Unnecessary surgeries instead of abortion: 'It’s real life. It's no longer science fiction'
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- When Margaret Atwood wrote "The Handmaid’s Tale," she drew inspiration from real headlines and articles she came across. Atwood has said, “In case someone said, ‘How did you make this up?’ As I’ve said about a million times, I didn’t make it up.” In the one year and nine months since the fall of Roe, headlines illustrating the dire state of women’s bodily autonomy in this country have piled up. A new report out of Louisiana details the impact of that state’s abortion ban - it found that women are undergoing high-risk, unnecessary surgeries instead of simple abortion procedures. Some women are being forced to wait until their life is at risk to receive care. Even standard prenatal care is being delayed. Georgetown Professor of Constitutional Law and Global Health Policy Michele Goodwin joins Ali Velshi to discuss.
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#Abortion #Reproduction #Health
And yet there is no conversation about vasectomies and no laws concerning vasectomies
And viagra.
@@Maggie-zr2ow I see what you mean. I'm going to just ignore bunk95.
@@bunk95 Explain how they are fictional.
Some hospitals make men wait till 25 or have kids first. We live in a nation of puritans. Not exactly law, but Catholic hospitals will often deny access.
More that the law allows oppression without mandating it
@@humblelife3266 Catholic hospitals provide Excellent care.... right up to the point where the patient's needs conflict with the religion's dogma.
Can these victims sue the legislators for practicing medicine without a license? How can they override actual experts??
@@bunk95 huh? Have you watched any news about it the past few months? People have been permanently injured (eg, become infertile) because lawmakers told their doctors not to do the medical procedure necessary to prevent that.
@@colorbugoriginals4457 watched fiction? If human, do you want to be abused and/or tortured and/or killed so human slavery continues?
@@colorbugoriginals4457 doctors are fictional.
@@bunk95what are you talking about? you are fiction.
That's not how it works. If that were the case than ANY legislation determining what is allowed in medicine would be "practicing medicine without a license". These laws are awful, but they are not the actual act of practicing medicine.
I was forced to carry two dead fetuses for almost 2 weeks. It was so traumatic, I have PTSD. The people that make these laws are monsters.
I didn't want to thumbs up your comment, nothing said here is a 'thumbs up'. I am so sorry you had to go through that. It's horrific and degrading and unnecessary.
Speak up and speak loudly. If more women who have gone through such trauma speak openly, people will listen.
I am so sorry for your unnecessary suffering. I'm sure you know how close you came to death from sepsis.
I'm so sorry you went through that :( that's deeply horrifying in a nightmarish manner. I hope as time passes the memory and episodes lessen in intensity. Sending love ❤
@@anitadees4223, absolutely, I know. It was horrific. When they finally admitted me to the hospital, I was running a 104 fever AND having seizures. I had to go to three different doctors to get help. THREE. Nobody wanted to touch me. Every time one of these so called “pro life” people start to preach to me, I tell them my experience. Then I tell them to kindly take a long walk off a short pier.
THIS is the issue that made this man lose his mind! I'm a staunch supporter of abortion rights. I'm a refugee from Iran, and I've seen first hand what a theocratic state does to women. All it does is force potentially healthy women to hurt themselves out of desperation.
Thank you for adding your voice to the cause of reproductive rights and women’s rights. Your experience is very important for others to hear. Thank you ❤
My grandma was from Sari,Iran..
Funnily enough, nobody's proposing a ban on vasectomies since they want everyone having babies so badly. 🙃
Yup
And they want to revert back to the 40s and 50s when women stayed home and men would never come home until they ran out of money. @@A_Fenland_Demon
Considering how much childcare costs I think that is a part of the plan. When I have kids with my gf the plan is for me to be a stay at home dad of sorts along with my mom who will watch them when I am farming.@@CherylLynn65
No one is advocating for uterus removal either.
Because no one wants to completely remove a woman’s ability to have kids.
Some one who don’t want kids might change but why remove the ability?
But y’all don’t see that, huh?
@@sharpaycutie2 They are advocating for uterus removal by association. If you are forced to have a C-section to get rid of a nonviable fetus, (instead of the simple procedure that is now outlawed) it causes so much damage, it can be impossible for many to have children ever again. As for "might change why remove the ability?" Most women who have hysterectomies and tubal ligation, do it because it's medically needed. Many of us have severe medical conditions that will k*ll the mother or fetus during pregnancy, many have genetic risks that would be cruel to inflict on a child, some have uterine cancer, or other uterine issues that make life unbearable. Other reasons include, simply, not wanting to have a baby, not wanting to damage their bodies irreparably, but since a tiny amount might regret it, apparently all women lose rights to what happens to their bodies now? Many would regret joining the army, should we stop people from enlisting? "But y'all don't see that, huh?"
It is hideously cruel to deny a woman the right to get a fetus or embryo out when it is not viable.
what about the child? what if you were aborted? many people think a fetus is not a living creature, have you actually seen what a aborted fetus looks like?
It's cruel to deny her that right in ANY case. No Womb, No Vote.
If you become pregnant against your own consent yes I agree, however if you become pregnant on accident or regret it you shouldn't be able to abort.
Plus, you can technically have an abortion without it even having anything to do with babies, removal of cysts are also called abortions
Old men probably dont even know what a clitoris is, they shouldn’t be allowed to make descisions about women’s bodies.
Plus, you can technically have an abortion without it even having anything to do with babies, removal of cysts are also called abortions
Old men probably dont even know what a clitoris is, they shouldn’t be allowed to make descisions about women’s bodies.
A country, where this is allowed to happen, has no right to call itself civilized.🤮
Abortion is murder
@@shaweb9940 then don't have one.
keep your idiocy outside of other people's medical decisions. it's sooooooooo easy.
In my book, no country is civilized where:
1: death penalty exists
2: homeless people are treated as enemies rather than victims of society
3: there's an expiry date to prosecute r4pe in court
4: women are forced to carry out pregnancies, even despite medical risks
5: people are forced by law to undergo medical surgeries against their will or prohibited by law to get surgeries they want
6: there are no laws protecting people against racism, sexism, anti-LGBTQ* discrimination and any other form of discrimination based on who you are
7: there are no real efforts to protect children from abusers, including abusive parents and/or children are expected absolute obedience towards their parents (and towards authorities), as if they were their property
8: anyone is expected absolute obedience towards authorities, as if they were their property
9: a person can own another
Unfortunately, my own home country of Germany also fails this standard because of point 3, and in parts because of point 2 as well... 😪
Nothing about this country is civilized anyway.
