Noah's Ark: The Story That Disproves the Entire Bible
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- God cannot lie. When his word touches on science and history, it is infallible. These two all or nothing claims are what many Christians (myself included) were raised to believe. Therefore, if after a thorough examination we find just one story to be fallacious, the entire Bible no longer has the right to be referred to as being both inspired and infallible.
In this video I take you through a personal journey of how despite my desperate attempts to vindicate the story as being a factual account in history, I reached the eventual conclusion that it was nothing more than a mythological adaptation.
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Noah was a brave man to sail in a wooden boat with two termites.
😂👌
Two HUNGRY termites!!😉
@@FatalFinality Noah was on the ark 150 days not 40!🙄
Without food, termites last two weeks!
@@FatalFinality Termites need to SWARM to mate - that's 100 -1000+ adult mating playas needed, not just two! As with ALL these make believe ark passengers, TWO OF EACH SPECIES just ain't gonna cut it!
@@FatalFinality REALLY: the more you examine the WW Flood myth the more you realize how IMPOSSIBLE any, ANY of it is!🙄
Your first mistake is depending on Jehovah witnesses for your information.
Your first mistake was allowing yourself to get indoctrinated by a childrens book.
The J word is blasphemy!
@@johnathanwoods1223The watchtower movement is a cult. It doesn’t abide by even the core tenants of Christianity and is unaccepted by Christian denominations. Mormonism is in the same boat.
@@thefinestgent817 ok. Thanks.
@@johnathanwoods1223 They are heretics
As a child I used to make my Sunday School teachers mad when I asked where did the water go after the great flood.
It disappeared little by little trough many days. People are really clueless
@@Bojan12 Yes, but where did it go?
How did a sphere of water larger than the sphere of the Earth 'disappeaed little by little'?
@@IdeasExchange1 It took many days you know and it happened supernaturally probably just like it was caused to flood
@@Bojan12 Oh, of course - silly me. It was just magic. Can't argue with that.
@@IdeasExchange1 Yes Magic is very real that is why there is so much stuff on magic from Books to Movies to Games. We are Magical - Spiritual Beings and many think they are only flesh because they have not yet discovered deepest part of them which is breath of God called spirit that gives life to all of us individually
Noah was able to build an ark but no one else had a boat?
This ark was covered. Also, God o am sure helped
A boat or two maybe but not the size of noahs with that sort of scenario their boats wouldnt survive.
Allegedly the planets topography was different back then and had never rained before. Supposedly it was far more tropical and hydration of plants came up out of the ground. Also their was no rainbow until after the flood and pangea or at least there was less continents then as they form afterwards supposedly.
This is indicated in the bible at least. Is there evidence outside the biblical narrative or is it misinterpreted? Eretz in Hebrew is transliterated to earth in English bibles but often means simply land or ground not necessarily the globe planet.
You would have needed an ark so you had enough food. Think of the animals that became extinct while Noah fed his family.
Actually, they were all mocking Noah. So if they didn't believe him, why would they build such a boat?
That's the last time I publish a novel.
You’ve got some plots holes to plug my guy
When can we expect the Bible 2? I hear you are trying horror instead of historical fiction
@@BrownSugar83788 I might do an "After the End" book next. This time I'm writing it myself, no more ghost writers!
Maybe fire the proof reader because obviously they were tripping on LSD as well.
@@BrownSugar83788 Bible 2? " There are hundreds of versions of the Bible in the English language."
When you realise that this guy was a jehovah witness! Poor guy, I hope he’s doing okay and not a complete outcast from his family
Since this guy is a JW it’s obvious he’s no Christian as they reject the doctrine of the Trinity…the Father,the Son, and the Holy Spirit
Contratrily, the flood proves the bible is true.
@@carlorivera3035 Re-watch the video 10 times.
@@irielion3748 I will try.
@@irielion3748 Did you also watch the man spew a 22-minute litany of his one-sided view over the flood? He's so bitter. Have mercy on him and pray for him.
I made a TikTok almost a year ago talking about the dietary needs for the animals on the ark and the amount of times I was told that the animals were basically put into a stasis and therefore didn’t need to eat was ridiculous
If God wanted these creatures to survive that long he did create them and had that power. "Through God all things are possible." God is life and kept who he wanted alive. 😉
@@nate666 yeah that doesn’t work for me. In accordance that god forgot about Noah and the ark and they had to sail for an extra 130-170 days (depending on the scripture)
@@Knukles_Photographybut you can believe that humans evolved from fish when scientists can't even achieve that in a lab? 😂
@@nate666 first off that’s a huge misrepresentation of what evolution is, and secondly scientists don’t have millions of years. And you do realize we study evolution every single day and the animal we use most to study and watch evolution happen is fruit flies and gnats, because evolution happens over generations not in one or two life times
@@nate666are you sure about that? Have you ever heard about Miller-Urey experiment? The results pretty much show us how life on Earth could have begun from inorganic reagents in the primitive atmosphere. But hey you do you
I've been a skeptic since I was 13; Deuteronomy turned me at that age. Over 20 years later and I've been on a spiritual journey seperate from the Bible or from any contemporary religion in general, more gnosticism than anything. That being said, historically, there are a couple of floods that could have been *the* flood mentioned, though they would have been localized and not worldwide. The off chance does exist that if a more wide spread event happened quickly and receded quickly, it would only show up as a gradual increase in water level over years.. simply as a thinking exercise, think about the end of the Younger Dryas, when JUST such a gradual increase - pretty quick actually - does occur. Then look at the channeled scablands in Washington as well as some of the ripples in the landscape of the Sahara, both are evidence of massive flooding. Long story short, I'm not saying a Biblical flood happened. What I AM saying is that there's plenty evidence of local floods that would have definitely seemed massive to people involved as well as the fact that the story of Noah is repeated in various forms across all cultures and religions.
Again, that's not to say those stories are 100% factual. But you'd be a fool to think there's absolutely nothing to them.
So what can we take from localized flood stories that took place all over the world, on flood plains and near oceans?
What turns me off religion and the bible is how a loving nonjudgmental god can be so evil…
What turns me off religion and the bible is how a loving nonjudgmental god can be so evil…
@@kathynewkirk683you know it’s not evil to wipe out an entire people that’s raping, murdering, sacrificing their babies in fire. You have no conscience
@@ntkmw8058Fair point. Why are floods still happening today that destroy homes and innocent people's lives in different parts of the world. I mean a rainbow is the symbol that God won't flood earth again but why do hailstorms and flash floods happen without warning on weather reports even destroying people's homes and rainbows appearing afterwards. Clearly it has to be God being evil or impulsive
They didn't have children for 400 years because Noah's pull-out game was on point.
Nice one!
Not to mention he knew his wife's moon cycle of fertility
Lmao!!!
Um ive been doing it for 37 yrs lmfao
You forget that in the Bible god will kill you for pulling out but carry on with the joke :p
A fat lion walks of the arc, saying “the cruise sucked but I loved the buffet”.
*ark
Walks "off" the ark...
Must've eaten both unicorns
@@israelthacker8568 Know your facts: five eaten, not two. (Seven of each species were taken on board, two jumped into the water to save themselves and evolved into the present day narwhals. )
Narwhals are another instance of scientic evidence to prove to non-believers the existence of Noah's flood.
(Mr. Ken Ham, should this come to your notice please note that as long as you also have Mr Israel Thacker's consent, you are free to use our hypotheses in your Noah"s Ark Exhibition regarding the extinction of unicorns and the appearance of narwhals. Further scientific tidbits you might find useful: Scientist have discovered that whales are closely related to hippos and, well, to put it simply so that it's easy to understand, that it happened that some hippos walked into the sea and evolved into whales. And hippo means horse, and unicorns being horse's with a horn... one thing leads to another... all very scientific.
And Ken, if you do use this stuff in your exhibition, just give my name a mention, ok?
🤣
Please mention the books you have shown in this video, thanks.
The epic of Gilgamesh has very similar stories as the Bible
I wonder how Noah convinced termites, beavers, bark beetles, carpenter ants, porcupine, horntails and weevils not to eat the wooden ship when many of them are literally dependent on wood as a food source to live. 😂😂
What was Noah thinking when he saved cockroaches.
He like the feeling he got when he put them down he's pant's.
Where did he keep the crab louse?
What are the animals he killed off with that sacrifice at the end
@Aron Chacon The point is that the story is absurd. It should not be taken to be literally true. Perhaps it sermed okay to pre-iron age cultures. But today we know enough to dimiss it as myth. It is just sad that some people are so brain washed as to take it seriously.
@@marcstuart5832 He's right, if you look closely on the picture in the background of the video, cant see any insects or seagulls. Lions are looking very smug.
plus Noah must have stopped off at Australia first and said " alright all weird/freaky and poisonous things get off here , " , lol :)
LOL....
More like space for a couple million years
kasabot rako nimo kaya na nimo
Australia was the last stop.
@@oopsisolditagain4191 billion's of yrs ago
I used to be a christian but after watching this, I'm still a christian!
which proves?!!!!
@@victorpulis5113 - which proves that he didn't listen to a word that was said.
@@pinky9440 did you even bother to check christian sources or are you just using atheist arrogance
@@MinstrelEmpire I was a Christian for 40 years. It was once I started REALLY reading the bible, actually thinking for myself, that I realised it is all fantasy.
@@pinky9440 a typical example of religious brainwashing.
How could you be sure that the flood during Atrahasis time (Epic of Gilgamesh) is the same flood in Noah’s time or those other floods you mention?
Logically they are the same and not the same at once because every statement of a non-entity has by defintion the value "true".
Same stories handed down from religion to religion just retold in other forms.
1:21 About that talking donkey: You know what's the most incredible aspect of that story for me? It's not the fact that the donkey talked. It's the fact that its rider shows no shock that his donkey is talking but just nonchalantly talks back to it as if talking donkeys are a normal everyday occurrence. The same goes for the talking serpent narrative in Genesis.
Right. The owner of the donkey seen nothing strange about a talking donkey. Adam and Eve seen nothing strange about a talking snake. I wonder if any of these animals had an English accent? That would be a hoot!
Watch some inspiringphilosophy videos on genesis. You may get a better understanding of this "serpent" etc
@@stylicho Those videos are lies!! Prove a snake can talk!!
Prove that there is something that God cannot do.
@@jesusislord1067 You have to prove that the all powerful sky daddy exists!!
Wait, the idea that they didn't have a child for 480 years is the issue for you? Not the idea that they were, you know, 500 years old...
It's easier to believe in magic than it is to believe a guy didn't want to have sex for 480 years.
Maybe low sperm count? Just sayin' 🤷♀️
@@MyHealingShelf Oh my.
Frankly, I'm surprised you're surprised by the power of indoctrination. No, my indoctrination was not nearly as strong as what the TTH's has been, btw.
@@ronrobert6379Blah.
