Noah movie review
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- Darren Aronofsky takes on the story of Noah's Ark in a bold re-telling that is sure to raise more than a few protests. But such a mind bending director taking on such an iconic Biblical story might just be the recipe for greatness. Jeremy reviews "Noah"!
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Noah. If you like your biblical films with Transformers in them.
That does sound pretty awesome though
@@daustin8888 one shall stand, one shall fall
There hasnt been a good movie rendition of a bible story since the Prince of Egypt
FINALLY! Someone who understands!
Seriously, though, Prince of Egypt didn't beat people over the head with the Scriptures, outside of some opening text. Most religious films don't do that.
Well I liked how it managed to tell the story of God, Moses and the exodus but focused on the emotional relationship between Moses and Ramases.
The movie goes to far away from the actual story. Its too dramatized.
You said it
Erick .E Oh, yes. That is a good film!
"Uhng... the book was better..."
That's how I picture all the religious people who go see this movie
And what would be the problem with that?
haha
This strays from the bible so much
snezzle puff Funny thing though. Some of the more absurd crap. Namely the Watchers. They are in Enoch and the Dead Sea Scrolls.
KazeAizen the book of Enoch didn't make it into the bible because it didn't line up, it was not God inspired.
I'm a religious guy, and I find this movie to be badass.
Don't think all religious people are narrow-minded and old-thinkers, there's way more than that...
***** Proven?
***** Proven to be not true? Please, do you honestly believe that? Then please let me believe in God.
I never said I was a believer, athiest or agnostic. You're just making assumptions, but if you have proof, please share.
Believing is not about proving anything, it's about having faith. Having faith is a choice.
I do not live in America and ofcourse I do not think that God speaks only english. That would be a little ignorant wouldn't it? I am aware of the fact that I am broad up in a christian family, but I made the decision to believe in God by myself. Don't forget that you find Christians all over the world. Why on earth would you think that I say that atheists are clueless and wrong? I never said that and I never will, because that would be highly hypocritical.
The only reason why I don't like these movies is because everyone always ends up arguing over religion.
When will people realize that you're not going to win an argument when it comes to religion? At the end of the day, we don't know what's on the other side until we die.
So can we all just shut the fuck up, watch the movie like a normal person and get on with it.
I understand your point, but it's just a movie. Monotheists should be happy that a biblical story gets attention. and atheists (like me) should just practice their opinion and treat like any movie adaptation of a mythical story. It's ok for you to like the movie even if you don't believe it ever happened. Treat all myths equally and look at them as literature not as a documentary.
José Quintana Or it's actually people who just want to express their opinions. Don't generalize.
so agnosticism right?
Everything is about religion, get used to it.
Thank you. Finally, someone who has some sense. You know, If we all agree to swallow our pride and accept others' opinions for what they are, then the world would be a much better place. Other people are entitled to their own opinions just as you are, so shut up and get used to it. Not everyone in life is going to agree with you.
Ironic that religious people are mad about liberties being taken with the biblical Noah's Ark story when the biblical Noah's Ark story was stolen straight out of the Epic of Gilgamesh.
While much of Christian religion is stolen from mesopotamia, that is actually untrue. If you look at the two myths, they are radically different, save for the fact that there's a flood. Flood myths are across multiple religions, with no connection to each other.
Gibraltar Moorocco I don't think you understand what was meant. It is based off other flood stories that came before it. Which is TRUE because writers use and adapt other writers ideas to their own story or benefit.
Love your channel Dark matter! Keep up the great work!
Gibraltar Moorocco Let us examine some flood stories that predate the bible:
In The Epic of Gilgamesh, Utnapishtim and his family were the sole survivors of a worldwide flood. The earthwater god later regrets killing everyone in a flood.
The Sumerian Ziusudra flood story includes: the flood being a deliberate result of a divine decision, an individual chosen to be saved from the flood, that individual is given specific instructions for how to build an ark and what to bring aboard, the ark comes to rest on a mountaintop, the hero sends out a bird to reconnoiter the land, when the hero emerges he builds an alter and offers a sacrifice to the deity and receives a blessing.
In The Epic of Atrahasis "The land became wide and the people became numerous, the land bellowed like wild oxen. The god was disturbed by their uproar. Oppressive has become the clamor of humankind."
I'm not comparing the whole myths the way you suggest I am; just the flood parts, which is obviously all that's relevant in this Noah review, right? Interestingly enough, however, The Epic of Gilgamesh also contains a "plant of youth" and a thieving serpent.
DarkMatter2525 so what you think of the movie
As a Christian, lemme say this: THIS IS THE KIND OF BIBLICAL EPIC I'VE BEEN DYING TO SEE. No more shallow, simple-minded regurgitation of our first impression of a conveniently English translation of an ancient text. Real, passionate artistry and insight. Thank you, Aronofsky.
You sound jewish.
When you learn that the movie is from the Luciferian point of view…
It doesn't matter whether the story has been adapted properly to the big screen or not, religious people will ALWAYS complain and be pissed.
Talk about generalization....
Always?
Yeah, there is always a group of people that will complain. I'm not saying all religious people will complain, but there is always some of then that will do so
That is probably true
The Yellow Raven If anyone you are the complainer here.
I admit that I am a religious person. But religion is one thing and movies are another. The movie is just awesome, I saw it in 3D (HD's better) and I loved it. I didn't care it was inspired from the Bible, it is a good movie and people should consider watching it and forget about their religious beliefs for at least 2 hours.
why cant more people be like you
po1s0ned There are plenty of people like us, we just don't like to rub other people's noses in it... The same goes for those with other beliefs and lack thereof. I surmise we prefer to be silent on these issues because we lack the confidance for one reason or another. Meanwhile, those who really shouldn't be speaking, ruin things for the rest of us... (sigh)
metalheadmartyr Something to be said for beliefs that know when to keep their heads down.
po1s0ned There are, they just don't feel the need to comment, so your perspective is skewed.
nice nickname "messagerofhell" for a religious guy... :P
*SPOILERS*
I'm not religious at all (Atheist), and I thought the movie was stupid. It was just Noah (Who was actually sane in the bible) running around, trying to kill Emma Watson's baby. That's all it really was, I didn't care for the Golem's and thought the movie was boring. Bonus Thought: Why does Noah think God wants all humanity dead? If they all died, that would end his divine plan right then and there.
I'm a Christian and I agree with you. The only thing that was right was the boat...that's it. everything else was shit.
Yeahh your religious.
Yep crap review cos he wasnt actually insane in the movie he was just driven by his resposibility that was given to him (which was a lottt) the golems weren't really prominent in the movie anyway they were just to make it more interesting which it did and in the movie it said noah was given the choice by god to let humanity live or die sooooooo yh all ur points are now invalid.
