As someone who is about to go EV, this video should be shown at every single car dealership. You are so much more knowledgable than the people actually selling the cars.
Thanks Richard, really informative video. Best one I have seen out there, that really gives you confidence around switching to EV’s sooner rather than later. Really like the channel. 👍🏻
Been looking for exactly this type of video for a while. Brilliant video and some great insight, I really enjoyed it. Also totally agree with other comments, this is one of the top EV channels that I have come across.
‘This isn’t as quick as it should be’… I came across a new owner on the M1 services who couldn’t understand why his MG ZS EV was saying it would take 8 hours to charge. I showed him the CCS cable he should have been using instead of the 7kw charger he was on.
Brilliantly informative, as always, Richard - you really go in to such great detail with every video post topic you cover and it's very much appreciated. And bravo to you, fine sir, for your remarks at 4 minutes in regarding "if you don't need to charge at the supermarket, then don't just do it to get the parking space - leave it for someone who DOES need to"... if only all EV drivers were so considerate...
Just be aware , from what I gather from other videos, that some supermarkets ( Morrisons for example) will fine you £10 if you are on a bay for more than an hour and a quarter !
Another excellent RSEV video with lots of great tips. Recently did a run from the Midlands to West Sussex in my Model 3 Performance with no hassle. Found a supercharger at a hotel with just two stalls courtesy of A Better Routeplanner.
That’ll be Norton park charger. Actually a really old 2 bay site now, not the fastest and largely eclipsed by the Amesbury chargers which are faster, but nonetheless a nice enough hotel for a coffee and pizza
Did you try the navigation in the car? It has all the superchargers and normally will tell you which would be a good fit for your journey. Tap the map and bottom left is a lightning bolt. That shows the chargers it knows about.
@@SirHackaL0t. I tend to prefer ABRP because I can define the start and desired end state of charge, as Richard mentioned in the video. The Tesla sat nav is very good as well so it just comes down to personal preference.
My comment for people thinking to buy an EV is that they are different to "normal" cars. They have different advantages and disadvantages, and if you treat an EV like an ICE you will emphasise the disadvantages and largely miss the advantages. If you are willing to change your thinking a little though, it is quite easy to almost totally mitigate the disadvantages and enjoy the advantages. So charge at home if you can, and if you are away from home don't feel that you have to sit doing nothing at a fast charger for 40 mins every time the car needs charging. Instead book a hotel with chargers if you can (they can be more expensive though), or try to integrate charging with shopping, visiting an attraction or similar. I frequently charge whilst i am walking the dog, and often i look for a free charger to use whilst i am doing it. By adapting the way i think, and planning a little ahead, my car does almost all of it's charging whilst i am doing something i needed to do anyway, and i don't feel at all inconvenienced. I would also comment that it is strongly recommended to *_not_* use a home 13A socket to charge an EV: They are designed to pull high currents for just a few minutes at a time (boiling a kettle) not several hours. If you habitually use one to charge your car you'll probably end up burning out either the socket or the cable. In Norway where i live it is now effectively illegal to charge from a standard home socket except in an emergency.
@@Workmusic1988 Hopefully your oven is wired instead of using a 3 pin plug and most ovens are less than 2.5kwh anyway. Nice about the food though. Mmmm.
@@Workmusic1988 - A good example that, as your oven should have a dedicated high current cable from the fuse box and it's own circuit breaker. Much like an EV charger. It's nice to have a partner who can cook well :)
Regarding adapting an older Tesla Model S or X to use CCS: my understanding is that, well as getting the adapter that was shown in the video, you also need Tesla to apply a software tweak. Without that tweak, the navigation deliberately excludes the newer supercharger sites that are CCS only, because it knows you can’t use them. I’m having this done, along with the EMMC warranty replacement, next week, so will update this post if anything to add.
Really good video and loads of very useful information. Thank you so much, we currently offer free charging at our hotel, but unfortunately as electricty prices now become incredibly, expensive we're going to have remove that service, such a shame as I wanted to encourage people to have electric vehicles, it's a real shame the electric companies don't offer some form of subsidy. Keep up the great work and when it's time for me to buy electric, I'm certainly going to give you guys a shout
We’ve just done a 1663 mile round trip to Scotland with our Tesla Model 3 SR+. Absolutely no problem and we never had to stop for more than 30 min. Normally the car was ready to go on before we finished our break. The tip with the flashing LED indicating how much current the car is drawing is good. I knew about the ‘urinal’ rule but when you get to a Supercharger I never never knew which car is nearly done charging and which one has just started. Now I know, thanks! Although you said most public chargers are now accepting normal wireless payment cards it is unfortunately not the case for some of the more remote chargers. I needed to charge up before the Isle of Skye but it would not take a normal payment card so I had to use the ChargePlaceScotland app (which I had signed up for but didn’t receive a RFID card for yet). Only problem was that I could not get any reception! In which case an app is useless.
Brilliant video. Another useful tip is that I often find people who are new to EVs don’t appreciate that with AC charging, the speed is dependent on the charger built in to the car. So people will complain that they are only getting 7kW out of a 22kW AC post and mark the charge point as faulty, but it’s because they only have a single phase 7kW charger built in to their car!
It's definitely a learning curve. I can usually rely on 75Kw on Electrify America 150Kw chargers; but some can go as high as 100kw. The new 350kw units always want to throttle me at 50kw whenever I complain; I'm always told the same.. (Work in Progress) I'm trying to be patient. I know this is all new. 🙄😁👍😬
I've had a 32amp commando socket installed in the garage for £90 - perfect for the low milage I cover. It charges around 30mph so really quick to put an extra 100m range in.
Welcome! Did you see this one: Tesla Model 3SR+ efficiency v Vauxhall Corsa-e 370 miles in a day (cannot be done says Guy Martin🤔) th-cam.com/video/5cOBL6uGIYc/w-d-xo.html
@RSymons RSEV yes you took it up north to deliver the tesla to a customer,im so impressed with the corsa and love driving it seen the new astra coming out soon but got mine on pcp for four years so might change it in three years to see wot offers are out for the astra when im ready for a change.
Great video. A lot of good information. My only gripe with some of the rapid chargers are subscriptions or accounts we’re you have to deposit money on said accounts. Why they all don’t have contactless payments beats me.