Or Free.
It’s scary to be a woman of child bearing age in this country.
It's scary even if you aren't. I fear for my daughter's generation.
@@anniejuan1817 true.
not really. you won't face this problem personally with your OWN life@@anniejuan1817
I disagree. Women in the USA under 35 have the world at their feet. Even the ones that are moderately attractive AND have some brain cells.
@@ChineduOpara incel alert
Last week a young lady I know who was trying to start a family with her husband through IVF had a miscarriage at home. She called 911 because she was home alone. Along with the responders, multiple policeman also showed up at her home also. Along with the trauma of the loss, she had to deal with police showing up to investigate her actions. Finally she was transported to the hospital to be met by more police in her room wanting to question her. Fortunately she had a wonderful doctor who made them leave her room immediately. She had to have surgery after the miscarriage. When her mother told me about this, my heart broke. I went to visit the young lady when she left the hospital to let her know I also had lived through multiple miscarriages and to offer support. Thank God I did not have to live through the extra trauma of having the police investigating me.
This happened in the state of Texas. This unconscionable act has strengthened my will to do everything I can to help put Democrats in the White House, Federal, State and Local positions. Please help to get out the Democratic vote anyway that you can. There are so many stories like this and we need to make sure these stories do not continue to happen.💙💙
Absolutely sickening and frightening. I live in Texas. I’m 62 but my one daughter and two daughter in laws are all of childbearing age.
We missed our chance. Back in the 80s and 90s no one would believe me when I said that we were losing our rights to bodily autonomy and it was because we had become complacent, thinking that our rights would not be taken away. I said that when your rights are "given" they can be taken. We need constitutional amendments. We need to have term limits for SCOTUS and congress.
She was lucky. In a few years, that kind doctor will be out of Texas or in jail, and she will be LET TO BLEED TO DEATH , rather then to associate with her possible abortion.
It happened before in countries who criminalised abortion, but you americans are too ignorant ...
WE WILL. I am sorry for your friend but, at least she survived. Many others have died because they could not legally get help soon enough.
It's important the police investigated to ensure the person didn't try to induce a miscarriage in an attempt to evade the state's abortion restrictions.
And don't tell me you don't believe in abortion restrictions so my point is irrelevant. I doubt you support abortion on-demand until the time of birth. You probably want it legal for the first 20 or so weeks, and then after that, legal in exceptional circumstances.
Even Roe Vs Wade didn't protect abortion until the time of birth.
When do we get to sue these "legislators" for practicing medicine without a license and putting ONLY women's lives at risk? And when and how do women get to sue to recover medical expenses when they have to undergo a much more costly procedure in order to save their lives simply because some narrow-minded, short-sighted - power-hungry - legislator has determined their bodily autonomy for them?
Since when did the left figure out what a woman is?
For the last few years no one in the left can answer what's a woman.
I'm proud of you for figuring it out.
Whatever. Abortions is an evil.
Medicine is fiction.
My Dr said this just a few days ago as we were discussing how bad it is here in TX. She is actually looking into it.
That is an interesting idea and I would love to see it come to fruition.
Horrific times for women. 😢
You mean all of history since the beginning of civilization? Yeah.
@@chihirostargazer6573 Sadly yes. But now the little rights we have are being taken away again. Worry for my daughter. 😔
Womp womp
@@igakoga2481 You misunderstood my comment. I didn't say anything about women being in a better position now (some are, some are not)... I'm saying misogyny has been rampant throughout history and still is.
Like 1984, Republicans see The Handmaid's Tale as a blueprint rather than a warning.
Very good point
Grow up.
yep
@@robertortiz6749that is anything but a good point. It’s not even a point.
Welcome to Gilead.
It’s not about protecting life, it’s about controlling women
Which should have been the case from the start. This is how it should be.
@@Ultimate-Guardian.😂 And yet men can't even keep their peckers in their pockets. Why do they think they can control half the world's population if they can't control themselves?
Shove off, dearie.
@@Ultimate-Guardian.goku wouldnt say that
@@Ultimate-Guardian.So you are okay with trying to own and control women that is God's creation. Even your body is not yours but soil's neither your power, neither anything materialistic will follow you in death. The house you buy isnt yours neither the children you have. God given all of us will that is yours and yours only ,sacred beyond life itself and you want to restrict others' will because what, religious figures and other people say so? You guys are not religious you only like to worship power you get from called religious, you like to be superior than others with using religion as a tool. But you are not superior you are not that much different from corrupt politicians or greedy rich people.
You are right. If you start talking about the medical costs of caring for a newborn with serious health issues, all you hear is silence. One that fetal tissue become a baby by being born, the anti choicers want nothing to do with it.
Politicians: at 12 you're not old enough to vote, or drive a car, but you CAN have a baby!! That's what you're made for!!"
They also want those 12 year olds working full time… it’s all about the cheap labour, keeping the lower classes in their place
I walk my dog in a cemetery past the large gravestone of a girl who died in 1873 at age 13, together with "unnamed infant." Her husband lived several years past her death and quick math showed he was 47 when his young wife died. By the same math, the girl was probably 12 when she was impregnated. The only thing unusual about that was the large gravestone. Little girls could be sold into prostitution by their fathers or married off to old pervs without fear of legal consequences until quite recently. Now it seems the Republicans are trying to turn back the clock.
What makes my stomach churn is when those same politicians respond to questions about pregnancy in minors they say "alleged" rap. As if anything at 12 is consensual.
Since they don't want age of consent laws or a legal consent standard anyway. As usual conservatives are the actual "groomers" just like every other accusation they project.
@@averycheesypotato I like how in America we have two options, Apesh*t beliefs and Apesh*t beliefs but in blue.
The strange things with these abortion bans is that they give corpses more bodily anatomy rights then they give women. A few cell clumps has rights no born human has. The right for a person to live did not and should not depend on another persons body without their consent.
You make three very good, very logical points. It's so very simple: women are fully human.
A parasite.
It's so simple. Don't let a man get you pregnant. No problem.
Yes! TY 💔
Omg, yess, you're totally right!!!!!!!
One point. It is NOT about "control", it is about DOMINATION.
The laws were always intended to hurt women, not save lives.
Especially women of color...
America. Voted. For. This.
How are you forgetting that the baby you are aborting can be a woman too.🙄
Is it wise to empower the government to force any free citizen to put their health in medical risk for an extended period of time without that citizens consent?
@@GOOGLE-ADMlN
@@GOOGLE-ADMlN
You seem to forget that they’re not fetuses or babies they’re dead. They’re rotting tissue that needs to be removed.