Your clear-headed, drama-free, and well-presented arguments have won a new subscriber!
Be happy, If I dare subscribe him, I'm in a grave danger 😢
Dude literally has no idea what he's talking about. He had to go to the JW's for "evidence" because they're one of the very few "Christians" that believe the story to be literal fact. While the vast majority of Christians don't consider JW's to be Christian and also understand the story of Noah to be an allegory.
Here's a thought! Did anyone ever stop to think maybe GOD came from a big bang, and then created us!
Someone always ask where did all the water go after the flood, what about the question where it came from, my answer is it's GOD in both accounts. Science will never explain GOD's existence.
Hello? Hello? Is TH-cam going to allow this comment or just delete it like all the rest?
My mother was very religious. She used to read revelations to me as a bed time story. I lived a terrified childhood. Anyways, she told me that the people back then had a very blind perspective of the world because they didn't have science, telescopes, spaceships, etc. Their idea of the whole world was probably rather small. She said the whole world probably did not flood, but just a whole region that their small minds perceived as the whole world. The flood extended as far as the people knew to be their entire world. So supposedly Noah just rounded up the animals of the local area and some still were probably missed but existed elsewhere....which is more believable. She described how inaccurate most stories are from back then because of the small mindedness and lack of knowledge the people suffered from. She said you'd have to read between the lines with the Bible because the authors were ignorant.
My poor sweet mother was a strange religious fanatic. She said southern baptists were pagans. Actually everyone but her was a pagan, a witch, or satanic. She had a much more cosmic view of God. That always stuck with me. Changed a bit when cancer got her though.
God answered her prayers many times. I read a prayer of hers that was written before I was born. She asked for a perfect description of me when she wanted a child. Well, she got me. But when the cancer got her, she begged for God to heal her. I read the prayers and they were so sad. All of her talk of reading between the lines didn't change the fact that she brought up God's healing power stories in her prayers. My mother once told me that I would go to hell for listening to the backstreet boys. She was devout and God didn't spare her suffering. Preachers told me that she was just so devout that God wanted her to come home.
Prophet Noah's Message
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Your mother was a fool. My mother was the exact same way. So I know your pain and I’m sorry you had to go through that.
Amanda M
nice post, now everyone can disrespect the mother that loved you. Aren't you glad she got you off the Backstreet Boys? Everyone dies, so if she prayed to be healed and the prayer was not answered doesn't discount GOD. His will be done.
@@mavrathmasterofsecrets8712 What demon crawled up your ass? You think you can judge her mother off one short post.
@@rickhuntling7338 Did you read the rest of it though? I grew up terrified of the apocalypse & hell. That's no way to raise a child. I love my mother, despite her fanaticism. But she was a fanatic, and in the end it don't save her. All her actions did was push me away from religion. Now I have a cynical view on life & have no faith in established religion. I follow my own beliefs.
I grew up bouncing from religion to religion, denomination to denomination. No church or religion was ever devout enough for my mother. Did you see the part about how every church was into paganism or witchcraft in her eyes? I grew up having to allow old men to wash my feet. Looking back on that with my adult knowledge, a man with a foot fetish very well could have been getting off on that. Once we had to handle snakes, and I was terrified. Luckily God saw me as a true believer and chose to not let the snake bite me. I never got a Halloween as a child, now I go all out for it. Christmas was also not allowed, neither was Easter.
Religion was so drilled into my head that I was a fool. I survived a school shooting, but only because a wise teacher threw me into a classroom. The religion drilled into my head made me think that I could talk to the shooter about the love of the lord & pray with him. I was on my way to do just that when I was saved.
See, I don't mind people being into religion. Whatever brings comfort, ya know? But not to the point where it makes children into fools. It took many years to fix the damage that had been done.
Also, you gotta ask yourself, how is it that other civilisations, like the Egyptians for example, or the Chinese who, btw, had some of the best record keeping known to humankind, didn't notice that they were drowning while still recording the things going on around them especially during a so-called global flood, you'd have thought at least one of them would have noticed something was a bit off 🤭
Now that's a good question
The Chinese character for the word "large vessel" contains the NUMBER 8 , the character for the word "mouth" and "vessel" , the idea was and still is in Mandarin Chinese that curiously as you mention and which is true , is one of the oldest recorded languages , how is it , this word for large vessel even is associated with 8 mouths in a vessel??
Hmmmmmm
@@adrianojames5828 How does that explain how the Egyptians (and possibly the Chinese, and others) survived the flood?
China's Great Flood? Search "Yu China's Great Flood". Scientists claiming there was a global catastrophe during the young dryas era about 12000 years ago. Keep searching, this video doesn't prove anything lmao. He will be kneeling before Christ like all of us
@@xBurzurkurx 12000 years ago would not fit the biblical time line. In addition, it wasn't a global flood. In addition, that "flood" didn't cover the tallest mountains on earth. In addition, that flood did not kill all life on land (except for some in a giant ark, built by a 500+ year old man)
Hi, After reading all of the comments posted below and after having started to read the Bible myself, I have been drawn to a conclusion I must just accept the Bible stories as they are written in the Bible. I tried and failed to logically explain the stories and formed the opinion that I cannot prove or logically explain most of the Bible and decided to stop trying.
Religion means different things to many different people and that is ok. For me, I need to believe in my mind that there is a God responsible for all that exists. I cannot explain many things in the world, I just accept certain things as they are. It is not necessary for me to be able to explain everything, somethings will continue to always be a mystery.
Faith is one of those things, but one thing is for certain we all will die at some point in time and I would rather wrap my mind around an unexplainable Bible than to try and wrap my mind around nothing at all.
Thanks for posting this video.
John in Ohio
You don't have to wrap your mind around the bible, read some science books it's better. Also if you cannot get out of religion don't indoctrinate your children. Since they force it on people and children generation to generation, now my gf also say the same thing. "Faith in God is a must" she said. I'm grow up in Asia for 15 years and my hometown don't know Jesus Christ at all, we are all Buddhist, most of us are atheist Buddhist, some are theist Buddhist, no one say anything about Jesus we still live well and happy. We has myth about the global floods, too (probably local big floods since many asia countries next to the sea). There are 4 Dragons raise up and fight against the God clan create a first global flood. A Demon general is super strong and capture all 4 Dragons and used it as a condition to ask marry the princess of the God clan. The Jade emperor at first agree, thinking Demon general can't capture all 4 Dragons, but then he actually got all 4, and the Jade emperor change his mind, since that's endanger the God Clan. The Demon general at first want to marry princess of God Clan for power and overthrow the God clan, but then later see and fall in love with the princess for real. So in the end, God clan and Demon Clan fight huge battles with the 4 dragons mess up the whole world, make another global flood. So 2 huge global floods. I told my gf this and she said your story is bullshit, my story of Noah is the real one, only things in the bible are the truth, everything else is bullshit....Don't indoctrinate children and force them to believe....
Go travel and listen to people, see a bigger world, may be you will see and hear better old tale stories.
Catholics read scripture differently. What the author intends to assert is not always what we read. We believe in inerrancy, but not in literalism. In other words, the original texts are inerrant, and translations participate in that inerrancy, but it is possible that we do not know what we are reading or how to read it. St. Augustine says, "If in these books I meet with anything which seems contrary to truth, I will have no doubt that it is only the manuscript which is faulty, or the translator who has not hit the sense, or my own failure to understand" (Letter 82).
Please and I mean please undertake thorough research and study on the history of the compilation composition and invention of the Bible
@@CheckerouteWhat point would you like to make?
Moral of the story: Don't point out problems with Bible stories if you want your turtle to live.
He sinned, but since he was a very good boy until then, god killed his turtle in his place as a warning. 😁
Wow god sure seems nice. You don't believe him you lose the things you love. God sounds like a jerk. Good luck getting me to believe your trash religion through fear and threats. God is litterally a dictator because similarly to a dictator he rules through fear...
@@codyd8291it was a joke most likely
@@codyd8291 Even the sinful human being put death as a punishment for the wrongful things people do in their constitution every action has its consequence don think for a second otherwise... God did as a rightful Judge what the people at that time deserve.... There are a million reasons not to believe in one thing but only one to believe in it thats why it is called Faith not Fact
@@codyd8291 YOU do not have to believe in God in Heaven, for it to be True.
The attack on Christianity and Christians, was told by Jesus the Christ.
Your attacks are not new.
However, according to the Law of the Land, you do not have the right to speak against my religious beliefs. That is a Hate Crime.
Regardless, you will ultimately answer to God in Heaven. Your belief or non-belief, is irrelevant.
In whom the god of this world (satan) hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2 Corinthians 4:4
Tbh, I didn't know there was a whole former Jehovah's Witness community on TH-cam and I appreciate everyone making videos about these things. Helps to know I'm not alone.
Look up Telltale Atheist, he’s ex jw
@@KlaxontheImpailr haha you beat me to it. I was just coming to say that!
@@KlaxontheImpailr YES!! He's brilliant and doing some amazing work helping others disfellowshipped and disproving the concepts like that by using the bible to prove them wrong through their own word. It's EYE-OPENING!!xx
Taiyougetsu, not so long ago, a vlogger started something like this one and he is now collecting thites.
What a profiitable business.
Look up KimMikey and Lloyd evans.
I once asked a group of atheists at an atheist booth in San Diego, "If you could be convinced there were a God in which you were accountable, would you worship and serve Him?" Unanimous answer, "Absolutely not. Not the God of the Bible!" It really isn't an evidence issue it's a heart issue. Jeremiah 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked."
Let's be real there are points in the Bible whereby God was extremely impulsive and lowkey immoral in the Bible. I can understand there viewpoint. I think God has a duality about him where he is good and evil.
@@KevindusT360 *"there are points in the Bible whereby God was extremely impulsive and lowkey immoral in the Bible."*
Really? Provide one example of God being "extremely impulsive and lowkey immoral in the Bible".
I'll just bet my bottom dollar that you can NOT!
Many atheists "say" such things about the bible, but very few of them have ever actually 'read' the bible in the first place!
Jeremiah 17:9 "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked."
@@jimhappnin1425how is a flood that kills everything not immoral, or a plague that kills millions. Or the fact that the Bible didn’t condemn slavery and kinda supported it. Making people burn for eternity for being gay
@@potatoanus7206 *"how is a flood that kills everything not immoral, or a plague that kills millions."*
ANSWER: Because it is the result of 'sin'!
First of all... the world was flooded because the 'entire' world was 'wicked'!
Secondly... ALL life on earth is freely given to us by God.
THEREFORE: God has freely given... and God has every right to take back that which belongs to Himself.
*"Or the fact that the Bible didn’t condemn slavery and kinda supported it."*
ANSWER: God gave man freewill. Since "man" has decided to have slaves, and God will never interfere with the 'freewill' that God has 'freely' given us... God simply gave man the rules to govern their slavery.