But you really don't need to know anything.. You have a Tesla, assuming you'll be happy to let Elon do all your thinking from now on. By subscription, of course... Nothing is free with Tesla.
Re: Hotels with chargers. I recommend the Carrington Arms in Moulsoe. 3 miles from the M1 Milton Keynes. 6 Tesla destination chargers, 3 are open to any car. Free to use for customers and accomodation and food top class. (I have no links with them)
Excellent video - it would be great to have another video detailing pricing given the upcoming VAT changes. I’m in a cheap Leaf waiting for my Taycan so the more info the better please!
Very useful video. One of the things I learnt was that different cars have different types of chargers and different charging companies have greatly different price rates. So there's no standardisation and the cowboys can take advantage. I think I'll hold back from buying an EV until they sort that out.
Another very useful video which should help those thinking of making the change to an EV. If you’re retired or work for significant periods at home , charging from a domestic 3 pin plug could be all you need. If like me you have solar panels it makes sense to charge slowly during daylight hours so it can be predominantly or entirely free.
Great informative video. I've been driving electric for 6 years now, so I understand the process, but it is still much more complicated than putting petrol in a car. Ionity is similar to refueling on the motorway - always the highest prices and only in emergency
That looks set to change in the next few years though, with the likes of Gridserve etc. And also there is Connected Kerb, whom are contracted to install a further 30,000 public charging connections in the UK during 2022 alone..... And all will have contactless payment facility.
Excellent video thank you. I’ve had an i pace 2020 for nearly 2 years now and still cannot understand why it charges so slowly at fast chargers. Today I plugged into a supposed 175kw bp charger but never got above 45kw. I plugged into a gridserve 300kw charger 2 days ago and never got above 77kw. And of course 50kw chargers charge between 30-40kw. It drives me crazy - I only ever charge in public when between 10-70% but even with careful planning spend far longer charging than anticipated because of the slow speeds. Also, never got more than 70kw from an ionity. Lease is up for renewal this summer and I’ve no choice but to go Tesla for some reliability and peace of mind for my long trips!
Frustrating. Usually limiting factor at rapid chargers are temperature and shared power. If car hasn’t been driven for quite a while the battery just isn’t warm enough to take full speed. The jag is up to 100kw. I’ve seen 90kw using one but again that’s 100kw is max in optimal conditions at lower states of charge. Needs to be better. Audi etron 55 is a charging beast. 150kw constantly every time. See my videos on that. And of course Tesla. They never get their headline figures usually but are still quick and easy.
Thank you for getting back to me, much appreciated. You’re right, every time I’m charging next to a etron I’m always surprised by how fast they charge. Their problem is the range… It’s a shame as right now there’s lots of choice with EVs but there seems to be a compromise with each one- no perfect fit. Unless I could afford the EQS 🤣
Great video Richard. Hotels should have chargers at their car park. Even a 3 pin would help. When we went to the Lake District I couldn’t find any hotel which had chargers. I had to find an Insta Volt station every now and then. It was a bit inconvenient.
If I pick a random dates in September and October for hotels in Lake District with EV charging it typically shows up to 30 which offer it. But yes more needed, and basically all hotels should. Doesn’t have to be expensive installs, like you say just outdoor 3 pin sockets and I don’t mind paying a few £ for the privilege if needed.
There are a few hotels and guest houses in the Lake District with chargers shown on ZapMap Dan......Plus around 6 in Kendal now. There are also a number of chargers in the Lakes and surrounding villages, being installed by Charge My Street - a company based in North Lancashire. They are installing there, plus in certain areas in the Lakes and surrounding locations. They are also working with Carlisle City Council to double the number of chargers in the city centre there.....
Thanks for the initial rule, my Tesla will be here very soon. I did spot you taycan at fully charged earlier in the year. 👍 Whilst I was riding the yellow lemon bus 🤣
Great stuff… SO informative. Pity most dealers aren’t necessarily giving new EV drivers a similar debrief or model-specific ‘how to charge’ knowledge before they take their new car away! I think they’ll need to improve that side of it quickly, and almost certainly will.
I'm taking a long learning curve myself. Three months in and I'm still learning something new everyday. This week I'm learning voice commands. .. Last week, charging options
When my free charging days are over I'll be using a 3 pin, car set to 8 amps, for about 4 hours each afternoon, 32 miles per day added. I don't commute much during the week.
Maybe someone can shed some light on v2g v2l options to charge car using night tariff and using this to power home at day when prices are expensive. Heard of the quasar bi directional charger. Any chance u can do a video. Heard it’s better than solar panels in uk. J
is Cornwall the only place we go on holiday it what you seem to be saying Tesla can change the socket on older cars to the new ccs and its not that expensive to get done
Focus on people who can’t afford a Tesla or other expensive cars you spoke about here Be more considerate with people who can’t afford the high price cars you mentioned here
Thanks for mentioning the commando socket. I can't charge at home but I can at my Mum's about a mile away, although because it's not where I live, I wouldn't get the government grant, so I suppose I could just fit (pay an electrician) a 32A commando to charge from? Can't afford much but was thinking of an older Leaf (6.6kwh charger) and any long trips hire a car. I know for the US Model 3's they have to charge at a supercharger or chademo, is there any CCS to Chademo adapters and would this be possible in a Leaf?
Unfortunately not everyone can charge from home I am getting the new polestar 2 this week and have to rely on public charging and will be doing well over 100 miles a day any tips for me ?
Great video, awesome content, Richard. Could you make a video about sentry mode? What do you recommend using for recording? USB stick? Memory card? What size? How to format it? Thank you!
My local council prohibit home chargers :( - need to use Source network (minimum £3 for 7Kw = 42p/kw, or £6.54 for 11/22kw at 59/29p per kwh or capped overnight at four hours- Ubitricity which is more than 5x the price of home tariff at 24p/kw). And also nearest residents to the two ubtricity lampposts hog them. so the other EV owners usually sit and pounce when free as attempts to make a rota failed. In the end I declined to get an EV this time.
Presumably if you had a driveway they couldn’t stop you. A shame that Councils don’t try to help. I wonder how many of them would rather that you walked or took public transport instead. I know that Eastbourne are like that and East Sussex are still considering their plans for Ev charging so literally missing the money that the government are handing out to councils.