I'm a Christian and I'm positive I'll enjoy this movie, even with the liberties taken! God gave us creativity and he wanted us to use it! This movie isn't saying "THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENED!" but instead it's just taking the story of Noah and exaggerating it for entertainment purposes! Can't wait to see this movie!
Its good. I'm in the same boat and it was good. When the Watchers show up they actually aren't making that shit up.
KazeAizen Yur in the same boat. HAH!! I see what you did there. ;D
...that WAS intentional, right?
Nenjamonky117 Actually no. I didn't even realize I did that until you pointed it out.
Well Jeremy's a Christian and he apparently enjoyed it.
***** I thought it looked interesting even before it came out.
Here is my problem with the movie. Noah's wife wore skinny jeans (80's style), the evil men used corrugated tin roof panels as shields, they had iron and serrated knives and if that wasn't enough, there was a Bazooka. I don't remember any of this from the bible.
Well it's a movie, it doesn't have to be that realistic. I mean, the actual Noah story from the bible is not even realistic to begin with. It's a story from a book that was written 3500 years ago
Enrique Salcedo
A Bazooka? You have to draw the line somewhere.
There are living rocks in this movie. Living rocks...and you draw the line at bazooka?
Hugo Joubert
I can compromise with what the "Watchers" look like but I almost turned it off when the men rushed in with the tin roof panels.
Its in the future Noah's knife that he uses to try and kill the children in a modern military knife. And the boots that Noah wore at the beginning had soles and looked like modern day boots.
Personally, being a christian, I'm FINE with people changing the story and making it their own, just so long as they dont take OUR story and make fun of us in the process, and this movie (From what I've heard) doesint do that, cool, I'll see it
Dear religious people: Relax. As a religious person myself, I wouldn't want to pay 10 bucks to see a movie about a dude just building a boat, so a rehashing of the story is called for. If you don't like it, don't see it, it's that simple. Go see the Son of God or there is a really neat animated bible story that's out there. it's tells the stories of the bible in different animations, the claymation is my favorite. check that out for fun.
-Laurel
It would be fascinating to see Hollywood would try and make a movie named Muhammed and see just how exactly Muslims would react.
They already did, "The Message"
But maybe you are referring to a modern take
Brandon McHenry Yes.
I wouldn't mind if there's a film such as the message referred above, as long as there's no funny depiction etc. I was not happy by the way with the film Noah as they made it funny plus poor direction , as a Muslim all prophets to me are at the same religious position . I know there is something called freedom of speech but at the same time there's respect to other . Thanks a lot
They could technically do the movie in 1st person and it would be ok Muslims are forbidden from showing what he night look like cause of idolism
why should there be any movie about ANY religion? its called disrespect
I think it's funny that the religious are getting upset about this movie taking liberties w/ the story of Noah, as if that story wasn't already ridiculous to begin with.
And that about sums it up right there.
Religious extremists and literalists are pissed off and quite frankly those tended to be the ones in power in Fox News :( As if the bible doesn't talk about some crazy shit anyway. I've read the book of Revelations. Why anyone hasn't tried to make a film series out of that crap is beyond me. It begs to be made
KazeAizen I think the Left Behind series did.
KazeAizen
It does, but I can think of two reasons it hasn't. 1. Some take it as using symbols in order to describe what would happen, and 2. It would be ridiculously expensive, bizzare, and scare the crap out of EVERYONE.
The closest I think we'll get to it is if they finally get around to making a live-action Evangelion movie. Or End of Eva.
***** They did but honestly I'm not really counting that. Now they told it in book form which I actually did enjoy because they did go literal with it instead of metaphorical which how Catholics tend to view the bible i.e. me. They also made a few movies but no one remembers them and they didn't finish the series. So I don't necessarily count them.
Guys, I am NOT going to make a comment on religion. Why? because I am fed up of people using videos like this as an excuse to exercise their bigotry. That goes for you to atheists.
you just made a comment about religion :') appreciate the message though :D x
How will this video help me exercise my bigotry?I just love fantasy movies.
I agree
Name He didn't say the movie would help you exercise your bigotry. Read his comment more carefully.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Okay, a minute and twenty seconds in, I gotta say this:
I am religious. I have read the Bible (more than once). And yes, license was taken with this movie. However, it also had some interesting interpretations, it stayed with the general spirit of the story, and, most importantly especially for a Bible movie, it was thought provoking.
In other words, you've got at least one religious guy here who was not ticked off by this movie.
***** Make it two
***** Hear hear
Brother, you are *not* alone
***** Yes it is a good movie and it is a good time with a grain of salt
I'm gonna have to agree with you on that one. I personally felt conflicted at the almost callousness they portrayed God through the actions that was going on. I definitely think that for the movie's angle, they made a good choice in making God a silent entity, yet you could feel his presence through what was going on.
I will say the one thing that I applaud the movie for is how it was able to give a quite disturbing portrayal of the corruption of humanity. There was no real clear cut lines as to beware of the devil, he shall lead you astray. I really got the sense that Satan as the deceiver definitely had a major impact on the movie's world, but it was like what he did was so behind the scenes and manipulative that the spotlight isn't really cast on him.
Also helps that the visuals were VERY beautiful. But I personally did find it a little too out there for these ancestors of the Hebrew people to be more like Dark Age Europe.
Ok, I was born Catholic and I some of these people bullshitting the movie because of the rock people?
The Bible had a talking snake, a talking burning bush, Waterbending, Provision Distribution Magic (Bread and Fish), Resurrection, Jesus exorcising an evil spirit off a man and transferring it onto a rabid pig that suicides off a cliff and the devil literally tempting Jesus but a Rock Golem thing is jumping the shark? OK.
Because it didn't even exist in the bible...
"Provision distribution magic"
This guy.
FutureIndieProductions
So? This was a different take on a story, not a word for word retelling of it. Like Jeremy said, this isn't a movie that was focused to be placed on a Church Sunday School so they can learn history from it, this was another style of telling it. No one is gonna view Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland and say "Wow, that's not what happened to Alice!" or "Wow, that's not the Sleepy Hollow I've read!" because that was not the point.
Even in the trailer you can already see it wasn't going to be something to please the Bible defenders.
FutureIndieProductions
Internet didn't exist in the bible either. Yet Jesus clearly lagged for 3 days before respawning.
Best part about this movie for me was people actually brought their kids to see it also. It was quite amusing to me to hear kids ask their parents questions during the movie. But really tho, I went into the movie not expecting too much but boy was I surprised at how well it was done and how much I enjoyed it.
THE ROCKS WERE ANGELS...NOW YOU KNOW LOL
I'm reading the comments and picturing people throwing science books and bibles at each other.
You people are funny.
HA! That actually is a good picture :P
It never stops surprising me how so many people can just not accept others. I mean like mind blown.