*"Making people burn for eternity for being gay"*
People do NOT go to hell for being 'gay'. They go to hell because of their 'unrepentant' SIN!!
Gay sex is punishable by eternal damnation the very same way that heterosexual sex is punishable by eternal damnation!
The very same way that murder, lying, robbery is punishable by eternal damnation!
Jesus the Messiah willingly sacrificed His 'sinless' life for the soul purpose of paying the price for our sins!
But anyone who does NOT 'want' what Jesus the Messiah is offering us... will NOT 'receive' it!
God will NOT "force" His salvation upon someone who does NOT 'want' it!
We are all 'entitled' to pay the price for our own sins. But we all know that the wages of sin... is 'death'!
So 'reject' Jesus the Messiah if you so choose. But doing so will lead you directly into 'eternal' hell.
No one will ever be "sent" to hell.
People freely 'choose' to go to hell because they refuse to repent of their sin.
People go to hell because they are 100% 'ignorant' of what the bible actually says!
And right now... YOU are one of those people.
SUGGESTION: Read the bible for yourself before it's too late!
@@jimhappnin1425Knock knock. "Who's there?". Jesus Christ, I'm come here to save you. "Save me from what?". From whatever I'm gonna to do with you if you don't let me in.
Science tries to find evidence that doesn't support hypothesis, meanwhile religions look for evidence that supports their fables despite that evidence sometimes being found to not be a viable reason
A moment of silence for the turtle...
F
:(
And all animals that live in water! How did they survive in the 'ark'?
@@drziggyabdelmalak1439. They 🏊swam in the flood waters💦 🌊 😂🐬🐟🐠🦂🦞🐡, they didn't need the Ark 😎 Gotcha!
@@gargould7186 XD freshwater and saltwater doesn't matter waters water right xD
As an entomologist, the insect species number alone convinces me there is no way Noah could have collected all of them, even over the hundreds of years he lived. Also all of the species that no one has ever discovered
You scary lol.
Then we can take into account that there's zero evidence of anyone ever actually living that long. Tada!
@cliff Nowhere in the Bible does it say Noah did not collect insects, but that doesn't matter bc it's a made up story anyway.
Understand the common bible, was an infomercial for legalised murder and meat eating. For Rome had a huge economy for meat eating and killing of animals. The common bible that is so easily found in many different versions increasingly throughout the generations, was wholly amalgamated by Rome, by Constantine and his self elected council of Nicaea, who also changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. They stole from Authentic Hebrew sources, then referenced Gospel of the Nazarenes, which Yeshua whom they gave the name Jesus, had His happenings and sayings secretly recorded by His brother James the Just and mother Mary, amalgamated by John in prison. Made the New Testament, and burnt every copy available and killed many then, with one secret copy hidden in Tibet that was rediscovered in 1870’s by Friar Placidus, who translated it on his way back from Aramaic to Latin.
Yeshua fed melons for example and bread in that Gospel to the thousand and cured their fever. Not fish. He stopped Judah from killing a lamb at the Last Supper, for He was the sacrificial lamb, for Moses in his error and rage allowed some of the Israelites to eat meat, that carried on for a few generations.
So Yeshua was trying to bring about Isaiah 11: 6-9. Read that, and you will start to understand the common book, was an infomercial for legalised murder and meat eating. For Rome had a huge economy for meat eating and killing of animals. But in the beginning it was not so. The book, if you like to understand, had areas where it was allowed to be modified, For eg: When satan was allowed to negotiate Job's sufferings, so in some areas he wasn't able to influence the book makers at 325AD, because Heaven didn’t allow it. Like the saying goes, not one hair will drop from your head, if it wasn't allowed. So some books in the bible, was not allowed to be corrupted coming from Heaven, and so on earth it wasn't allowed. Another example, read Matt 5: 17 -20, then read Romans 10:4. Complete contradiction to one another's message. Paul is a fake apostle, the ultimate weapon of Rome against believers at the time.
Evidence the New Testament is fictatious: “And in every case they discuss the bread but they don’t mention anything about fish. So I think that fish is a later addition. In fact, if you even look at the New Testament, it says, at another point, when Jesus is talking about the feeding of the five thousand, he says, ‘Don’t you remember when I fed the multitudes and all the bread that we took up?’ And he doesn’t mention the fish.
The horse leg is also revealed (Horse leg is a saying to say a horse is pretending to be a human, but is exposed) in every version of the bible today:
Matthew 16:9 New International Version Yeshua said: 9 Do you still not understand? Don’t you remember the five loaves for the five thousand, and how many basketfuls you gathered? Where the fish at?
Mark 8:16-21 New International Version 16 They discussed this with one another and said, “It is because we have no bread.”
17 Aware of their discussion, Jesus asked them: “Why are you talking about having no bread? Do you still not see or understand? Are your hearts hardened?
18 Do you have eyes but fail to see, and ears but fail to hear? And don’t you remember?
19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up?” “Twelve,” they replied.
20 “And when I broke the seven loaves for the four thousand, how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up?” They answered, “Seven.”
21 He said to them, “Do you still not understand?” Where is the mention of fish He supposedly broken up too. In the original Gospel where the New Testament is referenced from, Gospel of the Nazarenes, it was bread and melons, and fruits. They removed that in the first versions of the Bybaal, sorry, bible.
Talking snake Talking donkey & Also UNICORNS! These 3 reasons are why I now know the Bible is a FAIRYTALE💯💯💯
Raining enough in 40 days to raise the oceans to the highest mountain would be 750 feet of rain a day
Yet Creationists claim the fossil record was created by the flood, and they also point out that fragile features - like the delicate wings of wasps - were perfectly preserved. So catastrophic rain fall, but delicate.
Majority of the water actually came from under the earth itself so…
@@SFlare For the biblical flood, water didn't actually come from anywhere, because it's a made up story.
I nearly spit out my drink while laughing when I was listening to Aron Ra explain that Noah's Ark only had one window and the 8 people would have died immediately from the methane gas of the animals farting and pooping!
@SAUL deGAUL Are you serious?!?Have you ever been in a bathroom where somebody had just pooped and it still smelled after they flushed the toilet? Now imagine being in a boat supposedly for a year with no indoor toilet and all those animals farting and pooping!!! Sounds like hell to me! God must have been really punishing Noah before he died of the methane gas!!!
@@elainejohnson6955 I think Saul is serious, and correct. Even discounting divine intervention, it is a simple matter to sufficiently ventilate a vessel either from methane or in our modern vessels, fuel aromatics.
@@overallgreatidea6433 So your explanation is simply "god did it" and made the ark similar to modern vessels.
@@davidn.211 No, re-read and think critically and if you feel inclined to respond, resist the temptation of demagoguery. Ancients certainly understood the need for air, I would think; but if a miracle even that is off the table, obviously.
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If everybody died in the flood then only noah and his family could tell the pass the story, and no one else around the world
worms wouldn’t exist if there was global flood either, theyd drown
Noah's sons brought their wives
So they had to share their wifes to repopulate the Earth. Think about it
@@tone569 what oh so now wife sharing is a no no in Noah's time.
@@tone569 why would they need to share their wives?
Man the bible authors are the most brilliant trolls to ever have lived
Yes, the story about boats and animal husbandry written by people with no idea of either. And you didn’t even mention Gilgamesh (unless I missed it?) which was essentially the first point at which the blocks started to be taken away.
You can’t blame them. It is fear. I see it in my moms eyes whenever something about the organization and the Bible comes up and you see the effort she’s putting in to not give thoughts to what she’s seeing. She wants to go to paradise.
Of course, I think it’s fear that we don’t want darkness after we die. You can’t blame humans for wanting something better and eternal joy with others. I think many people who believe want and try to have hope that they can see there families. Sometimes when I’m asked why I even bother trying to believe is because I want it to be true, wanting a peace and to see my parents again, it’s a hope. It only becomes an issue when we start becoming hypocritical and not projecting good thoughts onto other people and we start becoming rude people and not listening to other people and hearing their reasons as well.
@@sambun6394 Well said.
@@sambun6394 Hi Sadie. Is there no afterlife or will people be held into account for how they live their lives?
For example, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris walked onto the their high school campus, executed their classmates pointblank, then took their own lives. They hated life and hated peope. I ask you, as an atheist, why should they have not committed such a crime? The functional word is 'should.' There are no 'shoulds' in atheism! Yet, do not be deceived. There is good and evil, there is a day of reckoning, and no one gets away with any evil act.
If you were to stand before God today, how do you think you would do? Have you lied? Stolen? Been disrespectful to God? If so, you would be judged as a lying thief and a blasphemer. You would not be fit for a place with perfect justice, but would wind up howling with the dogs outside the gate.
The fools says in their heart, 'There is no God.' There is no fear of God in their eyes. They are fools. They teach the world that there is no right or wrong. Can't get any dumber than that! I hope and pray that you will not go into eternity as a fool. Instead, the cross of Christ is the payment for your wrongs. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh i think you need to read Sadie's comment again, she's not arguing against believing lol
@Skydaddy Myth-Busters supernatural by definition means untestable, unrepeatable, unnatural lol
How could anyone not believe in talking donkeys? Haven't they seen Shrek?
you have to have an encounter with God, before you will accept it. if you have not had that you will think it is absurd
@@icedragon1000 VERY TRUE.
Have you not heard the President lately???
@@tonysam2093 Trump? Yeah, you're right! I loved seeing him speak at a Baptist church just recently. If that's not a perfect example of what's wrong with religion, nothing is. There's no one more condescending to people of faith than Donald Trump! What a freaking joke. If there IS a hell, it's lined with Trump Towers. These 'religious' idiots bow down to a man who hates immigrants so much he demonized and tortured them. Lovely. Praise Jesus!
@@michael320 WOW. what about the Obama caged illegals???
The story of "Shiva brought his son back to life" (time stamp 2:00 or so) is not from the "Vedas". The "Vedas" are not the equivalent of the Bible or the Quran. Hinduism is not a religion in the sense that Abrahamic faiths are. People loosely use the terms "god" and "religion" to refer the "gods" of the Dharmic faiths (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism) but that is not correct. This distinction is worth keeping in mind.
“Noah almost used the force on his sperm…”
Hahahahahahahahahaha!!
That’s funniest thing I heard so far this year!!
Cheers Brother and continue to think rationally!
Nah, his wonder worm simply chose the wrong burrow.
I was brought up a JW. I left at about the age of 15 because it already sounded too unbelievable. I stopped believing entirely around the age of 30 when pc's became accessible and I was able to research it. I came to realize why college was frowned on by the JW's. My family are still all in and won't listen to reason. They pick and choose what science they believe in to suit their narrative!