@@SirHackaL0t. the only limit in that case would be grade I or II listing. But as a London council most homes don't have driveway. Yes, they want more dependence on public transport overall. Probably the goal of ulez too for those who could only afford their old cars as it's a regressive tax that disproportionately affects lower income families.
@@chrisah1 Unfortunately removing older cars is a good way to improve air quality. Sad that it’s the poorer that are both affected by the ULEZ as well as the bad air quality.
Hi Richard and hi everyone. Next month I will be travelling to the UK from Spain with my new Tesla Model 3 LR. It will be my first time in the UK so I'm very excited. However I have been trying to plan my trips and the charging points for my 10 days in the UK, and I have seen that there are lots of different charging apps... I don't know which one to choose... that's completely insane... I will drive to Scotland too and I need another card to charge there... What should I do? Thanks!
Well I’ve decided to go to an EV for my first car as a disabled person with no access to a home charger but for how often I’ll actually need to charge for how far I’m likely to actually drive I think I’ll be ok and don’t really mind if the cost is comparable to petrol for the sake of better health for the planet and less guilt I guess I just need to factor in where my nearest free charging is and then lowest cost fast charging is
Basic rule of thumb. If it's a tesla it's a real practical option. Anything else? It will be a right pain in the arse if you ever take it on a long journey ie: one charging point and its in use, slow charging points, charging points not working, a different app every time etc.
It’s time for an update! Is there a CCS extension cable available for a Non Tesla, so I can extend the cable around the back of my car & so I don’t inconvenience anyone by taking a space up unnecessarily. (My car charges on the rear RH side). Thank you.
We got a long range model 3 and were wondering wether we nedded a Tesla wall charger or just use the included 3 pin plug but we realised we need a wall charger
Hi Richard, I'm not a Tesla owner, but would like to register with Tesla to use the charging network. I have registered an account on the website, and downloaded the app. I had to re-add my details in the app too. I can't add payment in the app, as it gives an error. The front scteen of the app only gives Tesla Car models. There is no option to charge anywhere. I would have thought the app would bring in my card details from the Tesla account I set up in my PC browser??
Breaking the 80% rule seems to be the biggest issue these days - if you hit 80% plus and someone turns up to charge, move on a let them get some juice.
@@doriangray6985 Yes, charging above 80% puts the battery in a stress state. You can do it slowly or fast occasionally, but smashing it everyday to the max is not healthy for the long term.
My ohme charger can I join the blue cable that came with my model y to the ohme cable?;I tried and where I joined the cable it was loose and easy to seperate?
Out of date now. The Tesla super chargers are going to open up to everyone soon so this is really good. The chargers you’ve shown one was really misleading. The eo genius (the white charger) is recommended more for fleet management not for a home charger. Why you mentioned that as a home charger in the opener was misleading. Eo Mini is the home charger. The rolec don’t even bother unless you want a building fire eventually the rcds burn out eventually. I recommend Indra or zappi for home charging. The Tesla one isn’t great either
Very interesting, if your charging at home is it best to top up every time you leave your car, overnight etc, or is it best to get down to a low percentage and then to top up, I’m thinking mainly of ease of use and prolonging battery life. I’m a fan of your channel but still undecided on when to go electric, so I’m trying to gleam as much info as I can prior to taking the plunge!
What the best option for 3 phase charging? If you have 100kva transformer at a commercial premises. Can you just plug a Tesla straight into a commercial socket ? Most are 32amp
If you drive < 70 miles per day then I really can't see the point in a home charger. I set my M3P to charge at 00:01 and it charges at 8-10miles per hour (plenty) :) These videos are awesome btw!
Just keep an eye on your wiring and socket; often ring mains have a 16Amp MCB and you could theoretically pull 13 Amps through each socket, but they weren't designed with the expectation of pulling maximum current for hours at a time.
Yes charging from 13a socket all the time isn’t ideal really. On your Tesla you can set it to a reduce current though. Adjust to maybe 8-10amp for that location. Saves the strain
Don’t forget winter when you can warm the car without sacrificing battery as it is being topped up by the mains. Also, if you are on a tariff like Octopus Go, you can charge your car for 5p per kilowatt during the four-hour off peak window. It saves being stung by prices on public chargers. Of course, not everyone will have the ability to install a wall box.
Just a note on this video for later viewers like myself as of November 2023: Lots of nice chargers popping up in my area... But the cost! Wow.. I have a hybrid, parity with petrol prices for mine right now are around 35p per kWh, most rapid chargers are now priced at 79p per kWh, instavolt are 89p! Some slow chargers are still around 30 - 50p p kWh & Tesla are 45p But seriously.. these prices are unsustainable! It's gonna kill the pure EV market dead.
Very informative clear information. If I was looking for an EV would consider contact RS EV as Richard seems honest about "real world range" etc. Is there any cost difference using the 50kW ove the 100kW ? Is the 50kW cheaper?
Really good, informative video. A couple of points though - 60% of Scots live in flats not houses, so home charging's a no-no. You can't get away from the fact that all EV charging takes a lot longer than fuelling a petrol or diesel car - and that, as a result, all EV drivers have range anxiety - I'm afraid I would find that very frustrating. BW.
On the Ionity chargers using the Ionity app, do you start the session on the app first and then plug in or do you still plug in first? I have had issues getting the charging sessions started and have had to call Ionity on a number of a occasions to sort it out.
I open app and start scanning code as I plug in. But yes if you plug in and after couple minutes haven’t authorised payment via your banking app for example, it can all time out. They need to just have contactless payment at the machine. If you use often, rfid card for them can help
"normally charge from home " people say that a lot .... do you live in the city ? 80% of house/flat in London dont have a garage or driveway ... its on street parking
Re the CCS Adapter to allow a Tesla Model X or S use CCS chargers, do you know if this adaptor would also work on Renault ZOEs? (The ZE22 and ZE40 only have Type 2 sockets, some ZE50s can have CCS fitted from new) Which also only have a Type 2 socket. The earlier ZOEs hzve a Chameleon onboard charger and can charge at 11kw on AC and 22kwh on DC ( Q motor ZOE will charge at 41kwh) What do you reckon?