I throw both books, because most religious people are stupid, and most atheist are stupid as well. Both of them are blinded by the superficial things and th media that portrays both sides in a misunderstanding light, but in reality, they both have god points that can be good depending what one preferences. A religious individual who disregards science as an important concept in life for living and evolution are idiots. But Atheists who disregard religion as a concept that developed societies and individuals in an important manner are as well idiots.This is coming from me who is Majoring in Chemistry, but is also a Christian. XD
E3500 One might even go so far as to say that *gasp!* religion and science are not contradictory. What a shocking thought.
WombatProphecy Oh wow, people who are Christians yet follow science like me? Am I dreaming?
As a deeply religious person. I LOVED noah.
It's an excellent re-telling, that borrows a lot from Jewish lore. If you think that the golden substance and the rock Angels weren't religious, you have to read up on the subject a bit. Just because t wasn't directly from our standard bible doesn't mean it doesn't exist in other Abrahamic texts.
It was amazing.
Even though I knew they were Fallen Angels, the Watchers kept reminding me of the later Jewish myths of Golems. And that scene where they fall from grace was visually AMAZING!
And although I could see it as a more grim telling of the Biblical story, I swear I could almost sense a sort of...I don't know, new age belief in Yahweh (oldest name I know for our Abrahamic God)? With how they told the story of God creating everything, but it wasn't how it was word for word in Genesis, but as how geologists have theorized the earth was formed. Something I'm completely open minded to. Or how Adam and Eve were like these super meta humans.
It was definitely interesting and kept my attention throughout.
+Angel Van Dam aye to that. most of the 'unusual' things were more or less directly inspired by the 'Midrash' or Jewish mythology in simpler terms
I just realized Emma Watson looks like a younger version of Sigourney Weaver.
As a religious person, here's 2 things that piss me off:
1) Non religious people that thing that they are smarter than everyone;
2) Religious people that can't respect other people's opinions.
As an atheist I see this like a epic fantasy movie, like LotR.
The movie was okay. The movie was made from an atheistic director. It made Noah seem mentally psychotic and battling with demons in his mind. but all and all the graphics were great and I would buy it on blue ray.
i liked how they show Noah, a little extreme and dark but i liked, because he was kind of obsessed with following Gods orders and he almost lost all that was human about him, including love, because of this. And also because he saw the cruelty of men and he understood the why god wanted to do that, to clean the world from men
egroeg reyes I agree he takes his responsibility in this movie to an extreme. But god never asked him to kill the babies.
yeah thats true. I guess they built it up for hollywood not for the soul purpose of going by the Bible.
***** sarah hooper i think you need to relax
Its a movie about the bible? So its a fictional story, I see.
I think its more of a folktale than a fiction. It is supposed to be taken figuratively not literally.
***** the flood story comes from Epic of Gilgamesh and the mountains move and use to be underwater, its understandable to find fossils on the mountains. this is mythology but people believe in mythology
first of all the clam shell fossils that were found on mt Everest are proof of rising plate tectonics. not proof of a mythical flood. there is absolutely no scientific evidence to support creationism. the bible is not a scientific textbook so you shouldn't be taking anything you read in it literally. its all similes and metaphor"s.
Haha Wow, NOW I really want to see this movie! Anyone who thought Darren Aronofsky of all people would direct a "faithful and religious adaptation of Noah" are frikken stupid. I've been wanting a cinematic portrayal of the Bible like this for a long time.. a sense of realism and thinking outside of the box.
I'm a fairly Bible-thumping religious person on a certain level, and I read the story in the Bible a few times. Here's the thing about the Bible story: there's not a lot of detail for what was very likely a very complex event. Therefore I have absolutely no problem with the director/screen writers/producers taking on some creative license.
ike evans there was almost certainly very little complexity about the Noah story.
The last ice age caused melts and floods all over the earth, hence the survival stories turning up in so many places. Stories that would have been shared and embellished into mythology over hundreds or possibly thousands of years around firesides.
The emergence of writing in the middle east meant that the story of Gilgamesh was one of the first that was actually *written* down.
This particular story has since been plagiarized in both the bible and the quran.
See nothing complex at all.
***** Not to get all apologetic on ya, but the plagerism bit is highly disputed.
ike evans disputed by whom?
It is undisputed that the story was around before the bible was written.
***** The flood myth is replete throughout the world. Even the Mayan Pol Pol Vuh has an eerily similar story. I've read several debates between scholars on the subject (I'm too lazy to get you a reference) and there is some dispute as to who is borrowing stories and who is the originator of stories between the Hebrew culture and their neighbors. I'm not terribly interested in debating this subject as it is something that is above my pay grade (I'm not a scholar in this field), and I don't want to take the hours to re-research books I've read on the issue.
ike evans I have already stated above the story is repeated around the world. There is no dispute about that.
I have also stated the likely scenarios of how they get embellished by word of mouth.
The middle east was one of the first places to formulate the written word and this was also one of the first places the Gilgamesh/Noah story was recorded as such in written or cuneiform format but not until long after it had been around numerous camp fires and changed.
The existence of the stories is not in dispute, but they are not true as written in the 'final draft' as it were.
I absolutely adore Darren Aronofsky. He has never disappointed me before. Probably the best director of our time (except Nolan, Scorsese and Fincher)
***** I dont know why religious people would be mad at this movie. im christian and i thought it was awesome. we know is not exactly what happen but at the end of the day it still had the message behind it.
well, of course it isn't exactly what happened. Noah's Ark is a parable based on older flood stories, not literal.
Lord Parbr Hey man you can believe whatever you want. is your life. ;)
I don't "believe" it's a parable. I know it is. There is absolutely no evidence outside the bible that there was ever a worldwide flood. If there were, there would be a giant ark somewhere (or some record of it outside the Bible), we would find tons of human remains who died from drowning in the flood waters (men, women, and children), we would find a sedimentary layer of the Earth's crust that's just a weird mixture of different sediments, and we would find dead remains of aquatic life in deserts and too far into mainland for it to get there any other way. We don't see any of that.
I used to be fine with letting people believe what they want, but ever since Christians started getting Creationism into the schools as a "science" lesson, I can't anymore.
Lord Parbr
"There is absolutely no evidence outside the bible that there was ever a worldwide flood"
Like just about all the events of the bible, actually. Most people would examine that evidence(or lack thereof) and go "Oh, it must all be myth, like the norse or roman accounts of creation", not "oh.... I know! it's parable! hah, whew, almost had to question my belief there for a second"
Lord Parbr Faith. That's all I have to say.
Jeremy, bro, when are you gonna review the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles trailer? Get on that shit.
Yeah, I been looking all over his channel for that shit.
I think it just came out within the last few days. He must not have seen it yet. He will flip his shit when he sees it.