But to you, they’re collateral damage. Those women die but I guess they’re martyrs to your cause.
Imagine Trump enacting a national abortion ban and restricting contraception. If you don't want that to happen, talk to your friends and family members and encourage them to vote blue and stop MAGA Republicans.
Indiana just banned IÙD funding for women on Medicaid.
A lot of states would not enforce a national abortion ban
@@kellymoses8566more than half would
Gee, how did you know Trump was going to do that? Are you psychic or something?🤨😏😮
@@Susieq26754 If he wins and Republicans gain control of congress, it will happen, and the supreme court will back them up.
"Detest" is one of the few words I can find to express my thoughts or feelings towards the Republican Party. To think my daughter, niece, sister, etc.. would have to go through any of these things is just beyond belief in 2024 in the USA. WTH????
Despise? Abbhor?
@@vacafuega
Loath.
We had more rights than our daughters, nieces, granddaughters, etc. do today. It’s beyond wrong and enraging.
I’m in Canada. I teach piano. I had a 14yr old female student come to lessons wearing a Trump 2020 mask (this was when it was required to mask). I just had to shake my head inwardly and pray that she never actually knows what it would be like to live with that…because I think she would change her tune, and I am not talking from Mozart to Beethoven…sad, truly sad.
@@MusikGirl23 Wow, that is sad. It just shows how far the sickness of the trump cult has reached. Hopefully by the time she can vote, trump will be gone &/or she doesn't move to the US. Praying for her (& all of them) might be one of our strongest solutions.
The AMA and any other governing medical associations need to bring a lawsuit against these states.
I have been celibate by choice since Roe was overturned by the Dobbs decision. I feel that it's the only way I can show solidarity with women about something I can not possibly understand. 😢
Wow
Its easy to understand if you look at medicine, biology and personal space.
@@truth4004 are you trying to be witty? Fail.
💕💕
If Trump gets in again I think women are going to have to try something like that on a massive scale. Like the Republicans have said "we need more babies". Any woman who can put off the decision for a year might have to give them "the year of no pregnancies".
in the United States a dead corpse has more say over their body and organs than living breathing women
Can the corpse sue?
The USA will now have to measure not only infant mortality but maternal mortality as a significant statistic.
"will now have to"? It's always been measured.
Not because of pregnancy. More mothers die from abusive spouses than the pregnancy complications.
That was already long done and their rates were already abysmal compared to other western countries.
@@Spikey45633 and the republican party wants those wife beaters to retain their right to arm themselves.
@@Spikey45633that's absolutely not true.
In fact maternal health stats in countries with *FAR BETTER CARE* indicate life endangering complications are COMMON, while m-rder-by-spouse everywhere BUT the gun worshipping USA is much lower.
Your violence issue in the US is obviously GUN based.
Many pregnancy complications are deliberately excluded from US statistical counts of medical issues.
There's NOTORIOUS reports of inaccuracies.
For example PIH (pregnancy induced hypertension), PE and HELLP were classified as "pre-existing conditions" by a SINGLE evaluator when they only exist in pregnancy.
The data "professional" was MEDICALLY ILLITERATE and decided "hypertension" should be excluded because THEY WERE ILLITERATE about OBGYN issues.
One single illiterate skewed that huge data gathering.
Unqualified illiterates making medical decisions is an enormous American problem.
Stats and policies are often skewed for PERSONAL, political or religious agendas.
Like Pharmacists who REFUSE to dispense BCP, and then "brag" about their town's resulting high pregnancy complication rate, maternal death rate, high domestic abuse rate, child poverty rate and widespread child abuse and neglect.
Way to go, champ.
Worship zygotes and ignore women and children.
It's the same with supposed "stats" about abortion needs - often gathered in highly dishonest, inaccurate, coercive, threatening, judgemental, deeply anti-science ways.
Because bigots gonna bigot.
Before believing stats, rip their methodology apart.
Stats are often not used in honest ways.
If our life is threatened by presence of a fetus but not threatened enough for the government, can we claim self-defense when we get an abortion? Since you can defend yourself from “reasonable fear of harm?” I have the right to protect myself from harm or possible death, don’t I?
According to them, you cease to be human the moment an embryo appears or anything remotely suspiciously too similar.
So no. No, because the USA - the noisy oh so righteous saviours of rights worldwide (not) - is abysmal at respecting the most basic human rights for the majority if their (non native) history.
A fetus is not a criminal
I'm surprised that 'Handmaids tale' hasn't been banned yet.
They are using it as a guidebook. They want what is in their to sound normal.
It was banned in Texas in 2021, and in Florida in 2023.
They are likely working on it
I'm collecting all banned books.
The Handmaids tale is looking more to be a documentary.
😡 What is happening to our beautiful country? I just honestly do not understand anything anymore! I'm 49, turning 50 around election day. I remember growing up in the 80s and 90s. I wish others would look back and see just how far we have come since those years. Why would we ever want to go in reverse? Why are some of these politicians wanting to subject their own daughters and granddaughters to this type of life? I say this because the majority of our lawmakers are from 60s, 70s and 80s time frames. How can they not see what they are doing to the females of our country?! I'm so worried. I have 4 daughters, 4 grandgirls and many nieces and grand nieces. I'm so worried for our future generation of females! This has got to be changed immediately! It's inhumane!
I know whats wrong. Americans stopped minding their own business.
No because the politicians have money and will fly to another country easily to get medical care.
America has never been beautiful for anyone other than white males .
@@truth4004
yeah live and let live went the way of the dodo. Now it is I do not believe in it therefore you can not do it.
Oh, make no mistake. If a politician’s daughter or wife has pregnancy problems, they’ll just go “on a vacation” and take care of things. They can afford it with their salaries paid by our taxes.
While awaiting my divorce to be finalized, I couldn't buy a car without the ex's name being on it and the insurance. In applying for employment around the same time, I was told by one company, "We don't typically hire women."
Women had come a long way, until now!
wow.
In 1988 in Louisiana, I had to have my husbands WRITTEN permission to have a hysterectomy for adenomyosis, and in it, it stated that HE accepted that I would no longer be able to bear his children.
@@truth4004 We also couldn't have a checking account or credit card in our own name in the mid-1970's. It had to be in our husband's or father's name.
Part of it was the Me too movement. But it's take resources resources out of women's hands and have to rely on the so called "'good man" not that aren't. To be owned again not only from husband's but Father's, Brother's any male in your family just look at Jane Austin and how women were treated just the past.