How do you charge your rental electric car if you are a tourist from Australia, US or Canada? I hear, the European apps will not install on American phones. There is no such problem when you want to pay for gas aka petrol - pull your credit card and swipe.
Such a really informative and interesting video... Iv been looking at getting a Tesla Model 3 (company car) and have been uming and arhing to whether it would suit my needs. On average my daily travels can be 100-250 miles. Depending on if its a round trip or not... As charging to 100% isn't recommended each day, would a long range model 3 offer these miles on a daily basis?
With that kind of mileage I'd go for the long range, it will give you a buffer for winter and you could probably do 250 from 85% on the long range (even more if you drive sensibly)
I've written quite a long answer, so for those of short attention span: as a company car driver it's a no brainer! It's so much cheaper than an ICE car as a company car and if you're doing a lot of travelling, the Tesla charging infrastructure is still miles ahead. You should be fine with those distances. If you drive all motorway and are used to driving at 80 to 85mph you'll probably run out of range. Your choice will to lower your speed (you get a LOT further driving at 70). If you're driving long distances, it can be quicker to drive faster and do a top up charge - but obviously that's illegal in the UK anyway! The recommendation about only charging to 80% is about long term health of the battery, as is avoiding rapid charging more than necessary. Bear in mind that even if you charge to 100% every time and always use a supercharger, Tesla guarantees the battery for eight years, so it's not a massive issue and definitely won't affect your use of the car while you have it. Charging to 100% does mean no regenerative braking when you first set off - probably doesn't make sense to you now, but once you're used to it, it's disconcerting when the car keeps going after you let of the accelerator. If you use the "departure time" feature to preheat the car while it's plugged in, you minimise the effect of colder weather - and benefit from a toasty car that doesn't need scraping when you have an early start.
A lot depends on where you stop (customers premises?) Whether you stop for lunch and where, (normally Superchargers near "well known food outlets") Are you suburban, A road, Motorway driving? You should download a batter route planner and use it in the background with your current car, just tell it you're in a Tesla! Should give a good idea of chargers in your routes.
Yeah model 3 would be perfect for you. 👌 90% charge fine, but regular 100% charging isn’t an issue if using. They just don’t like being sat stored like that all the time.
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned anything about 800V architecture EVs of Hyundai Motors group because this is the future They are the fastest charging ones and even Tesla hasn't got this technology yet. Second thing is the battery charge time vs battery capacity. Most of us use home chargers just 4 to 6 hours overnight because of the tariffs and is important to know how many hours will take for a full charge. Tesla and Hyundai, Kia, Genesis are the most efficient EVs today and this is mandatory to know prior to purchase the new car. German, Japanese and French EVs are ages behind but the chinese cars are slowly taking over the market.
Hi I just ordered model y and try to click on your link for free charge for new customer but the link doesn't work. Do you have a code I can used please
As someone who is about to go EV, this video should be shown at every single car dealership.
You are so much more knowledgable than the people actually selling the cars.
I think he IS the person selling the cars! Did you get an EV?
@@nakkadu I went Hybrid! My house isn’t viable to get a charging point installed 😩
@@JoeyDND Ah still cool...Hybrid is a good choice also 👍🏽👍🏽
Honestly, the most informative real life, EV channel, superb reviews and advice.
And best of all no bottles of.... . warm lucozade on display!
😂😁
I feel slightly sick.
Thanks Richard, really informative video. Best one I have seen out there, that really gives you confidence around switching to EV’s sooner rather than later. Really like the channel. 👍🏻
I was waiting for the infrastructure to mature. Now, is the right time... 2022 Hyundai Kona
Been looking for exactly this type of video for a while. Brilliant video and some great insight, I really enjoyed it. Also totally agree with other comments, this is one of the top EV channels that I have come across.
‘This isn’t as quick as it should be’… I came across a new owner on the M1 services who couldn’t understand why his MG ZS EV was saying it would take 8 hours to charge.
I showed him the CCS cable he should have been using instead of the 7kw charger he was on.
Lol. I found it a rather tough learning curve myself the first few weeks. 🙄🤭👿
Brilliantly informative, as always, Richard - you really go in to such great detail with every video post topic you cover and it's very much appreciated.
And bravo to you, fine sir, for your remarks at 4 minutes in regarding "if you don't need to charge at the supermarket, then don't just do it to get the parking space - leave it for someone who DOES need to"... if only all EV drivers were so considerate...
Just be aware , from what I gather from other videos, that some supermarkets ( Morrisons for example) will fine you £10 if you are on a bay for more than an hour and a quarter !
Collecting my Model 3 in a few weeks. This was super helpful, thanks!
Another excellent RSEV video with lots of great tips. Recently did a run from the Midlands to West Sussex in my Model 3 Performance with no hassle. Found a supercharger at a hotel with just two stalls courtesy of A Better Routeplanner.
That’ll be Norton park charger. Actually a really old 2 bay site now, not the fastest and largely eclipsed by the Amesbury chargers which are faster, but nonetheless a nice enough hotel for a coffee and pizza
Did you try the navigation in the car? It has all the superchargers and normally will tell you which would be a good fit for your journey. Tap the map and bottom left is a lightning bolt. That shows the chargers it knows about.
@@SirHackaL0t. I tend to prefer ABRP because I can define the start and desired end state of charge, as Richard mentioned in the video. The Tesla sat nav is very good as well so it just comes down to personal preference.
Great EV advice as usual from Richard.
My comment for people thinking to buy an EV is that they are different to "normal" cars. They have different advantages and disadvantages, and if you treat an EV like an ICE you will emphasise the disadvantages and largely miss the advantages. If you are willing to change your thinking a little though, it is quite easy to almost totally mitigate the disadvantages and enjoy the advantages. So charge at home if you can, and if you are away from home don't feel that you have to sit doing nothing at a fast charger for 40 mins every time the car needs charging. Instead book a hotel with chargers if you can (they can be more expensive though), or try to integrate charging with shopping, visiting an attraction or similar. I frequently charge whilst i am walking the dog, and often i look for a free charger to use whilst i am doing it. By adapting the way i think, and planning a little ahead, my car does almost all of it's charging whilst i am doing something i needed to do anyway, and i don't feel at all inconvenienced.