Understand the common bible, was an infomercial for legalised murder and meat eating. For Rome had a huge economy for meat eating and killing of animals. The common bible that is so easily found in many different versions increasingly throughout the generations, was wholly amalgamated by Rome, by Constantine and his self elected council of Nicaea, who also changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. They stole from Authentic Hebrew sources, then referenced Gospel of the Nazarenes, which Yeshua whom they gave the name Jesus, had His happenings and sayings secretly recorded by His brother James the Just and mother Mary, amalgamated by John in prison. Made the New Testament, and burnt every copy available and killed many then, with one secret copy hidden in Tibet that was rediscovered in 1870’s by Friar Placidus, who translated it on his way back from Aramaic to Latin.
Yeshua fed melons for example and bread in that Gospel to the thousand and cured their fever. Not fish. He stopped Judah from killing a lamb at the Last Supper, for He was the sacrificial lamb, for Moses in his error and rage allowed some of the Israelites to eat meat, that carried on for a few generations.
So Yeshua was trying to bring about Isaiah 11: 6-9. Read that, and you will start to understand the common book, was an infomercial for legalised murder and meat eating. For Rome had a huge economy for meat eating and killing of animals. But in the beginning it was not so. The book, if you like to understand, had areas where it was allowed to be modified, For eg: When satan was allowed to negotiate Job's sufferings, so in some areas he wasn't able to influence the book makers at 325AD, because Heaven didn’t allow it. Like the saying goes, not one hair will drop from your head, if it wasn't allowed. So some books in the bible, was not allowed to be corrupted coming from Heaven, and so on earth it wasn't allowed. Another example, read Matt 5: 17 -20, then read Romans 10:4. Complete contradiction to one another's message. Paul is a fake apostle, the ultimate weapon of Rome against believers at the time.
Evidence the New Testament is fictatious: “And in every case they discuss the bread but they don’t mention anything about fish. So I think that fish is a later addition. In fact, if you even look at the New Testament, it says, at another point, when Jesus is talking about the feeding of the five thousand, he says, ‘Don’t you remember when I fed the multitudes and all the bread that we took up?’ And he doesn’t mention the fish.
The horse leg is also revealed (Horse leg is a saying to say a horse is pretending to be a human, but is exposed) in every version of the bible today:
Matthew 16:9 New International Version Yeshua said: 9 Do you still not understand? Don’t you remember the five loaves for the five thousand, and how many basketfuls you gathered? Where the fish at?
Mark 8:16-21 New International Version 16 They discussed this with one another and said, “It is because we have no bread.”
17 Aware of their discussion, Jesus asked them: “Why are you talking about having no bread? Do you still not see or understand? Are your hearts hardened?
18 Do you have eyes but fail to see, and ears but fail to hear? And don’t you remember?
19 When I broke the five loaves for the five thousand, how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up?” “Twelve,” they replied.
20 “And when I broke the seven loaves for the four thousand, how many basketfuls of pieces did you pick up?” They answered, “Seven.”
21 He said to them, “Do you still not understand?” Where is the mention of fish He supposedly broken up too. In the original Gospel where the New Testament is referenced from, Gospel of the Nazarenes, it was bread and melons, and fruits. They removed that in the first versions of the Bybaal, sorry, bible.
It's funny seeing you losers bash the bible as if you go with science when you can't even make it past the first verse with God creating.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God.
So if you want to pretend to be smart, please give me the laugh by giving your science how creation really happened by natural means. Also, throw in how we got the laws of nature, naturally.
OMG! The story of my life growing up as a JW. All of the unbelievable parts of these biblical stories are explained away by God is all powerful and he can make even the impossible possible. When your born and raised in this religion that explanation works just fine until puberty. That's when all hell breaks loose, the scary part is the psychological pressures and changes you undergo can be very dangerous to mental development and your life in general. I considered suicide as a teen when my life long JW friends stopped associating with me. I became the bad guy when I grew my hair, went to my Prom and got a girlfriend. The religion is so restrictive it feels like everything is a sin including suicide so that wasn't an option. and yes college was frowned upon but we were told for a totally different reason. We were told the bad association with worldly people in college would ruin our useful habits. As an adult, debating with family and friends who are still believers I realize its about keeping you away from higher education. instead relying on a group at the top of the organization called "society" to tell you what to think. The internet has changed things though, having so much education at your finger tips its harder convince people to believe nonsense. I agree with you they pick and choose what science to believe. Over all they are good people. In many ways I think I learned to be a kind person and a good public speaker. But the detachment from reality and fact is astounding when your on the outside looking in and looking back at my mental infancy.
@@picpeige02 " I agree with you they pick and choose what science to believe."
I'm not for JW or much any other religion but I will follow the evidence.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God.
Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
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“ How Mr and Mrs Turtle made it off the of the ark alive? Only god knows.” It’s sounds like a joke but as an ex JW this is exactly what they say 🤣🤣🤣
JWs, perhaps. The rest of us? No.
@@mensetens6391 ofc lol I’m just saying how anything they cant answer they just say leave it to god.
Masonic religion the JW's .Not of the Creator Yahuah ,amein.
The longest chapter of my book '"Divine Projection: How and Why Humans Created God"' is about the Great Flood and Noah's Ark. There are so many ways to refute the story, I could not include them all.
How would you debunk the apologetic that it was only a local flood simply called the "whole earth" and so thr ark only needed to fit the animals in the region that Noah thought was all of the kinds in his limited understanding of how big the earth is using 4000 BC maps?
@@timrose4310 This version is refuted by the story as it appears in Genesis. For example it is said "the end of all mortals has come" and "I am going to destroy them with the earth" This would not be said for a local flood.
@jgestiot One apologetic suggests humans are only descendants of Adam and thus other hominids were merely animals and thus all humans (those who count as "mortals") were in the regional area of the flood and the rest were hominids later killed off by humans. (This is also consistent with Cain's fear of others in Gen 4:14). What other refutations of a regional flood is there?
@@timrose4310 Science has fairly well demonstrated that humans do not descend from two people. This completely undermines religions such as Christianity and Islam, which rely on the Adam and Eve story.
@@jgestiot Perhaps the "all mortals" is just as hyperbolic as "the whole earth" and such terms are merely reflecting "all" life as far as Noah was aware of using 4000 BC maps as I said before. If we grant that "all" is actually "all in the region", then is there an argument against a regional flood? I'm thinking maybe the ark was still not big enough or still too many animals or maybe there's some other problems entirely...
Trama effects many in different ways....but growing up in a cult like JW and finding the real truth WOW!!..... been there done that it's all fables & stories. like all religions when you start thinking logically and scientifically eyes and mine become open.
One second you're listening to rovi covers of old songs, the other you're watching religious videos
Are you spying on me? :D
FUN FACT:
Humans are the only creature that can both
• create fiction, and
• understand fiction.
I could understand it in modern days but, these accounts are several thousands years old, in a period when an extremely low percentage of the population was able to read, even less had the ability to write. Whenever you don't like what you are writing, all you need is tap backspace on your keyboard. Back then, the process was costly, both financially and in term of time. Training people needs time and effort. I think they had better things to do.
It seems like the only stories they have left us were fairytales. Is it so? Or maybe thse were accounts of extreme importance that they needed to pass on to the posterity, in order to not forget? I wouldn't label these accounts as fiction. I better say we didn't fully understand the complexity of the whole background they were living.
Peace.
@@TheGianluman So the talking donkey is not fiction? So the talking flame in a bush is not fiction? So the man made from dirt, and the woman made from one of his ribs, who were fooled by a talking snake, into eating cursed fruit, from a magical tree, is not fiction?
Can you give us your definition of fiction?
@@TonyTigerTonyTiger Thanks for answering.
You should wonder if what you read in your translated bible is what the original authors have wrote in the origins.
I am sure theology had too much chances to fiddle with the original accounts, and western translators did a poor work.
Concerning Balaam and the talking donkey.
I don't think the original accounts were speaking about a talking donkey.
According to ancients opinion about Balaam, he was considered as a non-Israelite soothsayer. According to modern textual criticism, about 90% of biblical scholars who support the "Documentary Hypothesis" (DH, google it), this portion of the tale is different from the Yahwist version of the story. In their opinion, the Yahwists deliberately assume that the donkey actually spoke, and that the whole episode was designed to mock Balaam. Evidently the Yahwists did not like the non-Jewish prophets (Balaam wasn't an Israelite), and their text is much harsher regarding Balaam than the Elohists' text.
The paragraphs immediately preceding and following this episode seem to have an elohist matrix.
This is the opinion of modern scholarship.
@@TonyTigerTonyTiger The other thing you mentioned are perfectly explainable in another framework featuring a higher technology. We were taught to think biblic character was a God. Not everyone is of the same opinion. I take into accout the possibility that the Elohim mentioned in the bible were individuals featuring a higher knowledge and technology. Afterall hundreds of cultures all around the world spoke about the Sky People...
In this framework everything has its logical and philological explaination: the Burning Bush, the Adam-Aphar, or the making of man with the tselem (image) of elohim, or the fabrication of the female using the tsela (sure it was a rib?) of the adam, the female actually had a relation with the nachash (sure it was a serpent?), and sure it was a fruit? or about the kavod of Yahweh (glory of the Lord) and the Ruach of Elohim (spirit of God) and many other things.
And I still think they had no time nor value to spend in writing fairytales, especially in a historical period where only 1% of population was able write or read.
Not sure you're interested tho.
The Bible would be the first book I'd burn in Texas. What a fictional story. Do Christians believe in Thor, Zues, or Santa? Of course not, they're made up. Evolution.
Love listening to you it's refreshing to hear somebody speaking from a reality perspective. Oil and water do not mix the same as critical thinking and jehovah's witnesses do not mix. I have to believe that a majority of witnesses have serious doubts about their faith and with information, so freely available, their numbers will continue to dwindle.
The Jehovah's witnesses are just another cult that deviates from the bible. The King James bible is the one!! You just might want to read it before it's too late!!
Congratulations on breaking free from the prison other people built in your head. I know first hand it's not easy or comfortable but it's worth it. I've been out of the church for over 30 years and I'm actually glad I went through it. I know why I believe the things I believe and I no longer hold a single belief that came from someone else.. Im confident in my opinions but always reserve the right to change my mind. Keep fighting the good fight man.
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”
― Carl Sagan
And it's embarrassing to admit you've been taken. It is amazing how people will hold on to the b.s. that was stuffed into their heads when they were kids rather than admit being wrong. It does not hurt to face facts - it is quite liberating, isn't it?
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Yes it is embarrassing, when you finally realize that you have been looking through everything with the one eye of Western philosophy disregarding your closed eye to Eastern philosophy, and then limiting that vision to the world by beginning with the Greeks.
It is embarrassing when you discover that your viewpoint is not even considered a view point!
@@geekmeee Woo, woo! Do tell, when Santa Claus breaks wind, does tit smell of gingerbread or peppermint?
@@DCronk-qc6sn
Your embarrassment is showing...
Can you say? Look over here!