On the "lesser" freedoms and rights and opportunities that women were denied until very recently: I remember a law professor, around 2000 when I took her family law class, telling us what it was like IN THE 80's! for her and her kids struggling to get away from abusive (mostly emotional abuse) husband.
(It was a real realization for me, as a male, of just how persecuted women were until very recently, and still are, even though I was not some totally uniformed person; in fact, I knew about historical social/legal persecution of women from my readings on...well, history in general as well as how religion suppressed women).
She was a high school French teacher and mother. Her husband was so-so throughout the marriage, a typical type of 60's marriage along the lines of "well, he's ok, you're not really in love, but you're a woman and need a man for income/emotional support, and you can't live alone, especially childless, even if you could support yourself, as that's looked down on, so you better marry him", but he began cheating on her in his 40's and taking out her hostility towards him about this on the children.
So she had enough and, thanks to her teaching job, had enough money to get her and children away from him. No fault divorce (something the GOP is trying to end now!) was NEW in her state, so she had that freedom too (as she couldn't really prove he was beating her/the children as he never got really rough with them: it was more a constant threat of violence and emotional abuse, and women faced enormous burdens of proof trying to get divorced even in "fault" divorces as the legal bureaucracy very heavily took the husband's side...as it still does).
But...she had trouble getting access to HER MONEY, and proving she made it, since it was in their joint accounts; she had to fight to get the title of her car since it was in her husband's name even though she paid for it and could prove it, she had to have her brother co sign on a new bank account, car insurance, and an apartment lease (even though she made more than him), and she was denied rental from apartment after apartment (dozens she told us) because "an unmarried/single woman with children is not something we want in our community" as some renters actually told her or others just implied: "so...your husband will be living with you and the children? oh, you're divorced...." (apartment showing ends abruptly), "why isn't your husband looking at the apartment with you...oh you're divorced...(again, apartment tour ends abruptly), etc. Finally, she said an old jewish guy rented to her because "he knew what it was like to face the soft social persecution that is deeply restrictive, even if not illegal, so you are a person who has rights on paper that the bigots can point to but you still face much diminished opportunities and freedoms in practice.
So, if not for finding that renter, and especially her brother co signing on important documents, and no fault divorce being available, AND also tenure at her high school teaching job since the administration "totally turned against her and wanted to get rid of her" when they realized she was divorced/single with kids (she was no longer a "role model for students"), she said she never would have been able to get away from her husband and her and her kids would have continued to live in no love abusive marriage and household.
SOOO many small, but very important, legal/practical opportunities, freedoms and rights had to fall into place for this woman and her kids to escape this situation. She's one of the lucky ones as she stated: for every one of her back then (and even now) there are thousands of others who simply had to suffer quietly in lives they could barely tolerate. And the GOP wants to take all these "minor" rights/freedoms away to get women back to the 1950's, if not 1850's.
PS: In the 90's, in her 50's, with her children grown, she put herself through law school. She was a very impressive person who, if not for her tenacious nature (and social/legal rights for women that were finally attained), surely would have lived (as would her children) a much more diminished life. It is obscene that so many things had to fall into place in her situation for her to be liberated and live a better life. There is a myraid of practical realities that must be realized in order for women to gain total personal/societal freedom. It's hardly just "LOOK! They have these rights on paper! How are they oppressed!" as the sexist morons scream. (And those fundamental paper rights/freedoms are, again, being taken away; the lesser ones will follow or fall outright as a consequence).
Margaret Atwood; a true jewel in Canada's crown.
Yes. Margaret Atwood's novels expand the mind. I like her poetry even better.
My mother had her first Cesearean as an emergency with a classic vertical incision. Later we used to laugh (bleieve me she still laughs to this day) that her stomach had turned into a question mark as one side tightened up and the other side pooched out because the muscles had not "lined up" during healing. A visible sign we grew up with that pregnancy, childbirth, surgery is serious, complicated business.
To think that doctors are performing unnecessary surgery made necessary because politicians want to play doctor
And they pretend like we are out of line for refusing to break our bodies if we don’t want to. Even if it’s something as simple as stretch marks- my body belongs to me, if I don’t want stretch marks and a baby, I’ll be getting that abortion.
Actually a vertical scar is much easier and safer and also a much quicker healing time, because the incision cuts between muscles, not across them as with a "bikini" C-section. We have come to accept that the "bikini" cut is the best, but really the long cut (with it's more substantial scar) is really in women's health best interest all the way around. While I am at the very late stage of perimenopause I would have requested a vertical cut if I had a pregnancy that had to end in cesarean when I was younger. It's sad that the medical community has lied to women for decades about this instead of giving them a choice between the safer cut with much less healing time (days instead of months, literally) and a vanity "bikini" C-section that has huge health risks, means the first 8-10 weeks of your baby's life you will be struggling to heal yourself. It's a no brainer.
okay...you missed the point but that is not relevant
However, providing incorrect and dangerous medical falsehoods is problematic. The vertical incision is much easier...for the surgeon...and much quicker ...for the surgeon-which is why it is used in emergency situation (in my mother's case it was a placental abruption) However, it is much more dangerous for the mother. It tranverses the muscles (cuts them in half) It has a higher risk of infection. LONGER period of healing, does significant muscle damage (hence the question mark abdomen), creates more scar tissue, precludes VBAC...subsequent births must be by section which compounds the risk of all of the above and increases damage because with the vertical incisioin, the scar tissue must be excised...unlike the bikini cut which cuts along the length of the muscle essentially keeping the east-west integrity intact, it's smaller, heals faster, has fewer infections and VBAC is possible . Bikini cuts are prefereable for both mother and child health.
Furthermore, "healing" from major abdominal surgery takes time no matter whether the cut is bikini or classical. That 8-10 weeks is BS. Add a couple of months to that because not only are you recovering from major abdominal surgery, you are also recovering from 40 weeks of pregnancy and childbirth.
AND if the mother already has a child (a toddler) at home. She is cautioned with EITHER incision to not pick up the child for a period of time. However at about 6-8 weeks, she is often told that if the toddler climbs up on a chair, mom can pick him or her up (not from the floor) However, with a classical incision, mom can't even do that
It's sad that you, in your perimenapausal state, decided to provide speculative disinformation
yes, they call the bikini cut a vanity incision but it is also the MEDICALLY preferable one when it comes to the mother's safety and recovery
When my son and his girlfriend wanted me to watch the tv series I said no. It was too frighteningly real. I could see it coming.
This is barbaric treatment of women🤬
It is crazy and cruel beyond words🤬🤬🤬!!!!