I would also comment that it is strongly recommended to *_not_* use a home 13A socket to charge an EV: They are designed to pull high currents for just a few minutes at a time (boiling a kettle) not several hours. If you habitually use one to charge your car you'll probably end up burning out either the socket or the cable. In Norway where i live it is now effectively illegal to charge from a standard home socket except in an emergency.
Most granny chargers will limit the charge to 10A to stop this from happening and some have temperature sensors to detect overheating of the plug.
My ovan uses as much power as the car and the wife is always maxing that for hours (my gut loves it unfortunately... ha)!
@@Workmusic1988 Hopefully your oven is wired instead of using a 3 pin plug and most ovens are less than 2.5kwh anyway. Nice about the food though. Mmmm.
@@Workmusic1988 - A good example that, as your oven should have a dedicated high current cable from the fuse box and it's own circuit breaker. Much like an EV charger. It's nice to have a partner who can cook well :)
@@SirHackaL0t. ahh good point on the wiring! Yeah the food has become a yummy problem lol
Really well done video
Doing Edinburgh to Farnborough at the weekend so will get to truly experience the Uk EV charging infrastructure !
Easy!
See you at fully charged? We have a stand there, come and say hi. 🖐
Regarding adapting an older Tesla Model S or X to use CCS: my understanding is that, well as getting the adapter that was shown in the video, you also need Tesla to apply a software tweak. Without that tweak, the navigation deliberately excludes the newer supercharger sites that are CCS only, because it knows you can’t use them. I’m having this done, along with the EMMC warranty replacement, next week, so will update this post if anything to add.
I'm sure Tesla will have no trouble getting you the patches, (for a price)
"Always a price with them, it never ends"
Really good video and loads of very useful information. Thank you so much, we currently offer free charging at our hotel, but unfortunately as electricty prices now become incredibly, expensive we're going to have remove that service, such a shame as I wanted to encourage people to have electric vehicles, it's a real shame the electric companies don't offer some form of subsidy. Keep up the great work and when it's time for me to buy electric, I'm certainly going to give you guys a shout
We’ve just done a 1663 mile round trip to Scotland with our Tesla Model 3 SR+. Absolutely no problem and we never had to stop for more than 30 min. Normally the car was ready to go on before we finished our break. The tip with the flashing LED indicating how much current the car is drawing is good. I knew about the ‘urinal’ rule but when you get to a Supercharger I never never knew which car is nearly done charging and which one has just started. Now I know, thanks!
Although you said most public chargers are now accepting normal wireless payment cards it is unfortunately not the case for some of the more remote chargers. I needed to charge up before the Isle of Skye but it would not take a normal payment card so I had to use the ChargePlaceScotland app (which I had signed up for but didn’t receive a RFID card for yet). Only problem was that I could not get any reception! In which case an app is useless.
Great review & you have answered many of woes about charging an electric at home, so on & so forth 👍
Thanks again Mr Symons; another comprehensively informative video.
Brilliant video. Another useful tip is that I often find people who are new to EVs don’t appreciate that with AC charging, the speed is dependent on the charger built in to the car. So people will complain that they are only getting 7kW out of a 22kW AC post and mark the charge point as faulty, but it’s because they only have a single phase 7kW charger built in to their car!
It's definitely a learning curve. I can usually rely on 75Kw on Electrify America 150Kw chargers; but some can go as high as 100kw. The new 350kw units always want to throttle me at 50kw whenever I complain; I'm always told the same..
(Work in Progress) I'm trying to be patient. I know this is all new. 🙄😁👍😬
I've had a 32amp commando socket installed in the garage for £90 - perfect for the low milage I cover. It charges around 30mph so really quick to put an extra 100m range in.
New to the channel and only been driving electric corsa e since September and happy to take any knowledge on board,thankyou
Welcome! Did you see this one: Tesla Model 3SR+ efficiency v Vauxhall Corsa-e 370 miles in a day (cannot be done says Guy Martin🤔)
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@RSymons RSEV yes you took it up north to deliver the tesla to a customer,im so impressed with the corsa and love driving it seen the new astra coming out soon but got mine on pcp for four years so might change it in three years to see wot offers are out for the astra when im ready for a change.
Great video. A lot of good information. My only gripe with some of the rapid chargers are subscriptions or accounts we’re you have to deposit money on said accounts. Why they all don’t have contactless payments beats me.
Contactless payments for all chargers is coming, but it might take another couple of years or so.
Most do now, it's just discounted with a subscription..
Picking up my Model 3 LR on Thursday - optimally timed video!!
Nice!!
Really useful, thanks. Only just got my first EV (company Tesla) so great to be able to learn from your experience.
But you really don't need to know anything.. You have a Tesla, assuming you'll be happy to let Elon do all your thinking from now on. By subscription, of course... Nothing is free with Tesla.
Re: Hotels with chargers. I recommend the Carrington Arms in Moulsoe. 3 miles from the M1 Milton Keynes. 6 Tesla destination chargers, 3 are open to any car. Free to use for customers and accomodation and food top class. (I have no links with them)
That's ok. Anytime I try to provide a link, TH-cam erases the entire post. 👍
Excellent video - it would be great to have another video detailing pricing given the upcoming VAT changes. I’m in a cheap Leaf waiting for my Taycan so the more info the better please!
Very useful video. One of the things I learnt was that different cars have different types of chargers and different charging companies have greatly different price rates. So there's no standardisation and the cowboys can take advantage.
I think I'll hold back from buying an EV until they sort that out.
Another very useful video which should help those thinking of making the change to an EV.
If you’re retired or work for significant periods at home , charging from a domestic 3 pin plug could be all you need.
If like me you have solar panels it makes sense to charge slowly during daylight hours so it can be predominantly or entirely free.
Great informative video. I've been driving electric for 6 years now, so I understand the process, but it is still much more complicated than putting petrol in a car. Ionity is similar to refueling on the motorway - always the highest prices and only in emergency
Still way cheaper than petrol I pay no more than $14 for 300 miles.
My old Toyota was starting to approach $40 for regular gas for the same range.
That looks set to change in the next few years though, with the likes of Gridserve etc. And also there is Connected Kerb, whom are contracted to install a further 30,000 public charging connections in the UK during 2022 alone..... And all will have contactless payment facility.