Them turtles hit people really really really hard, apparently.
Lol!
Michael Bay with his overpowered good guys, man.
For the many of you that didn't know, this movie is based off of a comic book. A comic book that the director and writers of this movie created several years back. It was a sci-fi fantasy rehashing of the story of Noah. A beautiful and epic story that the movie stayed faithful to, for the most part. So, of course it's not going to be like the Bible story, because it was not based off of the Bible story. Anybody who tries to compare it to the Bible story to justify their disappointment and anger with this movie, is seriously stupid. I'm sorry, but people need to do a little research before they start ranting.
true dat but i think if the trailers had mentioned that it was based of a comic book, the controversy would have been minor.Like when 300 came out they made it clear it in the previews it was from frank miller's graphic novel so it was pretty obvious it wasnt sticking to the original story event and some characters were fantasized but this movie's trailers never made it clear n seemed to be an actual adaptation of the original story. just my opinion :)
Sure, but most comic book movies don't really state that they're comic book movies.
true i guess this is one of those cases lol
NOAH=BIBLE...THAT'S IT...NO ALTERNATIVE COMIC BOOKS NEED TO BE MENTIONED.
What does that have to do with it being a shitty movie that made no sense? Jupiter Ascending had a more coherent plot.
I find it funny actually. Some Athiest can't just respect others beliefs and say ignorant things about others beliefs. This is someone's review of a movie. Keep the topic to that instead of making a "Religious War" in the comments.
You confuse vitriol with ignorance. I'd have more positive things to say about religion if I weren't educated.
No, I'm pretty sure it's ignorance. I've looked through the comments. More than 1/2 of the insults to Christianity were contradicting to the source material itself.
It was based off ignorance. Why can't people just respect others beliefs? Oh wait, we're on the internet, people will do anything.
But my comments still stands. Leave this so-called "war" out of someone's video. It makes everyone seem immature and can't talk about the actual video itself.
***** the bible says stone homosexauls to death. Have you even read it?
I have read the new testament. Jesus brings us the greatest commandment. "Love everyone" Have you read it? No? Oh, again, more ignorance.
What about these, do you remember these?
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth; I came not to send peace,but a sword." Matthew 10:34
"I came to cast fire upon the earth" Luke 12:49
"And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes." Luke 12:47
I am a christian and this was a really good movie, thoroughly enjoyed it. In fact I enjoyed more than passion of the christ
Anyday. This was inspirational!
Were you supposed to enjoy TPOTC? LOL!
nenabunena Passion was still a bad movie lol
Ok I get that the story of Noah is barely a page, but rock people seriously? Thats going a bit far....
Completely agree, like in that movie where Thor smash Ironman in the face. That's going way too far.
Maka Nitipisanon No thats accurate to the source material, that being Marvel comics not the actual Thor. Rock people were nowhere in Noah's story.
Exactly! The source material for this movie is Noah comic not the Bible
Maka Nitipisanon What comic? There was a comic?
Maka Nitipisanon Ok I looked up the comic and that doesn't count as the comic was written by some of the same people and was made from an early version of the script for the movie. And the comic came out second.
I thought you were going to slam this movie to be honest.
People aren't going to agree with me, but I actually sympathized with Noah a little in this movie. I mean, I know what the feeling of pressure is like. When the creator of everyone and everything gives you a task, you're not going to say no...moreso, you're going to be paranoid out of your fucking mind to get this job done right and not fuck it up, and for Noah, he was convinced that God wanted everyone to die, including them. That scene where he realizes that his (kinda sorts) daughter is pregnant and that he's going to have to kill a baby? He's completely heartbroken. So I don't think he's a dick. Mentally unstable, sure, but he's under an enormous amount of pressure and is in too deep to turn back.
Very happy to see that Noah is getting such good and positive reviews. Although many Christian's are divided, myself as an ambassador of Christ and fellow believer - love this movie!
***** Congrats on being a douche. You sir are part of the problem, NOT the solution.
***** I'm going to be the the gentleman and forgive you're crass/rude remark. Society is divided and too filled with poison. I'm not going to contribute to that anymore. Instead I will appeal to everyone that we all think, respect each other and reason. That includes my brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ.
still waiting for my lucifer movie.....
you have as icon a image Baphomet, you call yourself with a play on Satan and want a movie about the Light From East.
idk about michael bay... XD
Sa tan
well, it would have sunsets, explosions and hot ladies, I would not have a problem with that...
lol
*****
'n' dem 'copters
"I don't think they'll be showing this version in Sunday school." Is what I said on Facebook before I saw this.
its not a religious movie
Yes it is.
no its not.
i bet the next video will be about the trailer of tmnt xD
you gotta say something about it..
Why do atheist think Christians are the annoying ones? I dare you to go through all the comments in this video and look at all the arguments. 99% of the arguments all start from an atheist saying Christians are stupid, retarded, etc. Like, wtf? I have yet to see a Christian in the comment section be pissed off at the movie because it doesn't follow the exact same story as in the bible. If there's not an argument, don't start one. Atheist start the hate, and it's only logical that Christians will respond. Just saying. Try to makes this world a peaceful place (:
Please leave
Generally speaking, atheists start trouble with Christians by baiting them into a discussion, then pelting them with all kinds of complex questions...knowing many Christians sadly can't explain why they follow Christ aside from the Bible. That's why doing research outside the Scriptures is so important, because science can actually be used to back up Biblical claims. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Some of you are annoying because you come here and try to defend the story of a world-wide flood... Something for which there is no evidence for and you come and act like it's fact and people actually comment to what you say and encourage you with "amen, brother", "preach it", or "God bless you". And you get likes for such an idiotic post. I don't care if you believe it happened, but don't come here and comment and say it's fact and that there's evidence for it. When you do that then yeah I'm going to comment back and tell you you're crazy and if there's evidence then feel free to share it. And when you don't, and I call you out for being a liar then don't bitch because atheists are "bulllies" and "intolerant". If you wouldn't lie and spread bullshit or had evidence for the things that you claim were true I'd have no problem with you. That or you could just keep it to yourself and we'll continue living in the real world.
There's tons of evidence for the Flood, but atheists reject it because they don't want to be held accountable by God. A worldwide flood is a huge task, which could only be accomplished by a supernatural being...and Someone with that much power could also judge humanity for its sins again, just like in Noah's day.
If there is tons of evidence maybe you could name some of this evidence and provide links? That'd be very helpful. P.S.- I know you're lying because there is no evidence for the flood and you're just delusional.
It's A Story Of The Bible Without Mentioning God Once 👍🏼
hehehe
The creator smh
Aug 14th- it's not of the bible. it's from the Torah
"The creator has called him hone!" Had me in tears. That whole scene had me chocked up for pretty much the whole scene. On short, it was epic. See it. Just see it.