At the founding of the US, abortion was freely accepted and practiced. Benjamin Franklin, one of the Founding Fathers of the US, wrote a book that included a section on at home abortions. He used information from a Virginia doctor that wrote up a pamphlet on abortion procedures. Franklin’s book, The Instructor, was in almost every US home. When someone says "a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the nation's histories and traditions"…they are lying.
EDIT: Since some cannot understand that this comment is simply pointing out facts, and not an argument for why this practice should be allowed today, I’ll be very clear, this comment is just about stating some facts. And apparently these are very uncomfortable facts for some people who act as though poor reading comprehension is an excuse, and deflection perfectly normal behavior.
It's been happening for over several decades.
Its hatred of women.
And how do you feel about the destruction of Title9
Religion needs to stay out of politics and medicine.
Before they hid it, but now they are being blunt about their religion effecting our laws
Amen!!!
100%
And what happens if you find out there is a God and you disobeyed his laws?
Yes, but you don't need religion to make a secular case against killing a fetus before birth. There's a religion to parallel just about every secular idea, but that doesn't mean the secular principle is just religious dogma. Catholic religious beliefs support the right to form labour unions, but that doesn't make pro-union politics inherently religious and inappropriate for public society.
My dad wants my family to move back to Missouri. We live in a blue state, and we have a preteen daughter.
Over my dead body. Handmaid’s Tale, indeed.
She needs your protection. Your dad can travel.
Resist. Protect your daughter.
Well, that's good that you're staying. Too many are already moving from blue states to red states and driving up the prices on real estate.
Tell your dad to overthrow his state govt, by voting if there is no other option, if he wants you to move back there.
@@kristinab1078As usual. Conservatives only care about themselves and their personal situation and how much it costs them to live. Meanwhile, you are murdering people with the laws you voted for.
Politicians should not be making medical decisions for women.
Especially so when they are men. Like Alito
What is a woman
Agreed. Medical decisions should be left to the patients, their families if applicable, and the healthcare providers. No one should be dying or suffering due to these cruel laws.
@zoyadulzura7490
Nobody should be dying, except the baby. Right?
@liberalshaveitallbackwards4667 It's not a baby. It's a fetus. Not a living breathing infant.
Is this 2024 or 1924? Is this the United States of America, or any third world nation? If you are a woman then doesn’t matter because they are the same thanks to Mitch McConnell, DJT, and the far right zealots on the Supreme Court…if you are a woman, or love women, help fight for us, we fought too long and hard to be treated like this, a non citizen….Are we not more than our uterus’? Vote Blue, all the way down the ballot, our lives depend upon it… please… for your daughters and their daughters… My mother had no choice, she deserved one..Wanted children know the difference…
At the founding of the US, abortion was freely accepted and practiced. Benjamin Franklin, one of the Founding Fathers of the US, published a book for American colonists that included a section on at home abortions and other medical information. He included this information from a 1734 Virginia medical handbook that was also widely distributed. Franklin’s book, The American Instructor, was in almost every US home. When someone says "a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the nation's histories and traditions"…they are lying.
EDIT: Since some cannot understand that this comment is simply pointing out facts, and not an argument for why this practice should be allowed today, I’ll be very clear, this comment is just about stating some facts. And apparently these are very uncomfortable facts for some people who act as though poor reading comprehension is an excuse, and deflection a perfectly normal behavior.
You need to know third world nations allow abortion if the womans life is in danger. no court needed. doctors arent witch hunted.
In the 1750s or so Benjamin Franklin published a book which included an explanation of what natural products could be used to induce an abortion.
Seems that the United States has gone backwards since a time before it was even a country.
Republikkklans will make sure that women are just property and have no say in anything.
@@Maggie-zr2owslavery and lynching were also widely accepted and practiced at that time. Should we bring those practices back too?
Or perhaps, over the course of two centuries, we’ve grown as a collective conscience and realized the ills of our past and want to steer our ship in a new direction?
Idk. Just a thought…
Edit: This is, of course, assuming that your comment was true, which it’s not. But even in the hypothetical sense that your comment was accurate, your logic is still flawed.
Don't forget that in a c-section, not only are there multiple tissue and muscle layers cut through, each requiring separate stitching, but all of the organs in the way need to be moved (intestines) and then placed back after the fetus is removed. Its major surgery with major recovery time.
Also, it's much, much more costly, to have a c-section than an abortion.
Imagine being forced to have one of these operations inflicted on you when a pill would have sufficed. Imagine being reminded of that fact every time you look down and see the scars they decided you need to have. The avoidable complications they decided you need to suffer.
Cancer cells are similar to embryonic cells. Should we delay/ban cancer treatment because your cancer cells are alive?
Similar does not equal the same cancer cells are not and will never be human
@@igorziskycancer cells are exclusively human cells, that's how cancer works.
Your cells begin growing out of your body's control and begin taking resources from its surroundings to fuel that growth.
@@RhinoRapscallion but cancer is not a human a fetus is.
@@igorzisky you and I both know that what gets called a human is heavily contested and I don't really care about that debate. I *do* care about bodily autonomy though.
I don't want to argue about when or why a fetus's rights should supersede the mother's, so I'm not going to respond again.
But human cancer is human, that's one of the many reasons why it's so hard to get rid of.
Cancer cells are your own cells the fetus is not. I would even go so far as to say that you agreed to possibly becoming pregnant when you consent. Unlike cancer a fetus only has one cause and it’s completely preventable. (excluding forced pregnancy which is a different matter entirely)
They're not just denying pregnant women a d&c - they're denying them to non-pregnant women who need them for excessive bleeding.
Thats what happened to me last year, and I almost died. 10 months later, and I still dont have my health back 100%.
Yep. My quadriplegic daughter was denied the contraceptive implant which she needed for the same reason. Her periods threaten her life. There is no logic to this.
It is not just outright denying. Especielly in rural areas treatments that are still legal are harder to come by because reproductive doctors are moving to places where they can still offer their full repertoire.
@@Nickname-ef9tv and they're going to places where they're not being forced to make a choice between going to prison or letting someone die.
That’s crazy!!! I don’t understand how a D&C for excessive bleeding would be blocked. That’s why these laws are so scary because they end up restricting other medical procedures too. I’m so sorry for the pain you’re experiencing.
And this is why you shouldn’t ban books and educate children at home.
Homeschooling, when done properly, is not a problem.
Back in 1998, when I had my second (and last) c-section birth, I had to get my husband’s approval to get a tubal ligation while I was open. The kicker: it was MY health insurance, and I had two difficult pregnancies.