Really interesting facts on charging
Thanks. We are getting so many EVs on the road finding chargers busy.lets hope we get more charging points
There are a further 30,000 additional public charging connections being installed in the UK in 2022 alone Bernard. The aim is 190,000 by 2030.....
Excellent video thank you.
I’ve had an i pace 2020 for nearly 2 years now and still cannot understand why it charges so slowly at fast chargers. Today I plugged into a supposed 175kw bp charger but never got above 45kw. I plugged into a gridserve 300kw charger 2 days ago and never got above 77kw. And of course 50kw chargers charge between 30-40kw. It drives me crazy - I only ever charge in public when between 10-70% but even with careful planning spend far longer charging than anticipated because of the slow speeds. Also, never got more than 70kw from an ionity.
Lease is up for renewal this summer and I’ve no choice but to go Tesla for some reliability and peace of mind for my long trips!
Frustrating. Usually limiting factor at rapid chargers are temperature and shared power. If car hasn’t been driven for quite a while the battery just isn’t warm enough to take full speed.
The jag is up to 100kw. I’ve seen 90kw using one but again that’s 100kw is max in optimal conditions at lower states of charge.
Needs to be better.
Audi etron 55 is a charging beast. 150kw constantly every time. See my videos on that.
And of course Tesla. They never get their headline figures usually but are still quick and easy.
Thank you for getting back to me, much appreciated. You’re right, every time I’m charging next to a etron I’m always surprised by how fast they charge. Their problem is the range…
It’s a shame as right now there’s lots of choice with EVs but there seems to be a compromise with each one- no perfect fit. Unless I could afford the EQS 🤣
OBD2 reader and scanner app? (Ref Bjorn Nyland?)
Great info Richard. Now if only we could grow the charging network a bit mor in Australia :)
Takes time, the petrol infrastructure you enjoy now took 100 years.
Hopefully, the EV won't take nearly as long. 👌👍👍😬
Great video Richard. Hotels should have chargers at their car park. Even a 3 pin would help. When we went to the Lake District I couldn’t find any hotel which had chargers. I had to find an Insta Volt station every now and then. It was a bit inconvenient.
If I pick a random dates in September and October for hotels in Lake District with EV charging it typically shows up to 30 which offer it.
But yes more needed, and basically all hotels should. Doesn’t have to be expensive installs, like you say just outdoor 3 pin sockets and I don’t mind paying a few £ for the privilege if needed.
RSymons RSEV yeah my wife did the booking and didn’t check the charging possibilities!
Next time we will be more careful!😅
There are a few hotels and guest houses in the Lake District with chargers shown on ZapMap Dan......Plus around 6 in Kendal now. There are also a number of chargers in the Lakes and surrounding villages, being installed by Charge My Street - a company based in North Lancashire. They are installing there, plus in certain areas in the Lakes and surrounding locations. They are also working with Carlisle City Council to double the number of chargers in the city centre there.....
Thanks for the initial rule, my Tesla will be here very soon. I did spot you taycan at fully charged earlier in the year. 👍 Whilst I was riding the yellow lemon bus 🤣
Great stuff… SO informative. Pity most dealers aren’t necessarily giving new EV drivers a similar debrief or model-specific ‘how to charge’ knowledge before they take their new car away!
I think they’ll need to improve that side of it quickly, and almost certainly will.
I'm taking a long learning curve myself. Three months in and I'm still learning something new everyday. This week I'm learning voice commands. .. Last week, charging options
Another good video, thanks. Have you or anybody got any knowledge of using the ‘teslatap’ in the UK?
Many thanks for your videos they are really very smart and helpful
When my free charging days are over I'll be using a 3 pin, car set to 8 amps, for about 4 hours each afternoon, 32 miles per day added. I don't commute much during the week.
You can use Octopus Go for 5p/kwh from 0:30 to 4:30
I understand, I'm retired and don't usually drive 300mi in a month so I'm only charging every three or four weeks. At 1/4 charge on the gauge
Maybe someone can shed some light on v2g v2l options to charge car using night tariff and using this to power home at day when prices are expensive. Heard of the quasar bi directional charger. Any chance u can do a video. Heard it’s better than solar panels in uk.
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is Cornwall the only place we go on holiday it what you seem to be saying
Tesla can change the socket on older cars to the new ccs and its not that expensive to get done
Thanks for this. Really useful. I've just ordered my 1st Tesla and used your referral link. Hopefully it works.......
Focus on people who can’t afford a Tesla or other expensive cars you spoke about here
Be more considerate with people who can’t afford the high price cars you mentioned here
Thanks for mentioning the commando socket. I can't charge at home but I can at my Mum's about a mile away, although because it's not where I live, I wouldn't get the government grant, so I suppose I could just fit (pay an electrician) a 32A commando to charge from?
Can't afford much but was thinking of an older Leaf (6.6kwh charger) and any long trips hire a car.
I know for the US Model 3's they have to charge at a supercharger or chademo, is there any CCS to Chademo adapters and would this be possible in a Leaf?
Great video. Keep them coming 👍
Great vlog. Very informative.
At last, someone explaining about not charging over 80%, so much faster on journeys
Unfortunately not everyone can charge from home I am getting the new polestar 2 this week and have to rely on public charging and will be doing well over 100 miles a day any tips for me ?
Yeah, dont buy an electric car
Move house
Mega informative video, thank you
Great video, awesome content, Richard. Could you make a video about sentry mode? What do you recommend using for recording? USB stick? Memory card? What size? How to format it? Thank you!
My local council prohibit home chargers :( - need to use Source network (minimum £3 for 7Kw = 42p/kw, or £6.54 for 11/22kw at 59/29p per kwh or capped overnight at four hours- Ubitricity which is more than 5x the price of home tariff at 24p/kw). And also nearest residents to the two ubtricity lampposts hog them. so the other EV owners usually sit and pounce when free as attempts to make a rota failed. In the end I declined to get an EV this time.
how can a local council prohbit home charging, they litterally cannot do this as it would be illegal
@@Matttski purported enforcement of the highway act for non off street parking. Also liberal use of planning restrictions and enforcement notices.
Presumably if you had a driveway they couldn’t stop you.
A shame that Councils don’t try to help. I wonder how many of them would rather that you walked or took public transport instead. I know that Eastbourne are like that and East Sussex are still considering their plans for Ev charging so literally missing the money that the government are handing out to councils.