Yep, kinda reminds me of how people listen to the "so-called science when it comes to getting an experimental toxic jab."
I’m surprised anyone put this much thought and energy into disproving a myth.
Faith is belief without evidence. No amount of evidence will change anyone’s faith.
That is insanity. Believing in something that has no proof either way is maybe okay. Believing in something when all evidence tells you it is impossible and the more evidence you find, the more impossible. That is insanity.
Believe what you may (wink) but the large number of ex-believers that have lost their faith in the face of facts disproves your hypothesis.
Marc , it’s because they rather believe evolution by faith than believe that we have a savior. Satan has been busy. These people want to use their amazing knowledge. Everyone will bow down to our lord and savior Jesus. There is nothing anyone can do about that.
Thats not the definition of faith. Thats the modern redefinition. The bible defined its own at the time.
“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” Hebrews 11:1
Yeah, I do demonology research and I find intresting things so many people overlook in the bible. This is one of them. The verse seems to imply the cooperation between unseen and seen intelegence that developes hope. What this looks like? I don’t freaking know.
@@thetruthshouldbeclear8602 Satan is the answer this fucked up species needs.
The fact that you came for Jehovah's Witnesses says everything
thepolyglotdude1530, How is that different from any other religion?
@@mikeekim242 it's different because if you leave the cult even your family will forget about you
@@thepolyglotdude1530 I'm sure every Christian faith has seen this happen. All religions are cults.
Jehovah's witnesses are merely the weirdest of the weird outer limits of Christian sects. I don't even consider Jehovah's Witnesses in my rejection of Deistic worship. You're all welcome to indulge your, to my mind, infantile fantasies as much as you like, just don't come anywhere near me.
@@mikeekim242they use a false translation of the bible (NWT) which is what he is using in the video.
I just got an ad for an audio Bible before your video 😂😂😂
You just might want to check it out! Before it's too late!! Or not. It's your choice.
@@jimhappnin1425I’ll chose otherwise, I don’t much like propaganda. I don’t see any atheist advertisements asking me to pay money for my beliefs.
@@dryfox11 That is because your "religious" belief of atheism is so utterly 'worthless'!!!
And one simple question, which you have absolutely NO WAY of answering... proves it!
If you 'want' to know what that simple question actually is... just ask me about it! 😉
Being absolutely confident about something and not to have search hard facts himself. Praise God
Noah's ark, the original pokeball
This post is underrated & funny as hell
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So Noah's Ark was a throwable spherical monster trap?
Though Bill designed a much better storage system than the ark. 😎
@@byronrhodes1659 you obviously didn't watch the video lol
Best part, for me: "Are you calling Jesus Christ a liar?"
They say that while pulling up a photo of jesus looking at you disappointed, with one tear rolling down his face.
Everybody knows imaginary friends can't lie.
Yeah Jesus was a liar he hung out with seven potheads and a hooker. Do you believe anybody that hangs out with potheads and hookers no you don't so why would you believe in Jesus. Call it no common sense
@@sharp306 Any social worker or youth councilor. Anyone working in social projects in rough neighborhoods.
@@Alkis05 and screwed up people have to believe in a deity that doesn't exist to make their day-to-day nonsense life make sense.
My understanding of the bible, and other books of faith is don't take them literally.
The basis of religion is fairly straight forward. Don't be sucked into trying to decipher it. Over think the whole thing.
Throw the books away....
Biblical scriptures, just a story tales for the adults. People, want to believe in miracles. So they accept what is written in the Bible. Children believe in Santa Claus. Adults believe in Jesus and Moses.
Noah's pull-out game too strong. Man took 480+ years to get his wife pregnant
@Ilay Saggot bro, is this a joke? Im not joking. I need to know
@@BrownSugar83788 dont try too
@@syahrulfauzi6344 this has been bothering me so much. i need to know if this comment is a joke or not
@@BrownSugar83788 you know i bath minimum 2 time's a day using soap. how can i become piece of smelly fart ? or maybe hes never taking bath his entire live
@Ilay Saggot people back then never reached 40 years old let alone 500 as you mention.
did the kangoro, penguin or ice bears etc get picked up from the ark as taxi service? Its funny that some animals dont have remains or skeletons other places in the world
Exactly!!!!!! I have said that so much since I was young. Why don’t they find skeletons of animals in all different locations. And how did the animals even cross the seas. Shouldn’t they have all been stuck in the Middle East ??
Such ignorance , listen to jent hovind etc .
@@patrickkkpakerr6442 so your argument is to google another guy? Well I did, and he basicly belive the whole bibel is literally....
@@jonasfogmadsen9311 He'll debate you on air , any time I really havent got patents to debate the stupidity that comes out your mouth .
@@patrickkkpakerr6442 Why are you so ill tempered of other people meanings and facts? dosent Proverb 15:18 say "Hot tempers cause arguments, but patience brings peace." you might wanna read into that:)
Very interesting video! I think it brings up many fantastic points about history and such. though i have some issues with it. For one: does the bible ever say noahs flood was 4300 years ago? where exactly are you finding this information? I'd assume its using the young earths theory, but to be honest we dont really know if its 6,000 or 4.5 billion years. I think you relied on the 4300 year bit a little too much, when all you could lean on for this assertion is the family line of Bible figures. Also, in theory, if God was able to help Noah get every single animal or every representitive of animal on earth to his boat, then who is to say he couldnt help all of the animals stay alive, disperse, and rapidly repopulate after the end of the flood? Sure those parts were not added in, but did they need to? The point was that God judges man and restores the earth, not that "we have to prove these non believers thousands of years in the future wrong". (no offense of course) But those are just some thoughts of mine, a very thought provoking argument you made there.
I agree. God could do anything he wanted in order to have the plan work well, he even flooded the entire earth what's to say he didn't do anything else.
I agree that Noah's Ark story is just a story. I'm not sure the author of the story intended people to believe it literally. With religious myth (and I have PhD in Religion, so I know something about the subject) often the intended truth is symbolic. Even then, of course, it's just a story and not necessarily one that ought to be deeply pondered. Geologists a few hundred years ago all expected that the science of the earth would show clear and conclusive proof of the flood. but instead, they kept finding evidence that the earth was millions and eventually billions of years old, that animals evolved over billions of years, that continents drifted, and that it is physically impossible for a flood to cover the earth without violating the laws of conservation of matter and energy.
So you are right to doubt the story, but I'd advise you not conclude the entire Bible is false. The Bible is a record of what a group of people believed about God and the universe over about 1500 years, written by different people with different amounts of wisdom and different agendas. It is only the phenomenon of Fundamentalism that people started insisting that the Bible was inerrant and true cover to cover with no contradictions. There is still a lot of wisdom in the Bible, particularly the teachings of Jesus.
I'd recommend a book called A Guide to Understanding the Bible, by Harry Emerson Fosdick for a good introduction to a different way of reading the Bible. It is no longer in print but a digital copy is available at www.religion-online.org/book/a-guide-to-understanding-the-bible/. Also, why should we assume the Word of God would not be found in all places where humans have lived and strived to understand God and the Universe?
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The person who told the story of noah's ark probably knew about a hundred species, maybe a hundred and fifty, certainly no more. No wonder he thought they all fit on one boat.
You should read the Bible for yourself before coming over hear to spew .... It never said animals in the waters etc. And it said, God Himself ordered the animals to the arc (not the erroneous and blinded explanation of the opposition that Noah had gone out to get them). Study well!!
@@ingodwetrustgachatuber2747 Also there could have certainly been animals in the immediate area that made it on the Ark...but I want to say that it was DNA that may have been procured and stored in the Ark, which was not a boat but a floating facility designed to survive the waters. Where is it that we get it's a boat from?
Could have been a DNA storage warehouse. Like lost ancient technology?
@@ingodwetrustgachatuber2747 How did freshwater life survive in mixed saltwater and so on? How was there enough food on the arc for everything for a year? Where did all the waste product go?
@@carlisroy6666 you need to go to the Ark encounter in Kentucky, it’s a scale model made from wood. You have to see it in person to Appreciate the size of it. I’ve herd the story all my life but until you see it with your own eyes you can’t even imagine how big it is.
I’m all for people believing what they want to believe but the people in these comments acting as if this guy is a hero are just as much the problem with the world.
@@PhilipK635 What a stupid conclusion to come to. Thats not at all what I said. I don’t even agree with the Bible. But people who praise disproving the Bible, and want to spread their disapproval of it, are just as much of a problem as the people who worship it, and want to spread it as if it’s healthy. Leave people’s beliefs alone. It doesn’t affect you.
@@PhilipK635 It’s almost as if you had that comment copied and ready to past on anyone here that didn’t like the video. Get an original thought and work on your reading comprehension.
At least in the original Sumerian version, Enki (Ea in Akkadian) is the swell fella who finds the loophole in Enlil's edict to save the humans: "Hear me, O reed screen!" still makes me chuckle.
"He probably had greater controls with his reproductive powers"
All my no nut November homies have been quiet since they heard this.
Deconstructing one’s long held beliefs, regardless of what they are, is usually very painful and uncertain. Pursuit of the “truth” is never ending. Often it leads you where you’d rather not go. But ultimately it is its own reward. Well done sir.
It FREES you, at least that's one of the true things the Bible says, among all of the tripe within it.
@@JN-el7qf nope lol
Whats the reward?
Dude your silly all human being live by the sea or a big river. Thats where all cities are
Debates about religion are unwinnable. Saying that one legend from the time of Gilgamesh is not literally true, does not destroy the Bible at all, except for die-hard Fundamentalists. We will not go to Heaven or Hell depending on whether we assert that the story of Noah is literally true. That is only an excuse to ignore all the rest of the Book. The authors millennia ago did not have the knowledge or research techniques that we have today. @Michael Flynn: Pilate's question: "What is truth?" becomes very relevant here. It was apparently a topic of discussion among philosophers of his time. The logic St Paul uses seems odd nowadays, but that is because it was written before the Renaissance, when Aristotle's methods became the norm. Those who believe that what they cannot personally experience or understand is therefore not true, use one of many definitions.
How much can 2 termites eat?
Damn, Noahs puul out game was fire, until his age hit him hard in the face
Guess he got slow in his old age. 🤣
Look outside the Bible, other sources state the ancients lived for hundreds of years...
@@christianmotley262 And what makes you think those sources are credible?
With all the glaring inconsistencies only one answers them all
"It's because God did some 🌈Miracles✨"
The bible is the inerrant word of GOD!!
@@markworkman9223 No, it isn't.
@@dimbulb23 Sadly you'll find out after this life
How do you verify that there will be a Heaven?
It's just a promise that you can't verify.
It's like paying for a new car that won't be delivered until after you're dead.
Didn't God intend Eden to be a Paradise for Adam and Eve? How did that go?
And you trust this same God to make one for you?
But never mind, thinking about Eternity with nothing to do makes you feel good in your blood pump. Be happy in your delusion.