This is really difficult to understand that this is happening in our day and age. Simply horrible! We must do what we can to get women's rights for their bodies restored!
On the "lesser" freedoms and rights and opportunities that women were denied until very recently that Goodwin importantly touches on: I remember a law professor, around 2000 when I took her family law class, telling us what it was like IN THE 80's! for her and her kids struggling to get away from abusive (mostly emotional abuse) husband.
(It was a real realization for me, as a male, of just how persecuted women were until very recently, and still are, even though I was not some totally uniformed person; in fact, I knew about historical social/legal persecution of women from my readings on...well, history in general as well as how religion suppressed women).
She was a high school French teacher and mother. Her husband was so-so throughout the marriage, a typical type of 60's marriage along the lines of "well, he's ok, you're not really in love, but you're a woman and need a man for income/emotional support, and you can't live alone, especially childless, even if you could support yourself, as that's looked down on, so you better marry him", but he began cheating on her in his 40's and taking out her hostility towards him about this on the children.
So she had enough and, thanks to her teaching job, had enough money to get her and children away from him. No fault divorce (something the GOP is trying to end now!) was NEW in her state, so she had that freedom too (as she couldn't really prove he was beating her/the children as he never got really rough with them: it was more a constant threat of violence and emotional abuse, and women faced enormous burdens of proof trying to get divorced even in "fault" divorces as the legal bureaucracy very heavily took the husband's side...as it still does).
But...she had trouble getting access to HER MONEY, and proving she made it, since it was in their joint accounts; she had to fight to get the title of her car since it was in her husband's name even though she paid for it and could prove it; she had to have her brother co sign on a new bank account, car insurance, and an apartment lease (even though she made more than him); and she was denied rental from apartment after apartment (dozens she told us) because "an unmarried/single woman with children is not something we want in our community" as some renters actually told her or others just implied: "so...your husband will be living with you and the children? oh, you're divorced...." (apartment showing ends abruptly), "why isn't your husband looking at the apartment with you...oh you're divorced...(again, apartment tour ends abruptly), etc. Finally, she said an old jewish guy rented to her because "he knew what it was like to face the soft social persecution" that is deeply restrictive, even if not illegal, so you are a person who has rights on paper that the bigots can point to but you still face much diminished opportunities and freedoms in practice.
So, if not for finding that renter, and especially her brother co signing on important documents, and no fault divorce being available, AND also tenure at her high school teaching job since the administration "totally turned against her and wanted to get rid of her" when they realized she was divorced/single with kids (she was no longer a "role model for students"), she said she never would have been able to get away from her husband and her and her kids would have continued to live in an no love abusive marriage and household.
SOOO many small, but very important, legal/practical opportunities, freedoms and rights had to fall into place for this woman and her kids to escape this situation. She's one of the lucky ones as she stated: for every one of her back then (and even now) there are thousands of others who simply had to suffer quietly in lives they could barely tolerate. And the GOP wants to take all these "minor" rights/freedoms away to get women back to the 1950's, if not 1850's.
PS: In the 90's, in her 50's, with her children grown, she put herself through law school. She was a very impressive person who, if not for her tenacious nature (and social/legal rights for women that were finally attained), surely would have lived (as would her children) a much more diminished life. It is obscene that so many things had to fall into place in her situation for her to be liberated and live a better life. There is a myriad of practical realities that must be realized in order for women to gain total personal/societal freedom. It's hardly just "LOOK! They have these rights on paper! How are they oppressed?!" as the sexist morons scream. (And those fundamental paper rights/freedoms are, again, being taken away; the lesser ones will follow or fall outright as a consequence).
The problem is that it's never been about the babies. It's always been about control. They don't care if she dies along with her baby as long as she does as she's told and is put in her place.
After living in crazy dangerous USA for 6 years, I’m moving back to Europe. In Europe I (female) have the same rights as men do, affordable healthcare (even abortions if I want), low crime rates, hardly no shootings and no mass shootings, healthy foods, stable sane politicians, educated people, not a dividend country, hardly any homeless, ect.
How many of us can fit in your luggage?
So questions...
Why do people want to come here?
And how would you go about showing that taxes can directly benefit a countries citizens?
I have a friend that complained about taxes in our state moved to a state with a lower tax rate and could not wait to get back to the roads that she left...upon crossing the state line she said finally good roads...well how are those good roads paid for?
The more Republican our state got the worse our roads got...hmm tax cuts, so beneficial.
I like hearing from other developed countries opinions once they have lived both places and have an understanding of both.
Please take me with you. I'm disabled, and the laws in the US give me about as many rights as a rat in a garbage can. And due to those laws, I'm not allowed to have more than $1999 of money or resources at any time, so there's no way I can afford a place to live on my own, let alone afford to move to a better country. I wish someone could sponsor me to move to a decent country where I can have a life before I die. I'm almost 50 and have not yet been allowed to have a life. We get only one chance to live, and mine is almost over.
@@mikjb only people from even worse countries come to the states. The only high educated people who do have to come have enough money to leave if they must. You're overestimating the popularity of the States
Female? Don't deshumanize yourself like conservatives and incels do.
I worked in a B Dalton's at the time The Handmaid's Tale was published. The New York Times book review claimed it was horribly unrealistic, indicating the notion that a group of terrorists would attack the American government in a multi pronged series of specific targets being taken and politicians murdered. Other reviews focused on the Christo centric fundamentalism at the heart of Gilead, as well as the extremely misogynistic and prejudicial take on women's roles. They thought it would never happen in America.
I believe that most fictional dystopia is written to warn people. Warning them of a danger that the author can see as a potential dark path in front of their society, or of a society that affects many others. And back then, I saw the televangelists demanding money from those Christians in their audience who desperately needed miracles to deal with their struggles. The televangelists sobbed and wailed and demanded, and the Conservative politicians said, "They get money and can control people! We need that!" And we are now at the brink of Gilead, only one achieved without murdering anyone famous or in power, but the attacks on every possible marginalized group in America and beyond. Atwood warned the world. And some saw a blueprint.
Thank you, Ali Velshi. Everyone should hear this interview.
This just underscores the insanity, the ignorance, the absolute disregard for the life and rights of woman inherent in right wing conservatism. For right wing conservatives, "rights" is an idea worse the the actuality of abortion.
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I will never forget when my mother told me and my sisters abortion was now legal and she explained what that meant. In my lifetime, abortion has been illegal, legal, and now illegal again. I find this time very scary, and as a woman, I'm glad pregnancy is no longer an option for me.