@@SirHackaL0t. the only limit in that case would be grade I or II listing. But as a London council most homes don't have driveway. Yes, they want more dependence on public transport overall. Probably the goal of ulez too for those who could only afford their old cars as it's a regressive tax that disproportionately affects lower income families.
@@chrisah1 Unfortunately removing older cars is a good way to improve air quality. Sad that it’s the poorer that are both affected by the ULEZ as well as the bad air quality.
Hi, Any suggestions about where offers cheap chargers installation. I've been quoted a minimum £1050 for a home 7Kw charger.
Hi Richard and hi everyone. Next month I will be travelling to the UK from Spain with my new Tesla Model 3 LR. It will be my first time in the UK so I'm very excited.
However I have been trying to plan my trips and the charging points for my 10 days in the UK, and I have seen that there are lots of different charging apps... I don't know which one to choose... that's completely insane... I will drive to Scotland too and I need another card to charge there... What should I do? Thanks!
Well I’ve decided to go to an EV for my first car as a disabled person with no access to a home charger but for how often I’ll actually need to charge for how far I’m likely to actually drive I think I’ll be ok and don’t really mind if the cost is comparable to petrol for the sake of better health for the planet and less guilt
I guess I just need to factor in where my nearest free charging is and then lowest cost fast charging is
Basic rule of thumb. If it's a tesla it's a real practical option. Anything else? It will be a right pain in the arse if you ever take it on a long journey ie: one charging point and its in use, slow charging points, charging points not working, a different app every time etc.
It’s time for an update!
Is there a CCS extension cable available for a Non Tesla, so I can extend the cable around the back of my car & so I don’t inconvenience anyone by taking a space up unnecessarily. (My car charges on the rear RH side).
Thank you.
Great video as usual thanks
Should I need to worry about about the exposed ccs ports, when using type 2 cables
We got a long range model 3 and were wondering wether we nedded a Tesla wall charger or just use the included 3 pin plug but we realised we need a wall charger
CCS adapter requires a small retrofit on older model s , can't remember the model year when you don't need the retrofit .
I'm sure Tesla can tell you... For a price.
Can we get a 2023 version of this video including how much it cost to run a cost roughly to run a car like a taycan if you can’t charge at home cheers
Really useful. Thanks.
Hi Richard, I'm not a Tesla owner, but would like to register with Tesla to use the charging network. I have registered an account on the website, and downloaded the app. I had to re-add my details in the app too. I can't add payment in the app, as it gives an error. The front scteen of the app only gives Tesla Car models. There is no option to charge anywhere.
I would have thought the app would bring in my card details from the Tesla account I set up in my PC browser??
Breaking the 80% rule seems to be the biggest issue these days - if you hit 80% plus and someone turns up to charge, move on a let them get some juice.
I've never had that problem, I usually only go out during the week. Leave the weekend for the plebs. 🙃😆😆😆👍👌
Don't they recommend don't use less than 20% and don't charge more than 80%?
@@doriangray6985 Yes, charging above 80% puts the battery in a stress state. You can do it slowly or fast occasionally, but smashing it everyday to the max is not healthy for the long term.
Why does Tesla recommend charging to 100% once a week?
My ohme charger can I join the blue cable that came with my model y to the ohme cable?;I tried and where I joined the cable it was loose and easy to seperate?
Out of date now. The Tesla super chargers are going to open up to everyone soon so this is really good.
The chargers you’ve shown one was really misleading. The eo genius (the white charger) is recommended more for fleet management not for a home charger. Why you mentioned that as a home charger in the opener was misleading. Eo Mini is the home charger. The rolec don’t even bother unless you want a building fire eventually the rcds burn out eventually.
I recommend Indra or zappi for home charging. The Tesla one isn’t great either
Very interesting, if your charging at home is it best to top up every time you leave your car, overnight etc, or is it best to get down to a low percentage and then to top up, I’m thinking mainly of ease of use and prolonging battery life. I’m a fan of your channel but still undecided on when to go electric, so I’m trying to gleam as much info as I can prior to taking the plunge!
Useful info and tips.
Great video- thanks.
Excellent info thank you
What the best option for 3 phase charging? If you have 100kva transformer at a commercial premises.
Can you just plug a Tesla straight into a commercial socket ? Most are 32amp
If you drive < 70 miles per day then I really can't see the point in a home charger. I set my M3P to charge at 00:01 and it charges at 8-10miles per hour (plenty) :)
These videos are awesome btw!
Just keep an eye on your wiring and socket; often ring mains have a 16Amp MCB and you could theoretically pull 13 Amps through each socket, but they weren't designed with the expectation of pulling maximum current for hours at a time.
Yes charging from 13a socket all the time isn’t ideal really. On your Tesla you can set it to a reduce current though. Adjust to maybe 8-10amp for that location. Saves the strain
The Tesla Granny charger will limit the charge rate to 10A automatically when using the standard 3 pin cable to stop overheating.
@@SirHackaL0t. the Hyundai charger I have with the Ioniq will do the same, have to set the amperage in the car though.
Don’t forget winter when you can warm the car without sacrificing battery as it is being topped up by the mains. Also, if you are on a tariff like Octopus Go, you can charge your car for 5p per kilowatt during the four-hour off peak window. It saves being stung by prices on public chargers. Of course, not everyone will have the ability to install a wall box.
Just a note on this video for later viewers like myself as of November 2023:
Lots of nice chargers popping up in my area... But the cost! Wow..
I have a hybrid, parity with petrol prices for mine right now are around 35p per kWh, most rapid chargers are now priced at 79p per kWh, instavolt are 89p! Some slow chargers are still around 30 - 50p p kWh & Tesla are 45p
But seriously.. these prices are unsustainable! It's gonna kill the pure EV market dead.
Summer holiday Rich? It’s a bit late for that mate 😜
Never had one in my 57yrs 🇺🇲 🤭😬☠
Very informative clear information. If I was looking for an EV would consider contact RS EV as Richard seems honest about "real world range" etc.
Is there any cost difference using the 50kW ove the 100kW ? Is the 50kW cheaper?