@@dimbulb23 Oh well. You have no hope for the future I'll pray for you
Good job, man. Former JW here as well. Broke away in 2012. I highly recommend you look into ontology in philosophy, esoterica, and academic study of religion(theology). I have an esoteric playlist on my channel if youre interested.
Good thing you came away from JW for they do not acknowledge Jesus as God in bodily form. However Jesus is alive and risen after having given His life for you and me.
@@attilalevai7630Bible interpretations and theology doesn't matter because bible is a hoax. Mormons, JW, Calvinists, Catholics, YEC, OEC and more. All tricked to believe in a fairytale. Every religion denies laws of nature is false. We are apes, deal with it ok?
He could be a follower of Yuval Noah Harari. A believer in the WEF and first in line to receive The Mark.
When it comes time to put his faith in Klaus Schwab or Jesus Christ, maybe he'll reconsider at the last moment.
There is very little animal kingdom raw nature in the account of Noah's Ark. The entire event centered around God's intervention over what is natural. If you can't believe in the story of Noah's Ark how can you believe in the resurrection of the Dead?
The video actually points out that Jesus spoke of Noah, and the question was asked, "Are you calling Jesus a liar?"
People having watched this video need to decide - Do you believe God or not?
I could just imagine Noah discovering in horror that millions of termites are infesting
the wood of the ark. WTF?
The Termites lucked out!
HAH! That's great.
I think you mean the 2 termites.
@@michelbidart7286 Those would have laid eggs and multiplied a lot during the "great flood" story so.... Yeah that arc is fucked😂
@@jvmeel7454 Yeah, it's stupid. But now that you mentioned, I realize that the other animals could multiply as well. The 2 million animals could have been 3, 4, 5 million by the end.
finally told my mom i couldn’t come to church with her today
leaving is so impossible sometimes
I felt that. I grew up Roman Catholic and for years I battled with whether I actually believe in any of it, and it turns out I don't. I'm now a Hindu and although I'm still trying to shake off my previous beliefs, I'm way happier and feel like I'm truly practicing what I believe.
@@mikaylabingham487 you have only one little problem and nobody explains it better than this man th-cam.com/video/Xyz-g5yuF20/w-d-xo.html
@@mikaylabingham487 You cant shake it for a reason. The truth sets you free, nothing else.
congrats
Woah why all the hate twas an offhand feeling
Take care of each other no matter the belief
I first heard this story in religious school when I was 5 years old. I think they like to share this story with young children since it has petting-zoo attributes. Although I didn't have the vocabulary at the time, I was stunned by the first-degree murder on a planetary scale. This kind of vicious premeditated killing of the global population did not sit well with me. I cannot be a fan of anyone or anything that carries out such deeds, and I was unable to use the pens, glitter, and glue to draw the ark with the happy animals. For me, that was the end of any chance for believing or respecting a supernatural entity; in short, I was not a fan.
God created all life on earth via His immense 'intelligence'... and we can all 'see' the evidence of God's immense intelligence in the genetic code found within the DNA of every living thing on earth!
And if all life comes from God... then God has the 'right' to take back that which He, 'alone' freely gives!
You need to understand these things... BEFORE it's too late!!!
@@jimhappnin1425 "BEFORE it's too late!!!" It always ends in a threat. Your invisible no show fairytale is very abusive.
@@mikeekim242 *"It always ends in a threat."*
It's not a "threat". It's a 'warning'!
Jesus the Messiah came to pay the price for OUR sin.
But if you do NOT 'want' what Jesus the Messiah is offering you, then Jesus the Messiah will NOT "force" His salvation upon you!
Your 'freewill' will NEVER be violated. You are 'entitled' to pay the price for your own sin.
And as we all know, the wages of sin... is 'death'. 'Hell' is simply eternal death, while Heaven is eternal life.
It's totally up to you to pick which one YOU 'want'!
Your choice... your 'destiny'! You will have no one else to blame, but 'yourself'!
You have been 'warned'!
@@jimhappnin1425
Yet you don't have one shred of objective evidence any god/gods exist. The problem here is that maybe it's you who is worshipping the wrong god, and its you who is going to hell, or maybe they're all made up myths.
@@mikeekim242 *"Yet you don't have one shred of objective evidence any god/gods exist."*
I have something much better than that! I have absolute PROOF that all life on earth was created by an 'intelligent' God!!
And that "proof" is the genetic code found within the DNA of every living thing on earth!
Genetic code refers to the "INSTRUCTIONS" contained in a gene that tell a cell how to make a specific protein. Each gene’s code uses the four nucleotide bases of DNA: adenine (A), cytosine (C), guanine (G) and thymine (T) - in various ways to spell out three-letter “codons” that specify which amino acid is needed at each position within a protein.
And these life creating 'instructions' can ONLY have originated within an 'intelligent' mind!
So the bible tells us that all life on earth was created by Gods immense 'intelligence', and we can all see the 'evidence' of Gods intelligence in the genetic code found within the DNA of every living thing on earth!
And there is your "PROOF"!
Pretty sure insects were not considered "animals" in the same way the wildebeest were. As to the size of the flood, you said it yourself, their entire world was not our entire world. It was, however, their entire world. The people who chose to mock and disbelieve the guy who built the ark and kept telling them that a flood was coming, they must certainly didn't survive.
You should do Adam and Eve's story next, that's another bogus story.
Juan Reyes I was thinking the same thing. After years of study, my thoughts-- If the story is factual then we are all the products of incest. Which may explain our pathological psychosis.
Its true. That woman ate of and messed the world up
@@rduff1999 Abraham married his sister. Tribes marry within tribes. Wasn't quite the issue that Western Civilization has with incest that make our mouths gape open.
What is it about Adam and Eve that oppose?
@@chatryna think about it, two people created a bunch of different ethnicities and races.... two people populated the earth. The logic makes zero sense
You forget that the JW's said "something big" was going to happen in 1976.
I'm still trying to figure out what the Cincinnati Reds winning the World Series means to my faith?
They predicted the Kingdom of God coming to Earth in 1914. Oops.
@@rickmartin7596 Of course they would, CT Russel was a false teaching false prophet and Jehovahs Witnesses likewise is not Christian but counterfeit whose origins reflect 2 Cor 11:13-15 anyway.
@@ajgYT09 Why do Christians accuse other Christians of not being Christians? Why doesn't someone get all denominations together for a big conference to settle differences. Wouldn't that be better than name-calling?
@@rickmartin7596 Because anyone can say "I am a Christian" and many do .... but are they Born Again? Do they have another Gospel? These things are to be tested.
As for your ignorance and certain areas of history, and if you're not Born Again 2 Cor 14 explains why "its foolishness unto you, because they are spiritually discerned." You won't have this ability ... thus get confused.
@@rickmartin7596 STUDY THIS ...
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
King James Version
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
*What's the warning?*
*How many modern religions began by "Angels" appearing to and making a false prophet?* Do you know?
If Satan can clone and mimic "Christianity" just as 2 Lambs in Revelation ... 1 Jesus 1 Satan that look alike ... can you spot the difference between both?
You'd do well to ponder this as its an important lesson, especially after what Altiyan Childs exposed.
.... and NO ... Catholicism is Catholicism and Jehovah Witness are Jehovah Witnesses, but they are not Christian and do not believe in the cross. Another Jesus (2 Cor 15's warning) and total "other gospel" (Galatians 1:8-9) and its not the same at all.
The timeline of the flood cannot be known with certainty. When the bible recorded names of people the sole purpose was to establish the lineage of the future messiah, not necessarily to give a chronology of geological columns. The steep cut of the Grand Canyon with multiple layers of relatively soft rocks exposed for 5000ft in height is an indication that something drastic and powerful did happen quickly. I just visited the Aswan area of Egypt recently and we saw a very significant temple with water marks up to half of it height. I asked the tour guide whether they had moved the temple up to the higher ground as they had done to Abu Simbel, the answer was No. It is standing on original ground but in the past the Nile River water elevation could go up 65m at times.
As a JW its very difficult to accept the reality about Noah flood
Iron man exists. The comics reference him as being real, there is a movie about him. The twitchy weird kid with lazy eye accepts it as a fact. All people in the comics accept Iron Man as being real. The Iron Man comic book I bought from the comic shop is real. Stan Lee draws picturesof Iron Man, so Stan Lee MUST have seen Iron Man i real life. Therefore Iron Man is Real.
You’re comparing the Bible to a comic book??
@@alexamaya3208 no he isnt comparing the bible to comic books. Hes actually comparing christian logic for believing in the bible to believing in comic books. It's a bit confusing but i take it you arent too clever
@@SevenPr1me it’s not confusing at all actually. It’s just a fallacious argument. No one has claimed to have SEEN Ironman to the point of dying for it. That is the first step in the astronomical difference between these two comparisons. Not to mention, Jesus was an irrefutably historical figure, while Ironman is not and we can scientifically and irrefutably prove he was INVENTED by Stan Lee. The comparison is delusional. Your condescending language also expresses your biased, not to mention childish.
@@alexamaya3208 sure dude. Whatever you say. Unlike most intellectuals i know better than to argue with an idiot. Good day.
Hec ive even seen Iron man at Disneyland.
"Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Truth is not the same thing as empirical fact.
Mythology is a perfect example. Fiction is meant to entertain; mythology seeks to convey deeper truths that reflect the human condition. That’s what both antitheists and fundamentalists fail to understand.
Ol fred died in a insane asylum.during his closing days he would sometimes come out of his stupor and loudly quote a verse from scripture.
Quoting a man who died in a mental institution does not do your cause any good. If you believe what an insane person says, you'll believe anything.
@@inwalters how do you know if he made this statement before he became insane?
No problem, millions of Americans voted for a certain Donald Trump who at a point thought we could cure Covid-19 with a detergent.
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Very well presented and researched, as for the flood being local though, how do you explain that sea shells have been found on Mount Everest or so I have read ?
The top of Mt Everest was originally the bottom of the ocean where marine life existed.
@@55Quirll Exactly! During Noah's flood, the top of Mt Everest was at the bottom of the ocean!! 😉👍
@@jimhappnin1425 No, it was literally the bottom of the ocean for millions of years and was slowly pushed up due to plate techtonics
It may be that the tremendous weight of all the water pushed up land from the seabed into higher ground, seashells have also been found on other mountains on other continents, either argument cannot be validated in my opinion
@@markrichards1909 The Continental Drift theory has been shown to be valid as has the theory of Plate Techtonics, as to the vast underground reservoir of water in the bible has never been shown to have existed or the global flood
No one story destroys the credibility of the entire Bible, unless Jesus was not resurrected.