Same here. The bad old days ended when I was quite young, but here they are again.
I guess now it's our turn to fight.
it's all so outrageous that I can barely even interact with this topic online. I'm too old for more babies, but I am so scared for all the young girls I see when I pick up my own 12 year old child from school. I am so scared for the freedom they don't have, but which is going to seem NORMAL to them. It is going to seem NORMAL.
Well, if women don’t fight against it……
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@@karlaschmid8757No. They should keep their legs closed in the first place.
No, you should leave women alone. Without sperm there is no pregnancy. Take your vow of celibacy like a real man Johnny@@johnnycage3881
@@johnnycage3881Romantic relationships are not possible without it.
Something you’re obviously not familiar with.
Guns in the country have more rights than women and thats exactly how the GQP wants it.
Vote 💙
Protest at Mar a lago and at the homes of the conservative Supreme Court justices.
Any Republican.
Already been tried. They manage to find laws to make it impossible to inconvenience the "great leaders", while the rest of us have our lives dictated by them.
I've had two c-sections. One emergency, one planned. That second one was a relief to the care team, as I had made it very clear early in that pregnancy that I knew it would be safer to have a scheduled cesarean due to my medical history. They were concerned what would happen if I insisted on a VBAC, or "vaginal birth after cesarean," instead.
My husband and I wanted to have at least one more child. Even knowing it would mean a third major abdominal surgery for me.
Once Roe was overturned, we knew it wasn't going to happen. It would be too great a risk, and I refuse to let a life yet to be realized to take me away from two little lives already established. I booked an appointment for an IUD consult within weeks of our decision. We wanted to have that layer of protection for me before some congressmen managed to outlaw that option, too.
Don't blame the congressman. You always had the right to stop the pregnancy. Take control of your body. Don't let a man dump sperm in you. No risk of complications.
@@Spikey45633 wowie imagine not being able to read and comprehend the words someone has written.
Welcome to: MACA
“Make America Cruel Again!”
Abortion continues to be safer than going through pregnancy and childbirth. Politicians need to stay out of the medical decisions of their constituents.
@@aaronhelvig9444 No you haven't. 🙄
One of the dumbest comments in history, well done
@aaronhelvig9444 No, you haven't. That would be statistically impossible. Regardless, it's irrelevant to another woman's choice.
@@justmatt7931 Thanks for your projection.
@@wtfisthishandlebulIshit how is killing a baby safe? Enlighten me
this is barbaric. i am infuriated that we are forced to live and die following the rules of OTHER PEOPLE'S religions. If that religion is your choice that is your choice BUT EACH PERSON SHOULD BE ALLOWED THEIR CHOICE.
Exactly
Don't just vote, get involved. Volunteer, donate, share information, run for office, talk to friends and family about politics, make a friend, help register people to vote, work as a poll worker... 🇺🇸💙
Women are a political and electoral power. We will never forget what Texas, Alabama and trump did. Vote blue 💙.
Blue tsunami
Straight ticket 🩵 💙 🩵 💙 🩵 💙 and encourage like minded friends 🧡 family and neighbors to get OUT and VOTE 🩵 💙 🎉🎉 Pro-Democracy and Pro-Choice 🗽 🥰
That's why the GOP don't want women to be able to vote.
@@sandyd3686you honestly believe democrats are pro-democracy after they’ve desperately tried to remove Trump from the ballot on absolutely baseless claims (not charges, claims - there’s a difference)
Don't forget Ohio. And Idaho.
Criminal is the only word for this violation of human rights. Yes, HUMAN rights as women are humans! That's the case I would make.
SUGGESTION TO MSNBC...your coverage of this issue is excellent, as are your guests, but you are preaching to the choir. Most of your audience already understands what is happening and its implications. It would be a real service to offer explicit references and recommendations to your audience on how to get involved in fighting these abuses. Many I suspect are eager to do get involved but are not sure where to start. My state has next to nothing in the activism effort and I have had little luck in finding national organizations that I could volunteer for. Other than writing checks its hard to know where to begin. You and/or your guests could help with that.
How anti-healthcare states actually treat life:
‘Disturbed and Embarrassed’: Woman Dies in Custody of Tennessee Cops After Begging for Medical Help (VIDEO)
Why should I read The Handmaid's Tale? I just have to turn on the news!!
Welcome to the United States of Iran. That is where this heading...
Saudi America.
Tragicomic
The Taliban: we don't care about women's rights. American conservatives: hold our beer 🍻
The Talibangelicals are the same as the Taliban, just different book.
That is literally the definition of hate speech you’re comparing people who do not want to murder babies the taliban?!? Really ?????
Pathetic
U sound dum
Minivan Taliban
FOR REAL.
The US acts like the middle east is absolutely barbaric but at least a large chunk of the middle east has Brittain standard free healthcare and wouldn't refuse to help the mother who may die due to a pregnancy gone wrong. Regular abortions may not available but they do care enough to help with ectopic pregnancies and non-viable pregnancies.
Meanwhile these US high-restriction zones are willing to let women to die from preventable complications due to denial of healthcare.
This is Christofascism and my faith has only grown from their encroachment. I reject this patriarchal monotheistic fascist movement.
We found the sociologist in the room. Only a sociologist would use this many big words to say absolutely nonsense.
@@John-jz7zzSorry your school didn't provide you with an adequate learning environment so you don't understand what she wrote. A dictionary would help you.
@@John-jz7zz Why don't you join the extremist muslims and hate math too while you're at it, it's clear you don't believe in any form of science.
@@John-jz7zz So, only an intelligent and knowledgeable person would use words you don't understand. No wonder the more intelligent grifters among you have to pretend to be stupid. They don't want to freak you out.
@@John-jz7zz Drumpf for tumors 2024! 🤞
Women need to Vote Blue. Also any man with a daughter, a wife, or a mother.
Lol
Exactly.
@@katrinarucker9773 😂
Or just a man with a conscience
@@annnee6818 With all due respect: Evangelicals is how America got here.
Too bad you can't sue for practicing medicine without a license against the legislatures.
I don't understand why the AMA and licensing boards can't.
Make no mistake, they'll be going after tubal ligations & hysterectomies next.
We must have different copies of the Republican Agenda (c) - mine says IUDs are next. And maybe some other forms of birth control, all used by females.
Soon Republicans will require that tampons be regulated and tracked and that each one must be submitted to the local GOP headquarters after use. Any woman who lets an egg roll out without being fertilized will be sentenced to death without a trial. I'm glad I'm an old lady, but our little girls are in for a bad future if we don't get the Trumps out of the Supreme Court.