Hi, I’m getting a new Tesla in 2 weeks is the reward charging link now out of date? As the link isn’t opening up? Cheers love the vids mate
Newby question. Is there a type 2 to old Tesla adapter available or have most of the old Tesla plugs changed now at super chargers?
Really good, informative video. A couple of points though - 60% of Scots live in flats not houses, so home charging's a no-no. You can't get away from the fact that all EV charging takes a lot longer than fuelling a petrol or diesel car - and that, as a result, all EV drivers have range anxiety - I'm afraid I would find that very frustrating. BW.
On the Ionity chargers using the Ionity app, do you start the session on the app first and then plug in or do you still plug in first? I have had issues getting the charging sessions started and have had to call Ionity on a number of a occasions to sort it out.
I open app and start scanning code as I plug in. But yes if you plug in and after couple minutes haven’t authorised payment via your banking app for example, it can all time out.
They need to just have contactless payment at the machine.
If you use often, rfid card for them can help
At 69p per KWh you avoid Ionity completely!
Every charger I use states clearly plugin first!! 👍
"normally charge from home " people say that a lot .... do you live in the city ?
80% of house/flat in London dont have a garage or driveway ... its on street parking
You can always move. I wouldn't live in London on a bet. 🤭🤭🤭🤮😞😓
Re the CCS Adapter to allow a Tesla Model X or S use CCS chargers, do you know if this adaptor would also work on Renault ZOEs?
(The ZE22 and ZE40 only have Type 2 sockets, some ZE50s can have CCS fitted from new)
Which also only have a Type 2 socket. The earlier ZOEs hzve a Chameleon onboard charger and can charge at 11kw on AC and 22kwh on DC ( Q motor ZOE will charge at 41kwh) What do you reckon?
It won't work on anything other than a Tesla.
You can also get a Chademo adaptor for Tesla for about £150 on ebay.
Indeed, I should have mentioned, although becoming less useful. At least the car doesn’t need programming to use one (unlike the ccs)
I think the chademo adapter has a lower amperage limit that the CCS adapter though.
Thanks Richard
The whole system is a nightmare. Why they allow a jungle if types I do not know. Cables are often too short and contactless impossible
really helpful - thanks
How do you charge your rental electric car if you are a tourist from Australia, US or Canada? I hear, the European apps will not install on American phones. There is no such problem when you want to pay for gas aka petrol - pull your credit card and swipe.
Most chargers are simply contactless payment now.
Zap-map is my friend
That's how I do it when I travel. I haven't seen one that doesn't allow card payments. Leave the card co navigate the exchange rates I say. 👍😁
Great video
Time to update the video with the new prices and information about Tesco free no longer available but charges now will be incurred etc -
Great video thanks
Such a really informative and interesting video... Iv been looking at getting a Tesla Model 3 (company car) and have been uming and arhing to whether it would suit my needs. On average my daily travels can be 100-250 miles. Depending on if its a round trip or not... As charging to 100% isn't recommended each day, would a long range model 3 offer these miles on a daily basis?
With that kind of mileage I'd go for the long range, it will give you a buffer for winter and you could probably do 250 from 85% on the long range (even more if you drive sensibly)
I'm around that mileage too and my LR is arriving at the weekend. I'm hoping it'll be fine as a daily long distancer!
I've written quite a long answer, so for those of short attention span: as a company car driver it's a no brainer! It's so much cheaper than an ICE car as a company car and if you're doing a lot of travelling, the Tesla charging infrastructure is still miles ahead.
You should be fine with those distances. If you drive all motorway and are used to driving at 80 to 85mph you'll probably run out of range. Your choice will to lower your speed (you get a LOT further driving at 70). If you're driving long distances, it can be quicker to drive faster and do a top up charge - but obviously that's illegal in the UK anyway!
The recommendation about only charging to 80% is about long term health of the battery, as is avoiding rapid charging more than necessary. Bear in mind that even if you charge to 100% every time and always use a supercharger, Tesla guarantees the battery for eight years, so it's not a massive issue and definitely won't affect your use of the car while you have it. Charging to 100% does mean no regenerative braking when you first set off - probably doesn't make sense to you now, but once you're used to it, it's disconcerting when the car keeps going after you let of the accelerator.
If you use the "departure time" feature to preheat the car while it's plugged in, you minimise the effect of colder weather - and benefit from a toasty car that doesn't need scraping when you have an early start.
A lot depends on where you stop (customers premises?) Whether you stop for lunch and where, (normally Superchargers near "well known food outlets")
Are you suburban, A road, Motorway driving?
You should download a batter route planner and use it in the background with your current car, just tell it you're in a Tesla!
Should give a good idea of chargers in your routes.
Yeah model 3 would be perfect for you. 👌
90% charge fine, but regular 100% charging isn’t an issue if using. They just don’t like being sat stored like that all the time.
Was that Shell unit in Chandlers Ford. ?
Every time I go there it’s broken.
Eastleigh, at the fairly small Shell garage. Never had a problem with it (other than the contactless card reader once, so started from app)
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned anything about 800V architecture EVs of Hyundai Motors group because this is the future They are the fastest charging ones and even Tesla hasn't got this technology yet. Second thing is the battery charge time vs battery capacity. Most of us use home chargers just 4 to 6 hours overnight because of the tariffs and is important to know how many hours will take for a full charge. Tesla and Hyundai, Kia, Genesis are the most efficient EVs today and this is mandatory to know prior to purchase the new car. German, Japanese and French EVs are ages behind but the chinese cars are slowly taking over the market.
Great info here
Great video 😜👍
Didn’t the supercharging miles via referral link stop?
Note that you have to use the free 1,000 miles within 6 months. Never really had to use it much so had the make special trips to the supercharger. 🥴
Hi I just ordered model y and try to click on your link for free charge for new customer but the link doesn't work. Do you have a code I can used please
excellent. thank you.
If you install a Tesla Wall Charger at home…is that charger compatible with charging non Tesla cars?
excellent please talk a bit clearer on the cost per KW part
So if your Tesla was stolen the next time it was charged you would know exactly where it is?
Tesla, Hyundai, VW, Kia, all have tracking software as part of the standard GPS
How find out which Tesla charger work with none Tesla cars
Great video very helpful, I am about to buy my first electric Tesla , which model would you recommend Model 3 or Model S ?