One question I've always had was what happened to the marine reptiles such as the ichthyosaurs, plesiosaurs, and the mosasaurs? I remember studying these animals in school and asking my parents why don't they exist today. I was told that God used the flood to get rid of dinosaurs. Although marine reptiles such as the ichthyosaurs are technically not dinosaurs since they've evolved from a different ancestor, on that same line of reasoning why would they supposedly disappear during the flood? Makes no sense. Surely a flood wouldn't cause massive aquatic reptiles to die considering that they thrive in water. So why dont they exist today? I never got an answer to that. Also on another note, are we really to believe that all the ethnicities that exist today came from 1 family and their incestuous ties? Even the whole premise of Noah preaching about a downpour when the very nature of heavy rain was a foreign concept to people living then seems brutally unfair. How could a loving God cause the destruction of not only grown men, but women and children for not believing in something they've never seen before?? It's like telling people that the sky will fall. And then taking their lives because they ignore you. INSANE.
Paleontologists agree there have been five mass extinction level events.
The flood story is almost an embellished version of the Ordovician mass extinction event. 😉
Even tho they are in water...a change of water level and storm can affect the survival of marine reptiles...it makes sense from the bible perspective
recommend watching Frank Turek if your argument is that you don't understand the nature of events and therefore label it as immoral to justify the disbelief.
The Dinosaurs had been dead thousands of year's before the flood .So your comment makes very little since....
@@grayrecluse7496 we didnt know the timeline. Are you there to watch it? You cant confim everything 100%. But what we know some of the facts about science has been written in the bible before human discovered the fact.
Ehe, listening to your conclusions and observations of recent JW literature, I chuckled at how much has changed in a short time with their explanations, their bs just gets funnier as time goes on. I left 22 years ago, when I was seeing the much touted hyprocrisy that those brothers and sisters warned about amongst themselves (gossiping, bitching etc). One of my main critical issues as a 13yr old within the congregation was post armageddon paradise and "perfections" ie not dying. This raised overpopulation concerns, then lead me to thinking about how "perfection" is actually the ability to change and evolve. Not changing = stagnation and life becoming meaningless because nothing would change. As I've fought to erase myself of negative JW conditioning, I've also learned how crappy JW's have been when it comes to the protection of their young and innocent followers. My biggest beef with them is their purposeful hiding of evidence of child abuse which survivors are still fighting to have brought to light in the purpose of seeking justice. My journey to leaving them was started by suffering at the hands of one such predator that they sheltered and those "caring, supportive" brothers and sisters didn't give a toss when the truth came out. That upbringing prevented my family from having supportive community relationships because like a cult, they don't want you connected to others so they can indoctrinate you further. Sadly this aspect of having healthy supportive relationships still evades me. Additionally, having worked as a mental health support worker also introduced me to the very awkward situation of escorting known pedos into certain communities like churches/Kingdom halls and I burnt out of that job super quick when I saw how such predators are protected and let in with little protection for the innocent. Yeah sorry, this comment escalated quickly >.
Sometimes you have to vent.. somebody read it like me. I’m assuming you were speaking on being a Jehovah Witness?
@@AGtheGEEK Yeah, JW survivor heh, I completely skipped out on the disassociation process tho. Was an unbaptised publisherby 13 and just stopped showing up.
@@psyvana God bless you.
Your whole argument falls apart when one realizes that God managed the inner workings of the ark. Noah did not understand God’s mastery of the situation any more than you do.
Genesis 7:1-5
The Great Flood
(Luke 17:26, 27)
Then the LORD said to Noah, "Come into the ark, you and all your household, because I have seen that you are righteous before Me in this generation. You shall take with you seven each of every clean animal, a male and his female; two each of animals that are unclean, a male and his female; also seven each of birds of the air, male and female, to keep the species alive on the face of all the earth. For after seven more days I will cause it to rain on the earth forty days and forty nights, and I will destroy from the face of the earth all living things that I have made." And Noah did according to all that the LORD commanded him.
The Lord, who created us all, was inside the ark.
It’s like a four year old saying, “How does the car work, Daddy?”
Will the descendants of the 4 year old , 500 years into the future, who have lived their whole life not knowing how to drive or ever seeing a car, believe in such things? Cars? Didn’t exist…Truth hurts.
Your logic is far from where it should be. All you’ve proven is you have doubts and possibly you’ve read a few books by authors stumbling in the dark also.
@@chadseaton1300 Well said.
There are no characters in Christianity's literature who exhibit all-knowing and infallible behaviors. When we read the story of Adam and Eve in the garden, we must either resort to a suspension of disbelief or recognize it's fictional dialog. Such as; how were two mere humans after eating a fruit supposed to have been infused with a miraculous substance which empowered them with their creator’s knowledge, able to coerce this all-knowing, all-powerful, infallible, invisible and eternal creator of everything God into believing they were just like him (or "us", if we are to recite the story correctly), and then into expelling them from paradise in fear they might eat another piece of fruit superimposed with another miraculous, eternal life imparting substance? An all-knowing and infallible creator of the universe would have, (should) have been intelligent enough to omit the planting of such consequential fruit trees during the construction of paradise ("Plan A").
We have zero documents or fragments within Christianity's literature of writings from Jesus' hand. Every word acclaimed to Jesus Christ is suspect.
First time I’ve come across your channel…that intro beat is fire
My mother would always say that it's possible the story was just a parable. And since Jesus taught in parables, he still could have used the story as an example in his teachings. I love how religious people will pick and choose what they think is and isn't literal in The Bible when you start showing actual evidence to disprove the myths as... well... myths.
Jesus tells a story of Lazarus and a rich man. He mentions the rich man though dead is consciously being tormented and needing a drop of water to cool his tongue. Now was Jesus a liar or was it a parable. Same thing for Noah’s flood.
If you're curious about the evidence for noah's flood, the genesis theory by white rabbit breaks it down great. would recommend the watch.
The thing is if God is all knowing, then he’d have known the Bible as we know it was written incredibly vague and open to interpretation. If there is a God, then he would have made sure the Bible was written in a way it couldn’t be so easily misinterpreted. He would also be foresee things like climate change or child abuse, which were basically foreign concepts back then, which is exactly why they weren’t included; the Bible was written by people, not a divine deity. I’m pretty sure if God exists, he would have told us take care of the earth, don’t abuse your kids, and don’t kill someone because they have different beliefs than you.
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Evidence against a worldwide, year long flood:
Plant life still exists.
@@tstproductions2913
"If you're curious about the evidence for noah's flood"
There's no evidence of a global flood and the story is a myth borrowed from older religions.
See this playlist. It shows why the Noah's flood isn't backed up by science.
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Think it quite insane that people would have helped build the boat with Noah and he would just tell them to deal with the incoming water themselves and get in the boat just him and his partner. What a knob!
People didn't help build the boat!!
What did the lions and tigers eat?
Answer: Smaller animals including humans.
Where did Noah get the polar bears and kangaroos?
Where would he get all that wood in that area? Isn't it a pretty dry climate?
Did he build such a huge boat by himself?
How long would that take?
Penguins, Llamas, Koalas and 100 of other spieces only found in certain islands..
Have you read the Epic of Gilgamesh?
The best public talk I’ve ever heard.
Please keep them coming.
Thank you Warren! 😆 Will do
Absolutely!
Not a JW, but a Christian.
1. A local flood dosnt make narrative sense for many reasons ill give one example.
A. If it were local, just have the animals move.
B. Many local floods happened in Bible days that would have nullified gods promise, Moses knew nile after all.
C. A local flood could not cover the mountains of Ararat or any mountain.
D. A local flood would not have solved gods problem of a sullied bloodline of mankind and fallen angels, Noah was "perfect" in his genealogy after all. Read: no hybrid demigods (nephlahim)
2. No proof of global flood?
A. Polystrate tree fossils across the US continent link the entire geologic column to one event. Not only do we see them, but thanks to st Helen's explosion we know how they are formed, floods.
B. Sediment does not lay down in stratagraphic layers, but diagonal to it. This observable reproducible phenomenon nullifies all current dating methods
C. The mass of sea diatoms that make the huge chalk formations with fossils buried show not only that it was formed quickly, but also they were shunted together over a massive distance
D. The Bible say the water of the flood came from BELOW GROUND, that the earth "cleaved" open. We can see this from the trench that encircles the earth under the oceans.
E. Any gradeschooler can look at at the Atlantic Ocean and see the continents fit together in some pangia like formation, but nobody points out that you can actually do the same with the pacific side following the cracks under the ocean. You either have to assume the earth grew, or that intercontinental crust deflated, but as the radiating magnetic lines from the trench are contemporaries on both sides of the world, pangia is geometrically impossible -the lines would be marred.
F. Coal layers on the geologic column join, this is consistent with an ebbing and flowing on continental sediment, but not possible with deep time laying of sedimentary layers. The geologic column was made in a short period of time.
3. Biology
A. God says animals are created after their own Kind, this is not the same as species. Any species that has a gradation of being able to breed would be a "kind"
B. Evolution is not true but adaptation CAN happen very fast. Look at the common pig/razorback, the stickleback fish, dog breeds. The difference between adaptation and Evolution is:
Adaptation comes from preexisting data inherent to the creature. Dna has a libarerary of Millions of dormant situational modifications. This is not Evolution, its inbuilt design from the start.
Evolution required deep time and mutation to create new structures.
C. Do not conflate natural selection with Evolution. Evolution NEEDS natural selection, but not the other way around. N.s. is scientifically observable and a subtractive process, not a generative one.
There so much more but the Bible is true. There was a time (1880's) Nineveh was though to be a fictional city, Israel was though to have a fictional dynasty, a prophetic chapter of iseah was though to have been added post jesus, dragons were thought to not be real. But then all of them eventually get unburied and the Bible is vindicated.
Sorry about your turtle, don't go back to JW, but do trust in Jesus.
@@JoyRaptor @Scott Vigil evolution is a gradual change over time. Things like adaptation and natural selections are part of evolution. Also saying DNA has all these possibilities already is true, but it isn't exactly true either. DNA is a blueprint, a strand of DNA only hold the info of that single strand and nothing more. It doesn't have everything preencoded, for it it did then every single member of the species would just be the same. DNA changes and the blueprint itself changes. Even when I was Christian I understood this. DNA doesn't hold anything it isn't using, and making the argument that it can be those other traits due to it having the same building blocks, the different protein blocks, is about the same as saying all atoms are preencoded with everything already due to them being made with the same tiny bits.
@@JoyRaptor I cant argue with a person who cant take evidence from one person, so here is some major events/stories that might make you rethink your “we are alone in the universe” opinion.
1: Here is an article from a major news station:
But has modern science, from the beginning of the 20th century, proved that there is no God, as some commentators now claim? Science is an amazing, wonderful undertaking: it teaches us about life, the world and the universe. But it has not revealed to us why the universe came into existence nor what preceded its birth in the Big Bang. Biological evolution has not brought us the slightest understanding of how the first living organisms emerged from inanimate matter on this planet and how the advanced eukaryotic cells-the highly structured building blocks of advanced life forms-ever emerged from simpler organisms. Neither does it explain one of the greatest mysteries of science: how did consciousness arise in living things? Where do symbolic thinking and self-awareness come from? What is it that allows humans to understand the mysteries of biology, physics, mathematics, engineering and medicine? And what enables us to create great works of art, music, architecture and literature? Science is nowhere near to explaining these deep mysteries.