NEXT? Some states are already trying to outlaw ALL forms of female contraception.
When half of America is more concerned with a "war on Christmas" than the ongoing war on medicine, education and civil rights and liberties, you know we have a big problem.
These Christian fascists are why we have the second amendment. To push back against draconian rule.
I had an ectopic pregnancy in 1999. What a difference 25 years makes. I cannot imagine having to deal with all if this as well as having a deadly pregnancy. This is some true horror.
U can't take away rights and then say, " Let's compromise!",Too late!
Yep. Roe v Wade WAS the compromise.
VOTE!
Y’all BETTER VOTE
If I could I would but I'm 14-15 sadly
I am encouraging my kids to think about either permanent birth control when they grow up or moving to a blue state or overseas. This is not a family- friendly place.
This is what happens when a naive, unquestioning electorate gives power to christofascists.
Take it back in November. 💙💙💙💙💙
America in 2024 is like Medieval Europe
Great report Ali! Thank you 👍
It will be best for the government to realize they're not in control of anything. Majority of us women have decided to not have children. The birth rate is low and will remain that way. Make it safe and affordable to have children and maybe the women of this world will decide to give you children again.
Meanwhile, on March 4, 2024, the French Parliament voted to inscribe a woman's right to reproductive healthcare into the Constitution. The votes for the amendment were 780 with those against were 72. The bill was signed into law on March 8 2024 International Women's Day. Thus France is the first and only Nation in the world to guarantee the Healthcare rights of women. Yet not a single reporter in America has demonstrated the chutzpah to report this. It says volumes about American journalism.
Time to move to Paris I guess
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A 13 yr old!! These are the same people that scream that children be children, Let them enjoy their childhoods. So why does the 13-year-old have to give birth And essentially end her childhood at that point?
America’s the best 3rd world country cos playing as a 1st world country in the world.
As a Canadian,I’m so very proud of Ms. Atwood. Who knew how prophetic her words would be. Also,when will men be forced to the penalty as women have and not on a monetary way?
It can happen in Canada too. The conservatives several times attempted to reduce the abortion time period.
Event hough Pierre claims he's pro-choice, historically the CONservatives have been anti-abortion.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 Absolutely! When you Tucker Carlson,Conrad Black and Jordan Peterson speaking on/for a platform of the Canadian Conservative Party then there is an issue.
This is an important conversation that needs to be heard so truth overcomes propaganda. Thank you!
MYOB. I'm always taken aback when I see some old pot bellied dude at a hearing stumbling over his own notes speaking on the subject.
Christian sharia.
No in islam they allow abortions as a medical procedure if the doctor says its needed to save the womans life.. no protests... no nothing.
It's really about time for Congress to act.
The problem is they have been acting...to take away women's rights and protections.
It's majority Republican. What kind of "act" do you think they're going to take?
Congress must be solid blue for anything like that to happen.
I cannot blame my wife for opting out of pregnancy and childbirth altogether. It was definitely the safer path to take, especially since we live in a red state and can't just up and move -- our aging parents are here and we have to care for them in their old age like they cared for us in our youth. It's important to remember that it's not possible to just up and move one's life -- it's expensive, time-consuming, and can be physically taxing on the young, the elderly, and the infirm.
When you are repeatedly being told by those in power that your preferences don’t matter and when those in power believe that saying the ugly parts out loud is electorally cost less ,they’re saying democracy doesn’t matter . But it turns out they don’t get to decide that. You do. --- VOTE💙
Please notice that we, the public, NEVER see the names of the women or girls who are dying because of these draconian and murderous laws. We read that the mortality rate for women dying because of these laws is going up, but we never read the names of the victims. The reason it’s important to know their names is because, a few years ago, a woman died in Ireland because she couldn’t have her dead fetus removed because of similar laws. Millions of people put her photo, along with her name (Savita Halappanaver) on posters and marched through the streets all over Ireland, and, guess what? Ireland made abortion legal! If Ireland, a predominantly Catholic country, can make abortion legal because the citizens demanded it and embarrassed the country by carrying signs with Savita’s name and face on them, then surely we can do the same here. I think the media is delinquent and complicit by not publishing the names, ages and photos of women (of course, only those whose family agrees to it, especially for underage girls) who have died this way, thereby denying our ability, not only to know, but to demonstrate against these laws. Step up, MSNBC, and start the investigation into that information and publish it! Then WE, the People, can take it from there. And, please, if you are a family member of a girl or woman this has happened to, post the information somewhere where it will get coverage, or make signs yourself to spread to people who will march in her name. One name and photo would be great, but imagine what a difference we could make with the names and photos of dozens of girls and women.
Thank you for sharing this!
Ladies , you know what you gotta do.
You gotta reign over your domain.
Until you are recognized as the queens you are and the keepers of all life and your own bodies. ❤✊🏽✨
As a man I feel the only thing I can say is all men should be left out of the conversation.
My daughter and I are lucky to be alive because of medical technology today. I experienced late-term complications at 7 months had to have an emergency c-section and was sick and in pain for nearly 2 months after. Without the science of medicine... we would have died. I would NEVER EVER want to FORCE a woman to have to do this. EVER. Because of this pregnancy, I will NEVER have another child and I will not go through that again.. and I honestly do NOT care about the laws.. because MARK MY WORDS.. I as a woman will find a way and not a single person will ever know. Abortions have been occurring spontaneously naturally and by will for thousands of years. If you as a society do not want to care for your women.. other women will help women.
It’s really terrifying. I just had surgery for a ruptured ectopic pregnancy and thankfully am still able to quickly receive that care in my state but it was still terrifying. So I can’t imagine going through this in a restricted state and having to wait until I’m dying. Why should I wait and succumb to serious medical risks just to save me from a non viable pregnancy!?
Oh, but haven't you heard? You're a woman. And a woman has never been seen as anything but an object by the Republican party. They will never stop trying to control us. It's terrifying.
This csection nonsense happened to my very close friend in Alabama. She may now no longer be ever to have children. She just turned 28 years old.
Yep I am never ever going to visit the US is’s a hellhole.
abortion is and should always be up to the individual carrying the child. No one else-ever! SCOTUS should have no involvement what so ever in this decision. The fact that this case made it there is unconstitutional.
Abortion saves lives!
Anyone calling himself "pro-life" should be in favor of saving lives through abortion!
The problem is very few are actually used to save lives.
I genuinely don’t understand how this isn’t gender discrimination.
Abortion is murder