It kind of hurts me that people have no respect for the Christian religion. Yes, it requires a lot of faith in the unseen. Yes, people have done terrible things in the name of religion. But there is an unmeasurable amount of good that has come out of Christianity and religion in general. Countless organizations and churches help the needy, poor, desperate, and addicted every single day. Education itself was first established by the church. These things don't get publicized as much as the negativity. If you were to wipe all religion off the planet, I think you'd be surprised what humanity would turn into.
You talk about respect for the Christian religion, but might I remind you that in many parts of your 'Good book' it teaches you that all other religions are false, that in my book is not very respectful. And yes while I agree that many good things have come from religion, the bad far outweighs the good and all it creates in our modern life is conflict. you ask what the world Would be Like Without religion, well it Would Be a damn sight better than what it is now.
There have been a GREAT amount of terrible things done in the name of the religion. Christianity isn't a religion, it's a belief. Education existed since the first animals roamed the earth, billions of years ago. Education was not first established by a church. Forcing beliefs upon a group of indigenous people is not education. I believe there is a God, and I use the bible for guidance at times. I respect Christians, I work with Christians. Religion is an excuse to conquer a people. Religion is the same as politics. Without Religion there would be great peace.
Sorry but a belief in a deity is a religion. But yeah pretty much everything else you're saying I agree with
Josh Haines whoops, I kind of dropped the ball on that "Christianity isn't a religion" Thanks for the education.
Where's all the outrage over Thor? Talk about taking liberties.
They did, but that shit was blown over.
Yeah, all those damn a-Thorists are all alike... Why can't they just leave us alone with our faith in the giant hammer.
Eh i got pissed with Thor being a super hero though. I like him being this blood god who strikes with hammer and war and stuff is what i think of vikings. Tunics, helmets, axes etc. So i guess i am one of those guys who hate Super heroes and them having to add mythological stuff like Thor in it :P
Haven't watched the film (yet), but if I'd written it, I'd have made the end turn out to be a huge misunderstanding. After the flood, the survivors travel for a while and come to completely untouched land, discovering that their supposed global flood was really just a flooding of all land as far as they knew it.
Which is the only plausible explanation for the flood myths we know of. There are certain consistent points of evidence to be expected if a global flood had happened, none of which exist. You can only take a totally ridiculous leap of faith and hold on to the idea that all the robust evidence was warped and eliminated after the flood. Such an elimination could only be performed by the mythical God, which would be exactly at odds with this God's stated purpose of making people obey and fear him.
Ah so youre one of those people who read the Noah story once or maybe heard of it and think that makes you an expert...
Ben Fox Hmm, nope, sorry, your description isn't accurate.
Ah, it wouldn't be a religion related video without atheists pushing their barely researched "facts" in everyone's faces that don't actually prove or disprove anything and put everyone back to square one (i.e. pointless bickering). This needs to stop.
This explanation really makes sense if you think about it. In those days the "world" to them was just where they were. So maybe the "whole world" was just a large area where the civilization Noah lived in was.
Death's Hand I sense an incoming shitstorm/flood. "barely researched "facts" Oh really? Your main basis for your belief is faith, like most beliefs. Haven't you ever stopped to think to yourself: "what created us?"? If you have and if hasn't been decided for you by your family, the best you can come up with is a flying magical zombie man? I made a Macho Man religion which is much more creative then yours.
Today, my CHRISTIAN SCHOOL saw Noah and everyone's mind (including mine) was burned and thrown away.
That "Requiem For A Dream" face killed me!! One of my all-time favorites!
Thank you Jeremy for giving us a mature non-biased review!
I go to Catholic school and my religion teacher said it was one of the best bible interpretations hes seen. Also, Darren Aronofsky really read up on his theology with the rock monsters because those come from later stories telling about Moses' grandfather, I can't remember the name of it however.
"it was one of the best bible interpretations hes seen"....wow. i strongly suggest you read Genesis for yourself. it wont take long at all. then think about that statement coming from a teacher.
what later stories of Moses' grandfather? "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown." the nephelim (giant offspring between fallen angels and human women) are what the director chose to turn into rock monsters. seems to me the director should have just given the movie a diff title.
super16g123 We went over Genesis for quite a while actually. And I meant Noah's grandfather, not Moses. I'm not sure what the name is, but it was seen as unimportant to the Bibles plot so it wasnt officially added. i may have that wrong, but whatever.
KingLoop13 You mean the book of enoch? which was left out of the Bible.
Francois vn Yes, thats it.
still, if it was the book of Enoch that the director chose to add to the story. we are still talking about the fallen angels (watchers) mating with human women and altering the human gene pool. these angels being barred by God from ever ascending again because of the infraction and Noah's line being selected to restart humankind because his bloodline remained pure. if they were going to take liberties with the bible and include non biblical text like the book of Enoch. it just seems lame that best they could come up with out of all the interesting things in Enoch were rock monsters. that arent in either Enoch or the Bible. if they were going to go there than they should have just gone there.
They handled this movie not in a religious preachy way, but in a mythological legend way, and that's very good. Instead of "hey guys, this happened and it's a fact," it's "there is an interesting tale of epic proportions, here you go and take what you will from it."
The way Noah carried out, I feel like this is a movie that believers and non-believers can both enjoy, and that's what these kind of movies should be. They shouldn't be made just to reconfirm the believers' beliefs, but they should be made and displayed out in the open, so even the non-believers can still say that it is an interesting story set in an interesting world
I will say, I am going to see this. I like the idea of taking the story from the bible and interpreting it differently. Why does everyone take the bible word for word? It wasn't originally in English, it was written in Hebrew and Aramaic and that makes me believe that what we read now isn't what it was meant to say. I take it as a more poetic and symbolic book, and I'm curious to see how the director interpreted the story.
Yea so what they say is certain parts of the Bible are meant to be interpreted differently. The story of Noah comes just a few books after the story of creation so you can’t think it’s meant to be taken word for word. I heard a scholar say the first 15-20 books of the Bible are like a poem (think Beowulf) no one really knows what happened but it’s the story and the stories meaning that matters
Look at these kiddies making fun of people's faith, its about time they grow up.
I'd give this movie an awesometacular.
It deserves Oscar Nominations for three categories.
1. Cinematography
2. Directing
3. Score
as if the true story aint bullshit
Haha
Replace noah with kratos add dubstep+ win
Requiem for a dream is one of the best films ever made.
