful we're I am it is 25p but parking is only 1hr 30mins . Plus I'm no sure if you have to use the store or not to use . I use shell RFID Card.
I used to charge in a Tesco near me and the pod point was incorrectly marked with a new name so anyone plugging in tried the name of the charger on the app and it didn't work. I knew the old name so could charge happily that worked for quite awhile. The fuel additive and magnets is of course rubbish lol
Also if you made this part of your regular routine you’re surely more likely to spend at ALDI. Sadly our local has a similar charging scheme but a 1.5hr parking limit.
Yes, check the banking app, I did shopping while I waited. Tough on your local Aldi, but even that adds 50 miles or more.
@@davetakesiton every little helps
More good content!
I ran a Vauxhall Corsa Isuzu diesel with a 50/50 mix of diesel fuel and well strained chip oil for a couple of years with no problems at all, it running better on the mix than on straight diesel once warm. The cars that did break using other than straight fuel, were cars fitted with Lucas injection pumps, the pumps (which were somewhat fragile, or crap) breaking not the engines. Unlike some modern cars though, they did not spontaneously combust😉
Yes, I ran the Vauxhall Frontera version of the Isuzu and it was fine, but two Jeeps and a disco were really great
Ta for this. Any views on the latest Toyota charming corporate stance on crash data?
Nice to see Shell registering their company, Shell EV Charging Solutions B.V., in Holland to avoid UK tax!
This is the same company that made £936 BILLION in profit in the 1st quarter of this year and paid little or no UK tax last year!
STOP USING SHELL PRODUCTS until they pay their way!!
Adli's 25ppKWh was supposed to stop during the Spring of 2023; it could be that store has been missed from the price increase; I definitely paid the higher price when I charged at my local Aldi in July.
OR, it might be the app hasnt been updated properly - I didnt use the app.
OK, I have to correct myself; I recently attempted a charge at my local Aldi, and the price had been reduced again.
"Attempted", as I was trying to charge to prove the garage hadnt repaired my charging circuitry, despite their claims.
I think the difference here is that the charger is dubbed a "community" charger and doesn't fit the usual Shell recharge pricing structure they lay out online. Its why Zap map and even Electroverse don't reflect it. As Shell sends them their full usual cost.
Dave, have any of your friends charged at a Tesla charger with an EGMP car? I have charged at 2 Tesla superchargers, and it tops out at 42kW. I have read it is something to do with the charging infrastructure, but I just wondered if this will be remedied with the V4 supercharger? Love how you're able to make things sound simple, so guess that's why I'm loving your channel😅
Yes, gets complicated, Johnny, at a certain power and voltage the car inverter gets involved and that throws in its own limits, for some cars that can be about 100kW, so even a V4 as installed can top out at 100kW but it depends on the model and they are trying software fixes. Just tried a V4 and they are cool but my 2016 Model S tops out at 150kW, so I’m just as happy on the V2. I’m researching the V4 for a new video and I believe the V4 is both 500kW and 1,000 volts capable, restricted by software to 400v at 250kW as Tesla does not make anything yet that needs more. Would love to see them throw the switch to full power
Thanks Dave
Seems a well know issue for most 800v cars charging on a 400v system unless the car has been designed to cope with 400v charging
I drove to Southern Spain and there’s free charging everywhere (model 3 performance). I drove from Lincoln UK (that’s central England - midlands for non- English people), all the way to southern Spain without ANYYYY issues. (Most people would think I was crazy!). I only experienced issues whilst I was there (there were level 3 superchargers everywhere and one 4km from my villa, but I travelled 45km to an inland city and checked all the chargers before setting off en route. No T-superchargers, but loads of chargers, non of the chargers were accessible by credit card. However, this caused me to find any solution possible, then soon realised there are free charging everywhere. Almost all supermarkets have 22Kw chargers for free. It was so weird charging for free at a decent speed of 22kw.