But much more important than these conundrums is the persistent question of the fine-tuning of the parameters of the universe: Why is our universe so precisely tailor-made for the emergence of life? This question has never been answered satisfactorily, and I believe that it will never find a scientific solution. For the deeper we delve into the mysteries of physics and cosmology, the more the universe appears to be intricate and incredibly complex. To explain the quantum-mechanical behavior of even one tiny particle requires pages and pages of extremely advanced mathematics. Why are even the tiniest particles of matter so unbelievably complicated? It appears that there is a vast, hidden “wisdom,” or structure, or knotty blueprint for even the most simple-looking element of nature. And the situation becomes much more daunting as we expand our view to the entire cosmos.
We know that 13.7 billion years ago, a gargantuan burst of energy, whose nature and source are completely unknown to us and not in the least understood by science, initiated the creation of our universe. Then suddenly, as if by magic, the “God particle”-the Higgs boson discovered two years ago inside CERN’s powerful particle accelerator, the Large Hadron Collider-came into being and miraculously gave the universe its mass. Why did this happen? The mass constituted elementary particles-the quarks and the electron-whose weights and electrical charges had to fall within immeasurably tight bounds for what would happen next. For from within the primeval soup of elementary particles that constituted the young universe, again as if by a magic hand, all the quarks suddenly bunched in threes to form protons and neutrons, their electrical charges set precisely to the exact level needed to attract and capture the electrons, which then began to circle nuclei made of the protons and neutrons. All of the masses, charges and forces of interaction in the universe had to be in just the precisely needed amounts so that early light atoms could form. Larger ones would then be cooked in nuclear fires inside stars, giving us carbon, iron, nitrogen, oxygen and all the other elements that are so essential for life to emerge. And eventually, the highly complicated double-helix molecule, the life-propagating DNA, would be formed.
Why did everything we need in order to exist come into being? How was all of this possible without some latent outside power to orchestrate the precise dance of elementary particles required for the creation of all the essentials of life? The great British mathematician Roger Penrose has calculated-based on only one of the hundreds of parameters of the physical universe-that the probability of the emergence of a life-giving cosmos was 1 divided by 10, raised to the power 10, and again raised to the power of 123. This is a number as close to zero as anyone has ever imagined. (The probability is much, much smaller than that of winning the Mega Millions jackpot for more days than the universe has been in existence.)
The scientific atheists have scrambled to explain this troubling mystery by suggesting the existence of a multiverse-an infinite set of universes, each with its own parameters. In some universes, the conditions are wrong for life; however, by the sheer size of this putative multiverse, there must be a universe where everything is right. But if it takes an immense power of nature to create one universe, then how much more powerful would that force have to be in order to create infinitely many universes? So the purely hypothetical multiverse does not solve the problem of God. The incredible fine-tuning of the universe presents the most powerful argument for the existence of an immanent creative entity we may well call God. Lacking convincing scientific evidence to the contrary, such a power may be necessary to force all the parameters we need for our existence-cosmological, physical, chemical, biological and cognitive-to be what they are.
Science and religion are two sides of the same deep human impulse to understand the world, to know our place in it, and to marvel at the wonder of life and the infinite cosmos we are surrounded by. Let’s keep them that way, and not let one attempt to usurp the role of the other.
If you read all of that, congrats, now time for the miracle stories:
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He said in 2017: “I woke up in the morning took my car in and commuted from New Jersey.
“I got to the building and took the elevator all the way to the top - 47 storeys - and then climb onto the platform.
Alcides Moreno
Alcides Moreno fell from the 47th floor of the Solow Tower building
Alcides Moreno
Alcides Moreno is what doctors called a "miracle"
I think God saved me, but I want to ask him ‘why me? What happened? Why?’ Maybe it was a second chance to keep going
Alcides Moreno
“I just grabbed the scaffold and held on until another cable snapped.”
Mr Moreno then plunged 472ft, surviving only thanks to the platform he was working on getting lodged against a neighbouring building.
He added: “The paramedics, they found me right in the middle, the scaffold snapped in half and was lodged between the two buildings.
“It was right in the middle, they picked me up from there and took me to the hospital.
“I didn’t wake up from a coma until December 24, right there in the bed and my wife was there.
“I was [eventually] able to walk and everything, the doctor told me ‘you are a miracle’”.
Alcides Moreno
Mr Moreno's cable snapped whilewashing the windows
The platform
The platform plunged almost 500ft
During the incident, Mr Moreno broke 10 bones, his lungs collapsed and he needed 43 pints of blood and plasma.
Only half the people who fall from three storeys survive and from ten storeys almost no one does.
However, Mr Moreno is not convinced what happened was a miracle, as his brother - Edgar - who was on the platform with him, did not survive.
He continued: “I still don’t know [what I think happened].
“My brother is a big loss, we were really, really close.
“I think God saved me, but I want to ask him ‘why me? What happened? Why?’ Maybe it was a second chance to keep going.
“I am looking forward to finding out why.”
An investigation into the accident found that the scaffolding had not been properly maintained and that new motorised cables, which attached the window washing platform to the building, had not been properly anchored to the roof.
So explain to me how this is possible? I know you can’t, and this is solid enough evidence that there is a higher power in control, even if you dont like it!
Now, we have to talk about the bible, in exodus it explains how moses and the Israelites went to mount sinai, but they recently discovered that the mountain was in saudi arabia, they found charred mountain top (where God came down) and they found pieces of an alter (when they created the cow since moses hadn’t come down in ages) I know you will try to come up with some sort of argument, but you cant because I just proved you wrong AGAIN,
Then we have the whole moral aspect to talk about, if God isn’t real what makes killing someone wrong? because at the end of the day we all die, so why is killing 6 million people wrong? Unless you will get judged in the future for your actions, which proves the existence of God.
This is alot of things to take in, and I hope this helps you actually understand there is more to the world then we are here then die.
There were a lot of other civilizations and people who share the same flood stories. And back then peoples "world" was pretty small. If I lived in Louisiana all my live with no knowledge of the outside world and Katrina hit I would think its Armageddon.
Exactly. There are a lot of straw man arguments in these comments. Basically, if you construct an argument around your own beliefs and then set about trying to prove it rather than really trying to understand the object under scrutiny then you’re just another ideologue with an agenda.
So you’re saying you think there was a global flood? Just curious.
@@blakefrazier9991 No, a flood in a small area in Mesopotamia
Again, despite how illogical some things in the Bible appear, what keeps me believing is that God is omnipotent. "Through God all things are possible." So even if something seems impossible, God has the power to make it possible! 😉
Just for your own peace of mind... the genetic code proves all life on earth was created by an 'intelligent' God.
So much for atheism...
@@PhilipK635 QUESTION: Where does the bible inform you that "genocide" is God’s first solution?
Or is your remark just another example of your biblical 'ignorance'???
@@PhilipK635 The flood tells you that Gods FIRST choice was genocide???
QUESTION: What bible are YOU reading??
But we already KNOW you're 100% 'ignorant of the bible! that's why you come to all the 'foolish' conclusions!
That's jut how 'ignorance 'works! 🤤 👈😆
@@PhilipK635 *"With god, all things are possible, so it can go through an infinite list of ideas before mass murdering an entire planet."*
HA HA HA HA!!! Why don't you actually READ the bible!! Then you wont HAVE to 'think' about it!
Your complete and total 'ignorance' of the bible is the very reason you're an atheist!
And as I always say: 'Ignorance' and utter stupidity go hand in hand!!
And you PROVE this remark to be fact with your foolish remarks!! 😣 👈🤣🤣🤣🤣
A little knowledge is acutely dangerous. This here is a perfect example where the wisdom of man is foolishness to God. The true fallacy of this post is the very premise of dismissing the authenticity of the flood, is by using the same logic to propel his flawed knowledge. By speculations and assumptions, he arrives at rhetorical questions to create confusion. My dear lad, I look forward to the day when you will rely on your logic and command of the English Language to defend yourself before God on why you rejected his Truth.
2 Corinthians 4:4 "For the god of this world has blinded the mind of the unbeliever".
dude I was a JW for 24 years ...got more questions than answers...
JW spread a false gospel
A JW Bible is different from a regular one. They edit it to match their beliefs. If u follow the original word and go to non denominational church you will see the truth .
watch, sumerian tablets, viper tv. we are not meant to be here, religion is a lie..all of it..
@@tiktokcrazy6965 There is no truth. Every book claiming to be the teachings of god is full of errors and contradictions, just like a story book. These books were created to scare and control people, which is exactly what its doing thousands of years later. Scaring you into believing its nonsense.
@@tiktokcrazy6965 Non denomination lol . From where did you get your so called Bible did Jesus send it to you in a space craft . Protestants are just a bunch of low IQ idiots
How does this dude not think that Noah being 500 years old when he sired children is the starting point for scepticism rather than the fact that he was started a family after 480 years of marriage...
I can't understand why the authors made these crazy stories so impossible for a rational, thinking person to believe.
I guess they don't want thinkers disrupting their sermons.
@@JamesRichardWiley Hi. Thanks for writing. I am wondering, do you believe, along with the other mainline atheists, that everything came from nothing - in defiance of the laws of science and common sense? Frankly, people living to be 900 years old is logically consistent with God as Creator; yet, 'everything from nothing' is lunacy.
You can have eternal life in Christ. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh I'm still waiting for a creationist to explain to me how they know there was nothing before the big bang.
@@Artman1 Hi. thanks for writing. As far as 'evidence' of what preceded the big bang, first, there was no big bang. Well, God said, "Let there be light" and, 'bang!' there was light!
But as far as all matter, squished into an infinitismal dot, exploding at 15 billion light years per second, nah. It did not happen. For details on what really occurred, consult Genesis, chapter one. Unlike in our public schools, you won't be lied to. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
@@kenshiloh So you just make stuff up and pretend it's a fact?
Did anyone ever think that Noah took only the babies of all the animals,because there would be not enough room for all the adult animals,on the boat
That would be one of the arguments that theists present but two things negate that.
1. Baby animals require more attention as well as mothers milk.
2. The Bible says a male and its mate, babies do not have mates.
Also 3. Sauroposeidon had a height of 17-18 meters. That's three times higher than s giraffe. Even a baby Sauroposeidon won't fit.
The dimensions of the Ark are a geometric construct onto which other numbers from the story can be placed resulting in a map of a voyage ...from Heliopolis to the Isle of Patmos. A voyage that probably took place during the period of chaos at the end of the Egyptian Old Kingdom (2130 BC or thereabouts)