Can biblish become a real word please
Lol well said Jahns, "Religious story are boring" and if religious people are pissed, probably means it's interesting, In Bo Burnham's "What?" he pretty much summed up the bible in a few words, "Who needs a hundred metaphors to tell you you should be a dick?" and Russel crowe usually makes ancient movies awesome IE Gladiator
As a christian I liked it. I didn't expect very much so I guess it was't that hard to impress me. However, my favorite part was that it encouraged me to research Noah's Ark and I learned quite a bit. The movie actually interpreted it well. There, believe it or not, WERE GIANTS, but in The Bible the giants, or Watchers, were angels sent to Earth to watch the humans but they had a lust for women which made them sinners so they were cursed until judgement day. The other part that was different but I could roll with because it's a movie, was the unnecessary tension about Russel Crowe killing his grandchildren. God did not intend to kill mankind. The ark had Noah and his wife, and his 3 children and their wives.
That's not in the Bible.. What 'research' are you talking about?
And god did intend to kill mankind.. That was the purpose of the flood that he created.
Cure4Living Oh damn. You're going with the 'pre-proofread' Bible. It's pretty disingenuous to not disclose that.. Most Christians have no idea the bible wasn't crafted directly by god and was perfect when it hit the earth.
I haven't read the cannon, only KJV
Gary Sanders First I want to apologize to all the Christians I disappointed by conveying false information. I talked with my small group leader (who is going to be a youth pastor) tonight and he said after having a conversation about this briefly earlier this week that that is partially not true. The name "The Watchers" and that story is completely made up. What The Bible mentions is angels that went to earth based off a lust for human women. It is debated that the Nephilims existed. They are not in The Bible but some people believe the fallen angels and children with humans.
(Also God did NOT mean to kill mankind. We know that because nowhere in The Bible does it mention Noah failing him.)
"God did not inted to kill mankind"? Did a pretty good fucking job to me. If you kill everyone except 1 fucking family you pretty much killed mankind and you deserve a trophy for being the biggest douche in history. BTW the Angels that lust after human women is known as the second fall of the angels. They are the ones that teached humans how to craft weapons and other forbidden shit in exchange for sex. If you dont think God intented to kill the ppl he left in a world filled with water and no rafts or boats then you are a fucking moron. do the world a favor and walk past a 1000 ft drop because you are a fucking waste of space on this earth.
Jack Burton relax.
This movie was fucking depressing especially when
*SPOILERS* *BELOW*
Ham's girl got trapped in that bear trap and when Emma Watson's character had her twin daughters and Noah almost killed them :'(
I haven't cried in a long time.
Spoilers*
I really wished ham could have kept the girl, that would have made me happy... But no, Noah became a heartless bastard, and he didn't let her live
snezzle puff I really wanted to punch Noah in the face most of the movie. lol
Yea I saw Requiem for a Dream the other day. Pretty crazy movie.
Ass to ass!
No you didn't.
i have no idea why but i've been avoiding that movie for so long
and depressing as fuck
Vaas Montenegro It's only depressing if you're addicted to heroine
Finally a movie about me. About fucking time!
And me!
Same here. You can't see it, but my name is Noah as well.
bring up religion, then everyone suddenly knows how the universe works. internet never fails
Never saw a movie that more deserved the phrase "polishing a turd." The acting and directing were top notch, but the story... not so much.
Noah was a great film. Aronofsky really made it feel like an ancient world and I hated Noah because he was a dick to everyone including his own family. But in the end he realized that love is stronger than any god.
Hm, there are a few things that you either might have missunderstood or it were horrible movie mistakes because Noah was not a d*ck, he was one of the few people that were still good among all the evil on earth. And also, I don't think that "love is stronger than any god" was a message in this story, because there is no greater love than God, the real God.
But hey, I haven't seen the movie, so maybe it's just me or maybe the movie changed the original story.
Eline Swarts Oh yes, Noah was good but he was human. So he was not only good but bad too and I liked that the movie showed this :) you should see it!
God's love is as greater than any love. I just saw the movie and that was not the message. The main message was we all have sin, which makes it hard to do the right thing. There were so much more messages, but love being greater than God was not it. God is love.
I'm a religious person and I loved it. It was a creative spin and many things connected well in the end. If these people are so called "religious", then they should already know the story of Noah... It's good to see something different for a change and it really did have a nice spin.
Bernhardina Hörnstein Yeah I know, for humans it's impossible to always be good, so ofcourse Noah had flaws. But he was connected and loyal to God and that's why God saved him. I might go see the movie, I'm not sure yet.
desmond1193 Oh well, the message was clear to me :) because Noah was obsessed with following Gods orders and he almost lost all that was human about him, including love, because of this. I don't really see what you mean when you say God is Love because God destroyed humanity with the flood, not only bad people but good people too.
The movie version of my favorite fairy tale!
I was still a believer when this movie came out and wouldn't watch it cause it was inaccurate. Now I can enjoy it for the epic myth that it is.
u know whats also epic? metro last light.
Lol true dat
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*Do you know what's also epic? Grammar.
You all needed translate since TH-cam still doesn't understand 'dat'
The problem is that this IS going to be marketed as a Christian movie. If it was marketed as just an environmentalist movie which it is people wouldn't be offended. Christians & Muslims are both offended because it is being marketed as something it isn't. Why would anybody question Christians having a problem with this movie? If somebody made a movie claiming to be about evolution & made it a movie about intelligent design don't you think atheists would be furious? This is the same thing.
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I'm Catholic and I thought this movie kicked ass.
So are stone men supposed to be more far-fetched than everything else in the bible? What, is it not the right type of magic? That's amazing.
I have not seen the movie, but I think the problem with it is that demons helped create the ark. (I think the stone men were demons)
Technically, they aren't "part" of the Bible, but a section that was considered to be added in, called the Book of Enoch. The Book of Enoch explains the "rock people", and they are no friend of man. In video games you can get away with it (ex. Darksiders, with the Four Horsemen being the Nephilim), but directly based faith media is another matter.
They aren't demons. They are Nephilim. Nephilim are the children of angels that mated with human females, creating giant monsters that only destroy. Essentially evil. Their dads became Satan's demons.
Psythr666
Thank you sir, for expressing the knowledge that most people nowadays......do not even bother to look up.
Noah B. I saw it tonight and the stone men are fallen angels
They aren't the most ridiculous thing, but adding them into this section of the story (and what they do) was ridiculous.
I'm religious and I loved this movie.
How many novels have you read that when turned into movies are 100% the same? This is the same thing with the exception that the "Novel" is a couple of pages long and still ppl debate if it happened or not. Mad about rock monsters, because they were not included on the original story? Well if you are mad about that wait until they also tell you that the "Hell" ppl are so fond about is not real neither, LOL. Hades became Hel wich in turn became Hell...So yah, in a 100 years we might have Rock Monsters, the Hulk, maybe a couple of Care Bears and Lady Gaga in the Bible xD
I like this comment!
im religious and I don't care what they do to the story as long as its a good movie
+AlienBusDriver1 again what religion?