The local McDonalds had two but were out of action (of course!) and I only had about 6%. That’s the only time I’ve had range anxiety. Then, after about 2 hours of going everywhere to ask for advice on chargers, they said, “Yeah, right there and they are all free at all super markets), pointing to a super market entrance.
Now, 22kw seems faster than the 273kw (didn’t know 273kw could be done through the model 3) I was pulling from a level 3, when you’ve spent 4 hours crapping yourself that you’re gunna be stranded 45km from your villa in a foreign country. After 20 mins, I had enough charge to get to a super charger. I have never been so happy to see a super chargers!
Dave how do I get in touch about my travel to southern Spain, as I would love for you to use it in your channel for content. I have proof of my car and photos etc, I would love to be able to give you more information so you can create a video about my EASY trip to Spain. With proof and photos etc
Great story and great to hear. Yes would love to get in touch and do a feature. Get in touch with brief details davetakesiton@gmail.com and I will get back in touch
yes you would get a cheap charge leaving it there all weekend but
you may need to buy some new wheels ?
If you really want to open the worm can . Do a video on HiFi cables.
I live in the back and beyond on the east coast of Suffolk. The chargers around my small town charge between 79p & 87p per KWH..... Absolutely disgusting prices....
connection fee? good price
I pay 9 p per kwhr at home overnight on octopus go ?
Isn’t that just for 4 hours though? When I looked into it the rate for the other 20 hours was more expensive than normal. IMHO it all depends how often you charge at home as to whether it’s worthwhile. Additionally, my EV doesn’t have the facility for scheduled charging, so I’d have to be awake at two stupid o’clock times to start and stop the charge.
I pay 7p on Octopus (recently reduced from 7½p) available for SIX hours from 23h30-05h30. 6hrs x 7kW = 42kW which is more than I need. At the moment that means it's costing me 1½p per mile. Pinch me!! @@sib4897
Could the 25p be ex vat maybe ?
No, turns out to be a 35p connection charge
Hello mate
hi
Jump to 5:00 to get to the point of the video.
The fact that you go to the extent of describe a good charging spot as a hidden gem and the technological spiel you need to describe it shows how flaky this whole charging issue for the EVs still is. Of course any journalist that does state this will be howled down as a mythmonger. Then of course there is the need for knowledge of the correct etiquette coming in to the frame to add to the complexity. I wonder if the market for people who like this sort of life living off their multitude of apps if they can get a data link and loving constant technology churn is drying up. Private EV sales are dropping off by the looks of it and only fleet sales holding it at the moment. The Chinese cars are affordable but if things do blow up in Taiwan they will be bricked for sure and are as much a bargain as the Trojan horse was.
So you prefer destroying our planet digging up the Arctic polluting the oceans and the air we breath? To each his own
@@davetakesiton No but there is no real discussion or quarter being given in all this business from the eco side with the usual binary push of any contrary comment as coming from an extremist ideology. The considerable unpleasant targeted disruption of people trying to go about their daily business with what is available in plain view. My problem is the ultra tight timing of all this enforced change with little roll out of the the facilities needed. This with the UK government and its public in dire financial straits and showing in HS2 a lamentable inability to run large infrastructure projects. The UK has such a miniscule contribution to CO2 output that whatever we do here will have no effect especially to the extent you say.
so, if your daily business is poisoning the air we breath, your answer give up do nothing? @@michaeld5888
@@davetakesiton I did say a matter of the tight timing given the poor infrastructure rollout. Where give up and do nothing comes out of that is anyone's guess.
Good that you are open minded and you applied Science Royal Society motto - nulius in verba - take nobodys word for it in testing your atomising / magnet gizmo for your diesel. But you failed miserably in the other half of scientific approach by not taking very careful observational and quantifiable data about effect consumption. I seriously doubt it worked in saving fuel and was likely just a spurious feeling you had or some other misinterpretation. Anecdotal evidence and gut instinct is not science or proof. D minus.