Jewish
yeah i mean that kind of changes things not as much as a Muslim would but just make sure next time you mention what religion your from so you don't confuse me and other people.
why does that have anything to do with anything? jews believe in noahs ark
well its still different from a christian
If you wanna see a boat building happy family time movie go watch Evan Almighty
If you wanna see a much cooler version of that, Watch Noah
Cant even fathom how many religious people will feel butthurt when leaving this film
I saw the movie and if you are a religious zealot then you will hate it. I'm a Christian and I know the story and message of Noah but OMG it was a great, heart filled movie! For the idiots that will not get the message in the movie, but it is explained at the end, God gave man a second chance to live better and for God not for themselves, He did it out of love, also Noah explains why God flooded the Earth is because, water purifies and only the strong survive. Some of the story is Hollywood bullshit but it does not take away the main plot of it all. The rock monsters are angels that are punished for leaving heaven to save man after Adam and Eve were cast out of Eden. When you watch the movie, you seriously see how cruel and evil man can become. Makes you wonder where are we going now. In a nutshell, the world is shitty, few good people left (Noah and is family), Angels help Noah and in the end are forgiven for their betrayal by simply asking for forgiveness upon death (New Testimant spoilers!), bad guys lose, Noah starts it all over, man is given a second chance. Yay! If you are Christian, see the movie with an open mind and know that God can do anything so why not send angels to help us? Also, all records of the days before the flood are lost so God only knows what REALLY happened. Go, enjoy the movie, remember the lesson and have fun. God praises man's Art, and a movie is a piece of Art. so enjoy it! I certainly did!
What? All of that praise and no Awesometacular? Son, I am disappoint.
no religious movies deserve awesometacular
Masterofmind999 I completely agree with you. Noah (from all the reviews I've read) is nowhere near a "religious movie". Sure, it might have some religious historical context, but to call this movie a "religious movie" is far from an over-generalization. It's like calling "Pulp Fiction" an introspective look into modern american society and culture. Personally, I'll admit I wasn't the biggest fan when I heard Araonfsky was making this film but now that's it out and it's getting some very positive reviews I think I may have to stop by my local theater and check it out.
***** Way to not get the reference.
***** "Son, I am disappoint" is a meme, a pretty old one though.
The Harmelody Network Yeah. Now I WILL generalize a little. No Shyamalan movie will ever deserve an Awesometacular.
not biblically accurate..... hmmm....
the bible is filled of symbolism right?
so we might say an equivalent of Greek Mythology?
(even though many myths have been proved to actually depict real things or sometimes even real historical events, their symbolic reference remains to be just that, symbolic.....)
Moving on...
We have another film for my whole point to be made.
300, which was NOT based on Greek Mythology but ACTUAL Greek History, or in fact, based on a graphic novel which was based on Greek History.... Hence, the source material was actual events, not symbolism...........
Question- Did you see everybody (especially every Greek on the planet) bitch about 300 being historically inaccurate? Which by the way had more reason to be accurate than Noah did? No, we enjoyed the damn film cause it was awesome.
Frank Miller created his own symbolism and graphic novel representation on historical events and changed a lot of things around, and it still worked as a film.
So why can't something like that work for Noah? Which was symbolic mostly to begin with?
Point being? Chillax people. Chillax and try to enjoy some pleasures in your life. Half of you complaining sound like you are still in the Dark Ages.
I almost expected to see someone call out BLASPHEMY in here. Just, chillax!
I can enjoy the film itself as a FILM, but the problem is it DIVERTS from the idea or I suppose the main theme or morale the Flood Story was about. At least in my opinion.
LikeabossIBA yeah I think I know what you mean.
Digital Creative Front A film adaptation should at least make the character somewhat like the original and have some of the same themes, does this movie do that? No it is a shit film because it gets the stories themes wrong and does a HORRIBLE job at portraying the characters. The creators of the film call this portrayal of Moses some kind of magi, I'm thinking, what do magi have to do with the story of the ark, nothing and that's the problem, if you stray too far from the source material, then your no longer making a adaptation, your making a different film entirely. And if you do, then DON'T CALL THE MOVIE NOAH ANYMORE. Honestly if this movie was just Called by a different name and didn't outwardly portray itself as a biblical adaptation, no one would be able to tell the difference. In fact this movie advertising fools christians into seeing it because it doesn't show the rock people, nor does it show any of the scenes which badly portray the characters. So this movie was just a horrible and shit film adaptation that didn't need to be an adaptation in the first place.
I'm a Christian and after watching the movie went home and read the story of Noah from the Bible. I don't think they went too far away from the story. Yes they added more but its a story from 5 or so chapters. Not much to go on. I see why a lot of people were mad but all in all it was a good story real or not. It was epic and a good watch. Keep an open mind.
SO CALLED "CHRISTIAN" the movie is based on kabalah,has nothing to do with the bible,made by god haters and lucifer worshipers
Yea, I heard it wasn't like Noah in the bible. So I guess I'll wait for "Moses" because fire tornadoes and parting seas would look epic on the big screen.
That sound even more epic
This is one of the worst movies I have watched in a very long time. I was expecting something more deep and realistic. Like Noah been the patriarch of a tribe that built many arcs or something. But, the truth is that this story never made any sense to me as a child. It doesn't as an adult.
Okay and what is it that doesn't make sense?
firstly i dont want to assume your beliefs so ill ask are you an atheist or a theist. 2nd point how could a noah movie be realistic? as you can guess im an atheist lol
The original story isnt even realistic to begin with, so I like this version more because it is presented more as a fantastical story with more interesting things happening.
Even if you're a christian or not, you can still enjoy it for what it is.
Im an atheist and I liked it, Darren Aronovsky is a great director.
I really enjoyed the film and liked the way the director tried to interprete the character
is movie was so good to much people like to sit and let movies and tv tell them what to think and whats right and wrong this movie was the best for the year so far
I'm a Christian and I have to say while this film took some created licence it is still very accurate to the source material. This is a great awesome movie.
It would be funny if on the cases of movies they said "Has a Jahns rating of 'BUY IT ON BLU RAY'!" Except the person who buys it on DVD will look down and walk away depressed. Just my random thought...
If someone wants to make a movie where there's a flood, and a war happens, fine. You can make that movie. But if someone makes a movie based on something historic, religious or otherwise, you have to keep to the main morals of it.
Noah changes it from saving humanity to that they are to be the last people on Earth which is complete defiance of the original story.
Basically that's the equivalent of taking a story but removing or changing the main point of them. The main point of the story was never that Noah made the Ark or survived the flood, the main point was that because Humanity was corrupt God was going to start over with the most pure people on Earth.
I see comments saying that it was boring and this made it interesting. Well that depends on your perspective of boring. From what I see a lot of the original Noah story that DID match up in this could have held its own regardless. And even if it were boring, the story is meant to teach not entertain. A lot of people find reading about World War 2 boring, and others find it incredibly interesting. You don't need to destroy the plot to fix that.
And to those saying "But it's not true so they can change it" well I can go on and on debating whether it's true or not but regardless it's still something that does and will offend a culture and if you can avoid doing that you should.
They didn't NEED to change the story, they didn't NEED to change the morals. But that's how Hollywood works.
As for children learning this in Sunday School I agree they probably won't, but they'll still find out about it. That is certain. And many WILL consider this to be the true story. The next generation of Christians thinking that God wanted to wipe out all life and just leave the animals and that we're just an accident. That's wrong.
As I stated at the beginning, if you want to make a movie about a flood, war, and some other aspects feel free. It can even seem ALMOST like Noah, but don't call it, or compare it to Noah because that's not what this is.
Don't you get it? In the film, it shows that Noah was wrong about them being the last humans. As he blessed his family and told them to go and multiply, God sent the rainbows to show that He was happy. The rain also stopped when Ila announced her pregnancy. They made it very clear that it was not God's plan to wipe everything out, just that Noah misunderstood.
why do you have to keep the main morals to it? Embellishment makes every bad story a good one.
Zack NightShade That's still changing the story. Noah never thought everyone including his family should die.
Ramathorn No it really doesn't. Certain embellishment can, but it's not an instant win. And I want to keep the main morals because that's how they were meant to be interpreted, not how we want them too for story excitement.
TakTheFox While there is no mention of this in the Bible, it doesn't change the overall story. The fact is we will never really know for sure what Noah had to to deal with. He was probably scared, confused but wanted to follow what God said. The film shows him as a human being trying to stay devoted to God but not knowing what God is asking of him. In the end, Noah's inner turmoil is resolved and it is shown that God's true plan was never to completely destroy humanity anyways. The film is a narrative of how it MAY have happened, not how it did. It's an interpretation.
this is what I love about you man .... you don't give a shit about critics, you just give a "layman's" view of how good a movie is .... I loved Noah!
I loved this movie. It's possibly the best film I've seen all year. I have to admit, it's not as great as Last Temptation of Christ as far as Bible retelling goes, but this film was definitely... Awesometacular
Actually, the movie is based more on the Kabbalah and Gnostic beliefs, than the Judeo-Christian story. Personally, i didn't care for it because of this.
I liked the movie, but the only thing that kind of put me off (and this is not a criticism to the movie or to Russell Crowe) is that Noah was HUGE. I always pictured him like a scraggly old man with a huge task ahead of him. Russell Crowe was huge, big beard, shaven head. He looked like he could build that ark single handedly and then beat the animals into submission if need be.
Emma Watson
that is all
Academy Award, plz.
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And I think I speak for most of North America when I say -Patiently waiting for your ninja turtles trailer review.
Love your channel, see ya.
Jeremy is 800 subs away from 500,000 subscribers that is crazy, I'm glad to see him moving up, half a million is incredible. When subscribed to him about 20 months about he only had like 150,000 subs. Hope he does a thank you vid and a Q and A.
No disrespect, but they were angels who were turned into stone creatures, not rock transformers.
oooooooh
Tom Konkle The creator told the angels not to interfere with Humanity, but when the angels tried to help the Humans, they were disobeying god, or the creator, and suddenly became stone like figures. Now you know.
How does that make them any less ridiculous? It's a contrivance he created for his writing and movie. The original mention in the texts didn't describe them or go into any detail so the whole thing is what he made up to make his story more interesting to him. And they looked exactly like Transformers.
This movie might actually be good, but I just can't separate it from the fact that there are people out there who think it's a documentary. And a happy story you teach to children. Genocide is not a happy ending. Sorry, can't support that shit in any form.
Well almost all the stories we tell our kids is violent in some form or another.
In Red Riding Hood the wolf eats Granny and Red Riding Hood then a lumberjack cuts open the wolf to save her, the original is even worse, where no one comes to save them and the wolf just eats them both.. the end. In Cinderella her ugly sisters were cutting pieces of their own feet off to try and fit into the slipper. Little Mermaid, where she couldn't speak but she could dance beautifully, though if she did it felt like swords being driven through her feet; only for her love to marry someone else and she ended up committing suicide and her body dissolving into foam.
Our story tales were more cautionary tales for children back in the day.
***** Sure, but we don't teach those stories to kids as if they actually happened. I'm actually surprised they still tell this story often because basically it's saying God is a maniac that murdered the entire planet, including all the animals who had done nothing wrong. It's quite amazing to me that people don't see anything wrong with this.
CampingforCool41 Actually if you pay close enough attention (and read it in Greece, that always helps), you'll notice that "people were evil" wasn't the only reason God did what he did.
After God banished the Angels from Heaven, they began procreating with humans, creating a race called the Nephilim, or Gigantus in the Greek. If they were allowed to "corrupt" all of human kind, then Christ would never be able to come and save humanity, as Christ had to become human. In another sense, you could say the Nephilim were partly spiritual beings in the physical realm, so God could never be completely physical (in the form of Christ), in order to sacrifice himself.
In Genesis, Noah is described as being a good and holy man, perfect in God's eyes, but in Greek, the translation it closer to "unblemished", as in, "without corruption".
Noah was chosen not just because he was a good man, but because he wasn't corrupted by the Nephilim, because he was fully human.
*****
Okay, so even if that is a better interpretation, it still doesn't explain why he had to kill almost all the animals....and was Noah and his family really the only ones without angel blood or nephilim in them? And even if he was, it's nonsense that he has to flood and kill everything in agony rather than just snapping a finger and getting rid of them. I can't quite tell if you actually believe the story, but that interpretation still wouldn't change God's image into something good. It seems to me that God simply enjoys playing Sims with his creation, even though he apparently knows every single outcome.
CampingforCool41 I doubt Noah and his family were the only ones, though only being a few generations from Adam and Eve, there wouldn't have been many other people around. I have a few ideas on how to rationalise God's seemingly rash actions.
It could be possible that God doesn't like using his power to directly influence his creation i.e. snapping his fingers and making it go away. Natural phenomena could be tools of control which he is more comfortable. He could have instantly destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah but instead were destroyed in a "fire from heaven", easily explainable as a meteor shower.
It could also be that God uses these extremes to send a message to the reader "don't do evil or you'll meet justice", this message may not have been felt as strongly if God had just plucked them from the Earth. When God uses a natural disaster it preys upon man's natural fears of drowning, fire etc.
God's "hand's off approach" could explain the existence of evolution through natural selection, as it too is a natural phenomenon and could be a tool used by God to create life.
Noah in my opinion, is the best movie of 2014 so far.
The rock monsters threw me off but otherwise it opened a whole new world to the few general lines in the Bible. Very deep and well done movie.